Answer Me This! - AMT269: Troll Dolls, Murder Houses and Cats' Bums

Episode Date: August 29, 2013

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Will Morgan Spurlock let Matt Cardall star in his next film? Has to be this, has to be this Is a mother I'd like to marry called a milm? Has to be this, has to be this Helen and Ollie, has to be this Summertime and the living is easy Unless you're Pat from Canada. Or me, listening to that.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I hate that song. I hate that song. Who says, I recently returned from a two-week vacation with my husband and our two children. While I will admit that my holiday wasn't all bad, I do not wish... What do?
Starting point is 00:00:39 I do not wish to go on vacation with my children ever again. I think maybe my parents preempted this by never going on holiday with us. Yeah. We just didn't go from the time I was eight. And they couldn't grow to hate you. No. Started from that point.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Thanks. They are aged 17 and 20. Realistically, Pat, they're not going to go on holiday with you again otherwise. No, they're virtually out of your hands now. That's it. They're not going to want to come on holiday with you. And you're not obliged to take them
Starting point is 00:01:04 because they're perfectly self-sufficient leave them at home and although continues pat i am used to their bickering at home i am not used to my husband trying to deal with it as i have always been the one to help them settle their arguments my husband thinks he can just tell them to stop and that will be the end of it how naive i spent two weeks playing referee between the three of them and found it very hard to really enjoy the trip when we split into twos it was better but that was only for short bits of time so helen answer me this how do i tell my family that i do not wish to travel with them ever again you don't really have to tell them you just don't do it if you're not purchasing the
Starting point is 00:01:42 holiday for your children then they're unlikely to go on it with you yes i think uh whatever you're considering whether it's a charming romantic break with your hubby or whether it's a girl's event where you take a couple of your female friends or whether it's even just some solo traveling i would say go ahead and do it once before saying anything to your children very good idea really very tactful because you might try it and actually not like it as well miss You might miss the bickering. Yeah, that's it, isn't it? Yeah. That's what would happen if this was a Disney film. You'd go
Starting point is 00:02:09 away, you'd spend loads of money, go on a solo trip and then you'd realise that you missed them. Hi, this is Liz from Scenes of the Oxfordshire. Helen and Ollie, answer me this. We've been looking around at houses recently and it's just suddenly come to us. If you have a conservatory is it
Starting point is 00:02:27 obligatory to buy wicker furniture i don't think it's obligatory but it's strongly encouraged i think what we're seeing here is a demographic overlap between people who like wicker furniture and people who build conservatories in their houses interesting you look at the advert for a conservatory it's never ray winston is it it's never it i'll tell you what you need you need a fucking conservatory um yeah it's the june whitfield type who advertises the conservatory that's because it is the june whitfield type who buys them and those people probably like wicker furniture that i mean that is the only explanation for it and also i think people are inspired by things they've seen in other people's houses and it becomes a bit of
Starting point is 00:02:59 a domino effect right we've all seen wicker furniture in a conservatory if you're the kind of person who's lusted after a conservatory perhaps you'll want exactly the one your friend has with the wicker furniture i wonder whether there's any practical advantage to wicker furniture because temperatures in conservatories fluctuate rapidly yeah maybe wicker a bit more flexible it's more able to take those extremes and actually the wicker furniture could take it into the garden if it's a bit warm you can open i was going to say that i think there's more crossover with the garden furniture designs and actually people like that they like the conservatory to be the room that's a bit warm, you can open it up. I was going to say that. I think there's more crossover with the garden furniture designs. And actually people like that. They like the conservatory to be the room that's a bit like the garden,
Starting point is 00:03:27 a bit like the house, somewhere in between. You don't want sort of tacky plastic chairs on the other hand. Yeah, exactly. You know, you don't want to have like a full chaise lounge. No, but it's wicker though. And wicker is, it's ugly and it's noisy. We had these wicker basket chairs at my grandparents' house when I was little and they kind of scream when you sit on them.
