anything goes with emma chamberlain - is it time to move on? advice session

Episode Date: July 20, 2025

[video available on spotify] welcome back to advice session, a series here on anything goes, where you send in your current dilemmas or anything you want advice on, and i give you my unprofessional advice. today's topic is relationships, and more specifically, when it’s time to move on from one. Find trending summer looks at Walmart. Members save up to 20% on hotels at Hotels.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome back to Advice Session, a series here on Anything Goes, where you send in your current dilemmas or anything, and I mean anything you want advice on. And then I give you my unprofessional advice. And today's topic is one that we know and we love, relationships. But more specifically, when it's time to move on from a relationship, which is an incredibly challenging dilemma because it's really hard to think clearly in a relationship, which is an incredibly challenging dilemma because it's really hard to think clearly in a relationship. When you're in love or you think you're in love, it's really hard to think straight. At least that's been my experience. It's actually mortifying

to me when I look back at all of my past relationships, how much shit I let slide. Because I was in love or I thought I was in love and I made excuses for them. And I had made up my mind that this was my soulmate and I wasn't going to give up. And so, you know, I would almost turn a blind eye to stuff that they were doing that was terrible. Like, it's so hard to honestly analyze a relationship when you're in it. It's so challenging. But today I'm going to be giving advice on it. Even though I can't say for sure it's something that I won't do again, but I'd like to believe that I'm a realist in relationships now. Like I've gone into enough relationships being like, this is my soulmate. They can do no wrong. We're getting married. I can't wait for our wedding. I'm going to

wear a beautiful dress, long sleeve, but kind of off the shoulder. It's going to have no sparkles because I don't like that stuff. Maybe a little bit of lace. I'm going to have a super long veil. Maybe we'll get married in Cape Cod or something, or maybe something local like California vibes. Like, I've done that enough. And then because I've become so dedicated to the idea of like, this is my person, that then I've made excuses for them throughout the entire relationship. And then at the end, become mortified that I did that. I've done that enough times now in my life that I really am crossing my fingers that it's not going to happen again,

but I can't make any promises. But I'm going to give advice on it anyway. And I'm going to be listening to myself while I give this advice because sometimes I need to hear my own advice. Anywho, let's dig in, shall we? I briefly interrupt this episode to let you know that this episode of Anything Goes is presented by Walmart. Summer's back, baby, which means a whole new wardrobe. Thankfully, you can find trends that speak to you for less at Walmart.

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to the episode. Somebody said, I've been with my partner since freshman year in college. And now that I'm a senior, I feel like I might have missed out. What do I do? Well, to start, I truly believe in no regrets in life. I mean, listen, if you do something really, really, really fucking bad and evil, maybe then regret is a necessary healthy feeling. But when it comes to something like this, I don't think regret is necessary or healthy.

That's my opinion, because you can't change it. You can't go back in time and not be with this person. It happened and you can't rewrite history. So it's healthier to just accept that that is the past. It happened. You can't go back and look at it fondly. Remember it fondly instead. There's a reason why you chose to be with your partner all throughout college. If in the moment it was miserable and you hated it, chances are you would have ended it and you didn't. It doesn't sound like your partner treated you badly. I feel like that would have been mentioned if that was the case. It sounds like you're more worried about missing out on dating casually, hooking up with people. It doesn't sound like

your partner is a bad partner. It sounds like you're actually still with this person. Here's what I have to say to that. The feeling of, oh, what if I missed out? Number one, the grass is always greener. Okay? Not having a partner in college, hooking up with people randomly, dating casually, not being sort of tied down, if you will, in a relationship is probably a fun experience too. If you had done that, there's a chance that that would have been enjoyable. But I don't think one would be more enjoyable than the other, just different. And again, like the grass is always greener, right?

