Another Below Deck Podcast - The Good, the Bad and the Sea Rats | Below Deck Down Under S4 E14

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Dylan and Pat are back to break down Michael Jackson, burying the hatchet, lagoons, palm strikes, snoring, paranoia, Pete Holmes, pillows, shrimp cocktail and more from Bravo's Below Deck Down UnderPATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

Daisy and Jenna chat, and she says, they're talking about Mikey and how annoying and annoyed Jenna is by Mikey. Daisy says to her, in a moment of real like sisterhood, she says, you're used to that because... Hold on.

You got a cigarette? And Jenna's like, Jenna's like, that means the world. Hey, welcome aboard. Another brand spanking new episode of Below Deck. Nope, it's the bad TV podcast where we talk about lots of different things tonight. We're going to be talking about Below Deck. Kalen's here.

Kalen, his mic's off. Pat's here. More importantly, Pat's here, okay? The working mic. I mean, this guy. Give him alone. You're always picking on him. Kalen.

Kalem, what's going on over there? Are you okay? Well, it's not working. Oh, geez. That's all right. You think it's okay? I think so. He seems pretty panicked about it, though.

I think he'll be fine. Okay, he'll be fine. All right. So we have this episode to get into. It was episode, it feels like 60? I'm enjoying the season. It's not running long for me. No, I mean, listen.

I like seasons that we're getting into the good part of the season. There have been many, many episodes, and we're kind of, we don't know where we are, but we're tour, what was 60, 70% done? I think so. Yeah, probably there's probably three episodes left. Let me give you an example of when I know it's a bad season and sorry to call back, because Daisy's been an absolute delight this season. Her on that season where there was the love triangle between her and Colin and Gary, that was unwatchable television. And then that final season where Gary came back and, like, they had shelf the season, but just absolutely unwatchable. Still had a romance in the past that they were hung up on.

And they were smoking so much. That was extremely bad below-deck television. This is good. I like the characters because it's always about interesting people. Jenna. So why do we get a shit can? Jenna is interesting. It was time to fire Mikey.

Dare I say four episodes too long. Oh, yeah. I think Chef Ben is interesting. I honestly think he needs to stop drinking. drinking. He's a troubled man. Uh-huh. And I've lost a lot of trust in the world. Well, I've grown to like, look, we all have.

Boo-hoo. I got dumped. Wee! I mean, we've all had like bad things happen to us. Dude, you're being paid to be on TV, all right? Yeah. Get out of here. Okay. Well, we have PSAs to get to.

Oh, sure. Very important recapping is going on at patreon.com. Slash. Another podcast network? That's it. Okay. We're doing Summerhouse there. Yep.

It was one of our hilarious patrons commented. Amanda Goes West. It's pretty good. It's really good. Yeah. I'm going to find that person. I want to give credit because that's really good. And then we shouldn't call it this command of West of all.

We should say Amanda Goes West. Amanda goes West. And also our coverage of Real Housewives of Rhode Island. That show is absolutely fun. We do another podcast network. This week we had garbage tits, a listener on our show. We had garbage tits. We had garbage tests on the show.

Where her and 99 other people went in to break into a science facility where they were torturing beagles. And she told us a great story. And then I bitch about having to volunteer at my kid's school. And Dylan talks about how he almost punched a guy that works at a golf place. Real fun stuff. Anyway, and then PMZ, that's the $10 tier. We dropped an episode where I actually got some of that footage from that Michael Jackson movie that got cut out where it's some of that bad stuff that you don't want to see about Michael that they didn't want.

So they ended up on the floor, you know, where Michael was not being good, Michael. You know, he's being bad. He's being real bad. Anyway, my crack team in the Philippines, Yahoo, Tony, Tony, and then Tony with the Y. He and somehow they got the footage. And I have it on PMC. Yeah, Kevin Costner plays an audio engineer who is struggling with the chosen lyrics that Michael lays down for human nature.

It was the original lyrics. for human nature. He said, I think... Catch me there. I think to remember he said, we don't need to get into it. You can go to Patreon.com slash another podcast network if you want to hear that. A Britton is the person that said we should call it a man.

He goes, well, let's go to Patreon.com slash another podcast network. A robust community. It's in the show notes. Let's get into it. How many pots would you give this episode? But first, let's ask Kalin. How many pots would you give it? He doesn't have a mic. A hundred. A hundred. A hundred. A hundred. A hundred. A hundred. A hundred. A hundred. A hundred. go ahead how many pots okay this episode was interesting lots of stuff going on here although not a lot

happened but the stuff that did was interesting to me ben in a fit of jealous rage walking up on that bow and thinking that jo wow i think joie i think joe i was considering trying to have sex with jena oh for sure and he didn't walk up there he more flopped down on his belly which is not a very sexy move but go ahead ben you've kind of stepped on Eddie's dick to steal Jennifer from Eddie, and then you've made out with her a couple times. She's technically not your girlfriend, and she's in a hot tub with Joal. And she could technically do the same thing to you.

