Another Below Deck Podcast - Welcome Back Gretchen | RHOC S19 E2

Episode Date: July 19, 2025

Pat and Dylan are back to break down hot pot, french fries, rollers, the return of Gretchen and more from Bravo's RHOC.Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetworkhttps://www.youtube.com/@anotherbelowdeckpodcast_

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he was staring at that french fry because it was the only one left, you know? Because Emily ate all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's an adult. Can I tell you know? Because Emily ate all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's an adult. Can I tell you what? Yeah. I thought you were going to say that he was examining

the French fry because he thought that it was his father. That's where I thought you were going with that. Is that dad? Hi, hello and welcome to another brand spanking new episode of Bad Television. That is long for bad TV and I'm Dylan. And I'm Pat. Hello. Hello. And we are here speaking like this

because we are here to talk about the real housewives of Orange County. Right. What have you been up to? Me? Yeah. Huh. Not much.

Our power went out last night. Ugh, hate. Oh my God, Dylan. Okay. So our power went out at like 6 p.m. and didn't come back on until nine. Boy, you're just lost in the forest when the power goes out, like Wi-Fi doesn't work, oh my God, it was torture.

Anyway, I had been recording the- You know, I'm sure there are some naturalistic people, some self-sufficient survivalists out there listening, because we've done advanced analytics on our audience, and that actually is a sizeable shock. Is that true? Yeah. I get you go, oh, how sad is that?

Somebody going three hours without Wi-Fi. Or power. We had to get candles. You know what? Lay off, OK? We're addicted to our phones and our internet, OK? So if that goes away for three hours, we may fucking kill someone.

Right. Although I was fine with it. However, I was like really anxious because it screwed up the recording of Orange County at the 32 minute mark. I don't have five minutes. It's missing. Oh, that's all right. I got you, babe. Thanks, pal. Yeah, no problem. Um, I really want to go to the movies. Couple good ones out, right? Yeah. Superman? Yep. How many times are they gonna just, I guess they just still only stop when they stop making money.

Well, he's got a dog in this one. That's cute. I can't get out of the house though. I said, I said to my wife the other night, you think I could go to a movie by myself? She said you just went to a movie by yourself. I go, Oh, God. And and it's true. I can't be going to movies by myself. I got a kid now she needs help. Right? Oh, but the kids sleep. I really do want to go to the

movies once. Once poor Lucy is over this little colic thing. Yeah, she'll sleep 18 hours a day. Both of you will kind of Dylan, once poor Lucy is over this little Kolek thing, she'll sleep 18 hours a day. Both of you will kind of have your lives back, which is a cruel joke of life, because a year from now, you will not have your life back. Right, right, right. Well, I resent you calling it little

just because it's the worst thing that's ever happened to, I think, anybody outside of, well. I call their little Lucy I didn't minimize Colick being a horrible thank God cuz I was like my god but yeah I really do you know like you know I could rent f1 on my TV it is gonna feel like a loss you know I mean mm-hmm I'm definitely you want to go see Eddington Why don't you and me have a gay little day together? What's Eddington? It's the new Ari Aster movie. Really? Yeah I could do that. You want to do that? Yeah You know the Vista I go I they only play film. Yeah, you go. It's like what what are you doing?

Yeah, why is rush hour playing And why is Rush Hour on film? Why don't you have a fucking movie? I drove by that billboard and I was questioning it. It's like, god damn it. No one needs to see that movie. No one needs to see Rush Hour. They made like three of those. In the theater on film.

Like, what are we doing? What kind of ironic nightmare are we living in, right? So we're here to talk about Real Housewives of Orange County. Amazing episode. Yeah, fantastic. What's our rating system? Tits? No. Oranges. Oranges? No, it seems a little generic even for us. I really like it. You know, sometimes you can think in the box. You know, everybody says think out of the box, but it's like, okay, we have a open heart surgery. Somebody's like, what if we used a spray paint?

