Another Below Deck Podcast - The Power of Patti LuPone w/ The Reality Gays | Love is Blind S8 Finale & Reunion

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

Pat and Dylan are joined by Mattie and Poodle to break down Shucked, Grizzly Man, Santa Clarita, lust with Instacart, Second Chance Hallways and more from Netflix's Love is Blind.Traitors at Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetwork YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@anotherbelowdeckpodcast_Reality Gays - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reality-gays-with-mattie-and-poodle/id1477555097

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You're expressing your heterosexuality in a helpful way. Yeah, I'll tell you what, it's my truth. And I saw, I saw shucked. Oh, I refuse to see that piece of garbage. Let's get in. Well, let's just start and we're starting now. And this is the podcast and we're just going to start. Right. And this is on the reality gaze feed as well.

So we don't want to confuse anybody when they hear a voice that I've heard. Now, just record it and then Jake and I can do an intro. We'll do an intro. We're keeping this in. Yeah, this is something it's kind of an amorphous concept. It's called a collaboration. It's me, Pat and our favorite gays, Maddie and poodle are here. Me and Maddie are going to go raw. I don't, well I don't really have notes for this either.

What could you possibly write about this? Pat and I are going with notes. We're going rubber. That's great. All right. And we're, Hey brother. Hi. Hi sugar. You're going to raw dog me. I have notes. Alright, this is bad hosting. We're here to break down the putrid combination

of the Love is Blind season 8 finale and reunion. I want to say this is a combined three hours long. Dylan always points out that Avatar 2 took 12 years to make two and a half hours. It wasn't three hours long, yeah. And it wasn't three hours long. People put so much time. And that was an amazing film.

Yeah, it was. It was, it was a great story. Technically, technically and technologically. Did Avatar 2 come out? I don't even remember. Yes. Yeah, Avatar 2 came out. He just announced that part three is going to be four hours.

I used to fuck this guy who- James Cameron? He was working, no. No, James Cameron is- No, I used to fuck this guy who worked on Avatar. Like, and they have planned up to seven movies. Wow. Of those movies.

It's too many movies. I agree. It's too many movies. He was doing some of the art for Avatar 5. I watched- Wow. It's too many movies. I agree. It's too many movies. He was, he was doing some of the art, um, for Avatar five. I watched Alien Romulus on my plane. I came back from Seattle this, uh, this Monday and you can listen to that. I don't want to pitch our Patreon if it's on there. No, pitch yourself. We do another podcast show. What do you do on your Patreon? I want to know all about your, I just want you to slap it on me like a slimy dick.

We just, we just get slimy. We get raw and we just talk about our lives. Like Pat has two children. I'm about to have a little girl and he's fucking miserable. And I'm about to be, you know. Children ruin everything. So I hear it. I just, I just spawned your child

and I don't really give a shit. But I'm happy that you are. If like, there's something you say, like with someone having a child, you go, aw. Did you mean to get pregnant or is it just from fucking? No, we meant it. We meant it. We worked hard.

Are you gonna keep it? I don't know. It's kind of a coin toss at this point, but anyways, I just got back from Seattle. What a beautiful, complicated place. I'm so excited. We went to a restaurant that was, you have to, it was first come first serve. Oh, come on. A restaurant. I would hate that. It's a first come, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. We have to talk about Love is Blind. No, but I do want to know. So what do you cover certain shows on your

Patreon? Right now it's APS, which is another podcast show where we just talk about our lives. We have kind of one of those, but yeah, that's the Galey Dose. Yeah. Yes. We talk about our lives, this other stupid shit that's happening in the world. Tease what was what's upcoming this week? What are you? We haven't figured it out yet. They were recording this on Monday. We have a meeting about it on Tuesday. And usually one of us looks up something to do. And basically we talk about Gayly Dose is a show where we do like a word of the day,

which is like a pop culture gay thing. And we or we make it word of the gay word which is like a pop culture gay thing. And we, or we make it word of the day. You know, we're really clever. The branding never stops. Yeah. And we don't have to watch no pre no shows. And it's just us kind of talking about, and we have a thing like, what are we into? Like, what are we doing right now?

Sometimes it's poodles recipes. Sometimes it's me talking about how I want to eat pancakes all the time. So I make smaller things and- Do you have a lot of recipes? Kind of. Yeah, I cook. He's a very good cook.

Is he a good cook? He is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I do those things. I finally learned to cook whenever I moved out of the house though, because you cannot cook if poodle is anywhere near your

kitchen. Well, your skills are subpar. But he will just yell at you, although he did teach me how to chop an onion. I did. Well, if he doesn't micromanage, you'll go to the emergency room and or make something that tastes bad. So he has to micromanage. Thank you.

You know what? That's what he said. I would say, I gotta teach you how to chop an chop onion or chop your fingers off and make shitty food. I would say that him making food that tasted bad is worse than him going to the grocery store. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. It's very dangerous. Is it too cold in here?

Is it like freezing? I'm a little cold, but I could deal. I have a sweater, I'm on the edge. I'm on the edge of goldenness. I'm gonna fix the tone. You see Gaga on Saturday Night Live? I haven't watched it yet. I love it that a straight man just said,

did you see Gaga on Saturday Night Live? And I had to reply, I haven't. You know, I, this is- Where is my gay card? This is why I love- I've seen her twice live. Twice? She's incredible.

Are you a Gaga-d? What's a Gaga? A monster. A little monster. I'm not a little monster. You're a little monster. Pause up. I can. A little monster. I'm not a little monster. You're a little monster. Pause up. I can't even say that.

I feel like a douche. I do love this about LA. I was at a dive bar that my friend works at. Do you know that bar the Cozy Inn in Culver City? The old opens at like 6 a.m. I just love the way that starts. Do you know that? Do you know that dive bar in Culver City?

Yeah, it's where you get drunk in an STI. But no, it's great to- It's just a bunch of old drunk guys. But no, I'm sitting at the bar and then these like group of guys that look like you, but like 10 years ago you, so like still hot straight guys, but younger- 10 years ago you!

You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I mean listen. I mean, y'all are past your prime, let's be honest. No, no, no, no, no, we for sure are. He kind of has looked the same because he gets so much Botox, but you know, he maintains. Oh, you Botox it too soon.

I think you both look the same since I knew. I had fucking facelift, but anyway. He had a whole chamber of his neck taken out. Yeah, they did everything, a forehead lift. You look great. Thank you. You guys both look great. Thank you.

Thank you, chamber. He had this strange chamber in his neck. I had extra saliva glands and he took out my salivatory glands in my neck. You had extra saliva glands? It's like you combined a bullfrog with human genes. Yeah, I was gonna say.

It's like amphibious. Because even if I got a neck lift, it would basically look like a belt on a beer belly. So he had to take out the actual organs in there to make it skinnier. Oh, there's all- Because we actually have too much saliva glands. And now I know it's the first time in my life

that my mouth has ever gotten dry as sucking dick. Normally it's just like a slobber fence. I'm like a wet smurf. You know, like, would you take the, the things back knowing that you are not. No, have you seen my neck? It looks amazing. Your neck looks fish.

I will say this. His neck does look great. He does have a lot of orthodontic orthodontic issues. You have a dull braces right now. Oh really gay version of a chastity belt. Oh yeah. Nobody wants to put their dick. Actually I just was told today I don't have to wear the rubber bands anymore, but he said

he might be thinking about head gear. Might come back back into this. I know y'all and he's got his his he has to work harder to speak words. And I already every every single moment I hear him trying to wrap his mouth around the words. Why didn't you get what Invisalign? Where are we? We started with Invisalign. That's it. We've not gotten into one second yet, but that's fine. I was gonna tell something. I didn't talk about the fucking show.

I still didn't get why I brought this up. Oh, so I sat at this bar and these young, hot, four guys, broed, and I immediately, because we're taught mainly now, trust the bear, the man. That's where gay men and women are right now. And I was like, oh God, what a bunch of bros. And then they sat down and they were all people that worked in the film business and they were talking about art styling and like the difference of like

this set they were working on this film and it was art deco inspired and I went I fucking... You judged them! I fucking loved but no I want to tell the rest of the women the world this is what happens when you live in an artistic place like Los Angeles whereas in Oklahoma all they would fucking talk about is, oh, you goddamn football. There are better straight men in bigger cities. I think the best straight men are in Los Angeles. Well, I guess like in a sloppy segue, we can- My favorite kind.

They're not in Minneapolis. That's what they call me in college. Can we talk about Minneapolis really quickly? Yeah. Yeah. I want to jump right in. Thank you. And say with Minneapolis, I would have thought this would have been one of the best seasons

because you are essentially really cutting down the possibility of how many people are going to show up here for their IG. Hi Madison, we see you. Yeah, hi Madison, we see you. And so, but what I didn't realize- I love how sexy your voice is. Okay, okay, get off his dick. Yeah, right? We didn't realize that these people,

while quaint and nice and pleasant, are boring as fuck. Yeah. We did need a little bit of thirsty Instagram wannabes on this show. Cause at least they put on a good show. At least they put on a good show. I think we should only have them. Yeah, I think we should put,

we call them the beige brigade. Beige brigade. This was the beige brigade this season. It was just, I confused all the, I was like, wait, that's another white girl? I don't remember who that is. Oh, I couldn't tell the men apart. Yeah.

And also this is gonna make me sound like a complete asshole, but I don't care. I like to watch very good looking people make bad life decisions. Oh no. I don't think you're an asshole at all for that. That don't. No, don't do it.

Why not do? He was about to say that the people, now I'm doing it for you. I'm not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. Why not do? He was about to say that the people in the, now I'm doing it for you. I'm not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. What are you gonna do? I was just gonna say Filthy Yucky Normies make bad life choices.

Like it's boring as hell. Think about it. Filthy Yucky Normies, the sequel to Crazy Rich Asians. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's worse, but it's a sequel. Yeah. I think most of us like to look at attractive people with bad life decisions. Yes. We live through it. It's like shot and full. Yeah. I think most of us like to look at attractive people with bad life decisions.

Yes. We live through it. It's like shot and full. It makes us feel better. Because yes, they got to be beautiful, but they're stupid. It makes me feel, yeah. Well, so I think that we can all agree that this is,

I don't know. Well, they've put out so many bad seasons of this show. I think we've been kind of like in a malaise. This show just comes out all the time. Twice a year. Twice a year. And it's mostly. If you work in quality control at a candy factory,

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The show is both, both. Cause I actually enjoyed last season. You know what? Season was good. You know what? Here's the thing. Again, though, we don't, we forget all of them. When they showed them the, was it?

No, when they showed the people and the best of us, like, who's that? You know what it is too though? Here's why they don't care. Netflix, there's someone smoking a Stoke and going, they'll watch it cause it's on TV. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. The fat cats over.

Yeah. Just eating a big bowl. Just eating out of a Kentucky fried chicken bowl of like, they'll watch it cause it's on TV. We don't have to do anything. I love it. Jake, I agree with you, but I think they hurt their brand and they'll feel it in season nine. I totally agree. This, this season, especially, I think, um, I think, I don't know if you guys watched the, um, number one and all the rankings. Oh yes, we're going to get to that. None of those should be anywhere near the best. Well, one of them should have been.

I think there was one that was placed accurately. Is this the Gay Genie look that- No, it was when she told him that she looked like Beggin Fox. Oh, okay, fine. Well, no, the moments. I was just talking about the rankings when they showed Netflix. The Netflix ranking.

Oh, sorry. They showed your Netflix app. This season premiered at number one. Usually they stay at number one for a while. It went all the way down to number seven within the first two or three episodes. The reason why I don't have hope is because this company, Netflix, they just, I don't think they've ever been profitable.

Haven't they been like $50 billion in debt since they stopped shipping DVDs? I don't know, they had to raise their prices again. It is the Bitcoin of networks. Yeah, it's complete anarchy. Yeah, it is anarchy. So I don't think they'll, I hope they improve it, but they seem to be very preoccupied with this.

Let's have babies come out of this. And let's have real less about this. Netflix wants the cash cow, but then also Chris Cullen and the company as they. He's literally cancer, y'all. Yeah, he really feels like he's curing fucking cancer with this show. Executive producer. Yeah. OK, he's like, we're starting to marry first sight.

No, great. Oh, he did start married at first sight, which is now a better show than Love is Blind. People say this is the US version. They're loving it. People say this season, well no, the Married at First Sight, I don't know if you guys ever watched Australia. If it got better, the US, I'd cover it. Australia is un-fucking-believeable.

That's what our fans say. Most people say you have to recap this. It's incredible. Do y'all recap the US one? It's just hard to watch. No. I watch it. Is that a TLC show?

Yes. No, it's lifetime. Lifetime, sorry. Yeah, lifetime. I was mixing it up. Yeah. If it gets better, I would do it. Guys, when did you realize,

cause you actually get the early screeners for Netflix, were you guys talking to each other by episode five going, when the fuck are we getting out of the pods? We can do that for you. We like the pods. Yeah. We'll tell you how to get screeners. You just need to... He loves to feel like Mariah Carey. tell you how to get screeners. You just need to.

He loves to feel like Mariah Carey. Yell at him, all right. Yes, yeah, take that out Christina, but yeah. So anyway, we were talking about how we like the pods and there's usually, the problem is past episode three, they were having the same conversations over and over again and no one ever got any deeper. Now we know it's because maybe Devin in Virginia did,

but he was talking about he we hated Muslims probably the whole time. Yeah, sure. And or how he thought that that a woman should give birth to term and should be made to a gunpoint. The Reverend Virginia, Virginia. What the fuck are they talking about in these pods that they aren't on the same page with values? And they're finding that out after the pods and off camera.

