Another Below Deck Podcast - The Golden Door is Too Expensive | RHOC S19 E1

Episode Date: July 12, 2025

Dylan, Pat and Ruby are back to break down AFRID, Terry and Heather doing reverse cowgirl, Archie's meetings and more from Bravo's RHOC.Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetworkhttps://www.youtube.com/@anotherbelowdeckpodcast_VIIA.com use promo code BADTV

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because the people there are evidently losing their minds but it's a small sample size so I'm Dylan that's Pat hey permission to come aboard Ruby is joining from across the ocean hello Hello everyone. How are you? Great. What's our rating system? I don't remember. It's not oranges. I think it should probably just be oranges.

It's probably boobs. I think it was boobs. Yeah. I think you did CCs of silicone or something like that. Yeah. Okay. CCs. Oranges is probably the best though.

It's a little too on the nose. I love oranges. I gave this episode zero oranges. Actually one of the worst episodes of just pure television I've ever seen. Is that right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I found myself asking the gods,

whether they be a pantheon or just one, when will this be over? Wow. You know, before we start our coverage of Orange County, can I hit Ruby up for her thoughts on Sheena Shay's revelations this past week? Uh, do we want to wait for the Valley? She's technically not on the Valley. She's kind of a drift alone on her own Island with that horrible husband of hers.

No, let's save it for the valley. Okay, fine. Let's save it for the valley. I just, I can't wrap my mind around. You're champing at the bet, I know. I just don't understand. We have the scandal taking place in literally a year and a half earlier,

the person that she wasn't married to yet, but had, you know, they were having a baby. Was doing what Tom did, but 50 times worse. But 150,000 times worse. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about it on the Valley. OK. OK.

But my god. I mean, the boxing match is on. I told everyone, Brock's a piece of shit. When I was, I wasn't joking when I said, he really wanted to move to a different country to have a baby called Spring Pluto. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I was serious. No, I know you were serious. Hey Pat, if there's one thing I know about you it's when you open your mouth you mean business. Thank you sir. When you said you know raising a baby without a head is a

10 out of 10 on the difficulty scale you meant business. You meant that. I did. All right so I gave it zero episodes. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. I of course am so looking forward to talking about the episode with you guys, but it was a really, really bad, boring, stupid, dumb episode, right? Setting the foundation.

Robs, go ahead. Okay. Mob Wife sunglasses on the young woman today. Yeah. Wow. It's that they were the only ones in my drawer. I thought that this opened up a. Strong but worrisome foundation for the season. Here's what my thoughts are.

Gina going to Bali and listening to the wind. We're in for it. I can't wait to see how insane she's become. I don't like talking about 10 year olds having eating disorders or any type of disability at all or disorder. I think that's gross. And they don't have any agency here. Keep it off the show. Um, Shane is very small. Uh, Shannon Bador is so small. So are those children.

No, he's such a little guy. He is so small. So are those children. No, he's very small. He's such a little guy. They look just like him. He is so small. They do. And listen, short king, short king, but wow, he just looks so small. Oh my God. Wait, hold on.

Okay, and I'm sorry. And you guys can't say this because you're men, but I think that Tamara looks very off, like her actual face. And I actually think that Tamara looks very off, like her actual face. And I actually think that Tamara's work is like usually pretty fucking good. She crossed the line this time. It's noticeable.

What'd she do, Pat? I couldn't tell, but my wife and I were like, what the fuck is up with her face? Are you guys saying that she had a stroke? No, we're saying that she's had continuous work done, and this time it didn't go well. Well, I mean, when you start on this journey, I know little Cece's a botox here and there

is perfectly normal, but when you start chopping and screwing like a freaking remix the way these people do, isn't the only place you finish the fucking wall? Is you look like a cat. Yeah. That's where it ends. Right? Yeah.

Yeah, she's entering the Ameo territory. I will where it ends. Right? Yeah. Yeah. She's entering the meow meow territory. I will give it 36 oranges. All things in moderation, including breaking the bones in your face and reconstructing them. Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. So the foundation we're talking about, cause that was the first episode. So you start getting hints at where they're gonna go. The storylines. I agree 100% with Ruby. Keep any underage children's storylines out of the show. Here's the thing, and I know that these are your oranges. I understand why they do it because this is a mom thing. Emily's going through something that a lot of moms

can relate to which is just this precious love you have for your child With that being said I don't give a fucking shit if the kid doesn't like pickles. Okay, one of the most annoying Social media accounts is this guy with Orphid and he just tries different food. He's like hi. I'm Jonah I'm gonna try a watermelon today any gags for 30 seconds Okay, don't give a fuck you don't like watermelon Everybody else does okay. Sorry fucking moving on Luke is a nice kid, but I don't give a shit. Okay Let's move on to the next storyline that isn't a storyline Heather to bro and Terry if they think they're gonna walk through this season with do another renovation or

They think they're going to walk through this season with a do another renovation or bragging about the various real estate entities. I'm not here for it. But can I tell you, and I'd like to field this question to the group, did anything make you happier than hearing a contractor take them to the fucking cleaners? I mean, the only thing that made me happier was to see 33 minutes later, Heather DeBros say about Katie usually went or no, actually not usually. She said, when I have a feeling about someone, I am never wrong. And I believe somewhere in my notes, I said, except for the time that you bought a house

and then spent $8 million over budget and then it was filled with rot. That you didn't know that time. That one was bad. I agree. Also really quickly, just really quickly, we need people, similarly in the summer house, we need the two girls to come out who did not suck Jesse's toe but sucked his dick,

just come out and talk to people. We need the people who are doing weird things with Terry. It's time, you know? You mean like- Grabbing his nipples or something. What do you get? And I don't even know what I mean. And that's why I left it vague, but it's just, it's time to hear from them. Yeah. Like I went to a rage room with him and then he held my hand for an hour and a half and I tried to kiss him and he got really upset. That kind of thing.

