Another Below Deck Podcast - Who the Fuck is Jess Timmons? | RHOC S19 E12

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Ruby, Pat and Dylan are back to break down 98 Degrees, recording studios, self defense, heart attacks, pranks and more from Bravo's RHOC.PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/anotherpodcastnetwork  YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@badtvpod  INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/badtvpodcast/?hl=en

Uh, Gretcher's, uh, and Slay discussed that rumor from 12 years ago. And, uh, she's mad at Slay because he mentioned, uh, Tamara at having sex with Jess Timmons from 98 degrees. And there, uh, then there's also that, uh, who the fuck is just Timmins? Just, sorry. Hi, hello, and welcome to a brand-svang new episode of That TV. I'm Dylan, that's Pat. Great to be here. Kaylin's here.

Hello. And who else is joining us? But none other than Baby Gorgeous herself. Ruby Renn is calling in from Parts Unknown. We have no idea where she is. Hey, Ruby. Hi, Dylan. I am just in New York.

Hi, Pat. Hi, Kaylan. How are you? Good. Thanks. You know, I heard New York, there's a problem out there. There are hordes of Muslims running around all. over the place killing people that's what i heard to see you it's good to see you good to see you too rub so listen we are here to talk about politics housewives of no i was doing an impression of a

a dying elder conservative jew in brooklyn was that not clear nope but now it is thank you for the clarity okay great guys love everyone love all Except for the people that you hate. Yeah. To those I would say hate vigorously. I thought that you were going to say, except for this episode, which I hated. You hated this episode. No, no, I did not.

I thought that Dylan was going to say, love everybody except for this episode who you can hate. But he said except for the people who you can hate, which, you know. Yeah, I mean, it's not practical to love everybody. I'm so sorry, Jesus Christ. Are you going to tell me to not love, or are you, hey, hey, Jesus Christ. Are you going to tell me to love Tamara? What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what's wrong with you, he's a horrible person. Go ahead, ribs.

If you are a dog and people are like, why doesn't your dog like everybody coming up to it and, like, like to be pet? And why isn't your dog a typical golden retriever? Well, are you? Do you like every person that you meet? Right. Right. Right. Thank you.

So. And today I'm having a. grape aid spin drift Kaelin did your dad famous actor from Star Wars Bring these in He did Okay

That's pretty cool You know what's kind of Can I have these Am I allowed to have these? You know what's kind of cool I don't like this one Dylan showed up And he had to watch Orange County or something

And to wrap up You know to watch it So he could talk about it And Kailin and I We're hanging out We're watching Alien Earth together And his dad was in the best aliens movies ever you know i put that on the other day except for prometheus i put the aliens

on the other day because we were talking about it and i'm all into alien right now the problem i have with the alien movies there's no eyeball it's all xenomorph i want the eyeball and everything i love the eyeball i love the eye you're losing name i love the eyeball rubs you got to watch alien earth it's so good i'm so passionate about alien earth i really love alien earth somebody said the other day i recommended it they said it's ass it's six out of ten i said uh How, what are you talking about? What do you expect out of a television show? That's so good.

Anyways, this show is really, really good too, and that's the show that we're here to talk about. Ruby, please. Any housekeeping? Salt Lake City, a much better version of this show. We are doing at patreon.com slash another podcast now. Another call to action. We need to get to 2,000 reviews.

You guys are really lazy out there. If you're not paying us five bucks, the least you can do is go over to Apple podcast, what's it called? Yeah, see, can we have a quorum real quick? Yeah. I don't like it. You know, the audience is very lazy. You said it just now.

I did? Yeah. Oh. So if they're late, the audience is super lazy and they don't. I don't want to give them too many things to do. Oh, because they might ding us. No, they'll just get confused. You know, they get very confused.

They start walking into walls. No, no, no, I didn't say that. We didn't say that. Maybe we should cut that out. So, um, Patreon.com slash another podcast network. Real Housewives and Salt Lake and also you lazy sons of bitches. Go to the iTunes, raise your reviews, leave five stars, kind words. Um, let's get into this episode.

I mean, I don't know much ado about different what this one. I mean, it's an episode of Real Housewives of Orange County. I thought it was a real episode of Real Housewives of Orange County. I thought it was a real episode of Real Housewives of Orange County. I'm going to give it however many pots I give it. I mean, four. How many tits do you give it? Six.

Ruby, go ahead. Okay. I, first off, this, was this a rough start to the episode? Oh, big time. For some reason, I was mid, I thought my television malfunctioned didn't love that. Oh, I thought you were talking about this episode. because we said the audience were idiots. And then I did that impression of the Brooklyn guy who hates Muslims.

I thought you were talking about this. She's getting great. Okay. Yeah, please. Yeah, thank you. Speaking of tits, Gretchen, no. The outfit was distracting to me. Oh, my God.

