Are You A Charlotte? - All in the Family with Mireille Enos... (S2 E15 "Shortcomings")

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Before she was nominated for an Emmy, a Tony, and a Golden Globe, Mireille Enos got her SAG card on Sex and the City. She had one line, but it was the start of a fabulous career. She joins Kristin to analyze her performance! Charlotte’s brother slept with Samantha and Kristin and Mireille have THOUGHTS!    Plus, the current real-time connection between Mireille’s very famous husband and Carrie Bradshaw.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You think you're finally, like, in the right hand. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Hello, hello, we are back with Are You a Charlotte? We have a fantastic guest today. But he was me, Ray. He knows. I think you won't recognize her. the fact that she was actually on Sex and the City is crazy. A million years ago. Yeah, it's so special and amazing.

And, you know, it's fun for me because when they told me that you, because they went, they looked at all the list of the names of everyone who was in the show. And they were like, be right in those. I was like, I guess. I mean, for me, I wasn't in that scene, right? No. Yeah. Valerie Harper, Justin Thoreau.

I mean, it was such an incredible scene to be a part of. And this was actually a big moment in my life. So I had recently moved to New York. I was like waiting tables and being an art model and hustling. And I had recently, there was an agent named Jim Flynn who I hadn't even met Jim. I had met his assistant who had come to see a showcase and he had recently been given permission to sign for like actors for commercials or like three and under lines, whatever. Right.

And so the first audition he sent me out on was this. No. Yes, sex in the city one line. Wow. And I booked it. And it was my first paying job in New York City. Wow. But I had to pay my SAG dues before I could walk on set.

I had $3 in my bank account. So I was asking my parents to wear me the money and all this stuff. And so all day long, this little newbie agent was like on the phone. And Jim finally was like, what the heck is going on? Who is this person? So this one line was my first paying job in New York, got me my sad card, and then ultimately Jim Flynn signed me. And he was my agent for all the years I was in New York.

Oh, that's so nice. That's a nice story. Can I say that everything about it, of course, because you know what was going on in your life, that's so interesting. But when you look at yourself in that scene, you only have one line. But you're amazing. Oh, you're sweet. Thank you.

And here you are with all these people. Yes, these wonderful people. Yeah, incredible people. And how was, like, even with all this background going on, how was the experience? It was, I remember it being a very happy day that everyone was kind and they were all just like, you know, actors and they're in there and telling a story and having some fun. Right. And of course, you know, I mean, Second the City is so iconic and the storytelling is so wonderful. And this episode, I mean, I've seen so many episodes from all the seasons, but this episode, I just rewatched, it really stands up. It was a really awesome episode.

It's super interesting. It really is. Yeah, I didn't even really remember it. Yeah. Like, I remember that Valerie Harper was on the show. We were so excited because all of us grew up, of course, with Mary Tyler Moore and Rota for all of you youngsters. And fantastic, kind of one of the, I mean, not original. I guess Lucille Ball would be the first female-driven sitcom.

But she was really. And pivotal in terms of young women. And she was a career woman, Mary Tyler Moore. and Rodo was her best friend. So it was in some ways kind of almost a blueprint for sex in the city in a certain way

at a different time, right? So it meant so much to us to get Valerie Harper. I remember being so excited about that and kind of like star-struck and didn't know what to say. And Sir Jessica was so excited which I feel like you can see in those scenes.

Totally. Their scenes together are so wonderful. They're really good. They're really good. And then we have Justin Thoreau for the second time, which is kind of hysterical because this is the second season.

And I had vaguely, vaguely remember that, but I'm not working with him, right? But I know him, he's such a lovely guy. Yeah. And I had completely forgotten about their rather embarrassing storyline. Yes. I just remember that he was on the show, you know what I mean, and the

Valley Harbour's on the show. And then when I actually watched what they're talking about, it's hilarious. It's hilarious, but also like so real. Yes. I mean, played for laughs, but yet still so real. All right, so let's get back to a little bit of details. Okay. So this episode is

called Shortcomings, which is, you know. Yeah, perfect. Oh, God. And it was directed by Daniel Allgrant, who's a really interesting director. And I honestly can't remember if he came back or not. He had done a movie and indie, I think it's called, is it called Naked in New York? I should have asked you guys this before we started. Get the producers to look it out.

