Are You A Charlotte? - And Just Like That... with Nicole Ari Parker

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Kristin is joined by her co-star Nicole Ari Parker (aka Lisa Todd Wexley) to connect and share their feelings and fondness for their show And Just Like That... From her first day on set as LTW, finding lasting friendships with her costars, and of course the fashion, Kristin and Nicole bond over their beautiful shared experience. Plus, a spinoff idea from Kristin that Nicole Ari Parker finds particularly interesting.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate.

Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. It's a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, terrorism. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. On the new podcast, America's Crime Lab, every case has a story to tell, and the DNA holds the truth. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. This technology's already solving so many cases. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Jennifer Lopez. And in the new season of the Overcomfit Podcast, I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever.

Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth, all from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcomber podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? This is a very, very, very exciting time, you guys, because today,

we have incredible Nicole Arna Parker with us here at Are You at Charlotte? Yes. And we may cry. Okay? Just going to tell you right now, there's my cry. Yes. Because what happened was this. I was at camp with my kids last week in Oregon.

Mm-hmm. And I did know that our announcement was coming. We had a little bit, a little bit of notice. Yes. And we hadn't all talked about it. And I was in Oregon and I thought, I need to call Nicole because I feel like you're my, you're my person, you know? And I was worried we had already scheduled this and I didn't know if you would want to come

talk, if it would be too soon, you know? I just wanted to think about your feelings. And so I tried to call you and I thought it was okay. So I went to the car to call Nicole because I was at this camp full of people and I was, you know, I don't know these people, right? So I went to the camp, the car and I called her, but I couldn't talk. I thought I was fine. And then I just, I couldn't talk.

So I was like, and so either the voicemail didn't record, which is what I'm hoping, or a different Nicole from my past might have a sobbing, sobbing phone call. I'm not sure which, because when I saw Nicole today, I said, I'm so sorry I left you that message because then I felt terrible. And she said, what message? So she didn't get it, you guys. Didn't get one single message from you. But I'm really glad because it was literally like an ugly cry-sobbing situation. Because, you know, the feelings aren't really together yet. I don't know how you're feeling.

Well, you know, I got very attached to you and to the show. And we were just getting started, you and I and everything. and I just feel at the same time grateful and sad because you're legendary and the show was legendary and I'm just grateful I got to be a part of it and get to know you. Yeah, I mean, you for me were like the bright light that came. I mean, all of us have been together for so long as you know. most of us. And then we got you and Sarita. And do you remember our first day of work?

I do. Because it was the first day being back. Nicole had to come into Charlotte's apartment. I was the first one up when we came back after COVID. Obviously hadn't been together. Though the thing that is the silver lining to this whole thing is that as much as the show is ending, they say, I'm trying to believe them. I can't. I don't feel it in my gut. But this is what they tell me, so I'm trying to get with it. As you guys know, this is obviously, I never think it's over, right? This is just who I am. But I'm trying, I'm trying to believe it. But we're all still in each other's lives. So as much as it's an ending, like, sometimes people say, oh, what was it like to be all back together? Well, it's, of course, unique when

you're on a set. You know, it's a different situation on a set. But it's not like I hadn't seen everybody. You know, of course I see everybody in different ways, in different places, not all together, probably. You know what I mean? Or not for 18 hours. right you know in heels right in very high heels but it and of course the thing that i'm mostly i mean i don't even know what i'm mostly said about but the newness of having you and serita join us and and other people too obviously but like substantially you and serita brought so much and you just as an actress i mean i have so many different memories you know if you having to do really hard things like remember that time we went down to that crazy place downtown and

And you have to tell me that you might be pregnant and you might not and you don't know and you've got your documentary. Do you remember this? Yes. It's in the aisles of the high-end grocery items. Oh, my. That's right. That was hard, man. That was so hard.

And you nailed it. But you never think you nail it. I know. Such a glorious thing about you. Because I, you know, I need to tell the viewers that the show that you love that I was blessed enough to be a part of, that that writing is pure drama that has to turn. on a dime and I'm like well I I can do stuff but this is a whole other beast it's hard it's hard yeah and you guys have nailed it and cemented that lovely frequency in stone and so I mean I remember the first scene I shot that was kind of our but it was the group scene the lunch oh yeah that was

my first day of my first scene. I felt for you. I felt for you. And I was always a fan of the show. And I knew the scope of your, you know, the show's global phenomenon, you know. And I'm standing and I'm getting touched up and I'm getting my wardrobe fidgeted with and secured. I'm wearing clothes. I don't even know how to say the names of the designers I'm wearing.

