Another Below Deck Podcast - There Are No More Miners | RHOBH S15 E4

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

Patty, Dyl and Ruby are back to break down Sedona, Lil Ted, e bikes, miners, love, Delta Force, Shrek and more from Bravo's RHOBHLumiLabs.com Code: BAD TV for 30% OFF PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

Sutton and Nipsa Tilly multiple times this episode. Oh yeah. And I think the biggest assault was forcing her to drink tea. Hey, Tilly doesn't have anything to do. She spent the morning buying $60,000 pirate ship purses from Louis Vuitton that are getting flown in from Croatia. Okay, check that off the list. Now it's time to drink some fucking vodka. Hey, fuck is that.

It's bad TV. I'm Dillon. That's Pat. Hey, great to be here. Kaelin's here behind the ones and twos. Papaya Girl is calling. She's back stateside, flew back home. She had to deplane because people were fighting in the jetway. How are we going to fix this? I'm not sure. That's not our job. That's not our job. We can write a letter, but they know. Do you imagine writing a letter to Delta's customer service? Guys, can you do something about this? You have any idea that people are treated horribly by your organization that you overbook flights on purpose and then deal with the consequences? Yeah, they know. But that's above our pay grade, okay? Pupyta girl, how are you? I'm doing really well. How are you, Dill? How are you, Pat? Hey, can you turn her up in my cans a little bit? We're doing it pretty good.

Um, so don't go places. We have to recap the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. We have returned the tour to force. After a month. Has it been a month? Yeah, I think I looked it up. It was like December 11th was last episode. That was the, uh, dating thing that Bose set up.

Oh, yeah. It's crazy. Wow. I don't even know why they launched that like in December. That's like the dark hole, the, the, the, the pure, what is that? Bermuda triangle of like the death of shows. You're talking about the new food pyramid kind of thing? No, no, no, no.

I'm saying this is where you'd launch a show that you don't give a shit about. Like Vanderpump rules. Oh, right. What's up with that? I wouldn't know because nobody gives a shit about it. I haven't watched. I refuse. Talking about evil organizations, you know,

everybody's been talking about the indoor. So I go sign up for Disney Plus. Just a disgusting. Just a disgusting company. They got that mouse and the little tinkerbell that flies over the logo. You're not fooling me. It's absolutely disgusting what you guys are doing. You know, you have to watch ads.

You pay for the service and then you have to watch ads. Not if you get like an upgrade or something. We don't watch ads. You don't watch ads? It's $35 a month. Probably. That's crazy. You know what?

Cancel it. I'm going to watch Andor and then I'm going to watch Moulon a couple of times and then I'm going to cancel it. Disney Plus with no ads is $35 a month. It's a bundle. I think I pay for it. I'll check for you. Okay. Thank you.

We're not here. No. Sorry. Let's start over. Evil Mouse. Okay. We're here to break down the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Very exciting news.

While we love Beverly Hills, I think it's a great season. Sutton Brown introduces herself to the ladies tonight. Yeah, her new self. which was very girl interrupted and actually really uncanny and disconcerting. But the good news is while Beverly Hills is firing on all cylinders, Traders is back. And we today are going to be recording episodes one, two, three and dropping them throughout the weekend for you guys. Mama Kelsey's here. Mm-hmm.

Okay. Duet Monet is here. Candice is here. some guy named Eric. A guy named Eric. I'm going to, first off, I will say this. I love traders and I love this season of traders. All three, I could not stop watching it.

I mean, I know it's my job to watch him and take notes and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I loved it, but I do have one point of contention with the producers of traders. They are truly stretching the definition of the word, celebrity. No, I think Eric is a big deal. I think he's got a famous, it's a famous family. I can't remember who he's related to. My favorite thing about it.

You walked down the street in New York City, held a picture of him. I would bet a million dollars if you held a picture of him in front of a hundred people and asked who he is. I guarantee no one would be able to name. No, I think he's an absolutely massive. You know, he might be the biggest celebrity on the cast, actually, in a sneaky way. He was referred to as a rando in the turret by four of the traders. No, I know, but that's because they're ignorant. I think he sells out stadiums in Korea or something like that.

Well, maybe he should be on Traders, Korea. Well, we wouldn't be able to. Okay. Okay. All right. You really sound like Clint Eastwood right now. If I could be super honest, you sound like Clint Eastwood right now. Get off my line.

Well, I think he should be in a different show then. I can't wait to shit on Mama Kelsey. I cannot wait to talk about Johnny Weir and Lipnicki thinking that they're going to fly under cover. And people aren't going to know. I love that. It's unbelievable. By the way, I love Travis Kelsey's mom. on the show. What was Taylor Swift's dog walker busy? Like, okay. What kind of celebrity is that?

Okay. All right. Ruby thoughts before we get into Housewives. Careful with how we discuss her. Oh, I don't give a shit. I hate the Chiefs. I don't give a shit. I don't care about the Chiefs, Patrick. I care about the fact that if we say anything negative about Taylor Swift, you guys literally think that I'm going to have us killed and shot. And she's kind of adjacent now. So whatever. I don't really know. I also don't know what happens last episode one. So don't tell me. We won't. Perfect. I think it's going to be fun.