There's, there's way too much of this show that happens off camera. I think my favorite moment and we should give our blindfolds. Oh yeah. That's our rating system. this show that happens off camera. But I think my favorite moment, and we should give our blindfolds. Oh, yeah, that's our rating system. That's our rating system. Yes. One out of 100 blindfolds.

But my favorite part of this three hour extravaganza was Virginia going, you know, I'm not comfortable. Just talking about his views, but I'll tell you, I'm fine with Muslims. Yeah, I'm fine with it. I love gay people. I love gay people. I love gay people. I don't think gay people are.

And I believe in a woman's right to have an abortion. And everyone on that stage- But I'm not talking about him. Am I gonna bring this stuff up? In the like second produce, the second EP, Rachel, that we always say, he's always going, cut to the racist guy, cut to the racist guy, cut to the sexist.

Yeah, she's always like- Cut cameras, as we said at the, as the wheelchair episode, cut to the wheelchair. Cut to the racist guy. Cut to the sexist. Yeah, she's always like, camera. As we said at the, as the wheelchair episode, cut to the wheelchair. Cut to the wheelchair. Oh my God. Cut to the wheelchair. By the way, I gotta ask this. Was the woman or the girl who was in the wheelchair, was her name Chassie?

Yeah. As in something on a carriage that rolls? That's right. Yeah, I was very confused about it. Okay. I don't remember, there's so much trauma dumping in the beginning of the show. That's foreshadowing.

That I don't even, I don't remember which perilous fate Chassie bet. No, it was almost as bad as the Charlotte show where Brittany's cousin or aunt flew through the roof of her car and went down on the asphalt. Yeah. And then she went right to heaven, as we says. She did that.

All right. So we both of us have very popular shows, right? And I assume producers listen in to check where the wind is. That's a really loaded assumption. I am going to help producers. It's not a loaded assumption in Pat's world. It is fact. And kind of scary, he seems to reproduce

every new season that comes out. I think the producers are listening. Okay, so we were mocking the music for three seasons. Suddenly Marvin Gaye cues are coming up and fucking Coldplay. It's true. Not happy about it. That's like, they don't know what they're doing. We liked that it was bad.

We don't put Billy Eilish in, but do they know what they're doing? Because this is the first time we've ever had a pod concert at the end of a reunion. Okay, I thought that was actually coming right at me and Dylan. I felt so embarrassed to even be watching. You know, the phrase secondhand embarrassment

doesn't cover it. I watched with a friend who's a professional musician and toured and we both put our hands over our faces. I was like this, I was watching this guy's like, Lollilolls kinda sound a little bit like Rick Astley. But kinda not, but awful. And then like the people on stage mouthing the words, like they knew this new hit song.

Some guitar players fucking stuck in a pod. Oh, yeah. They got to that before that. Sorry, we're way too. Before that performance, the cast threw socks into a laundry basket. Yeah, I fast forwarded that because I was furious. OK, so zero zero blindfolds for me. Zero for me as well. And I want to offer producers some ideas for next season,

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Call 1-800-GRANGER, click Granger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done. You choose a partner in the pods and then you do a review. Then and so they get more couples because the stakes are low. You're talking about the second chance hallway right now? It's second chance. Dylan, you know where I'm going. Okay, so we're going to get more couples because I like more couples.

That's what they call me in college. I want seven couples going to Honduras, okay? So next season, wherever shitty resort they go to. All right, so you get seven or nine couples going. Then at the resort, now you get to see the people that you didn't choose to move forward with. Second chance hallway. Second chance hallway.

I love this idea. At the conclusion of the resort, now you're meeting, oh wow, she's hot. You know what I mean? Then now you can realign and make your choice. Then we then go back to real life and move in with each other. That is how you fix the show.

That is a great idea. I'm a producer. I'm a producer at home. That's such a good idea. It's a great idea. Such a good idea. I need you to make your own show. Fuck Chris Colen.

Yeah. Yeah, I think he would sue us. If you're listening, please don't. Please don't sue me. Ours is behind a paywall on Patreon, love and find. Yours is probably out there for everybody to hear. It's the first time we've ever put it for free. Allegedly, fuck you, Chris Colen.

That's right. What's his name? Chris Colen. Chris Colen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,? Chris Colen. Chris Colen. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. So weddings. You guys hated it. I hated it too. Can I give a negative blindfold number? Yeah, of course. It's not negative 99.

Yeah. I think that's more accurate than zero. You know what? I give it out of 100. Yeah. I give it an 11 blindfolds and I give it 11 because I did love seeing two women say, I'm not choosing fucking stupid men who don't voice their opinions. And that was the only part I liked.

Oh, are we talking about the weddings or just the... The whole thing in general. That's what I enjoyed seeing. Miss Buckets, we call her Miss Buckets because when they said, you know, when Devon said to her, oh, your name is gonna be Buckets. We went, I went, I didn't know his name was Buckets, we call her Miss Buckets. Because when they said, you know when Devin said to her, oh, your name is gonna be Buckets. We went, I went, I didn't know his name was Buckets.

I did not, and for an entire episode, we thought that was his real name. His name is Buckley, but obviously they call him Buckets because he's basketball. But we're gaming. And we went, his name is Buckets, oh my God. I've been fucked by basketball players, but I've never played basketball. I just started calling her Virginia Buckets. Oh my God. I've been fucked by basketball players, but I've never played basketball.

I just started calling her Virginia Buckets. And I was like, the right Redburn Virginia Buckets. Honestly, as many basketball players on the down low have fucked me, you could call me Miss Maddie Buckets. Miss Maddie Buckets. Miss Maddie Buckets. All right, Maddie Buckets.

What city? Oh, definitely, definitely. He has to think about what city has baseball basketball teams. No, no, no. Where the men were were Inglewood. Yeah, you're that's very brave of you. Inglewood always. Yeah. Oh, I know. Inglewood's better than most.

Well, no, I was talking about the the size of the penises. Oh, yeah. That's not a problem. Oh, that's not a problem. Yeah, that's what I was saying. No, it's like a hot dog down a hallway. Yeah. But seven dwarfs could speed lunk my ass. Just yo, yo. So yeah. Prolapse city. Yeah. I'm going to need a colostomy bag when I'm 60. No. I hope not. I do Pilates, so hopefully it keeps it all tight. Dr do Pilates! Dr. Drew says anal sex long run man. This is going to be some complications. You know I was about to ask how colostomy bags work but we don't need to get into that.

I think my first boyfriend, he had like a six inch thick, eight and a half inch dick. My very first big guy. So I just was from the get go. Molded out of the gate. When you start at the top, then you never go to the bottom. That was a real problem for you. We all have our crosses to bear. I know. Okay, so wedding. All right.

So weddings. Dylan, I don't think we need to do more. All right. We should break every yes or no down. I don't think we need to get too much into the families having old fashions. My gummies kicking in. I'm here all night. Whatever you want sugar. Well, okay. So we end with Sarah and Ben at the altar and she says no. Now we've been pretty big

advocates of people like fraudulently going through the process, even though you don't, you know, it's not going to work, but you know, get to the altar. This is a game. This is not a real, you know. But the way that she went about it was like, it was so confusing to me because she was saying, she says no. Buried the lead, I think. But she says no and then she says that she still loves him and she's open to dating him and she wants to be with him. But when she's on but she says no and then she says that she still loves him and she's open to dating him and she wants to be with him but when she's on the altar she was like, oh okay, go away.

She's like go away, yeah. She seems really disgusted. And the idea that she thinks that she's still open to dating him but his values are antithetical to who she is. Everything about her. So why is she still thinking about dating him? When you don't fuck someone in the back of your mind,

you want to know. You don't think they had sex? None of them had sex. Wait, what do you mean? This is one of the first seasons that no one banged before their wedding on this show. We don't have evidence of that. Okay.

Well, though, Devon and Virginia said they did not. Right, Devon and Virginia did. Taylor and Cheesy Hands did. Lauren and Dave. Joey and Monica did have sex. He said once, she said twice. I don't know how they had. Lauren and Dave said that they hooked up.

But Joey and Monica had sex after when they tried to date. They did not have sex before getting married. That is so crazy. It was after, remember? Because they tried to date after. It's insane. Yeah. Never Minneapolis ever again.

I think a listener sent this to us. A guy saying it was this kind of like a tick tock. He's like, got a guy who said, you know why they asked me to be on love is blind. Not, this is not the guy who Lauren fucked, but, uh, he's like, the reason why everyone was the way they are is they had to scour the place. He's like, because I, he went through the whole thing is It's like, I know Lauren, my sister knows this guy. Everybody knows everyone in the city. Six degrees.

So you guys can relate to this. When you're living in LA, there's a time period where you're going out three nights a week. Yes. And you're in those circles, even in the- Late 20s, early 30s. That's right. So when you're in Minnesota and the pool is even smaller.

I never did that before. I did. How many times in the reunion, which we're jumping to, do they reference? And I saw him at a bar. They're all at bars all the time. I saw you at Slappy's. I didn't do that as much when I was younger either. Oh, I did. I don't have the energy. Oh, well he worked in West Hollywood. I worked in West Hollywood. It's like a big old slut every other night. Which bar?

All of them, honey. Oh, but mainly... Fiesta Cantina. Love that. Fiesta Cantina was where my age group was. Sometimes I would go to Motherlode. I saw him make out with so many men. Or one time, I...

Because we used to be roommates. I don't know if y'all knew that for a long time. And he came home. I was making my coffee in the morning, getting ready for my law office job. And I hear a knock at the door and I open the back door and it's poodle with his shirt off, leaving. I couldn't find my shirt. He couldn't find his shirt.

And he had it was on the floor and he couldn't unlock the door because he had too much lube on his hands. Yeah, too slippery. I fuck you not How long have you two known? He couldn't even open his car door 25 years That is so that is so beautiful. That is so beautiful. It is beautiful. You guys have you guys have stories Texas, right? That's really that's kind of crazy cuz me and Pat hate That's awesome straight men, especially really, that's kind of crazy. Because me and Pat hate each other. Ten years.

That's awesome. For straight men especially. Okay so next story. Hold on, hold on. So we're gay horses, crack the whip. So Sarah says that her issue was that he wasn't passionate about the same things and didn't have any opinions. And curiosity. And curiosity. He had opinions. They

just differed. He had opinions. They just sucked. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out whether or not like did they actually talk about anything or did he just say I'm not I'll read a lot of homin hominism. I didn't remember. Yeah. I think he wanted to get on the show and see as far as it could go. Ben? Yeah. Well, and you know, there was all this stuff with this girl that put this TikTok out and you saw that she put another one out. I'm sure she is. She's a look. I mean, yes, he was an asshole, but she's also very intense. She's so in, I think she needs enough. I think she needs- Do you see what she looks like? She needs a PR person to tell her how to do these things. Do like hostage videos on TikTok.

Her eyes are really wide. I do feel like this is a guy who like ghost people and she acts like she works for Dateline and she just solved like a serial killer murder. Which makes the question like, okay, what is it that you're talking about? I mean, we kind of saw it in this reunion, but he's crazy.

If you're just a young asshole, to what, like, are we, what are we? Thoughts dime a dozen. We can all agree, right? Because we all grew up having fun in LA. If you were found guilty of ghosting people in society, I would be killed by a firing squad. I know, think of what y'all did as straight men.

Think of what I did in my 20s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my early 30s. Here's how it works for me. Oh my God. It goes two ways straight. You hook up with someone or maybe you don't, and then they stop responding to your texts. Yeah.

That's ghosting. It's how the game is played. That's right. I would prefer that. Then someone tell, if we banged a couple of times, just don't text me back. It's awkward. It's almost romantic.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? You're left with the sense that maybe just someone didn't get around to it. Or maybe they died even more romantic. Oh, even better. Right, maybe they were killed. Or they died of a horrible disease.

Yes, and then when you find out- And they spoke your name on their death, baby. They went, poodle. It's romantic, I tell your name on their death bed, they went poodle. It's romantic, I tell you. And their wife said, who? So if that's what this is about, then like, please calm down. Lady who keeps posting these. Monica and Joey are so effing annoying him and that goddamn skateboard.

This fucking skateboard. I said I looked the other way because that's him. When he brought it to the reunion, I went, I hate you. I am officially over you. I said at the wedding, he thought that was him. And I said, no, in this wedding, he, between Matt and his Instagram, he's given me actually undercover,

I want to be an influencer vibe. We never knew who this motherfucker was. I was going to, I couldn't get a read on him the entire time. He just wants to be fucking surf, Instagram bro, do she? It is scary how much he was able to, and that sister who we hated, Monica's sister, but you gotta know, she's like, he's more of an actor. And I gotta say, she called it. She called it.

And yeah. I love how he hangs onto that. One of the reasons why he couldn't make it work with Monica is she was a bitch. He's like, well, it was his sister. And I really think that I knew it. I'm all about family. And I knew I could never make it work

if her sister didn't like me. Just could be a fucking adult and say, like what Monica said, just say you're not into me. Just say it. Just say you're not into me. Say you're not freaking into me. All right, I'm gonna be saved because the gays are here. You have to agree with me.

