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Episode Date: September 18, 2025We continue this provocative conversation with Sarita Choudhury and this time, the hot topic is: "Can you pull off two dates in one night?" Plus, these two And Just Like That pals feel their feel...ings on the entire Sex and the City universe and And Just Like That coming to an end. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.
Five, six white people pushed me in the car.
Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
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Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte?
Welcome back, everybody, to Are You a Charlotte? Part two. Thanks for joining us.
Here we go.
So Carrie's at home, and she's, she's, this is what I find depressing.
So she says, I wondered, were we all just victims of conditional, conditioned responses,
doomed to repeat the same unconscious relationship patterns,
were we all, in fact, just dating the same person over and over again?
So fucking depressing.
So depressing.
I mean, but so good also.
So good.
So good.
It's almost like a thought that is pre-therapy and more brilliant.
Yeah.
Do you know?
Yes.
And I'm afraid the answer is probably yes.
Yes.
But then, and then we show, we still have some people talking to the camera, which is also funny.
Right?
It's like avant-garde weird theater land.
Totally.
But in Dirty New York, so it kind of is cool.
Totally, totally.
And it gets better.
Like compared to first season, I think it's really better.
So much better.
And it's a great device used well, but it's funny at the beginning.
It is really funny.
Yeah, you're like, oh my God, we're back to this.
Okay.
And then we see poor Samantha, who's in her very red bedroom, golden red, hearing the people having the sex through the wall, which I was just like, oh, this is depressing me.
This is depressing me.
That's how I felt.
Then, Carrie says that she's feeling, quote, restless.
Yes.
Which made me laugh because she paused.
is ever so slightly before she says the word restless.
You're like, oh, yes, I know what she's saying.
And then she calls Dean Winters character.
Yes.
We're just going to call him Dean Winters.
Yes.
His name is John, which is kind of funny, but we ignore that.
And she says something like, you know, can you come over?
Oh, we're going to have drinks after work at 630.
Yeah.
Which is interesting.
And he seems like a very together, like he said, I thought he was a finance guy.
Later on we find out he's like a phone
cell phone salesman
That was shocking
Yeah you're like you have to really go back in your mind
Like what is he actually talking about time?
You're buying time
But remember back in the day
We're like you didn't want to use your minutes
Oh always right
Oh no right you used your minutes
I put in $50 like a week ago
That's what he did
That's what he did I thought he was like a stock stock salesman
When you first meet him yeah
Right
And then it becomes a bit sadder
It was a bit sadder when he doesn't like sushi too.
I remember when he walks, am I jumping ahead for the question?
You are, but I don't care.
He walks into her apartment and you know what broke my heart?
He was like something about, well, I have a dinner plans at 8 and she's like, oh no, so do I.
I have.
And that's when you know how insecure both are.
Because I think the problem is when you have someone you call just for sex, you are always
checking to see, but are they in love with me?
I think the truth of it is one of you wants a relationship.
See, that would be me and that's why I don't have a fuck buddy.
Me too.
That's why I don't.
Because I always think, oh, I'm going to be like the other girls and pretend it's not.
Right.
But of course I want him to be my boyfriend.
Right.
And then my friends would say that's not.
You don't.
Right.
But it's too hard in the moment.
Like I'm just can't.
I just can't turn off the other things.
But I knew she was lying when she was like, oh, yeah, no, I have.
Right.
There was something in it.
I was like, oh, that's so tenuous our little lies we tell to protect ourselves in dating.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
I know it was sad.
But I also felt like, well, at least they're on the same page.
I kind of thought.
You're right.
Right?
You're right.
Because we know Carrie's not in love with him.
No.
Even though she's going to give it her best effort.
No, there's something even about it.
Yeah.
Which I liked.
Yeah.
But then, of course, they messed it up, which was sad.
So anyway, then we go, this was the weirdest storyline for me, for Charlotte, because first of all, I remember nothing.
Nothing of any of this.
Sometimes I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to do when I'm watching.
I'm like, I don't remember this.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
I'm going to have sex with these guys?
I have no idea.
Is it because it was such long hours every day non-stop?
And because we're shooting twice, two at once, as you know, right?
And I mean, there are certain clothes that I remember.
Like, I have, there's a cream-colored dress.
I have it still in my closet.
