anything goes with emma chamberlain - i can't talk to people anymore

Episode Date: December 10, 2020

If you’ve been feeling extremely anti-social lately, you’re not alone. Emma is chatting about how quarantine has killed our desires to be social, and why she can only tolerate a handful of people ...right now. Plus, an embarrassing encounter with a celebrity while exercising, and Emma’s parents have been staying with her for over a month and it’s getting a bit…much. And questions on how to fix the school system, and if we should reconsider marriage? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi everybody, welcome back to anything goes. It's me Emma, your host. I just had a sip of sparkling water with apple cider vinegar in it because it's 6 p.m. Oh no, 7 p.m. And I can't have coffee anymore. Because well here's why. I because, well, here's why. I refuse to drink coffee after 4 p.m. now. My friends and I would literally go and get coffee at 7 p.m. a year ago, and my sleep schedule was traumatic. It was terrible. So ever since I fixed my, honestly, again,
Starting point is 00:00:41 I've talked about this before, the one good thing that quarantine has done for me is fix my sleep schedule, which is so weird, because I feel like it should have been the opposite, but I really be going to bed at 10.30. And that has never happened in my whole life. But now I have this genuine fear of fucking up my sleep schedule again.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Like I'm genuinely terrified that I will fuck it up. So no coffee pass for no waking up later than nine. Those are just the rules. And it's been working really well for me. I don't know what got me into this routine, but now I can't imagine going to bed later than 10.30. Like I'm addicted to going to bed at 10.30 and waking up at like 7.30.
Starting point is 00:01:29 It's the best shit I've ever done for my life. Which might seem dramatic, but I really think it changed my life. Am I still a little bit depressed? Yes, but if I was waking up later, I think it would be worse. So I think that it's been very helpful. It's really nice to wake up and just have the peaceful morning to myself. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I don't know why I didn't ever do it earlier, but I also think that it might have been my hormones as a teen. Like every teenager I know cannot wake up comfortably before 10. And I think that you grow out of it because I like, I think I literally grew out of it this year. I think I must have hit some sort of puberty
Starting point is 00:02:12 of some sort that made me able to wake up early and go to bed early. I think, because I used to try when I was younger, like in my early to mid to slightly late teen years, I used to try to fix my sleep schedule. It wasn't possible, and nobody that I knew none of my friends could figure it out either. But now that I'm older, I feel like I'm able to do it.
Starting point is 00:02:38 When before, like nothing could fix my sleep schedule. So, I don't know. Be patient. If you're in between like 12 and 17, just be patient. I think your sleep schedule will get better with age. Why? Okay. Frankie is yelling at me through the door. I'm going to open, watch what's going to happen. I'm going to open the door. I'm going to be like, come on in Frankie. If if you wanna hang out, if you're whining at me, you're gonna, don't you wanna hang out?
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'm gonna open the door, she's not gonna come in, I'm gonna close it and then she's gonna keep whining. Let's see what happens. Okay, update, I am an asshole because she did come in and now she's sitting on my lap. Sorry, Frankie, for that. Anyway, the next thing I want to talk about, I don't even know what I just talked about,
Starting point is 00:03:28 but I need to have a hard to hard with you guys, and I know, I know. Emma, you just have a hard to hard every week. Correct, that is correct. But really, I think we need to have another one. Because it's really what's on my mind. Like, I think we need to have another one. Because it's really what's on my mind. Like I have so many things on my mind, like so many specific things on my mind
Starting point is 00:03:53 that are troubling me in a sense. And they're getting in the way of me being able to, like I feel bad, like talking about shit that's bothering me because I'm like, fuck, I don't wanna be a Debbie Downer. I that's bothering me because I'm like, fuck, I don't wanna be a Debbie Downer. I said this last episode, I'm pretty sure. But like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Okay, these are the things that are on my mind and I'm just gonna be unapologetic about it. The first issue that I've been having recently and I don't know if it's the quarantine effects or like what, I cannot, cannot be around people anymore or speak to people at all, not on the phone, not over text and definitely not in person. I have literally lost.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I had a feeling that this would happen because I remember when this first started, I was like, are we all gonna like lose our social skills? Well, I think I did. I literally think I did. I think I've lost part of my social savviness. I used to be so outgoing, very extroverted. I always wanted to go like, if there was a party, I was there. If there was whatever. And throughout this quarantine, it's completely drifted away and went away. I literally cannot speak to anybody.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And this is like, there's more to it. Like when I do speak to people, I get awful anxiety. And I used to never get anxiety from hanging out with people. I could hang out with anyone, a fucking stranger off the street and be fine and have fun with it and enjoy it. I literally can, there are maybe four people that I can tolerate talking to right now
Starting point is 00:05:37 and I cannot talk to anybody else. And I feel bad about it. Okay, maybe five or six, total in my whole life that I can talk to comfortably and not be anxious about it or uncomfortable. It's really weird because I've never in my life. I haven't felt like this in many years because I feel like I really came out of my shell. When I moved L.A. like a few years into living here, I really came out of my shell. I just crawled right on back in. And I'm in a different way though,
Starting point is 00:06:08 because I think before I wanted to be social, but I was timid and not confident. Now, I feel more confident, but I just really, really don't wanna speak to anybody. Like, I can't respond to texts. People text me, they're like, how are you doing? I can't respond. I don't text me, they're like, how are you doing? I can't respond.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I don't know why. I do not know why. I think it's because I have nothing to say, maybe. I'm like, I'm doing good. Like I'm doing the fucking same. I was four months ago. Why are you, like, I have nothing new to say, you know? So I just don't respond to that.