There are people who spent their entire college experience doing the opposite of what you did, hooking up with people, dating casually, who perhaps regret not dating somebody that they had feelings for because they wanted to be free and hook up with people and whatever. There's somebody out there wishing they had the experience that you had. The grass is always greener. And again, you can't change it. So it's better to just accept it as the past and focus on right now, focus on what's going on right now. But you're still faced with a dilemma, right? Once you let go of that feeling of regret and what could have been, you're still faced with the dilemma of what to do right now. Because if you're feeling like, oh, I think I might've missed out. Like, I really want to know what it feels like to

date casually. And you know, if you're yearning for that, I think part of that is normal in a relationship every once in a while to be like, ooh, what would it be like to be single again? I think that's a universal experience and I think that's often a phase that people go through in relationships. But if that's overwhelming to you and you're like, I don't know that I want to be with this person for the rest of my life. I think it's more important to me that I go out there and

I explore. That's okay too. And it's not too late to be single and to enjoy that experience. You can do that at any point in your life. Just because college is over doesn't mean that you can't go do that now. That's a limiting belief that's false. Like, yeah, you can't go back in time and go to college and do it again, but you have your whole life ahead of you. But I also think another thing to consider is, why do you feel like you missed out? Do you feel like you missed out

because you didn't have the same college experience as your friends? Do you feel like you missed out because societally people sort of romanticize the experience of being single and dating around in college? Where is this thought coming from? Is this thought coming from you genuinely feeling like, oh, I think I missed out? Or is it coming from the outside?

Because if it's coming from the outside, it might be helpful to look inward instead and figure out how you feel about it. But if it's something that is coming from the inside, it's coming from you, then I think it's something to take more seriously and figure out what your next step is, which is tough. You know what I mean? But I think the guiding light when it comes to making that decision should be what is going to bring me more fulfillment in my life? Is it continuing to build this relationship with this person so that ultimately one day we can have a family or one day we can move to New York City together or whatever your dreams are for this relationship? Or would it be more fulfilling for you to have an experience in your young adulthood where you're single and you can

hook up with whoever you want and you date around and you see what's out there. Only you can figure that out, but you just have to make sure that these feelings and these doubts and these concerns are coming from you and are not coming from any outside sources because it can be very easy to make the wrong decision if you're not listening to yourself, if you're being influenced by other people. Because at the end of the day, we have to live life for us. And I've had moments in my life where I felt like, oh, did I miss out on being single and being sort of promiscuous? I don't know if that's the right word. I mean, I guess promiscuous. Did I miss out on dating casually and hooking up with

people when I was younger because I've been in relationships pretty consistently since I started dating at age 17? What did I miss out on? I've had feelings like that. But whenever I look inward, I realize, honestly, I don't think those doubts are coming from me. I think those doubts are coming from society and people around me. I made the decisions I made because that's what felt right and that's what felt me. And those were the decisions that felt like they were the most fulfilling in the moment. And when I have dated casually and been single and like, you know, just hooked up with random people, I haven't liked that. You know, I haven't enjoyed that experience. So I wish you luck. This episode is brought to you by Boston Pizza. All right. Let's talk about the only two things

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life when I'm dating people, but I don't necessarily think it's the right answer for everyone. It's more catered to me as an individual. I personally am an all or nothing girl. You're either dating me and we are together and we're going to figure it the fuck out together or we are broken up and that's it. No havesies. No like, Oh, we're going to go on a break for a month and like, we're, we're not really dating. Like we can see other people, but, but, but then at the end of the month, we'll get back together and we'll be back to. No, I'm sorry. Fuck that. I can't do that psychologically. That is too messy for me because if I find out that on that break, my partner or ex partner

for the moment, like hooked up with somebody, uh-uh, too messy for me. My thing is, if you want to go get with somebody else or you don't want to be around me for like a few months, why are we together? Like, the whole point of a relationship is it's a partnership. We're going to get through this shit together. You can fully take a break while in a relationship It is very healthy to take time apart while dating if it's possible for

one member of the relationship to like go on a trip for two weeks and the other stay home Because you know you two need space, but there's an agreement, a mutual agreement. Like we're still dating, we're still together, we're going to figure this out, but we just need space. That's so healthy. There's nothing wrong with that. In a lot of ways, that is a break. But I feel like the break that we all know is like, oh, you know, we're not dating right now.

