Another Below Deck Podcast - The Long Lost Below Deck S1 Finale w/ Sam and Kat

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Dylan and Pat break down the season finale of episode one and talk to Sam and Kat about Sam being a rocket scientist, crystals, cults, reception, terms of endearment and more.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

Can you guys hear me? Yeah. We can hear great. We can hear you. Can you guys hear me? We can hear you, great cat. Okay. Okay.

You can hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. We have done it. Despite all of the behavioral and technological hurdles that come with getting C-Rets on show we have done it um we are here with none other than cat and sam from season one of below deck ladies thank you so much for joining us no thanks for having us now scyrap well that's it's a term of endearment beautiful friend the end my only friend the end i think we're going to do the reunions though too right maybe i watched a little bit of the beginning and uh it's one of the it's a pretty

hilarious moment because it has them all like sitting like they're on bleachers with each other and then andy's on the other side yeah and he's like Hey, and this is Andy. He's like, C.J., recently, there's been an arrest by you for domestic violence. Do you want to? And then C.J.'s like, hey, I'm really glad you brought that up. I'm really glad you brought that up because I've been wanting to talk about that and, you know, kind of explain. She was being a massive bitch, so I did. I hit her in the neck. Like, yeah, you're really happy he brought that up. I love that. I love that the show got a lot. reunion when no one was watching it. And now that it's like in the top five shows on

Bravo, we're doing Zoom reunions. That's cool. I think that makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of things that changed as a result of the COVID thing. And one of those was a good thing is, well, we in Los Angeles now have restaurants that have extra seating because the tables go out. It's like we're fucking Paris now, right? That's a good thing. And they're going to let restaurants continue to do that. Kind of. But you don't want to be like, don't put me. at one of them. I don't want to sit there, but it's nice that they're there with people who are at me. Yeah. But one of the bad things that came out of that is Andy got to have an excuse not to have to be near Sea Rats. Yeah. And we understand that. But better than most people. And now that the COVID protocols and whatnot are not anymore, he still remains vigilant about not having sea rats next to him. Yeah. So. But that's a sad thing for us. Want to break down this last episode?

Yeah, let's do it because today is a crazy day. We are going to be breaking down this last episode, which didn't have a lot. So we'll probably break that down in 20 minutes. And then we'll do a 20 minute interview with Sam and Kat, these two sea rats. We actually have gotten on the horn. It's pretty crazy that it's going to be happening. Though I would still call it a coin flip, not a concave one. this is just a straight fair coin that we're going to flip up in the air. Who knows they might

get on in 30 minutes? Who knows? I'm on the edge of my seat. I will promise the audience this. Though it has been a long time in people change and I don't care about what these people have done with their lives on the show or since, I will stir up some anger and ask some hard-hitting questions, okay? I promise you that. That's our job. But season finale of season one of below Jack thought it was a horrible episode. These people are just insane. They're all insane. They're too rookie.

Like, you need a good blend. I'm so happy the show is where it's at now because we have a good blend of people who are actually good at their jobs, pretty people, and sorry. But, sorry, I'm not. There's good looking people on this. horse good looking people on the show. Kat and Sam are good looking people. But Adrian's attractive. I don't even know why you said that. Don't know why I

said that. That was a gross thing to say. I mean, Jermay private school girl, though. And like, I mean, we have like models on the show. Now we do, yes. One of them's posing for Playboy as we speak. Sure. Yeah, she's doing it right now. But there's competency now. It's not just a bunch of runaway drunks. That's what this show was in the beginning. And the career professionals were the boring kind. They weren't the Frasers. They had no... Porcupine head. He's a professional. Yeah,

the porcupine head is just a calmer version of Lee. You know what I mean? So, listen, the first season was fun. It was an origin story, but the Hobbit is not as good as Lord of the Rings. And that's what we saw this season. A bunch of fucking hobbits running around a boat. And Lee stepping in is the smog of the entire thing just hoarding his treasure gross gross stuff fun season 12 pots well i have to say this uh i enjoyed this last episode uh cj jumping on that catamaran it's headed up to new york that was crazy adrian acting like a chaperone uh and finding her inner lesbian uh with the paying charter guest and then lee acting like uh telling a dog to go poo was the end of the goddamn world god damn make poop already.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I enjoyed myself with this journey. And if we're still in the air with that coin flip, the coin is still twisting in front of my eyes. We may conclude this recap of season one of Below Deck in an epic fashion with both Kate Kat and Sam. All right. How many pots? Twenty-two. So we begin with an infuriating conversation between two idiots, Sam and C. Sam and C.J. were drinking on charter. I know we haven't done this episode in a while, but to just

remind you, Sam and C.J. were in the ocean drinking on charter. And Lee wants to fire them because of it. Now, Porcupine head steps in and says, I got a better idea. Let's take part of their tip away and let's give them an option. You can take this reduced tip and stay on the boat.

Or you can take the full tip and hear your walking papers. Sam and C.J. are disgusted by this. As they should be, Dylan, because it is a very, very, very, very illegal ultimatum. I don't think it's that illegal. You got a real stick up your pussy about this whole thing. It's just ridiculous.

Well, because I've been sued as an employer. Yeah. You can't, you know, you have to pay people what they earned during their shift. I'm sorry I said stick up the pussy. You said that? Yeah, I didn't mean to say that. don't worry about it. It's just like... So what they did here is definitely illegal.

Of course, I think they're in the Caribbean. Who knows maritime law doesn't apply? I don't know. It's just... Well, we do it. It's maritime law. It does not apply to anything. And also, this is the service industry.

Anything goes in the service industry. You can shoot fucking black meat in your veins in the back if you want to. And you can fuck your coworkers. Now, take that and put it in international waters. I'm completely fine with this ultimatum. Okay, fair enough. But there are a few things mentioned in the heat of the moment. And CJ makes two great points upon this very, very, very illegal ultimatum.

