Answer Me This! - AMT294: Bowling Shoes, Pole Vault and Nude Sunbathing
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Will this theme tune last longer than Cheryl's new marriage?
Answer me this, answer me this
Is that tattoo on her arse of a red cabbage?
Answer me this, answer me this
Helen and Ollie, answer me this
Sorry listeners for the disruption to your regular fortnightly answer me this schedule.
What happened was, we all needed a holiday.
We've all been on our summer holidays
we went to iceland which is like winter all the time and i went to paris which is like a big plate
of food with some building sprouting out the top and a subtle smell of piss it does smell of wheat
it does it's a little bit yeah iceland smells of sulphur. When you're having a shower and the hot water is geothermal,
it does stink of eggs.
Iceland is a country that illustrates very effectively
the three states of matter for water,
because there's a lot of ice, obviously, in the name,
and there's water.
Amazing waterfalls.
Yeah, amazing waterfalls.
And then steam, because they've got the geysers
popping out all the time.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
Eggy, again.
Oh, really?
Yeah, they don't look eggy on TV.
No, you don't get the smell of it.
Did you ever stand underneath one and pretend to be Michael Jackson in Earth Song when it burst up?
No.
Shame.
But the water would scald you right up the undercarriage.
Well, it's worth it to be eggy Michael Jackson for just one day.
Here's a question from Craig in Stafford who says,
I was on Google Maps and looked at the street view of Downing Street and noticed that number 10 is all blurred out.
Yeah, that's what it's like in real life. You've never been.
It's all blurry.
Well, he asked me this.
Why is this the case?
As everyone knows what number 10 looks like.
A terrorist using Google Maps to see potential targets.
Well, yes, basically, that's the fear.
Right.
I'm surprised that the Google Street View car was allowed up Downing Street.
I'm not.
Massive publicity win that, isn't it?
Yeah, but the gates are shut.
Yeah, I know, but they arranged it in advance, I think it's probably fair to suppose.
Spontaneous. I was passed by the Google Street View car a few days ago.
Did you wave and do a silly bell face?
No, I didn't do any funny jokes that in two years' time would have seemed really funny and clever.
You've got to think of something that's prescient, haven't you?
And what can you do that's physical comedy that's going to be funny
in, as you say, two years' time?
I guess squatting to look like
you're having a shit
is always funny.
Couldn't beat those people
in Scotland that did
the fake murder scene.
That was very quick thinking.
Yeah, that's nice.
Difficult.
So I'd suggest to you listeners,
have a prank in mind,
just in case.
Can you do some sort of
visual joke that's about
data privacy or robots?
Because that would be
quite a good visual...
A visual joke about data privacy?
Yeah.
You'd need to walk around with your own little blurry screen that you hold up in front of yes brilliant it
could be quite funny do you think that's why they had to blur it out because david cameron was doing
a funny joke for the google street view car just wasn't funny two years later no um so yeah no it
does appear that the british government had a about turn on this as they never do with any of
their other policies oh no um and this was that yes they did indeed allow the google street view
car down downing street to take a picture much like at the white house you can not only see the
outside but also inside the building as well it was a big flagship thing you know downing street
working with google da da da partnership exciting and then after this recent law was passed saying
that you are allowed to request that buildings are blurred uh after which point i think uh paul
mccartney's asked for his house to be blurred Paul McCartney's asked for his house to be blurred,
Tony Blair has asked for his house to be blurred.
Tony Blur.
Tony Blur.
Wait, wait, but isn't that really counterproductive?
Because then you can just figure out where they live.
You know they live roughly in this area,
and you can just look for the blurry house.
Yes, but you can't necessarily see what number the house is, for example.
Well, you can look at number 10 and number 14.
People will be able to find out where Paul McCartney lives
because he's had the same place in Peasmarsh for decades.
But it's probably harder
to go and case his house
from the street
than it is to look at a picture online
and figure the most vulnerable
entrance points.
And also just knowing like,
you know,
oh, Paul,
you've got that yellow plant pot
in your window.
It's just a bit weird, isn't it?
A bit personal.
So I don't know why
Downing Street is now on the list.
As you might imagine,
they haven't released information
to Google about why this
would be, but I imagine it must be
a security thing, obviously. They've decided
that there is too much of a risk that people would be looking
at it thinking, where could they throw a bomb, basically.
But it's on like a hundred thousand
postcards. Well, I was going to say TV shows.
So you could just take a little bit of Sky News and go,
oh yeah, that's how high the window is. I can trip it.
Yes, but I wonder if you can
actually, in the same kind of clever ways,
use the data in different systems, like cross-reference that data with other data.
So if it's all computerised and you've got an image,
could you run a programme on Google Street View that shows where you'd run to plant the bomb?
Because it's just easier to just take it off, isn't it?
Well, here's a question from Fergus, who says,
capers can be very difficult to source in manchester for uncivilized place smaller
supermarkets don't stock them which calls for a terrible trip to a terrible big supermarket
can you mail order them capers.com maybe i think there are lots of things you can only get from
big supermarkets so you just lump them all together don't you and you only go occasionally
well in manchester you could go to booths i'm sure booths have got booths are
all over the capers and it is a caper going to booths absolutely uh despite this says fergus i
am a fan of capers the heart wants what the heart wants and but helen answer me this actually what
is a caper for many years i thought they grew in the sea due to their affiliation with seafood like parsley and lemons chips yeah and i continue to
refer to them as the olive of the sea you renegade although my girlfriend does not accept this
appellation a caper fergus is a pickled bud of the shrub caparis spinosa and caper berries are the
fruits of the same so when you're buying a caper you're're not buying the berry? No, you're buying the bud.
