Are You A Charlotte? - Hot Diggity Dog with Benito Skinner (S2 E9 "Old Dogs, New Dicks")

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

There’s no overcompensating when we say how thrilled we are to have Benito Skinner join Kristin to discuss "Old Dogs, New Dicks." Benito immediately opens up about Trey aka Kyle MacLachlan as his dad in his new show. Plus, why Charlotte's line, “I’m your wife, I’m sexual, and I love you,” became Benito’s catchphrase.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? This has been something I have been working on for a while, you guys, back when I was planning the podcast and I had it started, I asked my niece, who had obviously much younger, who should I have on? And her words were, Benny Drama. Oh, my God. Which is how she knows you. Okay, thank you. What's her name? Her name is Zoe. Thank you, Zoe. I owe my career to you. Okay. It took some time, but I've got Benito Skinner. He's been very, very busy, you guys. Kind of like, randomly. You picked the one time I was busy usually, I'm not. I usually don't do anything. I mean, I usually don't do anything.

I mean, it was a very high level. Well, I did, um, Shackamous, which you had been to. Oh, yes. Do you not love Simone? Love him so much, and I thought you were going to be there. I wish I was there. So it's a little bit bamboozled. Oh, I'm so sorry. I would have loved to be there. I looked around Versailles and I go, where's my girl?

I would have loved to be in Versailles with you, Benny. Next time holding hands. Oh, my God. Yes, babe, yes. I just have to talk Simone into not putting me in butter yellow because it's like my worst color ever. Oh, I don't agree. I think you look so good in butter yellow. Oh, my God.

But I mean, you can't say no to that man. Well, of course not. I mean, my God. Right? No. Whatever you want, Daddy. I mean, right? That's what I said.

It is my least liked color in the world. See, I don't see that for you. Mine is like a mustardy color. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, you're right. That might top it. That might top it. But they're kind of equal with me, but whatever.

I did it. I did it for him. It's not horrible. I just did a job where that was their inspiration picture, which was kind of funny. And you went perfect. When I met the Jacques-Muss people, the inspiration picture that they had for me to do the opening of the invitation to go to the show was a Charlotte moment when I have a sweater tied over my shoulder in true, perfect form. Yeah.

And they were like, can you look like this? And I was like, well, that was 25 years ago. Like, a version. Yeah, I'm sure you looked literally perfect. Also, this whole time is going to be me acting like I don't know exactly the thing you're talking about, you know, just to be like, of course, you know, like my peer. Thank God. Thank God you know everything because sometimes, as I was saying, and I do feel, and I don't know

in what order to talk to you about these things, but like to me, you are doing all the things right now that are super fascinating in terms of our industry, where our industry is going. You are on the forefront, Benny. I'll take it. It's amazing. Okay. So I need advice from you. I don't think you do. Yes, I do. Yes, let's do this. I really do. So, okay, let me get this straight because I have now been on a crash course. Okay, first of all, let me just back up. So my niece says to me, Benny Drama. So I'm like, who is this person? I have to research. So I start looking online, I see you obviously, highly entertaining and interesting. I don't even know that you're in a show that you created at this point with Kyle McLaughlin playing your father. I mean,

there's so many connections. Absolutely. I mean, finally, I got Trey. That was what I think. I need Trey. I go, Trey's my dad. This is kind of the alternate universe. This is who he ends up with. It's true. And also, he is more, it's like a more almost Kyle-like wackiness. Like it's a It's a really good casting. Yeah, thank you so much. He's my favorite person. He's adorable. He's just perfect.

We had so much fun. I was just with him recently. For the A24 podcast, which I watched. Oh my God, thank you. Wait, okay. A journalist? Let's go. I mean, why not?

It's fascinating. I get so nervous because everyone's like, oh yeah, you can do this podcast. But even this, I'm like, you're my heroes. Like, I grew up with your work. Like, I'm just so this is so. And for the first 30 minutes, it's just me being like, I can't believe it's you.

And my brain just being like, hearing your voice. Yeah. People say that to you a lot where it's like they hear your voice. Yes. It's just like immediately I'm safe. Oh, I love it.

That is so good. That is nice. I mean, I'm going through such a thing like to go back and watch your work from so long ago. Yeah. You know, it is like therapeutic in so many ways. Oh. But it's also kind of trippy in a weird way.

