Are You A Charlotte? - Catching Up with Friends with Dan Futterman aka the Sexy Pastry Chef

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

Things are about to get REAL intimate. We love talking and chatting with Charlotte's boyfriends!. Things get hot when Dan Futterman, aka the charming pastry chef Stephan, sits down with Kristin. Find out what Charlotte and his wife have both asked him in the bedroom.He also reveals the Sex and the City star he had a crush on! Dan Futterman is spilling so much tea we don't even know how to contain ourselves.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today we have a really special episode. It is a Catching Up with Friends episode and we're talking to the incredible Danny Futterman who was in the episode Evolution, which is season two, episode 11. It's a fantastic episode where he plays my would-be boyfriend, Stefan, who is very in touch with his feminine side, shall we say. So the thing that I want to say about Danny, he is so, so brilliant as a person and an actor, but also he went on after our show to be nominated for an Oscar. for writing Capote, which is an incredible film.

If you haven't seen it, so, so good. And he's created shows, and he's a showrunner and a writer now. So this is a really fun conversation. Please enjoy listening. Hi, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. It's great to see you.

Are you good? It's so great to see you. And you look just the same. Oh, yeah. We look just the same. That's right. Let's just go with that. We look great, but we don't look the same.

Okay. Okay. Fair enough. To me, you look the same because I literally just watched the episode, right? Which is so crazy. I just watched it too. But I didn't have the separate thought. I was like, I'm, I am so young. Like, who would kiss that child? Oh, well, I think I was equally, equally young looking, right? Like, but also it is kind of, like, to me, I feel the same, you know, inside. So, like, I have that very weird dichotomy of like, I look so young. but I remember it like it was yesterday in a way, you know? Yeah. I remember a lot of it.

I don't remember all of it. No, I didn't remember all of what's on camera, right? Yes, exactly. Like you have kind of like a, like a filter in your memory of like the good parts for like as an actor or whatever. Right. Right. First of all, let me back up. It was, I know you're working.

That's the other thing I want to talk about. I am working. You know, as a writer like trying to get stuff going, you know. Yeah. I'm so impressed. That makes, you know, well, thanks. Sometimes I am. Sometimes I'm just disappointed.

Well, I mean, that's our business, isn't it? Right? Like, it's always going to be one with the other. There's never just glory, right? That's right. And look, I should say at the top of this, I'm sorry. I don't know how you feel about the fact that you guys aren't continuing. Oh, very upset.

I'm very upset. I'm very upset and confused. and thank you for saying you're sorry because, you know, we've all been through so many different things, right, in our careers. And you've been nominated for an Oscar, like since you were on Sex and the City, which was really kind of like somewhat early in your career,

though I remember at the time that I thought, you know, you'd been on Broadway with Cynthia and Angels in America and, you know, you were a big deal to us at the time, and then you became an even greater deal in terms of your multifaceted career. Okay, all right. You got to rewind a second.

They mean audition for this. So I like, and I was getting some offers for stuff, not a lot, but I was like, I'm going to go out to Queens to audition for like a one episode thing. Seriously, but I was going to do it. Shame on them. Well, I'm glad you did it. Thank God. Thank God. I mean, look, auditioning I think is always semi much a nightmare.

It's not good at it at all. but I have enjoyed because we all remember our first trip to Queens as well and being like, where are we? What is happening? What is the show? And whenever I talk to people and they tell me their funny audition stories about how either they refused to go and they missed out on one role and then they come back or whatever it is and then they had to get out there and they were like where it's a very enjoyable part of it all

for me because I remember that all so vividly too. But it's funny because I know that at that point I feel like one of the things we were trying to do that Cynthia was really a big part of was trying to get great theater actors because we had access to all the great theater actors and here we are in Manhattan. There was law and order and there was us. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, it was like, you know, it was one of those godsends. There were not that many shows, right, that were shooting in New York. And I don't know how many times I auditioned for law and order and I never got on law order. Like I cried. I got angry. I, you know, my child was kidnapped. Like, whatever it was. Oh, my God. I was a stalker.

Like, whatever it was. And I never, I never got in that show. That's crazy. One New York actor who's never put on that show. Oh, my God. Me neither. Me neither. But I'm not totally a New York actor, but me neither. I was. I was, in fact, busy. Yes, it's true. Go ahead. So when you went out to see our guys, did you have to go more than once? No, I went out once. And it was basically like, I mean, Everybody was very nice. It was, what I remember was, I think, Cindy Shupak was there probably Pam Thomas, who directed the episode. And I think maybe Jenny Bex, but I don't, but I'm not sure. Well, those are all the people that we collectively were crushing on you.

So that makes sense. But I just had Cindy on and she was like, Futterman. And I was like, Futterman. Like, we just had a whole moment. Okay But it was You know It was like a semi-humiliating audition

Where they're basically like get up on a chair And be scared No Like that was what I did Wow Wow Yes You certainly did

You certainly did I mean the thing I love so many things About your part And that episode And we did discuss with Cindy Like what holds up What doesn't hold up

Do you remember at the time Everyone was saying Was saying the word Metrosexual as though it was like a thing. And now it's gone. I think that's okay. Like, what's wrong with that?

