Are You A Charlotte? - Bridget Over Troubled Waters. Bridget Moynahan Continues (S2 E17 "Twenty-Something Girls vs. Thirty-Something Women")

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Kristin and Bridget are giving us fascinating insights about Natasha’s first appearance on Sex and the City. A stolen Rolodex, crabs (not the good kind), age differences, Carrie’s first encounter with Natasha, and an iconic outfit that fans still recreate today.Plus, we get a sneak peak into a future episode and behind the scenes info on an epic move by Bridget/Natasha. And, inside details of her appearance years later when Natasha returns for And Just Like That.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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are you a Charlotte? Welcome back, everybody, to Are You a Charlotte? We are back with Bridget Moynihan, and we are going to break down the episode that she first appeared in, 20-something girls versus 30-something women. Which is kind of funny because 20-somethings and 30-somethings, they're not really that different, but apparently at the time, we really felt like they were. But now when I look back at the episode, I feel very much relating to, like, 50-something women and 20, you know, like the generational divide is so great, right?

Because we all remember Analog World. They don't know anything about Analog World. Like, I have to say to my kids all the time, like, they'll say, like, what did you watch on the iPad, Mommy? And I'm like, there was no iPad children. It was black and white. There were three TV stations. They look at you like you are insane.

Yeah. Like, it's so interesting, the, you know, the fast, you know, the fast. paced way that the change is happening, I guess. And then obviously the generations are very different, which is discussed a lot, but I think probably on purpose and should be discussed some more. And when I watched this, I was reminded of the fact that at the time we thought that 30-something women, first of all, were really old. Right. Which is funny because it's not old at all. But the 20-something girls, they were a bit of a mess in this episode. So this is the episode where we see you at the party. And one of the things that I remember, and I don't even remember the names, and I don't think I should probably say them even if I could.

But, you know, Samantha's a publicist, and her storyline is that she's a publicist. She has an assistant who's a terrible assistant. Okay, this girl's yakking on the phone, you know, relatively disrespectful to her boss, doesn't hang up. Samantha's like, no, I actually mean it. You need to do your job. And so this girl quits and takes Samantha's Rolodex. That was all based on real people who, if I wanted to, I could find their names and tell you, but I think I probably shouldn't. Right.

I can imagine it. I feel like I know for this thing. You do. I'm pretty sure you do. It was a real thing. And I remember, like, all of New York was like, but then this person who took the Rolodex did really, really well. It was, like, kind of one of the up-and-comers and is now, like, a long-term person in the PR world. But the funny thing at the time of the storyline, you know, because they were always stealing stuff, you know, and trying to change it a little bit, whatever.

Not that they really cared, I don't think. These young girls are a mess. They're just a terrible mess. Because as this girl who takes Samantha's Rolodex and then eventually is throwing the rodeo party where we initially meet Natasha, everything's going wrong and she doesn't know what to do and she's potentially coked up, which is also entertaining. And then Samantha has to save the day, you know. Well, and the best part about that is she introduces your young fling. Totally. To the crab guy who, Anson Mountain, who we do still want to have on the podcast.

I'm really sorry that you, sometimes I've been having some trouble getting the guys to come on. Not all of them, but like sometimes when I rewatch the episode, I kind of understand why. I mean, it's like kind of ick. And also, not only, let's back up. So Charlotte has, for some reason, that we don't even get into, just decided she's going to try to pretend like she's 27 in this whole episode, which I think is so funny or 26. I can't even remember. And I only, this is, again, vague, vague memories. I remember that we were in Far Rockaway, and I was very mad personally inside me that we were not at the Hamptons because I was like, this place is sad, okay? No offense to Far Rockway, but, you know, it was not glamorous. It was not what you had in your mind. Not at all what I had in my mind, and we had to work hard to make those parties look nice, you know?

Mm-hmm. And the beach doesn't look like the Hampton's Beach, but never mind. So we're in Far Rock away. And I think we all had to take those 18-seater buses out. You know those buses? Mm-hmm. Like it's not a bus bus, but like a van. Okay.

