anything goes with emma chamberlain - growing is so uncomfortable lol

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

[video available on spotify] i'm definitely in a stage of limbo in my life right now that is undeniably deeply uncomfortable. i feel like i'm growing right now, and it's one thing to be growing on a micro scale, like in one area of your life, but it's another thing to be growing in multiple areas of your life at once. and that's what i'm gonna be talking about today. Save Your Way, exclusively at Hotels.com. Learn more about Venmo Stash, visit http://www.venmo.com/stash-rewards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A dinner that I eat frequently is pasta with tomato sauce, some veggies, and some sort of cheesy topping. Either like parmesan cheese or nutritional yeast, which is like a vegan, cheesy, weird alternative. In the last two nights that I've eaten it, about 10 minutes post-consumption of the meal, I've developed a really bizarre rash on my elbows, knees, and ears. okay, itchy red patches on my elbows and knees in hot, burning red ears. What is that? I googled it. I didn't, I didn't figure anything out. I don't really know what's going on. But if you're wondering why my aura is off, if my aura even is off, I can't tell if it's off. It's really hard to read your own aura. You can do it. It's possible. But it's kind of hard. If my aura seems off to you, it's because I'm having an active allergic reaction right now. I don't know. I don't know. I don't. know what it is. Like, is it the tomato sauce? Am I allergic to tomatoes? Well, that will suck because I love tomato-based things. I love ketchup. Does this mean I can't eat ketchup anymore? I love dipping a frying ketchup. Even more sad, this is one of my go-to dinners. I love this dinner. I love

a big bowl of pasta with red sauce, with tomato sauce. I love that. Am I allergic to broccoli? That's my favorite vegetable. And that's what was in the pasta the last two nights. I had broccoli in there. You know, I'm bummed right now. So if my aura's off, it's because my body is a mystery to me right now. It is a mystery. And I will get to the bottom of it. And I may keep you posted. But either way, I'm giving an aura disclaimer.

Like, if the aura's off, that's why. The aura also might be off because of the topic of this episode. Although, I will say, I feel like the phase of life that I'm in right now isn't necessarily destroying my aura. Like I don't feel like my aura completely sucks. However, I'm definitely in a stage of limbo in my life right now in a way that's undeniably, deeply uncomfortable for me. And I don't think it's putting me into a bad place that's like emanating bad vibes out of me,

but I'm definitely a little bit uncomfortable. And that's what I'm going to be talking about today, the phase of life that I'm in. And to be honest, I didn't write an outline for this episode. And I'm normally very type A in particular about writing outlines for every single podcast episode to ensure that there's a flow and it's easy to follow. But I didn't do that today. And that freaks me out. But that also kind of goes hand in hand with what I'm going through in my life right now,

which is what I would call a growth stage. I briefly interrupt this episode to let you know that this episode of Anything Goes is presented by Hotels.com. Save Your Way is a new feature on Hotels.com. as simple as it sounds. When you book a trip as a Hotels.com member, you decide how to use your savings. Take the instant savings now

or bank the savings as rewards for later. It's your call. Only at Hotels.com. Save your way is available to loyalty members in the U.S. and UK on hotels with member prices. Other terms apply. C-Sight for details. Now back to the episode.

I feel like I'm growing right now, okay? In a way that makes me very uncomfortable. because growing is uncomfortable. But see, the thing is, it's one thing to grow on like a micro scale, like in one area of your life. It's another thing to be growing on a broader scale, like in multiple areas of life at once. And right now I feel like I'm going through a phase where I'm 360 growing.

I'm growing in every single category of my life. I don't feel solid necessarily. in any area of my life. And it's definitely very chaotic and uncomfortable. But I also know that it's awesome and it's crucial. And I think the purpose of today's episode is not to necessarily share with you my solution on how to handle an uncomfortable growth phase

that sort of feels like a limbo, but rather just share what I'm going through because that's kind of all I know how to talk about right now. It's hard to talk about anything else when you're in a phase like that. And it's fascinating because it genuinely applies to every single category in my life. Okay, let's break down the categories of life. There's mental health, mental well-being. Okay, that's one area.

There's career and job. There's social life interacting with other people. There's purpose, like your goals and your purpose in life, morals, values, goals, purposes, you know, that category, what else? I feel like that's it. Oh, there's also love, romance, potentially for some of us. I would say I'd break my life down into those five categories. I mean, there's probably more, but I just can't think of them right now. And I will say I'm in an uncomfortable growth period in every single one. Let's walk through it. Starting with my mental health and well-being.