It's like, let's stay in the box. Yeah, yeah. I think oranges is great. Oranges, okay, let's do that for now. Okay. You wanna give your oranges? We could do strip mall sushi restaurants. Oh yeah or wait. Strip mall pho places. What those signs all of all those tacky restaurants they all look the same they're like what you call like neon signs. Day glow yeah. Yeah day glow. Yeah. Strip malls with it's pretty a little little long for a rating system but yeah. Neon signed steak joints and

strip malls. How many of these? Now you're thinking outside the box. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But how many oranges do you give this episode? I loved it. Yeah. It was really fun. I love when you love an episode. Oh my god. OK, so I want to talk about Gretchen, who I really liked. She is back. We can hate her because while her fiance was dying of cancer, she was banging another guy named Steve at Bass Lake.

But we can appreciate the new Gretchen, who's been waiting, biding her time, studying Tamrat. Was his name Steve or was his name Slade? No. She got with Slade after. Oh, no, no, no. God, she was an OG in this kind of vertical. She was 27 and super hot.

And she was dating a guy in his late 60s that was in the F1 business or something like that. Oh, cool, cool. Yeah, and he rolled snake eyes. Okay. And while he was in the hospital with his dying breath, she was up fucking a guy named Steve at Bass Lake. Tamrat famously called her out for that.

And Bass Lake is a location or is it a fishing store? It's a location that she went with her family. Now you've amended rolling sevens to rolling snake eyes. Rolling snake eyes is the two ones, and that is death. That's death? Mm-hmm. OK. Yeah.

Some fucking listener a couple years back was like, you know, there's not a seven on a single die. It takes two. So when you roll a seven, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. We know there aren't sevens on dice.

What kind of freaking moose knuckles do you think we are? Let me continue. Yeah. I love that Gretchen will be a torturous thorn in Tamrat's side this entire season because exactly what I just laid out. Gretchen hates her fucking guts. She attributes her to her fucking with her life

and it's nice to have someone finally here that has nothing to lose. Yeah. It's gonna be a great season. Yeah, it's gonna be a great season. It was lovely to see Gretchen introduced. I give the episode 90 oranges just for that. I gave 14 oranges by the way.

Also one last note. Love the fourth wall being broken down to talk about the gallery, which is that photo shoot that they do where they all look beautiful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shannon Bador just screaming and stuff. Shannon Bador is unwell. She is, but let's talk about Katie for a second, D, yeah. Shana Bador just screaming and stuff. Shana Bador is unwell. She is, but let's talk about Katie for a second, Dillard. Katie is psychotic.

She is not good at this. No. If we go back to her first season, she came out of the gates, and I appreciated it, with a storyline that she knew a paparazzi that had claimed that the DeBros called a paparazzi. At Disneyland. That's right.

Now that story went nowhere and I was able to forgive her for that. But now I realize I'm seeing patterns. She, behind the scenes, and she doesn't do it well, tries to make a lot of problems for people. Yeah, she's a little corncob pipe and I don't even know what that means. But she is.

An idiot. A real idiot I don't even know what that means but she is an idiot real idiot You're actually pretty much right about that cuz she's not good at this No, it's getting caught and you have to be Teflon if you're gonna be this bad like Tamara is really bad at it, right? Well, she's gotten better though. I mean she's like doing Intel She has her little mini doesn't, but it always gets back that she was the origin of the evil. And she just says, I don't care. I cop to it.

That's it. You know? You can't have paper mache all up and down your arms and legs and be this shady, you know? This messy, you know, bitch? I'm starting to get concerned that Katie's husband, Matt, might also be a tool bag too, and a con artist. Well, we'll see.

