Are You A Charlotte? - Bosom Buddies with Sarita Choudhury... (S2 E14 "The F*ck Buddy)

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

We continue this provocative conversation with Sarita Choudhury and this time, the hot topic is: "Can you pull off two dates in one night?" Plus, these two And Just Like That pals feel their feel...ings on the entire Sex and the City universe and And Just Like That coming to an end. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, everybody. This is Matt Rogers. And Bowen-Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas. It is Elle Woods, Tracy Flick, herself. Reese Witherspoon. It must go in a girl's trip.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I have to have a tequila. We must. Oh. Whoever said orange is the new pink. We seriously disturbs. Listen to Los Angeles. culturalistas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos.
Starting point is 00:00:35 And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:04 What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It's important that we just reassure people that they're not alone, and there is help out there. The Good Stuff podcast, season two, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a nonprofit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission.
Starting point is 00:01:53 One Tribe, save my life twice. Welcome to Season two of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. get to do is receive the package. Don't have to open it. Just accept it. She was very upset,
Starting point is 00:02:32 crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Welcome back, everybody, to Are You a Charlotte? Part two. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. So Carrie's at home, and she's, she's, this is what I find depressing. So she says, I wondered, were we all just victims of conditional, conditioned responses,
Starting point is 00:03:09 doomed to repeat the same unconscious relationship patterns, were we all, in fact, just dating the same person over and over again? So fucking depressing. So depressing. I mean, but so good also. So good. So good. It's almost like a thought that is pre-therapy and more brilliant.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah. Do you know? Yes. And I'm afraid the answer is probably yes. Yes. But then, and then we show, we still have some people talking to the camera, which is also funny. Right? It's like avant-garde weird theater land.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Totally. But in Dirty New York, so it kind of is cool. Totally, totally. And it gets better. Like compared to first season, I think it's really better. So much better. And it's a great device used well, but it's funny at the beginning. It is really funny.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, you're like, oh my God, we're back to this. Okay. And then we see poor Samantha, who's in her very red bedroom, golden red, hearing the people having the sex through the wall, which I was just like, oh, this is depressing me. This is depressing me. That's how I felt. Then, Carrie says that she's feeling, quote, restless. Yes. Which made me laugh because she paused.
Starting point is 00:04:25 is ever so slightly before she says the word restless. You're like, oh, yes, I know what she's saying. And then she calls Dean Winters character. Yes. We're just going to call him Dean Winters. Yes. His name is John, which is kind of funny, but we ignore that. And she says something like, you know, can you come over?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Oh, we're going to have drinks after work at 630. Yeah. Which is interesting. And he seems like a very together, like he said, I thought he was a finance guy. Later on we find out he's like a phone cell phone salesman That was shocking Yeah you're like you have to really go back in your mind
Starting point is 00:05:04 Like what is he actually talking about time? You're buying time But remember back in the day We're like you didn't want to use your minutes Oh always right Oh no right you used your minutes I put in $50 like a week ago That's what he did
Starting point is 00:05:18 That's what he did I thought he was like a stock stock salesman When you first meet him yeah Right And then it becomes a bit sadder It was a bit sadder when he doesn't like sushi too. I remember when he walks, am I jumping ahead for the question? You are, but I don't care. He walks into her apartment and you know what broke my heart?
Starting point is 00:05:35 He was like something about, well, I have a dinner plans at 8 and she's like, oh no, so do I. I have. And that's when you know how insecure both are. Because I think the problem is when you have someone you call just for sex, you are always checking to see, but are they in love with me? I think the truth of it is one of you wants a relationship. See, that would be me and that's why I don't have a fuck buddy. Me too.