Dylan, exactly. Yes. Yeah. I like how they joke about having sex. Those two have not had sex in 10 years. Reverse cowgirl. Give me a fucking break. Um, also, you know, I've said this on the show is like, this is reverse cowgirl. Yeah. Right. Terry. Um, Terry is a sociopath. I have personal relationships with people that have worked with him. He's an absolute horrible person. He's a liar. And not to be a pig or two, put too fine a point on it. Reverse cowgirl is for asses. Okay? Yeah. Sorry, but I mean, one, it's a

ridiculous thing to begin with. We've talked about it numerous times, but Heather and Terry don't strike me as, anyways. No. Got it. This is what a liar Terry is when his brother who was the singer of quiet riot died of a drug overdose he claimed he had a heart attack and he's stuck with that story the man had enough cocaine in his body to take out three elephants and the night before at his final performance in Oklahoma he said well hello welcome to Oklahoma. Yeah. And then he fucking died. Yeah. Dead. Terry. Nah my brother he struggled but that was a heart attack. Yeah. Yeah. Because of all the cocaine in his body Terry. Nothing makes Pat more cheesed off than a story that

doesn't add up with the autopsy. Gosh, does that drive him crazy. By the way, Anne Burrell, I love the Food Network. Her family owes it to her. If you're gonna call the 911, clean up the 100 pills surrounding her body on the floor before they get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, it's gonna cause suspicion.

Yeah. All right, well, we gotta get into this episode. Oh, sorry, okay, all right, already Um, Katie is an absolute sketchy person I loved when the Wi-Fi didn't work suddenly because she could easily just Show her phone and say this is when the nanny reached out to me. Yeah Yeah, but something tells me that she was lying about that. Well, she's on her fifth seven series. So she's doing something. Oh, yeah Yeah. Yeah. Okay, uh four ccs That's not a lot Wasn't great episode

All right, let's get into it. Okay. Am I gonna patty's doing hosting? All right. I'll start us off here All right, so we bounce around orange county like we normally do. This is how I watch this episode. Okay imagine, uh a siren but in human form just On your body while you're watching it. Yeah. So I have a pretty good handle on it, but definitely wasn't able to take notes. Understood. Okay. So Shannon and Archie's new place. Archie's happy, I guess. Oh, Archie. We'll be hearing from Archie quite a bit.

Oh yeah. All right. Tamara's house, Emily and Big Gulp drinking Fat Shamer go roller skating. Gina being a real estate agent, she moved back in with me. Travis moved back in with me. And then we get to Century City, not Beverly Hills. And I do want to say this. I want Heather DeBrow to go on Beverly Hills

because she is able to walk all over these people in Orange County. You go up there and try and do what you do with someone like Bose or dare I say, or Erica Jane, baby. Or Erica Jane, baby. They're not gonna take that. Let me tell you what you do.

Andy, you tell Heather when she buys a new house, $23 million over budget that isn't full of mold. And you say, listen, we need you on Beverly Hills. And she agrees with the current cast. Okay. And she thinks that she can take on Bose and Erica and babies and that's okay. And then what we do behind her back is we go to Lisa Vanderpump and we say, what do you want? There once was a place called Sards Pavilion. we shopped and ate and we had our fill again. He added more shops and our bags did fill again. Good old Swords Pavilions begin again. At Swords Pavilions we've always had great food, fab shopping, the latest films and two hours free parking. Now we've opened Sports Direct, Rituals, Leisure Box, the sauna village

and Dylan Oakes. Sing it with me! Jane is finally seven. Today her bike felt like it went a hundred miles an hour and her hair was as beautiful as a mermaid's. For her birthday, Granny gave her some money to put into her savings book. Jane plans to save up for important things for when she's older. Like a unicorn. From the moment you start saving, it feels good. For over 100 years, Ireland state savings

has helped people of all ages to save with as little as they like for as long as they want. Pick up more information at your local post office or search Ireland state savings. Ireland state savings. It's a good feeling. Terms and conditions apply. Oh wow. And then whatever she says, you say great. And then as Heather is on the rise, It's a good feeling. Terms and conditions apply.

And then whatever she says, you say, great. And then as Heather is on the rise and so excited and she's doing press, because once she starts doing press, she's too humiliated to come out of it. Then you say, also, by the way, announcement, two big returns, Lisa is back. You thought Andy was caddy. Let her head up. Bro, you should be working for Bravo. Seriously. I love that. Thank you. I love that idea and it clearly you guys both agree. It's like to have Heather DeBrow and Meatball Gina on the same show with each other. I mean two completely different lives. It's like David versus Goliath and this isn't the Bible. Nothing

magical happens here. No. Okay. Nothing. Alright. So Shannon picks up Katie and then I should say nothing miraculous I don't want to offend the religious people out there. It's a very important text fair enough. Yeah so apparently Katie just got back from Matt doing some golf channel stuff I don't watch his golf channel. Anyway, Shannon a lot of people watch the golf channel. Oh, they do Yeah, and it's pretty nuts because the golf Channel doesn't, I mean, the Golf Channel has, you know, instructional segments on sports shows that are talking about golf.