16-16-seater, 16-18-seater. Like we were all together. Maybe not Sir Jessica, but everybody else. You know what I mean? It was a lot to film this episode. And it was the end of the season, too. So I think there was a lot of pressure on it. And, hold on, did I say this?

Darren directed this. Okay. He wrote it and directed it, which I didn't remember that at all. Do you remember Darren as a director? Again, I was so overwhelmed. Of course. By all of it. All of it.

And then, like, thrown, because I'm sure I didn't meet Chris until on set. Like, I don't remember, but it was just like. You know, well, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's turned on the charm for you. He did, he did. Yeah. Hence my massive smile. It's amazing, though. It's perfect.

It's perfect and good. Okay, we're going to back up. We're going to talk about the storyline. So, remember this Brady Bunch thing they do in the beginning? Yes. Oh, my God. So Darren. Darren loves a little quirky thing.

Yes. Just even the way they told the, the, the crabs, that you had crabs. Right? I know, and they threw the crabs up on the table to eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's true. That was creative. I'm really glad.

Also, they did cut to my stomach, and I remember just sucking my stomach in really hard. But also, thank God, they didn't put a little bug on there or something. Yeah. Oh, God. But they cut to the crabs instead. So they do this very funny little Brady Bunch thing to tell the story of how we all end up at Hampton's house, which is that this couple who we've never met or heard from have these friends, and then they're all interrelated and or breaking up and cheating on each other.

A very clever little Brady Bunch thing there. I'm sure that was all Darren. Then I convince everybody at the coffee shop that we should go and stay in this house because we're getting a good deal for the month of August, which of course back then, all the deals were good compared to now. My God. I mean, the amount of money I have paid to take my kids out to the Hamptons, good Lord. Yes.

So I convinced them all to come out to the Hamptons. And I say some crazy things like, who knows? In a year, one of us could be married. One of us could have a kid. And they all look at me like I'm insane. Yeah. And in fact, I'm right. I'm right.

Charlotte is right. In a year, people. Who's pregnant? Miranda. Oh. Remember that? It all comes to pass. With the guy from the sandwich suit?

No. You don't know who Miranda has a kid with? Yes. Okay, good. Yeah. Iganberg. Steve. Yeah.

Yes. That was a great relationship. I actually liked that relationship. It's a fantastic. And he's fantastic. Unbelievable. Also will not come on the podcast. I have begged and cried and begged because he kind of interestingly, a little bit like you in terms of doesn't watch his work, doesn't really remember things, doesn't want to pay attention to that part, hates press.

And I said it's not press. It's me, right? Sitting on a couch. Yeah. And I will protect you and trust you in all ways. But he was like, I just don't do that. You know, and I don't want anyone to be uncomfortable. So I said, okay, David, I forgive you.

But imagine if he and I were on the same episode, we'd be like, I don't know. I don't know. I can't remember. But it would be entertaining because you're both really watchable. So I would watch that. But, I mean, the thing about Eigenberg, I think as well is that he is so incredibly real and in it, that he doesn't want to kind of look back at the finished product work. as being the important thing he wants to be in it which I respect you know um and everyone has

their own thing and I think that that's important to kind of honor right like Sarah Jessica doesn't want to watch the episodes people are all mad at her that she doesn't want to watch the episodes that's her process yeah like her process is that I'm I'm in it and I'm going to do the best I can do in it and that is kind of the end of it right yeah in in the scene that's my job right Our job is not to watch ourselves necessarily, unless you want to watch yourself and learn from it, and then that's great. And sometimes I have had really great joy watching it with a big audience, like at a premiere. Yeah. Because you get to really feel the response.

Yeah. Which is a joy, right? Okay, we're back to the show. We're back to the show. So here we are. Samantha, she has this young assistant, Nina is her name, and oh my goodness, it's a hot mess. So then we cut to the jitney, which seeing us all getting on that jitney really made me laugh, the memories of the jitney. Oh, my goodness me.

And I meet this young guy, Greg, and he's 26. So I kind of wink at the girls, like, you know, he's 26 or whatever. And they're like, oh, what is going on? So we all head out. We go to the, we have a whole conversation about, this is funny to me because the conversation is basically. are the 20-something girls in Manhattan a threat to the 30-something women in Manhattan? And, of course, you are going to be the epitome of this when we do meet you at the end of the episode because you are a 20-something and we are a 30-something.