Who had the best glow up for the reunion? It was Monica. No, no, no, I was thinking guys. Oh, sorry. It was Daniel. Were there women there? think I was thinking guys. Oh, sorry. So it's Daniel. With their women there? I didn't even notice. Monica looked good.

All the girls looked too orange. We didn't like- That's right, the bad life. Monica did look good, but we did not like- The dress was too opera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked like she was singing in an opera gala. Super Austrian.

I actually think of the women, I actually think like makeup and hair wise, I enjoyed Meg. I knew what you were gonna say. Her eyes are so pretty. Her eyes looked really, when she was listening to, what's her name? Chaos Monster, Madison or AKA Poodle in his twenties. Yeah, she and I shared a lot of, I would pick-

Okay, I'm so excited. He called her episode two. I called her episode two. What did you call? That she's an absolute nightmare. Like she's a room wrecker. She's a destroyer of worlds. Okay, Jake, you and I are the same person.

She's a destroyer of worlds. I got it on episode one. You got it on episode one. Yeah, well, I think I got it early too, but I just overlooked that. She was, I mean, just get into her past trauma and supposedly she had framed it as she'd worked through all that.

That person is still there. That hurt little girl. Oh, that person is- She's ready to destroy the world. I mean, her life is, it was the most comically awful of the season. Yeah, it was. I mean, everyone's dead. Yeah.

No one, someone- Even the people that are still alive. She said that her father picked drugs over her on her birthday. It does feel a little me, me, me though. At one point, it's like, my dad picked drugs over me. Yeah. This is the reality. Get over it.

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You know, Joey looked like a stoner caveman. Joey looked like, Joey looked dirty, and so did Ben. So did Ben. Ben's hair looked filthy that he hasn't washed in three weeks. Mason looked fine. He looked puffy.

Ben looked like, but also who else was it? He does have those kind of like. Daniel was a glow up for the men. Oh my God. Okay. I wanted to fuck Daniel. And I had a beard. What are you guys talking about?

Okay, look. I think you guys are so wrong. Look, look, look. Daniel, I thought was gross the whole time. I said he had Kraft singles hands. Daniel or David? Daniel. So he would touch you and it would be like sweaty

and then the point is cold sweat. Right, there's a film left behind. Yeah, there's the film, yes. After he grew that beard, he said he would hit it. And I went, there's something about him now. I don't know, but I think that's because I was starved the whole season for men mostly. The men on the season weren't,

if we're talking about like, you know, you know where you were talking about like being attract, we want to see attractive people. Right, right, right. Yeah. I think the women were beautiful and the men were. I agree. We had fucking.

I was like, Lauren looked beautiful. Lauren looked great. Lauren's makeup was great. The dress was blah. But all the dresses were terrible. The stylist needs to be put in prison. Now, now, see, and she looked like a newscaster. But when you think about the Reverend Wright, Virginia Bucket Esquire, her hair looked appropriate.

The dress was pageanty. We said this. You guys notice that her breasts are almost always out of every garment. Yes. Virginia. Yeah, they were. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK, so Monique, do we want to talk about

Monica and Joey? She basically just says it. We didn't know the gravity of this when we were watching it at the weddings. He was never fucking into her. No. And she expresses it as we'll get into in the reunion, that basically she was like, just not connecting with her feelings. His golden doodle optimism kind of starts to wane

throughout the season. He's like, that's a great way to put it. Hey, that's my joy. It was, yeah. I'm gonna say this now. He's a very sad person and he never lets anyone see it. And he is a he is actually a negative person and he hides behind that view. And sure. And he's extremely I guarantee you he has not been treated he he is clinically depressed but he starts to feel a depression he says but my sister

wheels she would never want me to be depressed like yeah whatever her name is wheels that's my sister wheels that was a showers book he wrote do we remember how wheels how we're going Do we remember how wheels, how- We're going to hell. Do you remember how Chassie passed? Does anybody remember that? No. I don't.

Did what? No, no, you're conflating the sister in a wheelchair. No, he had the wheelchair at his wedding. Right, no, I was thinking about the blind sister too, which I still said was a hat on a hat. I still said love is blind and the sister being blind was a hat on a hat. We reached a moment of like matrix breaking

when we got to that portion and we were just like, what's going on? It was too much. It's too much. I don't, I think that, I think he got on the show saying, you know, it's perfect. Cause my sister's blind. They went, you know, it's perfect because my sister's blind. They went, you have a blind sister. It's perfect. But they don't recognize that it comes off like

an episode of Arrested Development. Like, no, really bizarre. It is definitely an Arrested Development plot line. So did you hear this was like two episodes ago. I forget where Daniel had said that Love is Blind producers had reached out to him. Yes. You are scraping the bottom of the barrel when you're reaching out to Daniel. So to that point, I think Love is Blind at this point with Minnesota casting was not so low that they wouldn't even have cast a male cast member that was blind. Like blind on blind. No, I still can't see you. Feel your face.

Do you feel like Chelsea from Chelsea and Kwame is a bad casting director then? People blame her. She's only part of the casting team. Oh really? This Chelsea was in the comments. People were just, people were telling her she did a bad job.

She was DMing people. Cause she DMed some of our listeners saying, it wasn't me. And I was like, so they are aware they stepped in shit. They are, I hope so. They're super aware. Because it is also like, not only did they have to find people they didn't know it,

but I kept saying, so last season of Love is Blind, they clearly found all the men at like, they just made a deal with 24 hour fitness is because every single guy yeah and talked about a gym right they were also better looking but this season I think they went like they made it like a choice with like the American Baptist Association yeah like a major church this is the most religious season of love is blind we've ever, more than Dallas, more than North Carolina.

More than Charlotte. More than Charlotte. That's actually wild. And it's more than Charlotte. My mother lived in Minneapolis. Like Minneapolis proper has like the third largest game. Yeah. That's why they went suburbs.

They could not find people in the city and they had to go to the suburbs. What is that inclination though? Why would you do that? I mean,ination though? Why would you do that? I mean, why would you do that? There, that's not gonna be good TV. Look, are we all agreeing? Devin's family's a cult, right?

They're worshiping Pico the pig. That is their idol. And every day they pray, they pray to the pig. And I don't know why the pig wasn't in the wedding. Missed opportunity. Missed opportunity, Chassie was there. Wills. Missed opportunity, chassis was there, wheels was there. Wheels was there. Wheels was there.

Yeah, okay. Guys, remind me, what city is the next city? Denver. Denver. It's official. You didn't see them, some straight man threw the football to some other straight man. I saw that. I don't have high hopes for Denver.

I think this is- It should be Tampa fucking Florida. 100%. Tampa. We said that. We said the same thing. And it would be so fucking trashy. Yes.

So like one of the, so not only- Just like over 10 girls going, I love this game. High people and don't forget, crooked teeth. They're so fucked up with their teeth down there. Well, getting back to the end of this failed wedding, Joey and Monica, the reason that I get so frustrated is they go about it so earnestly, and that's boring. We all know that it's bullshit.

So at the end, you would hope that the contestants would be, like, they both look at each other like there is no weight to this at all. They're just like, yeah, you know, yeah, no, it wasn't gonna work out. It wasn't gonna work out. Anyways, it's, it's fine. And they just walk away. Whereas in the first season, I want, I want tears, I want blood, I want a little bit of mud. I want them to actually like, if we're going to be honest about it, let's go like commit to the bit. Right. Who was the, I think she was half Indian. She was adopted.

She let that fucking guy have it on the altar. Oh yeah. Deep tea. Not deep tea. No, no, no. But she just wanted to. I started with a Z. The cutie.

Z. The cutie, the cutie orange. Zenib. Zenib. Yeah. She's fucking flat back. No, she said she was going to reduce him to ashes She denierest fucking people who's ever been on this show

Toilet well, yeah, he was he was a child a man child and a moron but boy she just wanted to destroy Yeah, I can't even remember him. All right, So that's what Monica should have done to Joey. Yeah, she did it at the reunion kind of. But let's get to Devon in Virginia. I don't think she knew at the wedding. I think she had to watch it. This is the first time, which is a good but several like her and Mason, they watched what happened on this show.

And then they realized what had been done to them. And I don't think she knew it then in the way. Monica, she even. Yeah in the way. Monica? She even, yeah, she even, yeah, she mentions it several times. Because if he would have said, because she was rewriting magical thinking, as Poodle says, constantly. Because if he would have said, yes, I do, I think she would have said yes. Totally. She would have.

She would have said yes. And then been miserable. Jake, I like your theory because I hadn't thought about it that Joey is actually a miserable son of a bitch. He is a miserably sad person. Complex on complex. Something. I would have gotten married if it wasn't for your bitch cunt sister. Yeah. We'll have to be. Yeah, no, I was really your sister the whole time. So many sisters this season. Okay. And Jake's sister, who we called a 50 foot giantess with oozing sores. Yeah. Who is eating

people. Talk about the invisible man. I would say we need to see her but at the end of the day, we don't care. We don't. Because the image he conjured up was scarier than anything. Right. How do we know that he's not lying and just putting her out there a lot of people thought that he was she's She's a figment of his imagination. She's real but the con my god talked about that's why she His Brad Pitt to his Edward Norton. Yes. Yeah He has to shoot himself in the in the jaw I don't remember.

I think you guys, Dylan and I reached the same conclusion on this. You're coming on a reality game show, dating show. Does there need to be any separation from hookups prior to going on the dating show? My answer is no, you can fuck someone that I've before. Absolutely not. Yes.

Yeah, of course not. But if you're going into a pool of people like, I mean, Ben and Devin and I think you're dead on. They must have contacted some congregation. It says like, hook us up with biased people. You get there in the first day. You want to make a good impression for casting, a good impression. We all attend Holy Brotherhood. Yes. I perform my, I am always at my best when I still have a man semen inside. Wow, why would I not hook up the night before? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like a performance enhancing drug. Exactly. It is.

You're shot up with semen. Yeah, right, right. It's like a runner's goo. A runner's high. Okay, so Buckets and Devin. Oh, yes. What do you guys call her again? Miss Virginia Buckets. The Reverend Wright Virginia Buckets Esquire. The right Reverend Virginia Buckets and Devin. Oh, yes. What do you guys call her again? Miss Virginia Buckets. The Reverend, right?

Virginia Buckets. The right Reverend Virginia Buckets Esquire. I have one. And maybe even PhD after this season. I have a single note about this wedding. Somewhere between her getting her makeup done and her dress on, she killed a peacock to create that bridal bouquet. Oh, oh, y'all. We reached out saying,

someone tell us what this bouquet is with this black ribbon. I didn't track it. And the feathers. Well, you're not gay, Dylan. And the- Yeah, you didn't get it. It's fine.

That's all right. It's fine. Because you're a little gay. A little bit. Yeah, you've had a pinky up there. I know. Oh yeah. Yeah.

No, I know. Fucking hurt. I don't know. I can't relate at all. Yeah, yeah. But I pinky up there, I know. Oh yeah. No, I know. Fucking hurt, I can't relate at all. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know, at first I thought maybe, is this, you know, like we've seen on Love is Blind, like I forgot which couple, but they jumped a broom. So I thought, is this a cultural thing, or is this something I'm not aware of?

There's just a hideous. And I Googled and Googled, and not one of our sissies told us to. I think it was something that His mother who looked like remember the show Webster and remember the the wife they called ma'am Yeah, um she had this red short red hair, and I called this ma'am. Look up Webster's mom Webster's mom I'm getting a beer Deep cut for my gaze that were children of the 80s?

She was in Porky's and she played a prostitute Half-maiden ma'am. Wait, okay. Hang on a second. Just look up Webster and mom. So, okay I'm glad y'all look up things on the air like we do. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because we don't have a researcher Okay, this is a manual Lewis on the air like we do. Yeah, oh yeah. Because we don't have a researcher. Okay, this is Emanuel Lewis? Emanuel Lewis and Emanuel Lewis and his mom were in the show who he called ma'am. And he said in an episode, I think it was second season,

she wanted to know why he called her ma'am and he said because it's the closest thing to the word. To mom, I remember that. And is this like early? 1985. Okay, So this is like racist eighties. Totally. Yeah. So, so okay. So this is like the most racist fetishistic white couple. Yes. Ops a little black kid. And weirdly it's also feels like because Evan Devin is biracial. Yeah. So ma'am, that's obviously the grandfather clock was a door. It was amazing.

Yeah, I remember that. Because when he was robbed one time, he hid in the grandfather clock. And the football player, George Kostopoulos, was that his name? Oh my god. Did I just name check of? I think on the show, it was Kostopoulos,

but in real life, I don't know what it was. Something Greek. Gary Coleman, Emanuel Lewis. Same time period, similar. Were they both tiny? Yeah, different diseases though. Different diseases. I knew that too.

Is Emmanuel Lewis dead too? No, he's still alive. No, he's still alive. Do you guys watch that doc on Gary? No. Two parter. Two parter. You said that so lost and I'm just dying.

His fucking wife killed him. Two parter. His wife killed him. Oh, I think so. I'm just gonna watch because I'm a little obsessed with Gary Coleman's him. His wife killed him. Oh, I think so. Watch, because I'm a little obsessed with Gary Coleman's life. That docu-sweetie's what's talking about. Emanuel Lewis is 54 years old.

Good for her. Do you remember when I'm old? It was Mr. T. He got angry at Webster because Michael Jackson was carrying him around like he was a baby. Why you, he's been carrying him around like a little kid. He's 50 years old. Why you are. There's a lot of things quote problematic with that sentence.