Oh, really? So that's pretty, that's pretty wild. I applied to the Golf Channel to the state of Delaware that like, I think it may be, and I know that it's, wow, this is really beautiful here. And then you find out, oh my God, it's what wow this is really beautiful here and then you find out oh my god it's so much money is here and it's just the golf channel and you're like wow I kind of slept on this I think that's the golf channel Pat I do. Are you familiar with her husband as a commentator on that channel? No god no. Okay all right so then we Shannon lets us know men are not her priority in 2025. The lawsuit was settled for 60K.

And then Johnny Janssen's in her rear view mirror. I don't think. What happened? Well, I don't think Archie, I think he doesn't believe her. She's lying. Oh yeah. Archie knows.

It's because Archie sits in the car with her when she drives by that restaurant on Tuesdays and Thursdays and she cries. Archie is the true victim in all this if you really think about it. I wish there was an Alan on for pets. Yeah. There isn't though, because they can't talk.

Right. Well, Katie lets us know her. Can you imagine how unproductive that meeting would be? Wow. Archie, what's it like having a alcoholic as a pet owner? And then like, yeah. Getting some feelings out there. Yeah, yeah. Maybe.

And that was actually a French bulldog named Rose who was getting very defensive, very triggered by Archie's sharing. Well, Katie lets us know her and Shannon have grown closer since Shannon blindly defended her at that reunion. Katie, if you remember last season, Emily and Heather DeBrow took part in it too. They basically exposed Katie as the sketchy fucker that she is. And Shannon was defending her for some reason,

and it was ridiculous. And then I love how Heather like drove a sword right through her soul. And then like during the break, she apologized for bringing up her children. I never want to hurt you. Yeah. But no, you did Heather. Um, so anyway, uh, we learned that, uh, is it Kai? Oh, Kylie might not have lied when she said that the DeBros are self-absorbed demons. Yeah. Apparently there's a nanny out there that cooperated that it was the kids of Emily talking shit about the Dubros to her.

Is that the story? Did I get it correct? This? Yeah. So Katie alleges that this nanny reached out to Katie and said after Kylie went on this podcast and was like this was my experience with these children as well. Okay. Um. Bringing children into it again. Yeah to Katie and you know all all the moms out there. What are you doing letting your kid go on a like now say that she can't go on the podcast. I mean how old is Kylie? She's not. Probably 20 now. Oh, she's her own person then, I guess.

You could advise against it, but. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's, I think once you're 18, this is Gia Giudice. If you wanna play the game, you're gonna play the game. And people like Emily can go after you if you wanna go on a podcast and talk shit about her. When your son is 10 and has ARFID,

I don't think we can't do that. That's not appropriate. I also want to point out that Katie was like, Shannon and I are very close now because the reunion was a big turning point because she was the only person and in the flashback, everyone's yelling and Shannon just goes, hey, there's been a lot of investigation here. Yeah, that was the defense mounted. ARFID, I think needs rebranding, it sounds like a Dr. Seuss bird eating something. But go ahead. Oh, okay. Well, so. Oh, yeah. So Kylie went on that podcast and

spoke about it again. And everyone's pretty upset. And then we bounced to Gina's house. And this is where we learn about that trip to Bali that changed her life. Apparently, the wind told her that while Travis is deeply uninteresting, he's a nice guy. Yeah. And so she should let him move back in. And so she did. Yeah. Well, well, the wind also said, Hey, remember the last time that you were like, Oh, I want to go for like the really interesting cool guy. And then he got drunk and

blacked out and beat the shit out of you and broke into your house. Just just go for the nice one. The wind said do this one the wind the wind is often just a dose of humble pie for whoever needs it. You know stop dreaming so big let's come back down to earth and recognize that you can be happy. There once was a place called Swords Pavilions we shopped and ate till we had our fill again. He added more shops and our bags did fill again. Good old Swords Pavilions begin again. At Swords Pavilions we've always had Swords Pavilions, we've always had great food,

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Just being with a baloney sandwich of a person, you know. Who doesn't love a fucking baloney sandwich every once in a while, you know, mmm you like a bologna sandwich I used to but no it's a giant hot dog. It's a it's a cousin of a hot dog And I it's a kind of a hot dog. I'll tell you though Oscar Myers bologna is fairly sterilized I don't think that's gonna upset your stomach Profile Yeah, I Would it I would put a bologna sandwich with a slice of American cheese and a little dab of mustard on probably my Mount Rush Morph

sandwiches. Oh, I used to do that right up until I was like 18 or 20. You know, I think that's the only food that is often referred to being made of the lips and assholes of various animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'd love to be a part of kind of regenerative food consumption, right?

Like, let's not waste, I'll eat it. Good for you, Dill. That's nice of you to do. Well, Emily stops by the new place and is impressed by the square footage. They break down the game film of that nanny reaching out and getting on that podcast. And sorry, I've done this a couple times times, but you know, if you have someone

about Rushmore sandwiches, I'm I'm not going to go, you know, to specific stores and talk about specific men. You know, of course. Well, what are we doing here? You know, it's like, for example, one of mine would be a white type of bread, Duke's salt pepper. Tomato.

And a tomato from Bose. Yeah. That's all. That's very specific, but you could say tomato sandwich. I mean, before I cut back on my meat consumption, it's, I don't think this is, it's indisputable. It's the meatball sandwich. No, that's disputable.