And to me, it's so really bizarre and weird, this kind of divide that we live. Divide, yeah. Because it's not that far off. It's not far off at all. But I think back then, the idea of being in your 30- as a woman because we were very limited in terms of like obviously as an actress you were limited like you thought at 40 it would be done that's what I was told that's what everyone believed but also I think back then you were supposed to be married in your 30s you were supposed to have your job you're supposed to have it together in your 30s children by 30 yes whereas now I feel like everything is much more wide open yeah fluid and fluid and whatever you want to do goes. But back then, not so much. You were supposed to have your shit together by your 30s. So I think that's why the difference, the difference in terms of how we talk about it.

But I also think it's so interesting to think about the idea of are the younger women threatening or not. And to me, I just don't even feel like we're even remotely the same. Like how could we even be threatened by them? Like any guy who would like a 20-something it's not going to like me, we're totally different. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Do you feel that way? Not that you're in it, but you don't know what I'm saying.

Yeah, I'm not in it. I don't know. Yeah, but I wouldn't be, I think, yeah, I don't know. It's hard to even, for me, it's hard to imagine the idea of wasting energy feeling threatened by the 20s is what I'm really saying. Right? Like. Well, certainly at this age. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. And I don't remember being. threatened it by it in my 30s either. No, whatever. No, me neither. Me neither. Me neither. And I think in a lot of ways, because I don't think, I mean, it is funny that certainly there's a lot of women out there who try to pretend that they're younger than they are, which is sad. But I understand why, because our society is so agist and has been for so long. And we're trying to change it, but it's really hard to change these things, man. You know what I'm saying.

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Oh, my God. And you can hear me just squealing in the background through that whole scene. Because I think they just told him, like, throw her around. Yeah. And I was like, oh, God, what is happening? But it was so genius because, like, he was like wrestling a football and you were like, I'm going to be 26. I'm going to be 26.

Right. And I give him a high five. You're like, yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, it's very much like how it is now. I have a 14-year-old, right? They have all the crazy words, skibbitty, whatever, blah, blah, blah. I don't know that one.

Oh, Lord, have mercy. And my daughter told me the other day, like, Mom, don't try. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, okay, thank you. Thank you. I have permission not to try. I'm so glad because they have a whole vocabulary.

And if it comes out of your mouth, it just doesn't work. It's mortifying. It's fully mortifying. Right. It's fully mortifying. But at this point, Charlotte can just barely pull it off. Though, of course, the girls are like, oh, God, why is she even trying? And she pays the price by getting crabs, which I think is totally appropriate and fine.

So then Carrie meets this guy. He's a doctor. He's good on paper. You can tell it's not going to work. It's so funny to me to watch that storyline. I mean, it is kind of sweet in a way, like in the absence of being. that she's trying with, like, kind of appropriate choices? Yes.

You know, he's a doctor. He's very polite. But there's no. But none of the juzh. No juzh. No spark, nothing. Nothing at all. They walked down the beach.

You know, Carrie's fascinating. But that's all I thought. She's so out of his league. Yes. Thank you for saying it. That's well put. That's well put. I think that's an interesting thing.

to, like, when I look back, there's a lot of analysis of Big and Carrie, right? And I tried to get Sarah Jessica to analyze it when she came on the podcast, and she doesn't really want to. She did have a very interesting perspective about him, which I thought was interesting and unusual in terms of, like, who raised him and how he was raised and why he is the way that he is and the generation that he was a part of, which does totally make sense. But then I said, why, you know, but why did she put up with so much from him because she really does. And she said he was just her person, which I think is the way it is. Hmm. You know what I mean?