And again, I do what makes you feel good, but don't do that because. And it was less, Laura. Crofton, much more Sonia. I thought it was a... It was much more Sonia and Mortal Kombat, Sonia. I thought it was Barbie doll winter and, but much weirder looking. Barbie doll jungle. Yeah, but much weirder.

I don't like Gretchen anymore. I love all of that. I didn't think that this was a great episode. I did, I love a Tamer storm out. So actually, I'm going to, I'm going to take that back. I'll throw that back up to the top. Yeah. Um, he, Archie is a little overweight.

I'm getting concerned and 64 tits. Did it? I was supposed to walk the fucking dog when you're passed out by noon. That's a good question, Pat. Right? Yeah. Yeah. The reason, you know, they talk about Shannon not saying anything on the ride back.

And it wasn't because she was mad. She was going through D.T. She can't drink in front of you guys the way she does around Archie. No, no. But anybody see that too? Tomb Raider with Alicia Vikander? Nobody watched it. That was the, uh, was it a prequel or was it, uh, Ruby, did you watch it? Yes, and her dad with the map at the beginning. And yes, I did watch that movie.

Was it good? Um, I actually did think that it was good. It was very formative to me because the, the, the island that they get to. Well, are you talking about the one with Jolie or Alicia Vakander? No, I'm talking about Alicia. Okay. Who, who ironically, said formative. It came out like three years ago, didn't it? Yeah, many. But it just in, I should preface, in my relationship, I had a very, very weird dream after I watched that movie and I met Ryan. Spoiler alert, my fiance is white, that his family, who I had not met at this point, were large, large, and I never dream. Sorry for the crime, because I'm always high. So I rarely dream. I woke up. I had a dream that Ryan's family was made up of solely large African, like warrior kings and queens. And we had to be in a canoe.

going to that island from that movie. Oh, wow. And I have never forgotten it. So, yes, I have seen that movie. Wow. Had an impact. That's super crazy because Ruby is stoned all the time. All the time.

We're all on something. And so she doesn't dream. So to have that dream about Ryan's family who are all just people from New Jersey being African tribal, people in a canoe. And it's what we're saying is Tomb Raider is important to a lot. lot of fucking people. Yeah. Okay.

It's an important film. Yeah. All right. Here's my tits. No Katie. This is the third episode with no Katie. This is crazy. I think this is...

Do we get her back ever? I think we do. This is when last season they said Katie quit the show. Do you remember those rumors or whatever? Yep. And that might have been during this period. Listen. If you're going to be a sketchy bitch,

you need to flame out, right? You can't just have a manila folder and have a matcha and then we never see you again, right? If you're going to come on, we need to have you, what Tamara did today would be fine. We can't have you just walk out.

Oh, fun little story. I'm sure Roobes knows this. The other franchise, Real Housewives of Salt Lake, the reason where, what do you call Lisa Barlow? Ruby. Baby Gorgeous.

Baby Gorgeous wasn't on the first episode was because she was holding out negotiating her contract love that's what the greats do that's what the greats do uh ruby uh do you uh want to give us what lisa was doing in those negotiations oh he wants you to do an impression oh you want me no i'm going to get the most i'm not doing it i'm worth more than them you know andy stop no and she's like playing with her perfectly long hair the entire time she is impenetrable and it's awful and i acknowledge that and I will never.

She's like a German tiger tank. I sent Dylan and his lovely wife, Cecilia, Vittio, last night, of her rapping a song while Meredith Marks is DJ. And I believe I said something along the lines of, like, if anybody ever said anything bad about her to me, I'd hit them. And Dylan's wife responded and said, I'll kill them. Yeah, my wife and Ruby love Baby Gorgeous. Some of the fans do not.

A lot of people do not. So a divisive character. 10 points. He is not on this show. She is not on this show. Okay. I actually like the episode. My favorite part of that video that you sent was Meredith Marks earnestly DJing in the background.

Oh, no. Really into it. Yeah. Dare I say too into it. Oh, yeah. Last note here. Slade and Gretchen, I always make the mistake of wanting former cast members to come back on the show. We spent a lot of time in this episode rehashing something that took place not two years ago, not five years.

ago, not even 10 years ago, 12 years ago. Did Tamrat have sex with Jeff Timmons from 98 degrees? I don't know. Yeah. I don't even care. But yet that's their storyline. And that's sad. And that says something about them. I would say so. Yeah. I would say so. Zero tits. Zero tits. Zero tits. Holy cow, man. That's a really low tits score. It's a man. It's a man. that's a man she's 100% right that's a man that's right that's crazy actually um okay so i forgot to mention that i have almost no clue what's going on in this episode so patrick will host sure okay we begin the show with the ladies catching up emily jenn and tamer this is after the two trips we went to hotel dubrow uh where the birds can't go that's right

Yeah. And we also went to Jamaica. She mentioned it again, sorry to interrupt. She mentioned it again this episode that she lives on the 30th floor. Fuck all the way off. I cannot. I don't like people bragging about how much money they have. Has Lisa Vanderpump ever bragged about how much money she has?