Yeah. And you're jealous, mad about it. As Michael Jackson would say. There's the rules. Yeah. Get these girls out here. I love a... What the fuck are you doing bringing all these little girls?

in here. That's disgusting. Go ahead. That was a scene in the movie. Yeah. Told you I don't have sex with children. Go ahead. All right.

Fuck. Okay. Mikey getting fired. God. I mean, he was just really poor. I come in here. There's 15 girls in here. I told him, get them to fuck out of here.

Okay, go ahead. All right. And then. And, uh, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that jealousy was weird. Uh, Daisy telling the Balkan biscuit for no reason other than to just wind her up. This was a, this was a curb your enthusiasm episode.

Who takes shrimp? Who takes shrimp out of somebody's hand? Not me. That was insane. But what started that was she told the Balkan biscuit, hey, I just for, for, for transparency sake, I just want to, you probably notice I wasn't in my bunk last night. Yeah. And you're probably wondering where I was. Well, it was with the guy that you really like that you're obsessed over.

So, yeah. That's okay. I'm not obsessed with him. Oh, no, that speech was great at the end there. Yeah. Like Ben was looking at her. Like, I think you're insane. You know, darling, it's best to just not talk about these things.

Oh, no, don't worry about it because I'm definitely not harboring any ill will or unhealthy feelings or insidious thoughts about hurting anyone or associated with him, including co-workers that I may or may not have believed he was hooking up within a jacuzzi. I've grown a lot. Sure, sure. That was, it started Bjork. Oh. And then it went to Gentleman of the Manor.

Very well, that didn't sound like the Balkan Biscuit. No, no, no. All right. Anyway, let's get in the show. I really like this episode. I thought he was one of the best ones I've seen this season, 14 knots. I give it 17 pots. Let's get into it. Pat, where do we start?

All right. We're still at that head of department's, outing there for drinks. And I'm not sure what the intention of this little get-together was. I thought it was to bury the hatchet with any bad ill will or whatever? The hatchet is what? The hatchet is in the person and then you take it out and you go, sorry about the hatchet and then you both bury it.

What's that? These old-timey phrases, I have no goddamn idea where they came from, how they work. Kalen's on the ones and twos. I think he's going to look that up. But Ben comes outside. He says, you've unearthed. the hatchet. Well.

Why have you on earth the hatchet? You've put it in my back. Well. And for that, I say, pay for the tab. Send me the bill. Ultimately, because he's mad because it's an impromptu employee review.

And the sea rats hate those. What's the etymology of it? Native American tribes were very... I had a feeling. Do you think the audience heard that? I didn't want to pitch that because I didn't want to pitch that. because I didn't want it to come off as insensitive. Tell the audience what it is because they didn't hear him.

It's a Native American thing. We're after they scalp someone, they put the hatchet. No, no, no. No. No. Hey, can I tell the personal story about ball busting and how it's not right sometimes? Yeah, of course. When I was a teenager. Patrick, this is your show. Okay. Our show, my friend.

No, no, no. I know it's our show, but it's your show. You can talk about personal stories. I want to see if anybody relates to this because when Ben was just kind of just mining his own business, I mean, to be fair, he'd had probably one too many. And then they just start going after him, right? We're out for drinks, relaxing. Yeah. You just start telling me what a fucking piece of shit I am.

Yeah, and he's like, where the hell? All the boys are on it. I could relate in that thing because it's like I used to be watching TV in my house because I live next to my Grammy. It was a duplex. She'd show up on our side of the house. I'm mind of my own god and business. She'd sit next to me and she'd start,

rifling off that I was a bad kid like unprovoked she'd be like you know you don't listen to your mother you don't appreciate anything anybody does for you and I'd be like what the fuck is this coming from my Grammy oh got it fast forward 10 years later yeah I come home from

L.A I'm on a fucking TV show I sit down she comes sits next to me she pulls the same bullshit she starts telling me like rifling off this same spiel you know you never appreciate your mother what she does for you or whatever I turn her I said I don't know if you heard, but I'm not a kid anymore.

I'm an adult, a successful one. Wow. More successful than any fucking loser in this family could ever be. Wow. Beat it. Yeah. And she did. And you know what?

She boycotted Christmas that year. Yeah. That was sad. These things happen, you know, you run up against the holidays. You go, Grandma's really going to hold out on this one, right? She's really sending a message. Well, shoot your flares, you old bitch. No one's coming to get you.

We tried. You'll die in a hospital. ward in two years. Oh, gosh. No, she lived another 20. Oh, ew. Anyway, Ben Storms off. She seemed like a real rotten human being.

You know, she was negative sometimes, but I still love Grammy. Do you? Yeah, but that used to piss me off. Okay. Today's episode is brought to you by Loomy. Imagine if Edibles just made you feel good instead of too high. Okay. I don't have to imagine, Dylan.

