Answer Me This! - AMT237: Milkshake, Twix and Cousin Sex

Episode Date: November 15, 2012

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Why has Ben Affleck made a film about Argos? Answer me this, answer me this Who promoted Talisa to the female boss? Answer me this, answer me this Helen and Ollie, answer me this First up this week on Answer Me This, or as they call it in the military, Alpha Mike Tango We've got some feedback, Helen, from Paul, the pilot for Milton Keynes. Paul the pilot?
Starting point is 00:00:26 Colin the postman, Paul the pilot? It's like kiddie claymation around here now. He says, I am afraid, Helen, I need to correct you on an inaccuracy. No! Yes, when a pilot says that, Helen, you've got to fasten your seatbelts. Adopt the brace position. R, in the phonetic alphabet, is in romeo not roger oh no it is now but it wasn't then hey pedant wins yeah when they invented this alphabet it was roger and then
Starting point is 00:00:57 my guess is that because roger came so commonly to mean received as discussed in last week's episode that they had to get a new word to mean r because otherwise when people were spelling things out you'd be like do you mean received or do you mean you're halfway through this words and it's probably the only scenario where someone's replaced any character called roger with romeo well maybe the beckhams contemplated calling their second son roger that would be more sensible in a way wouldn't it in fact all of their children sound like they're called after this alphabet. Apropos of our discussion of Roger
Starting point is 00:01:28 and I speculated about Roger-ing. You did, didn't you? You know, as in Roger-ing. John says, according to my history of science tutor at university, in times past, the boar on a farm
Starting point is 00:01:39 was traditionally called Roger. Thus, when the sows were on heat, they were Rogergered. And who would want to dispute the claims of a history of science tutor? This history of science tutor probably had a master's in pig sex. Hi, this is Ben. Helen and Ollie, answer me this. My wife and I have been listening to Milkshake by Khalees,
Starting point is 00:02:01 and we would like to know, what does the milkshake in the song refer to? I thought it was something about tits, but my wife seems to think it's something to do with the girl in question's entire aura or kind of persona thing. There don't seem to be any clues in the song. So if you can help, that'd be great.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Thank you. I think I'd always assumed as well that it was her charisma, her je ne sais quoi. It wasn't a specific body part because that'd be nonsensical. Which part of Khalees that is visible through her clothes is liquid? Well, no, you're right.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah, so milkshake, people have speculated. I talk about this like this is a great historical precedent, but actually the song is unbelievably nearly 10 years old now. Oh, God. So this has been going on for a decade. When was it? 2003? Yeah. Shit.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Amazing, isn't it? Anyway, I know we're old. People have been speculating, because it's got the word milk in it, that it means tits. But if you think about the lyrics, there are clues, actually, contrary to what Ben says there.
Starting point is 00:03:01 There are clues in the lyrics that it's not tits, because she says, I could teach you, but I'd have to charge. You can't teach tits. You've either got tits or you haven't. You can't teach someone. You can enlarge their tits.
Starting point is 00:03:10 You can teach plastic surgery. Exactly, yeah. She could say, I could enlarge them, but I'd have to charge. That's fine. Is it a dance then? Is it her doing something
Starting point is 00:03:17 that is shaky? Is it shaking her tits that produce milk? Because she could teach that, couldn't she? She could teach that. It's a transferable skill. She said herself in interviews that it means sex appeal her and the neptunes made it up it just
Starting point is 00:03:29 came out in the recording session they thought it sounded cool it is the blend it is the shake of all the things that make her a sexy lady it's the tits it's the ass it's the dance it's the charisma it's everything so out of what you're saying ben your wife is a little bit closer to the truth um but to what extent is an artistic work what the author intended and to what extent is the post-modern reading more relevant death of the author yeah that's a very interesting point i've just been reading uh david burn's book how music works and he's just been saying i thought the song was about what i thought it was about but actually the song has three lies one in the author's mind one in the audience's mind and one in the person
Starting point is 00:04:03 who's performing its mind oh critical series appalling isn't it isn't it just appalling but anyway why ruin a pop song with it why not just i reckon the person who wrote it definitely does know what they meant but anyway and certainly in the video they did have gushing milkshake looking suggestive but that didn't seem tip based well yeah now you come on to the point oh do i yes that's what i come on to is it uh the major alternative reading of milkshake okay uh is actually blowjob blowjob because milkshake as in shaking a big cock full of cum it's more like pulling a pint though isn't it and that's foamy my bitter brings all the boys to the i don't have the same ring to i think to have that reading then you are then in your mind creating a situation where kalise is is