Starting point is 00:03:43 That's not relaxing. Conservatories are for relaxation. Well, that's a badly designed chair that you're describing. Well, it's wicker, isn't it? Wicker's not capable of much. I've never had a chair scream when I sit on them. No, never have I. My parents have got wicker furniture as well. I've sat on plenty of wicker.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Maybe my granny specifically bought the one they didn't feel very comfortable on. I think also, most conservatories, at least in this country, are still quite a cottage-y style, aren't they? And so having very modernist Zaha Hadid furniture would seem a bit inappropriate if you've got those kind of piney frames on your conservatory windows and all that.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Which actually probably is going to be a next big thing in interior design. Like, why should it be that if you want a conservatory, which is a practical idea in this country, you know, natural light coming in, and yet perhaps there's heating in there so you're not freezing coal all year, that makes a sensible case, doesn should it be that if you want a conservatory, which is a practical idea in this country, you know, natural light coming in, and yet perhaps there's heating in there, so you're not freezing coal all year. It makes a sensible case, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Why not invigorate the design of that? Well, I think people have, but then they wouldn't call it conservatory. They build a glass extension to their house, don't they? They'd call it something wanky, wouldn't they? Like, it's my indoor-outdoor space. Yeah. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:04:40 So if you're going to call it conservatory, and it's probably no accident that it sounds like conservative, you're going to go for a conservative look. So I think other people would have modernist furniture, but you wouldn't necessarily identify their glass box as a conservatory, would you? Here's another question of Holmes from Jennifer from New Hampshire. She says, I just watched a documentary on the infamous Lindbergh baby kidnapping of the 1930s in New Jersey, USA.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Not infamous in my house, mate. Ollie, answer me this. Would you purchase a home at which some tragic event had occurred? Is your new house a murder house? Okay, well, before I define that, I need some context here because I don't know this reference. In Limburg Baby, there was a rich family. The baby was kidnapped and held for ransom
Starting point is 00:05:19 and it's widely believed that the baby died while it was being held for ransom. It's quite a big national scandal it's sort of like the beginning of murder on the orient express but real okay i wouldn't buy that house but not because i'm superstitious and i think that the same thing would happen to my baby or anything or even because i would think oh i'm doing some ghoulish uh sort of death tourism thing because i know that i wouldn't be i'd be buying it because i like that house and let's be honest it's probably a bit cheaper because that thing happened there so that wouldn't
Starting point is 00:05:48 put me off but what would put me off is that other ghoulish death tourists would come outside yeah and then I'd forever be living in that house every cab drive you'd have the driver would say oh you live in limbo baby ass I don't that I wouldn't want to have that conversation all the time so for that reason I wouldn't that's a very practical way of looking at this, Ollie. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, I'm not superstitious, but when you're drawing up your pros and cons list, baby death in the house would definitely be in the con category,
Starting point is 00:06:13 wouldn't it? Very rare you're going to say that's a pro. However, in London, there are a lot of old buildings. Who knows what's happened to them through the centuries? In London, I dare say almost every house has had a baby die in it at some point. Or someone die horribly. Someone, but even you could go as far to say infant mortality because it used to be obviously something that happened a lot more than it does now even 100 years ago i suppose most deaths aren't notorious exactly this one's sensationalist but actually the fact that a
Starting point is 00:06:38 child died in the house is horrible but actually it's quite likely isn't it also the limberg baby now would be very likely dead anyway so i think the statute of limitations is passed with the tragic crime houses i'd feel all right with staying in a house that jack the ripper had ripped someone in i know what you mean actually because of course one of the things that makes it appealing to stay in a country house is that it's got those kinds of oh the ghost of henry ii's brother haunts these corridors oh you know so and so got hung outside and it's like then it's then it's mystique that you are actually selling and when does that happen when when does that kick in like after 300 years i don't know but there definitely
Starting point is 00:07:14 is a point you're right where you can actually sell that uh deliberately but i can't imagine you ever doing that with like fred westhouse for example well no they tore it down yeah but exactly but even in 300 years i don't think people would want to stay there as a fun no weekend away so i think it's the way in which the people died in the building i think with fred west the associations with the sexual abuse of children probably takes out the kind of haunting ghost thing probably you could set forth a program of significant urban renewal just by campaigning murders. That would be one of the more unsatisfying resolutions to... Jonathan Quick episodes. Yeah, exactly. So retrospective, what historical events are we ticking off on this week's run of Today in History?