Okay, if you're familiar with me, you know, my mental health challenges consist of anxiety, OCD, perfectionism, control freakism, imposter's syndrome. I can get depressed. I'm not really depressed right now. Whoa. Loving that, loving that, loving that that one's not rearing its ugly head right now,

but that does happen sometimes. It's been a while, though. that's sort of who I am, right? And I think I'm at a point right now where I've sort of enabled those brain neuro pathways for so long. And I've not really addressed the root of those issues. Like, I've just kind of put a lot of band-aids on those challenges. You know, like, for example, if I'm super anxious because one of my parents didn't, answer the phone. And I start spiraling and spiraling and spiraling and spiraling about, you know, what if something happened to them? Okay. What has been the solution to that up until this point?

It's been, let me get a hold of them. Okay. And then once I get a hold of them, I can let go of that anxiety. But see, that's not really getting to the root of the problem. That's just a band-aid. Getting a hold of them and proving to myself that my anxiety was false, you know, that is not necessarily a full-on solution because that doesn't help me develop any tools moving forward. I've kind of been Band-Aid methoding. And something that I'm particularly struggling with right now mentally is ironically, I have some things going on in my life that are really good. Like, I've been blessed with a few blessings in my life as of recent in a way that has been very profound for me in a way that I am unbelievably grateful for, okay? And instead of just being grateful

and stoked about the blessings in my life, if you will, I've found myself actually kind of unable to process that I can receive such blessings. And instead of enjoying these things, I'm more anxious and paranoid and freaked out than ever. And I've tried, you know, all the things that I know how to do, right? Mindfulness, even weird little things like imagining a stop sign in my head when I start spiraling about how well things are going, perhaps, getting myself back on track in that way, slowing down, you know, blah, blah, blah. I've tried all the things that usually work, and they're not working this time.

I'm finding that I'm convincing myself that I don't deserve these things and that because I've received certain blessings, that now means that I'm going to be cursed. And that's definitely an OCD brain thing, right? And it's bad. It's really bad. And it's really uncomfortable. And it's really ruining. It's not ruining. Actually, let's be gentle here. It's not ruining. But it's making it very hard for me to enjoy the moment. When I know, and this is advice I've given on this podcast, I know how important it is to enjoy the moment and to not worry about certain good things being taken away. Listen, when Benson Boone said, please stay, I won't you. Wait, what did he say? He's like, these beautiful things that I've got. That's like me right now. That's literally me right now

being like, don't take it away, okay? And I think that's somewhat normal, right? To be so grateful for, you know, certain things in life that come into your life that then you sort of spiral about how you could fuck it up or ruin it. But see, for me, my brain takes it a step further. And instead of just being like, oh, all of these beautiful things that, you know, have entered my life, I'm not even worried about those things getting ruined. I'm like worried about somehow it's triggered my brain to then be anxious.

about just catastrophe in general in my life. Like I'm, things feel really nice right now in a way. And it's making me afraid of like major catastrophe, unrelated to actually the blessings in my life, if that makes sense. This episode is brought to you by Uber 1. Uber 1 for students is the best way to save money on Uber and Uber eats. Members get great perks like zero dollar delivery fee, 5% off eligible orders, and 5% back in Uber credits on rides.

If you're a student, it's a no-brainer. You can also get free items on eligible orders throughout the week, like a free burrito from Cassada, every Thursday and loads more from brands you love. Try it out now and get your first four weeks free. Become an Uber 1 for students member and start saving on Uber and Uber Eats. Eligibility and member terms apply. When Westcham first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion, inline skates were everywhere,

and two out of three women rocked the Rachel. While those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to Westjetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. I've been really grappling with this, and I'll be honest, I do not have the solution. And I've even been thinking, like, is this something that I need help with? Like a little more help, you know? Like, is it time to talk to a professional?

And I'm wondering that. And it probably is. But see, the thing is, I'll always give that advice to other people. But when it's myself, I'm, you know, much quicker to say, no, no, no, I got this handled. And by the way, that's sometimes true. Maybe I do. But I think I'm having a moment of growth with my mental health maintenance where I'm like, ooh, I'm starting to wonder if I need a little more help with this.