That's too much for me, actually. Pat loves a meatball sandwich. Uh, no, that's disputable. That's too much for me actually. Pat loves a meatball though. That loves a subway meatball. The fact that it's, it's floppy. Like one of those things outside of a car dealership, but not quite as without a spinal column. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The bread does not hold the sauce. No, no, it would be, uh, you know PB&J's got to be up there. Oh yeah. Definitely. A classic turkey is up there. Very, very difficult to beat, you know, and you can't put tuna on there just because there's such a big spectrum of the salad, you know, it could be delicious. It's the number one sandwich sold at Subway. Yeah, yeah, like we said probably want to steer away from that because you can quite easily sneak really any liquid into there. Go ahead. Well I was gonna say Emily's pretty upset about this whole nanny podcast

business and she thinks it's because... And get in the comments let us know your favorite sandwiches. Yeah because Emily feels that Katie's coming after her kids and I don't think she's coming after her kids. She's coming after you because you fucking destroyed her on that reunion. Yeah. And then I couldn't believe they went after the custody thing. Yeah.

It's very enlightening, though. I had not understood how deep it went with her life. Well, Katie makes a good point, I think, when she was ambushed by a by a. And we're calling meatball Travis's meatball. No, I'm sorry. I screwed up. I call it Gina meatball. We call calling meatball, Travis's meatball. No, I'm sorry. I screwed up. I call Gina meatball. We call Gina meatball, right? Yeah. So meatball ambush Katie with Emily.

And Katie brings up a good point. Like, I'm not the one that broke the promise. You're the one that said stop doing this. And then you brought up my custody and my trauma at the reunion. So actually pretty gross. I wouldn't. And I would like to point out again, I do think the Katie is a weird shady, very, like I don't know the lies are there, they're everywhere.

For Emily and Heather to go into her past and find out that like, my understanding is that she, something was very horrible that happened and she had to go to a fucking like woman's shelter. So she couldn't take her kids. So her awful ex-husband had to take them. And then she did get custody and they brought that up. Like,

true or not true. Let's not go there. Right. Exactly. Just maybe we leave that one out. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. It's just the lies and I don't know who Katie is. And I agree, Pat. Yeah, sorry. Ripley's believe it or not. I'd probably say leave that one alone, though. Yeah. Yeah. I'd, Pat. Yeah, sorry. Ripley's believe it or not, I'd probably say leave that one alone though. Yeah? Yeah.

I'd say not. All right. Katie is pretty upset by all of it. Shannon's, oh, they go out for coffee, I think. Shannon suggests they chat and Gina shares she invited Katie to coffee. Sorry. And then Emily is too busy to deal with this bitch. Her words not mine.

Yeah. Sorry. All right. Then we jump over with Shannon checking in on Stella. And apparently, Stella is doing great. She's globe trotting on mommy and daddy's money. Yeah, clearly a way to buy her love after being two idiots as parents for 15 years. Yeah. And I'll say something really quickly. Drugs don't kill you. They can. But they can also

be very fun. I get it. But I kind of liked this. Yeah. You do drugs, you die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's the problem having a, having a kid that's never touched a drug? I don't have an issue with that. Um, a little bit of a socially when you're in college, uh, yeah, might make you an outsider when everyone's trying to rip it up a little bit. You know, what are you, a weirdo? Oh, what are you judging me? Cause I'm doing a line of blow over here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what happens to that person? They get on stage, they say welcome to Oklahoma and they die. Next thing you know, their brother's lying, carrying water for him in the press. Yeah. I mean, that's not a good scenario, right?

Don't do that to your families, okay? I want my that's not a good scenario, right? Don't do that to your family. OK, I want to stay clean. I want my children to not drink and not do drugs. Yeah. You know, I went back in my history because obviously I've had my struggles. I just like Hitler. Yeah. I honestly started drinking at 13. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did. I started smoking at 11 was my first cigarette.

Wow. Yeah. Whoa. That's a bad habit, Dylan. I was a fucking loser. Yeah. And didn't do anything until I was pretty old. Yeah, you suck.

Yeah, and now you smoke weed. All the time. Meanwhile, Max is doing great. We're at Harry, Heather, DeBrow and Terry continue with their only storyline, which is look how much real estate we own and look how amazing our lives are. You poor motherfuckers. Look at how sound our investments are.

Yeah, good luck. Bring her on. Oh, also, also it would be so good because I forgot that Kyle is there too. So like as Mauricio and Kyle are reconciling, okay, so he will blindly back Kyle in whatever arguments she gets into because she's going to have to defend herself against LVP. And then she'll be able to just, they'll eviscerate Heather and Terry from the real estate standpoint. And then Terry will hire a PI and we'll find out

that actually the agency is indeed, as you both have said, $43,000 million in debt. And that's $43 trillion billion if you're keeping track of the zeros. Yes. Yes. Sorry for the digression here. Is Kyle and Mauricio, are they reconciling currently? I think that they will soon. Yeah. So that's why. Pretty expensive.

I will dare on the look because of women I love's reconciling with her husband. I'm gonna sing a song about it. Jesus Christ. Yeah. That was my Morgan. Thank you for the performance. So we come here at the top of the show, they got a bad bid from a contractor and Terry is wearing a ridiculous leather jacket. Yep. All right. Meatballs. Oh, sorry. Emily's house. She feels ashamed.

She procreated with a smelly dwarf. Sorry. Sometimes I just write down random because her kids are going to look like wimps like their dad. Oh my God. Did I write that down? Yeah. And Emily's not meatball. No, no I know I'm sorry. Oh okay. Yeah I say it. Guys let's take a quick beat to talk about an amazing company called Vaya.