Starting point is 00:04:42 giving a massive outdoor blowjob session yeah and people are queuing up yeah i don't think she's like that no i don't think she's like that either but if that were the case which i don't think it is but if it were at least it's an inventive sexual euphemism better than candy shop by 50 cent which i think is the nadir of the blowjob related song what's his metaphor for the the oral sex act upon the man my cock is a bit like a lollipop that's it for three minutes a bit like a lollipop that's it for three minutes yeah you lick my lollipop what's that other one as well flow rider where well he's got several hasn't he because there's elevator because she's going down in
Starting point is 00:05:13 the elevator yeah that's right to waste blow my whistle you can blow my whistle it's all a bit carry on isn't it well whereas yeah but candy shop isn't candy shop's really nasty because candy shop does suggest children doesn't it yeah so it's kind of it's not only a horrible sounding song and the only sort of remotely clever comparison he's making is between a lollipop and his penis it's also then quite peasy yeah because he's like all that chocolate factory stuff that um r kelly did isn't it all that current werther's original advert which is the worst advert for many reasons one is because the woman narrating it says, when my grandfather first took me to my favourite caramel shop, I was five. I think, firstly, caramel shops.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Secondly, enough caramel shops that you can rank them. Thirdly, you're discerning enough at five to rank them and have a favourite. Well, I don't know, though. I went to the Lake District for a couple of days in May, and actually, when it's raining, there's not much to do but rank the caramel shops. So it depends where they were on holiday, Helen. If there are two, that can keep you occupied all day.
Starting point is 00:06:10 If milkshake was going to bring you to a yard and why would you buy milkshake from a yard? You'd buy it from a milkshake shop. It could be a pop-up. Yes, boo. She was predicting Shoreditch in this song. And those luxury milkshake vans that go to festivals where you can get biscuits ground up in a milkshake, which is stupid.
Starting point is 00:06:26 My milkshake brings all the boys to the disused primary school car park. If a milkshake was to bring you to a yard, Helen, what flavour milkshake would it be? And why? I don't super like milkshakes, but I think it'd probably be something like mocha. That's a very good choice because it's straightforward, but also complex. Yeah, and not too sweet. Because I'm flummoxed by the choices. Too many.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah. You know when you go to Shakeaway and these new chains they have now where you can choose any and they've got candy bars from America as well as the British chocolate bars. The problem is because you're given the luxury of options
Starting point is 00:06:55 you think, oh well, for an extra 50p I can also have a drifter in there and I can also have a shot of brandy or whatever the hell it is. Oh, too many of choice. Yeah, I ruin it. I wish in a way I lived in a society that had more rules that said, no, you can just have this combination of stuff
Starting point is 00:07:08 because we know what's good for you. Why don't you just go and move to China? They tell you what kind of milkshake you'd better have. It's the famous thing, isn't it, people always say about China. Actually, that's a terrible analogy, I'll just tell you, because they don't really drink milk in China. Well, doesn't sound like China's for you, Ollie. My favourite milkshake is strawberry, thanks for asking.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Oh, yeah, that's a bad choice. Why? Because, well, I don't like strawberries in real. Oh, yeah. That's a bad choice. Why? Because, well, I don't like strawberries in real life anyway. They're my least favourite summer fruit. Why have strawberries when you can have raspberries? Why do it? Because it's a slightly different time of the year. Strawberries slightly earlier.
Starting point is 00:07:35 All right. That's a sensible answer, but still. Thanks. Strawberry ice cream bears then very little relation to the strawberry itself. Well, it's pink. Yeah, exactly. But it's an artificial flavour you're tasting. It's not like when you have mango ice cream, you know that's got something to do with mango. You know who likes strawberry milkshake, it's pink. Yeah, exactly. But it's an artificial flavour you're tasting. It's not like when you have mango ice cream,
Starting point is 00:07:45 you know that's got something to do with mango. You know who likes strawberry milkshake, though? I don't, Helen. Tell me who. You do. It's the members of our Facebook group because I put up a picture of Martin drinking a strawberry milkshake on there last week
Starting point is 00:07:57 and they went crazy for it. Just a man and a milkshake for heaven's sake. Oh, yeah. I had a really cute face on there. You were looking a bit coquettish. I look really endearing. If I do say so myself. My milkshake bought all the boys to our Facebook page.