He had, you know, there was a time when we would get like indie film directors, especially first season. And he was kind of a second season version of that. Then also we're at this point getting a lot of Sopranos directors in the loop. So we kind of got this interesting mix going on. Yes, naked in New York. That was his indie film in the 90s. So I feel like, you know, people like have a kind of an indie hit back in the day when you could have an indie hit.

And then they're kind of like the hot ticket. Yeah. This was Daniel All-Grand. And he was very sweet. And this is written by Terry Minsky, which is also interesting because Terry Minsky wrote in the first season, yet was not on the set with us. And I think by the time you came, and I don't know if you would remember this, we had Cindy Schupeck and Jenny Bix for our super, are supervising producers slash writers. Right.

So they were around a lot. Right. I mean, they were probably so. It's such a blur. Of course. Of course. So this is my Mi-Rei story.

So I did not remember that you were on our show. So when my producer said, Mereitas was on a show, I was like, well, definitely call her. What on earth did she play? Because I don't remember.

But you know, when you're not there with other people, you don't always know what's going on the story. And plus you met a lot of people over the course of all those years. Most definitely. I mean, we didn't sleep.

Yes. You know, but the reason that it was interesting to me is that when your show The Killing came on, I remember watching the opening sequence, you're running in that fisherman sweater. I believe you're in Vancouver on the edge of Stanley Park, a place we all know, all actors know. And I was like, I love her, and she seems so familiar. That was my thought. That's so sweet. And I watched the whole thing.

You were so, yeah, but you're very unique, you know, and so specific. And when I see you in that scene, because of course, I'm waiting with Bated Breath the whole episode. Where is she? Where is she? Where is she? And then finally you show up and you're just so interesting and so present. And to think that that was your first job. My first job in New York City. Incredible. Your first job in New York City. I love that so much. And that's the joy of being on a show for a while. That's right. It's getting to see the talent that they were able to find and pull. Well, especially a show cast in New York,

which just feels like such a tight community of actors. And you see people. that are on stage and then they're shooting an episode of a show. And you see the same thing in Only Murders in the Building. All of these wonderful New York actors that get pulled to do episodes. Yeah. Yeah. It feels really special. It's so great.

So now I'm going to talk about our other connection. Okay. So, Sir Jessica's married to Matthew Broderick. Yes. Matthew Broderick was in a movie with your husband, Alan Rugg. Way back. When we were young. Yeah.

I was a kid. Yeah. I was of the age. be, like, completely obsessed with Ferris Bueller. Yes. Ferris Bueller's Day Off, I hope all of you have seen this.

But if you haven't, you must immediately go watch. It is a classic. And the joy is that they're currently in Vancouver working. Yes. 40 years later, Alan Rock, Matthew Broderick, who originally met doing a Broadway play,

Biloxi Blues. No. I had forgotten that part. Yes. I saw Biloxi Blues. Did you? Yes. Oh, that's so incredible.

I bet. So they were already friends. And so then Matthew got Ferris Bueller, and then Alan was called in, and of course, they got cast together. And so they were already friends when they shot that film. And I feel like you can really feel that in the chemistry. And the, you know, the scene where Alan is on the phone and he's pretending to be. So that was a joke, the voice that he does, that was a joke to crack Matthew up because he was doing an imitation of Gene Sacks who had directed Blexie Blaze. That's a little insider.

That's amazing. Oh, that's amazing. And so they've stayed pals all these years, 40 years. Wow. And right now they're shooting a movie called The Best Is Yet to Come. Excellent. And it's about lifelong male friendship. And it's just like Alan is having the time of it.