Okay. Yeah. You know, I'm going to take a Loomy right now, so I relax more. Well, I got to tell you, I'm running low on Loomie the other night. I tell the wife, we're low on Loomie. I need you to go out, get some swill, okay? Frankly, she comes back. I take them. What happens? Way too high. Uncomfortably high. I'm up all night. I'm seeing things plunge at my face. Creatures from beyond that are trying to communicate with me, but I'm not in the right state of mind, okay? Loomy will have you communing with forces of nature unseen responsibly.

Wow. Okay. I want to go there. Yeah, of course. The other night I was super stressed. So I took a hybrid strawberry cookie gummy. I got in the bath. Let me tell you.

I can't remember the last time I was that relaxed. Was I there too? No, no. This was just me. You weren't there. They've got watermelon sorbet. They've got Durbin Skittles, Pena Colada Cush. That's a really, really good one. For a daytime, Pena Colaola Cush, I love it.

Listen, people love these. Pat's not even a big pot guy, and he loves Loon. Oh, yeah. I love him. They help me sleep. Yeah, tell them about what happened after the carnival. You needed to relax, right? Yeah, I was wound up. Three days of straight work, 12 hours a day. You know, parents weren't showing up that said they were going to volunteer. I did all the work myself. So what did you do? Well, Sunday night, I need to shut my brain down. I just took one of those Skiddle Gummies, knocked me out within 15 minutes. Boom.

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So this leaves Daisy and Jewel some time to sit and mush a little bit. And I want to be. mention the daisy looks like a portillo's cup okay is this caddy dillon catty dillans where you transform into a gay man where you're an ally to women that means you're gay so that you can say really mean things about i think somebody said diva dill but no i'm not trying to rip it apart i'm just saying that she looks like a portillo's cup oh okay okay so um ben was um shocked about the vitriol and the outflanking he lost this game of risk, okay?

The hatchet was not buried. But we get back to the table and, and Jewel says, I can see you coming out on top. That sounded so wrong. No, it didn't. You fucking idiot? No, it didn't. It just sounded like you were saying,

sorry, I didn't need to go so hard. I don't think he's a fucking idiot. No pun intended. Don't worry. There wasn't one, you idiot. There wasn't one. Don't crowbar, you guys fucking. Okay.

It's just not necessary. I really screwed up that. Batool is not on the show. Betool is not on the show. So we head out to the lagoon. I don't know why we don't come here more often. No, it's beautiful. Why do they go to that fucking,

that vinyl flooring with all those fucking rabid dogs? Why don't they come to this lagoon? It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Probably smells like sulfur and pain, but it's fine. Daisy heads over,

and it's important to note that Daisy is fucking nuked already. And Daisy, You got to give it to her. She's a professional fucking C rat, okay? Daisy can black out and wake up the next day. She's done the thing in her past where she goes,

I'm so hungover. And she's had Chief Stu's go, well, then you shouldn't have fucking blacked out the night before. You got to handle your shit. So Daisy knows. She's seasoned. If she's going to throw one back, she's got to get up and wipe shit off the toilet next morning.

Or tell someone to do it. Or tell somebody to do it. Yeah. And that's hard. And I noticed that. Yes. the drinks were flowing, the speech was a slurin, and forgiveness was an abundance tonight.

Yes, it was. Now, Ben arrives. He starts talking to Ellie. And Ellie says, I knew it. You're a snake. About Joal. About Joal?

She's a fucking snake. Oh, she's Scottish. I've told you so many times. She's a fucking snake. So Ben, chats with Jewell. He goes, hey, what is going on here, man? I thought we were bros. And Joelle says, of course, we're bros. But inside, the subconscious mind says that if Jewel could frame Ben for murder to get in Daisy's pants, he would do so. Okay? That's the kind of guy

Jewel is. I'm going to say something that maybe a lot of... Obviously hyperbolic, but you get what I'm saying. I think, I think Jawal is doing this for more camera time. I think his motives of that insidious. I don't think he's into Daisy at all. I think he thinks if I hook up with her, we got a storyline here, more TV, another season on this show. Yep, good, good for you. And we appreciate it. No, we do.

I appreciate it. Oh, okay. It's another, we need narratives. You need narratives, babe. Okay. So. I would have appreciated him sticking with the bulk of biscuit. Oh, that would have been a lot of fun.

That's what I'm saying, fireworks. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. One of them would have died. probably Jewell. Yeah, I don't think he survived that. She knows how to dodge missiles. Yeah.

Good luck with that one. Yeah. Well, to be fair, Joel, he saw his mother get tied up beat with elephant bone. His mother, not him. I know, but he was tied up as well. Oh. Tomato tomato.

You know, this reminds me a lot of that. There used to be this show on the history channel, I think called Deadliest Warrior or something, where they would do hypothetical battles. Oh, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Between two different types of warriors. Yeah, yeah.

Amazing television show. You used to watch every episode. But as opposed to a ninja fighting a Spartan warrior, this is C-Rat pain dueling off. And I do think, I have to say, while the elephant bone kidnapping and detention is very traumatic, I don't think it outweighs dodging missiles. No way. Balkan conflicts are really... She's got to run like a 440 or... Oh, yeah.