Yeah. We have more important business to attend to. Yes, we do. Ruby is back. She still remains steadfast on stealing Rachel Zoh's house. Ruby, what did you think of the episode? How many tits do you give it? All right.

I was very happy with this episode. It felt like a good welcome back after a very, very long hiatus. And I'm excited now to see what, what spice we get into. I think we're getting into the meat of the rest of the season now. I am going to give it like very, very perky, but natural. Like just those lucky girls. Yeah. 86 of those. That's, uh, that's 43 lucky girls. Wow. The scale is Babes, by the way, both of you. Oh, my bad. Oh, sorry. Babes. Baby's got a Delta Force guy tonight. Shrek.

Shrek. I hooked him up. Go ahead. Okay. I enjoyed the episode. I missed this show. This is the best version of Housewives right now. Salt Lake City obviously took a huge dump.

Horrible, horrible, horrible. By the way, Rubes, what did you think of the finale of Salt Lake? I think she froze. She's frozen. Well, Ruby's frozen. I have a theory on what now makes a good housewives. series. This is like a mandate. You must either sideline turn a housewife every season into a friend or eliminate a housewife and add two housewives, new housewives. It just brings a spark of

new energy to a season when you have two newbies. That's a bad idea. No, it's not a bad idea because I'm loving getting to know Amanda and there are some cracks in that veneer. My God. Okay, Robs, what did you think about the Salt Lake finale? Oh my God. Okay, first of all, I've never felt more seen by Baby Gorgeous than when she talked about trees. And I, the only, what I was going to say to Pat is, what would you do with the season like Salt Lake that truly doesn't feel like it could lose? I don't think we should lose anybody from that season. Yeah, Meredith Mark's sleptwalk through this season.

She can go. Is it gaudy to be drinking a giant bottle of Saratoga? on this podcast. I didn't even notice you had it. Oh, okay. Yeah, no. Meredith Marks can go. Let's bring a new being.

Is it gaudy to mention and be concerned that I'm... Yeah. I think you're distracting from the podcast. Okay. Yeah. Pat, where would we have gone this whole season, the latter half, without, without mayor? Somewhere, but somewhere better.

What is wrong with you, Ruby? First off, we didn't go anywhere. This was a horrific season. What the fuck is wrong with you, okay? and if you want to listen to us, break it down, go to patreon.com slash another podcast network. By the way, buried the lead. We're going to do five episodes,

three weeks of traders. Then traders will be behind the paywall. And, you know, I saw a couple mentions like, geez, this is a little harsh. Sounds like you guys didn't really like it. You guys are talking about how breaking down Salt Lake is your job. Well, it is our job.

And, you know, it's, we are unbelievably blessed. But sometimes you have to watch love after lockup or the finale of Salt Lake City. sometimes it's just not the best. Anyways, you were giving your tits. Yes.

Okay, so I'm liking watching Amanda because something is off. She made a ton of money, but you know these life coaching, these find a new way to live your life, make all the money you can. These are like fly by night type of things. I hope she's saving a lot of money. Doesn't look like she is. She's, this is going to be problematic. I think she thought this would help her brand. when you come on the housewives, that kind of business model does not work. The skinny girl type of

way of coming on this show. It's a rarity. It's a rarity these days. And I think it can only hurt her. And it begs the question, if you have a financial vibes life coaching business, how could you possibly want to, and you're making a good amount of money, how could you possibly want to bring that out into the light? It'll be destroyed by normal people. And by producers that hate you, i.e. what they did to her essentially in the edit, when she was explaining her business, which it's always very boring, the tech side of a... Don't talk about the tech side of it. The tech side of it at a dinner. And so they made it look like she was droning on and people were falling asleep. And Robs, I'm really sorry that we cut

off when you were talking about Salt Lake City. It's just that, um... Well, he just cut me off to cut, to apologize for cutting you off. No, I know. I'm pretty bad at that, but it's just that you started talking about and defending Meredith Marks. And it's like, I hear you, but like because you're so far away and we're here in this, we just can't have that, right? Okay. Yeah, I don't accept your apology. Okay. I didn't apologize.

Okay, cool. I accept not. No, you said for. Oh, sorry. Or maybe I don't accept your acknowledgement. Okay. I do not. I agree with you guys.

I don't think that this is a good season, but I'm just saying because it was so bad, we had to rely on Meredith being an alcoholic bill popper and what would wet me and where would we have gone? and how would we have held? Whatever. Anyways. Okay. But.

But. Go ahead, Pat. Ruby, the point I was making is when you bring two new people in every season, you switch up the chess board. Now, that's a bad idea. No, it is not. Yeah, it is. That's just a bad idea.

Then the new, the ladies that have been around for a while, they are going to naturally feel intimidated because there's new cast members. And it's just a shakeup. It's a, you know, it's that catfish theory. A catfish keeps all the other existing fish in the tank moving around a little bit more. You know, it's so funny. I was watching, actually, the disturbance in the kitchen episode of Kriber enthusiasm, and the matri-D comes out.