Yay. Yay. The last time Matthew was in Vancouver and this is why Sarah Jessica told me about it. He and I were filming a Christmas movie together in like 100 degree weird. Oh, no. August. And he was in a whole tizzy about where to stay. You know, it's always an issue, right? When you go on location, where to stay, where to stay, where to stay? Where to stay? Where to stay? Where to stay? Where did he stay last time? Remind me? And so we had to talk it through it. It really made me laugh that, number one, I love the interconnectedness of all of us over time. And number two, the HBO of it all is hysterical. I mean, like to watch Ellen, I mean, throughout his career, Spin City, so many amazing things. But then success. Succession.

I mean, yeah, I know, what a special experience. Yeah, I mean, that was really, yeah, pivotal. And he plays such a hard character. Yeah. But you loved him. Yes. You love him and he's also kind of a sociopath. Yes.

He's a dumb dumb and also like heartbreaking and like all the things. That's very hard. It's very hard. Very, very hard. He's amazing. He is. Thank you. I know.

I love to have you on and I love all the connections. It's always a joy to, you know, like the Kevin Bacon's six degrees of, it's very, everyone's very connected. And that is, I think, one of the joys of our job. Well, when you're in a career for like a long time, that, that just happens, you know? People's paths cross and you work with each other's spouses. Yeah. Yeah. It's a joy. It's a joy. All right. Let's break down this episode a little bit because sometimes it's just fun to chat. Yeah. Sometimes they have my rewatch. Yeah. But it was very entertaining for me also to rewatch because sometimes I have a lot, a lot of memories more behind the scenes, you know, what was going on that day.

And then sometimes I really remember the plot and sometimes I don't. Yeah. Well, that was early too. It's true. And in my mind, I thought that we had Justin Thoreau in season one, which is he also plays a writer, which is so weird. What was going on with us? Yeah, he got cast again twice as a writer.

As a writer, though we shaved his hair. I was like, oh, just put some glasses on him. Yeah. Now he's a different person. Exactly. He's a different person, but he's adorable as both. But he plays a slightly unlikable writer in each, which is also interesting. That is interesting. Like the first one, he's like super slick and he's just gotten, like, invited to parties and stuff.

And she also gives the writer advice as someone who's a writer, Carrie, is obviously a writer in the, you know, thick of it in terms of Manhattan Night Life. And then this one, she's giving him advice. He says, I'm going to be in GQ. It's almost like the same part. different. It's interesting. And it's the kind of thing. And I, you know, certainly don't want to dwell on this, but we just did, you know, and just like that. And people got very obsessed with every little detail. Very upset about every little detail. I'm like, back in the day, all kind of stuff went on. That's right. Like, you know, I mean, and no one said anything. I don't know if anyone

noticed. Probably not. I think, I think we're in a new moment of people wanting to like be in on every single detail and wanting to have an opinion and say their opinion and say their opinion and it's yeah it and they have a way to say it yeah yes we didn't know which there wasn't i think this would have been the year 2000 do you think that's right i think that's right right which is yeah i mean it seems like another lifetime ago things were so different yeah yeah so i mean i was in my 20s oh my god yeah adorable adorable you look like you're in your teen i do i was such a baby face actually. And your hair. I had forgotten what I looked like in it and rewatching. I was like, oh my God, I look 17. You really do. But beautiful. So beautiful. And you seem

sophisticated because you're sitting there with those people who are all like very New York intelligentsia, you know, type thing. I love it. Anyway, back to the show, back to the show. So this is a, to me, kind of a departure of a show. Yeah. Like there are certain things about it. Like for instance, the coffee shop, for some reason we're all plastered next to each other. Did you notice this? Yes. Like our shoulders are literally touching you like what's going on. Do you mean?

I don't know. And then there's like a walk and talk where we're also like they're like, anyway, that was interesting. I mean, we're kind of finding our way in certain ways. And I think also when different directors would come, we were more affected by them than later on. You know, later on we just be like, no, this is what we do. This is what we're doing.