Starting point is 00:06:06 That's why I don't. Because I always think, oh, I'm going to be like the other girls and pretend it's not. Right. But of course I want him to be my boyfriend. Right. And then my friends would say that's not. You don't. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:18 But it's too hard in the moment. Like I'm just can't. I just can't turn off the other things. But I knew she was lying when she was like, oh, yeah, no, I have. Right. There was something in it. I was like, oh, that's so tenuous our little lies we tell to protect ourselves in dating. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Yeah. I know it was sad. But I also felt like, well, at least they're on the same page. I kind of thought. You're right. Right? You're right. Because we know Carrie's not in love with him.
Starting point is 00:06:46 No. Even though she's going to give it her best effort. No, there's something even about it. Yeah. Which I liked. Yeah. But then, of course, they messed it up, which was sad. So anyway, then we go, this was the weirdest storyline for me, for Charlotte, because first of all, I remember nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Nothing of any of this. Sometimes I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to do when I'm watching. I'm like, I don't remember this. I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm going to have sex with these guys? I have no idea. Is it because it was such long hours every day non-stop? And because we're shooting twice, two at once, as you know, right?
Starting point is 00:07:16 And I mean, there are certain clothes that I remember. Like, I have, there's a cream-colored dress. I have it still in my closet. Sometimes I look at it and I think, like, when did I wear that? don't know. I wore it in this episode. And there's a green sweater that I recognized. And I have a picture of Cynthia and I, like a continuity type picture, Polaroid, from that restaurant scene. And I don't look happy. I don't look happy. So I think it was some stress going on in my life and lack of sleep. You know what I'm saying? So there's like a sleep. The hours you guys did
Starting point is 00:07:48 back then? Totally bonkers. Totally bonkers. But I do love the weird storyline of Charlotte trying to be like a man and trying to double book herself. So great. It's so funny. And it looks so modern. They look kind of like it's not that they could be right now. Like there's something definitely. I loved that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I loved it too. I was worried that I was going to try to have sex with them. I was like, have Charlotte lost her mind? No, I know. But no, she hadn't. She was just trying to date them. But then, of course, it blows up in her face immediately, which is so perfect. So perfect.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And the one guy with a floppy hair seems like he clearly. would have been a nice guy for Charlotte, but she's now ruined it, trying to take her girlfriend's advice. You know what I mean? So this morning I was thinking about that. I was like, wow, she took her girlfriend's advice and this happened. And then I was thinking, we need our girlfriend's advice.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah. Because it propels us. Yeah. But the problem is we don't need to do the exact advice. I think we need to head somewhere. I think we need to like take it in and filter it a bit. Like you asking him in your yoga outfit, like, oh, do you want to have dinner? I love that.
Starting point is 00:08:53 It gave me hope, and I was like, oh, but then when you had to leave, and I was like, oh, God, that's not Charlotte. No, and it's going to fail. I obviously made a choice to kind of that it wasn't Charlotte. You know what I'm saying? Yes, exactly. It's funny to watch your acting, too. I'm like, oh, yeah, that is such a cute little fake, scratchy throat I'm doing there, but that's okay. Oh, I love that kind of acting in early shows.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I do because there's something about this show that sometimes, there's so much you have to do and then sometimes you literally they're losing the light and like any show it's not unique in that sense but because it's comedy sometimes I find myself even playing sima there's a bit of egg on my face I don't mind it right because I realize for the pace of this show you can't hit everything perfectly if not there's no humanity yes so I almost like when I see something like you just said yeah I think the egg on the face is integral integral integral needed yeah Definitely. Yeah. And sometimes they write it, but then sometimes it's just there.
Starting point is 00:09:57 No, sometimes in group scenes, it's always there because of timing and they're very hard. And they're very hard. And I'm learning to like them. I'm glad. Yeah. Egg on face. Hey, everybody. This is Matt Rogers.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And Bowen-Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas. It is Bradley Jackson, L. Woods, Tracy Flick, herself. Reese Witherspoon. It must go in a girls' trip. I have to have a tequila. We must. Oh!