Totally. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, that was what Cindy and I were talking about too. Like, like, because I do, there were things I remembered about it. And then there were things I didn't, right? Of course, which is always true. And at the end, I love the voiceover.

I mean, we'll refresh our viewers' memory or our listeners, whichever we want to call them. Danny is in Evolution, which is in Season 2, towards the end. And the thing that I remember it most for, other than the fact that you were amazing, and I was so excited to have you, was that this is really literally

Charlotte's first kind of positive type sex scene. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'd had these other sex scenes where it's kind of like a joke or something's going horribly wrong, right?

And I'm in the scene, just trying to get out of the scene as an actor. You know what I'm trying to say? I'm more to find. and or uncomfortable, as is Charlotte, right? And do you remember, because Pam came from commercials, that she, I don't know how much you were part of this because we didn't have the intimacy coordinators,

but she had a whole plan for how to film the scene, and she and I talked at length about it, and she was going to, you know, she had the track above us, I think, you know. And it was very cool and beautiful. And this is the first time Charlotte's ever had a beautiful sex scene that she's enjoying. And yet it wasn't enough. I know, which I'm really sorry about, but I do love the final.

I mean, this is like somewhat the stupidity of Charlotte, right? And I really shouldn't say stupidity of Charlotte because that will be the clickbait of this talk. But, you know, she had some weird, her vision was, you know, extremely elevated at this point in time, right? And you had to check so many boxes. I mean, it was elaborate, which I do think is something that women, and probably men can relate to, right? But I do love the final voiceover, which I had forgotten about, which says Charlotte realized that she was not in touch with her male side enough to be involved with someone who was so in touch with their female side, something good, that effect,

which I thought was pretty clever and accurate. You know, Charlotte is not particularly evolved in terms of her masculine side, right? Yeah. So, all right, I'm going to, this is very deeply personal, but I'm going to, I'm going to disclose. I can't wait. So you, so they're this scene on the bed before Stefan and Charlotte have sex. And you say, you sit up and you're like, are you gay? So early in my relationship, and I just started dating Anya, my wife, she, I cannot tell you how many times she said that to me. Instead, she said exactly, and she said, if you are gay, just tell me.

now. Oh, my God. It's where I falling in love. And this continued once we got married. Like, three years, and part of it was, I mean, not part of it, but like a lot of it was I'd been in Angels in America. Right. I've been on this show.

Right. That winter, Anya and I went to Sundance where I was in a movie called Urbania. Oh, yeah. I played a gay man who's like searching for the guy who killed his. lover you know soon some time after that i did like a four episode thing on will and grace called fagin where they're like will and jack are teaching are teaching jack's cousin i think it was how to be properly gay you know so so like she you know there was a oh oh and i think that the last thing was i um i had i had i had

this quilt that like at some I was like I need a blanket for my bed like so I'm walking through concrete there and I'm like this is a nice blanket I'll just buy this blanket and it was like let's just say it had some pink in it this is so good yeah it was like the first place where you know we were of course and at some point she was just like what are you why are you gay I love it. First of all, I didn't realize that you played that many characters, and that is so fascinating. And what do you think about it now when you look back on it being a straight actor playing those characters? Well, you know, I probably wouldn't have gotten to. You know, if it was an adult, I might not have gotten to play that, all those roles. And so I don't know. I don't know they totally believe that. There, I see, you know, I see plays all the time where I'm, I'm like, I know that guy's straight and he's playing gay part or what, you know, so maybe that's not true.

Yeah, it's unclear right now, I think. Yeah, there might have been more of an issue with it. But, like, I don't know. I just felt, I don't know, I felt comfortable playing, you know, whatever. It's amazing. Any judgment, any thought about it. And characters are all different from one another, too. Right.

Very much. Very, very, very different. I mean, I didn't realize. I guess I hadn't, at the time, I don't think I really would have categorized. like, oh, that guy played a gay guy. Like, who cared? Do you know what I mean? Like, obviously, you would want to be in Angels in America.

Who wouldn't want to be in, like, one of the most brilliant and important, you know, plays about something so important in our lives, right? Oh, God, yeah. And also, that's, I mean, I was in the second cast. I replaced Joe Mantello. Right. That second cast was amazing. Absolutely. F. Murray Abraham.

Oh, my God. Replaced Ron Liebman, right? Steven Spinella hung around for a while, which was incredible. Cynthia Nixon, yes. Marcia Gay-Harden, like. Unbelievable, I know. And who replaced Ellen McLaughlin?

Who? Sherry Jones. Oh my God, right. And Sherry's going to come on our show soon, and I can't wait. Okay, well, there you go. Incredible. All of you. I thought she was, I mean, I sort of idolized her already.

Yeah. And she hadn't done, you know, half the stuff that she's done by now. Right. I remember she came in. She came in after I came in. And there's a scene in the hospital where Ellen McLaughlin used to get a laugh on some line. And for Cherry Jones wasn't getting the laugh. Like, who cares?

Whatever. She wasn't getting a laugh. And she like came to me backstage. She's like, why am I not getting a laugh on this line? And I thought, I don't fucking know. I have no idea. A, I'm not going to give you acting advice. Right.

