anything goes with emma chamberlain - social media stalking [video]

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

[video available on spotify] listen. nobody wants to talk about this. i'm talking about it but i don't want to because it's mortifying. this is a behavior that we all participate in privately. maybe we discuss this with our closest friends, but there's something so deeply personal and private about this that i'm absolutely terrified to discuss it today. but, you know what? we're doing it… social media stalking. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Listen, nobody wants to talk about this. Okay, I don't want to talk about this. I'm here. I'm talking about it, but I don't want to talk about it, because it's mortifying. It's embarrassing. This is a behavior that we all participate in, privately. There are very few behaviors that are more private than this one.

Maybe we discuss this with our closest friends, but this is a very private behavior. I'd argue it's almost as private as masturbation. There's something so deeply personal and private about this that I'm absolutely terrified to discuss it today. But you know what, we're doing it social media stalking. This episode is brought to you by Hey You, the streaming home of reality TV.

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This episode is brought to you by Airbnb. Let me tell you my favorite Airbnb story. Okay, it's a few years ago, and a big group of friends and I decide we want to go to Joshua Tree out in the desert of California. We just want to have a vibe weekend. Okay, so we go on Airbnb and we find a beautiful home in the middle of Joshua Tree. And we book it. What I loved so much about this trip was kind of being roommates with my friends for the weekend. And we all just got to play house. We cooked for ourselves, we cleaned up after ourselves, and we just had a really good time.

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I'm not talking about actual stocking. I'm not talking about showing up at someone's house and watching them through the window. I'm not talking about hacking into their social media accounts using some sort of hacking tactic. I'm not talking about being weird. I'm talking about the social media stocking that we all participate in. I saw it called social media lurking online. And I feel like that's a better term for it because most of us are not stalking. We're not actually stalking. We're lurking. We're just looking. We're just looking. I don't know if everyone does this, but I'd argue most people do this. Most

people who are on social media participate in some form of social media stocking. What is social media stocking? I mean, there are varying degrees of social media stocking. I would say the beginner level is just looking through somebody's social media page, just looking through, just scrolling through. Nothing too crazy. That's like lightweight. Then you have intermediate.

I would say intermediate is looking through somebody's page frequently, maybe watching their Instagram stories using a FINSTA, a fake account. So they can't see that it's you watching it. They just see a random account watching it. You keep up with them regularly and you're not in each other's lives super closely. So it's sort of unusual. You know, you're kind of being sneaky about keeping up with them because you don't know them in a way that would make it appropriate for you to be on their social media page lurking. So I think that that takes it to intermediate. Maybe you need to start using a fake

Instagram to stock and maybe you're visiting their page a little bit too often. I would say extreme level is all the things I mentioned prior, but now you're looking at who follows them and you're looking through who they follow and then you're stalking who they follow and then you're looking through their tagged photos and then maybe you're starting to follow their friends on a fake account so that you can see what they're up to. Like that's extreme level. So there's beginner intermediate advanced slash extreme. I rarely go the extreme route. I would say I normally fall somewhere between beginner and intermediate.

I have participated in extreme. Ugh. Can't even. I have. I have. If I didn't know a lot of people who also have gone to advanced stalking, advanced lurking, I would not admit this publicly. But it's such a common thing, at least within the people I know, that I feel okay with admitting it. But it's something that no one wants to talk about, because it's so fucking mortifying. So let's discuss who we stalk, myself, and maybe even you. Who are the common people to stock on social media? I would say number one,

people that were jealous of or competitive with. I know it makes me feel like shit to stock someone who I think is doing better in their lives than me. I know that, but there's something about than me. I know that, but there's something about the flame that ignites in my body when I'm jealous or competitive that just makes me want to keep up with what they're doing, like I want to see what they're doing. And I think the reason why I do that is because I'm like number one, somewhere inside I'm inspired by them, so I kind of want to do what they're doing in a way. I also want to compare myself to them to see how I'm stacking up. You know, I'm jealous of or competitive with this person.

So I want to know how I compare on a consistent basis. Like, they're a barometer for me. It's almost like I'm constantly testing my own life compared to theirs. Like, okay, how am I doing in comparison to them? Am I doing way worse than them? 10 times worse than them? Or am I only doing two times worse than them?