We are all alcoholics and we numb our pain with booze on charter. Sure. Yeah. That's a great point. And he's a fucking asshole. He started all this. And it's true. Shit rolls downhill in management.

It starts with Lee. He sucked as a manager. This is the kind of boat he's running. And this is why all these sea rats are behaving this way. I believe the quote is the reason there's more, this boat has more turnover than a bad restaurant is because of Lee end quote um well i think they're uh you know 100% right but they're also a petulant little group of shits um luckily we storm outside after eddie goes take my two hundred dollars we got a job to do we're got a job to do man

i'm not fucking around two hundred dollars man eddie is is so annoying here and we'll be more annoying in later seasons now. He's just a very discreddled, angry tugboat fisherman who's pissed that Bravo won't hire him anymore. But we go outside. Well, I want to say this about CJ. You ever, he just looks like a drunk. Oh, yeah. You ever walk by someone in the street and you're like, that person's a drunk? Their face looks like they abuse alcohol. Well, this is why I loathe beach towns so much, because you walk around, be at Manhattan Beach or San Diego, and you see these flip-flop wearing Corona suck and drunks all over the place. And it's like you like light beer, cigarettes, donkey sauce,

and hitting your domestic partner. That's your idea of a fun Saturday, you know. CJ, you can see this guy from a mile away. His veins are filled with the phone. of the beer of La Familia. But we go outside and we meet a kind of shamanic type character. Greg from the Manson family. Yeah. Now, Joseph Campbell spoke of how when a hero embarks in a new chapter, they're often met by a guide. If that person is not there, it becomes a horror film because the protagonist

has to endure a change by themselves. But luckily, this is not a horror. This is a tale as oldest time. Our hero, the drunk domestic abuser, C.J. walks out onto the dock and he is met by a man named Greg, aka the guy from the Manson family. This is the best sea rat thing ever done. Yeah. Amen. We're leaving. We're heading up to New Jersey. We bring this catamaran up to some rich guy's place, man. Yeah. We need a new crew member. Yeah. You want to join Sam? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Like I promise, the five guys on this boat are not going to try to have sex with you. She's like,

I think you are. I'm going to say no. CJ's like, you guys can fuck me if you want. No, but the CJ, of course, says yes.

But this was a very like, um, Great Plains kind of Cormac McCarthy moment where like, the guy's just like, yeah, I'll join you. I'll join you troop.

And they go off, you know, they race horses or something. So, yeah, it was. It's kind of very cinematic because it's like,

Yeah, very cinematic. Strapped with a hefty garbage bag and a free spirit. C.J. begins, goes back to the boat to collect his shit. He is unbridled. And he's going through the guts of the boat and Ben's like, well, what's going on, darling? And C.J's like, I'm out of here, man. And I know we're best friends.

We always will be. But I got to stuff this garbage bag full of shit and I'm out of here. I always love the sea rats think that. Look, man, we're best friends, bro. will always be that right i don't think these two ever spoke no ben goes you're on facebook right yeah i'm sure they're at each other's houses over on the weekend yeah uh all right so uh he's a drifter and that's just what's going to happen with drifters i just i fucking love it this this movie was two parts the first half was this epic exit of a our hero and the second was

Rooney Mara falling in love with Kate Blanchett and finding out that she is a lesbian. She loves women with schnauzers. Yeah. Well, Sam joins CJ for his last moments while he packs. She doesn't attempt to dissuade him from jumping on a boat with complete strangers headed to Rhode Island. And he gives her with a shirt. Yeah.

And Kat gifts CJ with a tit, a flash of one tit as he is sailing to Rhode Island. Crazy enough, that boat actually sank. C.J. swam a Diana Nyad distance to get to shore and almost died. You know, Dylan, when Cat did show her boob in a

sort of salute of the departing CJ, there wasn't a dry sea rat in that dock. No. You know, it was so beautiful to the artist expose her drunken tits. It was very moving. Yeah. So Sam is

back on the boat. She says, I want all my money. You know, honestly, like, I don't know how nasty I'm going to get with Sam, but I'm, you're not a rocket scientist. Like, I'm not going to be gaslit into thinking that you're a rocket scientist anymore. I'm done. I don't think I'm going to go there, but. Oh, don't do that. No, I'm not going to do that. Because I'll tell you, Del, we can't be mean to sea rats because other sea rats.

to us and they'll be like, you know, say we get to season four of med or something, whereas we work our way up through the chronology. We try to bag the white whale Rocky. Exactly. She's going to go, hey, heard all the shit talking you were doing. No fucking way. Got to be nice to see rats still it. Got to be nice.

Anyway. So she goes, I want all my money. And all the money that she wants is $200. Which I understand. That's a lot of money. I think it's the principal. Discible, Dylan. No, I think it's the money.

But Porcupine head does something really, really uncool here, I thought. Him and Adrian are a unified front. They are the Germany and Japan of this axis of evil here. And in come Sam and alliances are cut immediately.

I don't understand why porcupine kowtowed to this whiny little child. Well, perhaps because it was very, very, very illegal to withhold someone's pay for work that they'd already done. You know what? I don't know why you have to be all. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say the work. You go in and you write a report saying you were drinking on charter and if you do it again, you're fired. Or you're fired for it and here's your pay. What you don't do is the slap on the wrist. I'm going to hurt you financially. I think they should have just fired her. Or if they wanted to dangle this ultimatum in front of her, they'd

needed to be unified. But what Alex does is go, listen. I like your moxie. We're going to give you the full 500. And all of a sudden, Alex, aka a porcupine head, becomes the head of this boat. Lee is off masturbating to untold horrors. Sam, during him doing whatever hell, he's a drunk, as we know. Sam feels victorious at this moment.