Starting point is 00:08:18 On Monday, we bring you the real story of the mutiny on the bounty. On Tuesday, the anniversary of the day somebody invented the meatball, but who? On Wednesday, the iconic British car that ripped off an iconic American car. On Thursday, how American airlines invented air miles. And on Friday, the UFO sighting that gripped colonial America. We discuss this and more on Today in History with The Retrospectors. 10 minutes each weekday, wherever you get your podcasts your podcasts well here is a dream come true for you ollie because hannah has written to say i have two questions of cats okay this is exciting on the other hand the fact that helen has let not one but two questions of cats through the gate i'm weak i just want to see him happy again listeners does rather suggest that this will be the cat quotient for this series so this year i'm going
Starting point is 00:09:03 to luxuriate in this. Hannah says, Ollie, answer me this. Why do cats rub their cheeks on things? I think it's a bit creepy, but are they marking their place? Yeah, essentially, yes. They've got scent glands, haven't they, on their cheeks? Correct, scent glands in the cheeks.
Starting point is 00:09:17 They're basically saying, this piece of furniture, it's worth me staking a claim on it, this. It's mine. I want to know that it's mine. I want to know when I come back that I can't smell another cat on it. Because my opening gambit with cats is usually giving me a little rub on the side of their neck and they love it yes is that is that actually me stimulating their scent glands no
Starting point is 00:09:33 actually the neck is a different thing again because the neck behind the ear i can't really distinguish a cat's parts they're just like a furry tube and i don't care they are distinct um the neck they particularly enjoy apparently and only give you access if they trust you because that's a part of the body that they can't really reach idiot so it's like an extra special sensation for them um the scent glands are behind the cheeks the ears is a totally different thing i don't know what's going on with the ears there but um yeah they all have a different combination of pheromones so it's a unique combination well not unique it's from another cat like it but unlikely there's another cat in the vicinity like it yeah so uh they are absolutely marking claim
Starting point is 00:10:08 on territory and it was really interesting actually to me not to you i'm saying in advance probably wouldn't be to you really interesting to me when we introduced coco to the new furniture in the house oh coco meet sofa you can have a great relationship together uh because coco had been a cattery for four to five weeks came into the house we bought some new furniture and there was some furniture that she recognized from the old property hey old friend orange chair well no what was interesting was she didn't go to the stuff she knew she went to the stuff she didn't she needed to conquer it yeah and you could watch her going into the room for the first time i actually videoed it believe it or not for my pleasure i won't show it to you um and it was really interesting to me how she
Starting point is 00:10:44 just went for the stuff that was brand new and she marked it she could obviously smell before even going up to it that she knew certain bits of furniture right and that was without having seen it for you know five or six weeks well it seems more civilized to have that gland in your neck than dogs having it in their piss yes i think that's right yeah and of course it means it still works even when you've been neutered uh because when cats get neutered they lose their desire to mark things with piss. Yay! Dogs never lose that desire. Never lose it, no. Here is Hannah's
Starting point is 00:11:08 second question of cats. She says, Ollie, answer me this. Why, when you stroke cats, do they put their bums in the air? My mum always told me not to stroke the bottom of their tails
Starting point is 00:11:16 because that's where fleas lay their eggs. I'm not sure that's right. Why would they put their bums in the air? That strikes me as two separate issues. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:23 The flea thing, I don't know about. Is it like a sexual signal? Yes. Cat owners don't like to discuss this. Because it's your horrible secret. Well, it's because you are essentially tickling the cat's G-spot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I mean, think about it. Catty style is not that different to doggy style. That area just above the arsehole is where the male cat would be resting its paws so that is how they prepare themselves for sexual activity so they're they're raising it up so that it's at the right height for gripping yes but obviously that's an instinctive reaction i'm sure the cat isn't actually thinking that at the time and interestingly male cats do it as well as female cats it's just that that is a sensitive area linked to their sexual technique so when you do it that's what they're feeling it. It's a more sensitive area.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It is like... Well, when you stroke them on the tail? It's on the bone above the arse, basically. So the back just... Yeah, between the back and the tail. On the cat's corner? Yeah. I do feel sick talking about cat sex.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And yet you probably feel better than you've ever felt. Yeah, I love it. I could happily do that. I could do all these cat questions all day long. If you want to give your cat particularly powerful orgasms, Ollie, where do you touch them? That's not such a case of touching, it's penetrating. No, not all orgasms are penetrative, Dr Freud. This region is famous for its wine, a drink which comes in red, white and somewhere in between.