It brings it home to you how long you have been actually doing this. I'm sure. And the kind of also like thinking. of the stories of the days. And I think that's even like, you know, I've done one season of a show. And I watched it back and it's just funny being like, oh, I know what I felt like that day.

Or I'm like, ooh, I was puffy that day. 100% had sushi the night before. Yes, exactly. Oh, the sushi's the worst. I'm just, I'm so, and I love it. I love it too. And you want to eat it every day, but it's not really the best. There's a couple scenes where I go, huh, could use some ice.

I think you look amazing. So do you. All the time. Are you kidding. All the time. Now, okay. I just wouldn't backtrack in Bending World. So stand up or YouTube or both at the same time.

It was the same time. But actually, I think it was Instagram first. Wow. Yeah, which was kind of, I was still in the closet in college. Right. And I, like your show. That's what his show is about. If anyone hasn't seen it, it's on Amazon TV, Prime.

It's awesome. It's really, really clever. Thank you. A version of this story that we have not seen. So I really appreciate that. Thank you so much. I can't wait to, if we get to do season two, I can't wait to make you come.

I will be there, baby. You tell me what to do. I feel like you're like. Linda, I don't know. You're so, I need you. Okay. Yeah, I feel like you and Connie sisters. Oh my God.

Yeah, I love Connie so much. She is, I got so lucky. My parents were fantastic. Yeah, I started on Instagram with this thing called Dobsmash. They were like lip sync videos. Okay. And I loved doing that. Do you just have like creative energy that had nowhere to go?

Oh my God, so much. Okay. I mean, even in this, I'm sure the comments would be like so ADD. I mean, I just like, I go. everywhere. Me as well. Thank God. Come with me. Yes, let's go. Let's go in the stream. But yeah, I just, I think it had been so suppressed, like a performative version of me that maybe only came out when I had like two drinks and was just with a girl and we were like laughing and I could kind of let it go. But I did lip sync videos because I didn't want anyone to hear my voice because I was like the

internet will, no, I'm gay. Even though I was going really low, I was like bare tone. But I was, I, so I was like, okay, I'll do this. And then people started commenting on them and sharing them. Right. And then I came out. And then I was like, okay, maybe I'll do a sketch that's like, I speak. And I think it's me as a New Yorker describing how to get somewhere. And so it was like me saying like from the L to the F to the D.

You know, and I watch it back and it's shocking how deep I still was making my voice. Like it almost sounds like there's like a modulator on it. Yeah. It's like a little, it's mortifying. But I had to rewatch all. those things to get back into. You say it's mortifying, but I think it's important to say it is not easy in this world to come out, to be different in any way.

And sometimes it seems like we've made all these incredible strides forward, yet we continue to go back. And even like my daughter's turning 14 and, you know, her friends, they're so worried, you know, about how they look and all the things. Like it's still so true. And so I think it's just, it kind of breaks my heart because it's, here I have been living in this world, you know, the Sex and City world, obviously, it's a very gay world in a wonderful way, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I like that world. And you kind of feel the power

of it at times. But then sometimes when you go back out of that bubble, it's shocking. It's, I'm so, it's so nice to hear you say that because I think also, you know, there is this thing that I had kind of when we were putting out the show. Some people being like, well, do people care about coming out anymore? Like, is that a thing? And my thing is I'm like, yes, I think maybe we're in New York. York and L.A. bubbles. You don't know what people are saying in locker rooms in Idaho still. Yeah. I can't imagine that with the administration we have that they're saying that nice of things. And really what I think, you know, even I'm sorry to say this to someone who has a 14 year old girl, but I feel like there is that it's just one comment that someone says that just sticks

with you. And that's literally why I made the show. I'm like, it's just this group of kids in college that all got told this one thing about themselves. And it can be something as big as like, oh my God, I'm gay. No one can find out. Or just like, my hair is for you. or I'm not thin enough or, you know, it's like, and then we have to create these full worlds around ourselves to make people love us. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, as you're getting older and you're going through all of the things that you go through, you realize that it doesn't matter if they love you, you find your people. And that's really all that matters. Exactly. But I will say this,

and this is one of the things that I really respect about you, is that you've really done a lot of this publicly, like online and YouTube. And that's really. I mean, that's not easy because there are so many people who are so mad and critical. And their way, this is the way I'm thinking of it currently, their way to express themselves and get that out is towards other people online. Yeah. So for you, I worry, like, you seem to be handling it great. But like, yeah, sometimes.