But B, I have no idea. but that was an incredible that was an incredible cast and I the truth is a huge crush on Cynthia at the time and Cynthia had a crush on you which I found out later she did not no no she did not

why do you say that because I don't know because at the time she was with Danny I know I know the other Dan another Danny but she and I discussed you and I remember this yes I do any sign of it there was a collective crush on you in our world. And so we just shared our like, oh, and this, you know, and then, and she'd be like, oh,

and this. And the reason that I remember it is because she was still with Danny, the father of her children. And I thought of them at the time as like invincible and the, you know, an amazing couple. And I was kind of like, oh, my God, you got a crush on Danny Fireman. Oh, like I was kind of like, it seemed dangerous to me, you know. well she didn't betray any of it i i mean look she's got a good cover going on you know what i'm saying she can she can really keep it close to the vest but i mean she really lobbied for you in terms of you being on the show because at that point in time and i have to clarify with her she had a list of

actors really predominantly theater actors right which she felt like oh they would be amazing on the show and she would go in and pitch them like for sarah's guys or my guys or her guys obviously and you know it was always like just a really good kind of a, you know, like reminder to our casting people and our producers that, you know, we have this incredible group of actors that you might not think of. This is really interesting because she has never been, I guess she has never been quiet about that kind of thing. I mean, I'm a very honored that I was on her list. But when we were doing that play, she was going to leave after a certain period of time. She had offered to do another play. I don't remember what it was. And. I think what the story I heard is that she told George Wolfe. Right. Her actor that if he, because Stephen Spinella was going to leave by this point, that if he hired John Cameron Mitchell to replace Stephen, she would stay.

Wow. Wow, is right. Yeah. And I don't know why. Like sometimes directors just have this thing about actors. Yeah. I guess maybe because John was so associated with Hedwig. Hedwig, yes.

Right, that was the time, right, the time of Hedwig, yeah. Right, it had just been downtown at Jane Street, you know, and he was, you know, everybody who was in theater had seen that and just, and he just didn't want to do it. And so she left. Oh, my gosh. She really has always been very much a champion, and I think rightly so because she's been in theater, you know, her whole life.

And I think she understands the kind of sometimes forgotten about, you know, incredible riches that are there in terms of actors. And I think for our people, I think they did understand that. But at the same time, it always helped to remind, you know, to like pitch like, like, hey, what about this person? So when you came, the reason that it came up, and thank God you had already met Anya, because I would have just been like, but I had to behave myself, which is good, which is good. because then you can just put it in the work you know what I'm saying and when I see us on screen one of the things that I think about

and I you know it's hard to separate myself from Charlotte at this point obviously but I'm just so comfortable with you which is so nice. We're good together. We really, yeah, we I felt the same way about those scenes. I was like that is a really good

first of all it's a great storyline and Cindy is a great writer and really funny. and but it's also you know every one of the stories in that is there's nothing that's in there that's just to be funny they're all story and they are an hour thing and I think there's like a real comfort in our thing and you are so kind of tortured about it and trying to figure it out and like bringing your friends in to try to figure this out and wanting it to work but it just doesn't, it just doesn't sit well with you. But it's a, yeah, I had a ball doing it. And, and I'm

sad you guys aren't continuing because I was going to use this opportunity to pitch myself to begin. That would have been amazing. Where I, you know, cater it or something. Oh my God. Fantastic opportunity missed. November 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal, glass.

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and, you know, I feel comfortable talking to you about it, but it's been very, very weird. The whole trying to come back with this different, but similar show, right? Like different show. which we were very clear about. It's a different show, you guys, same characters, which I really think I was naive about how weird that was for people.

You know what I'm saying? For our fans, right? Like, it's kind of asking a lot of fans, I guess. I guess. I'm still trying to figure this out. But I did just this morning, Cynthia sent me a podcast from people on the New York Times. It's called Cannonball with Wesley Morris, and he has this incredible guest, Taffy Prodessor Act.

who is a super fan of sex in the city and and just like that. And she was saying things that made me feel so much better and really gave me hope. Like at this point, I'm looking for any understanding of what we were trying to do. You know what I mean? What did the podcast say? The podcast said this incredible woman was on. I should find her name because I literally was listening to it on the car on the way here. it said that you might sound crazy what I'm going to say she is I believe she's in her early 50s or maybe 49 so she's

slightly younger than us but on the precipice like middle age right she basically said it's a documentary of middle age I know I feel so seen you know what I'm saying I feel so seen and she said one of the amazing things about it for herself it was that she had watched it when she was younger. She had a lot of really profound and in-depth things to say about the first show and what it meant to women and how unusual it was to see four strong women, you know, leading a show, which I think people forget about, right, that this was kind of unheard of, right? Right. And thank God we got to do it. And that she used it kind of as a model of like who she wanted to be and how she wanted to be. And this is a writer in New York. So

of course, it would be very much in her wheelhouse or whatever. And then she said that what the HBO Max app would do is when she would watch it just like that, when it was over, it would go into whatever episode of Sex and the City she had last been watching. So she would see our older selves and then it would bleed into our younger selves. And she talked about, she said she might cry talking about it. And I might cry talking about it because it's so, you know, it's like the kind of, you know, profound. of the time spent, you know, and us being on camera, you know, when we were so young, obviously, I mean, not that young, but compared to now young. And now, and like for us, it was this thing where we knew, okay, people are going to have

a lot of thoughts and feelings about it, but we didn't really understand the depth of confusion and or, I guess, struggle about us aging and, um, aging and, trying to talk about the things that you talk about and deal with in your 50s. It's like a lot. People have like some super strong feelings about it. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I don't know what people's reaction was.