You know what I'm saying? This is so toxic, but this is the human condition in the age of technology, okay? I also think that we stock people that we're jealous of or competitive with because we wanna find a flaw in them. We wanna catch them slipping a little bit because it makes us feel good.

You know, most of the time when we stock somebody that we're jealous of or competitive with, we're gonna find something unfortunate because people put their best moments on social media. So it's very rare that we're jealous of or competitive with, we're gonna find something unfortunate because people put their best moments on social media. So it's very rare that we're gonna see something that makes us feel good about ourselves because they're providing us with the highlight reel and that's what we're using to base their lives off of.

We're comparing ourselves to that highlight reel so it's definitely not promising for our well-being, but there's always a little chance That we might find something that makes us feel good about ourselves We might catch them slipping up a little bit. Maybe they don't look good in the last photo that they posted Maybe their outfit was not chic Maybe they started dating someone new and they kind of seemed lame. Like, we're looking for something that will boost us up. You know what I mean? I think competitiveness brings out a level of infatuation. I think jealousy brings out a level of infatuation because

I think jealousy brings out a level of infatuation because they deeply affect us. People that were jealous of are competitive with. They take up a decent amount of space in our brain and I think that that inspires us to stock them on social media. Unfortunately, okay, we also stock our axes. I mean, come on, this is like the most obvious. Everyone stocks their axes. Not everyone, but a lot of you, it's so hard not to. You have to, you have to, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I don't think that you can be a human and not do this.

Like, I still stock my first boyfriend's, I'm not like, what, sorry. Sorry, I still stock my first boyfriend's, I'm not like, what, sorry, sorry, I'm curious, I have to know. Being in a romantic relationship is deeply, deeply impactful on your life, whether it's net positive, net negative, net neutral, doesn't matter. No matter what type of relationship you were in, if it was a romantic one,

it probably impacted you in a huge way. The feelings that you felt towards that person were so electric and so strong, otherwise you wouldn't have been with them, probably. And those feelings don't just go away. You know, you're still always going to feel some type of way about your X's. And a lot of times, you still have feelings for them. Not always. Sometimes I check up on the next that like, I don't have feelings

for anymore. Like just because I'm curious, what are they up to? Are they dating someone new? Do they seem sad? Are they sad because they miss me? That always feels good, right? Are they thriving in their career? Are they not thriving in their career? Do they look good? Do they look bad? I think ultimately what we're looking for is the reassurance that we're better without them and that They're worse off without us. I think that that's ultimately what we're looking for. Not all the time though, because now that I'm thinking about it more, like when I'm stalking an ex,

it's sometimes just rooted in curiosity. I mean, I've had moments where it's been rooted in anger and resentment and I've wanted them to not be slaying. You know what I mean? Which is so fucked up in immature but we're being honest today, right? We're being honest. So, you know, I've had those moments, right? Breakups are so weird because you're literally so bonded together one day and then your strangers the next. Okay, look at me writing Pinterest quotes. One day, your lovers, the next day, your strangers again. I definitely have seen that on Pinterest before, but it's so weird to just cut things off with somebody that you were so close with and I feel like that tends to happen with relationships even more than friendships.

I don't know. Relationships tend to go much deeper and they tend to require a much sharper cutoff than friendships. And so I feel like that's why we're so much more intrigued by what our exes are doing because one day they just weren't in our lives anymore and it's impossible not to be curious about what their lives look like now. You know, what does it look like without me? But what are you doing, you silly boy? I also think that there are times that we stock our acts as to feel close to them. If we miss them, you know, see if there's a chance that we could get back together in some way.