And he sounds exactly like Meredith Marks. Listen to this. Listen to this. Well, thank you. I'm glad you thought it was a good question because it was a really atrocious answer. Well, I beg to differ. Let me ask you this question. How in God's name did you get this job?

I am great at dealing with these disturbances. Yes, really. I'm asking that because you come off as quite a goofball. I'm going to take that as a compliment. It's not. Delicious meal, by the way. Did I mention that? Doesn't he sound like Meredith Marks?

Maybe a high pedigree? You know, she comes for money. Because you haven't answered one question. Does she really come from money? Yeah, I told you she's worth like $150 million. I am wearing a tie. Yes, you are. What color is it?

I believe the tie is self-evident. So the color is there. That's Meredith Marks. Okay, anyway. That might be hard. Listen. All right, let me wrap up my ba-bays. Please.

Okay. Kayland, should we just start over? No. Okay. I loved this episode. It was super fun. I was really missing a swamp rat, aka Erica Jane.

I thought she was going to come back with her hands dirty because she was out in Vegas digging a hole for some money. But nope, she's just been off in the wilderness hanging out with Shrek. Do you imagine Erica like bumping into some actual criminals out there? They're like,

what are you doing? Don't worry about it, baby. No, baby. They're digging. a hole to put a body in and she's digging a hole to get some money. You won't say anything and I won't say anything bad. That's right. Okay, I'll give it 40 babies. I love the episode. Sutton Brown introduces herself to the cast. That was a lot of fun. Sutton is really nipping at a lot of people. Sutton nips a Tilly and I think I speak for America when I say Sutton has not been in our hearts the way that Tilly

has since the 90s, right? Sutton was not the prosecution and liar, liar, right? So if you nip it, Tilly, we'll fucking kill you. I mean, not literally, not literally, but like in terms of fan opinion, you're not going to beat Tilly Sutton. And sorry, you know, I'm not an overcorrecter. I believe Tilly played the gold digging wife. That's true.

yeah, she was not a lawyer. She was actually a gold-dicking wife. He was defending her. That's right. Yeah. Thank you for that correction. 12 pots. Can I bounce us around Los Angeles?

Okay, Bose takes her daughter for driving lessons around Rodeo Drive, one of the busiest streets in Los Angeles. In a Porsche. And can I just say to wealthy parents, if your child is in a really nice car, it's tacky. It's just tacky. It is. Take a minute. like if you got if you must take them in a name right like take them in a Mercedes that's like

six years old or something do you know how much Honda a new Honda Accords are nowadays they're like 38,000 dollars we always call that the cute girl car what are you doing rich parents it's tacky go get a Volvo right it will be 60,000 dollars right okay and it'll be great and you can also go to rodeo I promise you yeah this is insane she's driving around a Porsche canon a menerca it's like what even is Don't get me started with her. All right. Rachel Zoh calls her son, Little Ted. I mean, I'm calling him Little Ted, but she calls Little Ted while drowning in a silk leopard print trench coat on six-inch-inched platform heels.

Ruby, when you go out to sit by the pool to make a call, that's what you put on? That's what she will put on when she steals Rachel's house. I wish that I could give you guys my screen share right now. I said Rachel wears floor-length leopard-print pants to robe things and takes calls outside on her lounge chairs, is inspirational. So yes, in the future. Thank you for us. This home is actually really, really beautiful. This courtyard is, you know, I mean, it just really welcomes in the sunlight to us, to Ruby, something to aspire to, to marry Cosby, a haunted house. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. By the way, for Rachel, so she's going to have to marry a gay man. I don't know,

I don't know how this is going to work out with a straight guy. Because he's going to be expected to say. I don't know why I'm co-signing that. I just, that's true. I don't know. I don't know why I jumped to agree. All right. Okay, okay. Well, Tilly visits Sutton and Sutton tells her that she's changed her drinking habits. And I'm assuming that means she doesn't start at noon anymore. Uh-huh.

You know? And then, uh, you know, this is one of those things. And I've thought a lot about housewives. Look at Ruby's face. She's frozen at it. Look at, look at, you know, I was talking to my wife. When we first started working in the service business, meaning we had to deal with, like, rich people like in the afternoon.

And we'd see a bunch of people that would like yelling or be very like odd behavior. We now realize they were on drugs or drunk at noon. Did we get a booster route here? Because she's really freezing up on us. All right. We'll work on it. We'll work on it. It doesn't affect the audio.