Oh, yeah. Having won this bout. Yeah, absolutely. as she should be. Can I do it meanwhile? Yeah. Meanwhile, plans for the night are being made. Of course, there's still charter cats here, right?

Yeah. Adrian makes the decision. Everyone is staying on the boat and they are ordering Thai food. Chef Ben takes issue with the decree and basically tells Adrian, you can stuff it. Sorry, love. I outrank you. Sorry, love. Did you hire me, love?

Fuck you. And nobody goes out. Nobody goes out. Nobody goes out. So Kat apologizes to Adrian. about how she's been awful. And boozing, and she's hoping to be a better person. Dave, evidently, has a horse cock.

Yes. Which that's... You need that in porn, Del. Yeah, you need it in porn. I don't know that you need it in life. I mean, listen, I would like if my penis was a little bit bigger, you know, I would like it to be not kind of accursedly tiny the way that it is. Oh, come on, man, you're Irish.

But I don't want a horsecock. Yeah. There's somewhere in the middle. And that's probably where most like homegrown porn is. And I'm very happy. All I'm asking for is three and a half inches. I don't want to be two and a half inches anymore. You know, it's too small.

So no one goes out. We have a preference sheet chat. Yes. We learned Ben is going to be meetings. No, not at that point. No. We learned Ben is going to be making food for a fucking dog. He's going to be cooking for vegans. He's going to be cooking for a dog. The guests come aboard. They have a schnauzzi. My favorite dog of all time. My tattoo on my left arm is of a schnauzzi. And I love that they didn't clip the schnauzzi's years either. They're beautiful people aboard this festival. Was your schnauzzi named Compass as well? No, but I love that name for a dog. It doesn't lend itself to nicknames.

Compy? comfy? Yeah, I can feel that. Anything that ends in an E. Cumpy. I.E. My dog's Jackie. My first dog was rocky. Yeah. My other dog was spotty. Always ends in E. I.E. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Because Jack with an E at the end is not Jackie. I guess it kind of is, but not really. Could be. Could be. It has to be I.E or E. Y. Or just why. Right. You can't just have E, though.

Because it's so often silent at the end of the word, you know? Mm-hmm. It's a good point. You know, time. You don't say time, timey. Timey. If I, if it was my dog, call them timey.

So the lesbians, um, they're so nice. So positive. It's so refreshing with all the negativity that's been, uh, this whole, this whole boat has been fraught with. for a number of weeks in filming.

It's so nice and a refreshing change. So nice that Adrian changes in her to her shorty shorts. Yeah. Yeah. Adrian is getting manna from these lesbos. She is drinking in their homosexual spirit. And she's unveiling those beautiful, long white flamingo legs of hers. Is that gross?

Not at all. She has nice legs. Yep. The dinner table is set. Adrian is going to be going to out with the Lesbos to chaperone them. Now, Adrian is being very inappropriate for below deck. Not for below deck in 2013. Below deck now.

Below deck now. You're not supposed to hook up with passengers or guests and you're also not supposed to socialize and hang out with them. And Adrian is a nutbag, right? I mean, just a certified nutbag to have brought this. dress at all is insane. You're a nutbag if you do that. Then to run around this boat with this manic sexually repressed energy, telling people to make lemon drop shots and coming down from the sun deck to deliver them, she's lost her marbles.

Great TV, though. Is it Deccan Dave noting that Adrian has a feminine grace and thus deducing she's a power bottom? Yeah. That's nice. And he sees that when they go out. And while they're out, Compass has to go poop poop. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Pat, you had an issue with this. Yeah.

Go poop. I got bigger things they do. Yeah. I got a bottle of carty shark in my room. Yeah. It sucks. Yeah. But listen.

You know what I think Lee was doing? Lee didn't go to Pornhub for a long time. because he was afraid of the cookies. Ah, my grandson told me about the cookies. But then when he found out that we got a Mac and he wasn't getting any viruses, he was unreachable. Just feverishly.

We got to take a break to talk to these two C-Rats. We'll wrap up the episode at the end of this interview. can you guys hear me yeah we can hear great we can hear you can you guys hear me we can hear you we can hear you great cat okay okay you can hear me yeah we can hear you um we have done it despite all of the behavioral and technological hurdles that come with getting sea rats on the show. We have done it. We are here with none other than Kat and Sam from season one of Below Deck. Ladies, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having us. Now, Cat, CRA. Well, that's, it's a term of endearment. Kind of, yeah, but that's what we call

everybody who's on the show. We call all of you guys C rats. Right. Yeah. Now, Kat made it to see. It's, It's a term of endearment. Cat made it to season two. Yeah. Okay? And I watched that season real time back in 2014. Don't remember it that well, but I remember, I guess we'll just get into it. All right.

So the origin of season one, we've spoken with Sam already about it. We've talked to Adrian about it and kind of recollections of how the show all came together and those experiences. Yeah, Adrian was the producer of the show. And if you guys have anything to say about that history, We can get into that. But Adrian is the reason we have below deck, according to Adrian. Right.

But we don't know how Kat got on the show. Wait. Sorry. What was that? I'm pretty sure that was not the producer's name. It was not Adrian Gang. It's her first story. We'll give it to us.

Okay. Wow. It just, you know, just people not getting along. It just never stops. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Kat, how did you end up on the show? How did you end up on below-deck season one? Okay, so I wanted to be a film producer, and I didn't have the confidence to do it after I graduated college.

So I had applied, you know, to be on a TV show. I had no idea other than it was going to be about boating. Yeah. And then they called me two days ahead of time, and they said, hey, listen, the girl we picked, bailed, so can you do it? So I just showed up drunk. Yeah. That's what happened. Right.