And I don't know if that is the answer or not yet necessarily. or if I'm going to have some sort of epiphany, or I'm going to develop some sort of coping mechanism that's, or not even coping mechanism, but some skill that helps me with this on my own. That's also possible, you know? But I am realizing that the way that I've been managing my mental health challenges is maybe not working anymore.

Like it's almost like the monster inside of my brain has grown. Now I need a bigger sword. And I'm not sure how I'm going to, where I'm going to get that sword. Okay? I'm not really sure what that sword looks like. Is it super long? Does it have a super dramatic handle? Is it more short and minimalist in its style?

You know, like I don't really know right now. But I'm on the precipice. Like I'm on the precipice of like something's got to change. You know what I'm saying? I can't live like this, I'm realizing. and I think admitting that is necessary in growing through it. But I think the problem is I don't really know what to do. Only time will tell, you know, and I'm kind of going to let myself discover the solution

with time, but it's just an uncomfortable period right now where I'm like, ooh, this is a big problem, you know? And it's gotten a bit worse. And I think it getting a bit worse made me realize, okay, I need to figure out how I'm to slay this demon and I need to find my weapon and I don't know what my weapon is. But I will say I'm really working hard right now as I'm in this limbo in this particular area in my life to put myself in uncomfortable positions to encourage more growth. Okay, for example, I'm about to leave for a trip and I'm actually very excited about this trip. You know, it's a work trip, but it's going to be

really fun. And on this particular trip, I'm not going with any of my safety blankets. Okay. I'm not taking my parents. I'm not taking any of my close friends. I'm going pretty much completely alone. And there will be people in my travels that I know and love and am very close to. But like, I'm not going on this trip with anyone, right? Like, there's no one staying down the hall. And on this particular trip. I'm stopping in a few places. And there's no one who's going to be like a consistent person there with me through my travels. And that's been really anxiety-inducing for me, not because I'm worried about being alone. I'm okay with that right now. I've done some work on that because I became very dependent on traveling with others for a little while there. And it kind of

caused anxiety for me. Then I became really anxious about traveling alone because it became unfamiliar and then I encouraged myself to travel alone a few times and I got over that fear and it was very successful and I'm feeling much more comfortable traveling alone. However, on this particular trip that I'm leaving for, I'm struggling with anxiety about, okay, I feel like I'm going to go on this trip and while I'm gone, something bad's going to happen and I'm going to be really far away from home and because I am going to be particularly far away from home. I'm going to Europe. I mean, that always feels kind of jarring to me because it is so far away. You know, it's a 10-hour flight from California where my whole family is and whatever,

and where most of my loved ones are. And for whatever reason, I'm feeling really uncomfortable with that. And I've even considered canceling the trip, honestly. I was like, I don't even know if I want to do this, you know. But there's opportunities, work opportunities that I'm stoked about that I will get to do on this trip. But then my brain is like, well, you being stoked about this trip means that something bad's going to happen. What if something bad happens while you're gone? My brain is having a hard time just enjoying the moment right now in a way that I think is particularly bad.

And so I'm curious to see what happens because I'm not canceling the trip. I'm going to go. And I think what I'm trying to remember is that it doesn't matter if I'm on this trip or not. bad things can happen at any time. Bad things also might not happen at any time. Like it doesn't, I think my brain likes to conflate like, oh, if good things are happening in your life, then that means balance must ensue. And that means bad things must happen too. And that's just not real. That's literally just my anxiety and my OCD fucking with me. It's not real, you know? And I know that this trip is going to be psychologically challenging for me, which sounds ridiculous to say,

because it's like, wow, I'm about to go have like a very one, like I could have a really wonderful time and a very productive time. But instead, my brain is choosing to catastrophize. And as much as I want to just cancel it and stay home and be close to everybody and not go do that, I'm going to go do that. And I think this trip will really help inform me and what my next move is. You know, if I have some sort of epiphany or real growth moment, then, okay, you know, that might be a sign that I'm developing the skills I need to handle it on my own. And if not, then maybe it's time to involve perhaps a professional who can help me with my brain because I'm not, I'm not playing around anymore.

It's gotten to that point now and we'll see what ends up happening. So that's where I'm at with my mental health and well-being. Now, let's discuss where I'm at in my career, okay? I am in a really uncomfortable growth period in my career where it is not clear to me where I want to go next. And I know that there's something. You know what I mean? I feel it in my bones. I'm like, there's something coming next, perhaps.