You had found your, yeah, your own rhythm. And your kind of confidence within that. But it's also, I found it, especially in the coffee shop scene, because now we do have our coffee shops that in the beginning we didn't, we're like out and about different places, right? So it's funny in the coffee shop, but we're like peppy, you know what I'm saying? That like really like energized repartee is in full force, which I really enjoyed. Yeah. It was nice to see. We seem happy, which I'm sure we were exhausted.

But, you know, it has a lot of energy, right? Yeah. And it seems like you guys really enjoy each other. and yeah yeah yeah i know and sarah jessica seems super bubbly and also i think it's very hot when i look at that what i remember you know there's like the very hot summers and then the not so hot summers like medium her hair is like it's natural self you know and she's just radiant and i feel like we were all hot but it was great you know it was a fun a fun hot i love that moment she bangs on the glass and sees you guys and it's a classic it's a classic see that also snuck up

on me because I think the way social media is now you see these little snippets and you're like yes of course I remember that that was at the height yeah no it's early yeah and I think that the theme of this episode which is family is difficult yes and family is also your chosen family which I love so much and I had no idea that we had that theme really explicitly in there so early yeah like that's kind of amazing yeah it's wonderful well and each of you your individual storylines are, I mean, you have your brother, obviously, who is your real family. Which is so strange. Yeah. But there's also like the other women are like in these little transitional, that's not people that are going to stay. Right. Which just like shines light on how

special the four of you are together. That's true. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because my brother, we never see or hear from him again. Again. No. Including my two weddings. Yeah. Oh, right. He's not either of your weddings. That's hilarious. I know. I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry. He works a lot. He was on Ozark. He played an evil, evil lawyer. I was like, oh, there's my brother. My mom.

My one episode brother. Exactly. I mean, now that I'm re-watching, I'm trying to glom on any little details. And to have my brother there in his like preppy shorts, it's very interesting. We did have an episode before where I talk about how in my Waspy family, we don't talk about feelings.

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So the brother comes. He is getting divorced from his wife. And I tell you guys that he's coming to visit because he's getting divorced. Yes. And everyone makes fun of me. I tell you guys like you're in the scene. You're one of us now. And everyone makes fun of Wesley and Leslie, which is also like so preppy and funny.

Yeah, yeah. Very fine to make fun of. But of course, Charlotte really is tired of getting made fun of at this point. I make all kind of faces at them, which is also funny. And then, so, and weirdly, I guess not weirdly, you know, Charlotte's very pro-marriage, as we know. As we know. And yeah, she really is committed to them getting back together, working it out. And she keeps kind of slightly irritatingly asking him like, did you talk to Leslie?

Did you talk to Leslie? How's Leslie? And he's like, no. And then I do kind of love in the end, and this is what I do, I just synops down. When he says, you know, I believe he says I hadn't gotten laid or whatever. she's a bit weird of a way to talk about your wife, but whatever, in two years. And then Charlotte looks kind of horrified, which is interesting. And then I'm like, oh, okay, I understand.

So basically what happens is that Samantha sleeps with my brother, which clearly Charlotte knows is going to happen, which is why I don't invite Samantha, but then Kerry brings Samantha. And you're horrified that she's there and, yeah. And like, awkward and interesting. And also, sometimes when I watch it, I can tell, you know, there's occasionally scenes. with the three of them without me. I can tell that I'm like a newer friend. And there is a scene when we flash back to the 80s

and all of them are together and I'm not there. Because they hadn't met me yet. But we never explained that either. It's interesting. But I can feel that when I watch this episode because I pull carryover and I'm like, ah, you know, I didn't you bring her. That's Samantha, our friend. Right.