Roops, go ahead. Sure. I was just going to say Sutton looked really, despite the fact that she was an insufferable weird wench during this, this segment. she looked she looked so good and I think it's I'm not kidding I think actually she may have had some stuff done very minimally and stopped the drinking adjustment I think has served her very well physically I think when people stop overdoing the Botox is you can have really magical effects I mean look at

will Arnett you know he calmed down and now he looks like a normal person oh my god I saw that trailer for that new piece of shit movie he's hawking out there he looks like an old fucking man okay so So there's this really strange readjustment that we've done in our culture where men who are 55 that look like they're 47 are disgusting old men, right? And it's like it's like so crazy. And that's not even to say, you know, women have it obviously 100,000 million times worse. But, you know, I think you need to stop behaving and having the rump of a fucking Kardashian. again. Okay. Okay. It's crazy. Well, I think I look good. Tilly is Sutton and Nipsa Tilly multiple times this episode. Oh yeah. And I think the biggest assault was forcing her to drink tea. Hey, Tilly doesn't have

anything to do. She spent the morning buying $60,000 pirate ship purses from Louis Vuitton that are getting flown in from Croatia. Okay, check that off the list. Now, it's time to drink some fucking vodka. Okay. I'm not having Sokai salmon with tea. That's insane. Just because you're a fucking drunk doesn't mean I can't have a goddamn vodka soda. Okay?

Protect Jennifer Tilly from Sutton. Well, later on when she corrects her and calls her Riba, a woman that deep down in her heart, truly she hates her mother. Oh, yeah. How could you not, to be fair? It's quite a dig. Tilly knows where it hurts. Ruby, thoughts on this?

Or can we get to the invite to Sedona? The way that you co-signed Pat saying Rachel Zohm must be with a gay man, I co-sign everything you said off to Sedona. Thank you. So she's going to invite the women to Sedona. And she's going to let the women know that she's not a drunk anymore. By the way, big red flag here. Because Sutton's bringing up that this is going to be a mission for healing and connect

activity and togetherness. And then Tilly jumps in and says, well, you're not just going to go there and say, let's just all be friends, right? She said, well, I didn't say I was going to do that. Yeah. And she says, don't mock me. Calm down, Sutton. Hey, Sutton, have a drink.

But this is the issue that we run into with the housewives sometimes. Rips, correct me if I'm wrong, but there was not this fidelity to kumbaya in the heyday of Roney in the heyday of Potomac, right? We're just having fun. We're not doing retreats and reading mantras and talking about sisterhoods, right? There was with Vicki and Tamara a little bit of that with O.C. They'd have these big blowouts and correct me if I'm wrong, Ruby. No, no, you're right, but I was going to say with Roney, no, never, not in the original people because they're stars, because they showed up for work. And it's, it's, I, one of my dear friends is watching it for the first time and so she'll text

me just random updates about it. They're little tidbits, you know, that I've forgotten about. Like she texted me the other day and she was like, oh, my fucking God, the band that Luann hires that screaming, fuck me in the ass when Sonia is standing on the side telling Jacques that he should get away while he can. I miss them. That's all. Right.

So it's just about ripping the fucking city up. It's not about so sorry. That was so gross. I apologize. It was so gross. None of this fucking reintroducing and shedding our skin, molting into a better woman. It's like just fucking calm down.

So, Doreet is heading over to, Kyle is heading over to the impounded house of one Dorete. Can you impound a house? Can you tow a house? No, I don't think so. Okay. Is the house theirs currently?

it takes a while for a mortgage company to come put it you go to put a lean on it put a lean on it block it lock the doors yeah it could take like up to three years wow she's got a lot of time okay i do want to say this though one pet peeve of old patty here uh she's got dogs i have dogs okay when you're expecting a guess uh and you have dogs that are you know um prone to just run up to the door and when the door opens they jump all over the person entering the house like Litton. Feel free to put them in the backyard knowing that you have a guest come over. Can't stand it.

Major pet peeve of Patty. I hate that. And they're acting like you're a goddamn intruder. Right. There's nothing worse than oblivious dog ownership except a long list of things like scaming the elderly and genocide and like all of that stuff. But it's up there with us. Yeah, I would say it's damn near close.

So we get to a tried and true segment. And Robs, I want to know how you feel about this because Derreet is, I think unknowingly, because I don't think, DeReed is not the sharpest bulb in the cabinet. But she is really, really weaponizing the single-sided opportunity she has of framing her marital failings.

And it's kind of a tried and true segment at this point called Doreet's side of things, where we just learned that Doreet, or P.K. is a giant piece of shit who doesn't pay for anything except the school and the mortgage. And I'm not saying that P.K. is a upstanding citizen or anything.

But I think the lady Doth protests a little too much. Ruby, what say you? Wrong. Okay. You're wrong. I think that somebody who doesn't understand that young kids have a routine and the importance of that. And like taking the money shit away, I think they're both criminals and they're good luck. Your Honor, we have zero dollars.

What do we do? Right, right, right. You cannot go to London for three weeks and then be like, I'm back for a week and I want to spend two days with them when they have things to do those two days. Sure. You don't get to disrupt them. you fat shoestring-loving fry eating want to be a whore but not. Right, right, right, right.

I think you're making too much do you guys. No, we're not going to need them. I'm just going to take some shoe string fries. I'll just use my hands. Jesus Christ. Watching him throw that down his big fat double chin gullet. It's like a pelican eating those things. It was. I don't know how she was married to that.