Starting point is 00:06:39 If people want to have FaceTime, or even hang out in person, if it's safe and makes sense, I will make up excuses until I'm blue in the face. Like I cannot, I don't want to FaceTime. I will decline every call and make an excuse for every hangout. I cannot do it. This has really gotten especially bad over the past month and a half. It's always been bad, but now it's like at a whole new level.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I literally cannot speak to anybody, see anybody. I just want to see a few people talk to a few people, and that's it. I feel really bad. There's so many people that I'm neglecting in my life, but I mentally cannot speak to them, hang out with them, talk to them in any capacity. I don't have the energy for it,
Starting point is 00:07:27 and I'd rather just be by myself in my room, or with the six select people that don't bother me, two of them being my parents. It's sad, it's really sad and weird. Like, I used to crave hanging out with people. I was really such a social butterfly before and I didn't even realize it in the moment because I don't know, I just like,
Starting point is 00:07:51 I loved meeting new people, I loved making new friends. I mean, I was of course, you know, again, I was always hesitant to meet new people because I was scared, but if I ended up liking them, it was great, like going to parties, I loved, I loved always hesitant to meet new people because I was scared, but if I ended up liking them, it was great. Going to parties, I loved. I loved going to parties. It was one of my favorite things to do.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And not even like I ever got invited to them, but once every two months when it would happen, I was psyched. A birthday party, I was there. I was looking forward to it all week. Like, I used to look forward to social events, used to get excited. I literally, the thought of even going to Coachella scares me.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And that's my favorite time of the year. I mean, I'm excited for Coachella when that happens again. Don't get me wrong. I'm very excited because I want to see all the music and hang out with my select six people that I like, except for two of them are my parents when they would not be there. But you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm excited to go to social events like Coachella
Starting point is 00:08:46 just so I can do fun things with my people that don't bug me. Not even like the people that I don't respond to or that I'm ignoring bug me, they don't bug me. It's not their fault, it's not personal at all. It has nothing to do with them. I just can't, I have a mental block socially. And I don't know what it is. I can't explain it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's so bizarre. I don't really feel like this has happened much ever in my life. I'm normally somebody that actually really likes attention. And so normally, like, getting texts from people asking me how I'm doing or asking me to hang out would be like my dream. But right now, no, like, I really, I really genuinely hate it and I want everybody to leave me alone, but I also feel like that's so mean and also nobody's done anything wrong to me. I have absolutely no reason to be not speaking to anybody right now.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I don't have a reason. And I think that that's what bugs me the most. I don't have a reason. I don't have an excuse. It just, it makes me upset and anxious, which I guess is a valid enough excuse, but it's a hard thing to explain to people because there's so many people I want to text right now and be like, I'm sorry that I am being a flaky friend
Starting point is 00:09:58 or not checking in on you. I just literally can't, I can't do it. And I don't know why it's so bizarre. I'm, honestly, I can't do it. And I don't know why, it's so bizarre. I'm honestly, I'm genuinely curious about why. If somebody could explain to me why I'm feeling like this, I would love that, I have no idea. It's so bizarre. And so, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I don't think it's a bad thing. I don't think it's wrong of me. It's not like I'm ghosting like my best friends. It's all people that I've like, you know, it's nobody that I'm super close with. It's all like the type of friend that you see every few months. But I've really been neglecting those friendships all year and then now it's piling up and now everybody is getting mad at me. But it's not personal.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I just can't do it. It sucks, it really does suck. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. There's no instruction manual when it comes to being an adult. Sometimes I lay away at night rehashing something I said earlier that day, or I lay in bed at night thinking about what the future holds.
