Are You A Charlotte? - Do You Even Need A Man? with Mary Beth Barone...

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

In this episode, Eddie Cahill plays Carrie’s new boyfriend, Sean, who dates both men and women. Kristin is joined by Overcompensating star Mary Beth Barone to discuss Carrie’s reaction to her new guy.Plus, find out the guest star that Kristin is absolutely fangirling over! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I don't even know if I could even count the number of times I've watched. in the city all the way through. You couldn't even count? I think I do a rewatch once a year, and I just finished my recent rewatch maybe like four months ago. And then when I went back to watch the episode, we're going to talk about,

I almost let it keep playing. But I was like, I can't do this. I actually can't do this. I love to hear that. Yeah. It's one of my favorite shows. Thank you. Thank you.

Well, I do feel, as I said to you when you got here, that I feel like you and Benny are carrying the torch forward with overcompensating and all your comedy and everything that you're doing. I feel like you're the next generation like, you know, trying to make good stuff, like out there, pushing the envelope, talking about the issues. So it's so perfect that you're here to talk about boy, girl, boy, girl.

Yes. Which we'll do in a bit. But first I want to talk about you a little bit, and I want to talk about overcompensating because I was so, so excited. And when I first had Benny on, I hadn't seen the whole season. Okay. Because my niece had told me to have him on. She was like, have Benny Drama.

I was like, I don't know who Benny Drama is. I love that. I had to do some research to, like, catch up. And I was like, wow, these kids are amazing. You know what? We had good role models with you guys because I feel like sex in the city was so formative. And I actually, I remember where I was the first time I saw sex in the city. Because I was born in the 90s. So it was a little bit mature for me as like a kid when it was airing. But then in high school I had a sleep over at my friend Julius House. It was like all the girls were all still friends to this day. And she had DVDs of like the fourth season or something. And we just dove in and I was like, holy shit. I think this show is going to change my life. And ever since then, I've, you know, yeah, I guess that must have been like 10 years ago. It's just been such like a mainstay constant for me and watching the movies over and over.

And then just like that, it's just been so fun to follow the characters. But I feel like sex in the city was such like a progress. I mean, at the time. And obviously, there are issues that we would handle differently today. Of course. But really presenting the mainstream with these things that were happening in New York. Absolutely. That maybe didn't feel so accessible at the time.

Absolutely. And I think that we thought when we started it, in 98, which is, you know, bizarre to say out loud, that it would be like a little niche, you know, like we all related to it. Obviously, we were in our 30s and, you know, this was kind of our life. I mean, it wasn't exactly our life. It was like an elevated, more intense version or whatever, but it was so exciting to do it, you know, but we never thought it would have widespread appeal. Did you live in New York at the time, really? I had been back and forth. I went to Rutgers and then I graduated and lived in, like, first I lived in,

Jersey City. Not exciting. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I know. I mean, you know how it was. Right. And then I moved to Hoboken. Any means necessary. Right. Now, you live in Williamsburg, which is very, very cool. Hoboken at the time wasn't really cool, though it later got cool. But it was kind of like the financial bros were there. I was a waitress at that restaurant. Right. I don't know if you've ever been over there when you would get off the path train. There was a restaurant right there. And they would all just come in their suits. Yeah. like horrible. I would cry a lot every day. They're still like that. Yes, it's true. I feel like they've been somewhat diluted, though. I don't know if it's my experience has changed, but like it used to seem that the entire

city was that. Yeah. Now, yes, you're right. There's much more segment. It's much more segmented. Yeah, we've got the hipsters where you are. Artists. You know, we've got the artist, which we had as well. We've got the college students. I feel like the college students, and I think this is because the last season we stayed in the village when my kids were there. I mean, the students are living the life. They are in the lap of luxury down there. Wow. Yeah. I think a lot, I think a lot how my life would be different if I went to NYU, but I went to like an information session there because that was my top choice

for a while. I ended up going to Boston College and dropping out after two years. But I went to this information session and one of the admissions people was like, we just know if someone is like a fit here and we know if they're not. Oh no. And just that vibe really turned me off and I didn't even end up applying. But you're so perfectly a fit. But you know when you're just like, and thank you for saying that. But you know when you just hear one thing where you're like, no, I actually don't think I want to age. I do totally. I do totally. That was how I felt about Rutgers because Rutgers, it was an acting program and they, they were like, no one gets in. And I was like, okay, great. That's for me. Yeah. No, I actually tried to sign up for Drama 101 at Boston College. And the teacher was like,

I think the class is too full, but you can come to the first day and meet everyone. And then I did that. And then the second class, I walked in and she goes, it's full. Oh. And then I had to walk out with my head hanging low. That's horrible. Yeah, it was, I just think there's so many ways I could have found this, but I'm glad it happened the way that it did.