Like I think that at times we can stock for that reason, you know, we're trying to put the pieces together to figure out, okay, wait, could we get back together one day? I don't know. We also stock our ex friends. Now this is a much less extreme version of what we do. I feel like with our exes, you know, I'd say a lot of times we're stalking our X friends out of pure curiosity and maybe at times jealousy or competitiveness, I feel like I tend to stalk old friends out of curiosity. It's not that hard, at least for me to forgive friends who have maybe wronged me,

at least for me to forgive friends who have maybe wronged me, that's much easier than forgiving in X for some reason. Actually not for some reason, it's very clear why, because that's a much deeper relationship, but I don't know, I don't personally stock X friends from a place of anger, resentment, jealousy, competitiveness. It tends to just be pure curiosity, like what the hell are they doing? How are they doing, etc? But I can see how for some, it can mirror stocking an ex-partner much more, you know, just

depends on how your friendship ended and how much you value your friendships, how you value your friendships, not even necessarily how much, but how you value them. You know, I'm much more flexible with my friendships. Like, I'm much more open to people coming and going as we both make sense in each other's lives. And I've been sad when friendships have ended, but I don't know, it's just always been easier for me to move past, I would say, then romantic relationships.

And then last but not least, we stalk people that we have crushes on. You wanna feel in the loop on what your crush is up to. Because you want to see like, okay, are they available for me? Okay, wait, what are they doing? I mean, seeing what your crush is doing is obviously amusing. Because when you have a crush on somebody, you want to see them do actually anything. You don't care.

So, I feel like that's mainly who we stock, right? One more on social media. Now listen, there are some exceptions. So I feel like that's mainly who we stock, right? When we're on social media. Now listen, there are some exceptions. I don't know who the exception would be, but those are the types of people that came to mind for me. But there's a clear theme.

We tend to stock people on social media who bring out negative emotions in us jealousy resentment anger You know sometimes longing sadness, I mean even with your crush Sometimes that can bring out feelings of anxiousness anticipation I feel like social media stocking is Almost always rooted in some sort of negative

emotion. This episode is brought to you by Airbnb. Let me tell you my favorite Airbnb story. Okay, it's a few years ago and a big group of friends and I decide we want to go to Joshua Tree. Chua Tree. Out in the desert of California, we just want to have a vibey weekend. Okay? So we go on Airbnb and we find a beautiful home in the middle of Joshua Tree and we book it. What I loved so much about this trip was kind of being roommates with my friends for the weekend. And we all just got to play house. We cooked for ourselves, we cleaned up after ourselves, and we just had a really good time. This house was phenomenal too.

I mean, everybody got their own bedroom. Everybody had their own private space. We had a private pool, a private hot tub. This house was so aesthetically beautiful that we were all just happy to be sitting in there and looking at it, because it was just gorgeous. It was super private, so we could all just be ourselves and hang out in the backyard and have fun

and truly be by ourselves in the desert. I have a lot of great Airbnb memories. More to come. So let's really dig into it. Why do we do this? I googled it. I didn't find a lot. Now maybe I should have dug a little deeper,

but I didn't find a lot. So I had to sort of piece things together to try to figure out why we love stalking on social media so much. Like, why are we so addicted to it? Here's what I found, all up for debate, as always. We're looking for a boost to confidence. Stalking somebody that we dislike can be an easy way to get a confidence boost.

If the person that we dislike is believed by us to be a generally worse person than us. Like we might become obsessed with stalking somebody that we really don't like and don't think is cool because every time we go on their page, we know we're going to feel better about ourselves. I'll give an example. Let's say we stop being friends with somebody and you don't really respect them. Now, this is so sad and dark. So I'm so sorry. Let's say you don't like them, you don't respect them, you don't think respect them. Now this is so sad and dark. So I'm so sorry.

Let's say you don't like them. You don't respect them. You don't think that they're cool. You kind of think that they're lame. That's why you stop being friends. You can go and stock them and then compare your life to theirs. And almost always come out of that with a little confidence boost.

I think that's one reason why we stock because we're looking for an easy boost of confidence. But I also think that at times we're looking for a more rare boost of confidence. Stalking somebody that we dislike can be more challenging, yet far more rewarding when the person that we dislike is believed by us to be a generally better person than us. And as I sort of mentioned earlier, a lot of times we're going to go on their page and we're going to find them slaying and we're going to feel like shit about ourselves. But every once in a while when we see that little slip up, that little cringe moment, we're going to feel pretty good.