You have to be... so fast because the blast radius we shouldn't talk about it i feel gross right now i feel gross kaelan is this is this bad what's wrong with your microphone okay thank you all right so uh mickey gets hody written on his head and um he's doing this because eddie's up this is my thing about mike we'll get to this later, but when he, he says everybody's so fucking uptight, I agree with him. Okay. Just ignore this fucking annoying bastard. I would, it's fine. I would pretend that he doesn't exist. That's fine, right? The thing, the thing about Mikey that's so annoying is not that he's annoying. He's

annoying. But when pressed about why you're being such a fucking annoying Nat, he reverts to this very earnest justification for why he's doing these. things and it's fucking insane. What was it? Like, I'm doing it because I don't like the heartbreak that you've doled out to my dear friend Eddie and that's why I'm doing it saying. It's like, yet Eddie stands up and says, hey, knock it off. This is my ex-girlfriend, man. You're hurting her feelings. Yeah. And Eddie's really, really busted up about all this stuff. And his, his move is to go and swim in the lagoon, which is a really, really bad move. You're referring to Eddie. Yes. And Alicia's in there.

Alicia's in there too. Alicia who I don't think Alicia gets enough credit for being as big of a nutbag as she is. Okay. We love Alicia. Okay. She's a nutbag, but she's swimming in the lagoon by herself. Then at some point that evening, she's just not anywhere to be found on the boat. No one can find her. Okay. She's, she's off at Foxy Jacks, cooking in the kitchen or something. Nobody knows where she is. But it's a bad idea if you're a sea rat to get blackout drunk and then go in the the lagoon. Now, sea rats are very good at swimming. Okay, they're nautical creatures. But when you've sucked back a couple of margaritas, a lagoon is not your friend. It's very dangerous, okay? Harkens back to the smiley face killer, right? That's right. Well, didn't, yeah, well, the serial

killer killed everybody. That's true. That's true. And then he threw him in the lagoon. It wasn't blacked out Midwesterners rolling down an embankment into a frozen river. Definitely not. No. No, they've never caught. No, it was a serial killer. Yeah, and they've never caught him or her. Little Eileen Warnow's action out in fucking Wisconsin. Hey, it's worth mentioning Ben basically kind of says, you know, all I ever do in my life is attract people that will betray me. When that's your mindset, you need to put down the bottle and hit one of those meetings.

Yeah. Well, Daisy and Jenna Chat, and she's, says um um they're talking about mike and how annoying and annoyed jenna is by mike daisy says to her in a moment of real like sisterhood she says uh the only is you to that because hold on you yeah you got a cigarette and jennas like jenn is like that means the world of me. So Alicia and Eddie. You want to go get a drink?

Yeah, Alicia and Eddie are swimming. Jewel and Daisy chat. Hey, Jewel. Not the night, bud. Not the night to be doing this, right? Because there have been many evenings where she hasn't been, is it Mr. Bill that got flattened out on SNL? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So there have been plenty of nights where she's not Mr. Billed out. on the floor. Maybe not tonight. You go, let's cuddle. Okay? It's a little bit of a She asked. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Probably not. It doesn't matter. You know what? Sea rats are going to sea rat. Okay. You kids do what you're going to do. So we head back. The things they do in that, Gally, man.

Eddie says we need to clean up because J. Mann's going to get pissed off if he sees this. It looks like 50 Jim Belushi's have just, send it upon this fucking galley every time they go out. It's insane. It looks like four hours worth of work. You know when you're like, you're tired, it's the end of the night, maybe you had some friends over and you got all these dishes and the kitchen's a mess. It feels insurmountable. Okay.

Now, we don't drink to the degree, anywhere near the degree of the C Rats drink. I don't know how they clean this stuff up. I truly don't. The resolve on these people is, it's commendable. All right. So Eddie is heartbroken, but thank God he's got Mikey to cheer him up. Oh, my God. The gossipiest little sea rat, these waters have ever seen. Yeah, what does he do? I think he tells Eddie that Ben's trying to have sex with Jeddah.

Yeah. And then Eddie, of course, his heart's broken. But I'm going to tell Eddie, and I think we may talk to him at some point. This is character building. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, you lose any battle. you learn a lesson.

They flanked us here. There was a concave shape. We couldn't contend with it. You were drinking. You should never drink when you're at war? No, it's a bad time. It gives the other team the advantage. And your adversary was also a big drinker.

Think about Michael Jordan coming out for an NBA finals game. He wouldn't be drunk, would he? He often was. He often was, actually, as we learned in that. Not everybody's Michael Jackson. What? No. I told you get what the fuck these girls doing here

Get the fuck out I tell you Okay so Eddie has a good idea He's going to try to go find Alicia And have sex with her But as I mentioned she is not there And we have a couple of punchies fly Eddie is very frustrated

Now Eddie is a sweetheart Not to say the Greek wasn't Right but the Greek is Greek But a lot of tumultuous things going on with that place for quite some time. You have the trists with the Ottoman Empire, of course. Then you have the hemorrhaging economy. What you're talking about now?