We're taking a break from dating for like one month or for two months and then we'll get back together at the end. But while we're on the break, we're not really dating anymore. What is that? Listen, I really don't believe in it. I think it's fucking messy and I think you're better off just breaking up. It's clear that one of you or both of you can't fully commit to what a monogamous relationship is, which is committing to one another through thick and thin. Relationships are so fucking challenging, especially the deeper that they are, the more vulnerable that they are, the more meaningful that they are, the more challenging that they

are. That's what makes them potentially so rewarding, but they're rewarding if you get through the tough times together. You figure out a solution together under the roof of your relationship. Does that make sense? But if somebody's like, oh, I think I just need a month off, it's like, that's not how it works. That sort of, in my opinion, I think that that is like having your cake and eating it too. Like you get to have the security of like, oh, this person is waiting for me, but I get to go like hook up with other people. That erases what makes relationships, monogamous

relationships in particular, so powerful. They're so powerful because it's a partnership where you're committed to one another and that's challenging. That's a challenging thing to do, but through the challenge and through overcoming the challenge together, you become closer as a result, thus forming a very special relationship and bond that can be really wonderful and fulfilling for people and an ongoing growth experience for both members involved. But if you take a break and you get to like kind of cheat for a little bit, it just doesn't feel right to me. And so I think it's all or nothing. However, if you

can have a conversation with your partner and you both come to the conclusion that you both are comfortable 100% with going on a break where you both can do whatever you want and both of you feel okay with that. Who am I to judge? You know what I mean? But I would argue most people would have a really hard time with this. And it's usually one person in the relationship who can't fully commit. And then the other person who's like, I love you so much. I'll do anything for you. And they're settling and they're allowing bad behavior just to end up breaking up a few months later when you try to rekindle, but then somebody, the one who's struggling to commit ended up hooking up with somebody and then the one who's super loyal obviously

didn't and then they get heartbroken. It's messy. I say no to the break. But again, if you can figure out a way to do it, I mean, don't let me stop you. Somebody said, I've been in a relationship for four years and I'm kind of bored. How can I know if it's just a phase? Is this normal? I have good news and bad news. In my opinion, this is just a phase. This is the reality of a long-term relationship.

And it makes sense, right? It makes logical sense. The beginning of a relationship is really exciting and really exhilarating because you have so much to discover about the other person. You don't know what their genitals look like. And then you find out one day and it's like, oh my God, that's so exciting. You finally get to see taint. And it's like, oh my God, that's so exciting. Like you finally get to see like taint and it's like, oh my God, I can't believe I got to see that. And then the next day you find out about a new little cute freckle that's on the back of their neck that you've never seen before. And then the next day you see what it's like when they cry. And then the next day they open up to you about something vulnerable. And then the next day you figure

out their sense of humor. And then the next day, do you see what I'm saying? It's like the beginning of a relationship is so exciting because you're constantly discovering something new, but at a certain point in a relationship, you've seen a lot. I don't think you've ever fully seen everything. I think there's always more to discover about another person because you're not in the other person's brain. And therefore, you'll never truly know what it's like to be them. You'll never truly know what goes on inside of their brain. There's always more to discover. But the exciting discoveries, or even really just the discoveries at all, they're less frequent. They're less often. You get to a point where you're so familiar

with your partner that it's like, yeah, it's not exciting. It's not exhilarating. But you know what it is? It's comfortable. It's familiar. And a lot of times it's really healthy. It might not be exciting and exhilarating. It might not be super hot and sexy and like, oh my God, I'm seeing their body in a new... I've only seen their body a few times. Now I get to see it again and it's still exciting. Like naturally all of this is going to wear off. But when that all wears off, you're left with something potentially really wonderful just in a new way. And the truth is, is that I think a lot of people throw away beautiful,

healthy relationships because they're like, wait, where did all the excitement go? Where did all of the hot steamy romance go? And they throw away a really healthy, beautiful partnership because they want that excitement of the beginning of a relationship, but that will never exist forever. You know what I'm saying? Unless there's a weird power imbalance, which is unhealthy. Excitement can continue if you're dating somebody who's super avoidant, who you feel like you have to win over every day. But who wants that? That's a toxic existence. I've done it. It's not fun. In my opinion, this is only a serious issue if you feel that

the boredom is rooted in a lack of depth and connection, thus leading to neither of you growing or having riveting conversation or, I don't know, really connecting on anything meaningful. If that's why you're bored, because your relationship is surface level and you're not kind of nudging each other to grow and be better and think differently, then yeah, that might be a problem. And that can happen. There is a chance that you're feeling this way, not because it's normal, but because you don't have a deep connection with your partner. You've been able to sort of skate by maybe by having similar hobbies or maybe having like a really extreme sexual chemistry,