And we were shooting at the Whitney. Oh, yes, the Whitney. We were shooting at the Whitney with all the glass, you know, clear glass windows. And I'm standing kind of away, but you three are at the table and the people outside slowly realize through the glass what's happening. So I turn around after getting makeup touched and there's massive amounts of people freaking out. And I'm like, today is today. Welcome to the world of sex in the city. They were so excited to see you guys.

That was sweet. That was a good day. The thing that I remember the most about that day, I had forgotten that day for your part. And I had to ask you guys if I, in the scene, I had to ask if I could have a French fry. You have to eat. I know. I was like, this can't be happy. I know.

I know. And my scene was that monologue about you because I'm basically telling me. the girls who you are before you enter and it's very long it's like your credentials basically right and they film sin and sarah first over my shoulder so i've been doing this very very lengthy monologue for maybe four hours and then they turn around on me and michael patrick says you know i need more energy and i'm like oh my god because also like it's it's kind of like you're building your legs back up like because this particular job is so hard in terms of the dialogue in terms of shoes in terms of the stamina and then in in and just like that we often go to work at 4 30 in the

morning for right whatever reason because we're in daylight so you're tired you know and i've got that long monologue and michael patrick's like i need more energy and i'm like okay you know what i'm trying to do more energy and then he's like i don't see it in your eyes i'm like well michael patrick you might have seen it in my eyes like six hours ago but of course because it was you and i wanted I wanted, I mean, I'm introducing the viewer to you as well as Carrie Miranda, right? So I wanted it to be, and I hope I pulled it off. Thank you so much. She nailed it.

But I do remember you in those outfits, and they were like so, like, out of the box, you know, like nothing else. And I had to be, I had to act like, oh, this is normal. And how did you feel about that? Well, I was, I'm naturally a bit traumatic so I can handle a caftan. Oh, man, can you ever? Giant necklace and two purses at the same time Because Molly would always give me a second bag I know because she could never she had too much

It was like an abundance of riches I know and so I felt great in the clothes It was more about you guys that I just was so Starstruck you could say Even as a grown up I was like Oh my god For me one of my other really funny memories Which was more recent

When we went back to do this third season season, our day in the park, where we go to the baseball. I don't know if that was, I feel like that was my first day in the park. And you have the longest, most beautiful legs ever created on a human being. And I really, really do not. And I'm wearing a pencil skirt, of course, with some kind of lunatic high shoes. And we're trying to get over those rickety bleachers. And you reach back to take my hand, which was so sweet.

But you're moving at gazelle speed. And I'm moving at like, I don't know, Chihuahua speed or something. I don't know. I'm not capable of keeping up with you. Oh, my God, the stress, the stress. I was like, I'm going to rip this skirt in ways that are not going to be attracted. You killed it. You're so sweet.

But this is how you feel the whole job, whether you've been doing it for one month or 30 years. I really loved our scenes at the kids' school. Oh, my God, yes. Arbor, the Arbor School. Yes. And I just felt like, and we had insane props, bags, and big bags, and always some drama. Always some drama. I think I had to call Cynthia at one point this season. I think I've talked about it on the podcast because I, we sometimes collaborate posts on Instagram, but she has different followers than I have, you know, her fans, my hands, whatever. And her fans at one point took me apart for one of our. our early episodes that I was over the top and wacky and I think it might have been the the one we're talking about, the college prep episodes.

Yes, yes. And I had to call Cynthia because I was like, well, I don't understand what's happening. What's happening? And I mean, this is how I feel a lot in today's world. And she said, first of all, you were absolutely doing the part that you were written. You guys are Lucy and Ethel and you are supposed to be. You were supposed to lean into that because we know where your storyline is going. for both of you, and this was a setup for that, because that's how Michael Patrick thinks.

That's how all of our writers think. They have a long game, and not every episode it's going to be clear what that long game is. You were going to go to a deeper place. I was going to go to a deeper place. For my place, a lot of it was rethinking what's important. And Charlotte's always been the type of character where I get sucked into the details, you know, the how do things look, how do things seem, are we doing everything we could possibly do. You know, like, that's a very

Charlotte core kind of an idea. And so in those episodes that, you know, I'm stressing over, you know, will Lily go to college? Will it be the best college? This is a very real and relatable. You have grown kids. You've probably been through this. Yeah. Right? 18 and 20.