But for you, I mean, I just am much more interested in your reaction to it. It's obviously emotional and meaningful. I mean, you got it's not only that you guys were playing these roles that meant a lot to people still do and a whole other generation of people. But you also, it's like a snapshot of your life where you're forming these in really important friendships with people. Absolutely. Right. I mean, this was, I was fairly early. It was second season, right?

Right. In terms of the entirety of the show. So you guys are probably just becoming really close to one another. Absolutely. And seeing that and seeing yourselves and remembering all those feelings is got to, you know, have a profound impact. I know just watching the show. I was very aware, that was a very formative year for me and all of that stuff kind of came up watching, watching the episode.

You remember like all like meeting Anya, your wife and what you were doing? Oh my God. I was, I was, I had met her, I don't remember when we filmed, sometime in the spring, I think. Definitely, yes, because it's towards the end of the second season and we would go back in February. So it was probably like the best part of the spring. June, yeah, yeah, maybe May or June, something like that. And that previous September, October, I had shot, was a guest on homicide.

And that was what Bonnie was writing for. Oh, I forgot this. That's when I met her. And I remember, and I had been engaged. to somebody. And, but I think we were both pretty unhappy. It just wasn't been together like four and a half years and kind of like, what are we doing, what are we doing and got engaged, not the right decision.

Interesting. I don't remember that. Yeah. Lesson for all the younger people listening to this. If it's been four and a half years and you still don't know, maybe that's not, you shouldn't be doing this, right? Good advice. Good advice.

I had read the script that Anya had written. And then I remember very, very clearly walking out of my little cubby trail. You know, like you get your guess, you get its tiny little cubicle. Yes, yes. And walking out and being told about that's the writer and thinking, that's the person I should be engaged to. Wow. A little unfair. She's beautiful, but also she had written.

It was like a little unfair. It wasn't just like I had read something that she had written that was meaningful to her. so I knew something about her, but I really did have that thought. That's amazing. That's amazing. We have an episode a couple times ago about love at first sight. And I say, yes, I have experienced love at first sight. It did not work out for me, which is the sad part, but I have experienced it, and it was a great experience.

But I love to hear that you experienced it, and it worked out. And can I add that I let my house to you guys? I feel like I'm invested, like I'm part of it. Are you still in that same house or now? No, no, I sold that house. Okay. So you did an incredibly kind thing for me because I was going out to L.A. I did not live there. And I was going to be on a regular on a show on judging Amy with Amy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot that that was the show. Oh, my gosh. Amazing. And you really kindly said, I'm not going to be there in the spring. Do you want to stay there? Because I'd be probably shooting the new season. Exactly, yeah.

And I said, that's really great. Yes, I would love to. And it was gorgeous, such a gorgeous house. Thank you. And then it was like, I didn't even tell you. Oh, by the way, Anya's going to be staying with. Well, you don't have to tell me. Can I say who you were dating at the time?

Who is it, whisper? No, I'm not going to whisper it. I'll just. He's okay. I actually just saw him at the homicide reunion, which I went. Okay. then you can talk about it, yes. If he's okay, then please talk about it.

He's great. I said to him, I think that was the last time I saw him. I think it might have been the last time. No way. You. Oh, my God. You remember what happened? You walked in the house with him,

and you had left me a message saying, hey, I'm going to be home this weekend. And Ani and I were like, we, I think we were in bed. We were not like having sex in bed, but I think we were in bed. I don't remember this. Oh, my God. And you were like, oh, oh, you were so nice, though I can't imagine what was going on inside.

You're like, oh, no, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. Don't worry about it. I had not, I didn't even think I had a cell phone at the time. So like, listen to my messages. Oh, I love it. You were so nice. And you were like, we're going to go stay in a hotel. It's totally fine, totally fine. And you left with Reed Diamond. Read Diamond. It's who it was. I did, I did date Reed Diamond. I do not remember walking in the house and you not knowing that I was coming. I remember that I said to you, go stay in my house, because also I had, like, for me, you know, the success of the show, obviously unexpected. You never think these things are going to succeed. You know how it is. And so I had bought this house. I feel like after the pilot before the show.

And I remember going to the show and Sarah Jessica saying, like, are you crazy? And I was like, it's going great. Why shouldn't I buy this house? Like, weirdly, you know, Pollyanna, right? But it was a really special, like I called it my tree house. It was like up in the canyon and amazing. Right. Thank you. Thank you so much.

I loved it. Not everyone loved it. I had a terrible time selling it. But I did sell it eventually because I needed a bigger house for the kids. Because it was kind of a tree house. It wasn't necessarily like a huge house. It was just special, I thought. And big enough for the family in case, just if you're not worried about them falling off of the balcony.

100%. It was not the safest house for little children. I did have my one child there and I just policed her, you know, like super. Sure. But I guess we got a bit more of a flatter house, not so far up. But I had guilt about that house, right? Like, it was so weird to own a house. I had never owned a house.

