Anything Better? - NFL Picks & Preview | Championships

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 is championship week. What's up everybody? Welcome back to the anything better podcast NFL edition for championship week. I'm Paul Verzi that's Bill Burr. We got Andrew Thamless over there. We have of course we have Jake the Snake in an undisclosed location with our injury report. And we are going- Ask the people where he is, the ladies will find him. Still knock his door down. Dude, the Buffalo Bills beat the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:00:41 The Rams, dude, the Rams, I thought they were going down and gonna win that game. And when they, when Stafford threw it out of bounds, I was like, what are you gonna do? Great games though. Both of the games were good. Yeah, and I think they made too much of a thing about the Ravens messing up. They weren't giving the Bills defense enough credit. I mean, okay, that kid dropped the ball in the end, but
Starting point is 00:01:03 they were punching the ball out, stripping and doing all kinds of stuff. They were forcing turnovers. So, you know, we'll see. I had, I thought they were all good games other than like the Casey game. I literally had to shut it off, dude. The amount of just frost promotion that was going on. Yeah. So here's my theory. So they cut to Taylor Swift, and she's with some big female athlete. Yeah, Caitlin Clark. All right, well, here's the deal. There's a conspiracy theory on the internet that feminism, as far as the part of feminism
Starting point is 00:01:36 where to get women in the workforce, was done by the people that own the banks because they could only tax half the population. So they kind of start, hey, you should get out there and work, right? So my conspiracy theory is big pharmaceuticals upset because only half the population gets CTE. So now they want to start promoting female sports. I mean, dude, the level of like how far in the background I felt the game was. And listen, you'd watch your Lakers game, they would cut to Diane Cannon or Jack Nicholson. But like the level that they have to do it so Swifties keep watching.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I just felt I was just like, you know, the Chiefs are trying to three peak is way bigger than me looking at this musician and her re, oh, it was a good play. Of course she likes it. Yeah. She's dating the tight end. I get it. How many fucking times?
Starting point is 00:02:33 Oh, and she's with Caitlin Clark and Caitlin Clark, they just fucking thought of that. And Caitlin's holding a can of Pepsi and Pepsi, but blah, blah, blah. It's just like, what the fuck are we doing here? Well, I got something for you, Bill. Your buddy Paulie over here in New York, I'm putting my money where my mouth is.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I think Josh Allen and the Bills overcome the Chiefs, overcome Taylor Swift, and overcome the officials and beat them this week. Dude, listen, is that AI or players really saying, at least former players are going like,, man. This is ridiculous and like Troy Aikman going. This is ridiculous No, not a I gotta be honest you as a Patriots fan. I'm getting tired. Oh, they're the new Patriots We never got the red carpet like that and also it's you're forgetting to flake gate Dude, why do you know fucking hated us to the point?
Starting point is 00:03:24 He upheld the investigation of the independent investigation of the owner of the losing team. And then we beat him in court because it was such bullshit and they found a loophole to still suspend our Patrick Mahomes for six games. When that fucking happens, dude, then you can say you're the new fucking Patriots. That guy hated us. Hated us. Brady never got these calls. The only guy that I saw kind of have his way with officials like this was Jordan in like that
Starting point is 00:03:52 heyday that three year. But this is dude. X players are saying it. Analysts are saying it mad dog Chris Russo was going like do it like you he goes I can't take it anymore. I can't I can't even watch him. I can't, I can't even watch him. I can't watch him. And here's what sucks. The wrestling, the officials did a great job all year except like, except for them, which sucks because they're like on their game. But dude, I think Josh Allen and the Bills are going to beat them.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I think they're better. I called it. It's the only storyline they had. Like they, they, these sports and I'm not shitting on the NFL, all of these, NHL doesn't do it at all because they've always just been a wild card, but the NBA has storylines, football has storylines, baseball has storylines, and that's what, storylines is what keeps people come back, the soap opera of the thing, and they protect that thing at all fucking costs, especially if you only have one.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Because if you take away Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, Patrick Mahomes, can the Chiefs repeat? If you take that away, it's a really weird time in the NFL right now. Where there's always like, who do you like better, Brady or Peyton, Manning? Who do you like better, fucking who was it back in the, the Cowboys 49ers rivalry or Elway or Montana. They've always had that I keep saying this every week but like it's getting so fucking overt and then people are trying to be like like dragging the Patriots into that shit
Starting point is 00:05:14 is so fucking ridiculous. It's like the NFL was against us. That's how much they fucking hated us. Hey, I got a question for you. If Travis Kelce was dating a dog show, but she was up there in the booth with the show. If she moved tickets? If she moved tickets, 100%. If it was Lizzo? Lizzo Orosa? If it was somebody that was annoying,
Starting point is 00:05:43 everybody would watch just to hate if the person was annoying. Don't ever forget, Paul, if they're annoying. It is annoying, Paul, and I have to be honest with you. Sports on two levels was an escape for men. It was an escape from the news, the reality of your job and the pressure of having to support your family. And it was also an escape. You got away from the woman in your life. You hung out with the fellas, you fucking said whatever and you had a good fucking time and that shit is over. Sports are now like, you know, they just, they bring everything. They got the fucking military flying over, you know, and that's money. The NFL doesn't support the troops. They make money off of everything. They got the fucking military flying over, you know, and that's money.
Starting point is 00:06:25 The NFL doesn't support the troops. They make money off of them. I'm so sick of them acting like they're aligned with the troops. You get paid every time you show one. Dude, I almost just went off on my wife when you said that. So I was gonna say it's the wife's fault. I'm not gonna go there.
Starting point is 00:06:39 She might hear me. But dude, I will say, I'm gonna do something I normally don't do, Bill. I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. I'm gonna be a contrarian, which you know isn't me. Um, but dude, I will say, I'm going to do something I normally don't do. Bill, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I'm going to be a contrarian, which you know, isn't me. I'm an anti contrarian, but I'm easy. I think he got to give, I think everybody's got to give the chiefs a little credit here, dude, because he finds the open man a lot. And like Kelsey does, no, they're good, man. man they're good more people need to compliment Patrick Mahomes no I'm just saying they're good they are a good team
Starting point is 00:07:10 I'm not saying they're not a good team Paul but I gotta be honest with you it what are we doing they're in the fucking TSA pre-check line going down the field they got clear and pre-check I can I can tell you right now, that fucking flop he did out of bounds, he should have got a three game suspension for that. That was ridiculous. What the fuck was that? We went from Jack Lambert to that? 100% right.
Starting point is 00:07:38 100% right. And it was ridiculous. It was egregious. But I think they're going, Andrew, can we get the lines for the chiefs bills? I gotta see the line here. Oh they they fucking decided this guy was going to be the next guy They did okay, and i'm not saying he's not one of the best if not the best in the league right now But dude, he is he Peyton Manning? The chiefs are two point favorites.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Two point. I hate how that graphic came up and just my point just laid on the ground. Paul, is he Elway? Is he Montana? Is he as good as those guys? Are you saying that he have like some fucking Dan Marino level arm? No. I'm just saying the amount of praise is just fucking insane.