But I don't know what it is exactly. But I know that it's not anything that I've done before. And I know that because I watch my YouTube videos, for example. I can't even try to listen to my podcast episodes. I do not listen to them. I can't. But like I watch my YouTube videos, for example, and I cringe. Even at like the last video I made a month and a half ago or whatever, two months ago,

even that video I cringe at. And I just made that. I know, like, I'm cringing at everything I've ever done right now, which is a totally normal part of growth, especially in a more creative career, you're going to cringe at stuff when you've outgrown it. And I feel like I've outgrown a lot of what I've done thus far in my career. And I feel like Emma as a 24, almost 25 year old, is ready for the next chapter. But unfortunately for me, I don't know what that is yet.

I really don't know. and I've been trying to figure it out for a few months, but it's not coming to me as quickly as I wish it would. And the most painful part about that is, I'm forced to look back at what I've done before and I'm not satisfied with it. You know, it makes me uncomfortable because I've grown past it.

But then I don't quite know yet what my next form of, say, expression is. I don't really know what it is. I know I'm kind of taught. It sounds like I'm speaking in code. It's so vague. but it's also vague to me. I don't even know what I want to do. Like, listen, I have some ideas kind of percolating in my head, but nothing is solid enough for me to take action. And it's driving me

nuts a little bit, especially as somebody who's super type A, kind of a victim to hustle culture, like struggles with attaching myself worth to my work ethic. That's something I work on. And it's very important to me because that's an unhealthy thing to do. I'm somebody who's, prone to that, right? I have a tendency to fall into that. And I'm struggling because I don't feel like I'm making anything right now. And it's because I don't have any ideas that really feel right. And that's so normal, right? Especially, again, in this particular career path, it's more creative. It's less of a schedule. It's very odd, you know, it's a very odd layout. And I'm aware of that. But I'm struggling because I'm not very productive. I don't feel very productive right now in a way.

Like, I want to make something so bad. Like, I want to make something, you know? And when I say I want to make something, I think for me, ultimately, that is entertainment of some sort, right? I guess some could say that I'm on the internet making entertainment, really. I guess if you were to boil it down. I mean, I think there's a little bit more to it. I think I kind of teeter between entertainment and weirdly like connection and conversation and vulnerability and whatever it's like which isn't necessarily inherently entertaining always but it does serve some sort of purpose in that way I want to make something I want to I have this like I'm burning up I'm burning on the inside like it's burning a hole into me but I don't know what it is yet like I feel like yeah

it's driving me nuts and I feel immense guilt as well too like I think especially on YouTube in particular. Like I, I want to make YouTube videos so bad. And I notice some people, this might sound so fucking stupid. It's like, yeah, then make one, idiot, idiot, make one. Literally make one. Like, what? What are you talking about? I know. I know. It sounds ridiculous. But I feel the most proud of what I'm doing when it's like coming from the right place. And I'm not just making something to make it, but I'm making something and there's some sort of purpose in it for me. And yeah, I'm just not really clear on it all right now. And I don't really know what my next chapter is. And it's been really hard on my self-esteem, honestly, because as I mentioned,

you know, I'm a perfectionist and I attach my sense of self to my productivity at times. There's been somewhat of an ego death in all of this. And again, from the outside looking in, it might not be clear, but I've spent so many days at home, staring at the ceiling, thinking, getting nothing done. And that's a part of this career path. You know what I mean? That is a part of it. If your job is creative, that is inevitable. You're not going to be able to get stuff done all the time. And I know that, but I will say that this particular phase that I'm going through right now has been the longest I think I've ever experienced where I'm just kind of empty. And I think the other thing is too is that I know the truth, which is that when in a phase like this, it's very important

to live life because like not to completely isolate myself and just stare at the ceiling 24-7, right? Okay, maybe like 8-5, no, maybe 8-4, 8 hours a day, four days a week, maybe 24-7, not good, right? As a creative person, you have to live your life in order to find inspiration for things. That's where you find inspiration for things. And that's where you get ideas. And I struggle with that at times. And especially recently, you know, I've really had to force myself to continue to live my life and not just lock myself away until I come up with the ideas I want to come up with. But I know the truth, which is that I need to go out and live my life in order to come up with those ideas. So it's safe to say it's a cluster fuck in my brain right now about that. And listen, again, it's not even like a bad