How, what was the age difference? The age difference of them is like 10 years, I want to say. On screen? I mean, I'd have to really analyze it. And then that means it was 20 years between or 10, 15. Yeah, which I don't think we ever even mentioned. Yeah, you had a little age. range situation going on there. There was age range situation. I know, but it was so incredibly

common and not thought of twice that a man like that would marry a girl who was 25. No. That was just totally normal and expected. I would actually say expected. Yeah. Carrie was unexpected because she was complicated. She was 30-something. She was hot. Yeah. You know what I mean you're cool and hot in a whole different way you're desirable in a whole different way you know what I'm saying but that's what I love about the contrast and that's why you were so perfect but I want to talk about something that's not in this episode because you're here and I would be remiss if we do not talk about the falling down the stairs and the tooth I rewatched that episode. And it made, I, I was shocked. I know. I was shocked as well. Yeah, it really made me jump.

It made me jump and hurt. And then her helping. I know. And you're trying to lock the door. You locked the door so she can't get in the cab. I know. What do you remember of that? Like, what were you thinking? I don't know, but it was, I don't know if that was an instinct or that was in the script. I can't remember. But I just, again, then having. her sit out there watching the rest of the episode and her staying there and checking in and making sure and then big showing up and he thanked her for being there but and then my parents were coming to Natasha's parents were coming down like what was that whole conversation going to be with my husband like it was all like you just I just wanted to know that next thing like what was it for

them me too I feel like there was a lot left out but part of the reason that that was left out was because we're with Carrie, right? Of course. She doesn't know that, right? But I also feel at the same time, like, beautifully written because it makes you wonder, like, what is happening over there? Yeah. What is happening over there? And poor Natasha.

Poor Natasha. But then I love when we come back to, and just like that, that it's Natasha who is caring for her. So incredible. You know. Yes. I mean. There really is that bond between them. Like they...

Absolutely. I mean... Whether, you know. Right. But also, like, isn't that the weirdness of life, right? Like, like, also, before we go there, because I want to say this, when I did rewatch when you come in, and so Big and Carrier having their affair, just to update everybody, Big & Care, you're having their affair.

In my bed. Exactly. And we think you don't know about it. But you come in and you say... see her trying to run out the back door and you say, I knew you were having an affair but not in my bed or in my apartment or something like that. That just kind of broke me too. Yeah, because obviously she's been, you know, where have you been? And there's been questions. There's been in their relationship. Right. It's so sad. That you don't ever know about until

that moment. But that's just like how a mistress wouldn't know. Do you know what I'm saying? Like we're so with Carrie. But yet, and because we're kind of inside Carrie's mind. at all times because of the voiceover, right? Like we're in her and we're obviously as her friends devoted to her, but just from your perspective, from the Natasha perspective, I was so sad and you also have so much poise because even though you come in and you see her trying to scuttle out the back,

you're still like, Carrie, wait. Like you're not screaming at her. You know what I mean? Like you're chasing her, but you're still very poised about it. it because apparently you already knew. Well, there weren't any knives on the... Because that would have made sense, okay? It would have made sense.

To me at least. To me at least, it would have made sense. But then when you fall and you hit your face... Oh, my God, I'm dying. Right. Was it a stunt double? Was it a stunt double? No, I don't know.

Okay, we're going to find out all these clues, you guys. I'm sure there was a stump, but there was a pad there. Right. There was a pad. Right. Well, because when you lift your head up, it's obviously used. So if there was a stunt double, it was minimal. But also, thank God, I had remembered it somehow that you literally fell down the stairs.

But you fell kind of on the threshold out to the stairwell, which is better than... It was down one flight, that and then the turn, yeah. Got it, got it, got it, got it. It's scary, scary, it's so scary and so dramatic and so well written. Oh, my God, oh, my God. I'm still trying to recover from it. And again, I just don't even think myself, you know, because I'm all in her world, right? And I remember thinking it was really, really good, right?

But I never thought about, like, you and Natasha and, you know, what is it like? Are you okay? That's what I mean. How's your tooth? Yeah. Yeah. And then the fact that you later on and just like that say that it's still a different color. No, that was in sex in the city.

When you sit down. When she like interrupts, she comes. Yeah, she comes when you're, you might be at the four seasons. Like you're somewhere really posh. Somewhere fancy. Yes, really fancy. Oh, so that was that scene where you tell her that's still a day. How do you remember that?