And everyone else had like six months and they were going to the gym and working on their British accent or lack of and, you know, getting in shape. I could look good. All you showed up was like, hey, had no idea what was going on. Kat, you looked lovely, okay? And you were a hoot the entire time. We're going to get into the, you know, the pills and the drinking and all that fun stuff. Captain Lee being a dick. Yeah, Adrian being, you know, Adrian.

So I just want to ask this. Were you guys communicating season one raps? You do the reunion. The show's a huge hit. But obviously, Kat, you were the only person asked back for season two. Were you communicating with Sam and Adrian? Were there intercommunications prior leading up to that? No.

No, I mean, it's yachting. So, like, everyone, you know, once you're done with the season or you go, you leave a boat, you move on and you go to the next one. Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, as CJ told Ben, we're going to be best friends for life. Sam, why do you think that you were not asked back? Did you not want to be back on the show?

Did you tell them to go fuck themselves? I don't want to do this anymore. What happened with that? I don't know. To be honest, I did not tell them to go fuck themselves. I just wasn't invited. I don't know. I think that I mean, if I'm being

fully candid, I feel like they got everything out of me that they wanted to. Yeah. Like, they juiced me for the tragedy with my sister, and I kind of, like, was an open book when I was out there. There was no like developing my

character any further. You know what I mean? Like, I kind of I left it all on the table in season one. Sure. I don't think they really had some like story storylines in mind for me in subsequent seasons. Can I tell you as a... Got it. Sorry. Can I tell you as a viewer?

I watched it the summer of 2013, fell in love with the show, and was kind of taken back season two when the cast members that I remembered weren't back. It was really confusing for me. Kat, was it a different filming experience in season two because you guys had figured out

a lot of things after season one and I'd heard, I think you guys had shared that season was shot like a year and a half earlier. You'd almost forgotten about it and then it airs and how they all cut it together. Was shooting season two a lot different than season one?

Oh yeah, it was completely different. Like season one, I didn't really know what I was getting into and you had the first time of having a camera in your face. which was really awkward and made it comfortably uncomfortable. It was weird. And then season two, I was kind of knew what I was kind of getting into.

And I kept my mouth shut. Like, I should have said more, but I should have been more of myself, which was kind of a disadvantage. Well, so at the end of season one, you two had very different and divergent ways that you dealt. with Adrian. Kat, you apologize to Adrian and kind of mended things as best as you possibly could. Where did you leave off with Adrienne at the end of that season?

And was she the worst person you've either met and or worked under in your entire life? Wow. Okay. To be honest, it was so long ago. I don't remember how everything ended. Yeah. I mean you would think I would you know we were doing something big and it was all kind of but I think we all kind of just went our own ways we were so tired and exhausted we were ready

to go home we didn't want to deal with it so that was probably how it ended right I don't even think I said goodbye right and then what was the second part of that question is she the worst person you've ever met or and or worked under unfortunately she was she was really bad to work under especially when there's a camera on your face I didn't know what to do I wanted to I didn't get to do the things I probably would have done. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, let me just pinball that over to Sam.

Sam, and I say this lovingly, but while Adrian was pretty bad, I couldn't imagine having to manage you either. You guys were both just so vicious to one another. And at the end of the season, you know, me and Pat have been feuding about this whole, I don't know if you remember, but the ultimatum given to you by porcupine head, aka Alex, at the end of the season. Why were you so, I guess, pissed off that you were given this ultimatum after you'd been caught boozing in the ocean in the middle of a work shift? Sam? What was the ultimatum?

I'll remind you. And by the way, I'll tell you why you should have a problem with it. And you, you and CJ both should have had issue with it because it's illegal. Your bosses can't take your pay away for work that you've already performed to punish you. That's illegal. But Dylan wanted to know what was going through your head, given that ultimatum by porcupine head. I mean, I guess what you said. It's bullshit. It felt very, it felt very unjust.

And furthermore, it was like, it was kind of that thing where like, listen, I knew I wasn't going to get kicked off the show because they weren't technically the boss of me. The boss of me was the production company. The production companies, who's the people who were actually paying us, right, be there. And then we got the tips. So I knew they weren't going to let me leave. So I was kind of indifferent. I was like, say whatever you want to say for the cameras to make this seem like you're giving me an ultimatum. But I know I'm not leaving.

Oh, okay. That's a nice little juicy nugget. Yeah, that explains a lot because I was blown away that you were as confident as you were having been boozing in the middle of the ocean on a work shift. I was like, how could she have so much confidence? Because she's clearly made such an egregious error. Well, Sam probably thought I'll get written up for this and that will be the end of it. You can't take my money away. Yeah. All right. And the production company was like, do it, do it, do it, do it. Right, right. Okay. That makes sense. a lot of sense. So let's get to, Dylan and I call it maritime law, which is a thing of rules that

don't exist because they were written with an invisible ink. So basically anything goes on these boats. It's been shown quite a bit exhibited in the series of below deck that things that you wouldn't get away with on land, like for example, how people fire each other, dropping end bombs and that being okay, threatening to not give someone their full wages that they've already worked for. Is that real in the actual yachting industry where it feels like there's no rules and regulations? Sammy, you want to go? No, Kat. Oh, Sammy, you should be really working voting.

I guess I'll take this one then. It absolutely is because it's essentially a completely different environment. You work where you live. So you just got to do it. I mean, I don't know. What you do at your home is almost, you know, there's got to be a, a lot more lenient anyway. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense?