Not that you said it, but that it occurred. Should we talk to your producer right now? Yeah. Yeah. Cut it. Okay. That was very Alec Baldwin in the ship robe scene of 30 Rock. Yeah. But I loved it. Great Mr. T. It was a fantastic Mr. T. OK, so she is walking down the aisle to go get married to a man who has said.

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Yeah. I think he probably had some kind words for the J's around her. I am convinced as soon as she said that, the things that he said off camera would turn your hair wet. And I think they were said in like a. He like a composed, like meaningful way. Like this is me in the way that someone from a evangelical cult says, I'm saying it with love, right? Well, he said on my north star, she said, oh, my God.

I yelled the most toxic thing that was set at the reunion was Devin saying, I love everyone. Yeah. Yeah. And I went, boy, I love everyone. Yeah. Yeah. And I went, boy, I've heard that a lot. Yeah. I've heard that a lot of, I love everyone, but- There's a very rigid hierarchy of hate in my heart. You know what I hate?

I hate sin. Yeah. Yeah. And you're sinning by doing that. I love everyone, but all Muslims are going to hell She this is a good example of somebody who like really is playing the role I mean she had to have known that she wanted nothing to do with this guy The second they started to scrape the surface of this stuff, but at the end she's throwing she printed out a prenup

Well, but you know she yes, she knew. And also she said this like four or five times. She said, I've dated terrible guys. She's had a really bad history with guys. He was the best she had ever dated. And the reason I say that is because- Mostly older, I think. What freaked me out- Older guys were bad. At that wedding episode?

Yeah, real bad. What freaked me out of her, and there was- Who treated her like shit. Like shit. Before she got married, all of her family like holding her hand and saying- They're like,

we can't believe this happened to you. God has got this. And basically saying, don't fuck this up, because this is the best thing you've ever had. Virginia's finally getting married. And Miss Buckethead's just crying going, oh God. This hateful man isethead's just crying going, oh God.

This hateful man is your age and he loves you, okay? You're not one of those people that he doesn't like. This man, we can see his hairline receding by the minute. You know, when you see the difference of like, it really is apparent, this is, we don't have to get into it, but I have to mention his name. But when we see Ollie from Love is Blind UK,

which we covered, I don't know if y'all did. I watched it. Good season. But when you see how well his barber did his fade, and then you look at Devin Bucket, and you're like, oh. Have you been to a black barber in your life? Your barber fucked you over.

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a tough scene up there. His head. Yeah, yeah. I was with you. I was with you. So it's it's a tough scene up there. His his head. Yeah, yeah. I was with you. I was with you. So it's worth mentioning, though. So we have Sarah and Ben.

They don't work out. And then we also have Devin. Well, the first three couples, Joey and Monica. But two gave it a shot to see or at least it seemed like Virginia, even after this, not being on the same seems like everybody gave it a shot.

They were like, I'd like to see, let's date. Yeah. And then he ghosted her. I guess we'll get into that with the reunion. Sarah seemed like two different. Well, everybody ghosted. Anyways, I was content with the, uh, the shot and Freud and the downfall of this decision. The little girl going, what's happening? Oh, oh, oh! Like that was right. Oh, and the father is like, the father's like,

he said no. He said no, baby. It was like a syndrome fences. And it was. Jesus. Someone's dad had their mouth wide open to a lunch box. Baby, she said no. The one, the other dad who looked like he just drank a lot.

No, wait, no, that was, who was it, the white guy other dad who looked like he just drank a lot. No wait. No, that was Who was it the white guy with the red red face who just looks like? The that was that was um Daniels no that was no that was um Fuck no those I think Ben's dad Ben's dad Yeah, that checks out. Checks out. I have a question for you guys, what your theories on this.

I get that love is blind, you're under contract, you need to get up on the altar and invite some family members. Yeah. Why are there fourth cousins showing up to this thing when you plan on saying no? That's a really good point. You know what I mean?

Like just go, all right, my mom and dad. A free catered dinner. Yeah. Yeah, I think probably free food. Free go, all right, my mom and dad. A free catered dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there you go. I think probably free food. Free food will get people there. Oh. That's the only reason I got a wedding.

This show is so fucking pathetic. That these family members, that there are fathers that walk their daughters down aisles. That's what blows my mind. For this fucking bullshit. Maybe Joey was smart to skateboard down it. Yeah, that's how it should be treated. The grandparents too, like they should be no part of this.

OK. No, they could die. Leave your grandmother alone. She doesn't have to co-sign you marrying a stranger. She's not going to understand this. They're giving you fucking rings from like 200 years ago. Oh yeah, they're not going to get that. Don't do that. OK, so we end the finale with

I know that a lot of our fans said that the family stuff was very sweet. You're referring to Dan Taylor and Daniel. I don't give a fuck. That's what I was going to say. Like, OK, so, OK, they're they're sweet and they actually, I think, could work for a

while. And that's great. And I think everyone wants to see them again. It's a great starter marriage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or as we call them, JoJo Siwa and Young Deidre. I say Deidre Hall. I say Young Becky Pothass. Becky Pothass.

And I don't know either of those. Deidre Hall, she's on Days of Our Lives. She was on that show. She was Marlena on Days of Our Lives. She's on that show with Corky. I don't know who you're talking about. Ba ba ba, life goes on. No, no, no, no. Deep cut.

No, she was on the show Our House with Wilford Brimley. This is so wrong. She was on the show Our House with our home. Deidre Hall is a great poll. Right? She looks a lot like her. Yeah. Wilford Brimley, when he was in Cocoon,

was the same age as- As Tom Cruise. Yes. No, Wilford Brimley when he was in Cocoon was the same age as Tom Cruise. Yes. No, Wilford Brimley was in our house. You're thinking of Deidre Hall in our house with Patty, with Patty LaPone was in, um, life goes on. Pat O'Pone is in, but Deidre Hall, Deidre Hall was in our house with Wilford Brimley. People are screaming in their cars. I'm friends with Patti LuPone. Oh, OK. OK. All right. All right. I'm going to need a moment. Wait, who?

Who is it? I want to Google that name to what? Glitter. Dylan just asked to pay the poem was I'm going to be OK with that. But I need to know why pay the phones in your phone. Is it some kind of Italian connection or

work relationship? But we remain friends. He does. Oh, he does it. He has her phone number. Tell me is she fucking amazing? Okay. By the way, I think her name spelled with an I. That was, I type it.

It's not with a, it's not with an S, Lupone. L-U-P- No, Patty with the I, right? It is with an I. What's she from? I just want you to text her. Everything. Everything on Broadway. She's in the Hollywood Bowl Hall of Fame? I just didn't want you to text her. Everything. Everything on Broadway.

She's in the Hollywood Bowl Hall of Fame. I'm resisting the urge not to belt you right now. No, you're just exerting. But you know what? You're exerting your heterosexuality. You're exerting your heterosexuality in a helpful way. Yeah, I'll tell you what, it's my truth, and I saw, I saw shucked.

Okay. I refuse to see that piece of garbage. Here's the thing. You know what? I'm sure that I'm sure there's a place for that. I'm sure there's a place for the type of musical theater. It is homophobic to me. Okay.

Because I don't I can't handle a thousand corn jokes in one show. You've never seen a corn cob you haven't sat on. Yeah. Well, that's true. But that that show to me, it was written. It felt like it was like a homophobic joke played on people by people writing a musical. Can I tell you something? What we got out of there? I said that was overtly homophobic. That's what I said. Okay, let's

get to the reunion. Even gays in it. All right. The reunion four hours later, Four hours later. We made it. Welcome to the Love is Blind Season 8 reunion, they say in concert. It's such a bad season. There's such dregs. I have said that I want,

who do I want to host the show? David Spade? No, the documentarian. Oh, Herzvog. Verner Herzvog. Verner Herzvog! Yeah. If you look into the eyes of the bear, it is just hunger. I would like him to helm this.

Taylor, did you have a, did you know you would take Daniel for your husband? Do you imagine in the middle of all them when Madison is pulling up the receipts and stuff, he's just like But anyways, I hate There they're not you know, the love is blind UK job are great If you haven't seen grizzly man grizzly man's incredible. We reference it all the time It's amazing grizzly man. Grizzly man is one of the best documentaries out there. Is that a porn? It is a documentary, you rude. About a guy on meth that was kind of a cultural phenomenon

for about 10 minutes until a bear only left his fucking finger. Oh, I remember that. He was very good with bears. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. So am I. Until he wasn't. No, he was exquisite with bears, okay? It's just when you are around bears a lot,

there are some squirrely ones. And- There are some squirrely ones. This works for gay bears or real bears? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are a lot of squirrely bears and squirrely. There's a lot of squirrely bears. Trust me.

Yeah, but he was mauled to death. Yeah, next thing you know, you're dicked in a cage. And his girlfriend was eaten as well, and you can hear their screams on- Oh, wow. Yeah, on audio tape. But anyways, so the whole team is really here first. You start with Daniel and Taylor stance that they give for this ridiculous. It's so unearned

the lights the noise like the crowd. Do you guys go to AK bar? I used to Yeah, yeah, I got my phone still in there last year. Okay. I mean, I was making out with a guy. I used to see the bar in Silver Lake on the corner. Yeah, well you said there are a lot of gays in Silver Lake and I was thinking about what are the gay bars in Silver Lake? I'll probably go there maybe on Saturday. Yeah, because my birthday is on Wednesday,

so some friends are taking me out on Saturday. Oh, happy birthday. Thank you. Do you ever go to the 4100? What's that? Right on the corner. It used to be that. Is that it? Is it still there? Oh my God, is's that? Right on the corner. It used to be that. Is it still there?

Oh my God, is it there? It's fucking disgusting. They built an outside area. It's right next to that Jiffy Lube on Sunset. They used to have a gay night. I don't know if it's still around, but I used to go there when they had a gay night. It's a really sticky place.

I enjoy Otter Pop at the Virtual. That one's good. Oh, that is a sleazy place. That's why I enjoy it. Okay. So my carpool buddy was Bob the Gay Dwarf back in 2000. We worked at the same insurance company and Bob was having fun. And he used to go to one of those places. That sounded familiar. Bob the Gay Dwarf. He used to lower his bottom onto a bunch of cocks in one of these places in Silver Lake.

And I used to hear all the fun stories. Like from a pulley? That's right. Lower him down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the heavens. Wow. Did you just?

Hopefully it was accompanied by some music of some sort. How industrial. And he'd say, this is LA 25 years ago. He would tell me, like, last night the place got raided. They were still doing raids is LA 25 years ago, he would tell me like last night the place got raided. They were still doing raids there 25 years ago. Well, you know, if you're into that, it's gonna be kind of, it's gonna be not safe to be gay again, so pretty soon,

Jake and I are gonna have to ask your wives to come with us to gay bars, so that way when they raid us, they can dance with us. That's right, all you guys talking like old West Hollywood. Yeah. I that way when they rate us, they can dance with us. Are you guys worried? I was talking like old West Hollywood. Yeah. I think California is pretty safe, but I think we're okay in California. Yeah. But if I was if I was like in the in the in a state that was like super.

I mean, Supreme Court's about to hear a thing about conversion therapy. I would think about moving. I would think about moving to a state that was less so. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I would I would have to cuz state law is gonna try is gonna trump all federal law after a while Yeah, and here comes this fucking this fucking filthy cis white and he's like, I don't know what everybody's complaining about That's him. Yeah, you're like buried and everything is fine You fucker. How nice. Okay, so Vanessa says that Taylor is literally glowing with love which is incorrect. She knows she's orange

No, the face is orange her lips. I'm sorry. I got choked her lip filler is better, but her I used to do makeup shocker, gay stereotype insert, but they did this contouring around her eyes at the top of the bridge of her nose. And it makes her look like she is one of those like half Klingon, half human people from Star Trek Discovery. We also, what was her name? Debbie LaBelle, what was her name?

Was it? The one from Days of Our Lives. Did you? Did you? Hall? Did you? Hall? Did you? Debi LaBelle? Debi LaBelle? I knew her in college. Debi LaBelle is Deidre Hall's nemesis. Debi LaBelle grew up in Mississippi and our whole life always lost. Deidre Hall. She died a prostitute, not even in New York, in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Hattiesburg, Mississippi.

She's a very real person. Yeah, and she said one day, she died and the last thing she said was, fuck Diedre Hall. To be fair, we did not like her outfit either. It just, no. No, not Vanessa, Taylor's. It was, no, no, not Vanessa. Taylor's. I didn't, I liked Meg's.

It was too blue, but really blue. But all the dresses, I give zero blindfolds. All the dresses. Zero blindfolds? The dresses were bad. I didn't like any of them. The dresses were bad. I didn't like Vanessa Lachey's.

And can we talk about, I think the reason they didn't have any makeup on the men because they put it all on Nick Lachey's face. Nick Lachey was trying to match Vanessa's skin tone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we all? They were like, sorry, we're out. We don't have any more. So we call her boy band and tipsy because she's a drunk.

I have to say the last three seasons, something's happened, maybe it's just because she got that new, whatever one hour television show. She seems like she might have cut off the sauce season, something's happened. Maybe it's just because she got that new, whatever one hour television show. She seems like she might have cut off the sauce because she looks way better now. Well, people are doing these substance procedures. That's true.

You know. Wow. The substance like the movie. Oh. Yeah, I mean people, I mean the Oscars was wild. I really do think, I really do think she also talks less because I know she is very sensitive to the hate she gets online.