Starting point is 00:12:44 It may take some getting used to, but the more wine you drink, the more delicious it becomes. It's that time of the stinky toilets or frightening food. Out now at answermethispodcast.com slash albums. It's that time of the show where we take a question off the phone line, the number for which is... 0208 123 58 007 Or you can Skype Answer Me This if you use Skype. And let's see who has done that today. Hello, it's Pip. Hello, Ollie, Answer Me This if you use Skype. And let's see who has done that today. Hello, it's Pip. Hello, Ollie.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Answer Me This. Why do piano players have page turners? Other instruments don't, so I don't understand why the piano is so special. I'd never thought about this before. I never thought how greedily pianists were hogging all of the page turners. I'm not sure I was even aware that page turning was an absolutely universal thing across pianists. I'm sure I've seen piano players where they don't have page turners but then they probably have to time very carefully a little uh breaking the action the reason that a lot of classical pianists so obviously
Starting point is 00:13:53 pop pianists turn their own pages if there are pages to be turned probably it's all in their heads anyway they can just jazz it can't they yeah and and indeed jazz pianists they can jazz it too they wouldn't be in a job otherwise i I mean, page turners are for squares. But those square classicists, the reason they have page turners is because in the hear-a-pin-drop atmosphere of a charged concert hall... You don't want the...
Starting point is 00:14:16 You don't want the thwack. Apparently it is that. Apparently if you work your hands into a rage playing a fast tune... I know I shouldn't call it a tune. Tune! Let's call it a movement a movement okay um then what what your hands will inevitably do when you flick the pages quickly go yeah what if you knock it all off the stand well that could happen to you all sorts does what if
Starting point is 00:14:36 you haven't licked your finger because you probably haven't got the time yeah and you turn over too many pages yeah that can happen too uh so for all those reasons it's it's ruining the beautiful music for the real true classic aficionados, and they like to hear a soundless page turn. But how do the violinists get away with it? I bet there are examples where violinists have page turners, but generally speaking... You can't have 80 page turners in an orchestra.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Well, I reckon the flutist probably turns the violinist's page when necessary. This is the thing, isn't it? What are the chances they'll be both playing at the same time? Actually, bassoonists don't get to do very much, so they're probably running around doing everyone else's aren't they pretty self-sufficient orchestra i don't know that collegiate they're all very competitive well that's true i don't think they do turn each other's pages i think it's quite impractical to do so but maybe maybe the piano is the only instrument where neither of your hands
Starting point is 00:15:17 are free well i think that's right i was reflecting the last time i saw a classical recital how in tune no pun intended the page turner and the pianist have to be well they have to be you don't want a page turner that turns it a little too early or too late even worse or makes the real schoolboy era of turning it from the bottom always turn from the top oh yeah because you're going to reach across the music as the pianist is reading it kind of idiot hole would do that the optimum is for the audience not really to notice that the page turner is there which is my eyes are fixed on the page turner And nothing else
Starting point is 00:15:47 I'm usually sitting there shouting Turn that page Page turners are kind of like the ball boys and ball girls Of music Yeah they are exactly like that And equally like the ball boys and ball girls They can get bruised If you sit too close to the pianist