I mean, it always happens the way that it should, right? But it's never easy. No. For no, for no one, right? It's been a tough. I mean, it's, yeah. But you should stand up. I mean, stand up is to me, like the hardest, hardest, hardest, hard.

artist? Like, what made you want to do that? I don't know. I think it's the type of mental illness that I have. It's really specific. And I started taking improv classes when I had like a full-time job. And I lived with my boyfriend at the time. I had a very quiet sort of contained life. And then once I took improv, I just decided I wanted to try stand-up. And then after that first time I did it, I was like, oh, God, I think I found the thing I want to do. Like the drug. It was such a high. And I totally blew up my whole life. then just decided to, like, pursue comedy. And at the beginning, you have that right level of, like, delusion where you're like, this could actually happen for me. And I just tried to apply all of the, like, type A personality that I have to this career. Right. And now I'm 10 years

in and things are going well. So it works out. Yeah. It's amazing. I think that's what I love so much about you and Benny. First of all, you're super talented. But second of all, the way that you have made it. And I don't know how you guys met, which I want to know. But it's very much inspiring and exciting to me that it has worked out for you guys. Because first of all, I think you're super committed, which everyone has to be like when people ask me when they're young, like, what should I do? And I'm like, you know, how bad do you want it? Like, that's really the key.

Because it's a lot of being your head against the wall. It really is. For years and years and years and you have no money. 100%. And it's embarrassing. And you're begging people to, like, support you. Yes. And yeah, if you don't love it, like if you don't feel like you would risk everything for

it. You really can't do it. I mean, I'm sure there are some people who've sort of stumbled into it and everything's worked out for them, but that's not more rare. I think it's very, very rare. I mean, I don't know anyone like that. I can't think right now of anyone like that. But I love you guys because you, as opposed to like our generation, like we all, I mean, Cynthia and Sarah were child actors. And Kim had been acting for a long time too. But like I went to college for it. I got a BFA. It sent me no good. Like what kind of insanity is that? You know what I'm saying? Studying it. I know, right? I mean, it was the thing that was good about where I went is that it was very, very challenging and they cut people every semester. What? So, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, 500 people auditioned to be a freshman. 50 of us got in. That makes me...

Five graduated. And you were one of the five? I was. Wow. Oh, you're not going to stop me. That's incredible. You don't know what I mean. I would...

Right? That would be a lot for me to handle mentally. Right, but I mean, you have handled 10 years of this business, so it's the same. What I'm saying is that the weird, weird hardness of it was good prep, right? because it made no sense, right? Like, you couldn't, you'd just be like, what, what? And like at one point they told me I had to lose weight. This is during college, right?

And I was like, oh, God, you know, good. It was actually good because the real world is like a nightmare. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's brutal, especially when you start, like, working your way up a little bit and you start to hear the conversations that are happening behind the scenes. I know. And you see just how brutal it is.

And I guess what's almost nice about social media is like all the meanest things anyone could ever say to you. You got a notification. Totally. It goes, hey, this person said this thing. That's so true. So now I'm like, whatever an agent or exec could say about me, I would love for them to try to come up with something new because I would just be interested. But yeah, it definitely. That's so true. That's so true. I had not thought about that. I mean, as much as I really, like I at one point when, so I'm doing the podcast, so I'm looking at more stuff and then the show ended as you know and just like that. And I was so confused by it. also like, you know, everyone was hating on us. And then we announced we were over and they were like,

oh, no. Yeah. And then I was like, well, that's really interesting. Like, what's actually happening, you know? But like the, there's like such a weird vibe out there. But I said to Sarah Jessica, I was like trying to figure it out. And she said, why are you reading those comments? Don't read the comments. And I said, I know, I know, I know. It's hard to not. Once you get in, I mean, for us, like, we've been through it, like every which way. And she's very strong about it. She doesn't. Cynthia reads everything. Yeah. Everyone finds their own way. You know, I think Cynthia feels like she learns from it, which I think is amazing. Yeah.

She's very tough. I'm not so tough. But I am really curious. Yeah. You know, I want to understand. It is that weird thing. I mean, I think people love being mean on the internet. That's like one of the reasons why we started our podcast just because we wanted to celebrate

things. And we wanted to talk about things that we loved in a genuine way. Yeah. And it's so much easier to obviously have a podcast where you're snarky about everything. and you just shit on what's being made and you insult people's work. But I think what people don't realize is like, yeah, if you are going to complain about something and say it's bad, like it might not be around anymore. So I know.