Yeah. Which is also really funny and interesting. But I did. And then I mean, my producers, when they watched it, they were like, oh, you shouted her really harshly. The thing that I thought was so interesting about it. I mean, for Charlotte, it is harsh to say that, you know, she should be on like, you know, a guidebook of New York because her, you know, station is always open, so to speak. But it is, of course,

a harsh thing for Charlotte to say. Yeah. The thing that I find interesting is the way Samantha talks about sex. Yeah. And herself. I mean, not in a derogatory way, but just in a very free way. Yes. It's interesting that then she would take offense to me. Yes. saying that but then I guess that also is kind of true like sometimes if you say something about yourself yes you can talk about yourself in ways that you don't want other people to talk about you and and what what seemed to be true in that scene is that where Samantha is very comfortable talking about sex in that way Charlotte it felt like new ground for Charlotte to be so direct definitely yes you know and so that that felt like that was where the oh definitely

definitely I mean I would never say anything like that right yeah my girl friends. Yeah. And I saw something recently about, I do feel like one of the joys of when I compare things now to things back then is that female friendship, I feel like, is much more honored and kind of discussed and, you know, prioritized. Right. Now, as opposed to back then, back then, they say like, how did you, you know, you guys spend so much time together and stuff like that, which of course, obviously, yes, obviously they were young and somehow had a lot of time spend to get them right which people do i mean i remember spending a lot of time with my girlfriends in my 30s but i also think that now people talk about it and talk about how important it is and that

you know like to to nurture friendships you know through your life and through the different phases of your life is so important and i think that's so incredibly true and i also think it's so incredibly risky to say something to your girlfriend sure that you know they wouldn't like like and that can be the end of a friendship it really could Depending on who you say that, too, that could be like game over. I know, which is so sad. I know, but I also think it's so interesting because I think that women, you know, have to kind of, like, a thing on the one hand, there's this kind of perception of like, oh, yes, women just hang out in groups, you know, like it's, like, kind of silly or whatever. But then in reality, we all know that it's not really that easy.

Yes, they can, it can be tricky to hang out with women. And then you find your women who are like your people. Right. And then it's like those are the most supportive, wonderful relationships in the world. And so important. But female relationships can be really tricky. Right. And I think it's because it's not, I don't think it's something for my generation at least that was kind of like worked on or encouraged.

Like you weren't really taught how to be friends. I mean, like it does come easy when you're young. But then I think as you go through the different stages, it's not so easy. And certainly as an actor, I know that one of the joys of getting the show. show was that there were a bunch of women. Women around. That you could, that you knew, okay, we're all in this together. Yeah. Rather than being the wife or the girlfriend or like you might see another woman after,

but you'd be like, oh, there they go. You know, you might not get a scene with them. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I mean, have you found that in your career? Yeah, I spent a lot of time with guys. Right.

Yeah. Because you play cops and like serious people. I know. I get cast as like little toughies. Which is so funny. It's so silly. You know. I'm envious though

I'm very envious It's fun Getting to do I mean For everyone Obviously getting to do A balance of things Is obviously

Of course Yes But yeah I've gotten cast in lots of movies Where it was like a bunch of tough dudes And me And I'm like They're great

You know But also like it does feel lonely Sometimes To be like Oh Where are my Go-Friends Yeah

I think it's really lonely I mean I love to be on the set with all the girls. Yeah. Oh, I love nothing more. Yeah. Nothing more.

I mean, the guys are fun, but like, it's comfy to have the girls. Yeah. It's definitely comfy. That's, yeah, it's one of the best, best parts of this whole, whole, whole, whole long, long, long term job that I've had. I love it so much. And that's really why I never want it to end, you know, because it's hard to find that. It is very hard to find those special groups. Yeah.

That you stay friends with forever. And that's the joy. Is it like with Matthew and your husband? Yeah, exactly. And, you know, it's amazing to get to meet someone so early in your career and stay friends and get to work together again. That is just the best. Yeah. Anyway, okay, let's go back to the show.

Okay. This makes me laugh. I do not remember this storyline of Miranda not for one second. Okay. I was watching it fresh. Yes. In this storyline, she is at the gym, which is also kind of funny to me. I'm like, yeah.

Do we see her at the gym ever? I don't think so. No, not really. I think so. Yeah. So Miranda is interestingly at a very popular and busy New York City gym. Yes. And she's there on the weekend, which is apparently kids weekend.

I've never gone to a gym. And had children running around? No. No way. I mean, very interesting. I would have to ask Terry Minsky, who wrote this, like, if this was based on something, because that was a rule that they had. That it had to be real.