Sometimes I look at it and I think, like, when did I wear that?
don't know. I wore it in this episode. And there's a green sweater that I recognized. And I have
a picture of Cynthia and I, like a continuity type picture, Polaroid, from that restaurant scene.
And I don't look happy. I don't look happy. So I think it was some stress going on in my life
and lack of sleep. You know what I'm saying? So there's like a sleep. The hours you guys did
back then? Totally bonkers. Totally bonkers. But I do love the weird storyline of Charlotte trying to be
like a man and trying to double book herself.
So great.
It's so funny.
And it looks so modern.
They look kind of like it's not that they could be right now.
Like there's something definitely.
I loved that.
I loved it too.
I was worried that I was going to try to have sex with them.
I was like, have Charlotte lost her mind?
No, I know.
But no, she hadn't.
She was just trying to date them.
But then, of course, it blows up in her face immediately, which is so perfect.
So perfect.
And the one guy with a floppy hair seems like he clearly.
would have been a nice guy for Charlotte,
but she's now ruined it,
trying to take her girlfriend's advice.
You know what I mean?
So this morning I was thinking about that.
I was like, wow, she took her girlfriend's advice and this happened.
And then I was thinking, we need our girlfriend's advice.
Yeah.
Because it propels us.
Yeah.
But the problem is we don't need to do the exact advice.
I think we need to head somewhere.
I think we need to like take it in and filter it a bit.
Like you asking him in your yoga outfit, like, oh, do you want to have dinner?
I love that.
It gave me hope, and I was like, oh, but then when you had to leave, and I was like, oh, God, that's not Charlotte.
No, and it's going to fail.
I obviously made a choice to kind of that it wasn't Charlotte.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, exactly.
It's funny to watch your acting, too.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that is such a cute little fake, scratchy throat I'm doing there, but that's okay.
Oh, I love that kind of acting in early shows.
I do because there's something about this show that sometimes,
there's so much you have to do and then sometimes you literally they're losing the light and like any show
it's not unique in that sense but because it's comedy sometimes I find myself even playing sima there's a bit of
egg on my face I don't mind it right because I realize for the pace of this show you can't hit
everything perfectly if not there's no humanity yes so I almost like when I see something like
you just said yeah I think the egg on the face is integral integral integral needed yeah
Definitely.
Yeah. And sometimes they write it, but then sometimes it's just there.
No, sometimes in group scenes, it's always there because of timing and they're very hard.
And they're very hard.
And I'm learning to like them.
I'm glad.
Yeah.
Egg on face.
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Run the Q rating.
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Okay, so let's go back to the Carrie and John, Dean Winter's relationship.
When they go on the date, it's just the saddest thing in the world.
And I feel so bad for him because clearly they don't know anything about each other.
No.
Other than that they seem to enjoy each other in bed, you know, which is something.
And they know how to behave in that zone.
Right. They've got the rules.
They've got a constructed situation.
Then they go out of the constructed situation.
It falls apart so quickly.
I mean, it almost looks like he's never been to a restaurant with a woman.
He wants a burger.
And he doesn't like sushi.
I'm like, dude, you need to pretend to like sushi with Carrie.
I know.
It's sad.
No, it's so sad.
That episode, you're right.
I don't think any of the episodes had that feeling for me where I was like, I don't know what to do.
I know.
But it could be because you and I don't relate as much to this dilemma, maybe, as people.
I also think, I also think it's because I think theoretically, like structurally, we know, for instance, that the big Carrie relationship is going to have highs and lows and all of the different things and sadness, right?
Yes.
And we expect that, right.
You're right.
But when we're outside of that, we are.
not expecting kind of a one-off episode called The Fuck Buddy to have such sadness.
Yeah.
I still am shocked.
You're so right because we expect that thing with Carrie's character and her arc, but it's like she was shocked.
Totally.
It was like she thinks it's all going to work out.
Yeah.
And also because it's not she's in love with him, it didn't have to go that far to work out and he couldn't even get there.
No, I know.
That's what's so sad.