You're buying, so like the head of a flower?
A prepubescent flower.
Yeah, which is kind of what it looks like.
Whereas the caper berries are smooth and they've got a stalk usually, and they're bigger.
But I know what he means because it is so associated with seafood.
You do think maybe it's, because I knew it was a plant.
Like you can tell looking at it, it's a plant.
But I thought maybe...
Duh, Fergus, everyone knows it's a plant.
But I did think maybe it was a plant that grows near the sea or even in the seabed. It's not inconceivable that it's a plant but i thought but i did think maybe it was a plant that grows
near the sea or even in the sea it's not inconceivable that it's a bit of seaweed exactly
well no it only thrives in arid climates or semi-arid climates and in fact even too much
humidity can cause it to rot a bit right so the reason why they have this slightly marine taste
is because people only eat them after they've been pickled because otherwise they don't taste
very good in ancient greece capers were used as a cure for flatulence i wonder if that works
would you just shove it up your ass hi it's harriet from cambridge um i'm just folding at
the moment so helen and ollie will you answer me this um what is it about bowling shoes why do they
have this hideous black and red stripe?
What is the origin of that story?
Why do all bowling shoes look like this?
Well, not all bowling shoes look like that.
It's just that is the most commonly stereotyped bowling shoe
because most bowling shoes otherwise just look like shoes.
I'd be very disappointed if I went to the bowling alley
and they weren't in the bowling shoe style.
No clown shoes.
No, if they were just normal shoes
or even just like, you know,
Converse trainers or something.
Yeah.
I'd feel cheated.
I think a lot of bowlers though
think those shoes are ugly.
So there are many styles available.
But I think these ones
are the stereotypical bowling shoe,
partly because they have no associations
with other things.
So you think bowling shoe.
Secondly, because they don't want you
to nick the shoes
and those shoes are so ridiculous
and also blatantly bowling shoes
that they think, well,
no one wants to look like a clown. I think that's a huge part of it, not stealing the shoes. And those shoes are so ridiculous and also blatantly bowling shoes that they think, well, no one wants to look like a clown.
I think that's a huge part of it, not stealing the shoe.
And I think maybe thirdly, the aesthetic of bowling seems to be
from a mid-20th century Americana perspective.
And these shoes sum that up more than subsequent styles.
Yeah, because it's a bit like this with the computer graphics, isn't it?
At the bowling alley, you know, you get a strike and the computer goes strike
and the alligator comes out the water
and dishes out an X or whatever.
A picture of Doris Day comes up.
Well, it's specifically 1980s,
early 1980s when they digitised the bowling alleys.
And yet that was an era
kind of in love with the 50s.
Yes.
So you've got the general kind of trend
of the bowling alley.
You know, there's normally a place
that sells burgers and fries there.
You have the music, which typically will be 50s and 60s music you have the shoes
yeah and then you and then the graphics come from the 1980s now it's not as if the technology
hasn't existed in the last 30 years for them to update those graphics but they choose not to
because they're selling an experience that is rooted in nostalgia aren't they and i think the
shoes are part of that i agree i think if yeah you know if if nike or reebok came along and
redesigned the bowling shoe and made them cooler you still would want
the old one all i've got on the brain at the moment though is we're gonna score tonight from
greece 2 oh i'm not familiar enough with the film thankfully for that to be uh well what it is is a
clever double meaning because the scoring not only refers to sex but also bowling as in my favorite
song from the hunting of the snark i'm going to be snookering you tonight well done for for out obscuring grease too as a musical reference when
you go bowling are you a bit apprehensive like you said that like it's a regular thing i haven't
been bowling since i had back trouble so that puts us in 1997 i go about once a decade because
i have very poor spatial awareness so it's not very enjoyable for me to fail i actually went with a work trip um about five years ago and that was pre-shoulder dislocation
it was pre-shoulder dislocation but post back trouble so i was taking it easy um but what was
funny was because it's a sport even though it's not really a sport yeah i still wasn't taking it
that seriously because i can't because it's a sport it's meant to be a fun game yeah it's like
mini golf you look like a dick if you take mini golf too seriously right but there was a guy there and he was american working in britain he was from new york
but he'd lived in britain for 20 years did he have his name engraved on the bowling ball yes
he turned up with his own bowling ball his own bowling shirt he's like the guy that marge simpson
almost has an affair with it was so cool but also what was cool is he's about 50 and bald
yeah so it was it was the combination of yeah but like his persona in the office would not be
someone he was a new york intellectual in his 50s living in britain like the persona of that being
someone who has their own bowling ball and was really into bowling he took it so seriously i
never seen anything like it like when he went to bowl he sort of cleared out either side of him
yeah he looked from left to right he got down on one knee and sort of like looked like he was
sniffing the tarmac before he got up and bowled extraordinary was it any good
yeah it was great
you bloody hope so
with all that ritual
what I was going to say
is when you go bowling
do you feel apprehensive
putting on the shoes
that have been worn
by the steamy feet
of strangers
no because I always
am very reassured
by the spray
the spray
you know just before
you put the shoe on
they go
and then it comes out
it looks like a
rainforest effect
in a theme park
it's like a virgin shoe again.