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Starting point is 00:09:12 Here's a question from Micah. I could be babe, I could be boo, I could be my little sister. I think he just killed a dog. What was that? It was a song by Micah. Right, yeah. I couldn't be like Chris Kelly, ooh, but a producer said why so i tried a little freddie then he turned in his grave different micah though different micah he says i've decided
Starting point is 00:09:37 to become a collector of old things sugar daddies etc the best way to get a good deal on old things is to purchase them at an estate sale when someone's family sells off their dead grandmother's belongings for cheap for better or worse i'm at an age where many of my friends parents and grandparents are starting to pass away i think that's for worse micah by most people's standards so ollie answer me this how long should i wait after their parents have died to ask these friends when they plan on selling their deceased relatives antique gold chicken figurines for a dollar wow oh poor you but you know since you're gonna have to clear the house anyway let me help you oh yeah just do it in one sweeping motion put your arms around their shoulder and then whilst
Starting point is 00:10:21 you're comforting them in their grief and bereavement just pick the figurines off the shelf and put them in your pocket. Yeah, you know what wakes are great for? Pricing up things. I think that's the thing. Don't go to the shiver and eye up the oak bedstead. But do be there at the wake. Do be there at the funeral.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Be in touch with your friends. Because that's a good thing to do anyway. The fact that there's an ulterior motive doesn't matter. You're still doing good. Be in touch. And then naturally you will be there for them at the moment when they start talking about oh it's really depressing i'm clearing out granny's old house you're like right now's the moment go for it i think i'll help yeah exactly because i think if
Starting point is 00:10:53 you're waiting around it could take too long but i think you could offer your services saying i know it's really hard to um dissolve the estate of a loved one so if you need any help distributing the stuff uh i could step in oh that's good helen i believe you and then casually believe that it's just for your just for their benefit wow i love this thing i could give some money to to your family for the estate or to the charity of your choice yeah so seem like you're doing them a favor like candy from a baby isn't it i'm very manipulative i'm learning this about myself well it's easy though with bereaved people isn't it religion's been exploiting bereaved people for centuries.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You just need to step in when they're feeling weak. I got accosted by a lady when I was walking from Crystal Palace to Streatham the other week. And she said, when you die, can you leave me this jacket? She said, are you interested in a house clearance sale? And I said, I'm sorry, not really. And she said, because my mother's just died. And she lives up there. My house is over there. And it's full of stuff of stuff and i go i'm really sorry to hear that but
Starting point is 00:11:48 no and um she said you know her landing and the living room in the bedroom are full of things it's not furniture it's things like her clothes her shoes a lot of it's hardly worn um are you interested no i'm really sorry i'm not interested and then she was like well can you give me any ideas as to how to get people to come? Because I want people to make appointments. Don't want them just to come in. Well, just hanging around in this park, waiting for people that you can nab on the pathway
Starting point is 00:12:13 is not a good way to reach a lot of people. So I said to her, what about? Facebook? Yeah, what about the internet? What about, you know, the local forums? And she said, Oh no, there's loads of weirdos there. So I don't do computers.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I prefer to accost people in public. So essentially, I just had to run away from her because I thought if I did go and look at the shoes, then she would make me dress up as her mother and she would keep me and make me stay in bed and she would bring me bread soaked in broth. You'd just be Mrs. Bates' motel but in Crystal Palace. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:41 This is from Jess in Dorset who says, I heard the phrase piggyback for the first time in a while today. Answer me this. Where does that phrase come from? To piggyback. There are a number of explanations. Obviously, most of them are wrong, but I'll let you pick. So one of them is that pigs love to frolic and jump on each other's backs.