Yeah. It's incredible that you do that, but that you're there. It's like amazing. We'll get to that a second. But anyway, I had to call something and get a little pep talk to say, no, you guys are Lucy and Ethel right now in the show. And that is what was written. And that is what you're supposed to do. And you cannot do Lucy and Ethel without leaning into it. That's right. Right? Yeah. And I just want to thank you for being there with me.

You were just the best partner I could have. It was so much fun. And it's hard. Some days are easier, but for the most part, it's hard. It is hard. And, you know, most people are like, What are you doing next? I'm like, can I just process this for a minute? 100%. So it's a lot. And Nicole just moved to New York. Yes.

With her beautiful husband, Boris, who we must talk about. Yes. So, like, how are you feeling? How is Boris feeling? How's the family? Well, I was, I'm from Baltimore. And I went to NYU. I lived here for 13 years.

Then I got Soul Food where I met Boris in 2000. And we moved to L.A. And we were in Atlanta for a minute. And then we moved to L.A. But I was always a New Yorker. I was always an East Coast girl. I'm a city kid. And so it was so obvious.

Like my family was so exhausted by me. They would be like, we know, Mommy, you want to live in New York and go see theater and meet with your friends and be a pedestrian. So it's good. You got to drive. Like they gave me the monologue almost like every week. Wow. And then one day this year, Boris came in the bathroom.

I was brushing my teeth. there's something and he goes, you want to move? It's time. Wow. But I had to act very cool because I didn't know if my excitement was going to like make him backspace, back pedal, I don't know. So I was like, are you sure? Wow. Really? I was very gentle. Yeah. But we put our house in the market. And I just, you know, yes, the show shoots here and I had an apartment here, but I was doing it for my soul really just not even work like i just wanted this chapter of my life to be in the city and or in new york right i mean we found a house i had to compromise because i like the concrete jungle but boris is from the black forest he's from the woods right and so if we were going to move to the

east coast he needed city adjacent yeah yeah yeah he needed trees i'm with boris yeah we're right on the the hudson river beautiful trees it's beautiful and the dog are thrilled the dogs are like finally we're dogs like chasing squirrels love it yeah love it love it love it so we're very happy so it is feeding your soul in the way that you it's feeding my soul although like Chris Jackson who lives up there too I would have made the 45 minute trek to work every day wow to be with you guys yeah my name is Ed Everyone say, hello Ed. Hello, Ed.

From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

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Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend. friend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass.

The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged. and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop.

Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did.

Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort. It happens in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcomfit podcast as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford, and in session 421 of therapy for black girls, I sit down with Dr. Athea and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right, in terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair, right? that this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled. You talk about the important role hairstylists play in our community,

the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to

therapy for black girls on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Now let's just talk about Chris Jackson for a second. I'm going to have to find a way to have him on the podcast, even though he was never in Sex and the City, but neither were you, but I can do whatever I want, right? It's my podcast. Chris Jackson played Nicole's husband, as I hope you guys know on, and just like that.

And he's an incredible actor. He was the original George Washington in Hamilton, which my kids are like fully obsessed with him now. everyone is obsessed with him I know but they didn't know when they first came to set they hadn't had their Hamilton discovery moment and now they're just in disbelief like mommy you got to work with him I'm like yeah I'm pretty sure you guys met him

but he wasn't dressed as you're right right they just didn't realize so it's all very funny now but you know what a dream team you guys I mean in my mind I'm just going to say this I don't know if it can happen.

I guess it probably can't, but like, I want to see your show. Oh. Wouldn't it be amazing? I don't know how to make that happen, but your whole family's existence, I love so much.

Wow. Everything about it, all of your children, when you guys get dressed to go to the funeral of your father's character, just it's a whole world that I want to be in.

I was just talking about this, And that the show, the writers, MPK, really did a great job in that, you know, they didn't slap spaghetti on the wall. They didn't make the black family cookie cutter. They really fleshed out everything, like, you know, the art on the walls, the coffee cups I drank out of. We were trying on that art. And, you know, you guys made Karen Pittman's character real and my character real. in a way that I was just, I was proud to be a part of, you know. And so, yeah, I don't know. You never know.