I mean, I would like people to hear Mary Beth saying that because I feel, I feel like there is this weird. I mean, I assume that it's also like the times that we're living in, right? People are so uncomfortable and we don't know what is happening at any given time, right? So it's much safer to complain about a TV show than it is to deal with the bigger issues, you know? And I get that. I get that. But if you're the people making the TV show, it's hard to be yelled at continually and told that you don't know what you're doing and that that person in wherever their house is knows your character better than you, which, you know, is interesting. No, we were trying to make a different show with the same characters.

Well, that's the thing. And that's how I approached it was like, it is the same unit. universe. But the characters obviously have changed because they're in totally different phases of their lives. Right. And I feel like, again, the show tried to tackle topics like, you know, you having an on binary child. It's like, or Charlotte having it on binary child. It's like, I know what you meant. It's, um, I just felt like, yeah, people were always going to hold it to, I mean, they hold reboots and anything like that to such a different standard. Because of the nostalgia. But I just, to me, it was like, you know, once again, same with the original. Even though I didn't necessarily,

I wouldn't make the same choices as the characters. Like, I was watching that every single week. And every single friend that I talked to, conversations would start with, did you see in just like that? Like, it was my CTV. And you're 30. I'm 34.

That's amazing. You're in the 30s. Let's put it that way. You're in the 30. See, we were, and that's part of what's weird about streaming. And I don't know how you guys feel and overcompensating.

But back in the olden days, not so much with HBO because we were our own. We were like paving the road or whatever. Yeah. We were new. But, like, you kind of knew who was watching. streaming, you're just like, I don't know. The only people you're aware of is who's complaining. Oh, for sure. And who's posting clips and, you know, chopping it up and all that stuff. Do you feel

that way about overcompensating? Yeah, I think it's just, it's tough when a lot of the streamers don't really tell you how many people or what or anything like that. Right. I mean, the numbers get so big at a certain point. I'm like, I can't even conceptualize that many people. But I know how many people are reaching out and posting about it and making fan edits and stuff like that. So I feel like, yeah, Also, for whatever reason, the criticisms always resonate, like, stick in your brain more than the people who love it. Of course. So, yeah. Well, also just feel that the people who love it, if they're your friends, of course, you're assuming that they are just, you know, biased.

And then you don't necessarily hear from the people in the world who love it because they don't post about loving it. Right. Only the angry people post, it seems. I don't know. But like with overcompensating. So, okay, first of all, how did you meet Benny? So Benny and I actually met at a stand-up show. This was in, yeah, pre-pandemic, we met.

We were booked on the same show in Bushwick. Oh, my God. At a bar called Our Wicked Lady. And it was, we always say there were more comics on the lineup than people in the audience. It was a very small show. I love it. And we just really liked each other's sets. And he stopped me on the way out.

And we sort of had this, like, moment of connection. And then we were booked on another show together like a week later. And he said he needed someone for a sketch that he was doing. And I was like, absolutely. Like, you know, that was a time when it was say yes to everything. And then also if it's someone that you think is really, really funny. You're like, well, of course. I'll be there. What time? And then it just sort of organically grew from there. And then we had this opportunity to do our first podcast together,

which was canceled. First podcast in history to ever be canceled. Yeah, I've never heard of that. It was called Obsessed. Oh. Which was for Spotify. Wait, what year? What year? This was during the pandemic. Okay. So it was 20, 20. Yeah, that was sort of the beginning of it. So then that got canceled and we decided to start our own thing called ride. Right. And so yeah, it's been, we've done a lot of different projects together and it's always so fun. And it's just nice to have someone in this industry who you genuinely feel like so happy for and so much love and like we support each other. It's so isolating. It's so beautiful. It's so beautiful and so rare. Like when I see, because we, I had been obviously by myself in my career right, previous to Sex and City. And then because

we were together and we went through the whole experience together, you had someone to check in with about the insanity and the difficulties and the whatever was going on. right? And it's something that I'm just so grateful for because I see other actresses because generally speaking, you're alone. You're very alone, especially as a female, right? Like, you know, you'll be on a set and they'll just be all guys. Oh my God. And so few shows go for that many seasons now. Right. So it's like you guys really had like a family on set, which is such a gift. Which was what was so great to get back together. Yeah. So, so great. And we did the movies in Morocco and, you know, we've had like quite the life, quite the life. It's been incredible. And obviously, I just

wanted to keep going. But, you know, whatever. Right now, we're just taking a little pause. Taking a break. And taking a little break. If whatever's next, I'll be there. Thank you. I'll be there in support. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down. Unlock Elite Gaming Tech at Lenovo.com. Dominate every match with next level speed, seamless streaming, and performance that won't quit. Push your gameplay beyond performance with Intel Core Ultra processors. For the next era of Gaming. Upgrade to smooth, high-quality streaming with Intel Wi-Fi 6E and maximize game performance with enhanced overclocking. Win the tech search. Power up at Lenovo.com.