Starting point is 00:13:00 That's probably false, though, because pigs are not notoriously load-bearing animals. Yeah, but when they go rutting, they do jump on each other's back, sort of, don't they? Yeah, but then so do a lot of animals, don't they? Well, to be fair, dogs aren't the only ones who go doggy style. But, you know, sometimes an animal takes the glory for themselves of a particular position. And crocodiles, not that anyone's doing it crocodile style, am I right? What's crocodile style? Oh, Martin doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You have to do it in a swamp, Martin. Is that where the man meets the woman? But the real explanation is kind of boring, really. It's folk etymology, which is the polite term for when people have just misheard something, for pick-a-back, which came from pick-pack. And pick was an old English term for placing things. Same origin as well as pitching, as in pitching a tent.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And so you placed the pack on your back and carried it around right yeah but it's not a pack is it it's usually a child that's what makes it fun now it is unless you're piggybacking on someone else's wireless network right yeah i see the fun of the piggyback is just like the most i still look back with joy and pleasure on my childhood piggybacks would you love to be given a piggyback now yes but i'd i'd now feel guilty like i would never go on a donkey now because i know it would die i would feel guilty that i'd give that person osteoporosis or some sort of injury i'd do it but i i think i'd be worried that i'd fuck your back up quite a lot well this is the thing i mean you know with back problems you don't want to get involved in piggyback either giving or receiving
Starting point is 00:14:21 ideally um which is a shame because it's ruined a great pleasure for me i mean really one of my abiding childhood memories of the 80s being on grandpa's shoulders he used to do this game where we'd be going out to the shops or something yeah and just as he was leaving the hall at home and like locking all the doors and stuff he'd say where's oliver where's oliver and look around and i was on his shoulders like crying laughing and then he'd like stand in front there's a whole routine because obviously with kids you do the same joke every fucking time repetition is funny right there's a routine where at the end we went to the mirror right by the door and he's like where is he where is he and i'd be pointing at the mirror screaming with joy and then he'd see me in the mirror yeah i have an idea for you maybe
Starting point is 00:14:57 this is the uh answer to your piggyback problems maybe you could get a special customized segue so it looked like a human adult you could just hop on the back and drive around without worrying that you were going to break the spine of that segway because it's a segway i see what you're trying to do helen but trying to bring back that joy to your life only because god knows you need it if anything that would just underline the fact it's not human i'm just alone with my technology you've made that choice in your life i'll tell you the other thing i used to like as well did you do this with your parents holding hand one of the other and then skipping
Starting point is 00:15:28 in between and swinging between the two arms i don't i don't remember holding my dad's hand or him and my mum walking me to a place because if one of them was walking me there it meant the other one could do something else the other great joke of my childhood was being with my dad at seaworld and uh he he put out his hand like he used to just as a sort of reflex motion when I was sort of seven years old. And a little Japanese tourist took hold of it. He walked along holding like a middle-aged man's hand for about probably 10 seconds. I think that is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. It was wonderful.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yo, yo, one love. The best thing about tennis is the... A women's tennis. A women's tennis. Hearing those ladies all going... Makes me go... In my pants. Answer Me This Sports Day.
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Starting point is 00:16:35 Or you could Skype answer me this if you're a cheapskate. And let's see who's been in touch today. It's Eddie from Colchester. I'll ask you this. Are the people at the back of Watchdog actually researchers or are they just actors? Is Watchdog still on? Yeah. I don't know if I've ever seen it. Is it Anne Robinson or am I
Starting point is 00:16:53 mixing it up with something else? It used to be but it's Alice Beer, isn't it? It was once presented by Anne Robinson, then it wasn't and I think now again it is. I think they brought her back about two years ago. They say you present Watchdog twice in your career. My cat did the Anne Robinson wink the other day. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah, she was sitting on the sofa and she gave me a proper goodbye. And your cat had just had all that Botox as well. So without having seen Watchdog, I'm going to imagine it's got Anne Robinson in the front, like a terrifying, like one of those Stalin statues or something. And then to make it look all official while she's going this happened and it was terrible uh in the background you've got people looking like they're doing computer stuff and answering phones because