Takes one to know one. I mean, takes one to marry one. That's what I meant to say. What is with the dramatic vignetted recap of this fucking show? It's like, I know who you are. So you're referring to that circle maze thing at the golden door

By the way, the golden door is gonna be going out of business in the next five years Julia Roberts ain't popping in there anytime soon on not after this stink. No this place looks like a run-down You know what? Can I tell you something you famously said that when restaurants start doing karaoke nights, it's death. Mm-hmm when a high level expensive wellness center starts having housewives there, that's the death rattle. That's the slip and the last-ditch effort to try to save it. And ooh, how wrong you were.

When reality TV shows are allowed to do, like, breach what used to be a secret like thing, it's over. And that's what happened to Geisha House. That's right. I remember Geisha House. That's what happened to Geisha House. The thing was massive on Hollywood Boulevard.

Everyone, you couldn't get in that place. And then suddenly you could. And then you're like, hey, you know what's that? Imposter could and then you're like hey you know it's that imposter syndrome where you're like hey I'm in the Geisha house yeah I'm like why would they let someone like me in here yeah it's because Wilfred Valderrama is no longer saying he wasn't a partner in Ashton Kutcher anymore? Yo Mama is no longer a hit show on MTV too. Right. Yeah.

That was an odd show. That was an odd show. But let's get into this show, which is also an odd show. We get to the Shape Shop studio. Oh no. Well we bounce around. We bounce around. The usual arrangement.

Shannon picks up Sophie at the airport and Then we like yeah, we drunk or not You know Len, let's just be honest should Shannon Bador be behind the car or the wheel of any car. Let's ask someone You know, I speak dog I went to school for this for like three weeks Hey, you don't have to speak dog to know that's a resounding no. Exactly. You can hear it. Yeah. The longing, the helplessness. Tell us Archie. Yeah, he said no fucking way.

What else did he say? Well, later in the episode when Sophie and Shannon sit down he's like can I can I come live with you? Yeah I've always changed myself a New York kind of guy. Alright so let's get to the Shape Shop studio pick a body roller full body lymphatic drainage massage. This is Orange County and everyone is obsessed with wellness activity. So this is a place that has giant foam rollers with red lights that shoot up into your vaginal crevice.

Emily wants to replace her husband, Shane, with this giant pillar of spots. I want to talk about this. So these ladies are resting their coochies on gigantic vibrators. And that's when Emily and I. Although, I mean, you and I are not well-versed in vibration technology.

I think that there are very nuanced patterns. You know, this feels very blunt force. This feels like you're trying to break into, you've got past the moat, and now you're trying to get inside and slaughter everyone. You know, it's just there's no. A medieval weapon of sorts? Yeah, it's not very delicate. You know, it's just there's a medieval weapon of sorts. It's not very delicate. Well, the ladies seem to be having a good time on it. Anyway,

and not so many words, Emily basically says that Shane is an annoying, disgusting pig and I'm putting them on Divorce Watch. I see it coming in 2027. I wonder if they're, and sorry if this is crass, but like I wonder if the employees there have to this is crass, but like, I wonder if the employees there have to kind of interface with people who are like, I came. Is that like, is that, yeah, that's completely normal. It happens all the time. It's fine.

It's what we have mops for. Now I have a few things to say about the Shape Shop. First off, the second it comes on the TV, I'm sitting next to my lovely wife, Sharisi. She goes, Oh, I've been there. I'm like, of course you have, because it's the new fucking, uh, newest dumb wellness trend that will last for three years. And then you calling your wife basic. No, I'm not. Um, people,

females, uh, specifically females, they get excited about this new trend. Um, but here's what's going to happen to the Shape Shop or any of the affiliate locations that it has. In three years, their lease will be taken over by a Menchies. And let me tell you why. Oh, for sure. Menchies never go out of business.

That's right. Want to know why, Dylan? Because it's something that people love. Who doesn't love ice cream and gummy bears with cookie dough balls? They're forever. And I don't actually ever like that period, full stop ever like that.