Starting point is 00:08:27 It is. It absolutely is. And Paul, it came early. I remember making fun of it. One of his first Thursday night games just announced, I hope you'll praise me. And I'm going like, this kid's the next kid. They are selling this kid this fucking hard because Brady's leaving and they're done. They don't have anybody else. But to your point about comparing my home to those other quarterbacks, he's already won three super goals. He has more super goals than all those guys.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So it's like, it's hard to judge now. And he could get a fourth this year. I know, but too. They're fucking just letting them go down the field holding players. Yeah, that's the thing. I gotta be honest with you too, I am so sick of that, like, if he gets six championships, does that mean he's as good as Jordan? Michael Jordan who changed the game.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah. And here's the thing, dude, and I hate to keep bringing this up and sounding like a broken record and sounding like sour grapes and people are going to say, Paul, it's cause you bet on the 49ers last year, dude, Nick Bosa would have sacked Patrick Mahomes three times in a row. If he literally wasn't held by both shoulder pads, three plays in a row to the point where everybody on the sidelines was just going like what's going on. But that being said, Oh, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Oh, no, not that being said. Jake the Snake, I'm gonna tell you what, this is manufactured. This is manufactured the way the fucking Lakers were in fucking the 2000s. Oh my God, Jordan's leaving. What do we have? We have no storyline.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And all of a sudden the Lakers, oh my God, Shaq's going there, Kobe's going there, Phil Jackson's going there. of a sudden the Lakers oh my god Shax going there Kobe's going there Phil Jackson's going there none of them were Lakers that was the Charlotte Hornet and Orlando Magic and the coach of the fucking Bulls and they they needed a storyline I'm not saying he wouldn't have won championships or anything but this dude this shit they were in a fucking limousine oh yeah no they are was a, comparing him to the Patriots, there was a stat that Brady got 38 roughing the passer calls in his career. And I think Mahomes also has 38, but Mahomes obviously has played half the years. So I mean, it's
Starting point is 00:10:35 just proof right there. Yeah. And they learned with baseball, what happened to baseball was all the records were like from fucking, you know, and in sideshow, Billy had fucking 400 RBIs and 19 fucking 02, right? And it was like, it was just a game of the past and they needed to update it. So they juiced up the ball, they made the stadium smaller and they looked the other way when these guys got roided up and then all of those records fucking fell.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And I think everybody like was like, we don't wanna be what happened to baseball, be the Nationals pastime and then become the sport nobody gives a fuck about, right? So they get in a panic when there's a changing of the guard, okay? Like when Jordan retires, fuck, who do we got now? We need a story, we need a fucking story.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And you need an interesting story. Okay. And it's just like, so they got, they got all of this shit. They tried to do the thing. You literally saw them trying to make people give a fuck about Patrick Mahomes and his, his relationship. Nobody did. So they dropped that because that and what was, what was the, uh, the, the prototype for that? It was Brady and Giselle. Yeah, Oromo and Jessica Simpson. That happened naturally. The way the Lakers and the Celtics happened naturally in the 80s, and then the NBA's like, oh, that's our bread and butter.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Two teams, a bunch of stars battling each other, and then you went into the age of the super teams. Yeah. Jake, do we have any injuries for commanders Eagles or Bill's chiefs tomorrow? I mean, Sunday? Commanders Eagles, the big one is Jalen hurts. There was a
Starting point is 00:12:16 play where hurts rolled his knee or someone rolled over hurts knee. And you can see that he wasn't the same after that. So we'll see if he recovers in time for this week. But I'm sure I'll be out there. But he definitely looked hobbled towards the end of that game. I think he only played three passes after that. So that's the big storyline. But other than that, I think everyone's going to be a fair point. The big names at least will be out there. My homes Alan, Jane Daniels. Yeah, so anyway. on Jane Daniels. Yeah, so anyway. All right, Bill, I'm gonna give you the first game here. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Commanders are getting six against the Eagles. What's that? I'm gonna take the Eagles and I'll tell you why, because as much as you're seeing, you know, another superstar quarterback with the Commanders, I didn't like how they needed to score 48 points to win the game. They still led up, how many points did they let up?
Starting point is 00:13:12 What was it, high 30s, low 40s or something like that? I'm old school, I still believe you have to have a defense to win a game. And I just think the deeper you're going to the playoffs, I don't know, what was their record this year against each other? It was one and one, but Hertz got injured in the second game or got a concussion in the second game.
Starting point is 00:13:36 So when that happened, the commanders came back and won. I still think, I think everybody's gonna love the, oh, six fucking points, Jesus Christ. All right. I'm just talking money line I think the Eagles win this game six fucking points Yeah, dude, this is tough because you know, I have this bias to say quant thing. I love them It's hard to see him do what he's doing But the commanders are on a run and I really think they're playing with house money I could see the Eagles pulling it off at the end of the field goal, but I love the points I'm going to take the commanders. The commanders are on a run and I really think they're playing with house
Starting point is 00:14:05 money. I could see the Eagles pulling it off at the end of the field goal, but I love the points. I'm going to take the commanders getting six. I've been riding them all year and they've gotten me here. So I'll take the commanders getting six
Starting point is 00:14:19 and um alright. I'll start off Bill's chiefs. That's going to be a surprisingly low scoring game. So it's probably good to take it. I don't think it's going to be a shootout. I think the Eagles are a really, really solid team. And I just don't see... I mean, I'll be honest with you. I don't know what the fuck that game was last week.
Starting point is 00:14:41 The commander scored 28 in the second quarter. The fucking game's over. No, it isn't. They had to do it twice. Yeah, dude, it's Madden now. Dude, the Lions that was I mean, that was my Super Bowl pick. I did not expect that. Um, Jake's been Jake's been calling the Lions frauds all year. He's probably happy that there are 10 point favorites and they lost by what was the two the
Starting point is 00:15:07 the the the the see. Maybe with this fucking she's got four fucking rings. Fuck that shit. I'm I'm curious to see it doing this shit on purpose. Yeah. I have a new king, dude, whether he is the guy or not the guy. And I'm not saying he's I'm gonna be a fucking broken record here. I'm just saying, dude, this is a manufactured. You see, they ride their bicycles, they're pedaling, but they also got a little motor
Starting point is 00:16:05 on it and they're just going up the fucking hill like 30 miles an hour. They got an electric mountain bike. Yeah, they got a little fucking electric motor pushing them up the fucking field. And I'm not the only guy fucking saying it either. Former players are saying it too. So I don't know how long you can sit there going haters. No. And I'm curious to see what the officials do because everybody's saying it this week. Everybody's saying it this week. So you know what they do they need to have that kid from fucking rock and New
Starting point is 00:16:37 Year's Eve. Like he should be the guy commentating the game. Who's the guy with Ryan Seacrest should be announcing the game. And there's Taylor Swift and she's sitting next to fucking whatever, Caitlin Clark and oh my god here comes Beyonce and it's the top two halftime show and Travis Kelce is gonna dance with them. That really is true. I hope you appreciate. That really is true. I hope you appreciate. That really is true. Chiefs games have become the red carpet at the Golden Globes. It's a fucking variety show.
Starting point is 00:17:12 It's not football. I literally shut it off. I feel like I'm watching a movie about football and that they're cutting through the co-star with some shit. All right, well, here's my weird feeling and prediction. I think that the game is going to be a field goal, and I think somebody's gonna mess up and miss, and I think it's gonna be the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I think Josh Allen is gonna do enough to put the Bills in position to win, and I think he takes them out. I'm going with the Buffalo Bills in a, in a, in a, in not a huge upset because it's only two points, but I'm going to take the Buffalo Bills to silence that Red Kingdom over there and Taylor Swift. And I hope, let me just say this. I hope when Josh Allen and the Bills are cheering and jumping around that field, they go to Taylor Swift in that suite
Starting point is 00:18:06 and they show everybody in there looking somber. They better do that. That's my prediction. All right, what I didn't like about your prediction is you said you think Josh Allen is gonna do enough. That sounds like you're picking a game in October. I don't think you, you can't come in and just do one. I don't know, dude. No, I mean enough by getting them to the 30 and kicking a game-winning field goal
Starting point is 00:18:30 against the Chiefs the rats in Spotify Hold it I can just fucking hold you On the final fucking drive. If I just put my hand on your hip and it's past interference, if I can take my helmet off in the end zone and the ref tells me to put it back on
Starting point is 00:18:54 rather than getting an unsportsmanlike, if my defensive coordinator can call timeout, even though that's illegal and the timeout is called, I need Josh Allen to do more than just enough. Valentine's day massacre. It's like 40. Dude, I wish, I wish us four for the show could be together. Chakruti board, all the food and just have the cameras on us watching the chiefs.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Well, I can't eat and watch a Chiefs game. It's that simple. Just have a fucking barf bag. And here's the thing, too. I love the Chiefs with fucking Ben Dawson, Joe Delaney, Rest is Soul, all the way up, Todd Blackledge. I fucking love the goddamn Chiefs. Hank Schramm.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a 64-tash-power trap. I fucking love the Chiefs. The best sideline coach. Oh, dude, Hank Schramm was great. Good. That's a good place. That's The. The. The. The the. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The.