Did you like that? Were you happy about that scene? Oh, I think so, yeah. Well, I think it's also the only scene I had multiple lines. Which is so incredible. Otherwise, it's just like she's over there. Right. There were episodes I had no lines, I'm sure.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. That was nerve-wracking. Suddenly I had to string sentences together. Could I do it? Or could I not? I don't know. Oh, my God.

You weren't actually thinking that. No. No. Did you, so you were, when you, so you were modeling, then you were going on all the auditions, all the auditions. You really wanted to act because modeling was not fulfilling. This is what I'm getting, right? Very successful, but, you know, wanted more. Right.

Did you go to acting class? Yes. Did you go to acting class before, or did you have a coach? I was going to school here in the city while I was working during the day. And I was work at K. Michael Patton Studio here on the Upper West Side. and she was Meisner based and just lovely and loved that class. Maria Bello actually, I think, went to the same, I think she went to the same studio at one part of her training. And then I started working, but I kind of focused on studying for a while and getting, because I didn't want to go out into the auditioning process, not having some sort of,

confidence and sea legs a little bit of knowing how to prepare and work. Absolutely. God forbid you get the job and then you can't actually do it, you know. That would be horrible. That would have been horrible. Horrible. So I gave myself like three years before I would actually start auditioning. Smart.

Smart. So that would have been before. Yeah. Got it, got it. Got it. Cool. Okay. I have to talk about the episodes more, I think.

Because some fans really love the rewatching. Of course they do. It's so great. It's interesting, yeah. Yeah, it's an interesting way to relive the episodes, you know? And I guess people watch them over and over, which is so cool. It's so great now because also there's a lot of our generation who were in it or we're watching it for the first time. Yeah.

Whose children are now teenagers. Bizarre. Watching it. I know it. I know, my 14-year-old has not seen it yet, but all of her friends have, which is interesting. And she wants to know when I will let her see it. And I just can't get my mind around it. Do you know what I just can't?

It's weird for me to think about her watching it, you know? I want her to watch it. I'm just not quite ready yet. Well, I think the good thing is it's not porn, right? Thank God, yes, yes. Like that's not what you're holding back from her seeing. No, absolutely. And there is clever.

Yeah, yeah. Yes, and funny, and the women are in charge, you know, absolutely. It's just the sexual content is still there, right? So, like, as a mom, I'm just like, oh. Yes. And then I have to think through, like, which episode do I not want her to see of me? You don't know me. Yeah.

Do you feel that? Like, does your son watch you? Well, I feel like when euphoria came out, there were a lot of parents who were having this discussion. Like, do you let your kids watch it? Yeah. So many of the kids were letting, like, let's watch it. Let's watch the episode, but let's break it down and talk about the do's and don'ts and what's actually happening in your life.

And how would you, like, is it an educational side of it as a mom that you could be having? Absolutely. I think that's great. I just have to just, like, get my mind around the fact that I might be doing something or whatever that might be embarrassing for my daughter to see. worst thing or the scariest thing that you don't want your daughter to see you do say in the position of such a good question bridget i don't even know i mean luckily i play charlotte right right so it's not that bad that i can think of i think it's more of like the

just this frankness of the conversation, right? Across the board. Across the board. Like Samantha, you know, comes to mind. And the thing that's great about Samantha certainly as a conversational tool with your children is that she is so sex positive and not judgmental and fully empowered

in what she wants, you know, and it's so rare to find these characters, women characters who are this way. So I love that perspective. as like, you know, look at, she does what she wants. You know, she's unapologetic about it. Like, that's something that as a young person I would have loved to see. Yeah.

Right? I mean, there are just so many weird things. This is what comes to mind. It's so not anything to be embarrassed about, but I do so many silly things. Like, there's a scene. It hasn't, I don't think we've rewatched it yet, where for some reason, someone tells me that I need to look at my private parts in a mirror. and I look at my private parts in a mirror and I fall off the bed?

Oh, good, yeah. It's like so silly. So that would be great, honey. So when you do that, make sure you're holding on to something stable and maybe have a crash pad on the floor prior to checking yourself out. Totally, totally, totally. So good. There's nothing that I don't stand by, do you mean?