I mean, how do you deal? I'm sure you feel that too. I mean, oh, my God, you're an actress who's done this for, you know, 20 plus years. But we didn't have it. first of all the whole time. That is true. That's kind of nice. You just read it in like one review maybe. Exactly. And you'd be like, oh, and then you just stop reading reviews, which you could do before everything was on that phone. That's the problem too, because you want to see the good stuff. I want to know the scenes people loved or things that were making them

laugh. Right. And then, oh, God, yeah, I got one recently that was so vile. I'm just like, God, I can't believe you even put that in writing. My thing that I'm trying to figure out how this would work, but I think if you're on the internet, it should have to be your full name. I mean, listen, it would make a difference. It should have to be your full name and it has to be like your driver's license or something. You know, I'm like, I just, I agree. I do think there's a level of covering that enables people to be their most angry and mean selves. And I get why people are angry right now.

I mean, that makes sense to me. And I think that if, you know, if I'm the punching bag, fine, just don't do it to my girls in my show. I'm like, that's where I'm like, don't you dare do it to anyone else in the show. That's where I get like, just so. No, I'm like, how dare, like, you know. But, you know, I feel like I learned this thing early, and I forget where I, I think I just saw it on like a, you know, I'm sure like Wiki How told me how to do this. But it was like, if you see a mean comment, go and like respond to a nice one. And then it's like you're having the connection with someone who's like gone out of their way to say something nice.

That's really good. It's also not something that's common. That's true. Because the nice people don't say that much. No, they're just like love it, heart. Right. And the other thing gets amplified. And that's such a confusing thing.

Oh, it's so confusing. And you're like, oh, my God. Someone told me I had dry lips one time. They said dry butthole lips. Sorry. That's where we're at. And I was like, so now every day, I mean, I was just in the bathroom. I'm like, can't have them.

You know, I'm like, I just. It consumed me. It can really lodge. Oh, it's there forever now. No, it's true. It's true. I mean, I don't know that I have that because I have had so many negative comments for, you know, probably the entirety of my career.

Jesus. But I think the things for me that lodged in there where I had to create a thing around it, like you were saying with, you know, trying to be straight, overcompensating to cover the truth. For so long, you do create like a whole persona or whatever. I think mine was relating to the thinness issue, which is, you know, it's hysterical to say, I can realize that now, right? But like, there were times when Sergecisco would be like, you have body dysmorphia. I'd be like, I don't think I do because the world is literally telling me daily that I am.

I am per-shaped. Of course. You know what I'm trying to say, like, so much, so much. To the point where, like, you can't think straight, do you know what I mean? No. But then you also, you know, you have disordered eating. You're starving yourself. I remember fainting in a parking lot one time because I was on some crazy diet.

You know what I mean? Yeah. And then you're trying to work and remember your line. All the craziness, right? And then for many years, someone asked me the other day, like, you know, what do people say to you when they see you? You know, it's morphed over time, which is the best, right? Yeah.

There was a good number of years. when we were on like the old school linear televisions, right? Like HBO proper. And when people would see me on the street here or in New York, they would say, oh, but you're not fat. I know. And I know they didn't mean anything bad. They mean it as a compliment, right?

But it's because I'm standing in a sorry, Jessica. Right. I get that too. Or you're prettier in person. Yeah. And I'm just like, well, okay. I always get, you're tall. Yeah.

And I'm like, what are we projecting? Yeah. I'm like, okay. I mean, like, I'd be fine. I'm like, okay, would that be bad if I was 5-8? No, this is because I think now, because now the culture is like weirdly knows so much about what we do, right? So they know that all these other actors that they used to think were tall are actually not tall. I'm not going to name them right now.

Well, of course. That's for later. Well, offline. Yeah, that's season too. Totally. Totally. But it's, so there's like a weird cynicism about our industry and about us that then permeates the thinking and the comments. Oh, that is such a.

that is kind of explains everything almost of like I because even I do this podcast with Mary Beth Brown who's in the show oh my god you listening to our brain rot on the way here have you heard us like our favorite scene in Sex and the City is Charlotte saying I know it's so embarrassing okay it's my favorite okay we'll save it for later but I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you period I literally that's the clip if you knew how I was dying when I had to film that we you don't understand but it's like it's so real It's so the inspiration for overcompensating. You know, it's like just being so vulnerable with someone

and then they're like looking at a titty mag. It's like, what is this life? I cannot believe that you shot that show with no intimacy coordinator. None. That really is so, I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable. I know, I know, I know. I'm just like that is, it's hell on earth. But we have one now.