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Oh, can I say something that I really appreciated? Yeah, sure. And I think that this is very typical of moms probably, I don't have kids, but they take it a little harder than dads do just because of biology, but Emily fucking spiraling and Shane being like, listen, He likes wheat thins. That's a step to a meal I like a meal one day and I and the crime is here. So Jane is finally seven

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I, listen. I've always been amazed, like, when you have a picky eater, how do they get nutrition? It's amazing to me. Like, what happens if you have a picky eater, how do they get nutrition? It's amazing to me. Like what happens if you have a kid that's like, no, I only eat chicken tenders and mac and cheese.

It's like, well, how do they get things? Does Ellie, Ellie a picky eater? It changes. That's why I think this is a pretty stupid storyline. Yeah. And by the way, she should be handed her walking papers if this is going to carry her through 16 episodes. It's I hope not. Um, you know, with kids, they just like food will be sitting there on a plate for 30 minutes

and then they'll walk over to it and eat a couple of bites and then just, I don't know, they just like, they don't, they don't, they're not really that food motivated. Yeah. There's a lot of whimsy out there to look at. Who needs bow-tie pasta when you've got an imagination? Right. I agree. All right. Emily explains the disorder.

And then let's see. Oh, here we go. This was the best part of the episode. I love this. All right. Tamrat's therapy session. She shares she was hurt. We get a lot of chyrons of headlines from websites

that nobody reads. No one cares. And no one reads it. This episode had 70 of them. To be fair, they should have done podcasts because there is footage of me mocking her for when she said she was on the spectrum. Do that.

Yeah. Ribs? Yeah, I mean, reading those articles, I do., I do and then send you guys screenshots of but you're right. I think I'm in the in the 1% of the losers that do that there. Also, we we again, we know that none of these people are real doctors or they can't be real licensed anything's. This woman though unabashedly had a cocktail. The entire time the therapist or Tamrat? No, the therapist. And

that's why this woman is Dylan. No. Run it back. It was probably an electrolyte beverage. Okay, well then don't put it in something that makes it look like you're having a cocktail. It's had to have been a liquid IV or an element or something. She's keeping it. That's how she does therapy. I do want to clear some things up though. If this is in my opinion, come at me if you want to. Tamrat is not on the spectrum. She suffers from being an absolute horrible person.

Yeah, she has, she's a bitch. Her persona and livelihood have been mocking people at their lowest time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, and to drive the knife further, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. You are who you are at this point. What is she, 62?

I feel like autistic people aren't evil in a catty kind of way, you know? Like, well, although I'm not sure. I don't know enough about the disorder and I feel like Elon's probably pretty catty sometimes. So yeah, I should just shut my mouth. But yeah, Tamra is probably just a bitch. Well, right. All right. So Dr. Drew said, and I know a lot of people hate Dr. Drew, he said, like, if someone's an alcoholic at 65, let them ride it out. Same thing

with drug addicts. Like if they're like doing drugs or addicted to heroin, he said at 65, they got like whatever they got left. Don't don't even try and stop it. Yeah, Tamrat is a horrible person. She makes a lot of money. Stay on the spectrum. I don't know how you're gonna cure this. Yeah, I know who you are that she has like she doesn't have like multiple personality disorder. She's not a narcissist. I think she quite literally is just a bitch. And yeah, she's been a bitch for probably a long time. And that's fine. Just be a bitch. Who cares?

On women's jeans, do you zip up with the left hand or the right hand? Ooh, that's not a question for me, sir. Well, what's your zipper? How's your zipper facing? Is it it's facing towards your right, right? Oh, that's what you're asking. You would zip it up with the right hand, right? Oh yes, I guess I would. Ruby, is it opposite on women's? I'm very, I was feeling my zipper, I was very confused by it. Sorry, sorry. I know this is derailing us a little bit, but. Well, she's checking for you. I mean, she's really going through the wardrobe right now. No, it opens to the right also. So. Oh, okay. Well. The left-handed people really get the short end of the stick in the society.

Are you kidding me? They only make like three guitars a year for left hand players. I really feel bad. They make so few of them, you have to flip them upside down and string them upside down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what Jimmy did. That's right. Tamrat explained she's mean as a defense mechanism. So she's not hurt by people or disappointed by them. Welcome to being a human being. You bitch.

I wonder if therapists ever get impatient with people for not ever listening to them or if they're just like, catching. Yeah. Howard Stern has been in therapy for 32 years twice a week I was just talking to my friend who does the the young and stuff He introduced me to the young and stuff, which I'm not doing right now Because it's too expensive and also it's too expensive and also it's kind of Yeah, he said that I was talking about how ludicrous it was that our therapist was as expensive as she is. He said she charges less than her comrades, $400 an hour.

If you were paying $400 an hour for therapy, and therapy that you're supposed to be doing for the rest of your life, what? Twenty years ago I was paying 200 an hour. 200 an hour in the early 2000s is bananas. Crazy right? Wow. That's 400 today I would say. Yeah that's right. I went to Carl's Jr. yesterday $17 for a meal. Don't go to Carl's Jr. What? Are you kidding me? That's Air 1. That's Air one. Carl's Jr. I don't know what happened. It is so disgusting. I was thinking about you.

I got a chicken sandwich. Ugh. It was gross. It wasn't chicken, I'm telling you. Oh, god, no. Had the texture of a hoof. By the way. Ew.

All right, back to the proceedings. Jen and Ryan go wedding dress shopping. These people are the trashiest people I think I've ever seen on this franchise. Now I don't want to flame the OC, but it is a land of- Strip malls. Strip malls and fraudulent or inflated senses of wealth. Okay. Yes. Malibu rum and bikini weddings. I don't know what we're doing here. We might as well be at a freaking motorcycle convention. I'll tell you what we're doing here. I think Ryan is, uh, is broke.