Starting point is 00:10:33 The Q rating. When they run diagnostic on you guys. I'd be scared. Run the Q rating. No on the Q rating on us. My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency score. Where's your grit?
Starting point is 00:10:50 My grit. I got to get my grit. I got to get my grit score up. Now, don't think that you're going to come out Los Culturistas, the podcast, and we're not going to at least bring up Big Little Lies season three. Whoever said orange is the new pink.
Starting point is 00:11:04 We seriously disturbs. Listen to Las Culturistas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in.
Starting point is 00:11:45 To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't. don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But what they find is not what they expected. Basically your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. What would you do if one day?
Starting point is 00:13:15 bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth. Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life. emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. From the studio who brought you the Pikedin Massacre and Murder 101, this is Incells. I am a loser. If I also a woman, I wouldn't date me either. From the dark corners of the web, an emerging mindset. If I can't have you, girls, I will destroy you.
Starting point is 00:14:35 A kind of subculture, a hidden world of resentment, cynicism, anger against women. A seed of loneliness. I just hate myself. I don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it. At a deadly tipping point. Incells will be added to the terrorism guide. Police say a driver intentionally drove into a crowd killing 10 people. Tomorrow is the day of retribution.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I will have my revenge. This is Incells. Listen to season one of Incells starting September 24th on the Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so let's go back to the Carrie and John, Dean Winter's relationship. When they go on the date, it's just the saddest thing in the world. And I feel so bad for him because clearly they don't know anything about each other. No.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Other than that they seem to enjoy each other in bed, you know, which is something. And they know how to behave in that zone. Right. They've got the rules. They've got a constructed situation. Then they go out of the constructed situation. It falls apart so quickly. I mean, it almost looks like he's never been to a restaurant with a woman. He wants a burger.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And he doesn't like sushi. I'm like, dude, you need to pretend to like sushi with Carrie. I know. It's sad. No, it's so sad. That episode, you're right. I don't think any of the episodes had that feeling for me where I was like, I don't know what to do. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:15 But it could be because you and I don't relate as much to this dilemma, maybe, as people. I also think, I also think it's because I think theoretically, like structurally, we know, for instance, that the big Carrie relationship is going to have highs and lows and all of the different things and sadness, right? Yes. And we expect that, right. You're right. But when we're outside of that, we are. not expecting kind of a one-off episode called The Fuck Buddy to have such sadness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I still am shocked. You're so right because we expect that thing with Carrie's character and her arc, but it's like she was shocked. Totally. It was like she thinks it's all going to work out. Yeah. And also because it's not she's in love with him, it didn't have to go that far to work out and he couldn't even get there. No, I know. That's what's so sad.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It's not even like we're expecting miracles. which is expecting a dinner to go well It's like the law of the universe Don't mess with real feelings And you don't invent fake feelings Yes, don't try to put like a square peg in round hold Or whatever that phrase is Right, it's going to go wrong
Starting point is 00:17:25 Right, it's so true, it's so true Yeah Now the one exciting moment of it all Is when Miranda leaves the angry guy at the table Do you remember he's like So he's trying to get, he's angry about literally everything like at one point she's trying to hail a cab and he's like you can't hail a cab on that side of the corner and she's like no no i have and then he hails a cab and then he
Starting point is 00:17:47 kind of pushes her in the cab no i know and then she's like but i like it when he pushes me around in sex which i mean this is like such a big issue we could have a whole episode just about that the only thank god it's cynthia doing it yes because there's something about cynthia that's just like whatever and then other time she's like no and both of those qualities in her could handle this one hundred percent you're not worried for her at all you're not worried for her at all and she's kind of like why do I like it so much in sex but nowhere else which is a good question it's not really ever answered but it's a good question to just leave out there and so luckily she says you know he's going to find out if he makes partner and then I'm sure he's going to lighten up