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It's so exciting. It's so fun. It's such a crazy thing to do for work. Like, we just sit there and pitch what we think is funny. And sometimes it's not funny. You find that out when you say it out loud. I mean, yeah. And the other thing is like sometimes it's a funny idea. And then on the page, it might not be funny. All right. All right. Let's talk about it. So you and Betty meet at a stand-up. And so you're both doing stand-up. And is he already doing his YouTube things and what, been doing sketches online and some character stuff. And so, yeah, we met at this very interesting time. It was like 20, I think it was 2018 or 2019, but basically when I first started, there were so many, like, clear milestones that a comedian could hit in their career to be like, I'm on my way

to what my dreams are. My goals. And then it felt like with the pandemic and then the strikes, like so many of these, so many of these like cornerstones of comedy just sort of like went away. Yeah. And so it's been really interesting to see, like, people have to build their own career paths. And, like, Benny was such a trailblazer in that respect. And I think his being able to pivot to, like, you know, traditional legacy media is a lot of people hope who started online or even, you know, even me who I do stand. It's just like there is, there are ways. There are ways. And he's extremely talented. So it's not just like anyone could do it. No, no, of course. But I think, I think that the commitment and the persevering through the different things and also just. using your head, right? Because you guys are super smart and you're seeing opportunities to get in there. It gives me me, hope. You know, and I saw Michael Patrick and I was like, you've got to meet Benny. He's like, I've met him. He's amazing. Oh my God. That's so crazy. And so we had like a whole love fest. I know. And it's so nice because Michael Patrick was also a standup. You know, I didn't know that. Yes. He was a standup, possibly not hugely successful standup, right,

where you would know his name. But he was out there grinding, going to the clubs, doing all the things now this is when he was wearing like plaid shirts he's from pennsylvania and he had like early hair and like it was a whole different time a whole different vibe very extremely different vibe but he worked and worked and worked at it and then started writing i think like punch-up jokes for sitcoms and eventually was hired on murphy brown and won an emmy on murphy brown which was a you know trailblazing in the 80s slash 90s i guess um and then obviously we got him on the first season of our show Sex and City, thank goodness, because, you know, he's been the visionary, you know, I think Darren's vision is about putting things together at the right time.

He's one of those producers where he can put the pieces together really brilliantly like everyone else and kind of feel the zeitgeisty type thing. So he knew Candace and he optioned her book, but then he brought Michael in because Michael knew how to write jokes. Yeah. Because we didn't really... The show is so funny. I mean, it's surreal because you see these names on your TV as you're watching the shows.

and then when you meet the people in real life, it's just like, oh my God, like I've watched you for so many hours. And I feel like the comedy of the show, I mean, I'm sure there was so much criticism of just like having these sexually empowered women on TV back when the show came out. But I think also just the comedy of it all

gets overlooked sometimes where I'm like, first of all, the comedic performances are genius. And I think it is really difficult to like have these. And I think that's something we always try to do and overcompensating us have these really earned heartfelt moments, but also the comedy of it all. And sometimes it is physical. Sometimes it is someone like having to swallow a bunch of fish and then going to throw it up at a Charlie X-CX concert. Which is very funny. Which is very funny. But I think it's, you don't see as many shows that

are able to do both. Or even trying. I think it's a very hard thing to do. And that's one of the things that I did love about our show and that, you know, it's rare to, you kind of, in a weird way, have to earn that opportunity to even make that show. And then I think actually executing that show is so hard. And that's what I love about the first season of overcompensating that you start. And it's really fun. It's interesting. And you're like, you know, what's going to happen?

Is it going to come out? Is he, you know, whatever? And then by the time we get to your episode, it's so deep. Yeah. But also so funny, but so earned. And the whole time you've been wondering, like, what's up with her? Yeah. At least I was.

No, that people had a very strong reaction to Grace in the first few episodes. I think because the way it was written was like you, you do really peel back the layers on all the characters as the season progresses. So I think people just saw like, oh, she's a bitch for no reason. Right. But then it was so like expertly done that once we go home and we see more of her interacting with even like the character of her boyfriend. Yeah. You really start to understand like what is motivating her. Absolutely.