Anyway, Ruby, you guys are making two different points. Yes, it's disgusting for him to think that he can just show up at any time and take the kids. He's making the point that she's basically using her platform on every level to just make this guy out to be a piece of shit. And I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve that, but I also don't know how true it is that he doesn't recognize that they have routines. I'm sure that there is some truth to it. It wouldn't surprise me in any way, shape, or form that he gets done with his, you know, halo marathon of teabagging people online and actual women in London and then just flies back to see his kids.

And I want to say this, we had heard some dirt from an insider about her behavior, which I think is true. I've talked shit about it on it before. It doesn't need to be recovered. But, a recap again. But when she showed up to that PJ, an hour and a half late, that is Van Nuys Airport. How do I know? They thank them in the credits.

She lives in Encino. That is near a street called Balboa. At the tail end on the other side of the valley of Balboa, is Van Is Air Force. So depending on what time of day, that's a seven-minute drive. Possibly 17. An hour and a half late, she gets on that plane and does not apologize to anyone. The tell is, I think she can be a horrible person.

I'm just saying it takes two. They can both be horrible. I mean. Agreed. Wholeheartedly. I think that she's a witch and she probably raises her children about 12% of the time, but wants us to think it's 100. and I totally, I agree with you, but also a Pelican shoestring-loving, not-good person.

Okay. Well, I think we've litigated this to death. I think, you know, Ruby was the defense, aka Jennifer Tilly, and I was liar-lier. Right. I forget who that woman was the defense, though. But she, her quote. She looked like Judge Judy. Yeah, red hair. Yeah. Okay. Now, Kyle jumps in here and is constantly overstepping because she's friends with P.K or something. she's uh she thinks it might be a good idea for mo to step in an act as some kind of kind of mediator i'll tell you how that will go down uh mo will schedule a 10 p m meeting with doree to go over yeah this stuff and uh why don't you send mo over to the middle east he'll try to bang all the fucking hot idf soldiers and he'll come back you go what happened he goes i have no idea

but uh kyle thinks d'reed should be a little bit more hush about her uh and her husband's issues on TV, just like she was for 15 years, where her husband openly had affairs and publicly humiliated. But she was quiet about it. Well, she put on a brave face and wore that stupid agency hat. That all worked out. All right. Can we get to the plane? Okay.

And Sedona or Robs, do you have thoughts on Mo mediating? Oh, no, I don't have any thoughts. Well, hold on. Rachel Zoe picks up little Ted. And she tells us. Can I say next? No, no. This was good.

She tells us she doesn't have a nanny, but she apparently has a driver. Uh-huh. Right? And then I'd argue when your kids can beat you in an arm wrestling match, you don't actually need, they can fend for themselves, you know, you don't need a daddy. What do you mean, Kaius is a 13 years old? Something like that. His name's little Ted.

Well, what do you do with a 13-year-old? They can't drive. They can't be home alone. They can be home alone. A 13-year-old can be home alone. They can make their own food. Patrick, there is zero, hang on a second. There is zero percent chance that you will not have a nanny when your children are 13.

Zero percent chance. We'll see about that. We'll see about that. 13. I have friends that have their kids taking Uber's by themselves at 13. Well, I mean, let's get them in a waymo at least. Okay. Anyway, at home, they call Skyler.

And of course, this kid's name is Skyler. By the way, the number one stupid rich named kid in the 2000s, Skylar. Makes so much sense. It's so basic. All right. We learned that Skyler is chill. But at some point, e-news, did you see this screenshot? Had such a slow newsday that apparently Megan Markle and the Kardashians publicists had AIDS or was on vacation or something.

Yeah. Had AIDS or was on vacation. Well, they weren't working that day. So we learned that Skyler got in a scooter accident. Yeah. And anyway, I remember that day, Dale, do you remember when I called you when I said, Dale, are you sitting down? And I go, do you know Rachel Zoe?

Her son, the one that doesn't have the obnoxious name? You're talking about Big Ted. I was like, yeah, yeah, well, I go, he's not chill right now. He fell off his skateboard. And he hurt his arm, Dale. How do you feel about that? I said, Pat, I've been beside myself. It wasn't a skateboard.

It was in e-bike. Oh, shit. Yeah. I love how the publicist is just taking. taking a day off with AIDS. It only takes a day sometimes. Yeah. I'm feeling a little under the weather.

I should shed this by tomorrow. Fucking. What is going on? The bot from South Korea that was trying to hit on me and make plans to go golfing. She said, do you do 18 or 9? I said, oh, I just go forward 18. I used to golf my wife,

but she passed a few years after a long battle with Chlimydia. like, oh, I feel so bad about that. Can we get back to the show, please? Okay, let's get to lunch with chef Omar and chef David and the superfood of the year, according to Kathy Hilton. Be calling. Okay.

So she's hosting a party, aka lunch for four. Tilly Sutton and that snooty millennial Amanda. Kathy used to work at the Wardolph. Sorry, Waldorf. Papaya Dog. Tell us about the Waldorf because it's in New York, I think. The Waldorf is, there are many Waldorf, but the Waldorf Astoria, I believe that she's referring to as in New York. And it's just, it's just a beautiful classic.