Yeah.
What is the point?
I mean, you're not supposed to scuff the ground, is that it?
It's to keep the bowling alleys clean and on scratch,
but also the soles are to help you glide
because a street shoe would make you stick to the lane
so you couldn't really do the proper glide as you bowled.
You're supposed to glide?
Yeah.
This is the thing.
I mean, probably one in 20 bowlers in the UK takes that.
Well, a proper bowler who has
their own shoes one shoe will be glidy and the other shoe will be grippy so you can get your
posture perfect it's a bit like when you go ice skating isn't it i mean obviously you have to use
their shoes when you do that because you can't get your own trainers or a nice drink but they
give you ice shoes that that really a decent ice skater couldn't use like they're you know you
can't be brilliant in them, can you?
It's like wearing a plaster cast of your own foot.
Exactly.
And yet, most people still probably don't use
the limited features that are provided
on the ice shoe that they give you at the rink.
Well, how could I when I'm clinging to the barrier
the whole time?
All you're doing is clinging to the barrier,
pushing yourself around.
What I really need is crutches
when I go ice skating.
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Here's a question from Andy
from Manchester who says the top 40 chart
is now allowing streamed music from manchester who says the top 40 chart is now
allowing streamed music from spotify and others in the official chart i can't help feeling helen
you should be doing this question in the style of alan fluff freeman and this is an opportunity
in the top 40 chart now they're allowing spotify and naps to streaming yeah that's not a great
impression i should never i should never have because it's very rarely presented by a woman.
Until now, but I can't do an impression of Jamila Jamil.
Not off.
That's a really good impression of Jamila Jamil.
That's exactly what she does.
That's how she's so down with the kids.
Ollie, answer me this.
Yeah.
How many times would I need to stream a song to be number one?
And what was the lowest amount of singles bought to ever make it to number one?
Okay, so the fewest selling singles bought to ever make it to number one okay so the fewest
selling number one record ever in a week uh was uh awesome's no tomorrow oh which i completely
forgot that song earlier i thought i can't believe my ears this can't be happening i was like what
was that song but when i played it i was like oh yeah that one i meant they were very arrogant
because they called their album your favorite band or Band or something Oh yeah Your New Favourite Band Bellends Look how well it turned out
for them
How many sales?
So they sold
in one week
17,694 copies
and got to number one
And that's the lowest
That's the lowest
for a weekly sale
to get to number one
in the UK
When was that?
So mid 2000s
So that's when it reached
its nadir
because that was when
the sales chart
was still based solely
on physical sales
Oh yeah
So iTunes didn't count then
So iTunes didn't count
As soon as digital sales started taking on board as well,
then you got back up to a kind of figure of 100,000,
which is what it used to be.
I think, I'm pretty sure that Natasha Bedingfield
was the first person at number one
when they started including iTunes.
I can believe it.
And this time with streaming, it's Ariana Grande.
It's not necessarily the most memorable act
that get these landmarks.
Well, the biggest streaming act ever is Bastille.
Whoa! I'm not even sure
I know a single Bastille song. I know. Who are they?
It's a French prison.
It's just the same
as people moaning and clinking cups against bars.
And having their heads cut off.
I'm not surprised they're popular, but I was surprised that's the biggest
streaming song ever. Yeah. What is it?
Pompeii. And if you close
your eyes...
Why is that called Pompeiiii and if you close your eyes why is that called
pompeii and if you close your eyes you can see the frescoes on the house of the vertigini that's
pretty much it yeah bastille i've been to pompeii as well uh what's unfair as well about this whole
streaming thing firstly napster i'd forgotten that that was a going concern i hadn't even heard
the name used in the last 10 years i know it it's a music sales site now, but really, who cares?
Yeah.
Secondly, 100 streams equates to one sale.
That's right.
Which I think is a bit skewed.
I think that's...
I understand how...
Okay, so on the first point, yes, they do mention all of these ridiculous other rivals to Spotify
to justify that they're not just mentioning Spotify when really it is just about Spotify.
And yet, YouTube is where a whole generation gets their singles from.
Yeah.
And that's not included.
But not Deezer and RDO and Xbox Music.
I mean, seriously.
Xbox Music.
Come on.
Nokia chart.
I know, ridiculous.
But anyway, so yeah, snaps to whatever.
But basically it's about Spotify.
You might as well like, you know,
music I've heard blasting out of a car
that passed me by on the street.
Can I just point out that my music is available
on all of these terrible services?
Really, Xbox Radio?
I think so, yeah.
But anyway, 100 streams on Spotify, yes, now counts as one sale.
Yeah, that's a lot of listening to an advert about British Gas, though.
I think it's too much because I think, obviously, it makes sense to say, look, just streaming
it once or twice, that's the same as just incidentally hearing it on the radio.
That doesn't count as a sale.
Yeah.
You're not making the same commitment.
I get that.
But surely somewhere less than 100
Like 50
If you listen to something 50 times
You like it as much as if you bought it
50
I mean surely that should count
And who bloody buys singles now anyway?
Exactly
At the moment
Since it does take 100 streams to count as one purchase
And the average single now
Sells around 100,000 copies a week
Really?