thing. I know, like, I'm not completely spiraling into oblivion about it, but it's definitely very uncomfortable to feel sort of aimless, to feel like I don't know what my next move is, to feel like I'm not satisfied with anything I've ever made before. And again, it's all a normal part of it, but like an ego death comes from that. An ego death comes from that in a way, you know, I'm forced to sort of really check in right now and make sure that my sense of self is not just coming from my productivity

in my career because I don't feel like I have it all sorted right now, you know? And I will say too, it's interesting because again, like on the surface it might not seem like that because there's a lot of things going on career-wise for me that are like years in the making, things that I've been working on for years

that are just coming out now, which is very exciting. But at the same time, like I'm thinking about what I want to work on next. And I think that's what I'm struggling with, right? Having things come out now that I've been working on for years or whatever, that's awesome. But unfortunately, my brain is like, okay, but you've got to figure out what you're doing next. And that's where I'm sort of confused. And I think I know the answer to this. And it's that I can't force it. I can't force it. I can't force it out of me. I need to be more patient with myself.

And I can't expect the answers to come to me when I'm trying to force them to come to me. And that's just the particular dynamic. That's just the dynamic that comes with any sort of creative job. There are going to be times where you're completely brain empty. And that's where I'm at. I briefly interrupt this episode to let you know that this episode is presented by Venmo. Okay, hear me out. Apparently, you can earn cash back with your Venmo debit card.

All you have to do is join Venmo Stash. in boom, you get cash back when you shop at your favorite brands. It's kind of an awesome flex. With Venmo Stash, you can get up to 5% cash back at your Fave brands. Just pick a bundle of your go-toes to shop with your Venmo debit card and earn cash back at them. And you're free to mix things up. You can easily swap out your bundle of brands every 30 days. Start earning when you do more with Stash.

Venmo Stash Terms and Exclusions apply, max $100 cashback per month. See terms at Venmo.com. Now back to the episode. Next, my social life. I actually will say when I think about my social life, I feel like my social life is actually quite good. Maybe that's one of the only areas right now where I don't feel uncomfortable.

I feel pretty good. I have great friends. I'm making new friends lately that I'm, like, loving. I'm in a really good spot socially. I will say the only thing that's maybe making me a little bit uncomfortable right now. There is a little bit of growth going on in this category. It's just not as obvious as the other categories of my life. I will say one thing that I struggle with is I have a really hard time with not wanting to hang out with people. Let me explain.

Sometimes you meet people and you just get a vibe and immediately you're like, this is somebody I just click with. You know, this is just, for whatever reason, on a cosmic level, somebody that I just connect with. I, like, energetically, it feels light, it feels right, it feels good. And then sometimes you meet people who maybe on the surface are like, honestly super nice, right? But for whatever reason, there's just an energetic disconnect, okay? And sometimes that's because maybe you're sensing something. Maybe there is weird intentions going on with that person. Maybe they have weird intentions with you. Weird motives for wanting to be friends. Maybe you're just getting a sense that their morals or values don't align with yours or like whatever. Like maybe you're too different.

Not that you have to have the exact same morals and values, I guess, as your friends. Like, you know, you can disagree on certain things. I think that is totally possible, depending on the things, of course, in how you feel about them. But yeah, I don't. think you need to agree 100% about everything with your friends. I guess morals and values are pretty heavy and maybe it is more important to be aligned on those things. But I think morals and values are vast and cover almost every single topic of life. And I think it's normal and okay to disagree on a few things here and there. But perhaps, you know, when you get a vibe from somebody who maybe seems really wonderful on the surface, but you get a weird vibe, you get an off vibe,

could be you sensing that maybe there is a fundamental difference between you two that just wouldn't work or like, I don't even know. But sometimes you just get a vibe from somebody and you're like, that just doesn't feel right, even if they're so wonderful on the surface. And see, I have a really hard time, especially in this very social era of my life, where I'm trying to make more friends, trying to be as social as possible, because it's really good for me. And it makes me feel good and makes me happy, and that's kind of what life is about. It's about other people. It's about people. I mean, it's about a lot of things, but I think one of the main things is about connecting with people. Like, that's one of my favorite things in the whole world, you know? I assume you might