Well, you're talking about everything. So that'll lead a young man to punch a cabinet or four. But Eddie, he's just a sweet British boy, little Cadbury cream, right? He palm strikes the bunk a couple of times, throws a t-shirt, and we move on. Yeah. Okay. That's sad. And Palm strikes can be very vicious, has boss.

Rutan is told and taught all of us. And I hope that everyone has at least watched one hour of boss written self-defense training. Have you? Well, I've seen that punch that he teaches where you do it to the nose and you can actually push it into the brain and kill someone. Yes.

That's why I'm saying. The palm strikes are very deadly. All right, let's get to the next day. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, Ben and Jenna are prepping a drink for the jacuzzi. And then that's when Mr. the head of cock blocking standards and practices arrives. Mr. Mikey, boy, could he not, you know what I would do if I was on this boat with him and I was a younger man and not responsible? Punch him in the face? No, better. I get another person. He sounds so gay sometimes, doesn't he? I would tackle him. Yeah. I would duct tie him.

Like we're kidnapping him? Oh, yeah. Seriously. I would duct tie his feet, duct tie his arms so he cannot move. I would put. You mean using duct tape? That's right. Okay. But I'm like, he can't move. He's being kidnapped. I would then put a cloth around his mouth so he can't scream. And then I'd put him in a closet. And I said, we'll see you in an hour. And then we'll see how you feel about life after that. Sure. And then if he tries to rat us out, me and my co-conspirator would lie our asses off and say, you know Mikey, he's a liar. And then I whisper in his ear later, we'll do that again. Mm-hmm. I love it. I mean, I think that's plan A. I don't know what anybody's doing anything else for. My brother used to do it to me all the time when I was a kid.

Look how good I turned out. Yeah. Now, what about the cameras? Hmm. You know, it's a common thing that I think a lot of storytelling in this day and age, I think consciously ignores. But it's like you're watching these things. You're going, how are you getting away with this? I mean, there's security cameras all over the place.

You don't think part of the camera crew would be like, fuck, yeah. I hate them too. You know what? You'd have to do. You'd have to go to the producer. go, I'm going to need you delete all this footage. Okay. I don't know that they would do it, though.

I don't want to engage in this criminality any longer, okay? It's a hypothetical you presented me with. Yeah. What would you do? Punch him in the face? No, better. I would deck tie him, throw him in a closet. All right.

Anyway, he ruins the night. Jenna goes into her bung. The one disregard for Comrade's libido. is fucking disgusting. There's no point in doing this. You're not a friend of Eddie. You're an agent of chaos. And in the little nine square thing,

I would say he would be chaotic evil. I don't think he's chaotic neutral. I think he's malicious. It's a dark, dark thing lurking beneath that helmet head. I would have to say the person that told us he's a great guy never actually worked with him.

It's a good point. Okay. So we head down for the evening and we get a little cuddle between Daisy and Joelle. It's so crazy to me when you see these adults trying to close in bunk beds. It's fucking insane that 37-year-old coxmen are trying to close on the bottom bunk. It's just, it's fun. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. This would be fun once.

What about fun always? Because that's the life of a yachty. So we wake the next morning. Joao didn't sleep because Daisy was blackout. And when you black out, you snore. My roommate dearly departed. He used to do it all the time in our dorm room. I've told the story before.

Well, you put Annie freeze in his OJ. No, I didn't do it. do that. Well, that's not, that's why he's not here anymore. No, that's no. That's not why. And we're not going to get into why. I have respect for the family. But he did pass away. And in those moments where he was snoring on the bottom bunk, I wished he would pass away. I was a young man. But I've told the story before where I tried to warm out on my bed, you know, flip up and down like the warm. I rolled out, fell to the floor, cracked his laptop, and he did not wake up.

that's how deep you can sleep when you're blacked out. A human being can fall six feet onto his shoulder. Scream and pain. Crack your computer. How'd you get him to think that he broke the computer the next morning? I said, I think you broke the computer. He said, oh, what the fuck happened? My screen's cracked.

Oh, you were pretty wasted last night. Okay. Next morning. Next morning. Eddie's pissed. Right? He's so frustrated. He's going all over the boat, kicking little ghosts at his feet.

It's not a good look. Sad to see. But Mikey and Alicia chat. And he wonders why Jen is so pissed off. And he tells Alicia that she should be second stew. And Alicia, who I think was hunting animals in the middle of the night in the forest with her teeth, is back on the boat and ready to go. And despite not having you slept a wink knows,

Okay, shut up. Stop trying to gas me. All right. I was a galley hand before this. I shouldn't be second to. Now, Daisy lets Ellie know about her and Joow's little snuggle the night before. Pat, good move or unnecessary. Well, obviously not necessary.