To get to number one
That's oh okay
um you would need to uh stream a song if it was just you single-handedly on spotify and no one
else was buying it in the shops you would have to stream it 10 million times there's probably
software that can auto repeat stream for you yeah but i don't think you could stream a three and a
half minute pop song 10 million times in a week could you single-handedly oh if it's a complete
play yeah no you think you have to stream it for more than a minute for it
to count right it gets very messy so 10 million is the answer you'd have to stream it 10 million
times to get a number one but when you stack that up against youtube i mean like the sort of gang
lamb stars of the world got like a billion hits didn't they over the over a countable period yeah
10 million youtube hits isn't a particularly successful song is it um it's like a moderate
yeah but that's in a week remember yeah maybe it's a moderate hit for like a big pop-up size gentleman which was the fastest growing youtube video was
38 million in a week if you want scale but um i'm saying this is to reach a target of 100 000 copies
per week yeah that's what currently a number one single on average sells but that is because we're
still in a sales-based world when it changes to a streaming-based world,
it might well be the case that actually now
you're going to be getting things that have sold
a combination of 100,000 physical or digital sales
with, say, 5 million streams.
So actually, it could be that to get to number one
will be even harder if you're trying to do it just through streaming.
Well, here is another musical question from Elliot from Wrexham,
who's been listening to this podcast for bloody ages.
Oh, I love Elliot.
He's been listening since the pre-digital sales age.
When it was delivered on Mike's cylinder by horseback.
Elliot, am I right in thinking that you're one of the people
that we recruited in the first few months of this podcast
by grooming you on MySpace?
I know it sounds bad, but you're an adult now, so it's okay.
Helen demographically targeted you when you were a hairless boy.
Well, I can't comment on his hair.
Elliot says, Olliellie answer me this what was the first band t-shirt ever produced this is actually a really hard question to answer when was the first t-shirt produced i wonder
exactly went from underwear to outerwear well so t-shirts have been around for 100 years but
they weren't really properly popularized when i say it's obvious 50s yes right
brando streetcar right so that was everyone saw that and they were like huh you could look hot
in a t-shirt even though actually i've read that brando only wore a t-shirt when he was playing
stanley in a streetcar named desire because he spilled egg on his shirt no you know he was all
about building up the um subtext of the character of course and it was because you know, he was all about building up the subtext of the character. Of course.
And it was because, you know, there's a lot of stuff in Tennessee Williams
about how Stanley's character, he comes in carrying a big bag of meat,
doesn't he? Symbolism at the beginning of the play.
What can that possibly be?
And so he was supposed to represent his kind of brute physicality.
So you could see his muscles, yeah.
So that was the point.
Yeah, but it had a big Mickey Mouse on it,
which rather diffused the masculinity.
Well, this is the thing.
So it became a big fashion statement, and the point is, at what point did T-shirts start having big Mickey Mouse on it, which rather diffused the masculinity. Well, this is the thing. So it became a big fashion statement,
and the point is, at what point did T-shirts
start having big Mickey Mouse on them?
And people seem agreed that it was sometime in the 60s,
but it's hard to say who did it first.
Yeah, when did merch become a particular thing?
Hard to say.
Retrospectively, you can say Kiss is the biggest band
to have merched the hell out of their brand.
Yeah, they had, like, action figures and masks
and a whole lot of...
They have coffins. Board games. Coffins? Yeah board games they have pinball machines they have condoms with kiss
on them jls have got condoms coffins can only be the next step for them i'll have the pink one
because ashton's my fave i want to die in a marvin um so anyway it's very hard to find a definite
answer on this because there was a movement It was a counter-cultural movement of youth
and it wasn't that people were writing about it at the time
saying, hey, we did this first
because that wouldn't have been cool.
It was probably more incremental than that, wasn't it?
But as far as I can make out,
it's a bit like me talking about I Love Lucy
in the last episode.
No one knows for certain,
but I think the band that did it properly
in terms of they did it and then more people did it
is the Grateful Dead.
Oh.
Because Grateful Dead would have been mid 60s
yeah which quite early so that's before rolling stones lips merch for example right and it was
t-shirts rather than caftans t-shirts and what it meant basically was i smoke joints so it was
really part of the countercultural movement so there was loads of them printed so i think great
there was a bit there's a big um acid thing with the grateful dead of everyone getting together
and taking acid and like tuning into a collective consciousness yeah well the same with love right yeah but that as far as i can work out actually was people in the 70s
reprinting psychedelic t-shirts from the 60s and not actually that love particularly printed loads
and sold them at their gigs or anything because that wouldn't have been cool to do in the 60s
whereas the grateful dead did sell them as a signifier you were interested in drugs i can't
imagine um a 60s band going we really need to merchandise our brand a bit harder exactly yeah
but but if the beatles had done ringtones in the 60s how cool, we really need to merchandise our brand a bit harder. Exactly, yeah. But, but, if the Beatles had done ringtones
in the 60s, how cool would that be? Imagine Landline
ringtones. Oh, wow.
I need somebody. Sorry, I've just got to get the phone.
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Sean from Leicester says, Helen, answer me this.
In mythology, why do
dragons prefer to eat virgins
as opposed to other women?
Is the hymen that tasty?
There's really no way of knowing unless we ask a dragon.
There's a shortage of dragons now.
Maybe that's because there's a shortage of dragons food
because people are sexually active earlier.
No, I think there's a shortage of dragons
because dragons make all films worse when they come.
Apart from in Shrek, that's quite a cool dragon,
but that's a subversive dragon that's taking the piss out of dragons, isn't it?
Harry Potter 4, though, are okay.