agree. I think even introverts find that to be wonderful. I have a really hard time with not trusting my instincts when, like, I get maybe an off vibe from somebody. And maybe I'm like, oh, I don't really like hanging out with them. I don't really know why, but I just don't. I have a really hard time with that, and I feel a lot of guilt and shame about that, and I'll often make plans with people that I maybe get an off vibe from. And then it'll actually cause me a lot of psychological distress. I'll dread the event. I'll get anxious after I hang out with these people because they give me a weird feeling. perhaps like that's something I really struggle with. And when you're in a social phase of your life, exposing yourself to a lot of different types of people, there are going to be instances where

you have conversations with people that maybe give you a slightly off vibe, but maybe they don't get an off vibe from you. And they're like, let's hang out. And you don't necessarily know why, but you're like, I don't really want to. I don't really want to. But see, I feel really bad about that. Really bad about that. And that's something that I'm trying to figure out. And I need. know deep down that there's nothing wrong with just not vibing with somebody. Like, that's totally fine. If somebody doesn't vibe with me, I hope that they don't hang out with me. Like, that doesn't bother me. Like, if I were to put myself in other people's shoes, right? And if I were to find out that say somebody didn't want to hang out with me, yeah, I mean, it's not the best feeling in the world,

okay? But I can handle that. I don't want anyone to hang out with me unless they really want to. but I feel a lot of guilt and anxiety about maybe starting a friendship and then realizing, you know what, this just doesn't feel right. And then backing off. I feel guilty. I feel like I'm judging this person. Not like I'm saying this person, meaning like that's what I say to myself in my head in that moment, not saying that there's like one particular person that I'm talking about.

Yeah, I feel like I'm being overly judgmental. But also too, I can get anxious about distancing myself from the person and then them some way retaliating against me, getting upset, getting angry that I didn't follow through on the friendship and perhaps trying to like sabotage me or ruin my life, like, which is ridiculous, but see, I almost knocked on wood, but I'm trying not to do that anymore because that only makes my OCD worse because my OCD gets very superstitious and I'm really trying to like not do that because it only just exacerbates it. So I almost just knocked on wood and you know what? I'm not doing it. But I think I'm not going to reach my full social potential until I'm not afraid of really

standing in that boundary of like, if I don't want to hang out with somebody, I'm not going to do it. And it's no hard feelings. And the vibe can be totally cool and cordial and wonderful if we bump into each other at a party or something. But like, I don't need to be your bestie. I don't need to be everyone's bestie. I can't be everyone's bestie. And vice versa, not everyone needs to be my bestie.

I don't need everyone to like me, you know? And I've accepted the reverse role, but I think I'm afraid of hurting people's feelings and then them like getting angry and trying to sabotage me. Or like if I maybe told them a vulnerable story, then like going and telling everyone, which is a risk. And again, that's another thing I need to work on. It's like, okay, well, I'm such a vulnerable person.

Maybe I need to be more mindful about how much I divulge about myself and my feelings and my brain early on into a friendship. or relationship because that only makes this anxiety worse. So I guess I thought that I didn't have social growth growing on, but I definitely do now that we've discussed it. Moving on to morals and values and goals, I actually will say, you know what, maybe this is the category of my life where I feel the most solid.

In fact, I actually feel like I'm, I've never been more solid in this area in my life. But I think what's uncomfortable about that is not that I'm, like, confused about what my morals and values are, what my goals are, what I maybe think my purpose is or whatever. I'm not uncomfortable in this area because it's unclear, but rather because it's so clear right now, because it's clearer than it's ever been, I'm looking back at my life and kind of picking it apart, right? remembering so vividly times where I've not aligned with my ultimate morals, values, goals, purpose, self.

You know what I mean? And it's more clear to me than ever the times in my life that I've maybe fucked up or I've done things that don't feel true to me or feel like a, what's the word? Not a divergence. Would it be divergence? Whatever. It's just I'm kind of being haunted by everything I've ever done. because it's so clear to me right now where I stand on these things.

And I think that is something I'm working through. Because by the way, again, it's like Emma, chill, it's so normal. We've all done shit that we now cringe at, that we now are ashamed of, that we now wish we didn't do. Like that is so normal. It's crazy.