You know when you said I don't like that kind of candy? I don't ever mix. Who are these lunatics that are putting mochi and Heath bar on top of one thing? Who are these lunatics that are having sour gummy worms and chocolate chips on one thing? It's like- Six- six year olds. Yeah, six year olds. Yeah. I'll do a gummy bear, but it's going to be all gummy. Oh, that's right. You know what, Mike, you know what my favorite, you know, this is micro regional lore with, with Dylan and Pat. Do you remember

studio city yogurt? Mm hmm. Laurel Canyon. That was like a yogurt shop. That was like, we're not a franchise, we have disgruntled employees that have been here for a while. They're hateful in there. Yogurt shop. Also, if you remember the other little hiccup, they only took cash, you sons of bitches. Only took cash and I always got grasshopper mint with gummy bears. Wow. Now that was a clash of flavors that somehow worked. But you mentioned that, you mentioned that Emily wanted to get, what else did you mention? Divorce chain. They're on Divorce Watch. I've called every divorce in Housewives history since I've been doing a podcast, every single one. You were, you, you said that, that females, uh, get roped into fads.

And well, no, everyone does. I'm saying these retreat type of like, uh, physical could help you. Like dudes do steroids. Okay. Well, dudes, dudes do this thing where they go, Oh, fuck. There's an everybody's using this new putter. It's like, I got's using this new putter. It's like, I gotta get this new putter. It's like 550 bucks, but it's gonna help, you know?

I'm not talking about myself. Of course. I'm talking about the proverbial man. Okay, by the way, I felt bad for the staff at the shape shop because it's worth mentioning that Tamra dressed like a 15 year old here. She looked absolutely ridiculous. I think she raided Daria's closet before she filmed yeah I get you want to still be trendy and

whatnot but at some point you look absolutely ridiculous I remember when we tried to force a playdate between Daria and the gossipy one from Katie's Loins that's right and Daria was like I'm not into this I'm not I'm not into this mess you know but I actually think Kylie was the one that gave her the cold shoulder Katie's loins. That's right. And Daria was like, I'm not into this. I'm not into this mess. No. But I actually think Kylie was the one that gave her the cold shoulder. Because Kylie's a little, uh.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Not that far, according to Newton. Shannon, Lazer, Botox, and Bush. She's not touching below the neck before she's found love, which is fine. But Archie probably has some thoughts. Yeah. Well, I'm sure he does.

But before we get to that, Patty has a joke here. Shannon and Katie, they meet up. Shannon updates us on her cosmetic regimen these days. All the work is being done above the neck, and her cooch looks like Rapunzel's hair. Small children can use her pubes as a robe. OK, let's not be too crass about it. Pubes are trending.

Somebody said Bush is back the other day. Bush is back. What are you talking about Bush is back? Bush is back. Yeah. For the better part of the last two decades, everybody's fully shaved. And now everybody's like.

Well, not fully shaved. For the most part, yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Bush is back. Yeah? Yeah. Bush is back. Bush is back. Wow. Mm-hmm.

I think it's not. Well, Archie's like, listen, I can take you driving me headfirst into a condominium, but let's clean up down there, OK? I mean, freaking children could climb a freaking route, whatever you said. That was so disgusting. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah well, um, oh I was a one last note on how much the golden door sucks all the ladies are

Cased in those foam socks and they just Shannon Katie They have that unlikely union and they basically all hint at that. The golden door has really gone downhill are the gold? Yeah, the gold. door. It's disgusting. But Katie and Shannon are talking. Katie goes, listen, I'm very remorseful for hiring various different online assassins to take down the monsters on this cast. But I think I have an idea.