Starting point is 00:16:02 And it's a very lively Beethoven You get elbow in the ribs Naturally Well you can't be too close to the pianist and it's a very lively bait over and get elbow in the ribs naturally well you can't you can't be too close because the pianist would be inhibited yes and yet close enough that you can lean over and turn the page i mean it's very delicate okay pop quiz yeah that's your classical quiz i suppose um uh page turner changes the page accidentally turns two together yes happens has to turn it back How long would it be before the pianist fucked up? But the point is, a pianist who's really in tune with his page turner will have
Starting point is 00:16:29 concocted a signal between the two of them in advance to mean something's gone wrong here. Like this. The page turner immediately recognises they've gone wrong, but their pages are stuck together. Takes them a second to do it. The pianist would improvise. A really good pianist would improvise even though... Just does it. Yeah. Because even though The audience would know
Starting point is 00:16:45 The really you know Well versed ones In classical music Would know something's gone wrong It's the same as when A classical actor Forgets their lines In Shakespeare at the RSC
Starting point is 00:16:51 They may have forgotten The end of the verse But they have to say Something that sounds Shakespearean Yeah They have to say something Now is the winter
Starting point is 00:16:58 Of our miserable time So what they do Is they go back To the beginning of the speech Don't they Until someone helps them out They just say the same thing again Once more On to the breach dear friends Once go back to the beginning of the speech, don't they, until someone helps them out, they just say the same thing again. Once more onto the breach, dear friends.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Once more onto the breach, dear friends. Helen, how many minutes should I bake a cake for before it gets all burned and dry Ollie! How many onions can I slice Before my eyes start to cry And Martin! How many sausages would you like For your evening meal?
Starting point is 00:17:46 If you answer me these, I'll be very pleased. That describes how I feel. Here's a question from Carl from Newcastle who says, Being quite an avid Nintendo fan, I've played many games with yoshi do the dinosaur yes but one question has always bugged me debug me now ollie answer me this is yoshi male or female yoshi can lay eggs yet yoshi is a male japanese name i think you're twisting yourself into knots here trying to work out reasons for why Yoshi is or isn't male. Is Yoshi's gender really an important part of the story of the game?
Starting point is 00:18:29 No, it's certainly not. And you're right that he lays eggs. Is Yoshi a platypus? Yoshi is a man. I mean, he's not a man. He's a dinosaur. Yoshi is a male dinosaur. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And I know that because if you go to the primary source, if you go on the Nintendo website, it will say things like he first appeared in so and so. So Yoshi is a male character. However, there are giveaway clues to this, even though he lays eggs. One is that he's always been voiced by men in the cartoons and in the video games. Now, I know that there's a tradition of women playing boys, like in The Simpsons. And in Panto. Yes, indeed. But very rarely, I can't think of a single example,
Starting point is 00:19:02 am I aware of a cartoon or a video game where a male character is voiced by a woman, an adult male, is voiced by, unless the character is deliberately a drag artist or someone with a hormonal imbalance, and they're making play of that. So it's transgender then? No, he's not. He's just a male dinosaur. But he lays eggs. But he's fantastical
Starting point is 00:19:20 that's not physically possible. He lives in Mario Land. He's trying to educate children that biological gender and people's preferences are different. Look, he's the Nintendo version of Virginia Woolf's Orlando. I think we can all agree on that. Also, it seems that the egg-laying is hardly the only liberty taken with the truth in the Mario games. Why do you think his egg comes out of his penis? What's the matter with you?