So I think one reason why we stock is for our confidence, we're looking for a cheap boost in our confidence. And we're not always gonna find it, but we might look for it. I think we also stock on social media to compare ourselves. Thanks to wp.nyu.edu. Comparisons are a normal part of human cognition and can be good for the self-improvement process. When we compare ourselves to others, we get information about what we want and where we want to be,

and we get valuable feedback on how we measure up. We compare ourselves to see, okay, wait, how the fuck are we doing? You know what I mean? How are we doing? Are we measure up. We compare ourselves to see, okay, wait, how the fuck are we doing? You know what I mean? How are we doing? Are we keeping up with the cool kids? What's happening? I do think it's important to compare to an extent, you know what I mean?

We have to look around and see what everyone else is doing and use that as inspiration to do even better in our lives. I think that that can be a positive thing. Can very quickly become a negative thing, though. That's for sure. I think usually when it comes to social media stocking, it's the negative type of comparison where we're comparing in an unrealistic environment. In my opinion, healthy comparison doesn't need to be sought out.

It's presented to you in your life. You know, it's in the people that are around you on a day-to-day basis. You don't need to find somebody online to compare yourself to. I understand it's hard not to compare yourself to people that are online though because I do it all the time. But I think even on social media, it's like, if you follow people who inspire you, who are good people, and you compare yourself to them, that could fall into the positive category as long as it's not becoming toxic for you in the sense that it's making you actually feel unmotivated and depressed because you feel like you'll never live up. And that's when it's bad.

But there's an endless list of people that you can compare yourself to online. And that's why I think it's so tempting. And it's easy to get fixated on one person and start checking up on what they're doing all the time, causing some stalking, you know? I also think that stalking is a distraction. I think some of us can use it as sort of an escape, which is so funny because I would argue that nine out of 10 times stalking people in social media

leaves us feeling bad. You know, we end up seeing things we didn't wanna see. We end up comparing ourselves more than we should be in an unrealistic environment, you know. Online is unrealistic. We end up worse off, nine out of 10 times. I would say the only time I stalk somebody on social media and I leave feeling good is probably when I'm stalking a crush,

when I have a crush. Because I'm like, oh, so cute, obsessed. Love them. Love him. Oh, so cute. Who's cute. You know what I mean? Oh, that's great. You know what I'm saying? But even then, sometimes I end up leaving stalking a crush being like, this is so frustrating like what I ever even like will this ever happen with us or no and that can actually be kind of depressing to and it'd be easier if I hadn't stock them because then I wouldn't be thinking about them as much and I would just be living my life. I was saying, I think it's funny that we use social media stalking as a distraction because usually we're distracting from negative feelings, negative emotions. But going and stalking on social media actually also creates negative feelings and negative emotions. But I guess it just creates new ones, different ones.

So whatever. I know when I'm going down a rabbit hole on Instagram and I'm doing my little research or whatever, whoever. I am in another world. I'm transported to another dimension truly, truly. And I've been really bad about my social media usage recently and I've been really getting sucked in to rabbit holes. And I swear two hours goes by and I've been really getting sucked in to rabbit holes and I swear two hours goes by and I'm like, what? What just happened? He's I'm so distracted. I'm so

in it. You know what I mean? And last but not least, kind of going off the last one, emotional attachment. I think this one mainly applies to like an X significant other, you know, X partner. It's normal to miss an X to want to get back together with an X. It's normal. And so a lot of times the emotional attachment that you have to a person doesn't disappear when the relationship ends. You still feel emotionally attached to them. And then completely being out of your sight is unnerving to you because you're attached to them. So seeing them, knowing what they're doing, feeling connected to them through social media, makes you feel close to them again. And I also think emotional attachment can inspire you to

stock to try to figure out the likelihood of you getting back together. Like, are they dating somebody new? Are they following their ex-girlfriend again on on social media? Like, you know what I mean? Are they posting weird things on their Instagram story that allude to them having a new significant other? Like, you know, you're looking for that. You're looking for signs because you're still emotionally attached to them and that feeling is so vivid and so strong and so consuming that you'll do anything in your power to tend to those feelings and stalking on social media might be the way to do it.