Starting point is 00:17:33 right now so many consumer complaints are coming through they need a team on it even though the cameras are on well although of course that is actually true because of course suddenly when three million people find out that they could get 100 pounds back from british telecom or whatever they are going to all call the bbc so they i think they genuinely are calls coming through but yeah it's a similar aesthetic to a charity telethon or crime watch where you see the production staff they're on the set they're lit they're wearing makeup they've got headsets on but they are actually sitting at desks working so the answers to eddie's question is yes uh they are real researchers but not only are they real researchers that is their office uh i've walked through the watchdog set when watchdog is not being filmed and they do Eddie's question is, yes, they are real researchers, but not only are they real researchers, that is their office.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I've walked through the Watch Dogs set when Watch Dogs is not being filmed and they do sit on the set. That's their desk. That's where they work. Makes sense, I suppose. And also, it would make no economic sense to hire actors because those researchers are being paid anyway to work on the show, whereas actors, you'd have to pay them a fee. Martin has played a similar sort of peripheral role in a TV show.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Oh, yeah, my claim to fame it's not really your claim to fame i know about this is this when you went on 60 minute makeover i was a wall painter yeah i sundered a radiator and i carried some things on and i painted a wall also the bit before the break when they have the extremely easy multiple choice questions so you can win something they do that overlaid a shot of one of the people doing something and it was martin with a roller wow yep that's something for before they were famous isn't it before they were physicists here is another question about i suppose illusions of showbiz right uh it's from harry who says in the new twix advert or it shows two sides of the twix ie. the two Twix fingers, being made in different factories.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And yet the mini snack-sized Twixes only have one finger. So, Ollie, answer me this. What side does the mini Twix come from? Okay, so you're accepting the advertisement on its own terms, aren't you? You're accepting as fact its portrayal. It's obviously comedy Willy Wonka-inspired portrayal of two rival factories producing sticks of Twix. If you were a chocolate bar manufacturer,
Starting point is 00:19:31 why would you duplicate your own factory to make a single object? It just makes no sense at all. Exactly, and Twix is owned by Mars, so for all we know, it's made in the same factory as Whiskers. Oh, great. In reality. What are you saying about the caramel? Bits of old tuna. So they're not going to portray that in the commercial are they it's a it's a fun uh engaging way to bring their
Starting point is 00:19:52 product to life but in reality uh both twix fingers are made in the in the same factory and and therefore the mini twix one as well they must have different machines for the mini twix that make it mini right so they've got like a tiny saucepan that makes the caramel oh say it is so ollie well the thing is though i actually do think where mars have failed on the whole mini twix issue uh is that if you were to ask a focus group what makes a twix a twix double fingers there's a very doubleness of it yes that is core to the twix brand well they know this because their website is an exercise in duality that is almost literary. It's like a novel that I read quite recently. It's called The City and the City by China Mieville, which is about two cities that are alongside each other.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And you're really forbidden from passing between each one, but they're essentially the same. It's a kind of satire of that. One side is the left Twix, one is the right Twix. They're imparting the same information, but with slightly different wording. Yes, and it's clever, as far as these things ever are. It's a bit painful to read. Nonetheless, I think what we're seeing here is,
Starting point is 00:20:58 through their website and through the very name of the product, the etymology of which is Twin Stix. Oh, is it? Yeah. Twix has always been about two things they've acknowledged that by coming up with this whole device yep of left and right and therefore harry has put his finger on something here they should twixy fingers they shouldn't really be manufacturing a mini twix at all if that's their strategy
Starting point is 00:21:18 down with the mini twix yeah because actually when they as far as chocolate campaigns ever do exist it's usually to bring back much-loved but no longer produced brands, isn't it? Yeah, like the salad cream flavoured Kit Kats. That kind of thing. But it's about time
Starting point is 00:21:33 that we say, no, just stop. Just stop the relentless expansion, Mars. Twix is about double bars. If you're going to make a mini one, make fun-sized mini bars.
Starting point is 00:21:41 But don't make one bar. And don't make the ice cream that's one bar either because that's also not on brand unbelievable it's a rare example Twix actually
Starting point is 00:21:48 of a product that is owned by a global conglomerate owned in America effectively always was but they launched it here first it was in the UK
Starting point is 00:21:56 before it was in the US and before it was anywhere else like Adele yes yeah Twix is the Adele of chocolate bars I am almighty Zeus
Starting point is 00:22:06 In the age of myths and heroes I would hurl thunderbolts down upon mortals And I had many followers Now I have no followers But I follow Helen and Ollie at twitter.com Slash Helen and Ollie with a Y Why? It's dilemma time
Starting point is 00:22:24 And we've had this one from an anonymous man who says... Stop. Dilemma time. It's disgusting. Don't be too jolly, Helen, because it is disgusting. Morals, morals, morals, morals. He says, I have a huge moral dilemma. All right, no need to show off. I'm currently divorcing my bitch-faced wife of 19 years.