So I was always feeling like, oh, does someone need a house? Like, please stay in my house if I liked you, obviously. Do you know what I mean? And for you guys, I didn't, I wouldn't, I mean, you didn't have to tell me anything about what you were doing as long as you weren't like, you know, having the police called or whatever. Do you know what I'm saying? And I remember thinking that Anya was so cool.

Like, I was like, oh, thank God, he's with an awesome woman since he's not with me. And I guess I was with Reed. I felt like I felt like I pulled such a dick move and was like, sure. Oh, oh my God. You're a grown up. You're a grown up. No, I just remember, like for me, it made me so happy that you were staying there, right? Because I had my little secret crush on you.

Apparently, I was Danny Reed, so I really shouldn't have been having a crush on you. I can never remember things linearly. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. And if there are a lot of them, then, you know, it's very, very difficult. a lot of a lot of boyfriends i don't know there aren't that many boyfriends because the schedule was such that it was really pretty much impossible to survive which i don't know if reed mentioned was like basically the problem with what happened there i mean i'm sure other problems he's happily married now

thank god good for him but um you know we were dating into the third season and the third season yeah you hung in there for a while and the third season i remember the first season i remember the first week that we went back to work was a hundred-hour week. Oh, God. Yeah. And here I'm dating at the time an unemployed actor. I mean, what hell must he have been in, you know? Yeah. And both I can never see you and stop complaining you're working.

Yes, exactly. Because homicide had just gotten canceled stupidly. Yep. That's why Any was able to come out. Yeah. Right. Right. And it's so sad.

That was like an incredible show. an incredible show in all the ways. I had forgotten all of that. Oh, my God. I love it. And so they just had a homicide reunion? It was like a 30th reunion of when it started, maybe. Wow.

Yeah. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Wow. Love it. Homicide life on the street, you guys. Look it up. Yeah. It was a really groundbreaking show.

I mean, it was really like an HBO show, but it was on NBC. Absolutely true. Absolutely true. And, and the cat, I mean, it was, it was. Incredible. Yeah, Tom Fontana just had, who was a creator of it, you know, just has kind of amassed this enormous family. He and Barry Levinson.

And so I was, I'm a part of it because of Anya, you know, I was in a, you know, one episode. So, yeah, and that's where I saw a read there. And it was really nice to see him and connect. And I apologize to him. And he said, no, no, I don't care. As I never would have been able to stay in the hermitage. if I if I uh was wow I can't remember I can't remember any of this isn't that funny it's funny because

like when I'm rewatching because I had never seen the episodes before I've been rewatching for the podcast and I have such vivid memories of some of it and then some of it like I didn't remember I knew intellectually that there was something that went wrong with our relationship on screen right but mostly what I remember is that we were so excited to get you and I remember talking to Cynthia about you. And then I remember this sex scene because I had so many fears and then ended up really enjoying it because you, of course, are a respectful and lovely co-star and were very much, you know, in it with me in a way where it was like easy. You know what I mean? It wasn't hard. It was really comfortable. I mean, and I really credited, I had no idea that you had spoken

talked through it with Pam, which is great. I say Pam as if I know her. I just, she directed that. I thought she was terrific. Me too. And she made it really comfortable. It was kind of quick. Yeah. Even though I don't, I didn't remember all the positions. I just was like one memory of it. And then I was like, oh my God. We must have filmed for a while. I know. It was a lot. Remember that. But I feel like she was like, here, sit up. And she got like one shot and said, okay, do this. Yeah. It was really quick. And she had it planned out. Yeah. And you seemed really comfortable, which makes, which made me feel comfortable. Because it's, you know, I, I have, as a guy you're supposed to feel comfortable, you know, that's sort of what you're, but you seem

totally fine. So that may you. I'm so glad. I think that's because it was you and because she did really include me. And because I did love the story. Like, it was a very different type of story for Charlotte than compared to what she had been having. And I credit Cindy and the writing, you know, with that as well. And then casting you, it was like, Like one of my most, because in my mind, first season, second season were kind of a wash in a weird way in terms of like storylines because I think we were just trying to find ourselves in a lot of ways. When I look back now that I'm rewatching, a lot of the episodes are so incredibly good, so much better than what I remembered. But in my mind, this one was up at the tippy top in terms of enjoyment factor in terms of like a beginning, middle and end of a storyline for Charlotte, which kind of took a while for those to get good. going? I mean, look, I'm biased, but I think you had a great storyline. But all the storylines

work, right? Exactly. It's not always the case in every show, right? It's hard. But I think all of them worked in this one. Yeah. Because I'm lazy, I'm like, I watched it. And then, you know, it's like 10, 9, 8. The next one's going to start. And I'm like, I don't feel like reaching for the remote. Let's watch it. And the next one's good, too. And it was interesting to see Sarah Jessica Parker do something totally different that, which was she got, and it reminds you like, oh, she's a really good actor. Because a lot of, you know, part of it's kind of light in the, you know, but she was really fucking pissed at Mr. Big for, you know, and she gets really angry.