So she lets, I don't know if you guys saw this, the last two reunions, he's done more of the talking. You know what? For her? Does that correspond to the baby? Yes. So Dylan, that's exactly right. It was the baby, she's like,

I wanna know where your baby is. Yeah. So all started there. When she got hate from that, the next season, they started having the losers from the previous season ask questions and do the heavy lifting. That's exactly what happened. Agreed.

No, so she lets him do a lot of the heavy lifting. And then she does the follow-up questions, which are kind of the things where she seems concerned, but not to, and I understand she's a woman, she's a woman producer, she's a woman in power, so she's gonna get flack. What most people had the problem with was her being so interested in these women's uteruses.

And honestly, it was gross. Yeah, it was weird. And people hated that, but I will say what she was probably grabbing onto was Bachelor Nation, which they're pointing themselves in how many kids get shit out of those. Which is so fucking like quiver full bullshit. It's the most arbitrary bizarre thing. I helped put two people together to create a baby, so therefore I am responsible for it.

Yeah, you're not. Like a weird TV godmother. It's weird because she usually is a lot more like, yes, queen. Now when it comes to babies. I like her as a person. I just actually, I think it'd be fun to hang out with her. Yeah.

I'd like to have drinks with her. Neither of them are good hosts. But she's not a good host. But like listening to a podcast of her talking about love is blind, I bet she would have interesting things to say. No, she could hang. She's smart.

She's funny. But it's just as a host, she's have interesting things to say. She's smart, she's funny, but it's just as a host, she's just not a great host. She'd have to be a politician if she was ever sat down and interviewed about this show. Because she did good on the second season because she kind of, you could tell she was an actual on the second reunion. We didn't love her on the first, but the second one, you could tell that she really watched the show. It felt like she was a fan. And now I feel like they're just there for the check. Do you remember that timeline though

between the first season, which I don't think they knew they had a hit on their hands and then the second season, it felt like an eternity. And what we didn't realize was they were scaling this show. Netflix was like, oh, we're gonna do it in fucking India. We're gonna do it in Germany. We're gonna do it in UK. I don't wanna, we've done this all season.

So dead horse a little bit but um one of the reasons the first season was so amazing is because it was a perfect balance of heart in lauren and the robot yeah and then there was like then there was carlton the diamond fucker well there was fuck so there was. So there was some crazy people, but there was also just pure fucking trash, right? The tank mechanic was like, she needed a husband because she was 50 grand in debt. Oh, yes.

Who was that? Who was that? Amber and Barnett. Yes. And they're still together. There was Wine Hag. There was- Wine Hag?

Wine Hag? And her dog. And her dog. And her dog had just drunk. Please mom, can I have some more of your wine? She likes the wine. She just- And her dog, her dog just drunk. She like, she like the wine. She just. It was the best season.

The best. It was the best season hands down. And then season four came where we had Irina and Zach and Blaise. Oh. That was, that was, I will say. I liked, I liked the, that, what was that? That was Seattle, right?

Yes, that was Seattle. Yes. One and seven were my favorite seasons. I really liked season seven. So you love our season. Can't remember who was on it, but I remember I said that on the podcast. I did like it as well.

Yeah. Do they, sorry to just digress even further. It's fine, I'm high. I'm happy. By the way, we have the Golden Goblets and I think we should have a drink with those. Yes. Should we take a...

Why do we need to have a drink with these? Because it's love is blind, bitch. I don't feel the need either, so I'm gonna do it. I don't give a shit, I wanna do it. Do you wanna drink in the Golden Goblet? Sure. No, I do. Jake, you always tell your feelings.

I wanna drink in the Golden Goblet. I know, I'm too- Yeah, whether you ask for them or not. I've been accused by my family of talking too much about how I feel. No, that's- Matt, let's go make the drinks. These two will talk.

Okay, well- Make me another. We'll hold down the fort and break this goddamn reunion down. Okay, so they roll a carousel- Just some vodka with some sparkling water. How many golden goblets do we have? Three.

He's not hiding another one? You won't drink out of one. Okay. I'll have one at home next time I ask. We'll bring them. So they roll a carousel of pictures of these two? Yes. As though, this is the problem that I have with the earnestly approaching there.

No one is interested in seeing. No one. Not a single soul is interested in them in inflatable July 4th costumes? Bumping into one another? You know what it feels like? It feels like an ad for some type of Christian clothing catalog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they all, it's a bad, it makes you feel bad

watching it and them doing like selfies to the ear, like they had to do all this just to make all these people happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And for that, to come out of that, to come out of that and have him say, Nick Lachey say, love the patriotism.

I'm just like, I want to puke. Yeah. I don't know what fucking show I'm watching. My stomach during the whole section. We talk about his tattoos, the tattoo eyes. Yeah, this was so bonkers to me because one, that's a big commitment. If this does not work out and you have missionary with somebody. Yes The white the the the eyes of your ex-wife are going to be staring down at every other partner you have after this and also

There's a way to do eyes very prettily and it was this weird like cut off at the bottom I don't know what tattoo artist this was. It was disgusting. It looked like an ad for an late 80s movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that was... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was it was revolting. I did not like. Okay, so we get to Devin in Virginia and this as I mentioned, favorite part of the episode. I'm not going to talk on his beliefs, but why I can say is that I don't hate Muslims or gays. I'm, I'm pro-choice. Oh, that's brave of you. Thank you. Thank you. I will say, it was the most, and not that I didn't think he deserved it to be left on his own island, but she was just kind of like, just so we're clear. Here's what he's like. I will never say

a word about what he believes because he never really told me, he told me off camera, but here's what I believe. Yeah, I don't hate Muslims or the trans community. I don't hate trans people, Muslims, and I believe abortion should be legal. And I'm not telling you, he believes the exact opposite.

Most political season of Love is Blind we've ever had. Because they had to be. That's the way life is now, sadly. I guess it is, but yeah, it's a built-in bummer, but I don't want, I don't really want to see scholarly people talk about politics. I definitely don't want to see these people talk about politics.

We know you guys watched The Bachelor for a while too, right, or at least The Golden Bachelor. One of the things that ruined it, and we always say these issues should be discussed just not in our dumb reality show. Yeah, agreed. Exactly, but here's the thing. Issues like they were discussing here.

It's gotta come up. Are not even like what I would call like kind of like surface politics. These are core issues which most of the people in Bachelor would already agree on. These were issues like the dignity of all human beings. And which when there was when Devin was saying, I believe I can be in a relationship. We don't have to agree on everything Yeah, that was all fucking you do have to agree on whether Abortion is murder or not. That was such a weird detached like it

Jesus see it's a Jesus. It's that it's that why is that psychology? Cuz he genuinely the psychology evangelical religion is don't think about it too much. Just believe, just follow. But it's like I remember when I worked at the clinic counter at Quell Spring Small in Oklahoma. I did. I worked there. Those listening, it's not Quell like Q.U.E.L.L. I know it's quail. Yeah. Why would I say I don't know what that word means.

He didn't say it like 12 Springs Mall. I had to I had to follow up every time. It's right off Memorial and the Kilmacht return hike, just kind of North Oklahoma City on the board. But anyway, close to Edmond. But anyway, so to give you various first of all, I remember this woman, a woman, she was 25 at the time because I was like 20 or 26 and I was like 21 and she said you know I'd worked there like a month and she said I'm so I moved

there after college I was in Oklahoma City for like eight months and she said you know her name's Leslie she said I am so glad that I ended up hiring you and I said me too sugar I really enjoy working here she's like oh I'm just so glad I didn't listen to my youth group. And I went, huh? No, you're her Sunday school class. Yeah, her Sunday school youth are like her in the youth or class. And she went into her Sunday school class and said, Hey, y'all, I interviewed this person to work. And I'm pretty sure he's gay. Should I hire

him? Not not that she knew. She was pretty sure. I probably reminded her of a choir director at church. And she said, and they told me no, but I did anyway. And I'm so glad. So glad I hired you. It really is, it's like this weird cordoned off kind of. It's the same thing.

And I remember this other woman said. But I love everybody. That I worked the clinic counter with said, one point this girl was in college. Anyway, this girl named Monica was going to college and she's registered for classes and she was asking me and Shannon, cause we were working at the counter at the same time.

She said, what classes should I take? And she said, ooh, world religions, that could be good. And I said, yeah, that would be interesting. And Shannon said, no, you cannot do that. Cause if you learn about another faith, then it hurts your own. And then you question, and that's how the devil gets inside you.

And she- That's how the devil got inside me. And you know what? Didn't even matter. And he never left. It didn't matter cause four years later, Monica died in childbirth. So she should have just taken what she wanted to.

Can I give a different- Bitch, she did die in childbirth. Can I give a different perspective on the non-politics talk? Yes. So having fucked around here for 25 years, dating girls, living with them, I have to say, well, way to toot your own horn. Yeah. Jesus. I'm just saying that I never talked about politics with anybody.

Because you assumed. You assumed that I get I maybe I was just an idiot that didn't give a damn or whatever. I was checked out or busy thinking about whatever. It's also Los Angeles. But I also don't remember them bring it up either. And I've lived with girls in like politics was never a I'm just I'm trying to give some of these idiots some grace.

It's a different time. Like I think that Ben, for example, likely believe, you know, we talked about it when you're sitting across from two lesbians and you say, I'm socially liberal, but I'm fiscally conservative. Usually you're going to vote the money side of things. So we'll just say, so I'm not sure if he is like active in his conservatism or he's just conservative and he doesn't really give a shit about politics. Like back when you were dating, you were like, I don't really give a shit about politics and what we weren't in a fervor,

but now we're in a fervor, so it's gonna come up more. And that's what I'm saying, it's like a different time. Like I lived my first 20 years of dating of it really wasn't, we were actually told as I was growing up, you don't on dates, you don't discuss religion, politics or sex. Like that's a different time now. Clinton was just banging people in the Oval Office

and Bush was just dropping bombs on people. Like we were just enjoying our lives. It was a better time. It was a better time. And you know what? It's interesting because we now, because all of us, you expect people, when you go out with people in Los Angeles,

we all have a little bit of shared values, but they don't have that. And especially, because they're not, a lot of them aren't from Minneapolis. They're from out there where they have a different way of life. Yeah. And.

A lot of farm. It's like if they did love is blind Los Angeles, but cast people from Santa Clarita. I mean, yeah. And someone's listening to Santa Clarita like, oh, fuck the hills. We have the hill from Huntington Beach or some kind of beach. They say it's LA. So, so these are kind of the issues. The other thing is, you know, they're having these conversations and like people like Devin and Ben can say, you know, they're having these conversations and like people like Devin and Ben can say, you know, I love everyone and I never really thought about it. But Sarah is saying, even though it's a little bit of white saber complex,

but she's saying, but this is my sister's life. Yeah. So she can say that. And then it's so funny when they, when they would say things like this, that both those men would just kind of go, uh, okay. and they would they wouldn't really understand that. Like Sarah said, there's no curiosity of why they thought that way. Well, Ben, Ben is a is an handsome guy who never really had to think about anything. He told that remember that story. He said, you know, I got out with a perfect day is I got out of bed. And then my dad said I

was the best boy in the world. And then we had like a hang session and then I went and played baseball and then I fell asleep while all my dad's arm and he's like, you're such a good boy. But I played more fucking baseball. And I went, yeah, I didn't have a life like that as a little gay boy. And also like when you're, when you're talking about like perfect days and you go back to when you have to wonder if my father loved me. Me too, Jake. I mean, I think I've talked to the talking on our show.

I was like, that was such a foreign experience to me when he talked about his I'm like, just playing ball all day, just playing ball. He's like, he's like, my friends and I were like, we were like pulling pranks to each other and I was like that I fell asleep thinking how much my dad loved me and I was like what? You're right to the fact that it took so long to have a perfect like I had a perfect day last week Yeah, when you're an adult and someone's like what's your idea of a perfect day? Hopefully like you pull from like adult stuff Yeah, and not fucking he's like

Then we did this and my mom made Totino's pizza rolls. It was great. I got too high and Instacart ordered vanilla Oreos and double stuffed chocolate Oreos. I had three different guys in one day. It was awesome. Let's be adults about this, right? You know, postmating Oreos and banging people all day.

Thank you. These are adult contemporary. Sometimes you can Instacart orders and get banged from your Instacart. Yeah, I did that. Yeah. Yeah, I ordered groceries and he brought me groceries. Am I right to say that it happens like it can. Sorry if this is a. Are you calling gay men slutty or? No, no, no, I'm just I'm a little concerned about this coming off

as ignorant, but does it happen like quick with you? With the gays? Like do things just happen so fast? Go ahead. I have, when I'm post-mating things or ordering things online, I usually have an agenda that doesn't involve sex. But I think like hooking up sex-wise,

he just needs to see their equipment and then he's good to go. Oh, you mean hookups? Yeah. Like, first of all, if someone came to my door for delivery, I would never say, even if it was like Ryan Gosling, I was like, I'm here for a grocery order. I have a rest of my day to go on.

Right, right. But if I'm doing things for a purpose, if I'm going on Grindr, it's different. I have a purpose. But it doesn't take a lot for him. Whereas I'm a little more demisexual. Here we go. I'm so demisexual someone can show up at my door and I'll bend over. Well, demisexual needs, it can be a varying degree for different people, but I need to have a little bit of emotional connection. Yeah. So like the emotional connection was the guy handing him a bag. Well, no, he came up, I went downstairs.