It wasn't, but it wasn't hell on earth. Okay, okay, that's good. It wasn't. It definitely wasn't. And I did get in some terrible trouble for saying something ingest on my own podcast that I will not repeat. I know my god right like oh I thought that because you were telling the whole story that you'd be safe but no it's just the little clip yeah or I'm finding that yeah I'm learning that every day I'm like do we need to post full video podcast right the more the more people know you the more click baity you will become absolutely and I'm like oh no that's not that's not what

I said it right or I'm now I'm truly I'm not that serious about really that many things you know I do. I just kind of said that flippantly. Yeah, exactly. It seems like I'm so angry. Like a fact. Yeah. And I'm like, oh no, I was just kind of like having fun and I think my back hurt. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Well, the thing that I said was in relationship to the intimacy coordinators, we were talking to Jenny Bix, who one of our early writers, first woman writer, and I was joking about Michael Patrick pushing me to do something that I was nervous about. And I was saying it turned out fine. But it's one of those things that in your mind you build up like,

I can't do it, I can't do it. I don't know. I'm scared. blah, blah, blah. And because we didn't have, the thing that I like about intimacy coordinators, because we do have them on and just like that. Great, yeah. But it's really hard because it's most of us who are together for all these many 30 years. Yeah. It's a weird change to have another person involved. Oh, yeah. And it's very private, which is not, I think that's what I was so fortunate because I'm the creator in the show. And I'm like, I loved that I could have like private conversations

and that all actors could have a private conversation. I think that's the best part. I think everyone thinks it's like in front of everyone that the intimacy coordinator is kind of there on set, like watching you and, you know, it's kind of a free-for-all. I've had one that was that way. Okay, well, that was weird. So there's a bad one. Right. So that's not one that should be working.

But I found like so much peace in it of like, I'm so nervous about this thing and I'm the creator and I don't want anyone to think I'm nervous. I wrote it. Right. I'm like, what, you know, it'd be the thing where one of the girls would be like, you're nervous. Right. Right. I'm going to be triple nervous as you. Yeah, yeah, totally.

You have to definitely keep it together, yeah. And because I think even with sex in the city, too, there is something about it being at times sex for comedy. Yes. Which as an actor is so, it's so uncomfortable because you're like, no, I swear I'm good at this. You know, it's like everyone's laughing at me make out with this person, but like I'm actually like not a loser.

No, of course. And also you know that it's for the comedy, but as a woman I would say the thing that was great, especially back then, was that there wasn't really sex for comedy. like in the film or the TV, right? So it freed you in a certain way that you didn't have to be all like, you know, fake seductress all the time.

Okay, you know, no, that makes sense. Which is, like, if you were auditioning for some big film, you knew there'd be some scene when you were going to have to stop on. You know what I'm saying? There's so much of fake seductress and overcombatating insects in the city. That's the Venn diagram.

That is true. Yeah, they're kind of like, isn't this hot? And they're like, no, not really. You're being weird. But that's the difference, right? is that like it's called out rather than like the movie version and the way that I like to talk about it

that I don't feel like I've really perfected it but when we started the show we as a group were unsure of what we were doing with the sexuality like was it for the male gays which is what everything else had been there had not been something made

for the female gays of watching and performing and talking about something for them right? So like there were there's a scene in the first season I think it was the first season where I'm trying to get this guy aroused. And the director, I believe, at the time,

not sure, think it was the director and or the DP, thought that I was going to be doing this hand motion on top of the sheets. Oh. And I was like, yeah, no, what? Yeah. Like, what? That's really weird.

Like, no. It's bizarre. Like, it's also, you know, you read something you have it in your mind, right? Of course. So in my mind, it was under the sheets. Yeah. It should be, like, on the television.

What the heck? You bring truth to it. It's like, this is, yeah. Right. And like, then it would, you could use the comedy more to just be like, on my face. You can tell it's not working because you're obviously not going to show that it's not working. No, yeah. What the heck, right?

But this is the beginning and it was also like 2 a.m. And Darren Starr wasn't there. Michael Patrick wasn't there. It was like me and the director, nobody was there. None of my girlfriends were there, right? Yeah. So I had to go lock myself in my room because there was no intimacy coordinator, right? There was no one to help me.

I'd go lock myself in my room, call my manager in L.A. And be like, what do I do? Yeah. You want me to do a hand job on top of the sheets, basically. And they're just like, this career I chose. Right. Like, is this a horrible, horrible mistake? No.