No, we just film in her house and then that guy that's still walking around that she's married to is like taking care of like miniature horses. You know what I mean? That's wealth. She got them to cure or an end. is his dementia. Not something to joke about dementia is very, very scary. But Ruby, Lisa Vanderpump brags about her wealth constantly. Is that what you wanted to say? Yeah, I was going to say, like, not as overly, but like that was kind of a silly comment and

like a he-he. But this is worse and this is annoying. And also, Heather, you have to wait for the elevator for longer than you like every time you leave your apartment. Right. So, okay. Oh, that's such a good point. That makes me so happy to think about that, Ruby. Heather Debrough is she has one appointment a week, right, to do something. And she's always rushing because she has nothing going on and time slips into her butthole and she doesn't know where she is. Then she's got to rush and the elevator takes four minutes and 12 seconds to get up to her. Dill, don't sleep on the fact that you have to have your car pulled up to you with the valet. Yeah.

It's not practical and it's nothing to brag about, okay? Oh my gosh. Sorry. I'm going to cool off. No, no, no. You take, all right,

take seven seats. All right. Jen and Tamrat chat. Emily insists on calling Gretchen, Gretcher's. I didn't sign off on this. This is a nickname. Here's how nicknames work.

It has to do with something that we've all collectively seen you do. Like, say you whipped out your ding-dong as a guy and your penis is crooked. We call you the hook. You know what I mean? Right. Or we shorten your name. So instead of Gretcher's, which is equal to Gretchen, it takes the same time, you call her G.

Right. That's a nickname. This is stupid. I hate Emily. She's an idiot. Okay. Okay. Can I say something?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Hey, Pat, I couldn't agree more. I think both of you need to take seven seats. bam uh yeah i know but you're 100% right like our uncle hub is called uncle hub because um he demonstrated over decades of his life that he was profoundly stupid and as dumb as a hubcap right so you call him hub there you go that's how you get a nickname right all right um my uncle is nicknamed chubby he's fat he's fat yep there you go yeah okay uh meatball uh Heather debrose about her. And Gretcher's chat. And Emily informs Tamrat what Gretcher's had said about her. Now,

this is, Gretcher's must be really upset because she had asked her at the Heather DeBrow Hotel to not mention that they called Slade. And two things. One, Tamrat is a horrible singer. Second, she had sex with Jess Timmons from 98 degrees while in the studio. I was going to say, who was it? Just Jeff Timmons. Is that, Was that confirmed this episode? Through our, you're thrown off Facebook. A bunch of people chimed in there. Oh, is a guy from 98 degrees?

I thought it was Mark McGrath. The funny part, no, it's not Mark McGrath. He wouldn't sleep with her. Mark McGrath would sleep with anyone. I don't know about that. You know, this nickname thing is so crazy. Like, it makes me miss Virginia so much because the nicknames are so flawless. Like, they call my dad Bird, because our last name is Wren.

and and I just I miss the leaves dude I just miss the leaves there's too many here's my best friends for my childhood bombs outside V fusey Sully Mikey and I'm hicky that's it it's amazing Pat Gretcher's Gretcher's that's bad that's really bad sucks all right uh where are we Sorry. We then see the Chiron 48 hours earlier.

We bounce around Southern California. A lot of bouncing around. All right. Shantabador chats with Sophia, and that's her best friend. Oh, no, she's with her best friend,

and he talks about condoms and booze. That's going to all work out great. What? Shannon Bador. Yeah. Sophia. Yeah. Okay.

Heather Rowe chats with Max. His life's awesome. Emily jokes about being a hooker. Yeah. With her 12-year-old daughter, Hello, White Trash. Meatball makes her son look like he's joining a white supremacist charter. Or being like Chester for Halloween. Who's Chester?

Lincoln Park. He's dead. Rest in peace. I know, but he had that kind of look when he was alive and yelling about pain with disc scratches. Sorry, tangent. Chester's first wife. uh used to come out and see me play when i was in like a punk band opening up for cypressail and the singer of that punk band started dating chester's wife and then when she found out i almost had

a reality tv show called tour where she's like i want a reality tv show she came up here and we would hang out and uh you're looking at me with wise like why are you talking about well no well yes but also i'm known i've done four tangents today already sorry sorry sorry but so anyway Did you, did you, did you, no, no, no, my friend D. Rock was dating her. Anyway, I'm just saying I hung out with Chester's wife and it's one of the, the nine children that he left behind that are, their lives would be good. Nine. Nine. Nine. Nine. He was a busy guy. Holy crud, that's a lot of bad. But that was his first wife. Okay. All right. Where are we here?