Starting point is 00:19:55 The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. taking the fucking Chiefs. The movie of the week. The movie of the week. I can't wait. They're probably gonna have a movie of the week.
Starting point is 00:20:14 They're probably already shooting it. Called The Three Peaks. And that kid who used to host The Daily Show is gonna fucking be Patrick Mahal. Part of me thinks you're right, but I'm just going with the better team. I think that I don't know, dude. Oh, Trevor, what's his face is gonna play Patrick Mahomes. Trevor Noah. They're already shooting it, Paul.
Starting point is 00:20:41 That's how fixed it is. They already know it's called the three Pete. the the lately. I feel like she's kind of like, all right, I made my money. You know what I mean? I don't know what this business is anymore. It's like two streaming services that aren't buying anything. We'll just sort of leave it at that. Oh, dude, I can't, Bill, I can't, I wish I could be a fly on the wall at your house when they call a flag against the Bills? Oh, I'm not watching it. I realized last week the NFL was playing me as a sucker going, they're like, I know the Bill Burr sports fan hates that we keep cutting to fucking Madonna, right? But fucking Taylor Swift right but he is too invested in watching
Starting point is 00:22:09 NFL games it's still a playoff game he will stay and watch this we are betting yeah we are betting that we can keep all of this stupid shit going on and all of this cross promotion and all of this shit he's gonna keep watching it dude I just I had to shut it off I had to shut it off because it made me sad because that if you think this is gonna be the last time they do this I think this is their new business model that they're gonna prop up a team even when they're not the team I'm not saying they shouldn't have won one or two of them or whatever but dude that shit last year was a fucking gift. The year before was worse, in my opinion, when they beat the Bengals on a Tiki-Tac call. Oh, dude, the Bengals had them and then that out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah. And then the Eagles game, the holding call that was a phantom holding call at the end, won in that game. So I think that was the worst one. That's like honorary degree championships. 100%. That was their O2 Lakers run, 22 run. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Beating the Sacramento Kings. So, I mean, I don't know, dude, like
Starting point is 00:23:14 I've just been I've been watching college basketball. I'm watching the Kansas Jayhawks. It still looks like poop to me. I'm done with the NBA. That looks like a fucking shoot around. It's it. And I'm not going out like a gentleman either. I'm shitting the NBA that looks like a fucking shoot around. It's it.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And I'm not going out like a gentleman either. I'm shitting on all the leagues. See, but this is what upsets me because everything was good this year except the Chiefs. The Chiefs ruined. It was a good year. Teams like the commanders with a young quarterback, good officiating, and they do this. That's a fair point. That's a fair point. Everything was good except this fucking team. God I want them to watch. And I like them. Look at look at look at look at you. You're
Starting point is 00:23:54 like, Oh God, I want that's what that's what they're hoping for. It's making you fucking hate them. So you sit down and watch. Don't fucking watch. Don't watch and buy the jersey of that kid on fucking buy a bunch of Josh Allen jerseys this week. Do Josh Allen make the NFL think oh that's where the money is because that's all they care about. You saw it was CTE they look the other fucking way and then when they had to pay the players with the miserable final third of their fucking lives with him 700 bucks each. Look, there's a reason why I fucking beat the book four years in a row. Okay, because I'm one of the best there is. Okay. Now
Starting point is 00:24:33 let me say this. Okay. I was doing an Instagram live and somebody goes over so you don't know I go I'm better than you at this. Here's the deal. Somebody is still questioning you. Oh, dude, somebody's you know, very few but here's the deal. Somebody is still questioning you. Oh, dude, some of these, you know, very few, but here's the deal. Josh Allen is on another level. Their running game with James Cook is great. Their defense is not bad. One little thing that they don't have that I think the edge goes a little bit. Yes, the
Starting point is 00:24:59 officiating crew and receivers. But dude, I think the bills can go in there and control the clock with the running game. And Josh Allen is just not a guy knock on wood to make big mistakes in a big game. He just isn't. And Josh Allen is MVP candidate this year. Patrick Mahomes is not. Josh Allen is having a better year as a quarterback this year.
Starting point is 00:25:20 The Buffalo Bills are only a two point favorite because the officiating. They're a better team. You're describing the Bills going every good Bills team that went in and lost the playoff game. They're always this guy. There's no reason why Charlie Brown one time doesn't kick the fucking ball. You know what I mean? There's no reason for that. Yet, it doesn't fucking happen with them. You know what I mean? There's no reason for that yet. It doesn't fucking happen with that. You know what?
Starting point is 00:25:47 Marv Levy is 99 years old. The great Marv Levy who took those bills teams. And I gotta be honest, that means those losses never took years off his life, thank God. Right? Guy's gonna hit a hundred. He was too nice to win one. He was a wholesome guy. He helped out the community. He went home to his wife. These are not the things
Starting point is 00:26:18 This is not how you win in a capitalist society. No, I'm kidding. Um, that's hilarious. Be like, yeah, dude Never cheated on his wife. They're done He has morals. It's over. If a guy gets concussed he actually sits him down because he's thinking about the quality of the rest of his life. Dude he was there for his kids. No way they win. All right okay now who are the chiefs playing in this made for TV movie? You're saying they're going to be playing the commanders. Um, no, no, I don't know if the commanders are going to win. I like the six points. I could see the Eagles winning by a field goal.
Starting point is 00:26:56 The commander's keeping it close. Um, I think in a perfect world, the two cameo. What's that? Does what? That's the long do a cameo.'s that man does what the Stallone do a cameo. Oh, 100% Stallone wouldn't I feel like Stallone wouldn't still do a rocky reference.
Starting point is 00:27:16 No, the rock would the rock would do a cameo not sly sly once. It's when when rocky wins is that not one of the greatest scores of any music ever? Dude, I'll be honest with you. When Adrian was in the hospital in two and he's sitting there and Mickey's got his head down and she goes, come here, I want to tell you something. And he goes, what? She goes, and she goes, when?
Starting point is 00:27:39 And then all of a sudden you hear the bell go off? Dude almost cried dude I almost lost it I I dude when that music and then and then Mickey goes what are we waiting for I'm like dude I can't handle this like a bearded eight-year-old Paul Bursey remember that little kid working out to the music no was that John Williams did I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Bill Conti. Huh? Bill Conti. No, you know what scene in Rocky isn't talked about enough and it's funny and touching in a weird way is when he went to the priest and he honks his horn,
Starting point is 00:28:52 he goes, yo father, father, and he just goes the way he described, he's like, you know, a fight, I was wondering, you know, if you'd give me a little prayer, he just like, ah, Rocky, he does the whole thing, all right, thanks father, and just leaves. That was so great, man. It was so great.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I loved it. I loved it. Hey, remember when your people used to think you could trust a priest? Well, that's why he did it from the window. And now we had a little weird interaction a couple of decades ago. I was wondering if you could maybe try to even it out
Starting point is 00:29:22 with a little, oh, yeah, hey, call the cops. Yo, father, forget the past, a couple years ago. goes, what are the five you could maybe try to even it out with a little prior. Your father forget the past a couple of years. Just wondering. That's hilarious. Um, I'm sorry. Nah, he was Italian. He wouldn't have the priest was Italian. Vatican is in Italy.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I know it's considered a sovereign state, but Paul, it's sitting right there. It's surrounded by Italians and the thing behind in Italy. I know it's considered a sovereign state, but Paul, it's sitting right there. It's surrounded by Italians and the things behind that wall, Paul. You know, what can you do but hope for the best. What can you do? You can turn the fucking police cops. You don't send them to a new place. That's true. That's true. Then around the league like Jeff George. That's my oh my go-to reference always Jeff So bill you have the Chiefs and the Eagles in the Super Bowl, yeah Yeah, there's only one football game next week. All right
Starting point is 00:30:18 The other one there they're shooting for you know, stop footage for when Trevor Noah Plays Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs three peak. It's already been greenlit. Dude, did the Washington Redskins with Mark Rippon play? Were they one of the four teams that beat the Bills in a Super Bowl? Second year. That was the Second year was Mark Rippon. And that was the great Joe Gibbs, who won three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:30:47 No one's ever done that. Joe Theismann, Doug Williams, Mark Griffin. What if we get a Washington Buffalo, another Super Bowl? It's right there in front of them. That'd be amazing for the NFL, I think. That's not the only thing in front of them. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Big bag of cash. Oh my God, my Chiefs jersey just came. Did you see that? That was one of the best things. He goes, Oh, my new Chiefs jersey. It was an officiating thing. He went like this too. He lifted it up.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Putting to the point, the people on ESPN are saying it. No, dude, legends are saying it. Everybody is saying it. No, dude legends are saying it Everybody's ready. He said it what Tom Brady said it They don't listen anything the fucking Patriots say no But Bill you made a good point about something with that flop he did that was like so egregious like that was that was like he like waited went out of bounds and then did it like a child. It was like just to try to get the flag, which shows you he knows he's getting calls. It is, it was musical theater. It was ridiculous. And uh, it was Pirates of the Caribbean, Paul. Oh, Bill, we're going to be here next week talking,
Starting point is 00:32:00 talking Buffalo. We're going to be here talking Buffalo. The Buffalo bills are going in there. Oh, and I saw her face. Now Paul's a believer. You're betting against the chiefs in the playoffs and you're betting on the Buffalo bills. The Buffalo bills logo, the Buffalo should be replaced with a broken heart The buffalo should be replaced with a broken heart. Or just some Bills fan laying face down on a table that didn't break. Frying with wing sauce on the side of his face. Yeah, man, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I think the better team is Buffalo. I think they're going to go and win. Hey, Paul, you're not going to get an argument here on that. I think the better team was the, I think they're gonna go and win. Hey, Paul, you're not gonna get an argument here on that. I think the better team was the 49ers last year. But I, with confidence. So who wins the Super Bowl at this juncture here? We gotta do the picks when we find out.