Now, here's the thing. Okay. feelings and stocking on social media might be the way to do it. Now here's the thing, okay. It makes sense why we do this, right? It seems to be very human, but why do so many of us do it when it so clearly makes us miserable? Nine out of 10 times when we stock, I swear we end up feeling worse at the end of it. You know, even if it started as cute and innocent,

like, like, oh, I want to see what they're up to, it almost always ends in some sort of negative feeling. When I really think about it, internet stalking always ends with pain. You might get a brief surge of rewarding chemicals in your brain. You might get a brief boost of confidence. That's at best.

At worst, you might find out that your ex is dating somebody new and really hot, out, that hurts, or you might find out that your ex-best friend is on a vacation with their new best friends, and they're having a lot of fun, and you kind of feel jealous and left out. Or you might find out that the person that you feel competitive with or jealous of is fucking slaying. Is slaying. And that sucks, you know, it always ends bad. So why do we all continue to do it? I did a little bit of research about why humans seek out pain because I've noticed that humans do do that myself included. You know, like I seek out pain for sure. Sometimes I exercise in ways that are painful and brutal. I enjoy scaring movies sometimes.

that are painful and brutal. I enjoy scaring movies sometimes. I'll look at photos that make me nostalgic and sad on purpose. Like, why do I do that? Why do we do that? According to the American Psychology Association, there seems to be three main reasons why we seek out pain. Number one, we put ourselves in a difficult situation and then we cope with it and that makes us feel satisfied. I think that this sometimes applies to social media stocking. I think sometimes we go into it expecting to see something that we don't want to see. And when we end up seeing the thing that we didn't want to see, we're forced to deal with it and accept it. And there can be something sort of satisfying about that, I guess, but I think we could go without it, you know what I mean?

Another reason why we seek out things that will hurt us is because it's a distraction. I said that earlier, but it was further proven now by science. And he's really distracting to feel pain. I said that earlier, but it was further proven now by science. And he's really distracting to feel pain. It takes over everything. And so one pain can distract us from another pain, a worse pain, that makes sense. And last but not least, we seek out pain because of how good it makes us feel when we stop. I don't know if that applies with social media stocking. I think that applies to a lot of things. I think that applies to exercise, maybe stretching, maybe

going out and being social when we're not in the mood or retired. I don't know. Does it work? That's the straight line. But I think the first two apply more. In my opinion, I think the reason why we continue to stock on social media, even though it makes us feel like shit, is because we lack self-control. We crave the excitement, the control, the potential confidence boost, the feeling of scratching an inch that we get from seeing what these people are doing on a consistent basis. And we don't want to stop. We don't have self-control. We know deep down that the pain is yet to come. Like, yeah, we might get some sort of satisfaction short term, but long term, we know it's going to make us feel like shit. But we're looking for that short

hit of amusement, excitement, confidence, whatever it may be. Because you know what's funny, even when you go into social media stocking, looking for a confidence boost and you get it, you'll still end up feeling like shit, long-term. Because it doesn't feel good to get a confidence boost through other people not doing well. That actually is not where your confidence boost should come from. Not only does that make you feel bad about yourself at times because you're like, my God, like I'm such a bad person.

Like I am comparing myself to other people and like shitting on other people and that's how I feel good about myself. Like that's such a bummer, but also it's not a consistent stream of Confidence it's fleeting fast If that's where your source of confidence is coming from it will be gone just as quick as you got it So you'll end up in the same place or even in a worse place than you were before I also think that we don't stop even though we know we should, because it's a part of our

routine. Like I go on social media and I go through my Explore page and my Explore page knows what I'm interested in and gives me content from people that I stalk. And so you know what that does? That further pushes me to stalk more. But also we're so on our phones that we almost have a subconscious routine that we participate in. It's not completely subconscious, but it borders on subconscious because the way I use social media is so automatic. It's so automatic. I don't even think about it. I'm just doing it. And I think it can become a part of our routines to use social media in a negative way. You know what I mean?

So I think it's safe to say that this is a bad habit. Okay. Stopping on social media is a bad habit. We should try to the best of our ability, not to do it, because I'd argue it always ends bad. So how do we stop doing it? I mean, I think the first way is to unfollow them, to mute them, to maybe even block them. If you don't follow each other and you're still stalking them and they won't notice if you block them,

you should block them. Because then you can't look them up. Nope, out of sight, out of mind. I'd say that that's the most obvious way to stop. It's very helpful, it's very effective, but it's also sort of unrealistic. You can't go and block someone if they're gonna see that you blocked them.