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Starting point is 00:12:37 or like elderly person about it for advice, so I don't really know if this is a good or bad thing, but if I feel to play devil's advocate here, if I feel best when I'm either talking to or around the six people that I can be around or just being by myself, and that's what's working for me, I need to just honor that and not question it, but it is bizarre that it's happening.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I think a big part of it too is that I have a lot of things that I'm, like, this is gonna sound so fucking annoying, but there's a lot of things that I, I wanna, I need to do for my own, like, I need to like exercise every day. That's a number one priority over being social. Because if I don't exercise, then I don't release endorphins and I feel like shit.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Even if it's just a little walk to a coffee shop near me, something, anything, I'll do anything, that's super important to me. Or like, fucking like, I don't know, getting my work done at a reasonable hour, that's more important to me. I'd rather just do that stuff than be social. I don't wanna be social right now.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I'd rather do do that stuff than be social. I don't want to be social right now. I'd rather do things for me and be lazy and bad if I want. I don't want to have to like, also I guess there's, you know, oh my God, I wonder if it's this too. You know what, I might just have had a nip-ip-ip-ip-ni. My dad has mentioned before that he doesn't really like having friends just to hang out with them in talk.
Starting point is 00:14:07 He likes having friends that he can do stuff with. For example, he's an artist, so he'll go out and he'll paint with his friends. That's like doing an activity with a friend and it's not like you're accomplishing something, it's productive. I think the idea right now of going and hanging out at somebody's house and watching a movie, like that to me seems like such a waste of fucking time, but that's pretty much all we can do right now.
Starting point is 00:14:34 It's not like I could go shopping with a friend, really. It's not like I could go to dinner with a friend right now. It's not like I could go to some sort of like fun, pottery thing. Like most things are closed right now. So in LA, especially. So there's nothing productive to do with others. I mean, there probably is, but it feels like there isn't.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And I think that that's what's so uninspiring about it to me. It's like, if somebody just wants me to come over and watch a movie with them, I'm not gonna do it. Like, I just don't wanna do that. That's the last thing I wanna do. Or come over and like, sit around on the couch and like, talk shit about people. Like, I don't know, like, that's all people do.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I just, it doesn't sound good to me. I just don't wanna do it. So, it's not personal to anybody. I just literally mentally can't do it. And the thought of like what I would be doing with said people is even worse to me. Like all of those things would just give me anxiety. And so I will stick to the few people that I can handle being around at this time. Try not to question it. It's probably normal and move on.
Starting point is 00:15:52 But that's something that's been really weighing heavily on me because I feel guilty about it for one. But for two, it's kind of concerning because I'm like, what's wrong with me? Like I've lost my social spark, you know? I don't really have the motivation to have a conversation with anybody anymore. I'm kind of happy in my own brain, but like, not in a good way, though.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Like, it maybe it's a good thing. Maybe it's even just me becoming mature and this would have happened anyway. But I just don't have interest in like having conversations with other people. Like I, I, there's, I don't see a point to it, which is not good, because I think there is something to be said for being social
Starting point is 00:16:32 and talking to others and learning more about other people's lives and their point of views. But right now, that just sounds so unappealing and pointless to me. I also think the other thing is too, a lot of people, a lot of people are really negative right now. Hello, me right now being slightly negative. And it's like, I don't wanna have a conversation
Starting point is 00:16:52 about some negative shit for an hour and just get more sad when I could watch cooking videos in my bed by myself or with one of the six people that I don't want to cut out of my life at this time. And I could enjoy it with them. And like not, I just, I don't know. There's like this weird limbo for me with like, these people that I've like known forever,