It's not even like we're expecting miracles.
which is expecting a dinner to go well
It's like the law of the universe
Don't mess with real feelings
And you don't invent fake feelings
Yes, don't try to put like a square peg in round hold
Or whatever that phrase is
Right, it's going to go wrong
Right, it's so true, it's so true
Yeah
Now the one exciting moment of it all
Is when Miranda leaves the angry guy at the table
Do you remember he's like
So he's trying to get, he's angry about
literally everything like at one point she's trying to hail a cab and he's like you can't hail
a cab on that side of the corner and she's like no no i have and then he hails a cab and then he
kind of pushes her in the cab no i know and then she's like but i like it when he pushes me around
in sex which i mean this is like such a big issue we could have a whole episode just about that
the only thank god it's cynthia doing it yes because there's something about cynthia that's
just like whatever and then other time she's like no and both of those qualities in her could
handle this one hundred percent you're not worried for her at all you're not worried for her at all
and she's kind of like why do I like it so much in sex but nowhere else which is a good question
it's not really ever answered but it's a good question to just leave out there and so luckily
she says you know he's going to find out if he makes partner and then I'm sure he's going to lighten up
so then he finds out he makes partner and he's just bitching and moaning and bitching and moaning about
you know hours and she doesn't get the pressure on him and whatever and then she
just gets up and leaves and it's super exciting and satisfying super exciting and
it would do you know what it was that even that relationship it was like wait how did it get to
that point how did how did Miranda think that he was going to change getting
without seeing it it was a good point it was frustrating it was frustrating just to to go
on that journey. I agree. And that's why the episode's kind of sad. You know what I mean?
That's why the episode's sad. Because really nothing works out that great. Poor Samantha tries to
break down the wall between her and her neighbors and it doesn't go well. Like it's just
sad all the way around. And not even with Samantha, she'll take any sad situation to make it
still like a bit of a hip thrust and she can't. No. So that's why it's sad. Yeah. This reminds
me of my mom at the time that we were doing the show in the beginning.
she was really mixed feelings about about the show and it makes so much sense now.
I mean, at the time, I was just like, oh, mom, it's fine.
You know what I mean?
No, but Kristen, yeah.
But she was like, well, I just don't want to think that this is what, you know, dating is like for you.
And I was like, it's not, you know, which in reality, it kind of was, but I mean, not to this level, obviously.
No, and also your mom is watching the show with the lighting and with everything.
You weren't.
You were doing the show and watching.
So she was really seeing the whole New York.
Yes, yes, which is not her world at all.
And this reminds me of something that we wanted to talk about,
which is the difference between the experience of making a show,
then the experience of watching that same show that you made,
and then hearing other people who were not part of the show discussing it,
and how completely dissonant.
It can be.
It is, you know, I never want to come off as the, you know, when you're an actress, you think you get better understanding this, right?
But I don't, this show, because it's such a cultural phenomenon, so people join in without you being in a discussion, the discussion begins.
Yes.
So I'm learning this only in this show, but I think what's wild is the other day I was doing an interview.
And I think that's when it really hit me.
I was like, oh, she's watching a show, then I'm not watching.
Yep.
It just hit me finally.
Yeah.
I've understood variations of that thought, but there's no way when you do a read-through, that's in your head when you watch the show.
The edits are like, oh, they chose that.
Right.
We can't watch the show as it is.
Right.
And because people either love or want to talk.
talk about or angry at some issue, they want us available. And I sometimes don't know what
they're saying because I have not seen the same thing. Definitely. Sometimes I don't know what
they're saying either. Yeah. I'm just like, what? Yeah. What? Like, you know,
and you think I'd be used to it after all this time. But I'm not. I'm really not. I'm really not.
You've often said something that I'm like, oh, she's not used to it yet, which kind of makes me
happy that it hasn't that you've kept this human kind of like okay what is this right but also
it just shows maybe we're not supposed to be good at it like right you know and sometimes I feel
bad because like someone will ask me something they have so much excitement right and I don't know
what they're asking right well well I think somehow we're supposed to be experts about their
experience but yes i mean i do feel like we're experts about what we've made which people seem to
sometimes doubt which is really interesting right um because i mean it should be easy right yeah
which obviously it's not easy at all but also like we're in it i can't be objective exactly also
also we're insecure we barely pulled it off yeah so then when we're being asked about whether
it's a good or bad thing right i that was take number seven
And I, oh, I'm so glad I'm not embarrassed by it.
Like, you know, there's so many thoughts we have that are different.
And I also think, I think that we're in a crazy time, you know, culturally in terms of the dialogue or lack thereof of true dialogue maybe.
Like that there's like people are very, very black and white about things, you know, in terms of like, I hated that.