She's in some ways like the Charlotte. Yeah. Because in the beginning kind of underwritten, a very recognizable character. Right. Right. You're like, oh, I think I know her. But why is she so uptight? Yeah. You're like, why is she so unhappy? Yeah. Like, that's interesting. I, that's how I felt, right? And then I was like, I hope they're going to give her more, you know, because I didn't, I didn't, I just was watching by myself in the nighttime, right? When the kids are asleep. And then it was just such a wonderful payoff when you did finally get to understand and see. And also divert a bit from, you know, the campus. And that took a lot of of guts, I think. to do that in your first season, to be able to write that. And then you so beautifully acted it.

And it was so, you were so rooting for her, you know, and it's just so good. I can't wait to see the second season. A lot of fun things in store. Hey! That's exciting. I think it's going to be. I mean, Benny's so in the zone right now, too.

Like, everything he's sending us to look at is so funny and so beautiful. And it is so personal to him. So I think everyone in the room and on the show on set, everyone feels a lot of, like, care for the story. Yes, as well, you should. And playing the characters, one thing Benny always talks out with the casting process is, like, playing these characters with a lot of respect for who they are, not making them these, like, reductive sort of dumb college kids, which I feel like you guys also did on sex in the city.

It's like, it's so easy to put the four main characters into their little boxes, but you really feel the depth and, like, the complexities, especially as the show goes on where it's like, yeah, It just feels like a lot of TV shows and not to, I mean, I watch so much TV too. Of course. And some TV shows, they don't need to go so deep. But like the ones that do are, I go back to those ones over and over. I agree. Well, I mean, for us, we never thought we were in our boxes.

I mean, that's the thing. As an actor, you have to think bigger and deeper. Yeah. You never, I mean, everyone else is going to do whatever they're going to do. Right. And interpret it, however. Exactly. I think there's also been a lot of reflection on the show in the past few years,

people from different generations finding it. Which is amazing. And I think that's great and everyone can take what they want from it. But I get very defensive of the characters. I'm like, I just think you don't get it. Maybe you don't get it. I mean, sometimes people don't get it. I mean, certainly within just like that, people sometimes got it, sometimes didn't get it.

And I think a lot of that had to do with how old they were, right? But you're young and you got it. So you never know, right? But with the first show, and I think also, Les, as you're saying perspective, you gain perspective over time. And for us, you know, in the beginning, We were like the girl's show at HBO, you know, and we were the un-serious show. We were a big hit, not originally, but like, saved by season three, which is the episode

we're watching. We were, I think we'd won our first Golden Globe, I want to say, and we got nominated for an Emmy that year, which we never thought would happen. So we got credit for a certain kind of success, but the Sopranos was like the serious show. The serious, like, prestigious, whatever, yeah. And definitely prestigious. I mean, we were prestige because we were. on HBO, we could say whatever we wanted, right?

It's prestige to me, by the way. Well, it's prestige now. That's what I was going to say. It kind of gained, I think it gained importance. I don't know if that's the right word. It gained something in time, which has been so rewarding. Well, it also feels like, I mean, I was a kid at the time, but it was sort of around the same era as like the Spice Girls and all these female pop stars coming up. And I feel like there was this sort of, I call it Spice Girls feminism, but it's just this thing of like Girl Power.

And I do feel like maybe it coincided with the show really finding it's, you know, Most definitely. Huge audience. Sir Jessica, I don't know if she'll be mad at me for saying this, but she used to play that Spice Girls CD in the makeup trailer, like over and over and over and over. I mean, it's so good. I mean, over and over and over stuff. I mean, it was a lot. It was a lot. And then she would leave. And then Cynthia would put on, like, oh my God, Gypsy Rosley, like, like, who's that belting lady on Broadway?

like in the 40s or 50s, like the original Gypsy Rosley. Thank you, Ethel Merman. Cynthia would put on Ethel Merman. Thank you, Easton. That's so funny. I know. I know. And you just be like, oh.

And then sometimes if they both left Kim and I would put on classical because we just needed to chill. You know what I mean? A pallet cleanser. Yeah, we need a little pallet cleanser. It was a lot going on because we also had to head out on the street, right? I mean, filming in the, in the busling. In the middle.

In the middle. It's intense. It must have been crazy. It was crazy. in a good way, it added, it added a lot. I think when you go on to a sound stage, I don't know, do you guys film out in the world in Toronto? Sometimes we do.

We have some in studio stuff and then some that's like on location, as they say. Good. That's good. Yes, location. But I would say Sex and the City for Benny and I, they're real people to us. Like, we talk about it as if we know these people. We have a joke on our podcast that Alexander Petrovsky died of COVID because he refused to wear a mask. Don't you think he would? Oh, my God. We wrote a fake obituary for him.