Well, you know, generally you get in trouble as a supervisor, the i.e. bose and having sex with someone that's working just under you as your employee, you'd probably be fired if you worked at some tech company for that behavior. But for some reason, it's, yeah, we operate a lot differently. In good and bad ways, I guess you want to be able to go out and rip it up with your supervisor on a night out. But at the same time, your supervisor, when you report to them, you're being sexually harassed, doesn't get to make the call that he's probably not going to do anything about it. That's, you know, it's a double-edged sword. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's tricky, I got to say. And that's why it's probably, you know, it's not really for everybody because it really depends on per boat, per crew. And, you know, what's really going on? I don't know. Dill, do you mind if we get to some listener questions? Yeah, let's get to some listener questions. So first off, I want to ask, I think, Sam, you don't watch the show. Kat, do you currently watch the show?

I'm not up to date with it, no. You don't. And Sam, you don't watch the show. And that's unfortunate, but no, I'm not up to date. You're not up to date. You know, I've said this already on our various recaps of this season. The way that it was filmed that season one, there's something really special about it. and I really loved re-watching it.

And, you know, you guys have to think of yourselves as you kind of, because if that season was a dud, Bravo wouldn't have this juggernaut that they do now with like four different versions of it. It really began with you guys. Do you ever think about it that as part of your life or do you just, I don't know, where are you at with being on the show now? cat sammy you want to go oh um i mean i mean yeah we're yeah we're gonna have to say sam sorry answer this question yeah sam what are your thought where do you stand with

being on this show 10 years ago now i don't know y'all it's so it's it's such a thing of the past like it almost feels like a different lifetime i don't does i it's something i think about it's not something i harp on like y'all asked me before we started about um you know the reruns that are airing to this day and not getting paid for those and like am i trying to pursue you know payments for that it's just y'all it's so a thing in the past like i've got this whole new life i've got this whole new career i've got you know i'm married with kids i there's nothing that i need to worry about or think about or concerned myself with like it's just it's just so long ago great great great yeah no that's great

it sounds like it's in your it's in your rearview mirror which i i think is a healthy way to look at it it's just some generally things that you started don't exist this long in the ether and are on television shows that run reruns of your images and what you did 10 years ago it's just it for me it's just a fascinating kind of thing. Kat, how do you feel about it? Yeah, you know, when they filmed that show, when we did season one, production had never even been on a boat. They had no clue what they were doing. And it was, you know, obvious to us. And, you know, we didn't know when if, we didn't even know if it would air, per se. We weren't sure what was going on. And then so a year and a half goes by, we're like, fuck, okay, it's going to be on. It's going to air.

No clue what's going to happen. You know, a year and a half is a long time. And we were completely all fucked on the contract. That was their, you know, thing. They fucked everybody. How do you mean you were fucked on the contract? No, there was, you were not getting any, you know, royalties. You weren't getting a pay raise.

If you did, it was going to be like a pissed percentage for the next time if you did come back. And that was valid for like years. Right. Like, and everyone would just signed it. Nobody really knew what they were doing. There was no book on how. to be a film or reality TV show and get what you want. You know, we didn't know.

Yeah. They didn't. And so there were, like, I remember looking at the contract and having an attorney friend of mine look over it. And he was like, yeah, like, I would change this, this and this and ask for XYZ. And so I went back to the production company and did what he recommended. And they were like, okay, no, we'll just find somebody else. Like, you take it as it is or you.

And so I heard there was no negotiation. And I'm sure they did that to everybody. So it was either like, do it and just take it for face value and have fun with it or don't. And we'll just take another Joe Schmo and throw them on the yacht. That's a very common, I think, theme with people being cast on reality shows. Although now they probably make the argument, look, you're going to make money having been seen on the show. That's why we're not going to pay you anything. I love that cure all.

Just have fun with it. I actually don't think that's a thing. for reality TV shows because somebody's agent was like, what the hell is this? You guys got, I keep saying that. You guys got fucked bad. Like, because this contract's bullshit. So yeah, I don't think it was

Yeah, but I think it was just Had you asked for or had you asked for No, you couldn't get it. They just said, we'll find somebody else because we don't want to pay royalties. This is a pilot season. Like, we're not, at the time, we were nobody. They're the ones who made us famous, right?

but they could have made anyone Kat, was the contract a little better second season two? Were you able to have a little negotiation there? No, because in the first contract you signed it said the only negotiation, if you were, aspect was like a 5% increase in pay

and nothing else. Damn. They got us so good. Would you guys, you were lost in? Would you guys feel comfortable saying what you got paid for the first season? Yeah. Sammy, do you want to say it?

I'll say it regardless. Go ahead. I honestly don't remember. I'm trying to think. I feel like it was. It was industry standard for the position that you were working. So if you were a second, Stu, which I was, or, you know, I got industry standard salary. Like, and we filmed for six weeks.

So it was monthly pay, right? You get this much per month. I think I was making maybe $4,000 a month or $5,000. I don't remember what it was. And that doesn't include the tips. And then, right, right. And then, you know, travel, everything was paid for. And then you would get tips.

And we made, I think, 10,000 in tips. Wow. Maybe it was 20. I know there was an issue getting over the border with the cash or with the money because, you know, you can only claim so much. You can only take so much. 10,000 usually. Yeah.

And we had more than that. So we were, you know, I know there was a trick there. we had to pull or something. Oh, God, I shouldn't say that. There were no tricks. There is such a limitations. No tricks. All right, so a couple other questions. And by the way, I'm really enjoying this kind of behind the scenes production stuff. Yeah, we appreciate it. Generally, Bravo hates. We talk about this. All right, so for both of you, and we'll start with Kat and then we'll hit Sam, when you look back on season one,

is there anything that sticks out at you? Sam, I think you're going to probably say, I don't fucking care. But is there anything that sticks out with you from season one or season two? anything from filming on this show that's still kind of... Regret, happy memory, regret, happy memory. And that's a question from Jessica Lynn. One thing that sticks out was how horrific my behavior was, and Ben made it a really good point. You know, Ben sticks out for me, you know, especially for both seasons, but he had said I sounded like a demonic refugee.