but your relationship is actually not really rooted in any sort of meaningful deep connection. I think the questions to ask yourself is, do you know your partner? Do you feel like you know your partner like the back of your hand? Is there anything that you're curious about? Are you like, oh, I actually don't really... It's shocking. You can find yourself four years into a relationship and realize, I don't really know that much about this person. And that has happened to me. Where I've woken up one day in a relationship and been like, we don't even know each other that well. Maybe we have the same sense of humor, so maybe we laugh together, this or

that, but we actually don't know each other. If that's the case, and that's why you're bored, either you make a plan to figure out how to have a deep connection with that person, or maybe that's the end of it. Maybe it isn't just a phase and you're actually catching on to something that's a real problem in the relationship. But I think more often than not, what you're experiencing is genuinely just a phase. And I do think that there are ways to spice it up. Like, listen, if you want to spice it up, maybe plan a monthly date night, maybe plan a trip together, maybe plan a new hobby that you guys can try together. Maybe buy lingerie.

Listen, you'll never catch me buying lingerie as much as maybe people wish I would. Okay? But that's to me cringe, which is actually something I should probably talk to a therapist about. The fact that I feel like the thought of me and lingerie is cringe. Genuinely, there's something wrong probably there. Again, I should probably talk to a therapist about that. But buy a fucking sexy Santa costume. Buy a sexy nurse costume. Fuck it. Do nurse role play. You get what I'm saying here. Make an effort to spice it up if you feel inspired. If you don't, it's probably just a phase that will pass. But I really do encourage you and people in long-term healthy relationships to find the beauty in the peace

of a long-term relationship. There's so much value there and it is a bit harder to... It's less exciting. It's less obvious. It's a beauty that whispers for your attention rather than screams for your attention. In the beginning of a relationship, it's so exciting. It's screaming for your attention. But the longer that you're together, the beauty is much more subtle. But it's also much more real. And it's something that can actually last. Nothing that's that loud can last, I don't think. Do you know what I mean? Enjoy the peace and the freedom that comes with a long-term relationship. When you're loved by somebody and you have a beautiful partnership and that's something

that is a priority for you in your life, that can give you so much freedom to go and focus on your career, to go and focus on hobbies, to go do this or that. You have this person waiting for you at the end of the day at home who loves you and supports you. And you don't have to be playing the dating game anymore if being in a relationship is something that you care about and that's a priority for you in your life, which again, isn't for everyone, but it sounds like it is for you because you've been in one for four years. There's so much freedom.

You get to almost return to your life when you're in a healthy relationship because dating is like a full-time hobby. It's exciting, but it takes up a lot of time and energy and it can get in the way of other things, which is okay for a period of time in life. But at a certain point, I think a lot of us want to go back to our lives, get back to work, work on our hobbies, hang out with our fucking family. I don't know, but there's something beautiful about the freedom that you can have in a long-term healthy and perhaps boring at times relationship. I briefly interrupt this episode to let you know

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Do we have the same goals for the future? Do you want to get married? Do you want to have kids? Do you want to move to Los Angeles? Do you want to move to Texas? Do you want to move to France? Do you want to have three kids? Do you want to have one?

Do you want to have zero? Do you want to break up? What do you want to do? Because if you're somebody who has a certain set of goals for your future when it comes to your family, if you want to have kids, if you don't want to have kids, if you want to move here, if you want to open a coffee shop, after five years, it's more than appropriate to figure out if you're on the same page. In fact, I think it's appropriate to do that even sooner. I think after a year or two, it's appropriate. Don't sit around and guess what your partner's thinking. Sit them down and ask.

The truth is, if you don't feel comfortable sitting them down and asking, chances are they're not the one for you. You don't have a healthy relationship with an open dialogue with each other. If you can't sit your partner down and ask, are we on the same fucking page? Red flag major. You're not comfortable with each other. You haven't built a true partnership yet. Not saying you couldn't, but that's an issue in itself. If you're sitting around wondering things after five years, that to me is actually a red flag. Because again, after five years, it's like, you shouldn't have any questions about your partner. You should know them really well.