Starting point is 00:18:29 so then he finds out he makes partner and he's just bitching and moaning and bitching and moaning about you know hours and she doesn't get the pressure on him and whatever and then she just gets up and leaves and it's super exciting and satisfying super exciting and it would do you know what it was that even that relationship it was like wait how did it get to that point how did how did Miranda think that he was going to change getting without seeing it it was a good point it was frustrating it was frustrating just to to go on that journey. I agree. And that's why the episode's kind of sad. You know what I mean? That's why the episode's sad. Because really nothing works out that great. Poor Samantha tries to
Starting point is 00:19:13 break down the wall between her and her neighbors and it doesn't go well. Like it's just sad all the way around. And not even with Samantha, she'll take any sad situation to make it still like a bit of a hip thrust and she can't. No. So that's why it's sad. Yeah. This reminds me of my mom at the time that we were doing the show in the beginning. she was really mixed feelings about about the show and it makes so much sense now. I mean, at the time, I was just like, oh, mom, it's fine. You know what I mean? No, but Kristen, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:47 But she was like, well, I just don't want to think that this is what, you know, dating is like for you. And I was like, it's not, you know, which in reality, it kind of was, but I mean, not to this level, obviously. No, and also your mom is watching the show with the lighting and with everything. You weren't. You were doing the show and watching. So she was really seeing the whole New York. Yes, yes, which is not her world at all. And this reminds me of something that we wanted to talk about,
Starting point is 00:20:14 which is the difference between the experience of making a show, then the experience of watching that same show that you made, and then hearing other people who were not part of the show discussing it, and how completely dissonant. It can be. It is, you know, I never want to come off as the, you know, when you're an actress, you think you get better understanding this, right? But I don't, this show, because it's such a cultural phenomenon, so people join in without you being in a discussion, the discussion begins. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So I'm learning this only in this show, but I think what's wild is the other day I was doing an interview. And I think that's when it really hit me. I was like, oh, she's watching a show, then I'm not watching. Yep. It just hit me finally. Yeah. I've understood variations of that thought, but there's no way when you do a read-through, that's in your head when you watch the show. The edits are like, oh, they chose that.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Right. We can't watch the show as it is. Right. And because people either love or want to talk. talk about or angry at some issue, they want us available. And I sometimes don't know what they're saying because I have not seen the same thing. Definitely. Sometimes I don't know what they're saying either. Yeah. I'm just like, what? Yeah. What? Like, you know, and you think I'd be used to it after all this time. But I'm not. I'm really not. I'm really not.
Starting point is 00:21:53 You've often said something that I'm like, oh, she's not used to it yet, which kind of makes me happy that it hasn't that you've kept this human kind of like okay what is this right but also it just shows maybe we're not supposed to be good at it like right you know and sometimes I feel bad because like someone will ask me something they have so much excitement right and I don't know what they're asking right well well I think somehow we're supposed to be experts about their experience but yes i mean i do feel like we're experts about what we've made which people seem to sometimes doubt which is really interesting right um because i mean it should be easy right yeah which obviously it's not easy at all but also like we're in it i can't be objective exactly also
Starting point is 00:22:48 also we're insecure we barely pulled it off yeah so then when we're being asked about whether it's a good or bad thing right i that was take number seven And I, oh, I'm so glad I'm not embarrassed by it. Like, you know, there's so many thoughts we have that are different. And I also think, I think that we're in a crazy time, you know, culturally in terms of the dialogue or lack thereof of true dialogue maybe. Like that there's like people are very, very black and white about things, you know, in terms of like, I hated that. I love that. I hated that.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I love that. There's not actual conversations sometimes. Yeah. And it happens with us. Like sometimes I'm in a conversation even with a friend and they'll bring up something that they want to talk about that isn't even in my scenes. Right. And I'm not sure why they're asking me. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:46 But they care so much. Right. And so I'm learning anyway. I'm learning because I never want. I'm always scared of coming off a bit like. an asshole oh my god no no because when it happens
Starting point is 00:24:02 people don't realize we get hurt yeah like I first get hurt yes then I go they don't mean it that way so they don't mean it right right so then I try to understand it but that takes time and they're just like looking at me right with this weird expression right so but this is the thing
Starting point is 00:24:17 this is the thing that I come back to I mean number one we can't control how people perceive things right We just can't. We just can't. We just can't. It's like a 12-step type of a situation, right? Like, you have to admit, like, I cannot control that.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Second of all, we have to be able to create. Yeah. And we have to stay open to be able to create. Yeah. And that's not easy. No. Ever. And definitely not right now in time.