I love that.
I hated that.
I love that.
There's not actual conversations sometimes.
Yeah.
And it happens with us.
Like sometimes I'm in a conversation even with a friend and they'll bring up something that they want to talk about that isn't even in my scenes.
Right.
And I'm not sure why they're asking me.
Right.
But they care so much.
Right.
And so I'm learning anyway.
I'm learning because I never want.
I'm always scared of coming off a bit like.
an asshole
oh my god
no no because when it happens
people don't realize we get hurt
yeah like I first get hurt
yes then I go
they don't mean it that way so they don't mean it right right
so then I try to understand it but that takes
time and they're just like looking at me
right with this weird expression right so
but this is the thing
this is the thing that I come back to
I mean number one
we can't control
how people perceive things right
We just can't.
We just can't.
We just can't. It's like a 12-step type of a situation, right?
Like, you have to admit, like, I cannot control that.
Second of all, we have to be able to create.
Yeah.
And we have to stay open to be able to create.
Yeah.
And that's not easy.
No.
Ever.
And definitely not right now in time.
No.
In our culture.
So there's some protection that you need to create for yourself.
And partly because of the podcast, I'm more out in the world of the, of the
conversation that I would normally be because I'm trying to kind of figure it out more and
use it for the podcast. I love that you're being um yeah how do I say this you're being very like
whatever comes up to your brain is I love that because it's the one thing you're not allowed to do
with the show because you don't want to offend people you don't you don't you don't I kind of find that
very refreshing thank you it's scary I bet it's scary no I bet it's
scary because we mess up with people's names and right but look at the love even when we're
talking about something that we're like whoa I still love it yes one's not I'm not going to talk about
it right right I mean British accent just came out I know I love how your accent comes and goes so
much when I'm a bit jet lagged when I'm tired like a full two words will come out and it's like a
fish coming out of my mouth that I'm just like no all of it's good all of it's good this is what
I love so much about you like you could talk to Sarita about
so many different countries that she's actually lived in.
Like, it is so cool.
Well, can I say one thing talking about countries?
So I just came back and my friend Lorena is addicted to the show.
Okay.
Both the old and the new.
And it's so sweet because when we're there, it airs Friday nights.
Here it airs Thursday.
And every Friday we'd be at the beach and doing our thing.
And she'd be like, no, Sarita, we go.
It's dropping.
It's dropping now.
And I was like, definitely.
And she knows me so well.
She goes, I know you're not as excited as me.
And I was like, no, I may be more excited than you.
And she goes, okay, I know it's drama in head with the actress.
I don't know.
Okay, we're going to go.
And I watch Lorenna, watch the show.
And it's like watching Spanish watch our show, getting it, getting it in a – I don't know.
It's an experience to watch the show abroad.
Absolutely.
And see the love.
and see the, and was kind of,
and just hearing the comments.
I loved it.
That's so nice.
Yeah.
It's so nice to hear.
Yeah, it is.
I mean, we just have to do it
and let it go out there
and it's going to do what it's going to do, right?
And sometimes it's hard to remember that
because obviously there's a lot coming at us, you know?
But then I think that's also why, you know,
we're together and we can be together in it all.
Yeah.
Right?
That's how I felt coming here today.
I was like, oh, I needed this,
and I haven't had this.
We've done a lot of press.
And I was like, even I can feel it now.
Like, I don't even know.
Usually I'm aware of my hair or my face or my, I don't, I'm not really aware.
Like, part of me thinks when I watch it, it's going to be like, but that's so rare, right,
when you're in conversation on camera.
Right.
Well, because this is what I love about podcasting is that I wanted to have the flow.
Yeah.
Right?
And the only way to have the flow is to just go where it goes.
So sometimes I apologize, sweet listeners, if I did not recap enough for you, some people want more recap. Some people want less recap, right? But like for me, the joy of this is being in it. Yeah. With whomever has come to be with me. No, I can't even remember what I thought we might talk about because I'm literally just following you. Which is great. It's a joy. I love it. Me too. I love it too and I love having you. I love having you. I love having you. I'm not having you. You're having me.
Yes, but both.
here. It's a two-way street, baby.
Hey, everybody. This is Matt Rogers.
And Bowen-Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Lost Cultureistas.
It is Bradley Jackson, Elle Woods, Tracy Flick herself.
Reese Witherspoon.