Sure. I mean, I wouldn't even say that out loud because I do not want Beresnikov to die, right? And, like, for me, I can't separate them. I get it. I get it. See, like, for me, Petrovsky, and I have only re-seen the episode where we meet him. I can't remember why I watched that one. God, that whole stretch is, like, the way they reveal that he is, like, kind of a nightmare.

I don't even remember. It's gut-wrenching. I don't even remember. When she, when he can't. on meeting you guys and then you go there to meet him at a studio and he's so fucking cranky. Oh, I don't remember this. They show up and he's like working on his light installation or whatever and you know, Samantha's wearing an afro in the scene because she has cancer at the time. Oh my God! It's a, I mean that whole stretch is like it's so and

that was when the show really felt more like a movie. Like the last season because it was like I think they did two half seasons. It just felt. We really did one season and then they cut it up because they didn't want to pay us more. That's how it works. Go ahead. That's awesome. Yes. And I love that. But it really was just like, it's so just, it was stunning. And I think so many women experienced that.

I've just like, there's this guy that is when you're alone together, it feels like just like magic. Of course. But then when you bring in your own life, you just see how wrong it is. Oh, I can't wait. It's really, I mean. That's very interesting, very Beth. Yeah. I, that part, I have like really clear memories of some things.

Some things I have no memory. What's so. Because we never slept. We basically filmed all night long every night almost, right, until the sun came up. So, like, you're just not in your right mind. And so some things are really like, for instance, the episode we're going to watch boy girl, boy girl, because Alanis Morissette was on, I was very excited. And also Sarah Jessica was very nervous about the kiss. So I went down there. I was not working, but I went down there to be like moral support. But then, because Alanis was there and we were trying to like keep it chill, not overreact. you know, what not. I don't know how we did it, honestly, right? Because also, like, she's really young. Like, she must have been at the height of, like, the whole thing. I can't even, I don't even know how she ended up on her show. I need to find out. I'm sure it was because it was a massive hit. I guess, but I mean, like, did we know someone who knew her? Like,

how did it happen? It's such a funny cameo because it's, like, very small. It's so small. But it's so, you're like, oh my God, that's Alanis Morissette. I mean, and like, like, baby Alanis Morissette with the little brand, like, I love her so much. I can't even, I can't. Anyway, I went down there, But then there were so many people in that party scene that it was like kind of like overwhelming and I didn't want to add to it. So I hung back. But Sarah Jessica was also really nervous because this is not something that she would be doing. And it was Alanis. It was a lot going on.

So I went down there. Why did I bring this up? I don't know. You were up all night. I was up all night as always. But also like we were in the bubble. That's kind of what I was thinking of. Like you didn't really have other.

I don't feel like I was tethered to normal life in any way during the day. that time. Like in the beginning, it was on and off, right? Like when you're filming, you're in the bubble. But once we really got going, you were just in the bubble all the time. Yeah. And you, and you guys did so many episodes for most of the seasons. And so, yeah, I would imagine some things you're like, I just don't remember that. I don't, some things I don't remember. But it's super vivid. Yeah. And also rewatching is so fascinating because, of course, when you're in it, you remember it, you remember what was happening on the set and whether you like the actor or you didn't or whatever it was, right? And then now when you look back on it, like when I watch

myself in this episode with Donovan Leach trying to be the man in the photograph, it's just fascinating and so different than how I remembered it. It's bizarre. I mean, Charlotte is full of surprises. She is. And I think that, I mean, I really do feel like depending on the day, I'm one of the four, it just depends on the day. Really? Wait. So all four are incorporated I think so. I love it. I really think so. Because I'm very type A. One thing that I, I think for Charlotte, what I really identify with is she's type A and she's always willing to put her heart on the line. Yeah. As many times as she is like, you know, not even rejected, but as many times as things don't work out, when that next thing presents itself, she's ready to really like throw herself into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really

identify with that. You do. Also, there was this one moment where I think you say like, I've been dating men for 10 years, where is he? 15 years. Where is he? And I think about that line read all the time. Thank you. And I also think like Charlotte is certainly, you know, there are moments of judgment, but I also think it's because she is maybe has a less, she just hasn't met as many people. And then when she meets, I think she is very open-minded and I'm also judgmental and open-minded at the same time. Well, that's great. Because I'm a Gemini, so I can be both. Ooh. And then, you know, from Samantha's perspective, like the sexual empowerment, I think is really important and just showing a woman that her age is not limiting her and how she dresses or what