Starting point is 00:17:16 but I just can't follow through with the plans anymore. Like I just, I can't do it. And let me know if you guys are feeling the same way. You can tweet me at AG podcast. And let me know if you guys are feeling the same way. You can tweet me at AG Podcasts. Let me know if you can relate to that at all because it's been making me feel really weird and off and it's so out of character. And I'm curious to see if anybody else has been feeling the same way. Another thing, I kind of talked about how I've been trying to exercise to keep me in a good spot in my head.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And it has been helping. I took a little break from it because I just kind of got sick of it for a little bit. And I was like, I'm just not in my workout grind. Like, I just don't really feel it right now. So I stopped for a little bit. But I'm slowly getting back into running outside. And, but here's my issue.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I have this, like, I hate running in my neighborhood because there's so many people around. Like, there's so many people running. There's so many people walking around, like walking to coffee shops in the area, stuff like that. And I hate it because of a few reasons. Number one, I don't know what I look like when I run. And in middle school, I never thought about the way that I ran, but then one time in middle school, somebody was like, am I, you run so weird?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Anyway, that stuck with me permanently, and I've never wanted to run in front of anybody ever again, which is ironic, because they did cross-country and track in high school. But I think at that point, I just gave up. But still, I have a very large phobia of somebody watching me run. So the fact that there's been so many people out and about,
Starting point is 00:18:57 like trying to get their fresh air during all of this has been extremely upsetting to me, because I, I know I'm never gonna see these people again, but the fact that there's so many people around seeing me run potentially in a weird way, which I've never found out for sure because I refuse to film myself running
Starting point is 00:19:12 because I don't wanna know. There's just an anxiety there for me. But it was funny because the other day I was on a run and I saw a famous comedian at a coffee shop. That made me anxious. I made eye contact with him. And I was like, really, I was like, fuck, he's probably gonna write a whole entire
Starting point is 00:19:36 comedy special about how bad my running looks. So, keep your eyes out for the next Kristelia special when it comes out on Netflix of him probably talking about how I run like a chicken. Can't wait. They was Kristelia or Delia, I don't know how to say his name. And we did make eye contact.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And that was my worst nightmare coming true. And then actually funny story. Right after I saw him, I continued to run. And I was running past a high school. And it was the weekend, it was a Sunday. And then I look over and I realize, oh my God, every Sunday, this high school holds is the venue for a flea market.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And in LA, a flea market, it's like a thrift, it's like one big thrift store that's outdoors. It's almost like a farmer's market, but for vintage clothing or homemade clothing, anything like that. And a bunch of people my age go there to to shop. I mean I go there to shop. It's super fun. I forgot that the flea market was happening, but I'm like running and I realized I was about to run past it. I do a full 180 and I'm like, okay, I can't run the other way because if
Starting point is 00:20:57 I run the other way, I'll run past Mr. comedian again. If I go straight, I have to go down this alley that's kind of scary, so I don't want to do that. But if I keep running, then I'm going to run past the flea market where there's a bunch of people my age, and there's nothing scarier than a bunch of people your age seeing you run while they're out with their friends shopping. There's something so vulnerable about that. And let me tell you, I'm in no spot to be vulnerable right now. So I decided to run down the alley. This is a true story.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I can't believe I didn't like think to bring this up. Like I only remembered the comedian element, but this whole entire run was traumatizing. So I decided to go down the alley, and I'm running down the alley. And there was some people in there, and it was very, it was a wide alley, like very wide. Like not narrow, like a dark alley, it was like pretty wide.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Like two cars could fit driving down it at the same time. So pretty wide. There's a guy walking down a little channel of the alley. Like he was whatever. There's basically a guy in the alley holding two baseball bats. And he wasn't facing me. He was walking the other way. But I was very frightened of that.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It was a terrible experience, to be honest. but at the same time, it's like, I need to go get that fresh air, I'll lose my marbles. But the thing is that you see in Los Angeles when you try to go for a peaceful run. I need to find like a good area that has a bunch of nature. Like, I need to find a good nature area at some point that I could run in to escape the city element. Because why am I running in the city? God only knows. I don't, it's just not smart. Anyways.