I think blocking like, I don't know, let's say you're dating somebody new and you keep stocking their ex girlfriend. And they don't, the ex girlfriend doesn't even know who you are, whatever. Maybe you blocked that ex girlfriend. They're never going to notice, right? Just so that you can't even look them up. Let's say you still follow somebody that you stock Incessantly always checking it. Okay, maybe it's time to mute them. You don't have to unfollow them They don't have to unfollow you. Maybe it's just a mute, but it's Trying to get them out of your sight as much as you possibly can I think more effective than that is to notice When you're starting to stock and to figure out how you pivot.

So maybe you have an issue with stalking this one person that you're jealous of on Instagram. You just can't stop. Or maybe you're just scrolling through your Explorer page trying to find people to stock that could potentially make you jealous or competitive. I think just having a plan on how to pivot can be so helpful. Like I do this all the time with bad habits, okay? Especially ones that are somewhat subconscious. Like when I find myself falling into a bad habit, I figure out, okay, what do I pivot to? Like for example, when I am stalking on social media and it's starting to get toxic, right? My pivot is I'll go on Pinterest because Pinterest for me is very positive.

I go on Pinterest and I find inspiring images and I save them my little boards and it inspires me. You know, it inspires me with home decor and fashion and hairstyles and makeup and I, all these things that I love and it's positive right. I don't ever go on on Pinterest to compare myself to people like I go on there to be inspired right so. Now I know like okay when i'm using social media Instagram. Specifically in a negative way okay i'm just gonna pivot. To Pinterest no biggie don't worry. Okay, I'm just gonna pivot to Pinterest. No biggie.

Don't worry. No problem. No problem. That's what I have my back just pivoting over, pivoting over to Pinterest. And that's helped me a lot. I also think it helps to distract yourself in the real world. Like, if you find yourself in a period of life where you've a lot of time to be on social media, stalking, stalking it up, find more shit to do in the day.

Now don't be offended by that because there are periods of my life where I just have downtime, you know, especially during the winter time. When it's cold out and I can't just go to the beach when I'm bored, you know, it's especially hard during the colder seasons because we're just kind of inside a lot more. It's so important to keep yourself busy.

Keep yourself busy in the real world. And last but not least, try to find more fulfilling ways to use social media. Listen, social media is a huge part of our lives. We're not getting out of that. This is the world that we live in, okay? But there are ways to make it positive. You can follow a bunch of inspiring accounts and just

use social media for that. Curate your social media experience so that you're only seeing stuff on your feed that makes you feel good. Can you still go and stock? Of course, but I think a combination of all four of those things can be really helpful. At the end of the day, we're human. We're still going to stock people on social media. I don't know if I'm ever gonna fully not do it. Like, it's just so, I'm curious about so many people and I'm like, and I mean, sometimes I'm jealous of people, sometimes I'm competitive with people,

I wanna see what they're doing. Like, it's tough, it's tough, and it's so ingrained in our social media routine, how we use social media. But I know for me recently, it's so ingrained in our social media routine, how we use social media. But I know for me recently, it's been bad. Like I've been doing it a lot. Like, just like stalking everyone. Like why, I can't stop.

Like I'm obsessed. I like, no, I'm not obsessed. Okay, excuse me. I'm not obsessed. But, you know, it's starting to get cold outside and I'm spending a lot more time indoors and Unfortunately, that means a lot more time on my phone and I just been doing deep dives on just about everyone from like a little crush to Somebody I'm deeply competitive with like it doesn't matter like it's everyone. It's brutal

But guess what? I'm gonna stop. No, I'm not. I'm not. But I'm really gonna try to my best to stop. I'm gonna stop as much as I can, because I do think it's starting to make me depressed. So that's social media stalking, okay? We all do it.

Don't even listen. Okay, if you don't do it, good for you. Congratulations, okay? There's some of us out there that are not, good for you. Congratulations. Okay, there's some of us out there that are not as strong as you. Anyway, that's all I have to say today. Thank you all so much for listening and hanging out. Hope you enjoyed it.

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