Yeah. Homeless zombie or something. I thought that was mean. It was very mean, but I think he nailed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He called you like a, yeah, a refugee raccoon trailer person, which was a little heavy-handed. But, you know, at the time, you were, you know,

you were going through stuff. I guess, yeah, I mean, we can move on to the next question because I don't think Sam will have it. Yeah, I think Sam's done with the show. Gray McCarty asked, Love you, Gray. And also Little Gabby, who was on Season 2, of sailing. She wants to know

what's it like working with an alcoholic fake captain? Yeah. Yeah, what's that like? I guess it's deep out. It was kind of a joke. It was kind of a joke. You know?

Yeah. It was, uh, it wasn't reality because that would never fly in reality. Hey, y'all, I got a, I got a hard stop it too. I need to run. All right. Hey, Sam, we really appreciate you having you on, having you on really fun season. Thank you so much. Kat, do you mind staying on for a few more questions? Not at all. Great. Hey, Sam, thank you for everything.

Thank you so much, Sam. No problem. Bye, Timmy. Kat, do you and Sam maintain a relationship? We'd spoken off air and I think Sam had mentioned that you guys were texting back and forth. Do you guys still maintain a relationship um you know i feel like sammy's the type i could call her and um talk to her anytime if i needed to and we did keep in touch and for for a long time after filming you know we were really close and i'm close very close with her family um even maybe more so with them sometimes because she's so busy you know yeah yeah yeah yeah um when you talk on the phone does she often take a long time to answer your questions that might be an audio issue yeah I think she's I don't know I don't know what the thing is because it's like time was definitely an issue so no it was an audio thing yeah and a brain thing um okay so more listener questions for you pat thank you for your cat thank you for your time yes cat just a couple more um Sarah Becker wants to know what you're up to now okay so I just got back from um I want to call it was like a spiritual journey but it you know

So I went out west and did that whole thing. Oh, wow. You go out west and you do a lot of exploring and I got into lapidary. Does anybody know what that is? No, and this is so fascinating, though. When you say out west, are we talking about like Zion? Indiana, Arizona. Okay, okay.

Yeah, Nebraska, Nevada. Okay. So I was out there and I got into lapidary and I had never heard that word before. And I thought, you know, what the fuck is a lapidary? And so it's, you know, the step process of, you know, cutting precious gemstones because I was into crystals

and things before, but it's the cutting and polishing them. And I was like, why haven't I not heard that? And just a fun fact. So, you know, you get engaged, you get a diamond. Well, it's cut. Right. Essentially. In a lapidary or by a laparerist,

right? Right. But people who cut diamonds are pretentious, and they like to be called gem cutters, just so you No, don't mess that one out. Yeah. Otherwise, yeah. So I thought that was interesting. So I got into that.

Okay. And, you know, it was soul searching out there, too. That's what I was doing. Yeah, big skies out there in that country. Very big skies. If you don't mind, what's your present? What state do you live in now? So I'm currently in Virginia.

Oh, I just got back from Virginia. What part of Virginia, Kat? actually not too far from Richmond okay okay cool yeah that by the way seems like completely different worlds yachting in the Caribbean and kind of the woods of Virginia

yeah Virginia is so beautiful I mean I just got back and I'm regrouping and I don't plan on staying here I really don't like it that much but I have to see the family yeah yeah no Virginia's great families here yeah yeah I'm not from here.

It's a little... Yeah, I miss out West, for sure. Yeah. Well, when you were in this lapidary journey, were you in like a cult or anything? Like, did you get any brands? What? Did you get any brands?

Was there a leader? Dylan's joking. Did you get a brand like Keith Reneery from the... I forget what that cult was. Nexium. Nexium. But no, we have a lot more questions from fans.

And when I say a lot more, I mean like two or three. All right. All right. So I guess, Cat. Did you stay in the yachting industry after filming season two of Belowdeck? Oh, yeah. You did?

Yeah, I don't, did I? Yeah, it must have been for like a year. A year. Now, I was in Yotting for 11 years. I just, I don't know how long after filming. Because, guys, it was so long ago. It's really hard to keep. And we apologize for it.

It has been a decade. So Brianna, Karen, asked that question. So if you could, I know it's been a number of years, could you, if there was one captain or Bosen or lead deckhand for you to build out your like dream team, perhaps there are names that we don't know because you're in the industry for 11 years and they weren't on a show called Below Deck, but just if you've watched the show kind of in and out throughout the years, is there anybody that sticks out that you would work with? I'm just going to go with Ben.

You liked Ben. he called you a trailer park nuclear raccoon rat he seems mean he he was mean but that's who i would pick yeah and why not lee oh but you said i thought i only had one option oh no no i would like who would be the captain who it sounds like the chef would be bent oh my god you want me to build a whole crew yes oh shit i haven't stayed up to date with everyone um fuck i don't don't know and maybe do no yeah i'm i'm not up to date with nearly half the people yeah have um aired so wow can i ask you this i would redo season one and see what happens yeah so let me ask you this cat we i think we're going to recap season two um on our patreon and we'd love to have

you back on again but um just kind of like one last question um so when you finished filming season one and they had the reunion. I just, I kind of want this to end on a positive note. You guys were all flown out to New York City. What was that night like after you finished the reunion? Was it a gregarious kind of celebration? Like, holy shit, we're on TV. Like, can you kind of, do you have any memories of that? Yeah. So that was after the first reunion. Correct. Yeah, we all just went out and at the bar drinking. And I don't know, everything seemed normal, I us. You know, it's just we had fancy things. Yeah. Did you, did you and Ben reconnect? No, I think I, I think I had a boyfriend with me at the time. And you got a plus one.