Which I also had to call my manager about the outfit when I come out and I say, I'm your wife and I'm sexual because that thing was see-through, right? Yeah, yeah. And I think there was a conversation of should I wear underwear or not. Yeah. And I think that came possibly from Pat Field because Pat Field is living out there on the edge at all times. Of course. An icon living.

Yeah. 100% an icon living. every second of the day. Yeah. And I think for her, you know, she wanted Charlotte to be really out there. Yeah, this is the moment. It's like I'm, it's kind of her like last like, like, this is it. Come on.

Like this is my, yeah. Like, sadly he failed. Yeah. Swan song. Yes. Yeah. But I did not think that I should do that. You know what I'm saying?

Well, of course. Yeah. Yeah. But that's, yeah, that's the conversation. It's like almost having those conversations, like the thoughts of like having people to talk to that about, you know, it's like that's almost sometimes. sometimes all you need. Absolutely, and that's what a good intimacy coordinator is doing.

Like, what is your concern? You're in private. What is your concern? You know, what do you want me to watch for? What are you uncomfortable about? And, like, my thing that I always say, and I mean, usually it's Evan, right? For me, and obviously I know him really well. But, you know, I did something else right before COVID, which was, I think, my first time

with an intimacy coordinator, and that was the questionable one. She had come from a dance background, so her idea was to count us down. like a dance number. Oh, okay. I'm like, what is happening? She was like, kiss, two, three, four, roll, two. Oh, my God. Oh, good.

I'm glad we're dancing with the star. Right? I know. I know. I know. I'd be so red. I was with another, we were. We were.

Yeah, I can't do that. But I was with another really veteran actor. So thank God, right? But the thing that I had done, which was helpful in private, she said, what would you like, you know, down here? would you like, you know, little patch and all the different choices. And I said, well, what does he want?

Because, you know, you want to be on the same page. Yeah, of course. Right? You don't want to be wearing less. No, it's all good. No, it's all good. He's going raw dog out. But they're like, sorry.

No, but you know what? It's like. Wait, I'm your son and I'm sexual. And I love you. What? I'm sorry. But I'm also Charlotte. Totally.

And I'm telling you, I'm always with Charlottes. I surround myself with Charlott. You do? And I think I'm Charlotte Rising. We'll talk about it. Okay, I want to hear. I want to hear. Anyway, we're way off, but it's so much fun.

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I don't know where to go back to. Gosh, it's good. Oh, yeah, when, um, what his, what his version was. Yeah, no, oh, his version was cool. We can go off him now because he's awesome and I don't want to make it seem like I'm complaining. It's going to be some fun kind of fucking clickmate. I can tell right now. Or totally.

This is us just, I was talking about sexual intermassy. They're like, interesting. Mine, the first time they, those, the tape. Yeah. I didn't know that there was, this is terrible. Let's hear it. I didn't know that there was like a pad also or like a sock essentially. I was just like, yes.

And so I was like, oh, what it. And the whole thing was sticky. So it just ripped all the hair off under my burry bottom. And I was like, oh, my God. And I'm like crying in my trailer. And I'm like, oh, my God. I just, I was not. So then after that, I, you know, more conversations with costume and the music coordinator.

Yes. Everyone needs to be involved. Yes. Definitely, definitely, definitely. I mean, I believe that my very seasoned co-star, who I was with, who I love very much, there was a towel. Okay. So there was like a, everyone was covered privately, right? And then there was a towel in between, kind of like a traditional consumer Jewish situation.

Okay, I grew up with Mormons. I can figure that out. Okay, okay, right, right? Yeah. Oh, my God, even more interesting. Yeah. But, I mean, it was more just for, you know, protection. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, of course. It was cool. No matter what, it's weird and strange. Yeah, it's just so strange. And it does get brought up so much. Like, during press, I really was just like, oh, so many people ask about this. And it is something. I think people are very curious, and I get it.

I get it, especially if you are in something like your show or our show, where there is sex. But let's get back to the business for a second. And then we're going to talk about the show. Okay. So this is what I'm super fascinated. So you started just doing stuff on the Instagram with a different voice because you didn't want anyone to know you were gay from your voice, which is like so sad, but adorable. Yeah.