But it's also just like embarrassing kind of. I mean, in general, I don't show my kids my acting. People are always asking me if I do. And I'm like, why would I? It's so weird. Yeah. I mean, I have movies like the shaggy dog that I did that I could totally show them. But it just seems strange.

Like I want them to think of me as their mom. I don't need them to see the public thing. Yeah, yeah. But when we did go back to do a just like that because it had been COVID, my son is only seven now, so he doesn't remember, you know, the heyday. And Gemma wasn't here for the heyday either, my 14-year-old. But she knows everybody and knows about it, intellectual. knows about it. But they put us on that building. Oh, on sunset. On sunset. And on the buses.

So the buses would drive by. And Wilson, who's seven, he'd say, Mommy, there's you and your friends. That's so cute. I was like, yes, there we are. So he has like a odd idea of what it is, you know, without knowing the details. And then he really loves craft services. That's his other thing. Yes, of course. Mommy gets good lunch. She gets a lot of snacks at work. I'm like, yes. Yes. Yes. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved.

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Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. Oh, wait, one of the most adorable parts of this whole episode is that they have Carrie looking through an album of her 20s, and there's an actual picture of her kissing Matthew Broderick in it, but they have their heads turned, and you can't tell that that's her.

And I know that probably... I can't remember when that moment was happening. She goes back, so they go to the Hamptons all the weekend, and then she goes back to her apartment, and she's thinking about what she was like in her 20s because we have this whole counterpoint of the 20-somethings, right? And she's got a big photo album, old-fashioned photo album with the hard... The stick, you know, you're peeling it back.

Exactly. And it's really sweet. And there's a picture of her in Matthew. That's cute. I know. And I was like, oh, and she kind of, at one point, she, like, embarrassed. There's also some kind of funny, she's got her big puffy 80s hair. There's some funny, embarrassing pictures that she puts her hand over them.

Like, I'm so embarrassed. It's really cute. And so her, you know. And the olden days, we would have done things like that and not realized they were going to live forever. Yeah. You know? So we, oh, my. my God, we forgot about the fact that Carrie gets a groupie slash assistant in this episode,

this writer who she meets, who says. Who's never had sex. Yes. Yeah. Which is also so strange and interesting. And you can see Carrie's face just like, what? And it also reminded me of the great generational divide now, sometimes where I sometimes feel this way with younger women when they say like, you know, what do you mean?

Feminism. And I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean feminism? Like, do you not know that you are benefiting from feminism? Like, really? Has that word taken on so much weight in a bad way, like, that you can't embrace it? That's crazy. Well, yes. Yeah, I mean, I guess. The wheels are turning. The wheels are turning and I'm afraid I'll say something that I. I get it. Yeah. I get it. It's hard. It's hard. It's a hard one to talk about, but do you know what I'm saying? Yes. Yes, yes. So I'm way out of order. So Carrie gets this little groupie who's never had sex and then who then at one point paints her toenails in the Hamptons and says something about women just parading their hoo-haz, which I'm not going to say the word she uses, and how gross it is.

And you can just see Carrie like, this is really weird. And this girl is not in the place she should be. But also, in my mind, the thing that I see when I see her, she wants to be a writer, right? And she's hoping that if she's around Carrie, that's going to rub off her and she goes to a book party with her. And, you know, she's a climber, you know? Yeah. It's interesting. But she thinks that she's innocent and pure.

Exactly. Yeah. Right. It's very interesting. Very interesting. Okay, we're back at the beach. Things are fabulous. We have no idea.

our world is about to be crushed. You know, Carrie's flirting with the doctor. I see, oh, this is when we're finally at the Ho Down. The Ho Down, man, a lot happens. And I think we were there. The costumes at the Ho Down were good. Oh, my God. Carrie's costume was good.

Carrie's costume is incredible. And they still, there's all kind of TikToks about it and whatnot, which I totally get. I mean, she can pull off anything, really. Yeah. But also, everyone has some crazy little hats. Like it's funny in the summer of Cowboy Carter to think back. That's funny. You know?