Starting point is 00:19:43 The egg-laying is to aid the plot. It's to give him a thing. That's his thing's his special power it's what he does why doesn't he do a male thing like urinating everywhere um actually some of the fantastical stuff is quite realistic though like mario does drive twice as fast when he's high on mushrooms so uh some of it's real but saying that yoshi is a male name and therefore yoshi is a male is getting you down way down into shit creek because if you actually google yoshi uh it comes up with a female japanese volleyball player yoshi takashita i'm not making that up yeah um so there you go most famous yoshi in the world female according to google i had a male friend at school called yoshi
Starting point is 00:20:24 so i can confirm there are male Japanese boys called Yoshi But obviously it's a unisex name I knew a girl at school called Steve Not short for anything, just Steve That's bold by her parents That is just creating something she's got to explain every bloody day of her life That's annoying, isn't it? Well, on this subject of retro children's characters
Starting point is 00:20:41 And yes, I know that adults play video games But they are all losers Here's a question from Diane you're an idiot or they're like Martin who says Helen answer me this where did troll
Starting point is 00:20:50 dolls go in a massive furnace hopefully what horrid little things they were I just thought it was incredible that they were ever popular in the first place
Starting point is 00:20:59 bearing in mind they look like gay rabbis in spandex and not only popular in the first place but in the second place and the third place they had several peaks of popularity they've never been away really well no you're wrong ollie you're wrong she's saying where did they go well we have to go back in time to find out why trolls are no longer the popular horrid little things that they used to be as they were
Starting point is 00:21:18 invented in 1959 by a danish woodcutter called thomas dam it would be scandinavian wouldn't it oh well trolls are big in Scandinavia. Trolls are huge in Scandinavia. Or tiny, like pencil-top trolls. Sure, yeah. Of course. And he carved it himself as a present for his child. Quite hard to carve that face out of wood.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah, well, maybe the original face was slightly less troll-y. And the hair was made out of sheep's wool. And they were a big hit. Yes. And so more trolls and more trolls. But there was an error of sheep's wool, and they were a big hit. Yes. And so more trolls and more trolls, but there was an error in his copyright document, which meant that anybody went and made knock-off trolls and flooded the market.
Starting point is 00:21:53 What a silly man. I know. However, in 2003, the Dam Company managed to re-seize control of the troll brand. Okay, so in the 2000s, they've got the brand back. So they've got the brand back, so that meant that they became the only manufacturer again, which means you didn't have millions and millions of trolls out on the market.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So that's why trolls have been a little bit on the down low for the last 10 years. Oh, so actually now they've got the brand, they don't necessarily know what to do with it to get trolls back. Well, here's a sad twist in the tale though, Ollie, because very recently, DreamWorks have acquired the intellectual property rights to trolls. And you know what that means. Awful films that parents are going to have to endure at the cinema to replicate the troll faces on a big screen can you imagine but actually maybe it's that people in an actual intrinsic need to rebel against the mainstream need occasionally to invent these characters that are in some way
Starting point is 00:22:40 repulsive like cabbage patch kids are truly horrible the clever thing to do now if you're making toys because we are in a cutesy period now aren cabbage patch kids are truly horrible. The clever thing to do now if you're making toys, because we are in a cutesy period now, aren't we? It comes and goes like this with boy bands and girl bands as well. You get street smart ones, don't you? And then someone comes along and has to invent one direction because they haven't been around for a while, that kind of cutesy thing.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So now's the time probably to do slightly aggressive... Something a bit scatty. Something to make the Daily Mail upset, yeah. What, like a Furby that swears? A Swerby? A Tamagotchi that is just going, you're not my real mum! So how many trolls did you have?