And I was actually questioning her motives, reasoning behind even sharing this information. Because when I was watching, so I was thinking of you just going, why? why are you having this conversation completely unnecessary? Now, Daisy's pretending that she's not trying to create drama, but this would convince me otherwise. Yep, good job, Daisy. Then we get to Mikey going to Jenna and winding her up even more. And Mikey tells, oh, the sea rats say winding up quite a bit. That's their expression.

Now, Mikey tells Alicia, I think in front of Jenna that Alicia should be the second to again, and this is relayed to Daisy, and she is not thrilled. Okay, she says, don't let, she goes up to Mikey, and she says, you're working until nine. You're going to be working until nine. And Mikey, that little rat fuck says, we'll see

about that. What did you fucking say? To his boss. Now, Daisy over hears this, storm's right back in. She says, you can get the fuck off the boat, and he says, fine. And she says, don't let the purse all hit you on the way out. And I'm sitting here thinking, what the

fuck is that? What the hell is that? What a perisal? For some reason, I thought he was going to weasel his way out of this. Nope. Daisy heads upstairs to see Captain Jason. He says, what are you doing? He goes, I'm just feed my fish.

These ones dead. She says, yeah, yeah, yeah. Enough about that. We can eulogize Ted later. Mikey needs to go. And Jason says, Daisy, I trust you? to his credit. Let's bring him up here. Let's fucking get rid of him.

I always love when one of them gets fired, because they don't do this all the time, but they'll be like, I'll need Jowow to assist you off the boat. That means we really hate you. Yeah, I like it. And if I was Jowow, you know, I would have played with him a little bit more, right?

And I was happy Jowal says to Mikey, can you come back on the boat? Aminous enough, but, you know, somewhere between that and, duck tying him. I think, you know, Oh, sure. He could have done with a little bit more torture. Uh-huh. It's only fitting. He tortured everybody else for so many weeks. Mikey didn't feel, uh, sad enough for my own gratification.

No, he didn't care at all. In fact, he leaves the boat saying, I don't think I did anything wrong. Now, it's important to remember that Ptul's not on the show. No. Okay. She's told of Mike, who's Ptool? She's told of Mikey being fired and she says, uh, I had no idea. And Daisy says, what is your name again? She said, I don't know either. Who am I? Yeah.

What is this place? Now, Mikey has been fired unceremoniously and with a whimper, and we move on to the Prefranchate meeting. Now, Sue Jay and his wife Brenner are coming aboard, both talented boxers. They invite his parents, Vinod and mother. Sujay's father was a doctor who inspired him to be a doctor. Literally no fucking way. You got to give it to the Indians, man. You're going to be a fucking doctor.

Should we cut it? No. Do you think it's okay? Nope. It's fine. It's fine. And also, I'll add to that, call me crazy. But I don't think they'll be at the end of this charter gifting any cock rings to the captain.

You know what I mean? Or leave a shower drain stuffed with Duky. No, they seem like extremely nice people, lovely people. Now, Daisy and Jewel and Jenna head up to the coups, right? They're talking, they're sucking down wine, right? And Daisy leaves Joanna and Jeanne what's up there in the hot tub together. Now, like you, I really did not understand the outrage. people were watching them on the closed circuit and like, I can't believe what's happening. What the fuck is happening?

They're sitting in the jacuzzi talking to each other. It's not a big deal. Yeah. And everybody's watching on the monitor. Well, later on when the Balkan Biscuit just lies her frigging ass off. Bulkin Biscuit. Come on now. What's going on?

Balkin Bid. You know, I have to say, there's a lot of paranoia creeping into the C rats this episode. People all over the place, whether it's Ben, whether it's Ellie, whether it's Eddie, whether it's Jawow, Daisy, they all seem to think that there is a squadron of people aimed, you know, at them. And it's, it's, I got to say it's marvelous television. The sea rats are losing their fucking minds. They are. In that jacuzzi, by the way, Jawow offers Jenna some advice. He tells her, hey, look, it's okay to screw over Eddie to pursue Ben. But just, just do it with respect, which is rich coming from him.

many girls has he bedded on this show? I think it's at least six. And he's never been kind about it. Look what he did with Zarina last season. Do as I say, not as I do. Yeah, right. So Ellie recounts... Well, this is when Ben gets a little jealous,

and he joins the two, and he acts really weird. Yeah, he goes up, but he flops his little belly down in front of them. And, yeah, acts, like you said, Willie Wheel. Now, Ellie recounts this story to Alicia. Jenna being an evil snake. And Ellie's really getting into the fucking mud this episode. She tells Alicia that Jowow and Jenna were all over one another, not true at all,

and then tells her that Jenna has been coming into the bunk and bad-mouthing Alicia. Not really true either. It's just sea rat shit. you're all in a pressure cooker together. Alicia is a nut job who was making cheesecake with salt six weeks ago. And so there's going to be a little talk about how she doesn't know what she's doing. This was all kind of manufactured by Ellie.