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Starting point is 00:25:59 To get started, visit BetterHelp.com slash anything today to get 10% off your first month. That's better help.com slash anything. More of what's been going on in my life. My mom visited me for five weeks in LA. She was here for five weeks. And right when she left, my dad decided to come visit. so I have officially been Living with at least one of my parents at a time for six weeks. I'd love to talk about How that's going for me um I
Starting point is 00:26:40 Think I need my alone time. I love my parents so much. I love them so much. But I really, really need my alone time. And I took it for granted. I did. And it's been a little bit tough because you don't realize the little things. It's like, when I'm in the kitchen and I'm cooking and my parents are in there,
Starting point is 00:27:08 and they're like getting in my way, as dumb and stupid and petty as it seems, stuff like that makes me tense, right? And it's part of living with another person. When somebody's staying with you, and somebody's living with you, when you live with somebody in general, those things are going to happen. They're normal. But living with somebody else, for some people, is great, but for me, it makes me very tense. It's like waking up in the morning or like getting
Starting point is 00:27:41 out of the shower and having like close all my doors and close all my windows so that nobody sees me. Those types of things all make me very tense. I feel like I'm, I'm not, I don't, I have like the freedom. I can't just walk around naked if I want, like stuff like that. And not that I even do that anyway, but it's like the fact that I can't make me tense. And so I think that the fact that I haven't had any alone time
Starting point is 00:28:01 for six weeks straight is kind of making me lose my marbles a little bit. And I'm very much ready to get my alone time back. It's been very eye-opening. And it just made me realize how like, I don't know how I'm ever going to live with anybody ever. That's not true. Maybe it's when it's your parents, it's a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Cause I've never had a roommate, so I don't know what that would be like. But then again, I've like had sleepovers with my friends for weeks on end, and that's always been fine and different. I think there's something about having your parents around where you constantly feel like you need to be on your best behavior. The kitchen always has to be clean.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Your room always has to be organized. It's almost like you live at home again, you know? So maybe that's why it's so, it can be so anxiety-provoking. But at the same time, if I really think about it, I'm glad I get to even spend time with my parents. So I feel like a bitch saying that it's making me tense, but that's the honesty of the situation.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I feel like most kids get really anxious when they're living with their parents. And that's why as scary as becoming an adult is scary as it is to become an adult, being able to move out of your parents' home is one of the best feelings ever. And I really think that if any of you guys are fearing that right now or whatever, it's really not that bad and it actually is probably better than you think. I mean, at least in my opinion, I really love it. I love living alone, I love having my own space.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And if any of you are fearing it, I would say, don't, because I think it's a really great thing. And I also think that it makes my relationship with my parents better. I've actually found that it's weird. I don't really hang out with my parents much when they visit me, but when they're not here, I'm calling them all day long.
Starting point is 00:29:50 All day long, I'm calling them literally six times a day, each parent, when they're not here, but when my parents are here, I don't talk to them all day. Like maybe during meals and that's it. And I don't know what it is, it's so interesting. Whatever the psychology is of that, I'm curious, I don't know what it is. It's so interesting. Whatever the psychology is of that, I'm curious. I don't know, but so weird. Anyway, my dad will probably be leaving in a few days
Starting point is 00:30:10 and I'll have my alone time back. And we'll see how that affects my anxiety and overall mental health in general. I'm very curious to see if maybe it'll be better for me or maybe it will be worse, god only knows, but I'll keep you guys updated. The last topic I've written down for today is something that's been happening to me so much and it's literally bugging me so
Starting point is 00:30:30 bad. Okay so no. There is one person that I follow on Instagram. They're a friend. And I am the first one to view their Instagram story. I swear to God every single time they post a story. And I don't know why this is. I literally, every time I open Instagram, the first thing I do is click on stories to see like that first before I look on the feed. And I'll click the first story,
Starting point is 00:31:00 and then it'll go and play through all of them, whatever, whatever, you guys know how Instagram works. Every time I go on Instagram, this person has posted a new story and I am the first viewer I swear to God like I'm talking about 30 seconds after they post it I almost want to mute them because I'm so embarrassed and I know that they're seeing it But we're not that close like we're close But we're not close enough to a point where I can be like dude. I'm viewing I, I am your first view on every story. Like, we're not there yet, so it's like, I couldn't bring it up, but yet I know that they're seeing it, and it's, I know it's probably an elephant
Starting point is 00:31:35 in the room, and it makes me so uncomfortable, but I don't know why I'm having that coincidence. And do you know what's funny about it too? This person doesn't post a lot on their stories. They'll maybe post two stories a day, maybe three or four. I am literally seeing it one minute after it's posted every single time. I think I'm going to mute him. I'm serious because I'm getting embarrassed. It's fucked. I'm mortified. So I don't know what's happening with that, but like, does he think that I, oh, like see, then I could go down a whole path about it. Number one, I mean, there's a chance he's not seeing it. And that's great.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I love that chance. Like I love thinking about that. I love thinking that there's a great chance that he isn't even noticing. But on the off chance that he's seeing it, like I might as well block him. Like I, oh, it hurts my body to think about. Anyway, now is the time of the episode where