These were more toy. They look like children's hats. Like we've gone to a birthday party and stolen all of their hats. So then she's looking across the party. You know, I have gone and confronted this dude, Greg, and said, you know, you gave me crabs. And he's like, well, you deceived me about your age. And that's worse. Yeah.

It's like, not really. Not really. You don't need cream for that. Dude. You're not on antibiotics for that. Exactly. And then I say, oh, grow up. I don't know what you, yeah. Yeah, I don't either. But yeah, it's all really, he's, he's quite, he's, I think, I think what I'm thinking about with the groupie girl and him as well, there's a bit of a, like, higher, mightier than now, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like, kind of, we're better than you idea, which I do kind of feel like. plays out now in the generational differences where everyone's talking about, Gen Z, Gen Alpha,

so many, so many gens. Then the saddest sad part happens where she looks across and sees you, and as you very, very accurately said, you were just glowing and acting and smiling and laughing. Just happy to be there with him. So glorious. So glorious. And he looks also so relaxed. He really did.

He really did. It shocked me. Yeah. Yeah, it really shocked me. And obviously, it is horrific for Carrie. And she tries to kind of save face, but also find out what the heck is going on. You very politely excuse yourself. He says, the very lame, I was going to call you, which I just want to just want to smack him so hard when he said that.

I know. Like, that is a lame excuse. But he did sound like he meant it. It's true. It's true. He struggled with calling her. I guess. I do think you're being generous, but yes.

I think I'm being generous. I think you're being generous, but I mean, this is the mindset that we all had, right? This is the mindset that I would have had at the time. Oh, he did want to call her? That's what I would have thought. But then I'm like, but did you call her? Did you think about the fact that you're running around town with this gorgeous 25-year-old and you haven't told the woman that you left that you're back from Paris,

which you basically, you know, broke up with her for or she broke up with him, however you want to look at it. Anyway, then she runs to the beach. This is one of those times where, in my mind, back then, our production values were really low. And in some ways they were. But in some ways, they're incredible. Like when she goes to the beach and Miranda runs out there,

and the fireworks. It's so incredible. Oh, my God. I don't know if they're real or CGI or whatever you would call up back then. But they're incredible. Incredible. They're so good. And also, just the mastery with which Sarah Jessica uses her cowboy hat to fake throwing up. Unbelievable. Right? Yeah. Really well done. And pull her hair back at the same time. Really. And Miranda comes and pulls her hair back, which is a throwback to earlier in the episode where we see the girls throwing up at the initial campfire we go to with the young guy. And they're throwing up and we're like, oh, we've got to leave. And then they say, oh, but the sweet thing about 2070 girls is they're always. there for their friends.

And then you see Miranda on the beach holding Carrie's hair back. It's like, oh, it's so sweet and good. It's so good. And then she says, I realize 20-something girls are just fabulous until you see one with the man who broke your heart. It's so, so sad. I know it. I know it.

Sorry, Carrie. I know. And it's just going to go to some crazy places. That's the other thing that's interesting watching it is because we know what happens, you know? Yeah, but you still can't wait to watch the next episode. I know. I know.

It's incredible. It's incredible. It's incredible. And even if we know what's going to happen with you guys. I know. I know. But also the little details are so good. That like even if you remember the big picture things,

you forget all these tiny little details, which are just so excellent. You know, it's like everybody costumes. props. Costumes, yeah. Costumes, props, everybody. So let's just talk about it and just like that really quick. Michael Patrick calls you, says, hey, can I pitch you something, Bridget? We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when you came, had you, it was right after COVID, had you gone back to work already on Blue Bloods or? Yes. Oh, got it. So we had to just borrow you from them and you had to come spend the day with us a couple days. I think it was in the same. I think it was in the

summer. So I think that I was on hiatus and then I was going back to work literally like the next week after I shot with you, probably the same week. And was it like for us coming back, it was the same but very different. How did you feel coming back after all the time? It felt very much the same. Like for me, my first scene I shot with you guys, maybe it was the outdoor one, getting out of the car. I don't remember. But I remember being upstairs in some window and you guys were walking across the street, you know, across the street together and looking up. And I just remember thinking, oh my gosh, I'm so happy to be back here. And you guys were so perfectly dressed and the energy and the, you know, the friendships.