choices she's making. Then Carrie, of course, being a little selfish at times and being a writer, that's how I feel I am. And then Miranda being work obsessed and thinking she can do her job just as good as the man, if not better. Of course. So, I mean, think about having those characters on TV for me as a high school student. I'm like, I can be anything. That was really what it felt like. I love it. I'm sure there's critiques of it where I'm like, sure, whatever. But to me, I don't see that. I don't see how it limited anyone's worldview, I think, if anything. I mean, of course, when I look at it and just like that, obviously it's wonderful that there's a more diverse cast and we're seeing people who have very different experiences. But for me, at the time, it was, it felt like a lot of different

experiences. And I think it was for television at the time, a much broader view of what it meant to be a woman, what it meant to be a woman in the world and your choices and you know, I'm thankful for that. I mean, it was nice to get to do even a broader view and and just like that. And then you and I were talking briefly before we started, we said we would wait until we got here. You feel that the ending of just like that, that Carrie should find the love. You want Carrie to find the guy. Because I'm a hopeless romantic. And also, I think having a life full of beautiful friendships, that's what I have right now in the family that I love. But of course, I still want to find a partner.

And I just, you had mentioned there was criticism when the first series ended about you all being paired off. And people were big mad, Marybeth. I, big mad. Those people are the same people that when I talk about wanting a partner, they say to me like, you don't need one. I'm like, but I want one. Well, those are two very different things. Yeah. And also, why shouldn't you want that?

We've watched these characters pursue romantic love and their friendships flourish at the same time. Right. But I still want to see them achieve what they want. Right. I think that might be one of the interesting. points. And I'm not sure because I don't really have closure on it, as I was saying. And I haven't even watched the last two because I'm just in denial, right? And I hope someday that we will come back and do something. But I do feel for Carrie, if you look at Carrie, because obviously this whole

new thing about her being selfish, this was not something that we thought about at the time or would have said at the time. She's the main, also make, she's the main character. Absolutely. I think the thing that we thought of at the time was that we wanted her to be complex. And that was kind of unheard of in a woman main character, right? Like as a woman main character, you're supposed to be, you know, flirty and sweet and the rom-coms of the 90s that you brought up. Exactly. Make good choices. Or if you make a bad choice, then regret it and rethink it and change it. Whereas we were just ongoing storytelling in a really, you know, free way. Right. Right. And HBO almost said nothing. And it feels like real people because they're making mistakes. Yes. And that's what we wanted. And it didn't make any

sense to us, at least to me, like when the whole narcissist carried things, started, which I feel like was during COVID or at least when I saw it. People had way too much time. You know, y'all don't need to be thinking about sex in the city that much. Let's just enjoy the show. Hardcore. Hardcore. How about you just watching and have fun? In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down. Unlock elite gaming tech at Lenovo.com.

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podcasts I find it all fascinating the way the conversation changes over time, right? And so there was this time of like, we don't like Carrie. And I was like, well, that's bizarre and interesting. I mean, we need Carrie to go through all this to have a show. Exactly. Yeah. And movies and then another show.

But I do know what you're saying in terms of, like, people, I'm single, you know, and people are always very like, you know, please explain yourself, which is, you know, really unfair and hard. Like, is it rocket science? I want to have fun with someone. Yeah, no, but that's not where I am at this point, right? So I think that's what confuses people. Yeah.

If I had said that when I was 30, I don't feel like people would have, I don't know what people would have said. Yeah. Because at that point, we were trying to avoid these conversations. Yeah. I mean, you'd be surprised. The reactions, people look at me like, I have, you know, six heads. I'm just like, but you're married.

The people I'm, I'm like, the person I'm talking to. you do. So you get it. Like, yeah, I'm not going to, you know, throw away my whole life in pursuit of romantic love. But obviously, that's what I want. Like, as a one part of my life. So people look at you, like, you're crazy because you want something or because you want to have fun. Because I want to, at this point where I'm at is like, I would just love someone to, now I get invited to cool, fun things. Right. And I would love someone to bring that wants to make out with me at the end of the night. Does that sound crazy to anyone else? I'm like, I feel like that's kind of normal. It is definitely normal. It is definitely normal. This is what I think is interesting from my perspective, like the thing that went through my head, because I've definitely gone through many phases as the many times, you know, 30 years I've been doing this.

I've had times where I had somebody who would come with me. And I just want to say it can get complicated. I know. Well, and it wouldn't, yeah. It doesn't always go so smoothly. I know. It's like someone that is like a socially additive, like that will have a good time. I know.