Let's talk about Ryan. Those two aren't getting married. Kaylin, how's the show going so far? All right. Ryan and Jen discuss wedding dates. Ryan suggests they pull the trigger on a date and then Jen has an issue. Jen's going through her to-do list of the wedding and you want to talk about white trash. I mean, she was like, we're drinking Malibu all day. They have a fucking, they have a cyber truck and they're addicted to Malibu, rum, and Diet Coke. That is, right.

Also, her son Dawson might be joining the Marines. So that's a reason why they can't set up this goddamn man. marriage. She doesn't want to get married to him because she knows that he has no money. Well, also that he may or may not be going to jail and or is being indicted by the FBI and why would she want to be connected to that? But additionally, the, I believe she says in her confessional, she's like, this whole wedding thing just keeps coming up. And I paused and said, what could she possibly mean by that, you know? Yeah. What does that mean? Yeah. What does that mean that it keeps coming up? because yeah it's sure yeah no it's gonna keep coming up because you you said that you were gonna do it

so anyways um yeah she she talks to her daughter at some point in the show and she says big problem i had with this episode kids too many kids especially the stuff with jen and her daughter like the two of them crying about divorce like bring me french fry boy back i i would prefer french fry boy over that i mean my god that is that is sad anyways so this is where she highlights that shannon does not speak on the way home and i have to say this this person and i i i lived with this person when i was in college and i knew this person very well these types of archetypes that do this type of shit like the person that won't speak to anyone that everyone in the car has to suffer because they're oh shit sorry um in a bad mood but then they also do their like

kitchy like the door door i'm bringing sheep pans like when it's up and they want attention and everyone's giving it to them it's great but when they are down they demand that everyone get down with them and no one will joy right no one will we got to figure that out chan come on so i do the exact opposite of this with my wife when we're in a like silent fight and we don't even know why we're fighting i'll go like hey are we cool and like i'll grab like i don't want these uncomfortable moments that are trapped in a car or whether or not we're sitting in bed watching a tv show with each other where it's this oh oh we're going to fight each other with silence right who's going to win here you know no it's a standoff it's a mexican standoff

no no no and you win by being the bigger person to go hey let's talk about this and then you proceed to get in a two-hour fight and go, God damn it, I wish I just drank my wine and passed out. That's how you win. That's how you win. Okay. Yeah. Well, no, you really win.

And this is how you win with women. You just tell them that they're right. That's how you win. Happy wife, happy life. Right? You know, women really got that because it rhymes. There's nothing that rhymes with husbands. Like, happy husband.

Fuck. There's stuff that rhymes with husband. like what um london london london um me through that both of you london husband hmm okay um i can't think of anything ruby's hurting my feeling should i continue the recap yeah please okay okay so that wedding business is over oh uh jen mentions that Temecula house, that Airbnb was awesome, and maybe they can never have a wedding there. You know, I was thinking, that's a beautiful place to not get married ever because you're being indicted. And I thought, what a great idea to be legally coupled to you. So when I saw that

house, I was like, this is beautiful. So anything you ever buy together can you take it away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tam rats' house. Tam lets Eddie know that she. Eddie's back. But you know what, though? Okay. Pat, I was thinking. of you, the only thing that was more unhappy this episode than everyone who was unhappy was Eddie. He wanted to end his own life during the scene. That's what it, that's what it felt like when Tamara was like, did you guys miss me? He was like, it was the most exhausted we did that I've ever heard a man have to muster. I fuggle for him. Ruby might be picking up on, she's been watching this show with a closer microscope than us over the years. You're just doing what Pat's doing.

calling him gay i think she's saying that uh you said he hates being here oh yeah no eddie is uh eddie is absolutely miserable and it's not just misery off on camera it's i mean how can you be when you buy a second place up in that shit hole big bear area at that log cabin he spends half his time up there yeah why are you still together there's nothing to do in big bear no Except get away from your wife that you hate. Ruby, can you clarify your statements? No, couldn't agree with you more. There's that and there's meth and Big Bear.

Also, Tamara was on Watch What Happens Live. And it was, I don't know you well enough to speak about you, Pat. But Dylan and I, if Dylan had seen this, he would have had to plug his ears and leave the room. She's interrupting Andy and trying to speak over him 80% of the time. Oh, that's what I do to Pat. And you? No, but, but the thing is, Dylan, is the power structure is so different and you're not supposed to do that because it's, it's, it's everyone here is kind of the same. Tamara's not, she, Andy at the end has to literally give her like, I don't stop talking. Well, can we talk about what happens live real quick? Why is this on all of the housewives peacocks thing right now? Kate. What are you doing with that? Why are you doing that? You're putting, when you go to peacock, they're putting the watch what happens lives in the real housewife playlist. I hadn't seen that.

And it's like episode, episode three is not episode three. That's watch what happens live. Why they do that? Oh. That's so annoying. And it makes people panic because then they're like, oh my God, they released two episodes last week. No, they fucking didn't you.

Don't do this. To be fair, I don't know if you guys see it as on demand. They glue the watch what happens recap on to the tail end of any Bravo episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see that. So Eddie's miserable because he's Eric's Tamara and. And, you know, that's a tough situation for him. So let's get to Tamrat and Daria.