Starting point is 00:23:10 One. Just the one? Yeah. I wasn't that into them, to be honest. I think I cut its hair off. And then once you've got a troll with no hair, all you've got is a plastic nub. So that was the end of that, really.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I was never that into dolls, actually. No. And so I was not the kind of person that had a whole row of the little things no in fact some adults still collect them now and i i cannot even imagine the psychological damage they must suffer to want to do that well that's what i was thinking when you said trolls have been away i was thinking well no they haven't because people are collecting them it's a different side of the market stockpiling that's why the market's been a bit weak i had a troll too but the reason i had a troll was uh my friends had ones with like pink hair blue hair yellow i had a troll that had hair
Starting point is 00:23:50 that was rainbow colored like a feather duster drugs troll so so it had it had pink and yellow and blue and green in its hair and i was like well troll makers you just shot yourself in the foot i don't need to buy another one i don't need to swap see this is the ultimate troll isn't it that's like the four color biro in one exactly exactly like that who once you had one of those you'd be a fool to go to smith to buy normal biro wouldn't you you'd literally be an idiot please send us an email we love to keep in touch if you send us an email we'll like you very much it's It's Answer me this podcast at googlemail.com That's Answer me this podcast at googlemail.com So please send us an email
Starting point is 00:24:31 Or we won't know you're there And if we like your email We'll read it out on air Here is a question from Lorna Who says, Ollie, answer me this When you buy a website domain Who are you buying it from? Well, I'm buying it from GoDaddy,
Starting point is 00:24:47 but that's because they've got my credit card details on file, so it's easy. Who are they, though? And why do they come to own things that don't really exist? Well, that's a quite philosophical question. I know. That's why I don't understand it. Actually, you never truly own, and I'm not being philosophical here, this is just a fact,
Starting point is 00:25:04 you never truly own, and I'm not being philosophical here, this is just a fact, you never truly own a web domain. You are actually just owning the exclusive right to direct it somewhere. We don't live in this world, we just rent it. Exactly. And the internet is kind of like that, because of course it expires, doesn't it, after a set period of years, however many you've paid for, and then someone else can buy it. You don't own it, you're just buying the right to use it. Okay, but that's the equivalent of renting. But still, why is it that somebody is in the
Starting point is 00:25:26 position of renting it to you how did they come to own it well okay so the the various different domain name registrars they are in turn uh just one of the registered services who are authorized by i can which is the internet corporation for assigned names and numbers how do they bloody sneak in and grab all of this authority and money-making scheme for themselves? Because the US government told them to by creating it. Because before that,
Starting point is 00:25:52 and this is the really cool fact, but also quite weird, before that, before ICANN existed, the US government owned domain names. Ah! All of them? All of them. Why them, though? Why not the Paraguayan government? Because the structure of the all of them so why them though why not like the paraguayan
Starting point is 00:26:05 government because the structure of the internet was created in the states and so it came under the jurisdiction of the u.s and the u.s government had a department that dealt with it until at some point i guess someone said you know what this web thing might take off could be a bit awkward they probably didn't foresee wiki leaks but they probably thought you know it's a bit awkward if the u.s government authorizes everything online, even in a hands-off way. Potential conflict of interest as well. Let's create a Quango. So they did.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. So that's what ICANN is. Even though ICANN, I think, sounds like a potty training device. A bit like CanDo. I can do it too with domains. Yeah. What I think is also incredible is that in the 1980s, when they were setting up the World Wide Web, they had the foresight to create not only the country-based suffices so.co.uk and.au and yeah not.uk
Starting point is 00:26:50 which would have been better than.co.uk that's true but nonetheless they had the foresight to reckon that people would probably want a geographical tie but they also had the foresight to set up the seven generic top level domains can you name the seven generic top level domains. Can you name the seven generic top level domains? Now.com is one. Okay, org, a deer, gov, is that one? Gov, a drop of golden sun. EDU? Yes, very good.
Starting point is 00:27:16 .net? Yes,.net, very good. .biz? No,.biz wasn't one of the original ones..tv? No. Not.world or something? Yeah, it is, It's.int. Int? Who on earth would ever use that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:28 .internet? I guess as in.international of no particular... Well, I've got a wonderful website, b.int. And the other one, I didn't know, but it's a US military one,.mil. Well, I thought.org was meant to suggest some kind of higher purpose. Yeah, like charity. It's just just any old bullshit isn't it well this is the problem with things being governed in america like in a way it's great because free speech and you're allowed to do more things on the internet the flip side of that is any old tool can go and register dot org and there's
Starting point is 00:27:58 no there's no quality control because it's freedom of speech you can say dick smack dot org yeah exactly well on that bombshell we have reached the end of this episode of answer me this if you would like to get in touch with the question for next
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