Starting point is 00:24:45 No. In our culture. So there's some protection that you need to create for yourself. And partly because of the podcast, I'm more out in the world of the, of the conversation that I would normally be because I'm trying to kind of figure it out more and use it for the podcast. I love that you're being um yeah how do I say this you're being very like whatever comes up to your brain is I love that because it's the one thing you're not allowed to do with the show because you don't want to offend people you don't you don't you don't I kind of find that
Starting point is 00:25:22 very refreshing thank you it's scary I bet it's scary no I bet it's scary because we mess up with people's names and right but look at the love even when we're talking about something that we're like whoa I still love it yes one's not I'm not going to talk about it right right I mean British accent just came out I know I love how your accent comes and goes so much when I'm a bit jet lagged when I'm tired like a full two words will come out and it's like a fish coming out of my mouth that I'm just like no all of it's good all of it's good this is what I love so much about you like you could talk to Sarita about so many different countries that she's actually lived in.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Like, it is so cool. Well, can I say one thing talking about countries? So I just came back and my friend Lorena is addicted to the show. Okay. Both the old and the new. And it's so sweet because when we're there, it airs Friday nights. Here it airs Thursday. And every Friday we'd be at the beach and doing our thing.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And she'd be like, no, Sarita, we go. It's dropping. It's dropping now. And I was like, definitely. And she knows me so well. She goes, I know you're not as excited as me. And I was like, no, I may be more excited than you. And she goes, okay, I know it's drama in head with the actress.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I don't know. Okay, we're going to go. And I watch Lorenna, watch the show. And it's like watching Spanish watch our show, getting it, getting it in a – I don't know. It's an experience to watch the show abroad. Absolutely. And see the love. and see the, and was kind of,
Starting point is 00:26:58 and just hearing the comments. I loved it. That's so nice. Yeah. It's so nice to hear. Yeah, it is. I mean, we just have to do it and let it go out there
Starting point is 00:27:07 and it's going to do what it's going to do, right? And sometimes it's hard to remember that because obviously there's a lot coming at us, you know? But then I think that's also why, you know, we're together and we can be together in it all. Yeah. Right? That's how I felt coming here today.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I was like, oh, I needed this, and I haven't had this. We've done a lot of press. And I was like, even I can feel it now. Like, I don't even know. Usually I'm aware of my hair or my face or my, I don't, I'm not really aware. Like, part of me thinks when I watch it, it's going to be like, but that's so rare, right, when you're in conversation on camera.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Right. Well, because this is what I love about podcasting is that I wanted to have the flow. Yeah. Right? And the only way to have the flow is to just go where it goes. So sometimes I apologize, sweet listeners, if I did not recap enough for you, some people want more recap. Some people want less recap, right? But like for me, the joy of this is being in it. Yeah. With whomever has come to be with me. No, I can't even remember what I thought we might talk about because I'm literally just following you. Which is great. It's a joy. I love it. Me too. I love it too and I love having you. I love having you. I love having you. I'm not having you. You're having me. Yes, but both. here. It's a two-way street, baby.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Hey, everybody. This is Matt Rogers. And Bowen-Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Lost Cultureistas. It is Bradley Jackson, Elle Woods, Tracy Flick herself. Reese Witherspoon. We must go in a girls' trip. I have to have a tequila. We must. Oh! The Q rating.