It's not so easy. What I'm looking for is very specific. I think it exists, but yeah, ideally, too, you're laying the foundation for something that's more long term. But I did back-to-back long-distance relationships for five and a half years. Oh, God. So I'm really, I'm okay with, you know, feeling a lot of control over my life right now and not having to fly internationally like every three weeks. Right. But I think, yeah, it's, of course I want that. And that was a lot of fun. And in my 20s, I had the energy for it now. Yeah, yeah. I don't so much. But interesting. I want to call out some scenes from Sex and the City,

I think about at least once per day. I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you. Okay, explain this. Why are you and Benny so fascinated with it? We love prose. And it's just good writing. It is good writing. I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you.

It's like, it's like just you don't need anything else. You don't need any fluff. It's just like, it's this woman that just so badly wants to be seen. So that's like, also Kyle McLaughlin, so fabulous. in our show, in your show, so great. Such an iconic character. And he's so funny and so, like, just nice. He's just like a nice man. And so we loved having him on the show. Then there's a moment where after Carrie is leaving Big's apartment and Natasha Falls and the hospital and she sees Big and she says, we are over. We need a new word for over. Yeah, that's good. That's huge. Then there's also when

Carrie talks about the pear-shaped diamond. That's really good. That Aiden tried to give her. And Samantha's like, That he doesn't get her. Yeah. Yeah. It's just such a good reaction. Yeah. I mean, there's a million.

Also, like, you broke my heart, Carrie, that Aiden says. Oh, that's really good. It's closer to my heart this way when she wears the ring. There's just so many moments that are like burned in my brain. Those are good ones. I just, yeah, I think it's, I mean, we could do a whole other episode about the clothes. And I will say being single again. I'm, I watched the show right after my breakup.

And I've been wearing my heels out. I'm wearing right now. Because I have all these shoes and I'm just like you, the show really inspires me to just like wear the clothes that are hanging in your closet that you were so excited to buy. But that wearing feels like more of like it's going to be like an element of the evening. Right. I'm just like, I'll be uncomfortable. Do it. For the outfit. Oh, sir, Jessica would really love you. Yes. I feel it. All the characters too. I mean, all the different styles that that you guys wear, it's so true to the characters. But my God, you look good. Thank you so much. I I mean, every outfit is flattering.

Oh, thank you. They weren't hard, man. I mean, I mean, it was such a process. And Pat, very genius level. And Molly, who was with us from the beginning, who did it and just like that. I mean, we have such an incredible time. And it is, it's a rare, rare situation that you get to have. Like, first of all, just total freedom.

And couture. And couture. Yes, for sure. And, you know, back in the day, it was a hard. core couture, where, like, we felt the pressure to have the newness. And I remember there was a whole drama about Sir Jessica wanted, I can't remember who it was, something. And it was on the runway.

And so we had to send an assistant to Rome or parents who stood waiting for it to come off the runway, took it, got on a plane, flew back. I mean, some insanity. That's like historic, though. That's amazing. I know, but fully insane also. Because it's artistry, like, at every level, which I think is beautiful. Yes, yes. And that's the thing that people would ask me about with the show, the first show, especially. And true with the second show in it, slightly different way. But the first show, because there was nothing else like it, right? And like in the beginning, when we had Molly come on and talk about the costumes in the beginning, she said we had $10,000 for the whole first season. Isn't that nuts?

That seems, that just seems like fiction. No, it's true. That's true. Well, she did a great job. They did a great job with what they happened. Played Century 21 down at the tip of Manhattan. I've been there. Yes. Remember? They lived there. People used to think Molly worked there.

And they would ask her like wear the belts. Yeah. She probably knew. She did. And I remember going there with them. And like, you know Sarah's little tiny green skirt with the ruffle in the back? Yes. I think of Stella McCartney.

Century 21. Wow. Yeah. But it took a while for us to build up our relationship with the designers to get things lent to us. Like we, first of all, no one knew what we were doing. Second of all, it took a while. We had to be photographed a certain amount of time. And then Sir Jessica had her good relationships.

And she was kind of a good example of like how to make a relationship with designers. You had to go to the shows back in the day. Yeah. Like kind of like pay homage and work on that relationship and return everything immediately in pristine condition. I have respect for the garments. Right? Respect, absolutely. And also they needed them.

They needed those samples. Yeah. But also there was a lot of pressure about that. You know what I mean? But when I look back on it, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I just felt the pressure at the time. You know what I'm saying? Like, was I thin enough.

That was really my major conversation in my head. You know, not fun, but that was the truth. And then also, like, were we, you know, was Charlotte, like, I was always really concerned about the character. You know what I'm trying to say. Of course. Which, when I look back on, I'm like, yeah, it was good. You guys, this is so much fun that we are going to have to have a part two.

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