Hot pot. It's going to take care of everything. We're going to do a hot pot. So Katie also makes the case that she doesn't fight back when the girls attack her because she's not calculated. Especially when she's calling former employees or of castmates that she has a vendetta against and getting that nanny to talk shit on that podcast but other than that she definitely is not Not calculated. Well somebody who is very calculated is Tamar judge who I I think the women on this show are They're probably the most awful across the franchises right whoo there's some contenders there man

Yeah, we just did a recap of Miami. There's some horrible people that oh, how could we not pitch it? It's a patreon.com slash another podcast that oh great. Yeah, yeah exclusively there. We're doing Miami Tamra Always wears me down by the end of the season, right? I I'm kind of in awe of how disgusting she is and then by the end of the season I am just confused and saddened by how someone could put this much Malintent and energy into what she puts it into you know, it's really I mean she is a Bag of vomit so anyway, she has a bag of vomit.

So anyway, she has some tea about what Katie did to Shannon. Well, a couple of things here, and I love this. She calls Katie a silent assassin. It's worth mentioning. I believe all assassins are pretty quiet by nature, you know? Can you imagine a loud assassin? Yeah.

Hello, I'm here to kill you. Who is it? You might want to find a safe space or call the authorities because I plan on wrapping a wire around your neck. Hello? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, dumb joke.

Katie, tell us Shannon. No, it's not a dumb joke. I mean, imagine, you know, any of the various hits they were trying to pull off in The Godfather. You know, imagine if they didn't have the... I mean, let's go to the restaurant with the cop and... Oh, that was a great scene. And then what was that guy's name?

That cop almost killed his dad and the other guy sitting next to him put out the hit on it. Why would you not think that Michael Corleone was going to come in there and trying to find a way to kill you? Well, so imagine if Michael was like, listen, I gotta say I'm, I'm still really upset about this whole thing. In fact, I've placed a gun, not me, but one of my associates,

in the bathroom, and I plan on going to grab that thing and killing you both right here. It would never have happened. No. You have to be quiet. Because when he went to the bathroom, I'd say, I think we should get out of here. Yeah, or just shoot him when he comes back. That's right.

What was that, what was that fan, I'm drawing a blank here. I woke up at 4.30 this morning, had a beautiful morning with my daughter, but I think I'm suffering the consequences. I'm a little fatigued right now. I got to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sleep deprivation actually has comedians think out of the box a little bit more. You're funnier this way, trust me. Oh, really? Well, we've talked about the dangers of being out of the box, but go ahead. Oh yeah, so Katie tells Shannon that she has regrets, which I'm pretty sure she's admitting that she did call that nanny and get her on that podcast. Salazzo. Oh Salazzo, okay. Shannon reminds her to just say sorry, and Katie will, at her get to know her party. Now this is where I might have had a, might have missed a little bit, but we'll see.

All right, so meanwhile Tamrat has the scoop on that gallery shoot in 2024. Yeah. And this is kind of juicy. Katie was talking to that husband of hers who she doesn't really love. He's Mark. And anyway, she's talking to him and then she fucking sees,

she sees Shannon walking in. She sees a storm brewing. That's right. And so of course, she just clicks off her phone with her husband. As you do, you go, oh, I'm going to record this and send it to my husband. In my notes, yeah. In my notes.

And I love how useless Meatball is. She's like the, if there was like a omniscient narrator that was Monty Python-like redundant for no reason, you know, I can't believe she did that, you know? She's got real legal things going on with that. It's like, what are you doing here? I hate meatball. All right, so Katie shared the video with her husband of,

I think that Shannon might've had a couple, one too many Xanax and then- They had drinks. Right. Yeah, of course. Yeah. And Long Island. It had reminded me of last season of Real Housewives

of Salt Lake City, where Brittany had made that same error on that bus, where she whipped out her phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a big no. Very callous. It's a big no. Because they're already recording, right?

So Shannon's fridge is disgusting. And Sophie is excited. Yeah. In that fridge, I don't know if you looked close enough, Dill, there was like several bottles of urine in there. Yeah. No, I saw. Yeah.

And yeah. She's pissing in bottles and keeping them cold. And that is a sign of somebody who's going through something. So prayers to Shannon. But Shannon is going on... Honestly, you know, I speak dog and whatnot. That's cry for help there. He's asking Sophie to steal mom's car keys and throw them in the fucking ocean. So Shannon is going on or went on a show called Love Hotel.