And that's why he wants her, he doesn't wanna have to pay for an actual wedding dress. Yeah, that's a great take. He's lucky he didn't do fucking prison time. I love how we just squashed the idea, like he was literally laundering money, stolen money in Vegas. Yep.

This is not gonna end well because I don't think he's gainfully employed. I don't think he was ever gainfully employed. I think he was a loser who hit the lottery knowing other sketchy people involved in criminal activities. And now that that that's not He's a sketch meister. He's lily padded his entire life from sketchy thing to sketchy thing. And when those things dry up, which they invariably do because they're sketchy, you can't do anything legitimate because you've only done sketchy things. That's right You know, you don't know a good day's work. So now that the money taps off Do we know what he's doing for work right now? You know, I mean, no, but like Pat He's just gonna like he'll continue to Lily pad like the place that they went that store a bathing suit a bikini from that store

Will run you anywhere from two to five hundred dollars. So it's like but a wedding dress will run you anywhere from $200 to $500. So it's like, but a wedding dress will run you anywhere from, you know, anything from way too much to, oh my God, oh my God. Oh my God. So yeah, I agree. It's, it is trashy, but it's also, this scene made me think to myself, are these people weirdly like, should we just let them like run it all their money out, live in a trailer together. They'll be happy. I think actually with Malibu rum and Mountain Dew, Mountain Dew, maybe. All right. I think it's only going to get bad for them because Oh, definitely. Yeah. Yeah.

She's, she's a classic case of I need to find myself in a man who's going to completely throw my identity in flux that she's just he will disappoint. Oh, yeah, 100% and speaking of wedding dresses You know that he man villain that Jeff Bezos is married to yeah I think hers was like 700 million dollars or something. Do you know I knew her and I worked for her. Oh, did you really? Oh, yeah Yeah, I one time walked by her right around the time in her backyard and I heard her like, Oh, I love you too, baby. She was married to a CA, CA, Patrick Whitesell. Yes. And she may have been talking to Jeff Bezos as I walked by her. Oh, that's cool. She was back. Yeah. Yeah.

It's crazy when we talk about doing things to the face when we talk about the wall. That's what we're talking about. Yeah, she was still hot though. I used to look at her, I'd be like, oh my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you feel now when you see her? Well, I only see her through the cameras now and television. Right, right. But you know.

It's amazing, I wonder what these women do to secure commitment from these, like, you can pee in my butt if you're like what what do they do you know yeah maybe it's love maybe it's definitely not some women have it like I have a friend who shall go nameless she has never dated someone that's not a millionaire since she was 20 years old. Yeah. And she is not a looker. Oh really?

She's got some special whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told my wife, I joked about my wife cause it's a friend of mine. And I said, if she looked like Lauren Sanchez, she would be, she'd be living on the moon right now. Right, right, right. She's that good.

She turned Sam Altman straight. Is he the richest man in the world? He's just the head of OpenAI. Oh, okay. Yeah. Also, Pat, just to clarify, Lauren Sanchez looks like a very, very, very scary Bratz doll wax figure. Yeah. Look, it's been 10 years, but when I, when I used to see her in person,

I thought she was like super. You guys remember house of wax? Oh yeah. Paris Hilton. Yeah. That's great movie. All right. Let's get back to it. Okay. All right. Anyway, uh, let's see. All right. So, um, they don't want Tam rat at the wedding. Uh, and by the way, I forgot this as a storyline. Apparently, Eddie has no problem with this. Was Tamrat hitting on Ryan? Or is this just a made up story? So I'm not really sure. Here's what I'll say. I think that Tamra and Eddie, about two years ago when you said this is they're headed for divorce, I think they looked at each other and Eddie said, listen, I want to ride my bikes in the woods in Big Bear and with meth. And Tamara said, I want to go to the gym in Orange County.

And he said, fine. And then they just kind of didn't ask and then didn't tell. I could absolutely see Tamara wanting to fuck somebody at the gym. We kind of knew this. Jen mentioned this a little bit last season, but this specific, like, should I go upstairs? That was new. And I think that that's probably an embellished lie. Ah, okay. You heard it. You heard it here, folks. All right. Nighttime dinner. Heather DeBrow gives Emily something. They discuss Max not having anxiety in Paris and Tamrat arrives. They remark that she looks good and skinny and Tamrat met

Katie at the Quiet Woman and called her out for creating stories. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. And then there's that pod called The Vault that no one cares about and Katie claims that they reached out to her. They have to get better mics. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I heard that bad audio. I looked up the vault. I couldn't even is that a podcast Ruby that anybody listens to? I not shockingly actually I'm not even me. Okay. I'll say this Tamrat might be a horrible person, but don't fuck

with her because she she does really good research on people. She's evil. She will destroy you. She's bonafide, people. She's evil. Yeah. She will destroy you. She's bonafide, evil, rotten to the core. And you know who's not good at research? Meatball. Well, she's not good either, but Katie. She's not good at this.

She's not good at trying to ruin people. No. As the ladies continue to chat, Jen exposes Katie as a con artist, or she calls her that. Yeah, it's amazing the friendships, the quality of friendships that these women all have with one another. Yeah, it's like sisters of the traveling pants.

Yeah, we talk 10 times a day. Also she calls me a con artist behind my back. Amazing, amazing. Jen said that she does not recall saying that, so perhaps that did not happen. We saw it on tape. Okay. We saw it on tape. Emily and Gina drive. Emily shares, Luke is on the spectrum and Gina bonds because her daughter Sienna has sentry.