Like everybody on this fucking planet has experienced that feeling. I bet there's, billions of people experiencing that right now. It's more common probably to experience that feeling than to not at any given moment. Like I feel like there's probably a 75% chance at any given moment that somebody's kind of cringing at their past or regretting their past, or not even regretting, but feeling ashamed of something they did in their past or whatever. And that's what makes us who we are today. I know all of this is true. But I think there's a recalibration happening for me in a

way where it's like, okay, whoa, I'm feeling really solid in who I want to be, who I am, you know, what matters to me, what's important to me, how I want to carry myself in this world, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is all so clear to me right now. So, so fucking crystal clear that then it's like I'm just feeling a bit haunted by who I've been prior, which again, this kind of goes hand in hand with the career crisis, if you will, where it's like, I need to remember. just because I'm cringing at it now doesn't mean that what I did was even that bad or cringe or

embarrassing or whatever. It's more just that I've grown. It's a sign that I've grown, which I think is actually a beautiful thing. You know, being uncomfortable with what you've done before, what you've made, what you've, whatever, not feeling satisfied with it is a sign that you're growing. And that's wonderful. But it's also uncomfortable. And I think it can be anxiety-inducing as well. And so that's something I'm dealing with. Is that anxiety? You know, how do I accept that I haven't always been at the place that I'm at now? How do I accept that I was once not fully aligned with who I am now? You know? I think in the career category, it's even more complicated because it's like I'm not stoked on what I've done in the past. I'm not feeling proud of it. And that's not to shit on it. It's just, again, it's like a personal discomfort, right? I don't want to continue making things like I've made in the past. not saying that things are going to change in a way that are, that is drastically different even necessarily. But I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't even know what it is. I don't even know what's next. I don't even more challenging because it's like I don't even have anything

to grasp onto in the current moment where I'm like, well, but at least I know what I'm doing next. And at least I feel really confident and inspired by that. I don't feel that way. Yeah, I don't. Whereas at least with like the morals and values and purpose and goals category, I'm pretty aligned there. So it's like I'm more cringing on my past because of how clear I am there. Whereas with the career, it's like I'm cringing at the past and I don't even know what the future is. God, when I know what the future is, I'll probably cringe even more at my past. Maybe not though.

Maybe not though. Maybe I'll be so distracted by what I'm doing in the present moment that it'll sort of erase all shame and embarrassment about what I've made in the past. You don't need AI agents, which may sound weird coming. from Service Now, the leader in AI agents. The truth is, AI agents need you. Sure, they'll process, predict, even get work done autonomously. But they don't dream, read a room,

rally a team, and they certainly don't have shower thoughts, pivotal hallway chats, or big ideas. People do. And people, when given the best AI platform, they're freed up to do the fulfilling work they want to do. To see how ServiceNow puts AI to work for people, visit servicenow.com. One plus one equals more of the greatest stories.

Hulu on Disney Plus Stories about Our survivors Watch Tusk The most dangerous planet Family Retribution Murder

Prophecy Beer and propane The ultimate soldier The Chicago All right The best of the best stories Now with even more from Hulu Amazing

Have it all with Blue on Disney Plus And then the last category Is love In terms of like romance, I would say. And I did sort of just talk about this, actually, so I won't get into it into too much detail. I think the last episode I made was about detachment, particularly in love and romance. The concept of detachment being, you know, being detached enough from a romantic interest

in order to maintain a level of independence and in order to sort of protect yourself in a way, which is something that that's a skill that I think I've newly sharpened, you know, not having expectations in my dating life, right? And that's been really good. I will say in love, romance, dating, etc., I would say the area that I'm being forced to grow in, interestingly enough, is not what you would expect. Like love and romance and dating is, it's all so complicated, right?

But funny enough, I got one of the most challenging parts of it sort of under control right now, and that is keeping a healthy level of detachment, right? Like, detaching just enough to protect myself, right? And that's something I struggled with as a young person, and I have really sorted that out. You would think that that would be something I'd be struggling with more. What I'm struggling with is being single for the first time and being sober, okay? been sober for like a year and a half, maybe a little over a year and a half. I don't drink alcohol anymore. I don't smoke weed. I don't do mushrooms. I'm a sober girl. The only thing I got going on