Starting point is 00:22:44 That's a strong statement. It is, isn't it? That's quite aggressive. Immediately, I'm now divorcing my bitch face wife of 19 years oh that's um a strong statement it is isn't it yeah that's quite aggressive immediately i'm now on the side of his wife even though i don't know anything about the man yeah bitch face is not a nice it's harsh isn't it you think well okay you may be having acrimonia split we don't know she might have cheated on you maybe she has got a horrible face but maybe she's a lovely person behind it but you don't write to people you don't know and say my wife's a bitch face my bitch face wife is like the natural continuation of my so-called life 20 years later i'm currently divorcing my bitch face wife of 19 years and have started seeing someone who is not only 23 years my junior so cliche but also
Starting point is 00:23:18 my cousin that's coming up on the jerry Wow, okay 23 years my junior and also my cousin Gross The fact that I am 44 and she is 21 Does not really bother me That's because you're on the rebound Yeah, and because you're shagging a 21 year old If it was the other way around it would bother you, wouldn't it? It would bother you that she was 65, I reckon
Starting point is 00:23:39 It's the niggling thought That she is my uncle's daughter And that when she was born I was 23 That's nasty isn't it Yes I think the person I'm screwing now When I was their age
Starting point is 00:23:54 They weren't born Yeah It's like if I If I even think that I'll ever date anyone Who is currently nine Yeah That's an upsetting thought I think it's slightly
Starting point is 00:24:03 Refocusing this question here The age thing can be got over. It's the incest aspect that slightly worries me. Well, yes. You're hitting upon the question that is about to come, Martin, because he says, in the eyes of the law, this is
Starting point is 00:24:17 perfectly acceptable. No, God's not keen. But the law's alright with it. It's the most perfectly acceptable relationship, isn't it? But, Helen, answer me this. Is it a relationship I should pursue? For your information, and this is where the plot thickens even more, Helen. As if it needed to be thicker.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I have three kids, aged 12, 16 and 18. And my uncle says that he wants to date the middle one. Exactly. I cannot see how this can go wrong. I've got an 18-year-old child four years younger than my cousin who I'm having sex with. Gross. And she, my cousin, has a 20-month-old baby boy
Starting point is 00:24:59 from a bloke she is no longer involved with. So there's other children involved too. Let me anticipate the question. Helen, answer me this. What is my cousin's son's relation to me? Is he twice removed? How does it work? So Helen, answer me this.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Do I continue with this insane, incestuous relationship with the view of one day moving in together or do I let her down gently now before anyone gets hurt you missed a word off the sentence there more because people are already going to be hurt even if you remove the gross making family element the fact is this sounds like you're in a rebound relationship and i don't think you should date your cousin generally but especially not if it's the kind of relationship where you know you're getting over your bitch-faced wife and then you move on i think maybe you need to recover on your own not in a relationship at all especially when there are children involved especially when the children are similar age to your cousin girlfriend so i think you need to
Starting point is 00:25:58 nip it in the bud because otherwise if it ends acrimoniously family gatherings are going to be very very awkward forever well i think I think they're going to... But that's going to happen now anyway, at the point at which... You've had sex with your cousin. Exactly. Because you're going to see each other at every family wedding, funeral, whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Well... That's happening now anyway. The weddings are all within the family, aren't they? Who else are you going to invite? And I think you've got to think of your kids. This is such a head fuck for them. I think it'd be bad enough if it was a 21-year that had no relation to you but the fact it is one of your relations and it's your children's cousin as well that is just too much and that they're so close in age
Starting point is 00:26:34 yeah but then on the other hand i don't think you should be so didactic helen is to say what he definitely should do is end this because the point is he is in this relationship now he should have as much sex as he can get out of it, then end it. The option of never having done it in the first place is no longer on the table. It's happened. It could be argued, could it not, that the real damage of this would be the sensation, would be the shock of it happening,
Starting point is 00:26:57 and that now it's happened, actually, if they are in love. There's no mention of love. Really, the only serious objection to marrying your cousin should be about having children with them which i presume he's not interested in and she's already got a baby why would you presume that we have nothing to go on i suppose what i suppose what i'm saying is don't have children with her and then i think it's slightly less disturbing than it was anyway if your kids already know about it i think not only do you have the unsavouriness of sex with a family member but you do have this big social problem that you're creating.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And I think after a while, the sex will wear off if it turns into a longer term relationship. But the awkwardness will remain forever. So I think just take the easier way out and finish now. Also, I don't know, Anonymous Man, if any of your grandparents are alive. Right. So the person who is the progenitor of you and your uncle and your girlfriend. But I wonder whether they'd like it or dislike it, coming over
Starting point is 00:27:51 at Christmas and knowing that they were related to everyone in the room. No, but seriously, in a way it makes present buying easier, doesn't it? Because everyone's buying for the same grandparents. Yeah, so actually it is very practical yes great well with a bitter taste in our mouths we must come to the end of this episode
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