Starting point is 00:32:59 But like, I'm just saying right now, who do you still think would score? If they're gonna three-peat, and then everybody's gonna be forced to say, oh my god, is this the greatest fucking team that ever fucking put on cleat? That's what it's gonna be, because they have nothing else. I think Buffalo is gonna beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl. That's what I want to happen, but I think the more we talk this out, Bill is a great point and the Chiefs are probably gonna win it. But I think the Eagles will be there either way. So I'll go Chiefs. You don't think that? Yeah. So, so Jake the Snake is with Bill. He's got the Eagles and Chiefs. Andrew?
Starting point is 00:33:44 Hey, hey, dude, the league, the guys that run the book are with the Chiefs. I actually think how much more of this shit you can fucking watch. How much more fucking watch? Yeah, I think the Bills can win. I mean, I thought the Ravens could have beat the Chiefs. I mean, I'm still heartbroken over that Ravens loss. I'm obviously not a Ravens fan this season. I was rooting for them.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I thought they had the team to beat the Chiefs and to win the Super Bowl, but that was brutal. But- No, he's giving the Bills credit though, man. They- Oh, no, no, no. Listen, I understand, but if but if if there's like two drop balls that like really
Starting point is 00:34:28 change the course of that game and I felt bad for that kid man yeah. Turnovers didn't the ones before those they don't count no no they do listen I'm not again I'm not saying the bills didn't do it I just think if you just if you add it all up it just
Starting point is 00:34:42 I think that those those two plays I mean if he catches that ball in the end zone obviously it's I'm gonna play in the Bill's coach in the made for tv movie. Put a word in for me they are teaching those guys to just punch the ball out that's like a play now where they're just running and they just from behind it's great punch down dude and it works. Well Lawrence Taylor came up with that they've been doing that ever. Well, Lawrence Taylor came up with that. They've been doing that ever since then, but Lawrence was the best at it.
Starting point is 00:35:08 He brings that hammer of Thor. You had your back to him. Lawrence Taylor, was there anybody better on defense? No. Who's the closest? Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis? In my opinion.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Ray Lewis is In my opinion. Ray Lewis is a good one. I don't think anybody, okay, I would go with Ray Lewis being the closest, but there's nobody, like, I don't know, people don't understand changing the game. Yeah. Ray Lewis dominated the game. What's Yeah. Reckless dominated the game.
Starting point is 00:35:46 What's his face was doing shit. You seen that clip like like that's not in the playbook. And he goes, well, you should put it in there because it's a dandy. You ever seen that? No. He's supposed to do it. He's supposed to drop back in coverage at the pro level and he rushes instead. That means his guy is open.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And not only does he still get to the quarterback before the guy can even see the dude he's supposed to be covering isn't covered, he strips the ball and gets a touchdown. Yeah. Yeah, wasn't he the first- Highlight reel looks like a future NFL, like the, you know, the high school reel
Starting point is 00:36:23 where it's like going to the NFL and the rest of these kids are going to a community college He was doing that at like the NFL level wasn't he the first guy to stand up as a D end not getting a three-point Stands just stand up and ret rush like that. Yeah, and Parcells was looking at him. Like what the fuck is he doing? That's so great the first guy to drive by the stadium, see the lights on and be like, oh shit, I thought that was tomorrow. And he like, and he got there in the first quarter. I didn't know that he's the one that started the punch the ball out. He's the first guy I saw that did that because he used to be they used to just try to set sack the quarterback and strip it yeah
Starting point is 00:37:06 No, they wouldn't they would just you just try to grab him and tackle him he's the guy at least he came up with the You know when he coming in from the blind side Yeah at that dude, and I also don't think anybody looked better in a uniform Oh than he did he looked like a freaking superhero Oh god, i'm getting the chills I love it. Charles Tillman had the record for punch-outs.
Starting point is 00:37:29 So I would say Lawrence Taylor, wide receiver, is a toss-up between Jerry Rice and Randy Moss. Yep, I agree. God, he says toss-up. Running back is a hard one. I'd have to go like, as far as like power and speed, Bo Jackson, and then as far as lasting longer, Earl Campbell. And then I would say, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:55 as far as being just elusive and explosive would be Barry Sanders, Walter Payton. Walter Payton was a mix of a power back and an elusive guy. He would do that step and then dip back out. He used to do that move. And then I would say honorable mention, when the guy who should be in the fucking Hall of Fame, as far as he was showing the future,
Starting point is 00:38:23 as far as his receiving ability, and a running back as Roger Craig. The fact that that guy isn't in the Hall of Fame is fucking ridiculous. He's not in the Hall of Fame. No, he's won like four Super Bowls now or three, two or three. He was on all those teams. Somehow he's not in. Crazy. All right. How about safeties? You got Ed Reed and Ronnie lot. Safe. Oh, Ed Reed's a good one. Um, Troy Palma, too. Well, Troy Palma was a good one. Mike Kane's was Mike Kane's a corn. Mike Kane's was a corner. Um, I think Ed Reed statistically is the best one. Do we saw him smoking a cigar when we were in Vegas at the Super Bowl. That was awesome. That's cool. He's a huge cigar guy. Yeah, those are all good. I don't know if people would... All right, who's the best quarterback you ever saw?
Starting point is 00:39:16 The best quarterback I ever saw is, I mean, it's for me, it's a no-brainer. It's Tom Brady. I saw him. I saw him a giant stadium, go 16 and Oh, get the record to Randy Moss. Randy got the record with that pass. Tom and Randy got the record together with that pass. And it was the first time in my life. This is when me and you first became friends and I've been a giant stadium. Plenty is the first time in any professional sporting event
Starting point is 00:39:46 I've ever seen when Brady and the offense were walking to the line of scrimmage and Giant Stadium is on their feet for all plays but three. It looked like they were at their practice facility, that calm, collective, knowing what they're doing. It was the most, I remember just being like 70,000 screaming against them and the way they just walked up like a machine. I was like, dude, this is this is nuts, dude. I'm watching something special here. I think I'm still a Joe Montana
Starting point is 00:40:14 guy and honorable mention damn damn marinos. season in 84. And him beating the 85 bears. They just had no fucking defense and their coach was old and it passed them by. So those are the Elway too, dude. Elway was my Elway, I would say. Yeah. And then also any of those guys, if they had like, you know, it's like, what if Dan Marino had Bill Walsh? You know what I mean? Cause that really is a part of it. You got to have all of those pieces. You know, the ownership, the GM, the coach, and all of that stuff. Dude, what if Jim Kelly won two of those? Jim Kelly, dude, he never gets talked about because they lost.