You never know anything, right? You never know anything. But then you have Billy D. Williams play my father. I mean, what a dream. And Jennifer Lewis. Jennifer Lewis. It was incredible. It's incredible. Casting did their thing, yeah. Didn't he? Yeah. But also that was Susan. You know, that was Susan Fells Hill, who,

really had those inspirations and basically wrote that part for Jennifer Lewis and made it happen. You know, she's the engine behind. Do you remember the table read? Yes. Oh, my God. She threw down like the whole house was like, what? Oh, it was incredible. At the table.

I know. Those table reads were epic. I wish people could see them. I agree. Because they are a very old school thing that we still do, that Michael comes from that, you know, old school. sitcom world where the table read was very important and if if jokes didn't hit they would get cut right which i kept trying to explain to my pretend children like please act at the table read because i want your jokes to bring it yes but they're kids and they don't they're they're trying

to be real or whatever or quiet i don't know what they were trying to do subtle but my mommy self was like guys you get louder um you know hit it hit it but because back in the olden days as is kind of obvious when you watch the old episodes. Mostly I am just wowed by the old episodes because I never rewatched till now, which is part of the fun of the podcast. I would watch once when it would, right before it would air,

they would give us a VHS. And then I hadn't watched in many years. There's A storyline, B storyline, C storyline, D storyline. D storyline, you probably don't get much because there's just not time. They're 22 minutes, right? So if you went to that read-through and didn't give it your all, you were probably on the chopping block.

Or maybe they filmed it and then it might get cut if it wasn't strong enough. But most of the time they would not have the money. They would gauge it from the table read. Does this work? Is it not landing? All that. Right. And I remember the table reads being so powerful that I cried.

Oh, me too. I would cry at the table read while eating my little finger sandwich. Yeah. It was rough sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's such good actors.

I know. Yeah. And also the funny thing is that in the olden days, we were in a room like this size. But do you remember how big our table we got? I know. We're just like, with really lovely finger sandwiches. 60 people. I was like, can I take some of this home?

Definitely. But also like you're like at a theater. It's like a theater performance in a weird way in a circle. Yeah. A circular theater performance. I know it's crazy to think about it. And everyone always asks me, what is Kristen like for real? What is S.J. What is Cynthia?

What do you say? And I'm like, she is everything. She's so beautiful inside and out. So funny. So sincere. And like one of the through lines of the things I would really feel about you three was that these are real women. They have full lives. They don't have their head in the sand. they know what's going on in the world

they are humans to the fullest and I was just I just fell in love even more thank you I mean I do think that's true it's like when you have had this kind of weird level of success

which of course we're so thankful for but people really do think that we're our characters and we're really not you know do you think that yeah I know it I mean we kind of are but we kind of aren't I mean the essence of the character characters, you know, of your real persons are there.

Right. But the facts of your real life are so grounded and human and actual like lifeing is happening. 100% life thing is happening. And that you fit right in, obviously, which is such a joy. But the funny thing, too, is like, I had been on other sets back in the day before we started. And it's not that those people weren't real or weren't grounded. but like the things that they would talk about at work would be like shopping or golf or you don't I'm trying to say working out like very actressy things but like you said we had to become a family

really fast yeah and and just I what I loved about you know people talk about being a grownup is like I love that we're grown me too you know like maybe when I was 20 I would have talked to you about what I shadow you were wearing but like and we kind of do still talk about what I'm We might have that moment of the day, right? We might have it today, people, because you are killing it with the shoes today. And you were killing it, baby. So I was like, you don't understand we have real conversations about what's going on in the world. Our kids, our life, you know, and it was very fulfilling on screen and off.

Oh, that makes me so happy. And that's the thing, like your post that you posted was so sweet and so many, like Alexander Bello, like so many people have posted. and it is so deeply satisfying to know that we did create a place where people felt happy and welcome because that is so important to us and so important to us when we were reconvening because we knew we wanted to expand the show

and we knew that we needed to make it a safe place for people to be who were new and we knew that was intimidating and weird to come into a show that you've already watched. You know, like where would you rank that in terms of like on your mind when you came? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it was a different show, obviously, but yet kind of similar.

I was excited. Got it. You know, it was half professional, half fan girl. Ah, that's good. That's good. You know, like, I wanted to come do my best. Yes, and you did. I felt lucky and honored to be a part of it.

But I was also the first couple of episodes just a little starstruck, you know. And I'm a grown-up seasoned actor, and I was still a little like, oh, my God. You didn't seem it. You didn't seem in at all. You were fun. You were fun right away, you know? As was Sarita. Yeah.