Like, it's like the plaza, like Eloise. It's a very, her thinking that table scaping is art makes perfect sense. She's also right. It is art. I thought that it was interesting to learn that her husband was an enterprising bartender and then became a bogellionaire mogul hit. Yeah, it's the American story. You know, you can too. probably not yeah probably not um 1,800 people a day at the Waldorf I bet that sounds too many

no I think it no it's it's it would be a huge it's a huge operation it's it's like the Beverly Hotel uh so we do a little dick measuring on the preferred caviar delivery uh method um and that continues throughout the lunch I mean I made to talk too much for Kathy Hilton well I want to slow down on this, because there's a little shade thrown here on caviar and what substance it should be seeded on. Kathy's preferred when she's not hosting is to dollop it on top of a baked potato like some kind of whart hog slash extremely wealthy alien hybrid. But Amanda just likes it on a cucumber. And then Sutton says, well, I'll just take it normal. The implication being, you're not normal. And this is what I love about women. A guy can just be sitting there in the same

conversation and not understand that that's a fucking dig. Right. That's how devious you guys are. We don't even know what's going on and you guys are fucking like going at it. It's a very clandestant way of throwing shade. And Ruby, thoughts on that generalization of the two genders. Great job. Loved it. And also, um, here's what to, um, no, I do agree. Dietary things, shut up, keep it to yourself. Say, I'm okay. Thank you. And then if people say things like, oh my God, why it's so good. It's amazing. Just be like, I'm annoyingly super alert or to gluten.

Because if you don't, it'll annoy everyone. And then we'll say things like I'll take the normal one. However, backing up a second, just Tilly and Sutton entering Kathy's house. Sutton enters with the energy of a very wealthy person, but a snobby, gross, yucky one who thinks that she's better than Carlos the Butler. Jennifer enters with this just airy. I spend $60,000 this morning on my crystals. How are you? Let's drink. And I thought that was a fun difference to note. Yeah, Sutton Brown turns out not that crazy of a page turn. It's more of like a flip of a Kindle, but the size is really big. So you're really just moving to the next paragraph of the same shitty page. We'll get to Sutton later. And I probably said this before about Sutton when we recapped in a season before. She does not belong in Beverly Hills. She would be so much happier living back in Georgia. Oh, yeah.

With normal friends, getting along with normal people. I think so, too. She's like a round peg trying to get through a square or something. Like, her trying to relate to this people, it's just not normal for her out here. I think this is Sutton's last season. Go ahead, Robs. She thought that her amount of money would make her, she's can, I believe that Sutton exists well when she is at the top of groups.

And I think her amount of money has largely made that possible. for her her entire life. So she decided to fuck around in LA. And none of these women aside from Chile are really, like she's so fucking rich. They just don't care because she sucks and she's not good at being rich. Right. Right. So we talk about the Glenn Center and the other women.

And Dorit, Amanda says was in emotional distress when she met her. But we start to talk about Durit's side of things. And Amanda waxes about, is. Is this where she says she spent $60,000 on crystals or is that in Sedona? You mean $10,000? Are you talking about Amanda? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, clearly didn't read the 48 laws of power, Amanda.

I thought she'd be smarter than this because anybody who's gotten to this level of money and succeeded to this would know just in polite society, you are giving away too much information. You're over bragging. You're sharing too much. Anybody that's successful like this, you have to be a good listener. Listen, listen, listen. And she's not doing that.

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I mean, oh, this is when Amanda said she had a get-to-know-you moment with Swamp Rat at that painting thing. And she said that she got to know Erica Jane in that moment. Oh, that's right. Forgive me, yeah. Sutton, Sterling. Burnley jumps in and says, don't think for a second you got to know her. Ruby, how scared were you by this moment and how weird was this moment?

This moment was the moment at a dinner party that's never happened to me or any party. But if it did, I would, I might just cry because it would be that bad. What do you do now, right? Yeah. You're talking about like there's a plane shift. And now we're all uncomfortable. And it's not a plan that we can like, oh, let's go down this chutes and ladder or just down the shoot, not the ladder. And then we can have dessert. No, no, we're in a very, you plunged us somewhere very, you down. The lap, the, the shoot was too. It was very.

You know, that happened to me recently. I had some people over and one of my friends started saying something pretty uncomfortable at the end, really towards the end. And I said, well, on that note, I think that's it for everybody. And I just. I just shut the whole day down. Well, you just kicked everybody out. This is why I still believe you'd be an amazing stand-up. You do not mind living, marinating in uncomfortableness. Uh-huh. You love it. Okay.

Let's move on to, and we mentioned Shrek, but we'll get to Shrek when we get to Sedona. So we hop on the plane and, um, zo does a little, uh, Zoh does a little fashion breakdown of the women. Ruby, do you care to approach the, myriad approaches to Sedona living. I actually, I appreciated Rachel's breakdown. I thought that she was pretty spot on. Everybody's interpretation was their own and Amanda's was very difficult to take.