Starting point is 00:40:54 But dude, he went to four Super Bowls in a row. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah, and they had that big comeback against the Oilers. Yeah, but he didn't play in that. It was Frank Reich. It was his backup. Oh, that's right. Good call. Yeah. The 80s is when it like changed like those 70s quarterbacks. It was just it was a different game. All the Starbucks, the Brad shaws,
Starting point is 00:41:21 Fran Tarkin and all of that it was it was on Ken Stabler, Bert Jones, those dudes. It was on its way to becoming what it is. And that started in the eighties with all of that. But that's back when like, dude, just the Giants alone, what they did to Joe Montana and the quality of his life now. Like they broke him in half twice. That Leonard Marshall hit from behind. Oh, they played on fucking astroturf
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yes, well they're more common now Veteran Stadium was like getting tackled and on like the fucking parking lot, dude What about the first who was the first Mike Vic that I saw it was Randall Cunningham and dude Randall Oh, what's that? I went briscoe in my time first Mike Vick that I saw, it was Randall Cunningham. And dude, Randall- Arlen Brisco. What's that? Arlen Brisco. Well, in my time, it was, yeah, that's a little before my time.
Starting point is 00:42:10 My time was Randall Cunningham. But dude, Randall Cunningham also had a bomb. Do you remember his arm? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No, he, no, Randall Cunningham was unbelievable. Arlen Brisco was Randall Cunningham 20 years before him. Yeah, we've pulled him up on here before, I think. Dude, Randall Punningham would run around, run around,
Starting point is 00:42:27 run around, get at it, and then just sling it, dude. He was great. Oh, he was incredible. Oh, you gotta love the honorable mentions. I love the honorable mentions. I feel bad right now, because I know the listeners are all screaming names that they wanna fucking hear.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I gotta think of some... Oh, I'm sure they're saying Rogers, B Breeze and Payton for quarterbacks, but you know, that's more modern. And we didn't brought up Drew Brees or whatever, as far as like the guy that Doug Flutie award, the guy who shouldn't be there, but still just fucking goes out and wins. You got to go fucking Drew Brees. Brett Favre in his day. Brett Favre in his heyday. Yeah. Brett Favre was always like, he can't too many fucking turnovers for me. Yeah, that's true. the the
Starting point is 00:43:07 the the the the the the the like, well, he's a cowboy. He's a slinger. There really was no ramifications. I bet he historically leads everybody in like four or more interceptions in a game.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Did we mention Troy Aikman? We haven't. No, Troy very quiet has three. Kurt Warner. Terry Bradshaw. Kurt Warner with those Rams team was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 What's it called? Who was the guy? Doug Williams when he was at Tampa and then one with the Redskins. There's been a lot of good QBs out there. Yeah. I'm thinking about all these running backs too. Just like LT and Adrian Peterson.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Oh, dude. Mufflefalk. Who hit the hole faster than LaDanya Tomlinson? just like LT and Adrian Peterson. Oh dude. And I'll tell you what. Who hit the hole faster than LaDanya Tomlinson? The year he had 40 or whatever, 30 something touchdowns? I had a conversation about him with somebody and they kept referring him to his LT, my neighbor, he's younger, and I was like, oh you mean LDT. I was like, we're different generations here. See, there's LT and there's LDT. But look, you know, we never mentioned Peyton Manning once,
Starting point is 00:44:32 which is nuts. But all right, Peyton, oh, yeah, Peyton Manning Jake brought him up in the run of those guys. But dude, listen, Brady went to 11 Super Bowls. Did he go to 11? He lost four. Plus four. So that That would be 11 right? He lost seven. Oh seven right six with a fast seven. Who else did he lose to? He lost to the Giants in 7-11. He lost to the Eagles in the Eagles he lost to.
Starting point is 00:44:56 In like 2017. I think dude the comeback, listen, the comeback against the Falcons. If that didn't solidify, he was, through the comeback against the Falcons, if that didn't solidify, he was a, through the comeback against the Falcons with the two, two point conversions, dude, if that didn't seal the deal, dude, I mean, the guy didn't make a mistake. Who's the Falcons, Paul? Dude, 28-3 though, dude. In the third.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I got a crazy stat about Eli Manning. Oh, Eli, yeah. In seven and 11, he never won a playoff game any other year except those years. And all were on the road. How nuts is that? That'll never happen again. To me, that's one of those things where you're like, how is Eli not in the Hall of Fame? And then somebody brings that up and it's like, huh, are they hanging their hat on that? It's a weird stat for a guy that was that good. No, his stats are weird across the board. He has like the same amount, almost the same amount of interceptions to touchdowns, his completions, but he just won big games. Like I think you'd have to
Starting point is 00:45:58 say after two and two Super Bowl MVPs, I think he should be in there. He's going to get it. You're not going to get a Patriots fan being like, yeah, no, I don he should be in there. He's gonna get out of this. I don't think you're gonna get a Patriots fan being like, I don't know about that guy. We know about that guy. Who do you think the best rookie is? I'm trying to think of Raiders. Who are Raiders? Who are the best Raiders? Ben Stabler.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Right, but who was after him? Wasn't there anybody after him? Jeff Hostetler. No, Jeff Hostetler won a Super Bowl with the Giants. Did he never play with them? Gatlin? Chris? Something like that. Rich Gannon. Oh, Rich Gannon. Rich Gannon went to a Super Bowl and his receivers on that team was Jerry Rice and Tim Brown. Mark Wilson. Tim Brown's another guy you gotta bring up.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Tim Brown. Tim Brown. Tim Brown, Tony Gonzalez, as far as I can Blanda. The great, uh, the greatest tight ends of all time. Tim Brown, Tony Gonzalez. Um, Antonio Gates. Antonio Gates, Russ Brown. You should be in the Hall of Fame too.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Travis, I think he's now you have to say I think you have to say Travis Kelsey now. Do you do it is? Yeah, he just passed Tony Gonzalez for yards I think last year or that you know, some I didn't have numbers like that.
Starting point is 00:47:18 No, he's he's got a lot of yards. He's got a lot of this is actually one of his lowest years. This is one of his worst years. I think wrong. First, to be honest, you go I heard stats today versus like the stats like tennis just it's a different the game changes so much. That's why it's hard to go like error to error. Obviously
Starting point is 00:47:36 Kelsey would fucking dominate in any Oh, Gronkowski, dude. Gronkowski had hands. He had like he it wasn't like he actually reached out high, grabbed the ball and then yards after the catch. Kronk was a beast dude. They just went after his fucking legs. Yeah. But they just, they hit that.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I never saw a guy get hit low. You had to, there was the only way to bring them down, but they just fucking hammered him. He went down like a tree dude. They would hit him right up, they would hit him like right above, right above above the knees and then his top would just crash straight down to Brady loved him. Brady loved going to him because he always delivered for him. Yeah. Who do you think the best rookie quarterbacks are Jake. Ten text me maybe.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Jaden Daniels are the best rookie quarterbacks I think Jaden but also I believe Ben Rothesberger went 13 and three his first year. Ben. By Forrest Gump moments I went to I was doing a gig in Pittsburgh and I went to the mall and Ben Rothesberger was sitting there signing autographs and it was like five people in the line and no one, who's that guy, is that guy, he's got the long name, right?
Starting point is 00:48:52 And dude, that was like the second game of the year. And then a month later I was on tour with Charlie Murphy, Russ DeSol and Donnell Rollins and we were in Dallas and I went to that old ugly ass stadium. They had a little like a giant golf ball that they cut the top off of and I went in there and by then he was already a star. That's when he was like seven and oh and the legend of Big Ben. I'll say as far as what I liked about him and I don't know that you're going to see a guy like that again.