Ah, Fred. Yeah. Okay, no, this is the last question. Were you boozing that night? Did you have booze under the pillow or something like that? Because Adrienne accused you of being drunk and you said that you were on. Yeah, something like that. You asked me if I had booze under a pillow. No, no. Well, that evening, what, what happened because Adrian has accused you of just drinking the entire time? But what was going on that night? The night after the reunion. No, no, no. The night during this season when you almost got fired. Oh. You know, let's plead the fifth on that one. Yeah, no, she admitted to it on the reunion. I watch a reunion. But also, it's worth mentioning. And this is, true, and I think they're all liars, everyone's drinking through Charter. Give me a goddamn break.

Actually, that's a great question to ask. Kat, is everybody on these boats, for the most part, drinking during Charter? You know, on a good charter boat, you're not, because you really are, the season is not just six weeks. You really got to pace yourself. Yeah. And you do it because it's worth it. You know, you're not thinking, I really got to have a drink, but we're working two jobs. You know, after when you have time to kind of just regroup your thoughts, we're got to be filming some something. You never had time to yourself. We drank. Right.

Right. Like, this is insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, um, yeah, so. I think that's a good way to go out. Yeah, I think that's a great way. Kat, would you ever come back on if we do a, uh, and recap an episode of season two with you on it? Yeah, of course.

We'd love it. You've been so gracious with your time. We really appreciate it. I've forgotten completely what happened. I've heard season two is juicy. A lot of our listeners said they want us to recap it. So maybe we'll just do that. It was so boring, I felt like.

Oh, wow. You got to sell it, Kat. We'll be the judge of that, Kat. Thank you very much. Enjoy the rest of your time in Virginia. And yeah, we love you. Thanks, Kat. Thanks, guys.

And can we cut this? And then I have a question for you. Yeah, of course. Okay, just let me know one. Oh. Oh. I don't know how you guys want to do that or just. Yeah, no.

It's fine. You can trust us. We won't leave it in. What's up? Oh, okay. So when are you guys going to put this on your, it's going to go on YouTube or Instagram or you guys don't know yet? Well, we won't go on YouTube because we don't have the video.

Yeah, it'll be a pay. It'll be a paywall thing. Yeah. Probably like Wednesday or something. We can send you the audio if you want. Oh, whatever. No, I'm not worried about it. And then I thought I was curious.

What's going on with the occult thing? Oh, it was a bit that, you know, when people say they go out west for spiritual healing. Like ayahuasca or whatever, finding themselves. It kind of, it was just a joke about how maybe you got wrapped up in a cult. I did not believe that. I was just doing a bit. Yeah, he was trying to be funny.

Yeah. And succeeding. Oh, because I didn't know about anything like that. I didn't even know that was a real thing. Oh, you can join Colts out. Oh, big time. Yeah. Out west?

Big time. California is home. Wait, aren't you guys out west? We're in Los Angeles. We're in L.A. California has, I think, most cults per capita. Probably. In the country, yeah.

Washington. Oh, so it's a thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah. Are you guys in a cult? No. I am. Yeah, I'm in a cult. Tell me about what, the cults have a name that they give themselves.

Not that I can tell you, Kat, but... No, I don't want you to tell me. I know you wouldn't be able to tell me, but did they give them... You guys wear, like, like, if you were in a Boy Scouts, you would wear a badge that have your team. Yes. Is that what you guys are like? You have names.

Yes. There are laminated rules and you get given a new name. I'm not Dylan when I'm in the cult. And I'm still waiting for the aliens to show up. But I've been told if I drink this glass of cyanide next week, then I'll get to meet them. Yeah, exactly. And if you do go out West and anybody tries to have sex with you in a weird way, just know that that's probably a cult. All right?

Okay. All right. All right. And then you guys ready for the eclipse tomorrow. Is that tomorrow? There's so much light pollution in this city. We just had one cat. All jokes aside, I watched it with my daughter. It was like 6 o'clock on Sunday.

It was awesome. It wasn't visible. Well, no, it actually, what happened was it got completely dark. Dillon, you watch this, right? No. Huh. Yeah, it got completely dark. And then it shined like it's never shined before at like 7 o'clock when it should be

dark here. Yeah. I love all that stuff. I can tell you're kind of in, you're a very spiritual person. How do you've, yeah, but the last one we had a few, like two weeks ago, it was not visible. How do you, how do you feel about Libra's cat? If they're in cults, they're probably not that balanced. Right? I don't know. Is that what a Libre is? They're balanced? Yes. I've dated a number of them. Yeah. And then never date. A lot of left-time at Leo's.

Who are the Two-Face ones? They're born in June. I've dated a couple of them, too. Yikes. Fucking Gemini's. All right, Kat. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it.

Yeah, hey, Kat, we'll be in touch. We're going to probably start recap in season two, probably in a couple months. And we'd love to have you come on. You'll have to do is you'll have to watch an episode back so that you can remember. And then we kind of go chronologically what happened in the episode. Okay. Yeah. We'd love to have you on.

Thanks for doing this, Kat. Listeners will love it. Can you not air where I am? Don't put that, because I don't want people coming looking for me. In Virginia? Okay. We can beep that out. Well, no.

No, hell no. Don't say anything. Okay. Yeah, we can cut that up. Could you not do that? That would be great. Yeah, of course, yeah. We'll cut that out.

Of course. All right, Kat, thank you very much. All right, thanks, guys. Hey, thanks, Kat. Bye. Bye. Bye. Okay.

We are back. that was odd that was really odd I don't like Sam you don't like I no I don't like her one bit why not I just think she's very contentious

her kind of default setting is awful I'd say apathy no no no there's that definitely but it's um

listen and I know the fans are going to be like, well, why didn't you get it? It's like, I don't want to fight with a, I don't want to, like, get into a fight with somebody that I don't care about. Look, here's the thing, Dylan. And you just, we're coming back from the interview with Kat and Sam. That was cool, huh?