Oh, they never impressed me, a dragon. I i mean i guess the point is to a dragon the world is his oyster
isn't he's a big scary fire breathing monster he can ask for whatever he wants so why wouldn't you
ask for a virgin you'd rather eat a spring chicken wouldn't you than a ropey old hen i think dragons
have sensitive palates and uh they want you know lovely tender untainted meat i think it's about
age actually i think that comes into it as well typically virgins will be younger well they're and they want lovely, tender, untainted meat. I think it's about age, actually.
I think that comes into it as well.
Typically, virgins will be younger.
They're not asking for Susan Boyle, are they?
They're not asking for Anne Widdicombe.
They're asking for...
The 17-year-old.
Yeah.
A Jonas brother.
I think it's partly because virgins were...
At the time that dragons were peaking,
they were a common sacrificial victim.
And I suppose because there was a kind of sacred thing about them
because they were pure. So actually,
contrary to my theory, the dragon was just saying
don't make any bother over me, mate.
If you've got a virgin you're going to sacrifice anyway, just give
that one to me.
Here's a question
that I think will definitively
place this episode
in summer of 2014. Consider this
a time capsule
if you're listening in the future.
It's from Katie from St Ives in Cambridge,
not Cornwall,
who says,
I'm a primary school teacher
and in the past few weeks,
loom bands have taken over.
Boys and girls are wearing them
from foundation stage to year six.
I've been given several by my children.
So, Ollie, answer me this.
Where did this loom band craze come from?
Aren't they just sort of like friendship bands?
No.
They're basically like little colourful rubber bands
that you can weave into various different concoctions.
But a friendship band is woven, so it's...
It's the act of creation, Martin.
The loom bands are the constituents to a thing you might wear.
The Rainbow Loom was invented in 2011 by Chiang Chong Ng.
Ng? Well, NG, you know that Chinese
surname. Is that how it's pronounced? Well, actually
I worked with a girl called Sue NG and she used to
say her name was NG but I think that was because people couldn't say
how you say it in Chinese.
I used to work with someone called Diane NG
and she used to pronounce it Eng.
Eng, okay. I saw it with Jane NG
and she was at Ng, I think. It's not the important part of the story.
He was born in Malaysia. I think he was in Michigan the important part of the story. He was born in Malaysia.
I think he was in Michigan, though.
And it was his daughters who sort of invented it.
So he didn't invent it.
He purloined it and mass marketed it.
No, he noticed that they were weaving bracelets out of elastic bands with their hands.
Because you can just do it with your hands.
Oh, of course.
So many gadgets you can do with your hands, but people don't.
And Fleshlight, for example.
And he invented a loom because he wanted to join in.
He wanted to weave some bracelets with them.
And his hands, his big man hands, were too big to join in.
Now, is that the point where the children don't want to do it anymore?
They're like, oh, Dad's doing it now.
Dad's built a loom.
Yeah.
I know.
He's like, hey, girls, can I play loom bands with you?
And they're like, we're on Barbies now, sorry.
It must have seemed really talky uh but anyway he did it and uh you know it took off in his
local school in michigan and it was one of these things that he then he then thought right this
there's obviously mileage in this i'm gonna i'm gonna become a toy entrepreneur in that very
american way yeah and he put like ten thousand dollars of his own money into a company sold it
to his own local independent toy store so So it's quite nice in a way,
because the story is one of a proper, like,
roots-up ground entrepreneur
was not a big toy corporation that came up with this.
But presumably he sold it
and then never made any of the money
of all the loom bands that there are now.
Well, I don't know what the deals are,
but I know that it's not really properly copyrighted
because, yeah, it's a loom, isn't it?
Elastic bands and paints, isn't it?
Yes, elastic bands have been around for a while.
What's that? Specifically, 1845 it? Elastic bands and pegs, isn't it? Yes, elastic bands have been around for a while. I've heard.
Specifically 1845, the first patent for an elastic band.
Really?
Yeah.
And obviously the idea of turning them into catapults, bouncy balls.
You know, kids have been using elastic bands as a tool.
Very creatively.
Very long time.
I mean, it's sort of like finger knitting, but with elastic bands.
And that's been around an awfully long time.
I do think it's kind of brilliant though that there is this massive trend
involving something as old world sounding as a loom.
It's like if Conkers or Yo-Yos came back in a big way.
And no electronics at all.
You know, it's a gadget that involves
no under the bonnet computer power.
No touchscreen, nothing.
But I would have thought that this is a very easy idea
to knock off so there's not that much money in it.
Well, yes, although there's very high profit margins that said i mean it's elastic bands because it's elastic
bands i think they sell them for like a thousand for a pound but even say that's still high profit
they've got them in our corner shop they're even advertising the fact with a handwritten notice
on the door here's another question from katie who says helen answer me this how do you learn
to pole vault and i think we can interpret from this she means how does one learn to pole vault yeah do you just have a go or do you start with a shorter pole
and progress to a longer one it all looks rather scary and probably more complicated than that run
stick pole in ground jump twist and fall that is essentially what it is but but usually a pole
vaulter will have already shown ability in the long jump because that has the most similar takeoff technique.
Or they'll be a good sprinter, but not fast enough to win sprinting events.
And so if they've also got good upper body strength,
then they'll be encouraged to start by practising using the long jump sandpit for a soft landing.
Well, actually, believe it or not, I've done the pole vault.
No way! What?
My school wasn't traditionalist in terms of the sports it made us do.