They touched, they briefly touched fingers. I had a lot of bags and one of my, one of my 12 packs of Dr. Pepper had broken and he was holding it. And that's all it takes. And it's very sweet. Yeah. He said, do you want to carry up? And he carried it up and he came with me in my hand.

I said, would you like a drink? They said, sure. Can you imagine? Where does that trade off at? Sure. And I gave him a Waterloo, which I love a Waterloo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gave him Waterloo.

He said, oh, this is good. We talked about Waterloo. I said, oh, great. I said, are you from LA? This is the part where I just go no. In my kitchen. This is pretty romantic. And then he's like, I'm like, oh, I said, are you from LA? This is the part where I just go, no, in my kitchen. This is pretty romantic. And then he's like, I'm like, oh, I'm originally from Oklahoma.

He's like, oh, that's why your accent sounded so cute and smiled at me. And that's all I needed. That's OK. And then that's all the demisexual. And then he banged me like a fish marker, a fish monger in a Boston market. Now, what happens after we're finished? Is you tip him? Is there talk? That's what I asked, Dylan.

Is there talk? What's the pull of talk? I just said thank you. Well, he was getting alert on his phone for deliveries. So he probably didn't want to get a bad review. So he left and then I think I did end up tipping him. But funny thing, he still fucked up my order. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A man will fuck up your order. And the biggest crime there is why did I tip you before you fucked up my order? I know, right? They had fucked you. I know. But there's a thing with shopping that you don't want men to do it, the Instacarting stuff.

Yeah, if I get a woman, I know that it's gonna come correct. The men, there are some men who know what they're doing. They're usually with a woman who's helping them shop. Yes, yes, yes. I have found that most men who are doing it, they'll send you a thing, is this the same thing? They're like, you ordered, you wanted like pineapple and a can, here's a picture of a pineapple

Is that gonna work for you? And then there when you're getting these things? I know we got to get back to the show, but the specificities and the margins of certain food products It's night and day. It's not I can't have you get this flavor. That's similar to this flavor, but it's not that flavor You fucking don't know To do this in our lives. Don't send a man to do a woman's job. I'm gonna suggest, I do this all the time, it drives Poodle crazy.

I'm gonna suggest a really great idea and we'll never have time for it. I'm gonna hate you for this. But I really wish we had time to do like a weekly podcast where you just ask us questions about gay life and we ask you questions about straight life. Yeah, I would love that. Because I don't understand a lot of what straight life life. I don't understand a lot of it.

It makes no sense to me. I think that could be an amazing coming together. Like, why is it so hard for you all to date, to hit on women in places? I don't get it. It's never hard for me. It's not hard for straight men to hit on women. Oh, it's hard. It's I don't like the transactional nature of the whole thing.

It makes me very uncomfortable. Maybe you're demisexual's I don't like the transactional nature of the whole thing. Makes me very uncomfortable. Maybe you're demisexual because I don't. I for sure am demisexual. There we go. So yeah. See, I'm demisexual when I. No, you're demisexual once you see their dick is seven inches. That's all you care about. And then I'm demi.

All right, where are we? Christina, we're back. We are. We're going to speed through a lot of this. I think we finished. Did we finish Devin and Virginia? She said that the one thing I want to say about the the honorable. The Reverend, the right Reverend Virginia Virginia buckets her right reverend Virginia bucket Is she a square that square? Yes evidently Devin got a check

Have you just I just comes down to money. He just Was a grand from his mother's boss. Yes Yeah, gives a thousand dollars for a reality TV show wedding? Yeah. It's quite a boss. It felt weird. Also, what for her, it felt like she, he was hiding money from her and it was an issue with trust.

He said, I was waiting to see if the marriage was gonna happen or not. No, no. That was a bullshit answer. Well, what's true, that's like kind of like a, there's two, I'm looking for the word, but I'm a little high right now. But when he says I was waiting for the wedding

to see if it was gonna happen or not, that's his like bullshit answer, but it's the same as the true answer. He was just gonna wait and then. That is actually the same, yeah but it's the same as the true answer. He was just going to wait. And then that is actually the same. Yeah, it's the same thing. And so that took me way too long to say, but he was trying to pocket the money. I am not defending Devin, but we are recapping a show. So I do want to like at least say she had said makes lays out the case

why he's a fucking douchebag. Yeah. One of the cases was that he was talking to his ex-girlfriend. They actually use this as a trailer teaser of the cases was that he was talking to his ex-girlfriend. They actually use this as a trailer teaser point, which is that he was getting texts on his phone. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that one didn't pan out. This didn't hold water for me. I agree. I agree as well. They were friends. Yes, it felt a little... I think she did come to this. She feels burned by him and she started, she had more time to think about it. He ghosted her basically, even though she said,

he said he ghost, she ghosted him. Kind of like the Monica principle. Monica realized everything got pissed. What happened after, I don't know if you saw this. Who can keep track of these back and forth? As soon as she said no, his entire family turned on him or turned on her. You know, it's how the mom was so

loving and was like, and she's like, I don't understand why and so why would you go on this show and not marry someone? So Miss Virginia buckets did not like that. So she was coming to excoriate and she said in the end, which is so true. It's for her culture like she said, but also for this evangelical, you take care of men. You just do it. You take care of men because women, we talked about this on our show, it kind of blew some

of our listeners minds because they didn't know this because women in evangelical culture are left with the sin of Eve and what Eve did in the garden of chose she was the what did you say that was bit she she she the snake gave her the fruit and she accepted it she accepted the fruit and because of that she this the the serpent said I will give you pains in childbirth I will give God said you'll have pains in childbirth for accepting that a penance. And you're like your menstrual cycle. And it's really it's all and you can tell his family is all built in. And it's so weird that ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Ma'am doesn't look to me like somebody like she just looks like a high school basketball coach.

She didn't give lesbian gym teacher. No, I think I think I'm loves the Lord because she loves vulva. Yeah, no, that's really. Oh, yeah. That she loves like a lot of push. No, is is you you walked into that house and there were chachkis everywhere. And you and you saw her talking and you saw the black father. And you're like, there's a story. She is so upset about eggs right now because she can't buy all those eggs for

her Easter. There was also an Easter tree. I don't know if y'all clocked that there was an Easter tree. I didn't see in the whole house is just Easter. An Easter tree Dylan is what happens when people leave a decorative tree up all year long that they use for different holidays. And they put different colored eggs on it. It is an abomination.

It's terrible. And they need to be expunged from this planet. Listen, I want to say one last thing. Her third reason why he was a douchebag was he didn't carry some shit up the stairs. Yes, that's just petty. And I've been guilty of that. My wife's car pulls up with some Ralph's groceries and I don't care about the car.

It's one of those moments though, where you're in the like early on in the relationship and somebody does something where you're like, whoa. She was right. He's gonna do that the rest of there. But it was funny that she brought it up. She should take care of him. Yeah.

Later on, he did say, he's like, I still want to be with her after. She didn't want to be with me though. And Jinger's like, you didn't answer my calls. And then he said, Molly's like, well, actually, you told me that she ghosted you. And he's like, these two came up to me and they were drunk. They're fucking drunk.

He completely narked on these two girls. And I went, you're a piece of shit. He dropped a dime. I want to get you a Gator. What are your thoughts on Molly? Lesbian. Yeah. I mean, she said that she's considering.

Okay. Totally. She'd be a really fun lesbian. Yeah. I mean, she said that she's considering totally. She'd be a really fun lesbian. Um, she'd be a really messy lesbian. Oh, she would fall in love and then maybe she'll be into being on ultimatum queer love. So she, oh, that one's so good. Would she just be picked apart and stupid, but ultimatum queer love? Yeah. She's not experienced enough as a lesbian. No, she'd be destroyed. She'd be destroyed. They would. The problem is Molly, y'all has been every guy's good time girl. Yeah, she's the girl every guy calls at the end of the night when they broke up. They have a Wendy's fantasy. She's the good time girl.

A Wendy's, a Wendy's fetish. A Wendy's fetish, yes. She is the square burger. Okay, so we get to the most unforgettable moments in love spine history. Number five, Megan Fox. Megan Fox. This was a great moment.

Let's move on. No, hold on. Okay. Number five, I agree with this one. This is the only one you guys have. The only one. Dylan pointed this out as one of the- No, no, no. It was you. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it wasn't me. Okay. She looks like Megan Fox if we still were wearing COVID masks. Yeah, that was you. All right. No, that was you. Let's get. Oh. Oh. Oh. No, that was you. Let's get to Ben and Sarah. We talk about.

I just want to say these moments are ridiculous because there's no breaking down of them. Nope. We just work them up. No hierarchy. It's just fucking vomit of, you try to track this stuff and then you're like, wait. Okay.

Why am I trying to track this stuff? So this is a TV producer knowing we have to kill they don't have an hour Yeah, and so we're going to fill it with musical performances But this is a sock throw and a sock throw. Why do you not nail? 39 minutes and make everybody happy I just with this man this is for the with this mandate of an hour and 15 minutes? This is for the people that brought us an hour and 40 minute wedding episode. What is wrong with you?

Who are, so here is one of the greatest moments in Love is Blind history. Gianna, the lady falling down a gully in a wedding dress. And also that confrontation between her and Damien after. And her mom. And honestly, her mother. The mother. And her mom. And honestly. Her mother. The mother.

And we just talked about Zenub fucking roasting Cole and the whole cutie conversation. These are way, the only ones actually I agree with. What made the show look good. These are the ones that made the show look good. And I do agree with Lauren and Cam. How about Irene and Zach in the bathroom where they both tell each other they hate each other. Guys, the tank mechanic grabbed wine hag by the throat and said,

if you go near him, I will hurt you. How is that not in the top five? Clearly the people that picked these clips don't watch the show. There was no voting online. They picked whatever they fucking wanted to. Lawyers picked it. Yeah, seriously, because I'll give my top three real quick. That angry guy gnawing at steak, cutting through steak,

like what's her name? I don't remember their names. What is the SNL sketch where she's she's She's cutting the stage from Temecula Lisa from Temecula Okay, so he was he was very upset and then there was that that I forgot it. Go ahead It's fine. We forget all their names. We forget all their names. All right Ben and Sarah Ben He looks so dirty Ben jumps in like clearly he's like met with some PR people's like, Hey, I don't get it. I just want to say my white privilege.

He had met with crisis, a crisis manager. Well, no, Jimmy met with Jimmy. Hey, let me tell you about it. You know, from love is blood Charlotte. That is a star of his. Tell all. It was Jimmy because he was the advisor to all the men on love. Let me tell you, make sure the guys don't do something stupid still making fuck shit. I got a boner just now. God damn. What a fucking idiot. There's two like the, I don't want to, I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to say that. Okay. This is bad. How it's, I was going to say though, Nick asked a good question. He said, why in God's earth would you get engaged to a guy you have nothing in common with? And I think Ben, I think he still has his PR team here. Sorry, I lost my mind here. Why am I talking? It was, go ahead, Dale. It was when he said, why would you do this?

And you're, do you, he's like, could you overlook these? Sarah, could you overlook all these things? Or do you think he would grow? And this is when I really do think, looking back, I think she, I don't know if she was that conflicted. I think she wanted to make some type of white girl savior statement at her wedding. Okay.

And I believe that she has like real weight and I agree. Did you just call her fat? No. She is, she has a real stake in the, the sister issue. The, that's her family. Coach. The other stuff is very much like white girl savior thing.

And it's like, she's more than welcome. And it's within her rights to be that way. These are important issues to her, but she knows that this guy is not. The entire time. But I think- The entire time? The entire time.

I think she said it though. I think it does go back to, I think she's dated a lot of like, a lot of asshole guys that have just been more bro-y guys she's met at bar. Sarah's a fun time. She's gonna have some shots, you can tell. And then she's met at bar Sarah's a fun time she's gonna have some shots you can tell and then she's even said you can't I thought it was such a great line you can't you can't date someone for their potential because they may never achieve

on the wedding episode and I she said on the wedding and I think I think a lot of women particularly do that with men because they're like I can teach him I could do this and then she realized thank God that she shouldn't be doing that can come from a loving place yeah like if you're if you're if you really love the person that you're hell I stayed with my ex-boyfriend for that for many of that reason you have to bet on their potential and never there right but this is a different what we're talking about political potential. It's a little bit that is different that is you know What that's a good point. That's a very good. I this is that's a political value

I do think and then when I brought this up earlier when she said yeah Then we decided to talk after and I'm like if you had if you were if your social beliefs are anathema to his Why the fuck are you saying? I didn do say come on when she said that. If you were really invested. Yeah, exactly. This would not be a thing. What if she just wanted to like fuck him really dirty and then dump him because she knew

that fuck up was really bad. I don't think that's it. I know that's not it, but I want it to be that. I think she's, I think, and it made me doubt her as how deluded she was about the breakup. That's true. To happen, and I don't want to, I want it to be that. I think she's, I think, and it made me doubt her as how deluded she was about the breakup. That's true. To happen, and I don't want, I didn't want to do that. She's just a very young girl.

Maddie, they didn't have sex. I don't think they did. Even when she's- Boring. We don't know if they fucked later. Again, we needed Dave to go around and ask everybody if they banged. Did she fuck you? Like he didn't hug Doris.