And then at a certain point, you come out and you decide, okay, I can use my voice. And then you're, you are more free and you start doing more skits and you put them on YouTube. Yeah. It was so, it was kind of like I, the floodgates were open. Once I was out and I met my boyfriend Terry and it was like, you know, he said your Instagram's private. Like you should make it public. Right. Because I told him randomly I'd met him.

And I had never really said this out. out loud but he's like what do you what do you really want to be like i'm looking at your instagram you keep making these sketches and i was like i just like really want to be an actor but i'm from idaho so that wasn't oh which is crazy yeah so it's just like that wasn't on the menu got it and then i went to school at georgetown which also you know not a lot of actor no not known yeah and feels very like you know you would go more into like government or journalism of course you know and so i was like okay um i'm just gonna not say it there either and then For some reason, in a park in Williamsburg one day to him, I was like, I want to be an actor so bad.

And he's like, I don't know anyone in that industry. And he's like, I don't know anyone who's gone into it. He's like, you don't know anyone is, I think maybe the internet is probably the only way. And I thought too, I was like, yeah, that's kind of my thought that like maybe I'll like, do you just go viral and then you get an agent and then you're in a movie? You know, I'm like, I don't know how this works. So you just did it. So I was just like, yeah, I would go to work in the morning. I was editing videos for a startup

and then they paid for Premiere Pro on this computer. So I was like, great, I have an editing software now. So I would go and then after work, I would go and buy a coffee and make my videos for the rest of the night until like 1 a.m. And then what happened?

And then it was like, I did that probably for like four or five months. And then I made this queer eye parody video. And that one kind of, I finally saw like, oh, like a lot of comedians that I loved were sharing it and actors and the cast responded, which was like the first time I'd had that kind of connection.

And they were all so sweet. And really, I think, you know, I've always come to comedy. And I hope that people feel this way of anyone I've done an impression of that I, like, I never do something that I don't enjoy. Like, I love, if I love someone's music, I'll do an impression of them. It's never really coming from like, I'm not pointing at you. Yeah, I'm just kind of like, this is an internet version of you.

Sure. And, like, you know, my caricature of this persona. parodied so many times and it is always hysterical which is so crazy I always wanted to do one I don't know what because I you should totally do it because like I I think for voices I could probably do you and Samantha the easiest totally but I yeah Sarah Jessica's hard I don't know and then and she's a little hard yeah and then you'll be able to do okay then maybe yeah I'm like definitely it takes me like watching but for me I remember the first time Saturday Night Live parody and you're just like oh my God and then you're like excited I mean it really is flattering. It is true. In the end, it's flattering. I think that's what some, I've had some conversations with people I've done and I think at first they think

like, whoa. Well, you're not sure. You know, yeah, they're like, because I think that naturally, I think we grew up. Like, I definitely did around a time where it was more like sketches on YouTube and things were a little bit meaner. Like if you were going to do a parody of someone, it was

usually you were like really not, you know, you were mocking them. Yeah, and kind of going below the belt. And so I understood that people maybe come to my, you know, came to my videos with, with caution and, yeah, and being suspicious. But how did, so, so, how did you know to put them on YouTube? That was just something, I was, I was watching YouTube at work all the time, and I was watching, uh, makeup artists on, uh, Nicky Tutorials was like my number one. They're great. Yeah.

And, um, and like Jackie Ina and they were all teaching me how to do Kardashian makeup because I was doing Kardashian makeup. Like, you had to know. I get it. I need to know. I need to know how to do it. Yeah, it's very complicated. It was so hard. God.

And I was like, I kind of want to look, I want to try and look like them. And then I started to love doing makeup too. But it was just, I was like, okay, I feel like YouTube's a good place for this. And YouTube was never like my major. It was always Instagram. But I mean, you were super smart to do that. But I was like, great. We'll do YouTube too.

Yeah. And then I started like a Zodiac series. And that kind of ended right before COVID. And then during COVID, I just like went full. It's incredible that you did this before COVID. Like you were on it, man. No, I really am like, I can't make. make any more videos is what I'm finding as I as um as the show has come out yeah I'm like

oh people keep finding old ones and I'm like that is not funny I'm really I did not need to see that one again but I but I love it right because I mean I'm looking at our work from 30 years ago you know what I'm saying and it's good it's occasionally there's something that doesn't hold up oh yeah you know it's that's okay yeah we can talk about it we grow we learn like we learn society changes sometimes for better sometimes not for that boy you're cute you watch you back You go, I look cute. Are you ever like, shit I ate that day? You have to think that.