Yeah. Darya is looking for purpose in its music. And she might go to the Music Institute. Now, I know this institution very well because I went there and got a degree. Did you perform in the performance hall? I was a sound guy for the performance hall. Hang on. Pray for little Kalin's daughter

Had a little bit of a playground accident Do we even need to mention it? Well, they probably heard some of it. I don't know how much we'll stay in. Kalen had to leave. His daughter got hurt at the playground. Okay. And she's fine.

All right, let's talk about another daughter who's making poor choices. Talking about Darya. Yeah, going to Musicians Institute. I went there, got a degree there. Let me just say this about it. The experience. Life changing.

What's more productive? Getting a four degree there or lighting $120,000 on fire. Well, I mean, you didn't utilize the network. You didn't squeeze the rag. Darya will squeeze the rack. Well, we'll see about that. Sorry, we'll squeeze that rack. Dill, the program was a one-year program.

I went there for six months and I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? I went out and got my job at a recording studio. Yeah. And I started working in the biz. Well, it's unfortunate at the Musician Institute, the teachers are all on heroin. Now, I'm not talking about Columbia University heroin where they do it in front of a fireplace because they're tenured and they only do a little bit. I'm just talking about everybody's just smacked, right?

So it's not the best place. I wish they were high. No, it's a bunch of sad, old, failed musicians that they hire at a low rate to teach young students. Nobody's grumpier than road dogs. No one is grumpier than fucking road dogs. dogs okay fucking Jesus Christ like what's the problem here why is so crumpy there's this is not a college experience Tamara Tamara has no clue what she's talking about you're going to drop your kid off here yeah they're going to show up for classes for a career that doesn't

exist anymore right music production oh yeah good luck with that and then also you're going to live around a bunch of zombie encampments there are a lot of zombies down there the The detachment and the misunderstanding that Tamara has, like, she doesn't know. So this, this was very, it's very clear now. I'm sorry, I can see this old couple. They're still so cute. And they're just watching the sunset together. You guys, they are so fucking adorable.

Tamara doesn't know anything about her child. And she walked in and the way that this would be equivalent to our mom being like, oh, Dylan has a, he does a talk show. He, him and his friend do a talk show. they talk about um what we'll tell him what do you do you like it's like so so shut the fuck up um Tamara does say that she loves the energy of Hollywood Boulevard and I it yeah yeah cool ruby you nailed it uh with that she is completely not understanding what her daughter is truly into and um also her her comments on Hollywood Boulevard it is not electric um it is in fact dangerous so dangerous and

And dirty, filthy, uninspiring, sad, and terrifying. Oh, yeah. That was a good, that was a really good summary, Pat. Thank you. I mean, have you ever been through a drive-thru and had to, like, evade things? Like, you're just going through a jack-in-the-box, but there are not here, not on Hollywood Boulevard. That jack-in-the-box across the street from Amoeba music is flat-out, dangerous. Yeah. Try going to the in and out on orange and adorable.

Oh, my God. I'm sorry, Sunset. The thing that I want to ask you guys about, you're both parents now. What, Sophia, this is weird to me. If I were Sophia, I would say I need to get as far away from Tamara as I possibly can. She says she does, she would rather drive here. She wants to stay home. And Tamara has this whole, like, I want her to get out and do get out. Sophia. Get out. Get out. Get away. Live your life. And most importantly, just get away. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be

far away from Tamara. One of the sadder storylines was last season when they were trying to get Sophia Darya to be friends with Katie's demon daughter. Yeah. Because she needs friendship and connections so much that she'd want to be friends with that person. And then Katie's daughter was mean to Dari. That's right. Yeah. Or so I think that's the tale of the tape or something like that. I'm not with the rags, but anyways, we move on. Oh, yeah, we go to Gretcher's house. And the decor looks like Ross for less took a shit in that house. Hiring. Hang on.

Thank you for saying that. Thank you for saying. Hiring Stevie Wonder to put decorations in there, I think it would have looked better. If we find out that he was faking it the whole time, does that hurt his legacy? No. I think it makes him more. fun yeah i think so too wow you know you pretend that what if like at his like it's like a dude that's been married for 50 years but he was gay the whole time right right right what if like what an act

what if stevie wonder uh um the wife's careful though the wife's like honey i i know he's like how did you know oh you could never get hard and you always cried when we had sex and you talk like this it's like what i'm fucking talking about what if stevie i've loved you what if stevie wonder at the end like his one last concert before he dies and he just steps out on stage to do about and he rips his sunglasses off and his eyes are all fucking like gross okay sorry what is wrong with you two okay i'm sorry yeah i'm sorry yeah it's dylan uh gretcher's Slade discussed that rumor from 12 years ago, and she's mad at Slade because he mentioned Tamara at having sex with Jess Timmons from 98 degrees. And then there's also that