You've had a lot of time. So if you still have questions, there's a chance it's because you're not fully comfortable with each other. You're not fully being vulnerable with each other. You're not fully open with each other. You're in each other's lives, but you're not fully comfortable with each other. You're not fully being vulnerable with each other. You're not fully open with each other. You're in each other's lives, but you're not truly committed to a partnership. Because committing to a partnership is a whole thing. You know what I mean? In order to truly get the most out of a romantic relationship, you have to be sexually vulnerable. You have to be emotionally vulnerable. You have to be emotionally

vulnerable. You have to be honest. You have to be truthful. You have to be kind. There's so much to it to make it truly a partnership where both members are growing and it's actually a beneficial thing for everyone involved. If you can't sit your partner down and have this conversation, then that's clearly not happening. So that needs to be figured out first. But there's a chance that you might sit your partner down and have this conversation, which can potentially be uncomfortable and discover that you both actually are even more aligned than you ever even knew. That's the best case scenario. And then what? Well, I think then your focus needs to be, how do we get to a point where conversations

like this are comfortable and easy and that we don't even need to really have conversations like this because we already know? What do we need to do in our relationship to get to that point? How can we be more vulnerable with one another? How can we communicate with one another better on an ongoing basis so that we always feel synced or as often as possible, we can feel synced on the same page. And worst case scenario, it doesn't work out. And guess what? That's not five years wasted. I know that that's what you're thinking. You're like, I'm having a menti B because I have just spent five years with this person and now I'm feeling like it's not going anywhere. And I think it's time

to move on. But if I move on, I just wasted five years of my life. Like what now? No, you didn't. You did not waste five years of your life. Every relationship that you experience in your life will teach you things that will make you wiser and even better in your next relationship. There's like no such thing as wasting your time in a relationship, I don't think. Again, I'm really against regretting things that you can't change that aren't wrong. It's not wrong to be with the wrong person for five years. That's not wrong. It's wrong to hurt somebody really badly, in that case regret

it. You know what I mean? But it's not, I don't think it's necessary to regret that. For whatever reason, the universe wanted you to be in this relationship for five years so that for whoever you're going to be with next, you'd be ready. That's how I like to look at it. And I don't mean to get spiritual with my advice, but sometimes the spirit speaks. Can't help it. Can't help it.

Somebody said, I started dating my boy best friend of two years and it is kind of weird to navigate the transition. Will it get better? To be honest, I think anything can get better in a relationship between two people who have a genuine friendship and genuinely love each other and care for each other. I think anything can be solved between two people who have a relationship like that through honest communication and mutual dedication. And that rhymed. So that's kind of awesome. But I really think that if both of you can talk through it together,

honestly and genuinely, and I think if both of you are truly dedicated to figuring it out, anything is possible. I really believe that. It's when one person stops communicating or when both of you stop communicating. It's when one of you becomes less dedicated or both of you become less dedicated. That's when it's harder to say. Actually it's not even harder to say. That's when things won't work out. But if both of you are dedicated to figuring out this transition, which I can imagine would

be really uncomfortable. If you were really close for a really long time and then now all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute, like your pants are off. It's weird. It's weird. It would be weird. I've actually never really done that. To be honest, it's funny because I'm the first one to preach like relationships built on friendship first are set up for success, far more than relationships that start with lust and then, you know, because a relationship at the end of the day is a friendship where there's a sexual element, but it needs to be a friendship arguably first, you know, because you're not having sex all the time.

You're having sex like 5% of the time. And then the other 95% of the time, you're friends. That's really what you are. You're friends who maybe every once in a while, like touch the butthole, like when the other one's walking up the stairs, like that's, that is dating, but you're really just friends. So if you don't have a solid friendship, good luck. And it's much harder to figure out the friendship piece after the fact than it is to figure out the sexual piece after the fact. I feel like the sexual piece, sometimes you're just not compatible, so be it. But I think that's something that can usually be figured out or experimented with much easier than the friendship element. So I really believe you guys can figure this