We must go in a girls' trip. I have to have a tequila.
We must.
Oh!
The Q rating.
C-Rating.
When they run diagnosed.
We can run it on you guys.
I'd be scared.
I'll run the Q rating.
No, on the Q rating on us.
My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye.
My resiliency score.
My grit.
I got to get my grit score up.
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That's the podcast.
And we're not going to at least bring up Big Little Lies season three.
Whoever said orange is the new pink.
Seriously.
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Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one.
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I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country.
Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized?
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This individual might lose the faith.
But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.
And that's what I believe in.
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There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other,
sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country.
This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.
Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos.
as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose
between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp
designed to be hell on earth?
Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.
He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.
Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps,
are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs
that mimic military basic training.
These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life,
emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor,
and rehabilitation programs.
Mark had one chance to complete this program
and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months.
The first night was so overwhelming,
and you don't know who's next to you.
And we didn't know what to expect in the morning.
Nobody tells you anything.
Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.
We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.
But what they find is not what they expected.
Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
They go, is this your daughter? I said yes.
They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years.
Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them,
the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray.
Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light.
Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.
From the studio who brought you the Pikedin Massacre and Murder 101, this is Incells.
I am a loser. If I also wouldn't date me either.
From the dark corners of the web, an emerging mindset.
If I can't have you, girls,
I will destroy you.
A kind of subculture, a hidden world of resentment, cynicism, anger against women.
A seat of loneliness explodes.
I just hate myself.
I don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it.
At a deadly tipping point.
Incells will be added to the terrorism guide.
Police say a driver intentionally drove into a crowd killing 10 people.
Tomorrow is the day of retribution.
I will have my revenge.
This is Incells.
Listen to season one of Incells starting September 24th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm just going to briefly touch on the fact that, unfortunately, as far as we know, we do not get to go and be together for 18 hours a day.
I know.
Still sinking in.
Still sinking in.
Not 100% there.
Totally.
So sad.
So sad.
And so beautiful.
You're almost saying it in the way I feel it, like not real words are coming out yet.
It's true.
It's true.
But also I have been through this before where we're saying goodbye, but then we don't ever really say goodbye.
And for me, we all are so alive in me.
You know what I'm saying?
That's so beautiful, Kristen.
Don't you feel?
I feel like also this is, it's so different.
My feelings are one, and then there's yours, which is the first and then a different iteration.
And it's a lot, but I love what you've just said, which is often when you think it's an end, it's not whatever that means, right?
And that just made me understand something right now, but I'm glad when you left that message for Nicole that didn't go, that it allowed you to cry.
Because sometimes, don't you find it's when someone answers the phone that that's when you cry?
Yes.
So maybe there's some kind of a trigger or something.
And I think also because Nicole and I, you know, when she began the show,
was like when I had to cry for weeks with her, you know, so that, because of begs death, right?
Do you remember this?
Yes, yes.
That was how we began our relationship.
So I think there's also like this established freedom that I have with her to share those kind of deeper things, right?
And also I was just trying to check in on her.
So then I was sad that she didn't get the message.
because I was trying to check in or no, though my feelings, like, poured out.
I mean, now she knows it fully, Nicole.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
But I think also it's interesting because you had left me something and that just like, just seeing your name and then Cynthia did and then Sarah Jessica.
And it was interesting because it allowed me when I heard Sarah Jessica's, I was.
It just allowed me to let it go and also just think of you guys because you, I don't even know how this was able to happen and how amazing.
It is.
It really is.
And you brought us on, which is so beautiful.
But, yeah, I keep thinking of you guys.
And I keep thinking, oh, they must have so many different emotions, different days.
And it's going to take a long time for you to form a sentence.
For sure.
For sure, for sure.
But it's nice.
This is my first public.
You're doing great.
Sentence with you, which is what a great place to do it.
I know.
It's a great place to do it because we're free and we're just ourselves.
And there's no lens of any other, you know, journalist or whatever here.
Obviously, there's just us.
And I also think it's going to continue to evolve.
And, I mean, I'm just so grateful that we were able to do the show we wanted to do.
Oh, Kristen.
And to bring you guys on such incredible bright lights.
for us like inspiration for us grounding for us it was i mean obviously we love each other but we
love you guys too so much but you know and that's not a given right i think when people don't when
people ask me about you or and obviously i'm not going to i don't talk much about it but the one thing
i think that shocks them is when i'm like they're really regular gals who are hardworking actresses
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're actors.