The two of you are like so chill. You know what I mean? You really are. Like I felt like it was just seamless. Wow. I did. I really did. I mean, I did, you know, obviously the whole whole costume situation.

I was like, wow, whoa, what on earth. Oh my gosh. She can pull this off. And whoa, it's incredible. But you were just. like a breeze you know like the valentino moment i mean like they showed me when the headpiece arrived at costume i remember that day yes they showed me and i was like i was like people in the back it was a full crate a full crate of this incredible i'm sure you guys have seen the image but if not

we'll put it on the social media it's an incredible headpiece that covered her face okay i was like what it was like silence of the lambs under there yeah like full the philip trisi made it was on the the you know in rome the fashion show in rome it just premiered right i was so scared i was like don't mean Nicole wear this but did you not only wear it you like run down fifth avenue in that thing i mean it was incredible it was we could not have cast you better ever in our wildest dream you're just a dream Nicole thank you really are i think it took like 50 years for me to be who I was when I was like a little girl, you know? My mom had bracelets and scars in the 70s and Diana Ross in mahogany outfits.

And so I would play in those clothes. But I also went to a private school. So I wore uniforms my whole life, like second to 12th grade. And so here I was as an adult. And so I played lawyers and I was very pulled together. And I was like, finally. Oh, I love it. Oh, there's no better place to play than our world.

Yeah. That's the other sad thing. And, you know, the wardrobe also, Molly and Danny, they did a lot of kind of feeling research, like what they wanted to feel like. So the funeral scene, for example, you know, it was Coretta Scott King and Jackie O at their husband's funeral, Dr. King's funeral. and they really knew the historic power in a lot of the clothes that I was wearing. Absolutely. And I were very intentional about that. Absolutely.

And that just made me even more comfortable. So when she handed me two bags, I was like, I trust you, girl. I know Cleopatra must have done this. Absolutely. Absolutely. And yes, you should play Cleopatra. Oh, my God. What a great idea.

We're never teetied. Ooh. Mm-hmm. I know. The creativity just starts to bubble. I know. I love it. All right. Is there anything else you want to talk about before we move on? No. Let's do it. It's fun. It's so much fun. You're just so easy and joyful. I feel like you have just so much joy in everything you do. Thank you. I really do. You remember when we were running around doing that press? You just had so much joy. It's so nice. I'm serious. I was exhausted like you were. People don't realize it was like 47 interviews in one day. Like every four minutes.

Every four minutes. Every four minutes. It's hard. And in heels and lashes. And I would look over at you and just be like, she's amazing. And that's what I thought about you. You're amazing and so incredibly chic. Oh, my God.

Thank you. And for people who don't know, like, it takes a lot for Kristen to say that's enough. And this girl would be like beat down, cannot even say. say another word before she would say, can I just get a glass of water? Just give me a minute. That's true, too. Every once in a while, I do have to remind myself that it's okay to ask for a break. Yeah. You know? Because I think we're both really good girls as much as we're also grown women. Yes.

And I love that about you. And I feel like that also was like kind of a really special meeting place for LTW and Charlotte. You know, like we had that kind of similar DNA. But at the same time, we have to be there for each other. Like, it's okay to say it's hard to climb these rafters or whatever the heck. Do you mean? It's okay to say that when you're getting up in your extremely structured couture skirt at the funeral after sitting on it for five hours or whatever it was, can we have a moment to fix ourselves? Yes. You know what I mean?

And you would just get a little bite of a sandwich. And they'd be like, we need you. You would get your lash fixed. I know. You'd be like, okay, now I'm ready. It's so true. It's so true. It's such an interesting thing.

And I think it's an interesting thing about being a woman where you just feel like you're supposed to be all put together at all times no matter what, you know, and that it's okay not to be. You know? Yeah. And I also think, I saw this other thing and I wanted to ask you your thoughts on it. I was looking at the press about the end of the show, which is quite interesting. I know.

Right? So interesting. So interesting. And I'm collecting some ideas of how to talk about it on the podcast. Maybe I have some experts on. Someone wrote in the Atlantic a really interesting article about the lack of true dialogue in our social media kind of world that it's more just like shouting at each other and not actually deeply looking at something, which is interesting. And also there's interesting thoughts and ideas about the parisocial relationship that people have with. actors and celebrities and the projections and the amount of projection and kind of losing the

limits of, you know, and the safety of being able to project and have no reciprocation. Like I can just throw tomato sauce on these people. Right, wherever I'm feeling that day, right? Because it literally took hours of us saying that the show was ending for people to be writing love letters to it, the people who had previously been very angry of whatever perceived misstep we had made in their mind or whatever. It was really amazing. So when I'm looking through the list of all the different articles, I see this one and it says the erasure of Charlotte York.