Yeah, I remember this. Yeah. It's good. And so that was, it was kind of nice to see. Here, I'm curious about this, actually. Sure. One, the one thing, not the one thing, but among the things I thought watching it was, uh, there's, for instance, the, see, we're walking down the street. I think it's the first time

you meet my character, right? We're walking, I have my glasses. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. And the hailing cab, right, hail the cab. Oh, I know. Right. I know what you're going to say. And it's, there's a lot of silence. There's like, and I, the lines weren't written. And I'm curious if later, on. I mean, I thought, I'm not going to add. I just can imagine what I was thinking. I'm not going to ad lib. This is a funny script. I'm not going to fuck it up. Like, you know, there's all, a lot of it's one take because it's just us. Which I love so much. I'm not going to fuck this up. So, yeah. I'm not going to add lib because maybe they might not want it or. And, but it's a lot, it's, it's, there's a lot of gaping holes in it, even though it's edited to fit together. Right.

Do you guys ad lib later on or that just wasn't? We were not allowed to ad lib because one time they let us and then they just lost control. Yeah. I bet. You know how tightly Michael Patrick writes, right? Like his comedy is very like the rhythm is really kind of fast and it's very tight, right? At least the first show. And I think what happened when I watched it, I was also confused in that scene.

First of all, I just love a oneer. I'm like, oh, my God, I love it so much. And we just kind of lost that somewhere along the way. And I think some of it was because we couldn't afford other things back then, right? But also it's just as an actor, the joy of walking down in New York City Street and a oneer is just, oh, so special. So I also, like, you know when I go to hail the cab and I'm supposedly showing my leg, which I absolutely do not do. I do like, what I'm like, okay, that's supposed to. funny and weird. I hate my legs, which I know, and I'm sure, you know, Pat also was not always

a fan of my legs. Oh, come on. No, for real, for real. Don't even get me started. But, yeah, yeah, not so much. So I thought about that watching it, because also there's a long silence there where you're like, what's happening? Exactly. Like, yeah. There are two cars coming in. Like, I get, it's not part of the one shot anymore. It's, there's coverage there because the cars have to have to come in. Right. But it's weird. It's weird. It's weird. And this is what I think it is also. First of all, I think it's the oneer and trying to cut together, right? But I also think because we still had the voiceover, there would have to be weird times and scenes where you weren't talking, but you're still acting because she's going to connect it with the voiceover. But what they did do, and I would have to ask Cindy specifically about this episode, they would sometimes change the voiceover later. Oh, yeah. Okay. So that could have been, it could have been that there was supposed to be more voiceover, but then they changed it once they saw our performance.

That's interesting because there are kind of no lines after I kiss you. Right. And it's like total silence as if I'm waiting for a reaction and you're getting, there's no conversation you get. No, right. It's odd. But it's also, I thought it was so great because I couldn't remember either. I was like, oh my God, what's happening? what's happening but also you kiss me so well you know like it's so good but it doesn't it's sort of the end of it

and then it's like okay silence definitely and i don't say buy or anything but then they cut to me and i touch my glasses which i'm pretty sure pam told me to do because it doesn't even look like i really want to touch my glasses it looks like i just want to stare at you but i touch my glasses because someone told me to um but i think it was also i would say budget stuff right because, like, I think that Pam had this very visual plan. She had storyboards, I remember, and, like, none of our directors had storyboards. Like, that was a shock. Like, what?

Oh, my God. No, it's a really well, it's a well shot show. Right. And I think for her, she was trying to get her visual plan in order and yet afford it, right? Yeah. Which is always a struggle, as you know. Is there anything else that you remember about the time and, like, what did people say to you after the show? Oh, I remember my friend, Craig.

thought I had totally stolen his personality and that I was playing him. That's funny. I was like, A, Craig, I have a lot of gay friends, but, but no, I just, I mean, I'm not, I'm just playing, I'm just playing the part. But he, to this day, feels like I was. And this is a, this is a sort of, I get recognized from this part. So you do look the same. See, I love that.

It does become more and more of a compliment if I get recognized. Nice, nice, nice. Because I don't act anymore, you know, so I don't. So wait, you don't act at all. I mean, I would act in something maybe if it came up, but I wouldn't go to Queens on audition for it. Got it. I don't know that I feel totally, I'm not sure if I would feel totally comfortable.

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So you're just writing and, like, show running and or producing and or directing. Not directing. Not directing. Okay. So you're producing, creating, writing. Yeah. Sometimes on, you know, sometimes on my own, I'm doing something now with another friend of mine. So, yeah.

So if I get recognized it's from a while ago and I definitely take it as a compliment now. Yeah. Right? Because that's 25 years ago or more. It's amazing. Yeah, absolutely. And then I try to, you know, there are times when, because it doesn't happen very often because it is so long ago. But there are a few things that I might get recognized from.

And if I do, I try to guess what it is. I'm like in my mind, I guess what it is. Yeah, the bird cage. Right. Yeah. And that's because that's continuing, in a way that this has too. That's like, that is still something that I think. thought that would not have aged well. If I could have predicted 15 years ago, would this, you know, given sort of changing

cultural environment, would that have aged poorly? I would think, yes, but not at all. Interesting. Not at all. I love it. And same with the first sex in the city. I mean, I don't think that has aged very well. Better than one would have thought.