Getting back to the generalizing the genders, can you imagine having to dress thematically for the places that you go to? Okay. So if I'm going to Sedona, if I'm going to Italy, if I'm going to Italy, if I'm I'm going to Japan, I will dress for two things, myself and the weather. Okay, so there's no theme. It's not Halloween. We're just going to Sedona.

Yeah, imagine like going through photos to match the palette of the landscape. Yeah. Guys don't think like that. Yeah, like if I'm going to Switzerland, I'm not going to buy a pair of clogs. Okay. It's so interesting that of all the people to have their luggage fucked up. it had to be her. Yeah, yeah. Well, we land in Sedona at the, I mean, it's essentially a memorial for minors, this place. By the way, this airport that they landed at, actually I'm not sure if it's a private airport.

My wife has missed exactly two flights out of Sedona Airport, two, two, once on that fateful day that she decided to go to a bachelor's party there and I had all you guys over and, well, we've told that story too many times. Oh, that's right. She missed her flight the next day. I wasn't there, by the way. Oh, you are. Okay. And then the next time was she went to work for that famous baseball player. And for whatever reason, she's sitting at the airport waiting for the flight to get called. She missed her flight. And she drove through the night seven hours to get back here to wake up with, be here for her kids to make up a board. Oh, look at that. Sweet. Something about Sedona. Yeah. Sedona is a little bit like RFK's food pyramid. Is that right? Yeah.

So we talk about this area and we say that there used to be a bunch of miners that worked these lands. They've all since died. And they died through the passage of time, right? Time kills everybody. But also mining accidents turn out to kill a lot of people. So anyways, let's just move on. We're on vacation, right? Imagine doing the actuary on miners.

You're like the coordinator of like hiring. you're like, hey, Jack, I think we were looking pretty good. We've hired a thousand people and the guy's like, how many you think we'll die? I don't know, like 200. Yeah. That's not bad. That's not bad.

That's not bad. 300 died last year. Yeah, that's what they had to do in that Anaconda in Butte, Montana. You know, people were just dropping like flies. And they were mostly children. So it's important that we have rules and regulations. You need coal, Dillon. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We need more coal. We also need more Kathy moments. I'm shocked that you skipped over the stone when she's in the car with Rachel and Rachel adjusts her makeup. And Kathy goes, can I be honest with you? What you just did does not look good. And I laughed out loud. I thought it was fucking amazing. And it was a very.

And Kyle is sitting behind them and just giggled. Didn't even say a word. It was like, yep, couldn't love him more. Yeah. Well, that's my bad. And that's your good because that didn't need to be brought up. Now, I thought it was very considerate. of Rachel DeZoe to ship her luggage because we've seen it time and tiny time and tiny again with I mean just name them.

Name them. Kennedy. Uh, uh, uh, what is her name? DJ AM. DJ AM. Oh. Alicia. What's her name?

I'm so sorry. Oh, uh, the, Alia. Alia. Right. Now, you can't ship a security guard, right? But they do, well, size is important. You know, they can take down a plane.

And so can Hillary Clinton, as in the case with the Kennedy. It wasn't about Rachel Zoh's luggage there. She wasn't even a part of it. It was Hillary Clinton that did that. Are you kidding me? Had nothing to do with Rachel Zelle. Okay. All right.

I think we get to dinner or something. Yeah, let's get to dinner. First, we have Beau's fertility journey. I am a huge advocate of Bo. Bo's having more children. I am not a huge advocate of her having them with Keely. Keeley will steal everything. Okay.

Including the child. Let's get to dinner. By the way, I used to do the shots that Nico was doing. Then I got fired from that shot one time. My wife kicked me because I did it too hard. and I got fired. Yeah, no, it's tough. So Amanda spent $10,000 on crystals once,

and this is where Tilly is put off because I think that Tilly is rather braggadocious at times, but you have to have something that offsets it, right? So Quirk can offset braggadociousness a little bit. Braggadociousness is really just an awful thing regardless, but Tilly can kind of squirt with the airhead thing. Amanda's just,

gosh, is this word going to get me in trouble? We'll find out. A little cunty. She's just a little cunty about it. Bragging is fine if it's sprinkled in with a bunch of modesty wrapped around it. You're talking about a humble bra. Humbleness. Yes.

Also, I think that there's a difference when Jennifer Tilly says, like, someone comments on her purse. And she's like, oh, my God, thank you so much. It's a vintage Chanel boat from the Netherlands. Jack Sparrow. It's real. It's excitement. It's really not like I want you to know that it's that this so that you're worse than me and I'm richer than you. I think she just loves shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like if I'm in a car shop and someone sees my, I don't know, copper brass dragon or something like that. I haven't played magic in a while. But I get excited. Like I'm like, yeah, I did get this. And it's perfect for this deck. You know, it's that kind of thing. When people tell me they're like, wow, you look. like 37. Thank you for shutting the fuck up and not continuing. My God.