Yeah. Oh, go ahead. No, go ahead. Well, I was going to say, then Jenna and Joe, I guess their chat is over. And then Ben and J.W. have a short chat before bed. and then Ben, Ben seems like he's trying to see where Jowal's head was. You said J.W?

Yeah, I say J.W sometimes. Jewel. J. Dub. I feel like I know him, you know. Yeah. Anyway. Ben and him squash the beat. You've never called him that.

I haven't. No. J.W. J. Hey, pal. I'm around my girlfriend. You know. Hey, pal.

Hey, bud. All right. Let's get to the. That's good. The next morning. Oh, yeah, the next morning. Yeah, what's going on, dude? The vicious rumors have taken root,

and Alicia is not herself. Okay. Now, there's a meeting with the interior. They're a man down, quite literally. Eddie is dearly departed, and Daisy picks up on Alicia not being herself. He says, what's going on? Alicia says, well, there's been this vicious rumors

swirling around the boat. about that both of you were incessantly talking about me behind my back. I love how Daisy's like, she's like, Sherlock Holmes, she's like, hmm, I think I know who's behind this. Yeah. Yeah, now she gets Ellie, but it does remind me of, you know, I love Pete Holmes. Oh, yeah, the comedian? Yeah, I love Pete Holmes.

Pete Holmes is a great series or did a great series. Obviously, everybody knows the Batman series where he can't kill people, but he kills them brutally. And it's just confused about what death is. Because he's an idiot. It's a great iteration of Batman. Honestly, one of my favorites. But it is this other series of Bad Sherlock Holmes

where he says, Your brother has a drinking problem. I saw the scratch marks on the charging port of his phone. Looks like somebody with shaky hands. Somebody who can't quite fit the plug. in the phone. Have I gotten that correct? The person goes, no, it's just hard to get it in there sometimes.

It's just naturally. You kind of miss it sometimes. But that's not Daisy. She knows exactly who it is. And it is Ellie. Now, we have a situation. Somebody's coming aboard this vessel, so we're going to

need to do a little Scooby-Doo hallway with the Sea Rats and their living quarters. Pat, do you want to break down who's going where. Well, I'll say this. I'm not 100% sure, but the most important move is Daisy and Jawal

will now be bunking with each other to accommodate a female stew that will be joining us. Yes. A rather drastic measure to isolate and neutralize the bulk and biscuit. Well played.

Well played. Now, I should say there's one of the coupling that the Sea Rats note, and that is Ben shacking up with it. Eddie. Eddie. Oh, yeah. You know, Ben pulls out the black card at random times and not good times, right?

When Ellie's calling him a little bitch and saying, oh, your mommy cut your balls off when you were a little boy. That's when you got to go, hey, actually, I've been on this show for a long time. I outrank you, so please don't speak to me like that. This is one of those moments where if I was Ben, I'd go, no, I'm not fucking, I'm not staying in the same bedroom as that guy. Absolutely not. I want to bang Jenna. If I go back to my bunk, I can't do that. You're not doing this to me.

I've been on the show longer than anybody. Absolutely not go back to the drawing board. What are you doing? It's leaning over and taking it. It's crazy. Jewel says I'm excited. I'm nervous. I'm anxious.

I'm excited. I already said I'm excited. I'm so excited. Jewel. All right. So Ellie says, I can't believe that Daisy and Jewel are doing it. It's almost like they're targeting me.

And again, this vicious bout of paranoia. She might be right on this one. Honestly, I need a couple of guests at this point. Okay, we've been in the heads of the sea rats for many episodes. And that's not a pretty place to me. It's starting to feel like C rat interrupted and I don't like it. Okay, so we have this Daisy overhearing Ellie and Ben and thereby injecting paranoia in Daisy. Now, Daisy's got her antenna up and she's about to go to war.

The tensions are really ratcheting up here. Now Eddie says to Ellie, oh, wow, you're taking your pillows. Yeah. I'm taking my pillows. Who's not taking their pillows? One, I don't want to subject the next person to the liquid warmth that has crept out of me onto my pillows. And I also don't want to be subject to whatever you've been doing with your. Pillows are a very intimate thing, okay?

There's stains all over the place. Yeah, I'm taking my own pillows. I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'd rather work at a place where they sell porn DVDs still and allow people to jerk off while they watch them and have to clean up after them. Them be a sea rat? Yes.

Because it's funny to see the kind of rose hue die because you used to have a dream of being a C rat. Well, when I was younger, do it for a year. You can't do this past 30. No, don't gaslight me, Mama. Many, like, I would say a season and a half ago, you said, I'm going to talk to my wife about getting out of here. I want to be a C-Rat for a little bit.

Yeah, one season. I mean, come on. So which one is it? Would you rather work at a place where people come on the floor, or would you rather be a C-Rat for a season? Well, my wife said I can't go. Okay, so it's going to be the... Well, I can't get in a time machine, Dylan.