out. Like I believe it with my whole heart. You know, the closest thing I ever had in dating, when I look back at my past relationships, the relationship that I think has been overall the most successful from a problem solving standpoint, like the person that I've dated that I've been able to problem solve the best with overall was the person that I've dated that I've been able to problem solve the best with overall was the person that I was friends with for the longest first. Does that make sense? We weren't friends for very long and there was always this undertone of dating, but we didn't have any sort of sexual interaction with one another for a month and a half. We just talked on the phone for a month and a half. Like we just talked on the phone for like a month and a half

and then met in person and then, you know, and then we were dating. But you get what I'm saying. And we really got to know each other and build a foundation. Again, it's not like fully being like besties first, but it was the closest thing I've ever had to that. But I will say that particular relationship, the problem solving was the most successful. And so based on personal experience, I think you fucking

got this because you have that foundation of friendship. That might be what's kind of getting in the way and making things weird right now, but it's also the thing that's going to help make it possible to solve it together. Okay. Somebody said, do you believe in right person, wrong time? I fell for this boy, but I just got accepted into college and he already has a job and a car and his life figured out. We're in different phases of life, but it seems we can't leave each other alone. Part of me believes once I start university and get a job like a real adult, we'll meet again and work better together. Of all the boys I've ever talked to, he's the one I feel is the

most sincere and we fit so well together. But he says he can't date me because of the age gap. I'm 19 and he's 26." Okay. Before we get into the age gap, because I do have a lot to say about that. I have a lot to say about it. Not necessarily say, well, I'll get in. Let's wait. Let's put a pin in the actual age gap and first touch on the right person wrong time thing. Okay? Because I actually do believe in right person wrong time.

I think that that's absolutely possible. I also think that you can't wait around for it. You can't put your life on pause, your dating life on pause, your love life on pause because you think that you've met the right person at the wrong time. That is the worst thing you can possibly do. It might be true that this is the right person and that this is the wrong time. However, you have to proceed with your life as though that's not true, because the only way to find out if it is true is if it comes back to you.

And I really do believe, not to get spiritual again, but if it's meant to be, it will come back to you. I really do believe that's true. And I've heard so many stories of people who, you know, who did find each other at the wrong time and ended up coming back together years and years later after dating other people. I hear that story all the time. And I really do believe in it, but I think you cannot put a pause in your love life because you might be wrong. It might not be right person, wrong time. It might just be wrong person, but you really like them. That's a harsh reality, but it might be the case. In order to figure that out, you need to go out there and try other things and see if

something else works. There's a really solid chance that something else might work better. And you might realize, oh, it wasn't right person, wrong time. It was wrong person, wrong time, wrong everything, but I just kind of like them. Like I thought they were cool and they were nice. And you know what? I wish them well, but they actually weren't right for me. Like there's a really solid chance that that will happen. So it's tough because as much as it might be true, there's no way to know for sure. And you cannot not date other people because you're waiting for them. That's the worst that you'll... Listen, I don't like believing in regrets or wasting your life, but that's a way to waste your life. And it's so painful to move on when you think you've met the right person and it's the wrong

time. But I can tell you from experience, every breakup that I've been through, I've been like, it's the right person in the wrong time. Just to then realize like a year later, two years later, five years later, ooh, it wasn't. It wasn't. It's crazy how convinced we can become that like, oh, this person is it. This person is the one just for just to be completely fucking blatantly wrong about it and to find that out years

later. So that's how I feel about the right person, wrong time. Not impossible, but don't wait up for it. Now let's discuss the age gap. Okay. Right? If he does not feel comfortable with the age gap, respect that. Okay? I actually find it really admirable that he feels uncomfortable with the age gap because it's a sign that he feels that there's a power imbalance. He feels like I'm more mature than her. I have more life experience than her. It's almost like he could perhaps manipulate you in ways that you wouldn't even understand because you're 19 and he's 26. So much happens between age 19 and 26. So much happens between age 20 and 24. Okay, I'm 24 now, right? When I look back at myself at 20, I think that is a child. I would feel uncomfortable

dating a 20 year old, to be honest. And that's not even that large of an age gap. I mean, four years in your 20s, a lot changes, but it's not like a super controversial age gap, you know, like 20 to 24. I would still personally feel uncomfortable dating a 20 year old because I was so different at age 20, so different and I was so much less mature. Every year that goes by, I feel like in your 20s specifically, every year that goes by, it's like 10 years. So the fact that he's feeling that is actually really admirable and I think you should respect it.