Starting point is 00:32:36 I'm going to talk about what you guys would like me to talk about. Okay, the first thing you guys wanted me to talk about was how fucked up the school systems are. I completely agree. I mean, you didn't really, you made a statement there. You said that the school systems are fucked up. I completely agree. I especially think right now it's even worse, and I don't, I hate to put an opinion in about something without having a solution for it. Like I hate to say that the whole Zoom classes things
Starting point is 00:33:13 isn't working, but then not propose a solution because I don't have one, I don't know. That's kind of just what we're, I guess that's the cards we were dealt and we just have to deal with it. But at the same time, I don't think it's working. Like I don't know because I'm not in school right now, but just from talking to my family members
Starting point is 00:33:35 that are still in school, or even when I have talked to some of my old home friends that are in college right now, everybody's like, I'm not learning anything. Like I haven't learned anything since COVID started. Like nothing. And I mean, I bet there are some people that are learning stuff, but like a lot of people can't focus staring at a screen all day. My thing is I wonder what would be a better solution. Part of me even thinks that it would be better solution. Part of me even thinks that it would be better to cut the workload in half and then give kids the time to like find things that they're passionate about. You know, I feel like the school system in general, it takes up so much of your time because it's so rigorous,
Starting point is 00:34:22 usually at least in my experience, that there's no time to find a passion in life. Not only that, but there's no energy left. You work so hard at school and sports and extracurriculars and stuff like that. But by the time that the day is over, you have no energy or inspiration left to find a passion or to find anything that you care about, which is why if you're struggling to find something
Starting point is 00:34:43 that you care about or to find something that you're passionate about and you're worried about your future because you think that it's your fault that you don't know what you're passionate about yet. Don't ever be mean to yourself about that because the school system and the way that it's set up is not in favor of you finding something that you're passionate about by any means. It is such an energy suck and it's so much work to a point that you can barely even grow your social skills because you have no time to be social unless you wanna fail your classes.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Like, it's always a give and take. It's like, if you wanna be social, you're probably gonna fail some of your classes. If you wanna do both, you're never gonna sleep. If you wanna get really good grades and get sleep, no social life. There's always something got to give. And that's just not a good system. Not to mention so many people that I know are so smart, but they never did well in school.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And now they're so successful. Why? Because they like decided that school wasn't working for them and that they wanted to learn in other ways. And I'm not saying that school is not important. I think it's very important. And I think I learned a lot in those years about so many different things,
Starting point is 00:35:59 how to be reliable, because I always had to turn in homework in a way. So like I always was, you know, learning how to be on time with shit like that was really important. Oh my God, I can see my neighbor through my window. Oh my God, that's so awkward. I need to close my window. Oh my God. Wow, was that weird.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I literally just looked out of my window and I could see into my neighbor's window and they were in the bathroom. And I just felt like I shouldn't have been looking. And also if he saw me sitting in my closet on the floor, that wouldn't really look so good either. So windows are closed now. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That wouldn't really look so good either. So windows are closed now. Anyway. Fuck, what was I talking about? Oh, I did learn really important things in school. How to, you know, be timely for things. It taught me how to have a schedule, waking up every day at the same time, turning in assignments on time.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Like it taught me about that. And, you know, it also taught me basic knowledge that I needed to know. And I think that all of that is so important. But I think that when you're in the later years of high school and even in college, that's when things start to get a little bit blurry for me. I think at a certain point, school starts to get to a point
Starting point is 00:37:24 where it's like, it's not helping as much anymore. Like I would say up until sophomore year for me, everything was very necessary. All the math that I learned in that, I feel like all of that was useful. Geometry though was not. Geometry, I've never used that again. It taught me critical thinking in a way. I don't even know what critical thinking means, but I feel like it probably taught me that. Like it taught me about how to think outside
Starting point is 00:37:48 of the box in certain ways, which I think that is, I think that that's good. There's so many ways you can look at it. I think that the more that you learn the better, it'll make your brain stronger, it'll make you a better learner, and it'll make you a more well-rounded person. I don't see a problem with learning, but I think that there's too much. I almost think that they should spread out the high school curriculum and not allow people to do honors classes and stuff and like force people to just take the normal math, science, et cetera. Everybody has to take the normal stuff, which will be potentially less challenging. But that would give students more time to take classes about other stuff that they find interesting
Starting point is 00:38:39 or take classes about how to pay taxes. Do you see what I'm saying? Instead of forcing kids to take these crazy math and science class, I guess that's, do you know what, but that doesn't really work either. Because like some people really want to take crazy science classes because they want to do science for their job. It's just, it's so messy and it's so not an easy answer.