Starting point is 00:49:24 He was an old school like tough quarterback, where it was like tackling a defensive level of hits that that guy took. And he still didn't go down. He wasn't elusive. He just grab them and you bounce off of them and he would still make the throw and the completion. But you know what he was a little more elusive than you think because there are times where he like scampered away and you're like, how did he not get caught? Cause he looks so slow. And they said he was that height and that big in high school
Starting point is 00:49:52 when he played in Ohio. They go, it was like the same guy, but you're right. The last name makes you go, oh that guy's that's a backup last name. Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't seem like it's going to be, yeah, that sounds like a fucking Cleveland Brown quarterback. Who's back up to Chicago the next year. You guys didn't have Gronk in 07, right?
Starting point is 00:50:17 When did we get Gronk? No, I thought those were the Welker years. Gronk would have been like out here at the when they had, you know when Willis Whelan comes out? We were out here during the thing and he had just gotten drafted. And I was standing there and he was fucking huge. He was just a kid. And I heard him, he was like talking or whatever. And Willis goes, that's your new tight end. That's your new tight end. And I was just like, all right, yeah, cool. It's like a big guy. I didn't think it was gonna be, I didn't think, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:49 I had no idea it was gonna be what he was. Now did that Patriots run with those, that Patriots run with the players they had from Moss that year to Gronk, to Welker, to Edelman. 2010 and his scouting report, if I remember correctly, was really good, but he was injured his last year in Arizona. And some people are like, nah, this guy's injury prone. Like
Starting point is 00:51:11 he's, it's like, he's not gonna forget. I know he had his off field issues, but like those years when we had the two tight ends, it was amazing. Yeah. Oh, by the way, how did we not, how did we? A movie. How did we never ever mention Aaron Rodgers? And he's like arguably the most talented quarterback arm wise ever. That guy. Well, that's my thing too.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I don't, I don't think, do you think that Aaron Rodgers at his best? Is Patrick Mahomes played at that level yet? As far as throwing the football, no. That's statistically now. As a matter of fact, Aaron Rodgers did the Brett Favre cross the body and actually fit it in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:50 He got it in, yeah. So I loved it. I could talk about this all the time. So Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the last Hall of Fame quarterback at the end of his career that's gonna go to the Jets. Everybody's after Brett and then fucking, everybody's going to be the agents are all about, you don't want to go there. It's not going to end well.
Starting point is 00:52:15 They just show a chart of everybody that did it. Yeah. So that's not. I got a great story. I don't know, Bill, I might have told you this, but this is a great story for the show. So this is a Warren Moon. This is a Warren Moon on the Minnesota Vikings story.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Warren Moon, I guess he was it was after the the Oilers or whatever, or whenever he played on the on the Vikings. And he had a young Chris Carter Hall of Famer. And I guess he threw the ball and Chris Carter like he missed Chris Carter and Chris Carter, Hall of Famer. And I guess he threw the ball and Chris Carter, like he missed Chris Carter and Chris Carter kind of did this diva flashy, wow, come on. And apparently Warren Moon went up to him, gets in his face and he goes, if you ever fucking do that again in public, he said, I will bury you in this offense and nobody will ever know your fucking name. It's true story. bury you in this offense and nobody will ever know your fucking name. It's a true story.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Crazy. Love that. Chris Carter, one of the great receivers too. Yeah. Oh my God. John Jefferson, the first Jerry Rice, but he took the money and went to Green Bay. Dude, Green Bay had James Lofton and John Jefferson in the same thing and they were playing in the frozen tundra. Oh my God, if Dan Marino had those two, Dan Marino is my coach, John Wooden. That's my guy, Dan Marino. I'm not trying to hurt Buffalo Bills fans here, but this was their team. You had Thurman Monson in the back, Thurman Thomas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:41 You had Thurman Thomas, Thurman Monson. You had, rest his soul. I led wide receiver. Rest his soul. You had Thurman, Thurman Munson. You had, rest his soul. L.A. wide receiver. Rest his soul. You had, you had Thurman Thomas. You had Thurman Thomas in the backfield. You had James Lofton. You had Andre Reed. You had Bruce Smith. You had the, the Daryl Talley. Cornelius Bennett. Daryl Talley. Don Beebe. Dude, Don Beebe and special teams. They just went against the Cowboys with Emmett, Troy, Michael.
Starting point is 00:54:10 They also went up against Bill Belichick's Giants defense. And they went up against Joe Gibbs, dude. They went up against, first of all, they went up against the two masters, Belichick Parcells on the same fucking team, and then Joe Gibbs. And then they went up against fucking Abadam Cowboys. We got like 49 number one picks when he cut all those players after the Herschel Walker trade.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And shout out to Jimmy Johnson, picked all the right guys too. Jimmy Johnson is not getting enough credit. Guess what? Give a fuck. Jerry Jones wanted him out. Fucking mood since the first time I saw him since he was with Miami. He's just always been ear to ear grin. I've never been happy with a head of hair like this.
Starting point is 00:54:58 You ever notice when a, I love his hair. You ever notice though when an owner does that, when an owner wants to, gets rid of the guy that they shouldn't get rid of, the team doesn't win. Jerry Jones didn't want Jimmy Johnson calling the shots and he got rid of them because they had a riff. And then the Maras, you know, the Maras kind of got rid of Coughlin after Coughlin did what he did and Coughlin wouldn't shake his hand
Starting point is 00:55:23 at the press conference and stuff and you shouldn't have got rid of the guy. You stuff and you shouldn't have got rid of the guy. You know, you shouldn't have got rid of the guy. The fucking team... No, it's ridiculous. Ego. Ego, and what's his face? He's still saying he's gonna be the GM.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Jones, yeah. Jerry Jones is supposed to be the fucking GM. What about Rex Ryan going, the Jets gotta pick me. I'm the best guy for the job. They know I've been there. I could do it again. I'm gonna come me I'm the best guy for the job they know I've been there I could do it again I'm gonna come back and I'm the guy for the job. He's just basically interviewing himself
Starting point is 00:55:50 on ESPN. My team did something similar we fired Marty Schottenheimer after going 14 and two and then we're terrible. So Marty Schottenheimer is an anomaly. I've never seen a guy have a more dominant year and
Starting point is 00:56:04 then in the playoffs be winning and then just have it stop. Is the worst time clock management ever. Falcons are there too though. The Falcons in that game were out there too. They didn't run the ball. They just kept throwing it up 28 to three. Yeah, no, that yeah, the different guys. The NFC central, whatever they fucking call it now, no, yeah, the different types, but yeah. The NFC Central, whatever they fucking call it now,
Starting point is 00:56:27 there used to be the black and blue division. At some point, dude, other than the Packers, the misery. The misery in that Lions, Vikings, and Bears, the Bermuda Triangle, fucking being a football fan. Well, they were saying that that was the best division all year people were saying, and I'm not saying that they weren't because they had obviously a few competitive teams
Starting point is 00:56:52 but they're like best division all year. And they're like, they just, they got shut out of the playoffs. Well. I went three. First ever is when you have a great season like the Lions did and you're just one and done. I mean, which far emotionally as a fan,
Starting point is 00:57:09 and how far ahead you've already planned, and it's over in hours. You know who did that the most, I hate to say it, but Peyton Manning did that the most. I think Peyton Manning, they would go 13 and three, and the Chargers would knock them out. I think Peyton Manning has 11 first round eliminations or something like that, dude. Well, that's why their owner had to get on the competition committee and change fucking
Starting point is 00:57:34 rules to tip it to the advantage of their team and steal our offense. Yeah. And an owner shouldn't be allowed. The NFL should not allow an owner to be on a rules committee. It's a complete conflict of interest. It does. But it's the Midwest, you know? It's fine. No, because then they could make rules for indoors.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You know what I mean? It's like for their stadium. It's just rules of where you kick the ball off and where you don't when you fucking, you know, miss a field goal, whatever the fuck happened that year. Yeah. It was like boss hog shit yeah um did you guys hear about this happened uh over break because you mentioned uh we're talking about coaches the john madden movie that they're making oh that's gonna be do you know who's playing john madden who three key which they're gonna show this Sunday before the game. Who's playing Madden?