So I got to see it from way up here. But I saw the crowds on the streets on either end. And it was COVID, right? Yeah. And I think that you, that show coming back, you guys on the street in those outfits, just revived this city and neighborhood. Like, oh, life is coming back to normal almost. And that was what the show was going to do on air.

Like, it just felt we needed, we didn't know we were missing this, but yeah, we needed this. It's true. It's true. And I think just all of us, you know, no one could work, right? So it was, it was like the crews couldn't work, you know, the entire industry. We were, we were back. You were? Yeah, we had a great, we were back right away.

Oh, good. Probably, if we finished in that March of COVID, that first year, we were back on working in October. That's amazing. And we just, yeah. That's so great. Cynthia had started Gilded Age a little bit before us, but they had to do some crazy things. Like, they had these. bubbles that they would put them in before action.

You never got the bubbles. Yeah, I don't know what was happening, but I mean, it was, I think there was so much unknown, right? So, and people were worried and whatnot. And I remember the masks and, you know, you'd wear the mask till the end and then take them off and then you have marks on your faces. You know, like, look like the blood back in your face. But we were just so happy to be working. Yeah. It was so amazing to be working.

And to be working together, you know, I would work with them forever if I could. Yeah. It's just been an incredible joy. Yes. Thank you. Wait. Oh, wait. Oh, what's left?

Bridget. Yeah. Are you a Charlotte? Wait, I have to answer this question. I think I'm ish. Okay. I feel like I'm a Charlotte ish. No pressure.

You don't have to be. Oh, no, no. Okay. I think I have ish. I think in life you do. Yeah. I mean, if I may be so presumptuous. Yeah.

I mean, you're certainly. grounded, family-oriented, loyal, you know, believe in love. Yeah. You know, you are committed. I think Charlotte is a bit more of a people-pleaser than I am. Well, good for you then, that you're not. Because that's one of her worst qualities. Oh, okay, good.

I don't know. Look, I love her, so I'm not going to rail on her. But, you know, people-pleasing is exhausting and not really great for your health. It's a lot of work. A lot of work, man, a lot of work. Yeah. But, like, I feel like you, your own. And I think people, I feel like, and tell me if I'm wrong, your part in blue bloods in some ways, you know, showed people your kind of more your real self in certain ways in terms of like the grounded, Bridget, you know, because you're so glamorous looking.

Yeah, and it really was a, like, nice fit as far as, you know, Irish Catholic, that kind of family. Like, I grew up in some, a lot of, a lot of those elements. Right. And I learned a lot from that character. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I mean, I don't know if it, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. Some people will say to me, like, you know, I'm part, Charlotte Park Carrier, you know, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. This is probably true for myself. Like, I'm not all Charlotte. Thank goodness. Yeah.

But I do, it's fun to think about. It is fun to think about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy. I got to come back and hang out with you. I'm so happy. I mean, and I feel like there's a lot more coming, even though, as you said, you have very little screen time.

But, like, I would love to have you back for that conversation when you do finally talk to Carrie. I don't know if you're free, but you know what I'm saying? I'm free. Because that's so good. And I also feel like the way that this lives in people's imaginations, you know, partly because you were so much discussed, but also because the whole storyline is so complicated,

and we were so much on Carrie. side, but is that actually where we should have been? Right. I don't think so. I know. You know, it's really interesting to me. And the fact that people would be upset with you because you were, you know, in the way or ruining a big and carry.

Oh, my gosh. I know. I know. Somebody just said to me, you know, I used to be all Carrie, but now I'm, now I'm all Natasha because of their age difference. Yeah. When she, when this, she became older, she became older. became more pro

Natasha. Absolutely. I'm probably more understanding of what Natasha was going through. Yeah. You know, which that's the joy of the show. Mm-hmm. Is that as you age, you might have different perspectives on the storylines, on the characters, all of those things. I know. You're a joy. So happy to be here.

Thank you for being here. Yay. I'll come back if you have me. Please. There you go. Are you kidding me? The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeart,

Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight... And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? Listen to heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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