When I got asked, my agent just sent me an email, do they asked if you want to do this. you want to do it and I was at first I was like a little nervous about us I don't I do this I'm not sure and I mentioned it my daughters who are 25 and 19 24 my god wow I said um they happen to be around and I was like should I should I do this and they were absolutely you have to do this because they are fans of the show oh this has you know it really amazing in a way that you would think it, you know, these things would not. I mean, yeah, no, it's incredible, and we feel so, like, just incredibly grateful and lucky, you know, it's just luck, really, that we happen to be there at the right time and get

the chance to do what we wanted to do, you know, and that it connected, because you never know if anything is going to connect. It's true. And that you continue to have these great writers that stayed, that stayed with the shit. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's a hard thing in our business. Yes, it is. People leave other things. And, and what I guess, I don't know, not sure how long Cindy Shubak stuck around. Was she there for? I think she stayed till the end. Yeah. I mean, both Cindy and Jenny got big deals to go off and do their own thing. But I feel, and I'd have to double check if she was there to the bitter end. You know what I'm saying? But like definitely the final season she was there. Yeah. And then they went off and did their own things. But I mean, we still see them, which is just such a joy.

Yeah. No, that's really me. It really helps the show stay together. And then, you know, all you guys wanted to continue to do it, I'm sure there was a, there were conversations at some point. Should we keep doing it? Should we not? They probably had some of you for, what, five years or something? And then you can. I mean, they had me for seven. I don't ever like to talk about anyone else. I had like a standard, like standard pilot deal, right? And I would have kept going. But because Sarah and Sin had both had babies towards the, towards right before us, the final season. I think Sarah Jessica, especially, Cynthia is so like, oh, yeah, I have a baby. It's fine. You know, she's very, like, I can do anything. But I think Sarah, because it was her first,

really felt, you know, the need to be there. And, you know, the struggle of like, am I a good enough mom if I'm at work? It's a hard thing, obviously, to navigate. And so she, I think also very similar to now with, and just like that, Michael and Sarah are very much a partnership. You know, they work very well together, very closely together. They respect each other creatively.

And at the time, I feel like both of them felt when the first show ended, Sex and City, so that would have been 2004, they felt like it's so hard to make a weekly show and keep it good, you know? And the rest of us were like, what don't end? You know, like I just remember just panic, just absolute panic. But I do think, I mean, you've made shows yourselves. Like, it's grueling for the writers. It can be. I've only written, well, shorter shows.

You guys were doing, I didn't realize the second season was 18 episodes. I know. I think the third season might be 21 or something. It was a lot. I've never done something like that. It was more like 10. Right. Well, that's how it is now, nowadays.

You know, 10 is like normal or whatever. Right. That's very, very different. So you plan in advance, you write in advance. Most of it's written. Well, at least the things that I've done tend to have been. So, because that ends up being less expensive, you know, because you can plan it all out and what are you shooting together.

You know all this. But, but it's, yeah, I mean, you just got, you guys hit something. I guess it's lucky. I guess it's just, you know, you guys are all so talented and you worked well together. And you had great writing and you got a, you know, a bunch of great directors that kept coming back, right? yeah so important yeah so important i assume your crew hung around because oh yeah you know what also i'm so silly like i i don't know lately i think because i didn't realize that we were going to end and just like that so i'm still processing and like uh so pollyanna that i thought we would just keep going um but like

when we came back i thought we would have the same crew but we couldn't we couldn't get the same crew because they had all moved on to bigger things. Or retired. Or retired. Absolutely. Absolutely correct. I mean, we did get some, like we got our set people back. But like Jeremy, who had been our, I guess he was like our overall designer of everything.

He went on to do the Olympics. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, insane things. And then our, I saw some behind the scenes pictures the other day. And our focus puller, Joe Collins is now like, a big deal DP, you know, like huge and or director. You know what I'm saying? Like, he should be, right?

So I'm thrilled for them. But I remember when we got to and just like that, I was like, these people are all so young. Oh my gosh. But that's how it should be, right? Like new people coming up. And they were incredible on their own. So, but I remember just like, wait, where are the other people?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, probably you, you're looking for that sense of security too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in my mind, it would, because we were the same, with some new additions, obviously, but, you know, we were together. And so I just kind of, in my mind, assumed that the larger picture would be the same. But the world has changed.

I mean, it was such a different environment to go back to work. And that was when we went back to work, it was just right after COVID. So it was really, you know, early days, like the masks and all the stuff. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, that was a bummer. How did you feel integrating the new characters into the show? I loved it.

I loved it so much because they are just incredible people and incredible characters and it made it exciting for us. I mean, I guess apparently that was part of what people didn't like. I don't know. I don't even know why I'm trying to figure out people because it's confusing. I know, I know, I know. Can I tell you my issue? My issue, I used to really try to protect myself from, you know, media and critics and whatever. But because of the podcast, I'm more kind of in it.

You know what I'm trying to say? Like I look at more stuff. my phone knows that I'm always talking about sex in the city, so it's always showing me stuff annoyingly. So it's just, I'm more in the world of it all than I used to be. I used to just feel like I know what it is inside me. You know what I'm saying? I know what I wanted to do.