Starting point is 00:28:52 C-Rating. When they run diagnosed. We can run it on you guys. I'd be scared. I'll run the Q rating. No, on the Q rating on us. My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency score.
Starting point is 00:29:08 My grit. I got to get my grit score up. Now, don't think that you're going to come out Los Culture East. That's the podcast. And we're not going to at least bring up Big Little Lies season three. Whoever said orange is the new pink. Seriously. Listen to Las Culturistas on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos. as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:30:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs
Starting point is 00:30:56 that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes.
Starting point is 00:32:00 They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. From the studio who brought you the Pikedin Massacre and Murder 101, this is Incells. I am a loser. If I also wouldn't date me either. From the dark corners of the web, an emerging mindset.
Starting point is 00:32:48 If I can't have you, girls, I will destroy you. A kind of subculture, a hidden world of resentment, cynicism, anger against women. A seat of loneliness explodes. I just hate myself. I don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it. At a deadly tipping point. Incells will be added to the terrorism guide.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Police say a driver intentionally drove into a crowd killing 10 people. Tomorrow is the day of retribution. I will have my revenge. This is Incells. Listen to season one of Incells starting September 24th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm just going to briefly touch on the fact that, unfortunately, as far as we know, we do not get to go and be together for 18 hours a day. I know. Still sinking in.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Still sinking in. Not 100% there. Totally. So sad. So sad. And so beautiful. You're almost saying it in the way I feel it, like not real words are coming out yet. It's true.
Starting point is 00:34:03 It's true. But also I have been through this before where we're saying goodbye, but then we don't ever really say goodbye. And for me, we all are so alive in me. You know what I'm saying? That's so beautiful, Kristen. Don't you feel? I feel like also this is, it's so different. My feelings are one, and then there's yours, which is the first and then a different iteration.
Starting point is 00:34:27 And it's a lot, but I love what you've just said, which is often when you think it's an end, it's not whatever that means, right? And that just made me understand something right now, but I'm glad when you left that message for Nicole that didn't go, that it allowed you to cry. Because sometimes, don't you find it's when someone answers the phone that that's when you cry? Yes. So maybe there's some kind of a trigger or something. And I think also because Nicole and I, you know, when she began the show, was like when I had to cry for weeks with her, you know, so that, because of begs death, right? Do you remember this?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Yes, yes. That was how we began our relationship. So I think there's also like this established freedom that I have with her to share those kind of deeper things, right? And also I was just trying to check in on her. So then I was sad that she didn't get the message. because I was trying to check in or no, though my feelings, like, poured out. I mean, now she knows it fully, Nicole. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yes, yes. But I think also it's interesting because you had left me something and that just like, just seeing your name and then Cynthia did and then Sarah Jessica. And it was interesting because it allowed me when I heard Sarah Jessica's, I was. It just allowed me to let it go and also just think of you guys because you, I don't even know how this was able to happen and how amazing. It is. It really is. And you brought us on, which is so beautiful. But, yeah, I keep thinking of you guys.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And I keep thinking, oh, they must have so many different emotions, different days. And it's going to take a long time for you to form a sentence. For sure. For sure, for sure. But it's nice. This is my first public. You're doing great. Sentence with you, which is what a great place to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I know. It's a great place to do it because we're free and we're just ourselves. And there's no lens of any other, you know, journalist or whatever here. Obviously, there's just us. And I also think it's going to continue to evolve. And, I mean, I'm just so grateful that we were able to do the show we wanted to do. Oh, Kristen. And to bring you guys on such incredible bright lights.
Starting point is 00:36:50 for us like inspiration for us grounding for us it was i mean obviously we love each other but we love you guys too so much but you know and that's not a given right i think when people don't when people ask me about you or and obviously i'm not going to i don't talk much about it but the one thing i think that shocks them is when i'm like they're really regular gals who are hardworking actresses Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're actors. Yeah. And, um...