Okay, can I just say, Dave had the worst case of stress rosacea I've ever seen. Telling you, no one put makeup on any of the men. Very rosacea. Where are we? Very rosacea. Rosacea, I don't even know her. So he got practice reunions from,

practice questions for the reunion from Jimmy. And as fucking Nick Lachey said, maybe that's not the guy you listen to. Yeah, I know, I think that's. I I will say then as a complete and utter douche now, and I, and I do believe he at that moment when he told, when he said, Sarah got up the next morning and she's like, I think one of the weirdest things in the world is to, I don't even know what find my friends is. I don't have friends who I want to check up on that way. I was going to ask you young guys. I don't know what that is. No, it's, it friends who I want to check up on that way. I was gonna ask you young guys. I don't know what that is.

No, it's an app just on your phone. I'm aware of what it is, but I don't fucking care. Do you get a notification when somebody... That sounds awful. I don't think you can. You basically just share a location. Yeah. And then like anytime, like you can look

and see where someone is. It's kind of insane that he turned it off as soon as she got to Nashville. It's crazy that he told this woman, I want to move with you. Cause again, this is how reliable this is. That's why I called this out. Sarah, how reliable, how reliable this is, what she said. Well, she said, she said that they, she told the whole story.

And then he said, the one thing you're leaving out is that we broke up the night before you were about to leave. No, I'm saying I wonder, I wonder, cause I know what she told the women, but I don't know what was, what actually happened. In that moment, I really believed her because also from his response, he tried to not admit it first.

And he's like, well, yeah, I turned off the phone, but I waited until she got there. Like, no such a good guy. I think he's a complete douchebag. I'm just trying to say, I, it, it, it felt so one sided the way it was done. And this is someone who's who is he, she knew who he was. Well, an MP, the great MP crystallized it very perfectly. She was like, he's ex college baseball player. Like, who said that? MP.

Oh, that is yeah. Ex college baseball. We know what we're got. Who did we have that with? Did we have a, who was the guy on 90 day who had a huge dick who was an ex college baseball? Jonathan. Jonathan.

No, he played semi-pro. Jonathan and Fernanda. Doing God's work still watching that God damn show. Oh gosh. Oh y'all we're in. We are in for a pity in for a pound with that shit. I know you're not doing it, but the last resort is one of the best things. The last resort is incredible.

It's incredible. Can't do it once. It's so fuck. He would do it. It's Flor. Can't do it, won't do it. It's so fuck. He would do it. It's Florian in therapy and the therapist goes, Florian, would you like to talk about your feelings? And he responds. Well Florian, Florian, what did he say?

Well, she's like, Florian, can you just say anything? Like, he's like, Florian, how do you feel right now? What the fuck? I don't care. This is an Albanian national who No they watched it. Who was a 600 year old vampire. Yes, yes. Let's be honest.

He's very confused with his new world order. Who walked through a magic mirror. He doesn't know what happened. And now he's dating the new cat lady. And at one point he just says Sacy just said, how do you know you'll walk this girl home and give her a wambam thank you man she just said, how do you walk this girl home and give her a win-win? Thank you, man He goes, no, thank you, babe

He got drunky It's too long. It's very long. It's too goddamn long Yeah, can we we we didn't say do I believe that he wrote her three scripted apology emails? Yeah, I completely down. Yeah, 100%. I completely do. Yeah, this guy looks big. Shat GPT. Let's get to Joey and Monica. The evil sister reared her ugly head.

He wasn't there. She was the... I was upset that the sister wasn't there. Yeah. She was the impetus of their demise, according to Joey, were it not for his evil sister. That was such a cop out. He's a scumbag.

It is a cop out. I will say this. Biggest scumbag of the season for me. My ex-girlfriend, I hated her mother so much. The Deb. The Deb. I dated this girl for three years. Her mother had told me when we were dating for like three months, she's like, my daughter's

moving in with you. And, uh, this is the death. Get off the pot or whatever that gross shit. It get off the pot. She basically insisted her daughter move in with me because we were having sex. And I was like, ah, Deb, I, I don't want this. And anyway we did. And I always hated her mother for that. So I always was like, I'm never getting married to this girl.

And I felt really pressured. Anyway, different story. But my excuse was when I dumped her, I hated your mother so much. You know what? And I think that is exactly what he did. That's where you actually said, I'm dumping you. I did not say that.

But in my mind, that's what I tell the therapist. Here's the issue. Here's the issue. He could not tell her he wasn't attracted to her. He could not because he he is a nice guy. How are you supposed to do that on a reality TV show though? You can't. Right. But so this was what he said. He's gross. He should be happy because he's way more attracted to it because if he had looked at her in the eye at the tell and said, you know what, you're right.

I'm just not that into you. That would be a meme he would blow up on her. Well, here's the problem. What he wanted is, here's the problem. Here's the problem. No, he would have all these men defenders going for him. He could have done it in a way that says, look,

we never got there romantically and I love you as a friend. Um, but he knew or he thought he would get flack off that. So he said, it's all because of her sister. Yeah. Yeah. And then he, and then he texted Madison, love the hair. Let's chat. Oh, that was the nail in the coffin.

I think that was, would that have upset you? That would have upset me. That was the nail in the coffin. I would have stabbed him if I found that. I would have stabbed that motherfucker in the throat. All of these relationships are so meaningless. I don't think I would have minded. And here's what happens with these motherfuckers.

They go off into the sunset. Yeah. And we forget and they go, why did I, I'll go like, why did I hate him? I remember. Yeah. I guess he's a nice guy. It's like idiocracy. We're just like throwing ourselves, like shoving popcorn in our mouth. And as you say, they all fade and become barbecue friends. Yeah. They're barbecue friends. All right, number four, most memorable

is Taylor and Garrett, his hair. That was number four. That's actually not number four. That's not number four. Number 39. No one remembers these fools. Oh, no, I do. I loved them.

Garrett's hair was, I mean, it made my bussy wet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks like a genie. Oh yes, a very hot genie. I loved them, but it was by no means the best thing. No, but I agree with you, like, not even in top 20. This is the thing,

these are the five things that made the show look good. Yeah. These were chosen by Chris Colen himself. Because they should have the scene where Carlton, a closeted gay man Through the rain in the pool through the ring in the pool and then she calls him fuck Yeah, what happened and then she calls him and it's like he's watching them tape this and at the same time He's got a mirror right there, and he's just stroking himself the whole time. Yeah, why good look what I'm doing

Yeah, I'm so the whole time just like going, look what I'm doing. Yeah. I'm so good. I am saving the goddamn world. Look at how much blood is rushing to it. Yes. And as soon as they start playing musical instruments at the end of the reunion, that's when he comes. When that guy goes like, Verde, I'm right over here.

He's like, yeah, I got my own song. Number three. Is the guy that cheated on his girlfriend who we don't remember. Jeremy. Jeremy. I do remember that scene because that was awesome. That was a good thing. Yeah, it was.

That take down by Laura was just like, yeah, I have you. And she's like, yeah, you weren't here. You were here because your fucking location's on. And that's where Sarah Ann lives. Yeah, yeah. Now that's probably number eight. I would say eight. I think eight is a good... I definitely think that is top ten. Number three I think is Wine Hag barely able to sit upright and that little guy pouring her four gallons of wine as she scrolls out of the hotel.

And the dog laughing things. Basically all five of the most memorable moments are pretty much with Winehack. She's our absolute favorite. Okay. She actually was the best because she slurred her words so badly every time she had anything to drink. Her teeth. Are you guys fans of the movie The Patriot? Well, when Heath Ledger gets married to his bride, they like die their teeth. They have ink.

It's some kind of thing they say, I love you with each other with. And that's what she looked like the whole time. She's such a drunk. She's just slurring the whole time. She can't go in. Yeah. So anyways, she's a drunk. David and Lauren.

And you know what? All right. This is so relitigated over and over and over. But I do want to say this. He was very calculated in the idea that three weeks before the reunion, he apologizes to say, yeah, you know, you know

what? I've had a lot of time. He's so fucking stupid. It's so transparent. Yeah. You could tell y know what? I've had a lot of time. He's so fucking stupid. It's so transparent. Yeah. You could tell y'all from moment one. He did not want to be there. Oh, at the reunion. At the reunion. I think it's cheap to show that.

You don't think he's pretending to be like, he's emoting. The rosacea, the stress rosacea. Yeah. Yeah. Is that a zen? Yeah. Oh yeah.

All my brother, my nephews do that. Okay, here we go. Do you do that? I can see you getting into that. Zens. What are they? It's nicotine. Oh, I'll pass. But without the smokey.

But yeah, if I put one of those in my mouth, I throw up immediately. Oh, I love nicotine. It's the best. Yes. If we ever go out and actually drink and you pull those out, I will have one.

Really? But I still have to do other things. Oh, he was a smoker for a long time. I was a smoker for about close to seven or eight years. Me too. I started when I was like 15. I started when I was like 17, 18. Just horrible. What are we going to do with you?

He's gonna, he's burping right now. I was, but I was a, I was a, I was a musician and with pianist, we all, I smoked. He learned from Russian pianist. The most smoke, literally the just walking marbles that play the keys. That's what we did. Smoking is fucking cool as shit. What were you, it is cool.

It is cool, that's what no one wants to tell you. Smoking is cool. It's fucking cool as shit. It does look hot. It gives you cancer, but it's cool. Yeah, there are lots of little trade-offs in this fucking life. So David and Lauren do their whole thing. He was an asshole. And then we get to Meg and Mason. I understand why people say single.

That was my favorite. That was my favorite line. The Meg, the Mason, the Alex, and the Madison. I'm confused by all of it. Who could possibly keep track of what's going on here? I am extremely confused. How is she? So now they're friends, Meg and Mason. Yep.

Yet she is vehemently defending him to the end of the earth. I don't understand. Well, and also like for Madison to be this upset about something. Oh, but she's a narcissist, honey. Well, yeah. I will tell you, Meg and Madison, sorry.

Yeah, Meg and Madison are at different spectrums among the two women you don't wanna meet, as if you're another woman, because they will, Madison will always try to beat you you and Meg will also try to do the same thing, but befriend everybody else and she'll double cross you because she doesn't feel it. She's cause she feels insecure about herself. I do think they're very dangerous from Meg.

Oh, Meg is a bad friend. She's going to talk to all their friends and say, guess what, you know, Dylan, he doesn't believe in aliens and they're gonna go, what? No, Meg will double cross another woman like that, if it's especially for a guy. I did enjoy it in this because- So will Madison though.

Because of where we are in our culture right now, this is gonna sound like I'm talking about men's rights. And I'm not saying men's rights now. We because we hate it when guys, they do that a lot on 90 Day. Rob is the president of men's rights now. Yeah. Of Robin online cheating. But, you know, they're carving away at our liberties. Yeah, they are. Yeah.

But I did like that Meg, because to win in for Mason, because if Mason tried to do it himself, it would probably come across too aggressive. But I think we all can agree. Madison fucking played both of those guys and she did them. Oh, this is the thing. They are chum in the water compared to her, cause she's such an emotionally manipulative human being.

She's a genius. She's a genius. And she would never admit that he was right. She, and he didn't use this word, he backtracked, but he'd know. She pressured him into saying that I'm your number one. And then she was like, I never asked you to do that. With, with, sorry, but we talked about it early in the season.

I'm sure it's the same thing, but if you were throwing out cream pie. Yeah. Oh, that was so intentional. In combination with forcing him to make that call, you know exactly what you're doing. You know exactly what you're doing. She was being Madonna whore at the same time. A million percent. And I'm going to say, I don't want to, I'm low to whore at the same time. A million percent.

And I'm going to say, I don't want to, I'm, I'm, I'm low to criticize her because I love her game. Yeah. But she's not around traitors. So I respect the hell out of her game. Like, like to a straight man, you're across a partition from somebody who is the, the mother and the whore in one. And she's like, just I'm here, just pick

me. If I was a straight man, I would fear her more than almost anyone else in this world. Yeah, she will date a couple of Madisonists. And I know this, and I know this because I had a lot of, one of my favorite things in my twenties was to pit two men I was interested in against each other. Yeah, and I'm sure the Madison's that you date, they were so freaky deaky they didn't even have a safe word. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not really into this. Jake has said, but he says this is about Natalie from 90 Day, but I think it applies to Madison. It's like when you fuck Sharon Stone in Casino. Look, here, no, in basic instance.

In basic, you don't know if she's gonna ice pick you or ride your jacuzzi. But you're excited, because here's the thing. The excitement that she may actually pull out the ice pick and not use it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's gonna bring you to the ultimate climax. I that I just I really I did appreciate Meg in that moment calling her on that because Mason could not have done.

Yeah, here's the thing, though. Meg will turn on you in a set. But I agree with that, too. She's a snake to basic instinct was Sharon Stone, Michael Douglas, Bunny Soup, Bunny Soup. That's no, that's no, no, no, no. That's fatal attraction. Yeah. Glenn Close. Other movies about crazy women. Okay. Women are crazy. Okay, so we wrap with this. Just more of this insanity is she brings out the receipts. They prove stated now real good.

They prove nothing. She brings out the receipts. They prove that now real good. They prove nothing. She brings out the receipts in her. I got to say this. This woman had planned because she expected to be searched. So they're not taking it. She's like, I pop these in my armpit because it's all I could take here. Cause I will say this about her.

Do I believe her about what everyone is saying and how they're all turning on each other? 100%. I believe that. And she actually thinks, and she had to say this because this sucks, because of the way she is, which is kind of diabolical, people are gonna think everything she says is a lie.