in my system is caffeine, which we love, and that is awesome, and I will continue to be consuming that. And also a little bit of nicotine here and there. Yep, have not been able to fully quit that one. That one is, that is going to be a lifelong journey for me, it seems. And I'm, smiling only because I'm just disappointed in myself. But I also, you know what? Yeah, those are my, those are my substances. That's all that's running through these veins. Okay. I am sober. When I go out, I'm sober. When I'm on a date, I'm sober. When I'm, you know, talking to a boy, I'm sober. If I kiss a boy, I'm sober. Do you see what I'm saying? Like, I have nothing to hide behind anymore. And you know what's really interesting is that I realized during this single era of mine

that so many of my interactions with guys that I've been interested in, in the beginning, it's been through the lens of alcohol, you know, we're at a party, we're drunk, you know, we're talking, it's like we're vibing because we're drunk, we got, you know, we're loose, whatever, we're relaxed. First kiss, drunk. Do you get what I'm saying? And now it's like, whoa, I have to date sober, sober. And let me tell you, it has been really, really, really scary. Like, if I see a cute guy, it's really tough for me. Do you know what I mean? Like, I'm not going up and talking to them. Like, they need to talk to me. Like, I need somebody to, like, I'm really struggling with that. And I will say, I think I'm getting through it. I'm slowly but surely

building my confidence, facing my fears. Like, it's happening. but I will say that it's been really uncomfortable. I think we take for granted how easy, like how, I don't think we realize how alcohol impacts how we date, how much easier it makes it to just have a conversation with somebody you find attractive, you know?

Like the walls that it breaks down immediately, you know what I mean? You're just immediately, everybody's sort of disarmed, everybody's relaxed. It is so scary to do it sober. And I've been having to do all of this, sober and it has been so uncomfortable. It has been so uncomfortable, but I'm really glad that I'm doing it because I think, you know, I'm actually learning how to date on my own, you know? No, no help. And it's definitely,

I think, going to eventually build my confidence to the point where I'm going to be the, like, most suave motherfucker on the planet. But I think that's been a really uncomfortable thing for me, sort of just feeling like a turtle. Like I feel like I'm a turtle. And every time somebody I think is cute comes around, it's like the head goes in. And again, I will say, I'm not going to divulge too much detail, but I do think I've improved. I've faced some pretty big fears and I'm feeling very good about it. But it doesn't mean that there hasn't been some embarrassing moments, you know, where it's like I'm clearly like nervous and I'm being awkward. And maybe it's not even necessarily noticeable to them, but it's noticeable to me. Ugh. But I'd have to have to.

to get through it. I have to push through it because it is one of my goals to find a partner in my life. I want to love, God damn it. You know, I do. So it's like, I got to push through it. And it's, it's uncomfortable, but it's growth. But that's something to think about is how much alcohol impacts dating. It's a really interesting rabbit hole to go down in your brain if you're somebody who drinks alcohol and, you know, dates a lot. Like, I think sober dating should become a vibe because you know what I'm realizing. Actually, you know what? I want to make a whole episode about that. I'm just topple on my head because I have a lot of thoughts about sober dating. So we'll get into that another day. But it's safe to say I'm going through somewhat of a growth spurt in my life and it's making me

a bit uncomfortable. But I feel really good about it. Even though it is uncomfortable, even though it is kind of painful, I think it's a normal, healthy part of life. And for whatever reason it happens to kind of all be happening all at once, it seems like a lot of growth is happening all at once. It seems like a lot of growth is happening all at once. But that just means that something beautiful is coming. And I, I share this story and I share where I'm at with you all to hopefully, you know, if you're feeling like this, or you've felt like this before, or perhaps you're anticipating that you'll feel this way in the future, I don't know. I think there's something comforting about knowing that this is a very normal feeling, uncertainty, instability, kind of feeling like something's on the precipice. Like, all of this is so

normal and we all feel it sometimes. And so I don't know, that's why I shared it with you, but I don't really have any key takeaways for you. So you can take away whatever you want. But I hope that you enjoyed this episode. And if you did, new episodes of Anything Goes Everyth Goes Every Thursday, we can hang out if you want to join me. Anything Goes Is Anywhere You stream podcasts. I'm on the internet at Emma Chamberlain and my coffee company is Chamberlain Coffee. I love you all. I appreciate you all. Thank you all for hanging out with me. I love you. And I'll talk to you next. week. Goodbye. That was Sabrina Carpenter. Such a good song. Oh, such a good song. Goodbye.

Okay, I can't sing too much or else I get copyrighted. Copyrighted. Okay, love you. Bye.