Like that's respectable. And you might think that you're mature enough to be with him. You really might feel that way. But I can almost guarantee you, you're more immature than you think you are. And I'm not saying that to be mean because when I was 19, I thought I could date a 30 year old. I really believe that. I was like, I'm an adult. I'm

19, no, 19 going on 30. Like send me the next 30 year old that's hot. I'll date him because I can fucking do this. In retrospect, that is idiotic of me. But I was 19, you know, but I felt big and adult and like, you know, but also I think dating, I think dating in your early 20s, because you're 19, you're almost 20, it's complicated because it's when maturity really starts to show. I don't know, I look back at when I was 19, 20, and I was attracted to guys that were older than me. And I dated guys that were older than me, not by seven years, but by a little bit less than that, not by much less. Because I felt the same way you did. I felt like this is the most sincere, nice, mature guy I've ever spoken to. This is magic. The truth of the matter is,

it's just because perhaps you've matured a little bit quicker than the boys your age. You know what I mean? And that's very common. And there's something really refreshing about being with a guy who's like mature and has their shit together and is respectful. And it's like, and younger men sometimes

are not as good at that. Takes them a few more years. You know what I'm saying? I get it. I get where you're coming from. And I don't want to undermine your feelings towards this man because he might be truly your soulmate, but this age gap is wide.

It is. It's wide. And I think you're feeling the way you feel about him, not because he's even necessarily that special. Again, I hesitate to say that because he might genuinely be magic and you two together might be magic, but I think what you're experiencing is just a mature man. And yes, there is something really wonderful about that.

But I think the age gap for him is too wide. He feels there's a power imbalance and he's probably frightened that you're not going to be able to hold him accountable because you don't have enough life experience. You're going to look at him like he's this, you know, oh my God, he's so much older and so much cooler and like you're going to idolize him and put him on a pedestal naturally. And that's not good for him because he needs somebody with enough maturity and with enough like life experience to be like, uh-uh, you can't behave like that. Uh-uh. Do you get what I'm saying? I really find it admirable that he's uncomfortable. It is a really, it is a wide age gap. But I think it's only a really wide age gap because you're 19 and he's

26. Okay. If you were to tap 20 years onto this, right, you're 39, he's, I don't want to do the math, you guys. He's like what? 39, you're in your, and he's in his forties. Then you have a different situation. At that point, maturity is a completely different conversation. Your prefrontal lobe has been developed for a long time, both people. You know what I'm saying? And everything sort of evens out. I think once you get past the

age of around 25, everybody's brain is pretty set in stone. So age gaps don't matter as much. But before that, there's so much brain growth that happens every single year that his prefrontal cortex is fully developed and yours is not. You're not above science. You're not above biology. That is reality. So there will be issues there. There's a good chance that there'll be a power imbalance. Is there a chance that there wouldn't be? Sure. But there's a strong chance that that could happen. And I don't know, I think there is a chance that it's right person, wrong time. You guys might, maybe when you're 25 and he's like, what, 32, maybe then you rekindle because at that point, the age gap doesn't

matter as much. But right now the age gap is very, it's wider than it would be post prefrontal cortex development. But again, I don't want to judge or like, it's everyone's so different and everybody matures at such a different speed and there's so many variables and everybody's so fucking, I can't even like, I can't fully comment on your situation and tell you what to do and tell you if there's a power imbalance or tell you if it's wrong or tell you, listen, some people would argue that this is predatory. I don't feel comfortable saying that. I don't know him.