Yeah.
And, um...
But really regular.
Right?
I know.
It's funny.
You have real friendships between you three.
And I think that just sounds like I'm lying.
So when I say it...
Because there's such cynicism, I think.
Sure.
Yeah.
And wouldn't it be fun, the story was the opposite?
Yeah.
So then when I say, when they're like, how is it for you and for Nicole?
And I say a similar thing, they must just be like, oh, she's a liar.
She's just lying.
And I'm like, I know, you think I'm like, but it really is true?
Yeah.
And it's shockingly beautiful.
I just want to say one thing.
Tell me.
The eyepatch.
I mean, it was funny in person, but like when I watched my birthday episode and Logan's singing and your reaction to Logan's singing in the eye patch was so incredibly satisfying.
Oh.
And then to watch you guys make out in the cab, I was thrilled.
With the eye patch.
Thrill.
And the shot through the eye patch.
the window. Okay, that shot, do you know how long I spent in that cab? I can imagine. But you know what
comforted me the next day? Because like I had the eye patch and the angle had to be right now.
Yeah, it was cool. And it was over and over. But do you know what was interesting? Gary from the
crew, he said, we got a good shot of you for that. And I go, did you? Because the bright lights of the
when I saw that angle. It was great. It made me give in to whenever I, whatever I do next is just
to accept when they say it.
Yeah.
Because when you're doing it,
you don't feel, I agree.
You've got like stuff sticking in you.
Totally, yes.
You're trying to hold in your stomach.
Totally.
All of it.
And then you see it and you're like,
they got your back.
It was fantastic.
I mean, Gary always has our back, number one.
Number two, it was so reminiscent of the old show.
It was, right?
Wow.
So I high five on that.
You're so right.
Big time, baby.
It was awesome.
I mean, so many of your things are awesome.
You've got a good eye.
It just came.
to my mind because at the time, of course, we shot the birthday party for like three weeks.
Three weeks? Four weeks? I don't know. I never even saw you there half the time because we shot
individually sometimes. I know. I know. Right. That was a great episode, babe. I know, right? That was
a great episode. I know. But like, your stuff was hard. It was hard. It was made easier because
Logan's actually very present. He's so good. He's a great. He's so good one. He sings that song. People
thought he was fake singing that that was someone else singing. Like, no, that's the him. He's
incredible. He's incredible. I know. I want him to be. He's a song. I know. I want him to
be on the show too he can be a catching up with friends Logan calling Logan Marshall Green we need
you all right we can keep going we could come back baby I love you please I love you too
thank you never asked me the question she remembered thank God so Sarita are you a Charlotte
I never thought I was but I feel like I might be I think you are I think I am I think you are
But you can be part Charlotte, part others, which I think you are probably.
Definitely.
But I just want to say I am.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
And I think you are because, like, as worldly and kind of sophisticated as you are, you're such, like, heart.
You know, you're so open and leading with the heart in terms of, like, your actual life.
And I think there are certain, like, rules.
And what may look like prudish behavior that just come from protecting yourself.
And also religion and countries and nature that make you feel you're not as wild as people think you are.
Right.
And, you know.
I do know. I really, really know.
I love you so much.
I love you so much.
So much.
Thank you so much for being with us.
Hey, everybody, this is Matt Rogers.
And Bowen-Yang.
And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas.
It is Elle Woods, Tracy Flick, herself.
Reese Witherspoon.
Louise, it must go in a girl's trip.
I have to have a tequila.
We must.
Oh!
Whoever said orange is the new pink.
We seriously disturbs.
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podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Jorge Ramos.
And I'm Paola Ramos.
Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time
as uncertain as this one.
We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a
unique Latino perspective.
The Moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years.
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or wherever you get your podcasts.
What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose
between a maximum security prison
or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth?
Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.
He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.
Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.
Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.
Five, six white people pushed me in the car.
I'm going, what the hell?
Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
All you got to do is receive the package.
Don't have to open it, just accept it.
She was very upset.
Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light.
Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.
It's important that we just reassure people that they're not alone, and there is help out there.
The Good Stuff Podcast Season 2 takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community.
September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front line.
of One Tribe's mission.
One Tribe saved my life twice.
Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff.
Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
This is an IHeart podcast.