Starting point is 00:58:25 Nicolas Cage. What? No, but imagine him like with makeup. They're gonna do it. You gotta kick the ball. And you know who's playing Al Davis? Ha! Ha! Ha! You know, kick the ball through the uprights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:44 You got four quarters. One, two, three, four, overtime. Why would he do that? Why? Al Davis, you know who's playing Al Davis? Who? Christian Bale. Oh, I heard that, I heard that. That could be good.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I would have thought to get Frank Caliendo to play John Maddon. Oh God, that would be great. Nobody takes it seriously at all. His family is like, the- the- the- the- the- the again, put them in Eddie Murphy's Nutty Professor. All right. Well, we're at. Well, we went that was great. Little little memory lane, little nostalgia there. All right, everybody. Those are our championship week, championship week picks. Bill has the Chiefs and Eagles. I have the commanders and bills. I hope you appreciate when you watch the Kansas City Chiefs, the level of greatness that you
Starting point is 00:59:55 are watching. I just hope that you appreciate that. Dude, I'm not going to mention the name now. I'll tell you guys off the recording, but I was in the green room. I might've the recording, but I was in the green room. I might've said this before. I was in the green room in Milwaukee or something. And this guy, this guy that was featuring for me, nice guy, a Spanish kid, tall. He goes, he told me a guy he opened for, and it was a name that we all know. And he goes, yeah, I was in your open for this.
Starting point is 01:00:20 What the guy said to him, I guess the guy he opened for the headliner killed. And he went back in the green room and he sat down and he Looked and he goes I'm jealous of you, bro And that feature goes why he goes I'm jealous that you got to see that set that I just had I wish I could have watched He goes I wish he goes I wish I could have watched what I just did for an hour I'm just they're alone with him and do it. I'm terrifying. Like, I'm not an accident.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Not fucking around. Like I'm jealous of you, bro. And he goes, Oh, why? He goes, because you just got to witness and watch what I just did out there. Like I wish I could have watched if it was like some Kanye way. And he thought he was fucking with him. He's like, ah, and he was like, No, man, I was like, I'm
Starting point is 01:01:02 jealous. You got to see that, dude. He told me he was serious. I was just like, what? I was like, dude, that's another when I tell you, I'll tell you, hey, I can't say it here. All right. Yeah, yeah. I got a story like that. I'm not going to say it because people might figure it out. Okay. Dude, I heard- I had somebody bring me up one time and the level that they complimented themselves and where they put me in position to them.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I was like, for the first five minutes I was on stage, I'm like, did he really just- Oh! Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Yeah. Yeah. You can't even think of your first jokes. You're like, wait, what's- Like, what they like? the the Yeah, this is the closest thing. It fucked me up for like seven minutes and then I was like, then I was mad at myself going, why did I just let him get away with that? I should have at least said something. And then yeah, and then it fucked up like the next few minutes and then he ended up being right. I was thinking about what he said. That might have been psychological warfare.
Starting point is 01:02:41 That might have been the plan. Oh dude, it was a, it was a fucking good one. I was just like. But it was like, dude, it was the same thing like what that kid said. It was like, so like, is was he joking? Like, do people like literally? OK, you think that shit, but to be also so unaware to say it out loud. That's one of the most narcissistic, crazy. I mean, the fact that somebody thinks you're
Starting point is 01:03:05 fucking around is how wild it is. I'm jealous of you, dude. He goes, what? You got to see what I just did. Hey, you know, tell us all three of you guys, because you guys got to hear my conspiracy theories about the NFL, you know, I wish
Starting point is 01:03:22 that I could have been you. Thank you. Telling you what really goes on behind closed doors with the no bill, Bill, Andrew and Jake, I'm jealous that you guys got to watch me give my picks as I was given a jealous that you got to hear me think them out and say, I can't believe beat the book three, four years in a row. I can't believe beat the book three four years in a row. Rod's go. I'm just jealous that you got to experience an evening with me. It is one of the greatest one bedroom apartments you're ever going to be in, in your life.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Dude, I'm going to say that to my wife next time we get a little frisky. As soon as we're done, I'm gonna go, I'm jealous of you. You just got to have me do that to you. I wish I could have. Oh, because when you sit there at brunch and listen to all your friends talking about their husbands, you're gonna sit and have nothing to say. Because there's no way after what I just did to you, you would have any sort of a complaint. All right. Oh, that's great. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Bronze that apartment when you leave. It's unrentable. Like, you know, they retire a jersey. They're going to retire his apartment. they've only done that to three apartments, unknown Burt Reynolds, Brad Pitt and unknown Jake the Snake. Certain departments after the legendary acts that happened in there just have to be retired. And he brings injury reports, you know, he's as always, as always the MVP. Thank you, Thank you. I Could see Jake the snake at a bar in Hollywood and some chick comes up and she goes
Starting point is 01:05:14 Are you Jake the snake from anything better? He just gets cool. He goes depends who's asking If you want me to be Are you injury? I'm the fucking I'm becoming the Bobby Bonilla of this podcast Dude Bobby Bonilla just got his last year's check. Yeah They should extend them again, I got the Allen Houston contract guy got a million bucks for like 30 years What is with New York in these these fucking fucking like never ending contracts? It's amazing. Stupid.
Starting point is 01:05:48 It's so stupid, man. That, that one Soto 760 million for a fucking position player. Cause don't fucking eight. You guys throw it around. Paul, you get, yeah. Hey, New York, you know, you guys like to spend. All right guys, to get the, uh, you guys know what to do to sign up and to have fun, obviously bet responsibly. But get the best app out there.
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Starting point is 01:06:55 Hey, I just saw the chiefs. Vegas just took the chiefs game off the board. They just took it. Hey, you can't bet it. It's just too fucking obvious. Everybody knows they're going to win. I'll let you bet the bills though. You know what I'm doing here Paul, I'm trying to jinx them.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I hope so. I have no idea how bad I went wrong about all of this. Oh God. I just want to see Josh Allen run off that field like this with his long hair on his way back to Buffalo. Oh God. Both games had the same over under, which I thought it was 47 and a half.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Caught my eye obviously. And I like, I like Mahomes and Kelsey. Like they seem like, the refs did this. The refs did this. Yeah, I don't like either of them. Independently you think they did? They didn't. It's a marketing plan.
Starting point is 01:07:43 But this shit, this whole, that shit, done. Done. Nah. How great, what would you do if it was like 34 to 10? Andy Reid's a great coach too. All right, anyway. I like Andy Reid. I like all that shit,
Starting point is 01:08:04 but I also like football, Paul. I like football. May the best team win. Well, last question here. There's a lake flag. Did the Washington commanders beat the Lions because they're that good? Or did the Lions just have a bad day
Starting point is 01:08:19 because if the commanders beat them outright, Philly could lose, which I'm excited to see. Paul, the Lions are in the Bermuda Triangle. Minnesota. I like that. Chicago back up to Minnesota. You do not want to be rooting for football within that triangle. Did you come up with that?
Starting point is 01:08:41 The Bermuda Triangle? That's great. Oh, but that's what it is. It's the Bermuda Triangle. It's the NFL the Bermuda Triangle? That's great. Oh, but that's what it is. It's the Bermuda Triangle. It's the NFL's Bermuda Triangle. It is the level of suffering. Uh. Like the AFC has the Buffalo Bills and the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:08:53 All right. The Jets? Jets too. Oh, and the Jets. That's sort of an isosceles. That's a weird looking triangle. Um. I don't know. But it's the fact that they're all in the same spot. Although the Jets and Bills are in that division.