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like he would fit in perfectly in orange county my god he's probably living there all right so um slade Gretchen still pissed at him because he did that quote unquote comedy show where he called Vicky a fat pig Yeah No, he called Tamara a fat pig Oh, Tamara was a fat pig Yeah One of the grossest things I've

I've ever bared witness to on this show I mean he had a slide show up Yeah Worse than so he called Tamara the Michelin Man And then Vicky Miss Piggy Oh that's that's why I bet you Yeah now in my minority report universe You do a little bit of time

of that robot picks you up out of the sky goes hey sit down oh yeah take a minute he did 12 years I did 12 years of it in Ascabahn now meanwhile Eddie and Tamrat do you know what she's referencing the

what is that thing that yeah I don't have it I just came out I'm really sorry I did 12 years in Ascaband that's Harry Potter yeah ding ding ding can I tell you

if we put on Goblet of Fire the other day a little long they all are they are a snorfest can I say I was not enjoying myself I was like I've seen this too many times

I did not need to watch this again I never feel that way about Empire Strikes Back I'll tell you that right now meanwhile we're at Tamrat in Eddie's backyard Never feel that way about Lord of the Rings So Harry Potter's overrated.

Big time. No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It was just weird. This is what I was saying about the tuna fish sandwich. I want to go home and watch Alien Earth and just relax. I have a baby. She's going to, she's going to be a baby.

Well, she might be sleeping. Maybe. Okay, sorry. All right. So, uh, Eddie and Tamrat's backyard. Eddie thinks Gretcher's is, evil. To be fair, she asserted he likes the blow dudes. And then Eddie has a kind of view of Shannon. Buter, she's a sad drunk, which in her current state is right on the money.

You know? Yeah. I actually think that that was a good read by Eddie. I was shocked that he was that intuitive because I think that Shannon would need someone like Tamara to come along and be like, be evil we should do this you know Gretchen Gretchen will evil her own little snake but my question is has Gretchen always been like this or was she created is is Gretchen the bane to Tamara no no no no no Gretchen was dating a man who was dying or sorry excuse me married to a man who was dying

while having several boyfriends oh wow that's what the whole Bass Lake thing is about and, like, you have to give it to her. Tamara nailed her at that reunion. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Also, I think Jeff, the dead guy, uh, paid for that house that she still resides in. I believe that, that he did.

And that was why she was like, I didn't take anything from his kids. I didn't want anything from them at all. Well, he bought your house. He bought your house. Technically. Yeah. And he had a lot of kids. Yeah.

That house is the kid's house. It's not your house, Crouching. Well, he. Stowed it on her. He also bought her pink motorcycle. I think while he was taking his last breath. That was a good one. While they ran the credits of him like showing her the pink motorcycle,

like the Orange County end music for a season, it's always the same. And they do the kairons for the updates. They're like, Jeff's dead. Yeah. Am I wrong, Ruby? No, I have literally nothing to say other than they did. Great season. And Eddie does have a right read on it.

He says Gretchen's evil. And Chan it is a sad drunk. Yeah. All right. Let's move on. All right. So we can go back to MI with Tamrat and Darya, but that's too sad. Don't go there.

Let's go to the med lounge where Jen and Everly, Jen likes doing girls stuff with her daughter. Stand next to me when I get married to an indicted criminal because you are my best friend, daughter. Well, I like how she also short-named her. A nickname she said, Evie. What do you feel about this? And Evie gets really emotional.

And that's because her stepdad is a guy who dodged a 15-year run in the brink because he ratted out an associate. And that's the only fucking reason why he's not in jail right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also dyes his hair with product bought at the dollar tree. Spray paint would look more natural. Yeah, we've talked about it before His head is full of flexial

But listen This was a really really heartbreaking scene to me Because it's her daughter sitting there crying Wanting to say I don't like more fervently I don't want you to get married

And she can't Because she wants her mom to be happy And it's like It's like don't fucking put that on Again I know we had We had kids stuff with uh with the ladies of of new york but it was fun it was fine you know darinda's uh can i tell you

my wife is so sweet she hates derinda's daughter despises her darinda despises Anna but anyways this is too sad my point is that it was too sad that was my point it was sad and this is what's sad about it is that you got to give evy some time to process this you can't put her in front of a camera and sign off on marrying a guy with dyed hair that poorly because that's heartbreaking she needs to reflect on how her mother completely imploded that family by stepping out on her husband and having an affair yeah well um it sounds like her dad is a walking piece of a turd upright we're only hearing one side of the story ruby we're only hearing once on the yes Patrick but but but but just the the the money taking out of the children of him asking

the other brother to do that. No likey. We don't like you this one. Also pay your fucking child support. Thank you, sir. So that's not one side. You lost that. You lost that battle.

Well, I lost that in that we are still seeing one side. We're not hearing from the husband girl. She's fucking lying about that. Is, is him not paying child support one side? Like, is that actually not true? Oh, what Pat's saying. Have you seen legal documents?