I watched it. It was horrible. And she met a man named Earl. Yeah, that was never going to work out. And it's never going to work out now. She's kissed four people, but she is not a kissing bandit. And I would have to say, uh, I think you might be a kissing van. Well, she ain't ever kissed anybody. She says they all kissed her. I think he might be a kissing bandit. Well she ain't ever kissed anybody she says they all kissed her. Yeah I think you might be a kissing bandit but Archie is led in through the front door now I don't know what kind of front yard situation they have going on there but it is a little odd for a dog to be pawing at the front of the home. It screams neglect to me and I completely understand why Archie is crying out to any god in the pantheon that will have him He wants to go to New York. Yeah, he wants to go on there New York

the nightlife the pizza The nuts on the side of the road life overall the life overall I mean imagine how many pigeons he could gum down out there. All right, so Shane and Emily, she talks about her son. Now, we talked last week about how, listen, he's a picky eater. It doesn't mean you have to send him through a gauntlet of specialists. But today, we found out that he is blacklighting

individual French fries, which likely indicates he is autistic. Now, hold on. Even though I'm a comedian, he's a kid, so I'm not going to make jokes about the kid and what might, you know, him examining a french fry in a movie theater, but I'm pretty sure he was staring at that french fry because it was the only one left, you know, because Emily ate all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's an adult. Can I tell you what? Yeah.

I thought you what? Yeah. I thought you were going to say that he was examining the French Rye because he thought that it was his father. That's where I thought you were going with that. Is that dad? Greasy, empty, little. Exactly.

Yeah. So Shane says that he really resents her whole, you know, as a mother thing. And they are on two completely different pages when it comes to this thing. I'm telling, Dylan. I do think that Shane is closer to being right about this, but I completely understand Emily's panic. Let's not panic, right? The boat is ripping in half right now. The worst thing we can do is panic, right? We have to keep our breath steady because once we hit that water, it's going to go. So we need as many reserves as we can.

I think this is the dynamic of a couple. This is how you make good decisions. You kind of you just bounce back but um If you don't think that she's putting out the little teaser for what's to come in their marriage. It's happening now This is how it always starts. You think we're not connected. We're not seeing eye to eye anymore. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, Shane Get the best divorce attorney in Orange County right now old Patty's telling you to do that and Shane Shane How did you not think that this was gonna happen? You've been waddling around the place Drinking big gulps leaving big gulps all over the place and not passing the bar like come on

so Katie heads over to the bookie and Jen's house and her husband was hesitant in the past to get to know him because he was a tanned butt plug who was addicted to Malibu rum and also crime, evidently. So I understand his hesitancy. But I was confused as to why there was staff working a four-person dinner, especially when you don't have any money.

Well, that's what you do when you don't have any money. You try and make other people think that you have money so that you can get investors. Who do you think is a more disastrous car crash? Butt plug and Jen or Shane and Emily? Because I mean, there is no way that Jen and this guy are. No. Zero chance. He's got, next season the storyline will be

that he is bankrupt. Oh yeah. And so she'll be homeless again. Yep. That's what happens. It's amazing that certain people are just magnets and conduits for of for for horrible people Well, you can tell all right So one could argue that Ryan's trying to bury the hatchet the bookie