Wow!
So we did have to do football and rugby and cricket,
but actually they were quite cool about letting us try things like trampolining and running.
And yeah, we had pole vault kit and I did it in sixth form.
It was fine.
No training at all.
No one told me how to do it.
I just did it.
Did you do the proper body flip over the thing?
Yeah.
So what you do is you practice first exactly by doing the high jump yeah and then
you do it with a pole i mean it wasn't really any more complicated than that probably really
dangerous and they wouldn't let you do it now but uh yeah but the ancient greeks and the celts used
to do it in order to cross marshes and fens as a mode of transport wow that's wicked yeah what
about on the other side though if it was lower or i mean if you lost your pole or how do you get back
well climb a tree
and scream just uh just pick up a stick on the other side well you could leave your pole on that
side chain it up to a fence yeah okay someone nicks it yeah well i would assume you would use
sticks that were there and get from lump of semi-solid earth to the next one sort of like
big stilts you know what i've never heard of anyone jumping a fence like you know
when people used to jump the fence at glastonbury using a pole but it would be a sensible way of
doing it would i mean you'd have to be pretty good especially at glastonbury because you would
land on a load of drunks soft landing yeah what's interesting is that we're all so incredibly
resolutely unsportive and yet podcast keeps proving that we're somewhat popular with the
sportive because just the other day there was a piece in the guardian uh from ultra runner rory
basio talking about how she listens to us when she's ultra running and ultra running is where
you just keep running for hundreds of miles until you take off into space and she listens to us
while she's training it was one of those articles where they say like what are your influences what
how do you train and then what do you listen like, what are your influences? How do you train?
And then what do you listen to?
What music do you listen to?
How do you distract yourself from the extreme physical pain?
And she answered, I don't listen to music.
I listen to a podcast called Answer Me This.
I'd need something like, you know, full on,
like Eye of the Tiger on constant repeat to feel motivated.
But if you're the kind of person that's so motivated that you do indeed keep running till the land runs out,
maybe you almost need something that kind of chills you out.
Yeah, you've got to pace yourself.
If you're running for 100 miles or whatever. Exactly. There've got to pace yourself if you're running for 100 miles.
Exactly. There's got to be something that's like, this conversation's going to
go on endlessly.
Will this never stop? Then it turns out
quite a few of our listeners are ultra runners.
Really? I wonder if there's anyone who listens to us
in waterproof headphones while swimming.
Maybe we should have an Answer Me This Olympiad
for all the people that do sporty
things whilst listening to us.
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i am someone who is squarely in the cupboard camp you may wonder what that is you're going to find
out but ollie answered me this once and for all should ketchup be kept in the fridge or in the
cupboard no option for both what decant it and keep it in both Like an experiment Well I think the official advice
On the bottle from Heinz
Which is after all I believe
I know I say Heinz now rather than Heinz
Heinz I believe account for 85% of ketchup sales
In the UK
Their advice is canonical
Their advice exactly
Keep it in the cupboard and then once opened refrigerate
So I mean both
But that's a precaution because They admit themselves in their faq because of its natural
acidity heinz ketchup is shelf stable however its stability after opening can be affected by
storage conditions we recommend that this product be refrigerated to maintain the best quality that's
just hedging their bets though isn't it just in case someone lives in a very hot unhygienic
shit hole put it in the fridge. But it's fine.
And actually, there is an element,
I mean, this sounds wrong,
but there is an element of healthy bacteria,
I believe, I have no scientific basis for this,
where if it's left to mature slightly in a couple of weeks,
it can taste a bit better.
Sometimes.
Things like that with long life,
like with vinegar in them,
can taste a bit better when they've been left out.
I don't know why that is.
That's probably chemical,
that's probably the vinegar maybe oxidising a bit more yeah but also cold things uh harder to taste
so you would have to bring it to room temperature before using it anyway uh but also vinegar and
sugar are preservatives there's barely another organic ingredient in there and the recipe of
course goes back centuries doesn't it so in the early 1800s, when they first invented ketchup, there was no fridge.
No, it was to have a way of...
A pickled product that you'd keep for years.
So yeah, the original, the first printed recipe in English
was from 1805.
Yep.
And they say you make five bottles
and you keep them for three years.
I actually made a recipe on Valentine's Day this year
that involved using half a bottle of ketchup.
Wow, what were you making?
A really horrible tomato soup? You're just the worst boyfriend in the world are you making a big heart on the wall
it was uh jamie's mountain meatballs is what it was and no they're really really good they're
just meatballs basically but the sauce is made of um you it sounds disgusting it does sound
disgusting it's a load of ketchup with coffee and a bit of mustard and what else
was in there sugar there's already sugar in the ketchup yeah but it was really good okay very
tangy it's kind of like very um southern tasting yeah it's sort of like being sandblasted in the
taste buds so you don't even notice what you're eating it was good i promise okay here's a
question from jill who says while navigating the minefield that is preparing to take my children on holiday,
including getting them their own passports,
I think it makes sense to have photos of a child on a passport.
It was always an anomaly that you didn't.
But a baby.
I think that's it.
I've got friends who have got a baby.
Ben and Nikki just had a baby.
They went to Portugal with their baby, like seven months old,
and had to go and get a photo.
I mean, you could have just cut it out of a frame in Snappy Snaps
and put it in your passport.
They all look the same.
My passport's 10 years old.
When I went through customs for the first time,
they really started to peer at me as if to say,
is that actually you?