Are you just hearing Jen and Ryan assert that? Yeah, that's what Pat's saying. Pat's saying that she might. might be lying about that whole thing. Well, I think it would be very easy for him to maybe come out and defend himself and say, here are the, I don't, she hasn't taken legal action against him. He's just, Ruby, he's just pulling a Howard Stern right now. Okay.

So, hey, Howard, go put your bag on. Come on. Let me see him. And we're going to do our butter face. Come on, Robin. Robin, what do you think, Robin? Our tits great. Oh, Howard.

Oh, why are you doing this? Come on, let me see those breasts. Rob, do you remember when I called you the N word yesterday? No, Howard. I never remembered that. How did she do it? Dylan and I used to get driven to our school, Lawrence 2000, and in our little prep school uniforms while our mother went to work and our father in his Chevy Silverado that he calls the Blue Pony still today because it's 20 years old. We would listen to Howard Stern as a seven and nine year old roughly. And I like to think that it was one of the very, I think it formed a lot of, who we are today. It turned us into dark apples. Dark people, yeah. Yep.

Yeah, exactly. Thanks, Howard. Thank you, Howard. That was our clockwork orange. You can't pry ears shut. They're always open. Can I also say they're really, like really, really quackly? Evie seems like a pretty well-rounded fucking kid, you know?

Well, they all are. And when they're 18, and then what happens is we proceed to rule. and human beings. Yeah, well, sorry, we've been going so long. Oh, yeah. All right. Let's keep it moving. Let's keep it moving.

Ruby, I have a question. We learned that Gretcher's got 500 grand for being stalked. Do you know anything about this story? This doesn't make sense. I believe what the... Oh, my God. That was so funny. I believe what this is about is that Gretcher's was spotted with it in a picture with a guy

when she was allegedly like allegedly when she was married and then um that guy came forward and he was stalking her and gretchen sued him for stalking her and then he came forward and said uh-uh i'm not stalking you we were dating and we were fucking each other and then gretchen is alleging that they went to court and she won similarly to the child support documents i have not seen them okay yeah you want to hear a real stalking case i went to school with somebody who was best friends with uh who is the woman from the good wife uh married to dax no the good wife oh the brunette chick from uh yeah the good wife god from x-men she is a very exotic name no no no not her uh no that's like yeah yeah yeah no i know who you're talking about hold on yeah the good

yeah i'm talking about the good wife typed in foods so um so so food wife that's so funny it it reminds me of that clip it's been going around margolese juliana margolese so juliana margolese had a stalker and this stalker when my friend's friend was a child was outside of her bedroom window on the roof screaming julia i'm here i'm your friend julia how horrifying is that now that's a stalker what happened to that uh care I think they kicked them off the roofy dot or something like that. You know, food wife. Food wife reminds me of that clip that's been going around.

I think Gabri Sida-Bets down on a chair. And she goes, is this cake? And Johnny Knoxville had pranked her. You know, it's so funny. So let's get to, bitch, is this cake? Oh. Let's get to self-defense. Okay, self-defense.

This place is so liable for one, very poor self-defense and two this prank this quote unquote prank not okay now don't do this people you can give someone a fucking heart of that next thing you know they're suing you into the ground it was so ruby go ahead but okay so first of all two things one you do this to someone like me i i i one i defecate in the car i have a heart attack and i likely i'm dead and then good luck with my mom two shannon fucking Bador became Tom Cruise when somebody put the water on him and she just, what are you doing? What are you doing? Why are you doing that?

It was incredible. Trying to reason with a murderer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll shit my pants. Shit. What kind of thing is that to do to someone? So many people could shit themselves if you do this. I don't think this is a normal business model.

I think this was urged on by. producers to get Emily and whoever was in the office laughing their asses off. Well, we go into this self-defense place. Gretcher's looks absolutely ridiculous. But the more ridiculous thing about this entire demonstration is the actual self-defense tactics. I mean, I felt like I was in the dojang of Napoleon Dynamite. Women must use nails and they must put them in eyes.

And that's... Or a guy's asshole. Or guys... Because that will neutralize a pit bull. They always say if they're attacking you, like put your finger in their bum bum. Right. You know, do that to a dude.

Right. You can get it in there. A little conversation. We were watching Sicario the other day. And there's a, it's a great film. And there's a scene where in John Berenthal is choking Emily Blunt. And there's this scene where she's moving her hands on his face. You gouge your nails.

You scratch the eyes out of the assailant. What you don't do is what these fucking guys told them. to do, which is shell up, shell up so that you can block all of the punches that are coming at? What was this place? No, no, no. Go for the asshole. Gina, Gina was the only one that was realistic about it. And she was just like, listen, if this happens to me, I'm done. I'm sorry. Good luck. You know. Yeah, what are we going to do? Basically, like, just kill me. Yeah. You're going to turn into fucking Floyd Mayweather and just roll all the punches. My God. Then we do target practice, obviously Tamara is the best with a gun.