Starting point is 00:39:00 And I think that that's the problem. But there's no doubt that it's flawed. You know what I mean? There's no doubt that it's flawed. You know what I mean? There's no doubt that it's flawed. I think that in some way the workload needs to be cut by like 30%. Because I think that the workload really gets in the way of kids becoming who they are, having their own identity.
Starting point is 00:39:23 People just end up conforming to whatever they're seeing around them because they don't have time to critical think about their own identity. People just end up conforming to whatever they're seeing around them because they don't have time to critical think about their own life. They're too busy critical thinking about a fucking essay. They don't have time to think about themselves. I had no brain when I was in high school. I literally thought about schoolwork, boys, and like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I thought about nothing. I didn't think about anything I was interested in and I had no passions. I did like competitive cheerleading, which was fun. But like that was an extracurricular activity. That wasn't even, that was like put in front of me. Like I, it wasn't like I was doing anything for me. And I still struggle with that to this day,
Starting point is 00:39:57 but I think that the workload's just too much, at least from my personal experience. Somebody said, please talk about quarantine. I really need to relate to somebody. If I'm being completely honest with you guys, and I know, I didn't wanna talk about this, I didn't wanna get into it, but it's been the number one thing on my mind
Starting point is 00:40:24 for the last month or so. And it's the fact that I literally have no thoughts left. And I know I've been saying that for months, but I have no thoughts left. I have no opinions. I have no thoughts. I have no passion for anything. I have nothing left in my brain. My brain empty brain. My brain empty.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Brain broke and is empty. And I feel bad talking about it and I feel bad saying it because everybody's agreeing. But like, I literally feel empty. It's not even necessarily sadness. I mean, I've been struggling with depression over the past few months and that's whatever. But like, besides that, even when I'm in a moment of where that's not even bad, I have no thoughts. I have nothing, I'm not excited about anything.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I have no emotion, I just feel blank. Nothing jars me, nothing surprises me, nothing excites me, nothing scares me. I'm just in a moment of like numbness like I'm completely numb to everything I feel nothing and It's so and it makes it really hard for me because The whole point the whole reason why I am where I am and I I worked Whatever the reason why I'm a fucking YouTuber or the reason why I have this podcast
Starting point is 00:41:46 is because I share opinions and I share feelings and I share the truth and how I feel about stuff and I share funny stories and I like connect with you guys in that way. I can't connect with fucking anything right now because I have no thoughts. No thoughts. It's completely bizarre.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And so that's like really a bummer for me right now because I'm like holy shit, like I genuinely don't think about anything. Like I just do the daily tasks that I need to do and then I go to bed at 10.30 and I wake up and do it again. I'm in a limbo of this whole thing. It's, I mean, I know that we've all been saying for months that we've just been living
Starting point is 00:42:26 the same day over and over again, but I'm like, now it's at a point where it's like, I feel like I was pretty resilient to it at first because I had things exciting me. Like, I had, you know, I don't know, there were things that were exciting to me, but now everything's just like, evened out. Everything's calm.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Nothing is jarring, nothing's exciting. I'm just like, blank in my brain. And I know a lot of you guys are probably probably feeling like that too. It sucks. I know it'll pass when things start happening again. It'll feel good. But I feel like all I do is work, sleep, eat, work out. That's it. And it's like, again, what I said in the last episode, the quote from the shining, all work, no play makes Jack a dull boy. I feel very dull and empty because there's just nothing,
Starting point is 00:43:16 I have no stories to tell. Nothing funny or crazy happens to me during the day, do the same thing all day. It's an extremely bizarre sensation. And it sucks. But at the same time, we're gonna get through it. This is all temporary.
Starting point is 00:43:36 It's hard to feel like that. But this is temporary. And I know that because I've gone through phases throughout this quarantine of feeling like that. But also I've gone through phases in life where I felt really depressed, really, really bad, just awful. But then the next week, I feel so much better. And I know that this is going to be the same thing for all of us.