I don't know his maturity level. He might be really emotionally immature, closer to somebody in his early twenties. And meanwhile, you might be really like, I don't know. So I can't say that, but I can say to be careful. And I can say, you might be feeling that he's the most wonderful man you've ever met just because he has a really developed brain, you know, and you've been interacting with perhaps boys your age that don't have a fully developed brain. And that's not insulting. That is a fact. So maybe you

don't need to date some, seven years is long. Maybe let him go for a little bit and date perhaps some guys who are a few years older, but within a range that is a bit more comfortable. Maybe stick to like three years. Yeah, around there. You know what I mean? Maybe that because then you're getting a guy who's definitely a bit more mature, but not so much more mature that there's going to be a power imbalance or some sort of complication or discomfort around the age thing, you know? And then, hey, maybe perhaps 10 years down the line, you two might rekindle and find love, but you also might not be right for each other at all. Only time will tell, but don't hold up. Let it go. It sucks. It

hurts, but let it go and see what comes your way next. Somebody said, this is a very similar dilemma to the last one, but a little different. Somebody said, can an age gap relationship work? A man professed his love for me recently and he's nine years older than me. Well, I've already discussed this a little bit. So honestly, I mean, I'm kind of going to sound like a broken record here, but the older you are, the better it works. Right? Like if you're in your thirties and there's a nine year age gap, go for it. Forties, even better. Fifties? Wow. Easy. Do you know what I mean? The older you are, the more irrelevant the age gap becomes. But when you're in your 20s, a nine-year age gap, you are at two very

different phases in your life. I think, again, once you hit 25, probably, it doesn't really matter anymore as much. From there, I think it's kind of fair game. Like, who knows? Again, because your prefrontal cortex is fully developed, you are a developed adult. But like, okay, let's think about it like this. I'm 24 right now.

If I were to be dating a guy that's nine years older than me, that would be a guy who is, what, 32? I don't know if that's right. It might be like 31. I'm not good at fast math anymore. I was when I was a child, but I've lost that skill. Whatever. 31, 32, 33, around there. Okay. If it was a guy who's nine years older. Oh, if it's a guy who's nine years older, wait, that's actually so easy. Math 33. Wow. I'm embarrassed that I struggle with that. Do I think I could date a guy who is 33? Do I think that that would feel right? To be completely honest, I think it would be a little bit challenging, I think, because I'm somebody

who wants to have children at some point, right? Okay. Now if a guy is 33, I'm 24, I don't want to have kids for another like what five years, maybe four or five years. Perhaps they would want to have children now. Like it could be complicated, you know, different phases of life. Beyond that, when I talk to people who are in their thirties, it's interesting. Sometimes I feel like we're the same age, genuinely. Like I feel like we connect, like we're the same age. I don't think about the age gap. And sometimes I'm like, this is a full on full ass adult beyond my comprehension at this time. Do you know what I mean? Like it varies. I don't know. I think an age gap relationship absolutely can work. I just think under 25, be careful, especially nine years. Ew. Be careful because as much as I think that every

individual person is so unique and every situation is so unique that it's honestly irresponsible to make any sort of blanket statement, I also think that it's pretty safe to say that that large of an age gap, under 25, for one member being under 25, I think is hard to pull off. And a lot of times it's sort of, it can be a red flag. It's like, why is this person dating somebody so much younger who has so much less life experience. There is this question of like, is that a red flag? And obviously there are the rare occasions where it's like, for whatever reason, there's just a click that's unexplainable. I'm not saying that that's impossible, but I think sometimes there's people who date younger because there's this appeal of like, they're not going to hold me accountable. I can manipulate them.

I can sort of control them because I have all these years of life experience on them. I can convince them that everything I do and say is right because I'm older. I'm sort of the authority and that can get sort of tricky. And I think once both people are past 25, 30, whatever, that sort of disappears because everyone's a functioning adult. That doesn't really work anymore. I don't know. So I really do think it depends on your age. And I would just say, be careful. I mean, obviously this is all within legal realm. Okay? I'm not speaking... Obviously, you get what I'm saying. If you're 17, no

nine year age gap, please. Let's not do that. That's illegal. So while the other person, if you're... You get what I'm saying. I'm not discussing that. We're talking within legal and safe parameters here. That's the guardrails of this conversation, but you get what I'm saying. I don't know. It's tricky. It is tricky. But then I think about it and I've met men in their 30s, well, I'm 24 now. When I was in my early 20s, earlier 20s, like 21, 22, there were moments when I'd meet guys in their 30s and I'd be like, this is a child. So it's really tricky. Maturity is so complicated, but I wish you luck and safety and no power imbalance on your journey. Anyway, that's all I have for today. I hope you enjoyed it. And if you did, new advice

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