She flies through the targets. And then we sit down for lunch because Gretchen, the drama of Gretchen's accusation has now reached Tamara via Emily, who you hate. That's right. And also, where was this? Shannon Bredor tells the ladies that Tamrat said her dad was a drunk. Meatball pushes back. She clarifies Tamerette said, your dad had a problem with alcohol.

Which is very different. I didn't say he was a drunk. I said that he struggled with addiction issues. Well, Shannon makes it see. Shannon basically says, Tamara looked at me and she said, your dad was a fucking, fucking stupid alcoholic,

you drunk. And then Gina says, I thought that she just said that he, no, yes, that's what she, well, no,

that's, that isn't exactly what she said, right? Yeah. She basically said he was a drunk. Yeah, she said it was a drunk. All right.

And then Emily tells Tamara, the Gretch said, said that she was a horrible singer and had an affair while she was dating Eddie and she had an orgasm while it was being recorded in the session. Now, I mentioned this the last show. I'm going to play it right now. All right. So in 1987, while recording the first Guns and Roses record, Appetite for Destruction, Axel Rose, who now looks like a lesbian trucker, very chubby, short hair. um he can't walk anymore he's like uh he had sex with stepan adler's girlfriend at the time and thought it would be funny to record her having an orgasm uh on a song called uh rocket queen here

it is god damn you know i got a uh i got to up my um oh no this son's spot of my hair yeah great song by the way here's with a can you imagine me in a record engine yeah yeah She had an orgasm there.

Yeah, I heard it. Ruby, did you hear it? But I... That was so bad. This is what Tamara's. daughter will be producing. You can hear it in the background. Pop.

Okay. The lore of rock. I heard it there. Yeah. The lore of rock. Ruby has lots of dinners and raves. Oh, she just got out of here.

Okay. And you just played a fucking Guns and Roses song. for probably a minute and 30 seconds. I don't know. It felt like in eternity. Do all Guns and Roses songs sound just literally, they're just literally the same thing every time?

That was crazy. That sounded like every Guns and Roses song. It's a very distinct guitar sound. Yeah. Okay. So we sit down for lunch and this is where the fireworks ensue. Robs, do you want to break down the battle between Gretchen and Tamara here, please? yeah sure so basically camera is informed that slade has a copy of this recording and she's saying

before this starts that that Gretchen is obsessed with her yeah and it's always her go-to it's a theme which I don't think is actually very very fair um to I don't think the Gretchen is obsessed with Tamara I think Gretchen's obsessed with Gretchen yeah um and they no one is obsessed with Tamara no except for camera um least of all eddie uh they they just start to yell at each other and then there is absolutely no proof that this exists i also wanted to ask you guys about this gretchen takes the defense that like i didn't do this yeah this was my husband right right so that's what do you you're a loser right there you can't you can't take that defense right that's not fair no that no that no you can't you can't take that you're married to the idiot well and also

So he literally wasn't the one that brought it up. You literally were the one that brought it up. So it's not. Right. So he was the one who allegedly had it. She was the one who brought it up when she got drunk. She's also alleging when her with her hubby and wife he signed in her fucking home goods house to sleep that she was like, I didn't want to be. Or maybe it was her confessional that she said, I didn't want to be a mean girl.

I really didn't. I asked them not to go to Tamara. And I didn't mean to talk about it twice on camera when we were recording the, uh, the, the, TV show that airs to the country. I didn't want Tamara to know. Right. So it's like, oh, no, no, but you, but you might have. And Tamara don't make us like her. Right. Yeah, that's the worst thing you could do. Don't put us on the side of Tamara because like what Gretchen did was like, okay, let's say you, you had a porn with somebody, right? And it was just between you and that person and then, you know, you got married. And then the person that you got married to is like, hey, he has a porn with that

person. You can't go, well, he did the porn. Well, yeah, he did the porn, but he wasn't the one that said about it. Nobody knew about it. So it's not him that did that. That's you, Gretchen. Don't do that. Don't push us into liking Tamrat and siding with her, Gretchen. Poor move. That is the worst thing you could possibly do. She flares up, storms out of the room, and we will be back next week to find out what happens after Pat speaks. was there an allegation that someone did a video with a vibrator in their cooch? Yeah, that was Gretchen. There was a picture floating around the internet of her blacked-out with a vibrator.

So that was cool. Okay. Yeah. We'll see. That will be unearthed at some point, you know? Who knows? And tell us about the dreams that you've had. Yeah.

Tell us about the dreams that you've had. Let us know your favorite flavor of spin drift. and if this was this was really good or not. What's your favorite Guns and Roses song? And have you ever I can bang Jeff Teagues

or whatever his name is? I'm Dylan saying goodbye. Pat say goodbye. Bye. Ruby. Bye-bye. Thank you.