Yeah, because in Martin's passport picture,
he's got short hair, he's got no beard,
and he has the worried expression of, say,
a young political seditionary which is not martin's
look now now he's bumbling i had damn it with a lot of fur you'd think you'd be able to connect
the two and say yes look at this young awkward activist he'd obviously he'd obviously settle
look what he'd obviously become in 10 years jill continues uh helen answered me this when did
people start using passports i can't imagine that my ancestors lined up in the pharmacy
to get their picture taken during the great famine of the 1840s
before setting sail.
So how official or reliable was travel documentation
before photographic ID?
I think this is a question framed from somebody
who's never been alive without photography.
Of course, before photography existed,
things wouldn't be reliant on photography, would they?
True.
I like the idea of having an artist's impression of you, though,
as your passport photo.
Then all the royals,
everyone would have their hand on a greyhound, wouldn't they?
And a ruff.
I see you're not travelling with your greyhound today, sir.
Step aside.
As previously discussed, the Queen doesn't have a passport,
so that's an exemption anyway.
They'd know if you were pretending to be a royal
that you weren't a proper royal.
So most people attribute the appearance of the passport
to the era of Henry V. There was
an Act of Parliament in 1414
requiring people a safe conduct
document and
these had to be issued by the king but he could
give them to anyone whether or not they were English and
foreign nationals didn't even have to pay
whereas subjects did have to pay.
What is that like? That's interesting.
Topsy-turvy. But actually there's still a trace of that
kind of language, isn't there,
on the front page of the passport?
You know when you're bored on a flight and you've got nothing else to look at?
You've read the in-flight magazine.
I've always got a book with me, Ollie.
What do you take me for?
Obviously, I just don't think ahead.
Of course, if I was flying BA,
I'd be listening to Answer Me This on the Comedy Podcast channel.
I'll never be bored.
Big shout-out to you BA guys.
How's it doing up there?
But, you know, sometimes you're on the flight, you're bored,
and you find yourself reading your passport.
A bit like when you find yourself reading the shampoo bottle on the bog
and you've read all the magazines.
Desperate.
Desperate.
Retreat your imagination a little bit.
What is sodium lauryl sulfate?
There is still this legalistic thing written in beautiful script
on a British passport.
Illegible script.
Illegible script, but it kind of says something like,
this hereby entitles the recipient to full protection
under the queen's auspices abroad and it's actually it's actually quite emotional reading
it i think it's like that your rights as a british citizen like going to any uh what's the word i'm
looking for any corner of the empire once shaded pink yeah but yeah but exactly but and to receive
an ambassadorial support if you need it. That's all inscribed on your passport document,
which I imagine is something that's been there for centuries
in some form or another.
Do you know what almost did for the passport, though?
The development of the railway system across Europe
because there were so many borders,
because a lot of the countries hadn't unified by then,
that it was just too much of a pain to check passports.
And so they stopped issuing them
and then they came back with a vengeance
during the First World War.
And that is when you needed a photo.
The word passport, that was first used from at least 1540.
That means passing through the door or something, does it?
Yeah, passing through a gate.
Yeah, exactly.
Which I suppose must be part of the reason why they kept the name for airport.
It was established not only that port was a port,
but people had passports and you were going to use a passport
at an airport. It's a place of transition
and also a beautiful bottle full of tasty alcohol
Have you ever bought a bottle of port at a port?
No. I have. In Portugal
Okay
I was at Portugal airport
and I bought a bottle of port. Well congratulations
you're the portiest one here. I only did it because it was
so meta. Here's a question about something you might do
on holiday from, who says,
Olly, answer me this.
Why is it that when you sunbathe au naturel,
that one's todger never gets sunburnt?
I mean, one would have thought you would have to smother it in oil.
Richard, you're lucky, basically.
That's the answer.
Really?
It's got an unburnable todger.
No, no, no.
He's just been lucky not to have been burned on his todger.
Your todger is no less burnable than any other part of you.
I would have thought that the skin on there would be more burnable
because it's so rarely exposed to sun in the average Brit.
Yeah.
Anyway, yes, your penis can get burned.
Testes.
Particularly if you're circumcised,
obviously the head of your penis more at risk.
Oh, God.
So if you are going to sunbathe for a long time in direct sunlight,
yes, you should oil it up.
Or put a little parasol over it.
Like a cocktail umbrella. Now, the disadvantage, in direct sunlight, yes, you should oil it up. Or put a little parasol over it. Like a cocktail umbrella.
Now, the disadvantage, in a way,
if you consider this a disadvantage to the nation as a whole,
is that you can't really sunbathe nude here
because you live in an area, you know, a very, very pretty public park.
Oh, you mean we can't sunbathe nude?
Yes, but you don't really have your own garden space.
I don't sunbathe.
So why would I sunbathe nude?
Sure, so you wouldn't be able to choose to anyway.
No.
But I've been partial to it in the
past have you yeah in my parents garden i do oh when they're not in when they're not in do they
have neighbors that can overlook no and for that reason that's why i have in the past although once
i did do it and then the gardener came in to do something in the patio he started screaming i went
running into the house very quickly indeed um but uh in my new garden in my new house which i do
love but this is a fault with it there is nowhere in that garden that isn't overlooked by a small child so i'm just
even when i'm shirtless i feel a bit like i shouldn't be there's not a part of my garden
that isn't overseen apart from there's like a trench next to the garden shed yeah which is
lying in mud but then if i did lie there in the mud next to the garden shed where I think the cat craps,
if I wanted to lie naked there,
you're not viewed by children from the houses adjacent but you are potentially viewed by the public footpath next to the house.