Well, they usually don't continue. Sutton wants to build good relationships with everybody. And she's felt insecure. And I thought, I thought that this was actually kind of a moment of, dare I say beauty and transparency from Sutton Brown. She says that she's not felt pretty enough around these people and she's not felt cool enough. And now she's going to be a fun girl.

The new Sutton. Sutton Brown. Sutton Brown. You know, changing your name is, and becoming a new person, it's helped out a lot of people. Uh-huh. I don't know if you knew this guys,

but Woody Allen, his name was Alan Stewart. And then he changed his name to Woody Allen because having sex with a 16-year-old that you adopted, it didn't feel right with the name Alan. Well, he didn't have sex with her when she was 16. He was like,

what do you think about when two years we could have sex? Which is not okay. All right. Well, maybe that was a bad example. Puff, p. He did he. he was puffy then he became pitted and look how good that turned out yeah he became a different person great yeah and good on leo decaprio who um they tried to give him you know lennie wiles or something

they tried to give him a new name and he was like no thanks i'm gonna be the hottest person in the world and then i'm gonna reach an age where it is so gross what i'm doing that uh public sentiment might actually turn on me a little bit but i'll play vulnerable helpless father and I'll get them right back on my side. That foot, when he was sitting in the backseat of that car with his head out the window holding the key to the city of New York City, about a year before he was indicted, do you think he said,

there's no fucking way they're going to take me down? Who are you talking about? Puff Daddy, you don't remember when Eric Adams gave him the key to the New York City? Sorry. Sorry. My dad. Sorry. There is an incredible period of time where,

and I'm not sure if it's been taking care of now, but usually when the mayors of New York come in to, Twitter account, they all take over the same one, but they'll scrub it. And I saw that Mom Dany didn't. So there was all the tweets about Diddy, like when Eric Adams gave him the key to the city and shit. And it was, it was just very funny. Because, you know. Yeah. No, Eric Adams was fun. Not good, but fun. Good word to describe it. Fun guy. Much like Sutton Brown is going to be. And a good friend. Right. Exactly. Eric Adams. I mean, say what you will about him. Corrupt. Incompetent.

Great friend. Wow. All of the women upon hearing that Sutton Brown has reshaped, she's a little bit like, well, Pikachu to Riotu, you know? No,

we don't. Literally no one does. And Kailin, if you do, don't say. Sorry. Right. Squirtle to war turtle.

Is that better? I literally said don't say anything. I feel so betrayed by both of you. It's crazy. My bad. All of the women upon hearing of this, evolution, charm and or charmillion, go, well, okay, maybe. Hey, who you dating, Erica?

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, I'm dating a man named Shrek, baby. He benches 600 pounds, baby, and he was in Delta Force. By the way, we saw a photo of you. It looks like you were doing the walk of shame. Your hair looks like you guys just woke up. This guy is perfect for Erica Jane. He is hyper-conservative, the way the change.

she is. She's a swamp rat from Florida. And I'm not saying that, that conservatives are swamp rats from Florida. I'm just saying that swamp rats often are. Maybe she'll be on Megan Kelly's if she sticks it out with Shrek. I must say, I was shocked when I got my eyes on this guy. I did not think that was her taste. Really? Yeah. I thought it would be much more. Who was the guy that like said he'd like to eat chicks, bones and then Army Hammer. I thought that was her type of guy. He's disgraced. This guy is a big, Erica hasn't like, Erica had to fuck Tom Girardi for whatever, however many years. I think that a big, big delta force guy that can like pick up her little ozempic body and throat against a wall for the first time in however long.

Right. Combined with his weird conservative podcast fame, a world that might not be really familiar with her and all for criming. I get it, kind of. I don't know. And let's hope that wall is a Velcro roll. Yep. Are you going on a Zampick?

No, no, no, no. I'm just dumb. Okay, so we get a five-course meal, summer citrus, gazpacho, halibut, and a flowerless chocolate cake now if you're keeping track. Gluten afraid? That's four, that's four courses. So that's not five.

Oh. Yeah. The Waldorf would never. Thank you. because when I mentioned that we were missing a course and the silence kind of swept over the podcast, it felt a little bit like when Ruby was talking about the plane shift you feel at dinner parties, but Ruby popped back in and saved us and said the Waldorf would never. So I'm very appreciative of that. Amanda's courses, she talks about the tech. Do not talk about the tech. I mean, can you imagine talking about the tech?

Kathy Hilton is sitting next to you. She doesn't know how to use FaceTime. Unless it's a coder. or someone that is also boring in that business. You can't talk to a coder because the coder knows more. Amanda knows nothing about the back end of her bullshit online scam. Okay. Anyways, we end with talking to... Erica Jane, baby.

Erica Jane, baby, about Shrek. Now, she whips her head over to Sutton, I believe, who mentions it. I don't think Erica's pissed off about it. She's very transparent that she went up to him. And she was like, hey, baby. Do you want to throw me against a Velcro wall, baby? I saw him on the podcast. And that's the end of our episode.

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