He walks in as Matt sitting there and he goes to tequila tacos and good friends Excuse me that guy over there didn't want anything to fucking do with you last time you guys saw each other He hates you. Yeah, he actually doesn't want to be thinks're fucking sketchy. And I wouldn't want to be either because like imagine you know when I see you I I'm really happy for lots of reasons but one of the things that I took for granted is with you I've never had to think about possibly being deposed as a result of just having a conversation with him, right? With Ryan, it's a little bit different. Also, he's a little butt plug who's addicted to Malibu rum. I cannot, it's going to be the best storyline of next season. That money only lasts so long,

or we'll hear we're downsizing to a condom. Right? That's the first step. You sell the house. And I love Jen, but when we get to that point, we're gonna be like, I mean, what are you doing? You have? 72 children You know Alright, so it turns out that it's not just Katie and golfer who are going to be heading over We are reintroduced to Gretchen and Slade and her filtered nose. Yeah, I think that's discussed by Heather Bro and Tamrat. It was odd to see Heather slamming down on a Substantive meal. Oh you have a happen burger. It was bizarre to see her eat something with mayonnaise. Yeah, I was

You know the DeBros, you know, I hate their guts Everything always seems like a move. Like, could that have been for Heather DeBro to squeak out 10 grand from Habit Burger? Never put anything past those two. Yeah, Habit Burger sounds fantastic, by the way. You know, I'm not a fan. Okay.

But I'd welcome them as a sponsor if they ever wanted to come aboard. All right, so a couple things here. But I'd welcome them as a sponsor if they ever wanted to come aboard. Okay. All right. So a couple things here. The filtered photo, I have a couple friends on Facebook that do this where the photo is so blurry, it makes you look like an, you start to look like an avatar. You look like a ghost.

Or a ghost. Don't do that. This is the rule. No, don't do that. If you're ugly, just don't post the pictures. You know that? That's right. You go like, I think the person's like, well, I kind of look kind of good in this, but there's

just a couple things that I like about it. And then they start funneling with it slippery slope big time before you know it. The park bench behind you is going to have some odd black hole kind of suck vacuum pattern and people are going to be like, oh. Look at the photo and go, maybe not a winner, not my date today. I don't care if you're in Vegas vacationing. Right, right, right. Don't post it.

Be present with the experience, right? It's not for anybody else. So we are reintroduced, like I said, and we're're gonna have quite a bit of a feud between Gretchen and Tamara Oh that's coming. Which I'm very very excited about. For those unfamiliar with Slade and Gretchen, can you give a little background on their love and I know she was banging Steve at Best Lake but Slade and Gretchen are a really really powerful couple. They've been together for a very long time. And as she touches on later in the episode, a lot of people had judged them as just being like something

in the- Bang buddies. That's right. Slade was on episode one of Real Housewives of Orange County. He has worked his way through most of that cast. Yeah. Yes. He, forgive me, he had a hot little Latina chick that was on season one. He was also banging Vindi, Vicky Gundleson's secretary,

who married a millionaire and then her son went off and murdered somebody. Yeah. And so he's just made his way. He's always been in that universe. So of course, when Gretchen was the new hottie on the show, we all knew that he would go for her and he did. And he got that girl. Yeah. Yeah. I frosted and I've sauced them all. He was where he made all his money was that real estate bubble of 2006 and seven.

That's where he made all his money. And then he was just a hedge his bets or something. No, he was doing all those fucking phony baloney mortgage loans. And then he was just hedges bets or something no he was doing all those fucking phony baloney mortgage loans and then he was broke and that's when he meant Gretchen oh okay well it's good to see a redemption story for such a lovely human being the old guy that she was engaged to that she was cheating on with Steve at Bass Lake he bought her a condo before he died oh really really that's nice and sadly enough I think they touch on it.

His son died at 22. That poor kid was sick his entire life. Ugh, god, that's my biggest fear. All right, let's get to Tamara. In HD? Being really disgusting and proving that some people cannot be helped by electrolyte drinking therapists.

Tamara accuses Jen of wanting to be like her. Single white female. She used to be fat and she says, look, look at this picture and how disgusting and fat she is. And then she says, she actually went into a salon and said, can you put Tamara's old tracks in my head? Which can't be true. And Tamara, no one wants to be like you.