So someone walking the dog again...
If someone were to find you, that looks much worse than...
It looks worse.
Just some bathing in your bath.
Why am I in the mud next to the garden shed?
Why are you on a trench of cat shit?
Maybe they thought you died.
Exactly.
Maybe, is there some kind of structure
that you could put up?
Almost like one of those beach changing huts
but without a roof that you could lie in.
Perhaps.
I just think some of the relaxing vibe
of being naked in your own garden
would be ruined by having to erect a wall.
It'd be a bit like you're in a cocaine, wouldn't it?
It would be a bit like you're in Berlin in 1989.
I don't think it would be that relaxing.
Could you go up on the roof?
It's slanted.
Yeah, what about on the peak?
Yes, theoretically I could.
I think it's not worth it just to be naked,
and then I'd be a mascot for the whole village to see.
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They did still have a pool
But it was full of kids
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Ferris has written to us
I wonder if he's having a big day off
From Lebanon
He says
Earlier this year I gave my friend a bit of advice about the stock market I wonder if he's having a big day off from Lebanon had made off my advice well you should have said when you were
giving the advice here's my advice and my cut is this amount yeah but you'd be a dick if you'd say
that wouldn't you not really especially if it was a small percentage like five percent i don't think
that's too much well to ask for hold that thought uh privately he says my reaction always was how
about giving me a cut of your profits but I didn't say
anything like that
to him
that's what I'm saying
do it in advance
rather than afterwards
if you're going to do it
do it in advance
but you can't offer advice
and then say
by the way
I charge a commission
on my advice
next time
think ahead
I mean I've got advice
you know
go and build a rival
to the Walt Disney Studios
right I want 5%
if you do it
I mean it's not the same
is it
or I'll foot 5%
of the loss
if a loss happens
he and I haven't talked about his offer in months% if you do it. I mean, it's not the same, is it? Or I'll foot 5% of the loss if a loss happens. He and I haven't talked about his offer in months.
Probably because you ignored it.
Recently, though, continues Ferris,
I realised I probably made a mistake.
My friend was genuinely grateful
and he certainly wasn't obligated to offer me a free dinner
at a nice restaurant.
And it's a restaurant my wife and I can't normally afford.
So selfishly, I now kind of like the idea of going there
and have someone else foot the bill.
It's not that selfish.
It's a bit selfish.
It's probably not shellfish, though, in Lebanon.
My friend and I still talk regularly and are on good terms.
Nice, even though you're stewing away on this.
Yeah, and you'd never offer him financial advice again,
in case he becomes successful, the prick.
So, Helen, answer me me this should i tell my friend
i'll take him up on his offer or is it now too late given that several months have now passed
since he made it would it be poor form to say out of the blue hey remember when you said you'd buy
us dinner we'd like to do that now if the offer is still on the table i think that is rather
difficult especially given the diffidence that you displayed when the offer was initially made
and maybe your friend thought well better not offer that to Ferris again because he might be insulted.
But maybe the way to do it is saying, oh, we never did go to that restaurant.
Tell your friend, would you and your partner come with us?
We could have an evening out all together.
That suggests splitting the bill, Helen.
He's very, very keen on the point that his friend is paying.
But at that point, his friend might just say, oh, of course, we'll pay.
Might's no good, is it? You can't bank on might.
You're hoping to pick him up on an
offer to take you to an expensive restaurant.
Well then I think the offer is passed.
Well I think what you might say
this is very
devious. Oh no it's not going to be one of your
Olly Mann grifter things again that
you seem to be coming up with a lot this year.
Disabled pensioner.
You and your wife creep out of the toilet window.
What you say is,
because you so kindly offered to take me
to insert name of posh restaurant,
we'd love to take you and your partner out for dinner as well.
Come with us on Saturday.
We're going to insert name of mid-market restaurant.
Now, you do have to shell out a little bit for this,
but you've then planted in his mind the idea
that this is already reciprocating for something that didn't happen.
And then he'll surely say, and we never did do that thing.
You don't need to say it yourself.
I think that's rubbish.
I think that's worse than my suggestion.
I think what you could do is say,
oh, it's my wife's birthday coming up soon,
or we've got a big anniversary coming up.
I'd love to take her to that place that you mentioned.
And the guy might be like, oh yeah, sorry.
Yeah, I never did send you to that place.
Unless he's already spent all the money that he earned. The thing is, if you're having the guy might be like oh yeah sorry yeah i never did you send you to that place unless he's already spent all the money that he earned the thing is if you're having the kind
of conversation where you're offering financial advice and you're good friends anyway yeah i could
say to my in fact i did say to my friend ben who is taking me out for dinner in two weeks time i
did say you never took me out for my birthday you were going to and now he is and that was fine he
was like oh shit yeah i forgot about that so that's fine i mean if you're good friends it's not actually
that big a deal is it or you could just book in for that restaurant and say to your friend,
oh, I've booked in for our special dinner
that you very generously said you'd bought me for Saturday.
And your friend is then obligated to go, yes.
Well, I'll give you my credit card numbers.
That's actually not so bad an idea.
It's adequate.
But listeners, have you got a good idea
that means Ferris will finally get his meal?
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