Do I really wish we got Adrian on? You know, sometimes you, what you're hoping for is, it's not in the cards. I'll be Sam, you be Adrian. You tell me that I'm a, I don't know, say something mean, entitled, you know. You are the worst devil woman bitch that I've ever had to work for. No, no, no. You're Adrian. Oh, I'm Adrian.

Yeah, you're Adrian. Oh, so I switch up. Yeah. Sam, I'm really tired of you being lazy. Yeah. I asked you to clean the cabins twice. before you were going to eat lunch and you're sitting here eating a cob salad and uh i'm going to have to tell lee about it no but you be adrian at in the years after like if we had had her on the zoom

adrian talking to sam now about what had happened back then okay and seen okay uh i heard you on the podcast another below deck podcast sam i kind of troubled by your lack of memory of how events actually took place during that season. Don't you remember when we all chose to strike and tell producers we were going to walk off? I'd say something mean. You idiot. Sam?

Sam? Y'all, I don't even... Y'all, I don't even know. here's what I'll say. Sam, I don't think you're listening because you're over it. But probably not a good idea to agree to do an interview about a show you were on 10 years ago when you have no recollections of being on the show and you're kind of over it. And like, listen, like, you know, of course, I'll say again, like, you know, sure I could have said, like,

I've never spoken to somebody more useless than you in terms of recapping a television show, but I don't want, you know, it's just a mean thing to say, yeah. You can't talk like that. Well, we hope you guys enjoyed it. Yikes. All right, let's wrap this season 10 up. God, I had such hefty goals of how this would wrap up with an interview.

We should do this. just a rule moving forward you know maybe and this is a tough rule because um i don't know i think speaking to current sea rats is probably better than speaking to sea rats of yore because what's happened is they've kept drinking and um they've kept it all up the psychosis the gnawing all of it. So if we can get to them when they're on the current seasons, they're not yet quite as insane. Right. So that'll be good. Thank God. This behind a paywall. Yeah. All right. So I hope you enjoyed it. Let's finish the final moments of Below Deck episode nine. And we did. We bleeped out where Kat is currently residing so that you would not come after her. We bleeped.

that out. And it's because you guys are going to come after it. Okay. All right, where are we? All right, the guests go swimming and Adrian changes wardrobe. Oh, we already covered that. Shorty shorts. If I knew where Leo DiCaprio lived, I would not come after him. But that's just me.

Right. You know. Right. All right. Let's cut to night time. Hey, Leo. Leo. Hey, I think that's cat from below deck season one over there. Let's get her. Okay. By this point in the show, and I know it's weird how we've kind of added this all together,

Adrian's been accused of being a lesbian multiple times. It's very dude. I think that's a dude, dude, dude. Sure. Very homophobic back. Who cares. Okay. And at this point, she is a lesbian.

Nighttime, dinner. Ben really hates making food for Compass the dog. And Adrian arrives to the ball. I think we've, have we touched on this? Yeah, we talked about that. And Lee gives the command for Compass to go poop and does it in that hammed up way where he's like, he's like,

you know, if I'm going to have a podcast one day, I got a fucking, I got to put a little pizzazz on this. It's like, yeah, God, you fucking old creepy man with your pro-lapse fucking asshole. Next day, the ladies leave. And we get to a nice tip. Oh, yes. Not really.

12 gs yeah well actually though that's for 24 hours so that's legit that's one day that's a very good tip 1,200 bucks yes yeah so everybody gets 1200 bucks and somebody else gets another little gift hmm I'm not sure what that is but sam notes the size of the tip could be due in large to adrian scissoring the charter guest a nice gift is eddie who gets a promotion an epa let we got a job to do come on man we got a fucking job to do man and that's a how you get promoted yeah uh sam and adrian chat and she apologizes for her behavior and with her 51 hundred she will be headed to singapore i didn't get to ask her about how that went yeah i oh ask a ask her i'll be sam sam sam sam sam sam sam sam sam season one uh you're parting words to adrian

yeah you are going to uh take that money and go do a nice uh nice trip to singapore uh how was that Did you ever make your way there? Sam? Y'all, honestly, I, that happened. However, when it did, I just... You don't remember. It's not that I don't remember. It's just I remember it kind of...

okay okay uh so the guests are off the boat cats excited to go out but uh not that crazy cat is a good shot uh final night dinner of course shots we're not going to get the cat that turns any pole into a stripper pole no which is sad mm-hmm is that fun cat we get fun cat and uh there's shots we learned the sea rats will be going uh porcupine is uh going with dave yeah cats says, I got a game. Let's all say what we're doing after this. That's not a game. A game

includes consequences, rewards, risk, rules, competition. This is just... Well, they have a fun night out. Here, I'll be, Sam. You ask me if this is a game. All right. Next morning, this was the best moment of

show and this is i think how we'll end it um Alex porcupine head uh him and Lee are talking and Lee says let me walk you out and Lee walks porcupine head out on that doc and he leans into his ear and he whispers I won how do you like that spike fuck I won and he did he did he did he beat porcupine head. That is how it's done. Guys, thank you so much for listening to us all season. It has been quite a miracle that we have talked to the sea rats. We started in June, by the way. I am so sorry. We've talked to the sea rats. We've spoken to. We went back in the history of yore and yonder, and it's all been so nautically naughty. We love you guys so much for listening. We love you for supporting the show. You guys don't need to give us your five bucks, but you do it

because it keeps us going. We can't thank you enough. More below deck content is coming exclusively to Patreon right around the corner. Until next time, get in the comments. Tell us your favorite food, your favorite thing to put on a tune. How did I make your tunas? And that's it. I'm Dylan saying goodbye, Pat.

Say goodbye. Bon voyage. No. No.