Yeah. But when she has truth to say, it's like the boy who cried wolf, but no one believes her. It's just gonna be through the lens of, if you've wronged her, you're against her. Right, right, right. I'm still probably-

She's fucking vicious. I kind of love her, and I probably always will. Yep, me too. Do I trust her? Absolutely not, and I would never tell her anything pertinent about myself. I would've loved more of her,

it would've made it more interesting. She needed to be on the show. She needed to go to Honduras. She did need have made it more interesting. She needed to be on the show. She did. Honduras. She did need to go to Honduras. She needed to Alex and her needed to go. Mason and Meg needed to go. This is why the show sucks. Did why did Alex look like he looked like he had just been

a member of the Wiggles? I see. I thought he looked like he had just been dropped off as a extra from the Hobbit, like with his hair and his nose. Well, I don't know if y'all have seen online. He, he's- Basically on Reddit- He's the worst of all of them. He's one of the worst people they've ever found.

I think that they, MP was telling us that there was some- There's all these screenshots of him like date of- Are we talking about the guitar lessons? Like trying to seduce underage girls. Underage girls, yeah. Like, and like giving underage girls alcohol. He's a cool guy. You know girls alcohol. He's a cool guy. You know?

He's a really cool guy. No, he's, but you know, everything he was saying, of course, they're not going to bring it up on the show because it's way too much for them to touch. But everything he was saying- Chris Collins stroking himself. He can't see that. But, sorry, I don't know if I cut you off. You're fine.

Okay. Two, oh gosh. I don't even if I cut you off. You're fine. Okay. Oh gosh. I don't even remember where we are. Why don't we get to number two greatest moments? We do need to get to that, but what I wanted to say was, obviously she needed to get to Honduras,

but the true magic of Madison would have been in the confined quarters. That's when serious mental warfare was going to go down. Yeah. I'm hating that we never saw it. It would have been amazing. Oh, it would have been amazing. And then she would have gone to those parties when they met up

and just threw her. Just fucked with all the men. Oh, yeah. Started with all the men. It would have been. It would have been Chef's Kiss number two, most memorable. I have a prediction. Madison, are you fans of 48 hours or 20?

Oh yeah. Perfect match. Clearly. I think 20 years she kills like her mate. Oh, 100%. Oh, like a black widow. Or something. Yeah.

If she didn't, I'd be disappointed. OK, so number two most memorable moment of all time is Lauren and Cameron. This actually is not the number two most memorable moment. Watch, they have zero chemistry kissing. I do think they are top 10. I do. I think because, you know, this was we were in pandemic. We were just like this was you were like, wait a minute.

We all thought this show was going to be stupid and like just a total reality show. And you go, wait a minute, did someone actually make it work? Did someone make this work? I'm also gonna say this, and this is a weird hot take. I think Lauren is such an engaging, interesting person. I think any man would fall in love with her. I think she was the one who settled. And I think he's hot, but I think he's a little dull.

He's a robot. So I call these TV relationships. Yeah. And then I call them, when they have babies, I call them TV babies. They've done this for Bachelor Nation forever. She's PR, remember that. She's PR.

That's what I- They have a podcast. I question the legitimacy of this marriage. And guess what? They're the only ones who didn't do a, we're phoning in our relationship and do a little video at the end. They did last season. They showed up at the end. They did last season.

They showed up at the reunion. They showed up at the reunion last season. Yeah. But they didn't send a thing. They didn't send a video. They almost that was a fuck you. I think that was you better pay us. Happy five years that you better fucking pay us.

But you're getting back to that's what made the first season so special. The balance was perfect. They you need the heart. It can't just be flora Bamaashore but we need more filth i don't want to wrap this up i need filth do really you need to have love is blind corpus christi yeah do they do they fix this next season no no because they've already filmed it and and because again, nothing changes, Pat. Can you it's the same old shit show. Can you tell Madison to fix herself? Will she fix it?

No, because she's a healed. She's a healed and she says a resourced person. She's a resourced when you believe your own bullshit, you never smell it. Hold on. I do have a theory, Jake. We're all in the biz or whatever. They will never do six episodes until you get to the resort again. Never, never. So they can't. That was an issue down now to because they had to add it.

Nothing at the resorts. They had nothing at the resorts. They also had two couples that they had to edit out completely. So all of that space, they have to fill with all the the the Kylie, the asymmetric asymmetrical dresses. It was her and all of her outfits were asymmetrical. So this bitch had to be crazy. It was this blonde girl who looked like another blonde.

No brunette. They're all the same. I'm just a bunch of white. I kind of remember the names. And I think all women are the same. I'll go on Reddit. I'll forget this. All right, Dylan, wrap, wrap this up. Number one most memorable moment is that girl telling Jimmy that he was gonna throw up

when he saw the person that he picked and not her. I think that's a terrible copy. I do too. Not number one. And by the way, I disagree. My wife was like, she's a champion for her. And I was like, she's basically touting that she's fucking hot and he's a douchebag for that.

Oh, I love her, but it was a buildup for was like, I don't know what I'm going to do. She was flipping the script on a moron guy. It's all right. But that was I don't even think that was top 10. No. Do I think that was top 20? Possibly. But not number one. Fair enough. Fucking I'm trying to think of my number one. But anyway, my number one is Jimmy's

family meeting Chelsea and they're all got mashed potatoes. Yeah. They're talking to him and they looked like they just came out of the amount. Oh, you know what I loved maybe that top five, but massage agent, um, talking to that guy. Like the guy from Israel telling the guys a piece of shit. Yes, when the guys, when it was, what's her name's father.

Yeah. And she's like, you know what I do with people who ruin my daughter? I break your legs. That's right. He was like, how much money do you make? My top one was actually to invoke the wine slur again was when, because a lot of people forget about this.

They go like Jessica, the drinking with the dog, but also when she was wine drunk at the gathering. And remember, tried to break up Amber and Barnett at the reunion. That's my number one. You could have done the top five just season one. Season one. What's your number one? It could have done the top five, just season one. Season one, what's your number one? It's definitely going down the gully, little wedding dress.

That was part of the trailer. Oh my God. No, Gigi, Giannina, Giannina, that moment, I think there are certain people. Found her in a mall kiosk for hair extensions. Did y'all know that? That's where they found her. They literally cast her out of a mall kiosk

for hair extensions. Hair extensions and she was like, I'm a business woman. And Jake, I mean, I thought she owned a boutique. But Jake went on a whole thing for like five minutes. I bet she's a real business woman. I bet she's got a, I bet she's hair shass. She was my favorite person of that season.

She was my favorite person of that season. Don't wrap up. I am gonna pee my, I have to pee. I have to pee so bad. Let's wrap, let's wrap, okay? We're wrapping. Wait a minute, are y'all inviting us for a golden shower right now?

Yes. We can talk about it. Okay, so we'll talk about that. We wrap with throwing bins, socks and bins, and then we see that man perform that music live. We toast, and that is the end. Well, and then A.D. perform that music live. We toast and that is the end. Oh my God. And then AD and Oli are together.

Oh my God. Which they met on Perfect Match. I love AD. That was ridiculous crossover. Do we like Oli? I couldn't remember if we liked Oli or not. Oli is the one who was with, I can't remember her name. When you ask, is this gonna change?

No, because they rolled this package. That was absurd. And announced their podcast. Also they had a video game integration in this. Okay. That video game, it was like, and it looked, all right, I am going to be, when you pay, when you pay, do you all like P like brothers and crisscross? Okay. I sat down and he pees in between my legs. That's it. That's hot. Okay. So you do. OK, so not a good season. No, no. All that being said, not a great season. This is not a great point. Is this your least favorite season of Love is Blind? The season?

Houston was my least favorite. Still, Houston with Lydia and Milton, that's the worst season. That's the worst season for me, because everyone was un fucking likeable. Incredibly. I I got to say, I think this was my least favorite season. Yeah. Did you see Lydia and Milton are still together? Yeah. What devils pack did they show you? Thank you. Oh, they're not together. To show you how bad this season is. I don't know Maddie well,

but he's his big heart and he's sensitive and he's an optimist. He hates this season. Yeah, worse. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone hates this season. That's like, you know, I hate everyone three episodes in always, but he hated people. You you hated people about six episodes out. I did. Well, also to my ex-boyfriend broke my heart and now I don't believe in love or man. So that happened too. So listen, love trips you when you're not looking.

But that said, I would trip you when you're not looking. It does. I wanna ask, cause he said that he wouldn't do it, but I say, I never would. I would never do it because I would take one look at a guy and I go, no. I would go on Love is Blind and my fucking Pisces self would totally fall for it. I think I could do

it. Could you do love is blind? Absolutely not. I don't think I would totally fall in love with somebody many people could. No, here's the thing. You couldn't because you would get to the latter stages of the of the relationship and you'd be like, Oh my god, he has a 412 credit score. Yeah, that would be mine.

There's some landmine that will make it not feasible. I think me now, but yeah, I really, we were at, I was saying I could go and love his blind pack. I would be like, remember like- Use the microphone. Oh yeah, use the microphone. Do you remember like the road runner would go, that would be me as soon as I saw someone at the reveal

who I wasn't attracted to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't say that. In a second. And totally fall in love. I mean, I fall in love. This guy. It's a Pisces.

You would probably do it. No. Well, if you weren't married. If my wife let me go on, I would. No, no, no. Okay, Let's just say he was single. If that fucking partition came up and he saw somebody he wasn't attracted to, it would be impossible. Would you say no then? He would go, you know what? I probably fake it like Dave and that makes me a

douchebag. Like I try and fake my way through. Dave really did think his way through it. That's why I want Jake to do it, because Jake would the person, and he, no, he wouldn't even do that. Jake would just look at him and go, no thank you, and turn around and walk away. And that's the honorable fucking thing to do.

And that is the most honest and generous thing to do. That's what Love is Blind needs for this upcoming season. They need someone to turn someone away. Some fucking gay guy. Yeah, and that's where Second Chance Hallway comes in. Second Chance Hallway. You know, I'm a producer, second good idea of the night. They got to do the Golden Bachelor route,

but Golden Bachelor fucked up by making those people too fucking old. They need to get people in their 50s. That's a great time. Cause you've been divorced twice by then. And you're ready for a lot of people. You don't want to have sex and you're not shitting yourself in the diaper. There's not enough vitality.

All right, but how about love is blind with people that are in their 40s? We've said we would love that. I'd love a 40. We actually had a cast member. We had a woman who was in her 40s. We've said we would love that. I love a 40. We actually had a cast member. We had a woman who was in her 40s. She was a pretty black woman.

She was like 42. She was a hot love is blind? No, that's the Asian woman. You're wrong. The Asian woman was 42. And I saw that Chiron and I was like, that's too old for this iteration of the show. We've got like 25 year olds fucking talking about BLM.

What are we talking about? I would love midlife love is about? What is it called? Midlife Love is Blind. Midlife Love. That's not a good name. No, it could be. Yeah, go back to drawing board with that. But I think mistakes would be so high.

Love has cataracts. Okay, I like that. Well, you, and we probably should end on that, but I will say as you get older, you become less superficial about looks. It is more about like, what do you do? I mean, we saw we saw. I don't know. I'm still there.

It was pretty shallow. I'm still there. We saw Jerry, the Gary, the jacuzzi repairman, you know, base everything off of who's got more money and who gives a better blood pressure. But, Jake, if someone was like stimulating your mind and they were not your ideal thing, that would turn you on. No, if you wouldn't do it.

I gotta say, you know what? Maybe it's a gay man thing because if you don't have a little bit of a essence of Idris Elba, I don't want you near me. Here's the thing. Jake, if it was a seven that stimulated your mind, would that be better than a 10? What's the bank account like?

No, go lower, go lower. No, literally go lower. What's his? Six. No, no, I meant what's his dick like? Go lower. Yeah, when you go low, when we're talking lower, both like before like five, four, I'm just like, no. Really?

Yeah. Fun fact about me and Pat, we have very small penises. Yeah, yeah. That's great. It's really kind of like, yeah. You know what? Then you're, you're both of you are less threatening to me now.

Yeah. So I love that. Listen, I think that, That I would totally come under with your views. I don't think Jake and I are monster penises people either because we're both big bossy bottoms. Yeah. Oh, I thought, well, you're,

you are a monstrous penis guy though. Not really. No, no, no. We don't own monstrous penises. We don't have giant penii. We are just normal. I guess we got four bottoms here. Yeah, we are four bottoms.

That's the name of our podcast. This is four bottoms signing off. Four bottoms signing off. That is a fucking perfect title. That's the best podcast. Four bottoms signing off. That is a fucking perfect title. That's the best podcast. Four bottoms sitting on a podcast. All right, get in the comments. Let us know how voracious you are for four bottoms.

We should do Temptation Island. It should be an exclusive one. We're done, we're doing it. Y'all, thank you so much for joining our- He's not even agreeing, but I'm agreeing. Our crossover here. It's been a gay old time. It's been a season.

Let's just say, I don't know if it's good or bad season. It's been a season. It's been a season. I'm glad we ended it with you guys. Like, yeah. It was, it was eight hours of television or 12 hours of television. Eight hours, I wish it was eight hours.

Watch 20. It was 20. 20 fucking hours? Yes. God, I need it was eight hours. Watch. It was 20. It was 20. 20 fucking hours? Yes. God, I need to reevaluate my life. Yeah, so Netflix, don't do it again. Producers should be in jail. Follow Poodle and Maddie.

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