He's not on the spectrum yet, but Orphid is possibly an indicator that you have. Thank you for that correction. And also what it may be an indicator is kind of new media, child care specialists, bringing you in and just kind of shackling you to more systems that need to be done through their correct. Right. Yeah, right. Yeah. My daughter was told that she had hearing issues. Yeah. She doesn't. Because I said, she's fine. Because what I do is I go, it's not because you said she's

fine. It's because you went to another doctor. All right, fine. She's fine. But I knew like, like, I just threw a ball at the wall. And when she turned her head because she heard it, she's fucking fine. You know, my I had a really big, a big birth. Like my whole face, half my face had a birthmark on it. And apparently a bunch of doctors tried to tell mom and dad that I should get plastic surgery because I would be bullied and relentlessly. I'd never do anything with my life and they were just like, well, whatever, we figured out. And it did go away,

thank God, but they didn't care enough to do anything about it. A lot of these things are, you don't need to do them and a lot of them you do need to do and I feel bad for anybody involved. Yes, and it's very difficult for parents because you know obviously. Yeah, I noticed my son Quentin. I'm like looking at him with his shirt off the other day. He's gonna be two in a month and I'm like what's with all the fucking hair on his back? And I made a big deal out of it. I was like starting to like is this my kid? I don't have anybody in my family with this much hair on their back. Yeah, no, it'll shut. I hope so. It'll shut.

My wife told me, leave him alone. Yeah. Yeah. And also Pat, don't, don't make him self-conscious of this at a young age. Okay. Right. Yeah. Uh, okay.

Uh, Ambush, Gina surprises Katie with Emily and I think she smells blood in the water. Uh, Katie explains that, uh, it was a bunch of bloggers that reached out to her. Is that what she said? Yeah. Katie basically says that when the blogger reached out to her to say, like, I had a shared experience with you, that, that she said, well, this is the podcast that my daughter went on.

So reach out to them and like go on it and talk to them about it. I agree. First of all, Katie said it. She was like, I should have just ignored it. And I didn't. And I was really pissed off. So that's why I responded with that information.

The reaction Emily had was as though Katie told the blogger that Shane is a pedophile and she had proof of him like sexually doing something with their children. It was like, oh whoa, that was weird to me and I was very happy that she had to go get banned in shortly thereafter. Yeah and as I think you brought up the hypocrisy, Emily brought up the whole custody thing during that reunion so you know those were glass houses should not throw stones. No, they shouldn't. I mean, it's ridiculous. You live in a

your house is glass house. What are you doing? Dumb. I don't care how thick the pains are. I mean, you can crack anything really if it's glass. Yeah, we bounce around with about that everyone preparing to stay at the golden door. Oh, the Golden Door. I always forget that lady's name, Lili Sebesky or something.

The actress? Yeah. In the Glass House. Oh, the Glass House. Yeah. What was her name? Lili Sebucsky? Her problem was she looked exactly like another actress.

She looks just like another actress. Let's talk about the golden door because I'm fascinated by these places. Ruby, hold on, Ruby do you know who we're talking about the actress? No. Okay. Yes she does. Okay hold on. Lily Sibetsky. I'm gonna type in Lily Sibetsky lookal alike. Sibeski. What? Leely Sibeski is right, Dylan. Leely Sibeski, wow. I gotta say.

Oh, the girl from Girls? Is she, was she in Girls? Wait, what? No, why does she look? Oh, she's in a bunch of pictures with Gemma. Oh. No, I just, I don't know who this know. She was in the glass house. Have you ever seen the glass house, Robs? Yeah, I didn't remember her. I've also seen Deep Impact and

never been kissed. Oh, yeah. Deep Impact. Who does she look like? That's what I'm going to find out right now. Patrick's not going to find that out. I'm going to talk about that. I'm going to find out. I'm going to talk about the golden door while he's looking at that. I'm fascinated by these, is this like a wellness and rehab facility or something? Yes. I think that this is like, I went on a Reddit that was like, what is this place about a subreddit? And people were basically like, if you buy into this fucking bullshit, you'll come out of it feeling pretty good about yourself for a week or two.

Yeah. So these are little nodes of proof that the human species is doomed right? Because you know the things the thing that's most important in the western canon is progress and what happens when you progress is you kind of a little bit like chopping your face up you you kind of hit a wall at a certain point, be it with robots or having enough dispensable income or disposable income to spend however much it is a night at places with wind chime rewards and big drums that you bang on. All right. So I've talked about this a lot. Uh, Shannon is really in trouble here spending 12 grand a night, uh, to try and make progress. Here's what Shanna needs to do.

Get a fucking job. Yeah, you gotta. Patrick Whale. Walmart. No. Idle hands are the devil's playground. I think she should maybe, if I, if, okay. Now, just.

I volunteered an old person. Well, I wanna talk about volunteering for Shanna Medora. If she was a docent, Well, I want to talk about volunteering for Shannon Baddour. If she was a docent, I would be it would be it would take certain people who are real art enthusiasts out of the whole experience. But if I was at LACMA and I saw Shannon Baddour in a little tuxedo.

Here's the thing. One person goes up to her in a little bit of a stern tone and is like, ma'am, I've been looking for this for this exhibit for some time. And she just looks at them and just her eyes well up with tears. She just goes, I'm not going to do this and walks out. And she leaves. So Pat, again, it brings me back to, I don't think she's the most employable, but I do agree. She's got gotta fucking cut this out.