Yeah. So I guess, I guess there were some gyms this was happening at. I didn't go to those gyms either. So there's like children running amok, okay, basically at this gym. So then she's all kind of rolling her eyes in her Miranda way. She looks adorable. You know, like it's just so cute early Miranda. And then she gets in the elevator and there's this very handsome dad there with a kid who wants to push the buttons of the elevator.

We've all been there. Yes, we have. I have a seven-year-old. He, I mean, it's a situation. And I felt so kind of seen on the one hand by the storyline but also embarrassed because I have been the parent saying, please don't. Don't touch the button. Could you let, yeah, so 100%. I know.

Of course, they touch too many. It's so horrifying. I mean, what is that about with children? It's so interesting. So, anyway, the dad asks Miranda not to push the buttons, and the kid then pushes all the buttons. And then the dad apologizing the dad's very adorable. Yeah, cute.

And does find a way to mention that he's divorced, which I thought was really smooth on his part, you know. And then you can see Miranda kind of look at him twice, like, oh, interesting. So then he asks her, she gets out of the elevator, and he asks her to come back in and she does, which is so cute and adorable. Very cute. Very New York kind of a thing.

But the kid, I felt for the kid, because clearly this man seems relatively newly divorced. We don't hear his whole story. But you can feel that he's still figuring out what that looks like and how to do it. Right. And I mean,

sometimes as the episode went on, I wondered, like, where is this mother? Because apparently she's just not around. Not around. Yes. Because he's got this kid. a lot. Yeah.

But also as a single mom, I also really relate. Now, I have never taken my children with me on a date because I never really would. No. I mean, it is like a park later, right? Like, what do you think? Yeah. Like months later, if it's going well. Right.

You know? Right. I would be so nervous. Stroll in the park. With the kid. With the kid. I know. Yeah.

I know. But I also feel this is probably not nice what I'm going to say, but sometimes I feel like dads are clueless. Maybe that's true. Like, I'll see dads at the park sometimes, but sometimes I'm just like, what is this dad doing? Like, can a mom tell the dad, like, don't let the kid do that? You know what I'm saying? I have some anxiety for the dads.

Yes. Well, case in point, I mean, the boy clobbers Miranda over the head with a branch and then isn't disciplined. No. No. I know it. The dad doesn't seem to know what to do. do.

Yeah. Well, Miranda. I know it. She gets clobbered. I know with a pretty big stick in Central Park and that's before he hands are a worm, I believe. Yes. I mean, there's a lot going on.

Yes. And Miranda hangs in there, which is also kind of interesting. Yeah. But I also feel like it's like early Miranda. Yeah. It's different. Yeah. She's sweet.

I mean, she has her cover, but she's also got like a sweetness. Yes, she does. It's adorable. But this guy does seem kind of clueless. You know, this dad, but he's really cute. And at a certain point, they do cut to them in bed and they look very happy. Yes. They think they've had a very nice time.

Right. Yeah. So I guess maybe that's what she's doing. I don't know. But this also cracked me up. When, after we first meet the guy whose name, I can't remember, because he's not going to be around long. So we don't have to use his name. They cut to us at the coffee shop.

And Miranda is talking about how, oh, his name is Roger. And Miranda's talking about because he's divorced, he seems used. Isn't that a weird thing? It's a weird thing to say. No, that's true. I thought that conversation was, yeah, it was a little funny. It was a little odd. It's dated.

It didn't hold up well. It's super dated. No, it is. We would never say that now. Absolutely not. Just because somebody has been married, I mean, you could also say that anyone who has been in a long-term relationship. Oh, you just fell off the microphone. Leave me down.

No. Leave me down there. Okay. It's fine with me. Okay. That anyone's been in a long-term relationship is used. Right. That's not. No, it's horrible and insane.

Yes. There'd be no one left. That's right. Because everybody comes with a context. Yes. Right. Yes. Unless you're 18 years old.