Uh-huh. Okay. So is this good? Is this an okay episode? I think it's fine. All right. Michael Jackson's stuff was gold. Oh, yeah.

God. New. That was my favorite thing about it. We've never done anything like that. No, no. It's the fresh. The fans are really going to get a kick out of that. All right.

Dinner time. The guests are on their way. Alicia's dropping cherries and Joaz awkwardly chuckling at Daisy and a towel. Now the guests arrived when we learn a little, I don't know what you would call it. Would you call it guest rat history? We learned that a woman was trapped in an elevator and fell many floors. Who gives a shit? Well, that's what the rest of the party thought,

which broke my heart for her because here she is telling this harrowing tale of her being trapped in an elevator, falling like she's in fucking diehard. And the rest of the party is just like, Eleanor, shut the fuck up. Well, they didn't sound like that. No, but in their heads they were thinking that. All right. So speaking of Sierra history, Alicia loves her grandmother. that rank on the C rat sad scale?

Zero. It's not a zero. Is she dead? No. She's alive. Minus five points. Yeah, okay. So we're going to be doing 80s.

Daisy Radio's up. We're doing 80s. Now, Ellie is getting ready for dinner. She tells Ben. You know, I'm really proud of myself. Really feeling good about this whole thing. I've really let go of so many things that I would I've just held on to in the past.

Cut to six hours beforehand, where she is tiptoeing around the boat, exclaiming that people are evil, and they're out to get them. Ben's like, God damn it. I think she'd cook a pet rabbit if JW own one. Yeah. Hey, what's up, JW? J.W. Hey, J-DUves.

So, it's a little odd. You know, we cut to Ben. He goes, it's pretty obvious that Ellie is still obsessed with Jewel. No shit. So Ben is horrified of her, and rightly so. Let's get to the shrimp cocktail incident. Daisy is helping with the first course in the kitchen, which is kind of an odd one.

I'm not sure if they just don't show it normally or if she's decided. They do it. They help with the plating all the time. Okay, this night that she's going to help, but she's helping adorn the rim of the glass with, The dead sea bugs. The curled remnants of a life lived at the bottom of the ocean. Ugh.

Oh, God. You know, I love a shrimp cocktail, but this shrimp cocktail was an absolute disaster. Oh. We'll get to it. But first, Ellie has to attempt once again to mark the bowl of piss that is this galley with her own scent. She says, I got this. Daisy says it's okay I can help

and Ellie grows impatient with Daisy's technique you know Ellie is a seasoned cook at this point she knows how to put the dead body of a sea insect

on the room of a glass Daisy does not so she says essentially get the fuck out of here and she takes the shrimp out of her hands And Daisy says, I can't believe that. I would never, ever grab shrimp out of somebody's hand. I would never do it.

I would never do that. I never did that tonight. I've never done that to sell it. So the guests, who does that? Who takes shrimp out of somebody's hand? The guests love it. But there is, I was confused about this preparation of shrimp cocktail. There seems to be no cocktail sauce anywhere in the vicinity.

First off, I hate this already. Yeah. It's bearable if you have the cocktails. If it's a really good quality cold plump shrimp with a nice strong horseradish forward cocktail sauce, it's absolutely delicious. But there's a big spectrum of shrimp cocktail. I mean, go to old Vegas. You can get shrimp cocktail for 75 cents there.

You'll die after eating it. Oh, your asshole. The shit string is still very much attached. Sorry, did you devane these? No. You paid 75 cents for 15 of them. You think we're devaining them? Welcome to the golden nugget.

All right. So, we've got a strip steak with Bernays and a potato leonets or something like that. It was a classic dinner, 80s. It was Dorsia. It was 67 pots. Now, Daisy gets some more info from Alicia that Ellie was the person that relayed that deceitful rumor about Jenna and her. And Daisy heads downstairs knowing that Ellie is now her enemy.

And they have a little standoff. We end there. The good, the bad, and the sea rats. We don't end there. Ellie is very... Oh. Ellie switches into a gear that we haven't seen her switch into, which was a very manipulative kind of...

I just grabbed the shrimp. I didn't realize that that would upset. I was just trying to rush. This was a little red riding good. She goes, what's the problem? You know, I don't know why you're getting so upset about this. It was just shrimp that I took out of your hand because you... Here's the thing.

Yeah. If you're trying to get her whacked, by hot pants Jason up there. Yeah. This one ain't going to stick. She's got plausible deniability. We were in a rush, captain. I grabbed the shrimp out of her fingers.

And Daisy would go, who does that? I understand. Yeah. How it looked. But where she can get her is the lying trying to... The back channeling. The back channeling. So we'll see.

I mean, we've had a lot of turnover in seasons past. We've already seen two depart. Maybe we'll have a third. Who knows? Get in the comments. Let us know what you thought of the episode. Join us to patreon.com slash another podcast network for Summerhouse and Rhode Island. We love you very much. I'm Dylan saying goodbye. Pat say goodbye. There it is.