Starting point is 01:09:11 What about the Dolphins by the way? Dolphins. They've been living off that undefeated season since 72. They haven't won in over 50 years. They won three years. The last time they won was three years after the only time the Jets won. All right, let's talk about real quick before we leave, let's talk about the longest droughts
Starting point is 01:09:30 in the NFL right now. You got the Cowboys, you have the Miami Dolphins. Real quick, the Dolphins are the longest playing drought in the league. What? You can't throw the fucking Cowboys in there like that. You got to go back 50 years with all these other guys are jets. Super Bowl or playoffs? No, no Super Bowl win jets 69. Miami 72.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Bills never. They want to title in like 60 or 61. Bills never Detroit Lions never so Cardinals 70. Yeah, Cardinals 77 seasons without a super bowl detroit lions 66 seasons the viking 60 63 oh cleveland browns cleveland browns 60 cleveland browns next there's no no that's technically not true because that franchise is the ravens. Oh, that's right. What it is is Cleveland. This is the most Cleveland story ever. When the Cleveland Browns won a Super Bowl, they did it in Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I mean, that's hard, dude. Yeah. And then Atlanta, 59 seasons. Tennessee Titans, 59 seasons. seasons but again that's the Titans you got a the Oilers the also Houston Island yeah the Buffalo Bills 58 seasons wow that's that's an honest that's an honest 58 seasons the Chargers 58. They're counting them went during the NFL AFL merger Right, so that account they're going back to Super Bowl one. They've never won one, right? But like that their last winning a title was like early 60. John F. Kennedy was in office Wow, I'm the fucking Lions wanted Bobby Lane. I don't think Eisenhower had been elected yet
Starting point is 01:11:25 Truman might have still been president. I'm not sure about that. Yeah, Chargers, then Bengals, then Jets, 56 seasons. And then the Carolina Panthers and the Jaguars were the expansion team in 95, and they haven't done it, right? Jaguars, it's been 30 years. Panthers, 30 years. Niners, 30 years. Cowboys 29, Texans cold
Starting point is 01:11:49 Saints. But the Dolphins are the longest playoff drought, yeah? Well, you got to understand like those early, like right up until like fucking, say the Cowboys run. 51. All right. Like so few teams, like the Packers had two, Steelers had four, 49ers had four, Cowboys had four, they were just eating them up.
Starting point is 01:12:18 The fucking Redskins had three, Raiders had three. So all of a sudden, like those first like 30 fucking Super Bowls were shared, it seemed, between a half dozen teams, and everybody else was on the outs. Yeah, I saw a trivia question yesterday that said, what's the only NFL team to win in four different decades? Might be the...
Starting point is 01:12:43 Wait, what's... Packers. No, the answers. A lot of people were saying were those and the Broncos, but it's the Giants. The Giants did it in 86. They did it in 91. They did it in 0 seven and they did it in 11.
Starting point is 01:12:56 That was a self serving staff, but I'll give it to you. No, no, I'm just saying it was a, it was a thing that came up. I mean, I, who am I? I would have said it. I would have said it if it was another team. I would have said it if it was another team. So for Jake, to answer your question,
Starting point is 01:13:11 the longest playoff drought, if this fucking AI answer is correct here, it says, just the regular search, it says New York Jets 15 seasons last appearance 2010. That's when they beat the Patriots, I believe. Oh my god. Yeah. On Brady's career. That's Rex Ryan. That's right. That was the Rex Ryan. Yeah, that was 2000. That's the last time
Starting point is 01:13:35 they've been in the playoffs. Wasn't that Mark Sanchez, right? It was. Yeah. The Jets haven't been in the Jets haven't even been a wild card in 15 years. Dude. Paul, I got to be honest with you. In a lot of ways, that jet loss hurt just as much as those cowboy of the Giants ones,
Starting point is 01:13:55 because he talked all of this shit. I'm not going up there to kiss their rings. We absolutely destroyed him like 52 to something in December. And then Welker said, we're going to put our best foot forward, making fun of how Rex Ryan's in defeat. And then Belichick benched him. And we just started off, no pun intended, on the wrong foot. And they had that great defense.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And they came in and they beat us in fucking in Foxboro. That was a brutal, brutal loss. Wow. Jake, the Dolphins, that looks like they won a few years back. So they're not they haven't won a playoff game since 2000, but they've been. That's what I meant. Okay. Yeah, that long.
Starting point is 01:14:40 They get like the Dolphins get like a pass. Nobody talks about them not winning a lot. Plus they are raiders. Fucking undefeated season. They keep getting their balls washed about that every year. But they also had a lot of good years with Marino like competing.
Starting point is 01:14:58 So I think that's why it feels. Yeah, depends on who you ask. I mean, we're a little old long time ago, though, but like I didn't realize that they. I mean, dude, 2000 was the last time they were in the playoffs? The nineties were just yesterday. Or what? Playoff win? Yeah. And they haven't won a Super Bowl dude in 53 years. Dude, if the Buffalo Bills win, fucking the Buffalo is going to burn down. And then they
Starting point is 01:15:22 could do, I don't even know if the dude, you know how many people are at the airport rooting them on? It's like the whole fucking town goes to the airport while they're just to watch them get on the plane. How bad, I want them to win, dude. Yeah. Like, they give a shit. That's so bad for tourism, dude.
Starting point is 01:15:37 What? That's so bad for tourism, that stat. That the whole town is there. It's just clearly said there's absolutely nothing to do here other than to root for the bills. Dude, the coach came off the plane. He couldn't believe it. It was like Buffalo was at the airport
Starting point is 01:15:52 by like where the plane landed. They're just going nuts. And I was like, holy shit, man. Those people are so. Reality glasses. Actually seeing Niagara Falls was an amazing thing. And now, dude, have you seen these fucking guys? They have these things. These guys make these things. that Like aviation and I'm watching this guy. I'm like this guy is flying a fucking helicopter That's nuts it's it's like to the point where you could almost log the hours it's that real
Starting point is 01:16:40 Does do it do they count as hours for real or no? I know like when guys are I think when Those professional ones not the one that you have in your house, I believe somebody I'm sure, plenty of people know more about this than I do. But I think on when you're becoming like a pilot for United or something like that, you I think you're allowed to log some of those. What do they call the simulator miles into your book, I believe because they're that good at this point. But I don't know. I still don't see how that they could duplicate a fucking cross. Dude, it's that bit. It's that bit that I did that pilot came up to me all happy joking pilot in a JFK. And he was like, we're starting to build a rapport. He like taps me on the
Starting point is 01:17:17 thing. I swear to God, he was a happy guy, like overweight is hilarious. And he just goes, Dude, you know, I learned I swear he was talking to me like this. He goes, you know what I learned to do this? Okay, fucking had like a Delta pin or whatever, America, whatever it was. And he goes, do video games. He goes, it's the exact same thing. It's the exact same thing, dude. I did a joke in my bit and I was just going,
Starting point is 01:17:36 he goes, yeah, he goes, it's all the technology's nuts. That's what- That's the same thing, dude. And I was just, that's what I said. If you don't have, I could fucking die. That's, yeah. You don I was just, that's what I said. Because if you don't have, I could fucking die. That's, yeah. You don't have that, there's that, and then there's fighting a crosswind and crabbing in,
Starting point is 01:17:50 you know, fucking, you know, in your goddamn, you know. The buttons may be the same. The buttons and all the things, the instruments may be the same, but that doesn't mean. Hey, Paul, you know why I became a Green Beret? Fucking PlayStation. Exact same thing. Paul, I've been to Iraq in my living room. You know how many throats I slit?
Starting point is 01:18:10 In that case, I'd like to say I am a Jedi. You're a Jedi. He's a Jedi in a video game. No, but I know what they're saying as far as like, you know, it's weird. It's like, you know how to do it, but then you have to relearn how to do it for real. But it's like, you know, it's like the steering wheel, gas pedal, all of that shit's there and how you ship they make the cockpit the exact same. So you know where all the shit is and what the buttons do. But then you do still have to learn how
Starting point is 01:18:38 to do it for real. Did you ever hear Mark Wahlberg talk about he was supposed to be on that 911 plane? And he goes, if I was on it, dude, I'm stopping. He goes, I'm stopping it. He goes, it's not happening if I'm on it. And he was dead. It was, you know how jealous I am of you? All right, guys, we will see you one more week. Super Bowl week.
Starting point is 01:19:00 We will be back. Enjoy the championship games. And we'll see you next time. Bet responsibly. Have a good time.

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