Right. And who would want to be doing that? So yeah, I really was like, when they kind of smash cut into her going like, it's like he's used. And I thought, what is she talking about? Like I had to really catch up a minute. Yes. Like we would, I don't think we'd ever say that now. No way.

No way. Right? Mm-mm. Yeah. Like you'd just be very out of touch if you said that. That's right. Yeah. So it was interesting.

That whole conversation was interesting. But this is why I like to rewatch because some things you're like, oh, whoa. And then sometimes you're like, that's still totally true. Yeah. Yeah. And I do think trying to juggle children and dating is, of course, universal and will probably continue for all of time and is a real thing. I mean, this guy's just not very good at it.

Yeah. And also, I feel bad for this kid because he seems. like he's really suffering that he seems jealous of that of that conversation that right yeah right i mean maybe there's a clue in the fact that this guy says i'm the anomaly actually i just like to be married and yeah right and so maybe he's just like actually trying to slot miranda into this family dynamic faster than right that's a good point i didn't think of that yeah because that is really odd that he says that and i mean i just found myself wondering like what is this dude's backstory? What happened? What happened to the marriage? Where's the wife? What's

what's going on? Where's the ex-wife? How long have you been divorced? I wanted to know more about him that I normally want to know about our like one-off date. But then also we haven't quite gotten there. But his reaction in the next scenes where the boy, I don't know if you want to do the little recap. Go for it because I enjoy that. So it's after, you know, she spent the night and Miranda's having a pee and the little boy starts to come in the bathroom. And of course, she goes to close the door and he gets his head bonked. And then there's like a real overreaction. I feel like on the dad's part. And basically Miranda just gets like shown the door. Right. Yeah. He says please leave. He says it a couple times. Yeah. Hey everybody. This is Matt Rogers. And Bowen Yeang. And you're never

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I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house.

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Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike, this is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista.

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about his wound, the kid's wound. Because when you see it, it's bloody. How did that door make that blood? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's mysterious. Yes. And I remember there being a fair amount,

I don't know at that point in time of our production, like how sophisticated our stuff was do you mean? Whenever you have somebody get bumped or get banged or anything like that, because we don't see him, we just hear it, right? And then cut to, there's blood, you know, which is strange. But I also felt like if we did know more about the dad, I mean, I've certainly overreacted before. Well, yeah, of course. I have two kids. I've definitely overreactive. Right. But it's also weird how, like, the kid kind of looks at her over the show. Like there's something kind of going on where you're like, he just wanted her to go.

Yeah, poor Miranda. I know, and poor the kid. And poor the kid. Poor everybody, really. Yeah. And it's kind of sad because then we really don't hear that much. It's just gone.

Yeah. But, you know, good that she tried, I guess. But also, that's like another show. I feel like that he's his own show. I wonder how, which, which season does Miranda get her own child? That's not. It's for a while. It's a while, but I really thought about it.

But I feel like it was a little like just early crumb. 100%. Because I was thinking. the same thing when I was watching it because I do know at a certain point, season three is when I meet Kyle and get married and then start to try to get pregnant and then she gets pregnant by mistake. So it's not that long. It's because we're almost at the end of two. But I don't know because this is Terry Minsky's script and she wasn't with us all the time. And it was definitely like a long-term plan that Michael had that both she, Miranda and Charlotte would get pregnant at the same

time. That was the original plan. It didn't work out because then Michael decided probably rightly so that because all of our female writers were single and none of our guy writers who I think there were two of them at that time, no one had children. So they were having to mind their friend's stories and they didn't have enough to have two sets of stories because they wanted them to be contrasting stories, which would be interesting. Yeah. But not as interesting as Charlotte not being able to and Miranda accidentally. And then being unsure and all of the. No, it's part of what I just love about the show is that if they're each of these women's expectations of what their life is going to be gets flipped on its head yeah and so they're having to manage like their own

expectations of what their life has become yeah it's powerful it is powerful and so true to life you know someone asked me yesterday I don't know if you get questions like this you're not as old as I am but you know people love to ask you about aging right you know how how are you looking at aging how do you how do you feel how old do you feel inside You know, all the questions, right? Yes. And I mean, I feel very young inside. Of course.