And I'm like, wait, what, wait, what? Who erase me? Well, what, what, what? And I read the article. And it was by kind of a fashion magazine or digital magazine, I think. And it basically said, number one, that when I started, this is almost 30 years ago, when I started, I had frills in my clothing and where were they? Okay. That's 30 years ago.

Do we not want to change and grow a little bit? Like Charlotte has stayed pretty true to her fashion sense. But it's 30 years later, I don't really think I need any more frills that I already have, people. I have traversed the frill landscape thoroughly. Right? And if I were wearing frills, I think they'd be complaining about that. And then the second thing they complained about in this article involves you, which is why I wanted to get your thoughts on it. Remember the scene where we're walking, it was one of the last ones we filmed.

We're walking and talking about your flirtation at work. You're flurking. And you're kind of telling me about it because you can't really talk about it. You're feeling a lot of guilt, even though you've done nothing with your flirtation at work. But you're feeling bad because you have a great marriage, right? And you, obviously, your marriage is incredibly important to you. And so you're talking to your friend about your, you know, I feel so uncomfortable about these thoughts and dreams that I think I had a dream, right? So, and I say something to you like, you know, you have a connection at work and isn't this

what we want? You're in a creative job and you have a creative connection at work. So the person writing this article was all upset. You know, Charlotte York would never say that. Charlotte York would look down on that. Charlotte York would not be supporting that. That's not Charlotte York, right? Like very adamant.

And to me, I think that's insane because why wouldn't there be some growth in Charlotte? that she would be less judgmental than she might have been 30 years ago. And also, you're coming to me for, you know, like reassurance and compassion and empathy, not judgment. Why would I judge you? You're not going to do anything, and I know you're not going to do anything. So I'm trying to make you feel better about your own thoughts because you already feel so bad. Yeah, well, I thought that that was such good writing because it showed that, like exactly what you said, that these two women are actual friends in the sense that they really care about the choices they're about to make.

And then for you to say that was kind of like honoring the morality of Charlotte by putting this attraction in perspective. Like, this is just a creative space that gets the feelings going, but it's just a creative space. I thought that was like the most wholesome thing you could say to your friend and bring all of that fire down in your friend and don't ruin your marriage. Right. And don't overblow it. Right. And I just... Isn't that crazy?

It's crazy. But I think when I hear that, you know, I think it was more about the writer. Right. That... Right. That doesn't seem like that at the time. Yeah. That clickbait headline, the erasure of Charlotte York.

And then you actually read it and you're like, uh, what? I don't agree with anything this person's saying. No offense to you, whoever you are. I don't remember your name. But it just goes to show that like, I feel like we're in this crazy time. I know. Behave myself. Behave, Kristen.

It's a crazy time is really just what I want to say where it's like the forest or lost for the trees or whatever that phrase is. Yes. Can't see the forest for the trees. Can't see the forest for the trees.

Yes. I feel like it's like that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like the nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking, knit picking, where you don't even know the whole what's coming.

It reminds me of all of the family in a way. Yeah. Archie Bunker was representing a voice and they let him say those things on the show. And when the Jeffersons were their neighbors before they had their spinoff. And every now and then,

Archie Bunker would have a moment of kindness or clarity or open to thoughts. And I read somewhere that people would get outreach, that he still wasn't like, bam, bam, bam. But as a kid, watching that, I was like, I was warmed by those moments. The complexity. And the complexity of that.

Even if my young brain couldn't process it, I was like, oh, right. That's the right thing to say, you know, in my child like mine. And that's how I felt about that scene. Yeah. And you know what a wonderful thing, though, that people responded to that we didn't even realize was our scene in the pool. Oh. I got hundreds and hundreds of comments about every aspect of that scene. The silence between us, the fact, I mean, people saw our race in the.

that scene and that how simple two women can be friends and that all the differences in them don't matter when friends are friends yeah i got just exposés on it amazing and it was just a small scene that we both were like don't fill my butt totally and i'm in a bathing thank god we're in the water because it's a hundred degrees can we go up to our neck exactly do you know that's beautiful well that's the power that's the power of of film i think yeah you know and sometimes we forget about the power and the little things. That's really well put. And I'm glad that you got that.

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