Starting point is 00:43:57 And that's that. Okay, the last thing I'm going to talk about, somebody asked me if I believe that marriage is necessary. Have I talked about this? See, I feel like I'm gonna talk about, somebody asked me if I believe that marriage is necessary. Have I talked about this? See, I feel like I've talked about everything. Like, I feel like I've talked about everything I've ever felt. Every opinion I've ever had, like I feel like I've touched on everything
Starting point is 00:44:17 in this podcast at least once, and that's why I'm like desperate. I'm like, can someone like pee on my front lawn or something? Like someone just do something out of pocket, but also I don't want that. But also, I want a story, I want to be able to tell people stories, I love calling people and be like,
Starting point is 00:44:34 oh my God, you'll never guess what happened. Or coming on here and be like, you'll never guess what happened. And that hasn't happened to me in a while because literally I live the same day every day and that's it. But I do think that this is an interesting question in my opinion on it constantly changes, so I thought I would talk about it to end off this episode.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I am so conflicted because here's my thing about it. On one hand, I feel like marriage is not necessary because I think that there's a lot of complications with marriage. Like financially it can be kind of weird. Like some people, a lot of people are becoming more independent. Like my generation, I feel like, is so independent and not as traditional. And so like the idea of combining a bank account, I think, is a lot less obvious to my generation than it would be to say the older generation.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Also when it comes to like the legality of marriage, I feel like a lot of people don't really care about that. Not to mention open relationships and stuff like that is becoming a lot more popular. I don't know if it's always been popular, but I feel like maybe just because I'm getting older and hearing more about adult stuff, I'm hearing about things like that.
Starting point is 00:45:41 But then again, when I talk to my grandparents, it doesn't really sound like that was a thing. But there's just so many different ways to look at relationships now that I feel like with marriage, it's a less obvious choice, and there's a lot less obvious benefits. Like the idea of combining a bank account with a guy, like that's scary, I don't trust anybody.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Like, what if that motherfucker went in and stole everything and divorced me and killed me or something and took out a life insurance on me and then killed me? I don't know. That's why marriage scares me. Because I'm like, I don't trust anybody. And also, I'm getting it probably get married,
Starting point is 00:46:17 which I'll explain why in the next part of this answer. But that's why I feel like marriage is so much less, it's also expensive. Having a wedding is so expensive, and doing all of the documents for getting married, it's just like, I think to a lot of people, especially in my age group, it just seems unnecessary when you could just have a lifelong partner,
Starting point is 00:46:38 that you know is your partner, and where there's a lifelong agreement there. I think the reason why marriage can be beneficial and where there's a lifelong agreement there, I think the reason why marriage can be beneficial is for the official bonding legally together that solidifies that you're gonna be together forever. It's like a promise. I think that for me, marriage is necessary, can be seen as necessary because it's a promise
Starting point is 00:47:09 to be with that person forever. I feel like there's something, you're gonna work harder to keep the relationship alive if you're married rather than if you're just partners because if you're married, there's like a lot more fucking weight there, like you're just partners, because if you're married, there's like a lot more fucking weight there. Like you're sharing a bank account possibly. You are legally in the record as married.
Starting point is 00:47:34 If you want to get divorced, if you want to break up, it's not just like, oh, we're broken up verbally. It's like, okay, this is actually something that needs to be dealt with. Like through, you know, like, it's a serious thing. We're just breaking up with somebody. You can just say, buy and then you can get back together. There's something comforting about the idea of marrying somebody and knowing that like, if we want to end this, like, it gives you hope that you would work hard before you just ended it.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Because there's more riding on it when you're married. And I think that that's something that's really important for if you start a family, because then you're going to fight harder, you know, to keep the marriage together for your kids. Obviously, divorces still happen 50% of the time, but you know what I mean. And I don't know. Like I just think that there's a promise that's made with marriage that isn't made anywhere else. And that just might be me or like what I've witnessed from other people, but I think that
Starting point is 00:48:33 that's why it's so powerful. And I think that that's why I'm gonna get married at some point, just because I want to have a family, I want to experience marriage because my parents got divorced. I'm to be completely honest with you. I'm curious about it. But I also, it's something I want to experience in my life before I die. But I also am like, okay, but if I ended up finding a lifelong partner and had a kid with them and had a family with them,
Starting point is 00:49:00 like, what's the fucking difference? So I don't know. Like, that's the question of the day. Is it necessary? I don't know, but that's my input. Anyway, I love you guys. Thank you guys for listening to me. I really appreciate hanging out with you and I love you all so much. And I will talk to you next week.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Be safe. Stay sane. We can do this. And I love you all. Muah! Bye! Bye!

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