I mean, it's hard to put a number. Right. You know, whatever. Some days, like my husband, who I won't see his name, but like he's like when he looks at his own age, his eyes get real big. And he's like, how is it literally possible? I still feel 18 some days. Oh, I don't know.

I don't personally know how it's possible for me either. I mean, you have to look sometimes at your driver's license to be like, yes, that is me. It doesn't compute at all. Totally. Totally. Totally. But I think that is a blessing, right? Because what does it really even mean? That's true. The good news of what it means and this is what I end up saying. I mean, I think it means two things. Number one, we're doing great. We're healthy. We're happy. We're happy. Right. We're still in it. We're still functioning. We're doing new things. Right. This is great. This is what you want. Secondarily, I remember a lot of anxiety in my 30s. I don't have that. Have anymore. And some of it is what you touched on about our characters is that you have. have expectations, you don't know what's going to happen.

That's right. You don't know if you're on the right track towards those expectations. Or if maybe you need to change your expectations. That's right. You know, there's so many questions like, is it all going to work out? And what do I need to do to tick the boxes that equals happiness? Right. And in reality, you know, none of that is probably even really true.

And that's what I love so much about our writers. I mean, some of it's true. Like, did Charlotte truly want to be married? She did. She did. Or she really wanted the idea of what that was. She did. And then she found out that the outer idea was not what she wanted.

Right. And then she found her real, her real person. Thank God. Thank God she was able to change and grow. And that was their idea. And their idea also was to never give any of us what we wanted because you don't have a show then. You know what I'm saying. I mean, I am lucky that Charlotte got Harry.

I guess I should be, you know, lucky that like nothing happened to him or whatever. Yeah, that's right. Because it was such a growth. I think for Charlotte and what I like about her she's super persistent right so she was going to pursue going to pursue no matter

what the roadblocks were right like she couldn't get pregnant she was going to adopt then she does get pregnant she's going to roll with it she's going to roll with it and I love that effort that she makes but I also think that her ability to roll with it you know brings her depth and

wisdom and changes her focus though sometimes she drifts back which is also what's so interesting thing like you'll drift back to the details right to the things that are the most kind of comfortable and from the way you grew up or whatever it is totally or like the expectations like you started by saying you'll drift back to those expectations and then be reminded again oh no that's not it's not actually life it's not actually what's important which i love i love i can't talk about the others expectations as much as i can talk about charlotte's but as you lived hers for

right right right and i love hers and i had to think through hers you know for so long, which, you know, is a joy, right? Obviously, like a great character thing. Yeah. But it's interesting, too, because if you think about, like, you know, Carrie's expectations are interesting. And one of the things I think about when I do, I think because our show ended and everyone had to talk about how,

and just like that ended versus how Sex and City ended because people were upset. Obviously, when Sex and City, the first show ended because everyone was coupled up and they didn't feel like that rang true. Yeah. But sometimes when I'm watching old episodes, it kind of seems like everyone but Samantha wants to be coupled up like even Miranda

yeah who I had never clocked right because she seems like such a like a driven career woman right but I mean yeah everyone wants love right and what is that look like

and companionship yes right I mean not everybody maybe to be seen definitely I mean Samantha definitely wants to be seen for sure but doesn't really want a relationship right but then she gets one But then she gets coming. But that, yeah, that's like her flip is that she actually wants to keep it easy, breezy short term.

Right. And she gets this long-term relationship with a younger man, you know. Yeah. And then has to deal with cancer and all of, you know. And he's there for her in such a sweet way. That's going to be so interesting. I want to have that Jason Smith on. He's so good.

You guys, this is so much fun that we are going to have to have a part two. So join us later in the week on RU.S. Charlotte. Hey, everybody, this is Matt Rogers. And Bowen-Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas. It is Elle Woods, Tracy Flick, herself. Reese Witherspoon. Louise, it must go in a girls' trip.

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