You are, you are well on your way to being something that you would find in Jumanji, just something really scary and chasing, you know? Tamrat has really become true evil. Yeah. And that's on display here when she showed exactly how soulless she is, when she brought up that Grayson, who's Slade's son, that his funeral had to be paid for with a GoFundMe,

because Slade sucks. Those things, you can keep those close to the vest. You don't need to put that kind of stuff out there. Yeah, she's a fucking disgusting human being. So let's get to hot pot. Emily heads over first. This is very awkward. She tells her husband that she'd rather have a hot pocket than hot pot. And I would say right, you are, you are not ready for this kind of spice. It is going to wreck havoc on your butthole. Okay?

That's what Hot Piper is. All right. So this is that part of the episode I missed, so you need to take care of this. All right. Well, the Lord, we're heading over there and Gretchen, you know, Gretchen is being asked by Jen, like, are you prepared for the kind of tension and animosity that you're about to bear down and witness and be a part of and a victim of? And she says, you you know my favorite Bible verse

Because all of these women are Oh God fearing Wow She says my favorite Bible verse is the Lord will fight for you. You need only be still Cool that is really really cool It's also not a Lord that I want any part of because I really don't want a Lord who sees these bitches squabbling and goes, you know what, I've got a clock in here. I want a Lord who's a little bit more focused on the bigger picture. Sure. But you know I think that these are you know little things that we convince ourselves of, you know what I'm talking about. I mean imagine the Lord

would step in on this hot pot feud. He's working on tsunamis right now. Yeah, totally. All right, so Tamra versus Gretchen. And also, Heather is drinking champagne at this restaurant. I'm sure they have the champagne. They probably have champagne because they're like, there are going to be some snooty white women that

come in here and need champagne. Right. Also, maybe people want to celebrate, I don't know, but it's very odd to me that Heather has to drink champagne everywhere she goes. One thing of note, and I notice that as well, is that Tamrat reminds us that Gretchen had reached out to her estranged daughter, Sydney. Yeah. Would she, I wouldn't call it reaching out. No one would call it reaching out. Okay. She said, you made contact with my daughter and she said I commented on a Facebook post of hers still not a great thing to do but the way that Tamra's trying to frame this is just dishonest and and and it wrong you know here's the other odd part they both say that they haven't seen or talked to each other in 14 years. They live in Orange County.

They absolutely must have. Now Gretchen sits down and Tamrat and her exchange niceties. And Gretchen is, clearly sees this as a warfare tactic used by Tamrat right before she strikes. Yeah, now Gretchen says it's, you know, she's looking for the expression and, you know, the producer says it's the same old dog and pony show and she says I knew there was a bitch

involved and I like Gretchen she's like an old drunk church you know what I'm talking about but before we get to that we'll wrap the episode with this because the the the storms badore clandestine taping thing gets brought up. Yeah, now, Dil, sorry, my apologies for this, but I had to note on the restaurant itself. Of course. This restaurant is the molested cousin of a Korean barbecue restaurant. What the fuck is this?

They've tricked you into showing up to a place and now going to reach for your own food that you're going to cook. Yeah, well it's Chinese, so it's a Chinese version of communal dining. And you know, it's very, very popular and a beautiful and rich culinary tradition. It is a little, you know, labor intensive. You do have to put your own stuff in there. But it's fun, you know. it's like if laser tag was soup. But anyways, we get to this recording and Kate

Meatball brings up the fact that Katie did this and there's an accusation that Katie sent it to jugs. Katie says I didn't send it to jugs, which probably means she did send it to jugs because she's an evil agent of chaos who's bad at being an evil agent of chaos and says, I didn't send it to Juggs, I sent it to my husband, which is not a really great cover story.

Like, what are you doing recording me without my knowledge? Ever, period, it's never a good thing to do. And same old dog and pony show, Shannon Storms-Bedore gets up and leaves and says, I can't have this. We talked about it last season. The producers must have zip ties everywhere Shannon Bedore goes. We cannot have her get up every time. Every single time. It's like, what are we doing here? We want the guts. We want the glory. And so do you. Get in

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