Yes. Get into Frisbee golf or something. Pickle bar. Move to Arizona, to a less expensive place than Orange County. It'll be nice year round. You can still walk to the bars. Your kids will visit you still,

and you will save money because you can't spend $12,000 a night here. You can't, Shannon. You can't do it. It'll be nice year round if you think 110 degrees is nice. When you're, when that look, when you're getting older and you, you're like trying to find meaning, be a mentor, volunteer. That's how you get better. Connect with your community. She's not doing any of those things. No, she's well, she's connecting with the local, you know the bargoers

Yeah, well, here's a little info from the Golden Door. It's pretty famous Oprah comes here. So does Julia and Shannon's Grammy comes here to really a place Julia what? Roberts I Think the Golden Door might be in financial rules if if if they're allowing them to film here. Yeah. Right. It's like a restaurant that starts doing karaoke.

This the Golden Door feels to me like like the restaurant catch, you know, like maybe maybe at a certain point, this was a place that like, people were going and if you were going, you knew that you were rich. Now, I don't know that that's what this place looked like anymore, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It looked like a cheap rundown summer camp. No boo's not doing karaoke anytime soon. No. No boo's not doing karaoke anytime soon. No. Craig's isn't doing karaoke. Right. Will someday though. Yeah. All right. The cast arrives. Tamrat is a mess because of Teddy's diagnosis. Yeah. How's Teddy doing by the way Ruby? You know what? I

actually would like to look that up. I am not sure. I did see Katie Thurston from The Bachelor. I think I just read this more or a couple of days ago that her tumors are shrinking. So that's good. Well, she was misdiagnosed and she's suing the doctor that had, she had cancer. Wait, what? Yeah. Wait, what? She misdiagnosed cancer? She clearly has the same issue. Look it up. I'll continue. As the cast arrives, Emily points out

Katie is a fucking liar. And the documents are in her iPhone in notes. Oh, yeah. That's where I write my notes, because I'm old. All right, as much as I hate Heather DeBrow, she's right. Katie is sketchy and gross. And then I also have to say this. This is not a great promotion for the business.

Let's hang out in the woods. Here's some bamboo and do a version of summer camp for old people run by men that are balding and questioning their sexuality. So just to touch base again, really quickly, I felt like when they started playing those drums were at the Ewok village. So, OK, so yeah. Yeah. So so Katie Thurston is so Katie Thurston actually has breast cancer. She will be on a treatment plan for life.

So I don't know what whoever Pat was talking about. She hasn't sued anybody for misdiagnosis. Ruby, looking up is Katie Thurston suing. No, I just did look it up and if you look that up, it has to do with her rape case, but nothing with the misdiagnosis of cancer. But listen, we got to move on because the ladies sit down and that's when the Wi-Fi starts to get a little bit spotty. Pat's on a mission. He's vengeful right now.

I'm not going to allow Dylan to do this to me. I would love for her to be misdiagnosed. Fuck off cancer. Let's go. It's just that five days ago she announced that she was going to be on a treatment plan for life and that her tumors were shrinking. So what a week for Katie. treatment plan for life and that her tumors were shrinking. So what a week for Katie. When they sit down after everyone is just like standing there like the worst half circle at summer camp, when you show up

and everyone's just like, I hate you, why are you here? And it's like clicky and everybody wants to like shit their pants and you have butterflies, but you're like 50. That would be really hard, truly. It would be really hard to walk up there. What is he reading? Katie Thurston, the former Bachelorette is reportedly taking legal action against doctors due to a misdiagnosis. She has publicly stated that she is seeking accountability after receiving

a misdiagnosis. Well, this is my phone talking by the way.. Oh, she's suing the doctor for not telling her that she had cancer. Oh, see, I just read the headlines. Yeah. Such a problem these days. Which, which. You just read the headlines. You should sue.

That's why we're so uninformed. Yep. OK, well, Pat, get into the nitty gritty of this Katie thing because. Oh, OK. Yeah. All right, so Tamrat spends some time during the health retreat saying Jen sucks for calling Eddie gay.

And then Gina, AKA Meatball, had a line of the night. Oh, Shannon pays for shit that she doesn't doesn't do anything. No way. I was drunk when I wrote this. No, I wrote this down. Hold on. Shannon used to have crystals in her walls. So she's used to paying for things that don't do anything. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, and she's right. Good one, meatball. Okay, so Katie mentioned she wants to know if everyone will join for a hotspot.

Asian costume. Hot. Hot. Wow, I got to, you know, I probably got to come back on the drink. Yeah, yeah, it's an Asian custom. Worth mentioning she had no clue what Tai Chi was earlier in the episode. Yeah, yeah.

OK, who is this monster? Then what does Dr. Drew say about people who aren't 65? OK. I'll look that up. OK, but Katie's friends with a lot of bloggers. Okay. I looked that up. Okay. But Katie's friends with a lot of bloggers and Emily threatens Katie with having, uh, she's going to sue that nanny. Yeah.

You're going to take her for everything she's worth. Well, it's very expensive to get a cease and desist for your old nanny, apparently. And it's costing Emily so much money that it's making her fucking cry and scream. And so again, this is kind of similar to Lupita, Pat. Like, I don't know, these nannies are really raking it in. I mean, these things are doing well, like good for them. Yeah, it's kind of your exit strategy. You work for a family for 20 years.

And then when you kind of age out of it or the kids are, you're no longer needed that's when their back starts hurting and then they you get a you get a letter in the mail yeah yeah anyway Katie explains the bloggers lie a lot and Katie would love to clear all this up unfortunately the Wi-Fi is bad yeah nothing you can do about that about that. OK, 5G, where you at? Everybody get in the comments. Let us know what you thought about the episode. Five stars, kind words.

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