Starting point is 00:37:21 But really regular. Right? I know. It's funny. You have real friendships between you three. And I think that just sounds like I'm lying. So when I say it... Because there's such cynicism, I think.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Sure. Yeah. And wouldn't it be fun, the story was the opposite? Yeah. So then when I say, when they're like, how is it for you and for Nicole? And I say a similar thing, they must just be like, oh, she's a liar. She's just lying. And I'm like, I know, you think I'm like, but it really is true?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Yeah. And it's shockingly beautiful. I just want to say one thing. Tell me. The eyepatch. I mean, it was funny in person, but like when I watched my birthday episode and Logan's singing and your reaction to Logan's singing in the eye patch was so incredibly satisfying. Oh. And then to watch you guys make out in the cab, I was thrilled.
Starting point is 00:38:15 With the eye patch. Thrill. And the shot through the eye patch. the window. Okay, that shot, do you know how long I spent in that cab? I can imagine. But you know what comforted me the next day? Because like I had the eye patch and the angle had to be right now. Yeah, it was cool. And it was over and over. But do you know what was interesting? Gary from the crew, he said, we got a good shot of you for that. And I go, did you? Because the bright lights of the when I saw that angle. It was great. It made me give in to whenever I, whatever I do next is just
Starting point is 00:38:49 to accept when they say it. Yeah. Because when you're doing it, you don't feel, I agree. You've got like stuff sticking in you. Totally, yes. You're trying to hold in your stomach. Totally.
Starting point is 00:38:58 All of it. And then you see it and you're like, they got your back. It was fantastic. I mean, Gary always has our back, number one. Number two, it was so reminiscent of the old show. It was, right? Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:11 So I high five on that. You're so right. Big time, baby. It was awesome. I mean, so many of your things are awesome. You've got a good eye. It just came. to my mind because at the time, of course, we shot the birthday party for like three weeks.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Three weeks? Four weeks? I don't know. I never even saw you there half the time because we shot individually sometimes. I know. I know. Right. That was a great episode, babe. I know, right? That was a great episode. I know. But like, your stuff was hard. It was hard. It was made easier because Logan's actually very present. He's so good. He's a great. He's so good one. He sings that song. People thought he was fake singing that that was someone else singing. Like, no, that's the him. He's incredible. He's incredible. I know. I want him to be. He's a song. I know. I want him to be on the show too he can be a catching up with friends Logan calling Logan Marshall Green we need you all right we can keep going we could come back baby I love you please I love you too
Starting point is 00:40:01 thank you never asked me the question she remembered thank God so Sarita are you a Charlotte I never thought I was but I feel like I might be I think you are I think I am I think you are But you can be part Charlotte, part others, which I think you are probably. Definitely. But I just want to say I am. I love it. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And I think you are because, like, as worldly and kind of sophisticated as you are, you're such, like, heart. You know, you're so open and leading with the heart in terms of, like, your actual life. And I think there are certain, like, rules. And what may look like prudish behavior that just come from protecting yourself. And also religion and countries and nature that make you feel you're not as wild as people think you are. Right. And, you know. I do know. I really, really know.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I love you so much. I love you so much. So much. Thank you so much for being with us. Hey, everybody, this is Matt Rogers. And Bowen-Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas. It is Elle Woods, Tracy Flick, herself.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Reese Witherspoon. Louise, it must go in a girl's trip. I have to have a tequila. We must. Oh! Whoever said orange is the new pink. We seriously disturbs. Listen to Las Culturistas on the I-HeartRadio app.
Starting point is 00:41:45 podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:42:41 or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell? Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you got to do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it.
Starting point is 00:43:13 She was very upset. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. It's important that we just reassure people that they're not alone, and there is help out there. The Good Stuff Podcast Season 2 takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front line. of One Tribe's mission. One Tribe saved my life twice.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast.

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