I know what we did. I know what we meant to do. And I still do feel that, especially with and just like that. Like I know what we were making. I don't know what people were necessarily seeing when they watched it. but I think like that's how our businesses right people are projecting all kind of things of their own and their own expectations and or desires and or disappointments or whatever it is they have such strong feelings and so when I can be calm about it I know that that's a compliment right

it well for you guys people feel so personally about you guys too but but you have that I mean I you know in the various shows that I've done you get praise that's great, you get slammed, that sucks, but you have no control over it. And it's not as if you tried harder or less hard without the one, I put less of yourself into the ones that just don't click. Right. It's, it's just part of the territory, but it's, it's, it's painful. It can be really painful, yeah. And it's just been, my biggest thing is that it's been very confusing. I'm still confused. And I do not like to be confused. I like to understand things, right? So, I am somewhat trying to seek some understanding.

And I am getting some, you know, I'm getting some. Cynthia sent me something really helpful today. Cynthia's always there for me trying to, you know, talk calmly and practically to me, which is a great thing because I'm often kind of up in my, you know, like fantasy world somewhat. You're also so deeply in it doing this podcast too. So it's, and you're revisiting it with, you know, me and somebody else next week. And so that's hard. It's hard to escape.

It is hard to escape. Everybody says, oh, I'm sorry, you guys aren't on anymore. You know, and. Right. No, but that's nice. That's nice because you're in it and you understand what it's like. I mean, it's better than people going like, onward and upward.

I'm like, no, no, no, I'm not there yet. Right. This just happened. And I didn't know what was happening. So give me a moment. But yeah, I mean, I do love looking back at it, though, because I hadn't, like I said, I hadn't looked at it. And I'm just so, it's kind of amazing.

I'm just like amazed by it because I mean people will talk to me obviously about it all the time and like your daughters like when it came on Netflix and the younger people started watching I was like this is amazing. That's why I wanted to do the podcast. And then the joy of the podcast is getting to talk to people like you and Cindy and also new people who are fans of the show. Like it's fascinating. It's my kind of thing, right? Like to investigate and talk about and talk about our memories and also like how the world has changed or not changed. So I do love that part. It's just sometimes hard to incorporate. all everybody's thoughts and feelings. Of course, and making the transition from just celebrating, and isn't it incredible where you're continuing to, ugh, you're like you're mourning in a little bit right now while you're celebrating.

For sure. Danny, let me tell you, it was like suddenly walking into your own funeral when you didn't know it was coming. I mean, it was like we died. I had a certain point.

I had to be like, okay, I got to stop. I got to put my phone down. My phone is currently ruined for me. I cannot look at Instagram. I cannot see any more pictures of our young selves. And the odes, you know, they're lovely odes to the death of our characters, but they didn't die. And I'm here and I'm fine.

I'm good. You know what I mean? Yeah, but sad. That's okay. It is sad. It is sad. I'm not dead. This is, you know, where I'm at right now.

Of course. And you know what? The joy is. Sarah and Cynthia and I had dinner. I think last week in New York and, you know, all the time, you know, ever since we started in 1997 or whatever it was, we sometimes were working and sometimes we weren't, but we're always in each other's lives. Yeah.

So that's, I need to just like, no one's leaving my life, you know, that's our on-screen life. That's not our real life, right? That's important. But yeah, I mean, I am, as you know, anytime a job ends, you're kind of warning it in a way, right? but this is like our kind of our lifelong job. And in reality, it's hard to really believe that it will end because, again, I'm going to see them all and we're all going to do stuff, I'm sure, whatever.

And do and play other roles, right? Right. I mean, that hasn't happened yet, but I really look forward to it. You know what I mean? Yes. And I think, I mean, I was curious to ask you this. Tell me. Obviously, it's an incredible blessing to have this and have it last for so long.

I also would imagine that you and others have felt like, oh, there were opportunities you didn't get to do because people associated you quite closely with these roles. I mean, for sure. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know what they are. You know what I mean? I don't even think they come to you, right? Like they just, you're kind of like your energy in the business is kind of sucked up by this. Right.

You know what I mean? Right. But you know what? It's like, what are you going to do about that? There's really nothing to do. There's nothing you can do about it. But I think what I'm saying is that maybe you'll be sprung from that a little bit. I mean, let's hope so because God knows we have a very big profile.

Yeah. Let's put that to use for something else. You know what I mean? Because no one can stop talking about us, which is interesting. Very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. But you got a lot of years of acting.

I hope so because I love it. Yes. You know? Yeah. So, you know, just it brings new opportunities as well. I mean, yeah. I'm slightly getting there. You know, like, like, I think also because we started working on and just like that right

after COVID, right? So it had been like a year plus of like no one being able to do anything, which made it even more exciting to get to go back to these, these much loved characters that we get to do together, right? But it is hard to remember back before when like, you'd get this job. you'd get that job you know what i mean like that kind of it's almost like a journeyman thinking you know like i look forward to that i'm i'm ready for that we'll see i mean sometimes you send you things to develop and i'm like i will try to develop things but we all know that's very hard yes it is yes

it is very hard as you know but yeah it's all our business is crazy as you know and we're just lucky to still be in it yep danny you're incredible you're incredible yourself i'm so glad that you come on. Thank you for the actor pep dog. I needed it. Yeah. Well, you deserve it. You deserve everything good that's coming to you in the future. Thank you, Danny. You too. Tell it on you, hi. I will. And tell your daughters, thank you because I really wanted you to come on. It made me very happy. Thank you. Nice to see you over Zoom. Good to see you too. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport.

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