When you step out, after you've had the miscarriage, sorry, such a devastating. No, it's okay. Devastating. But when you step out in that pink dress. I haven't gotten there yet. I mean, I know the look. I know the look. I'll think this.

It's explosive. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I, as you said, when you're watching your work, you have so many different thoughts that go through about the day you filmed, about what was going. on you in your life at that, like so many different things flood you, you know, not necessarily objective things like I ate in that scene or whatever. Yeah. I will think this, though, from

the early, because I'm only in second season. I will think my hair looks great. Oh, yeah. And it always does. That's what I think. I'm like, wow, they did a great job. Now, there's a couple questionable styles. And then sometimes I'm like, why am I wearing that eye shadow? I think the most random weird things about myself. Yeah. Yeah. I want to go back to YouTube for a second. Because do you know that the whole entire industry is like unbelievably obsessed with YouTube right now? Do you know this? I kind of.

The YouTube numbers are super crazy in a way that none of the other streamers with the exception of Netflix, which obviously has its own market share that they were way ahead. The rest of us? And Prime Video Girls were, you know, we're doing the best we can.

We're never going to reach either one of these two. That's what they keep telling me. And there's a lot of consternation. There's a lot of consternation. But you very smartly put your stuff on YouTube. And then how did you go from there? to your own show. I need to know.

Oh my God. Okay. So the short of it, kind of, because, like, I have to talk to you about 15 different Charlotte looks. Also, I have to tell you why I wore this today. I went here. It was a whole journey.

Okay. So I... It's a good color. Actually, thank you so much. It was a... Yeah, I almost wore butter yellow, but it's... You see how my brain works?

You could pull off butter yellow. It was good, that was good. So it was actually a very, like, New York story. Oh. emailed me. I'm so sad. They're not there anymore. I don't think. They haven't been in a while. No, I don't think they are. Which is so sad because that was such a special place. Yeah. And they reached out to me because of my sketches on Instagram and YouTube. And we're like, do you have a live show? Because we're doing New York Comedy Fest and we want kind of a range of different shows. And I was like, course I have a live show. I was like, I need to pay rent. Oh my God. I thought like, oh yeah, maybe I could do this to pay rent. Because I didn't, I had gotten fired from this job. I had absolutely no money. My boyfriend let me live with him. I was just like.

I, okay, cool. Yeah, great. I'll make a live show. So I kind of did like a standup boot camp where I was like, I'll say yes to every. And I had kind of been writing like standup lines for a bit, but not a show of what a show would look like. But I wrote this show called Overcompensating. And it was a standup show about me being in the closet in high school and college. And then it kind of woven my characters and kind of my journey and how I felt like both really confident. And then also like, you know, you come out and then you're like, okay, so I'm but also like, who am I as a person now that I've been so stifled, I think, for so long. So, yeah, that was kind of my, the, I guess, like, ethos of that show. And then during that time, my agent reached out to me and he was like, you know, I'm watching your sketches. And they're starting to feel like more episodic. So I was doing these Kardashian ones. And they would be like Kardashian Christmas. I'm sure you're familiar.

The classic Kardashian Christmas. But, and I was like, no, I didn't go. to school for it but um but thank you for reaching out you know i'm like always great to get a call for my agent and he was like no just like just try it you don't have to he's like you know you can figure out formatting later but you're writing scenes and so like okay great so i went into my notes app and the first scene i wrote was this pregame scene with benny carman and haley and i had a character at that time named haley and it just like fully inspired the character as she is now played brilliantly by homes but yeah i just i i went to this kind of like core relationship

between gay men and women. And I was like, I think when I met this girl in college, it was the first time I wasn't overcompensating so much. And I started to tiptoe out of the closet. And I'm like, I don't know if I've seen that relationship on screen in a while that shows how complicated it is too. Because it's very complicated, like, sexually and emotionally. And then in the end, I'm like, my girls, like, saved, you know, my life and, like,

changed my life. Amazing. Yeah. And then how did it become a show? Oh, my God. So I wrote the pilot. because I thought internet boy I got to just write this thing

or else no one's going to believe that I can. Right. So I kind of went on a boot camp again. I watched the Shonda Rhymes masterclass. Yeah, my friend gave me her dad's login for masterclass. Thank you, Shonda. It's a fabulous master class. I mean, clearly.

And I just was like how I, but also I, I also didn't learn too many rules of script writing. So in my scripts, I like talk to the reader, which I didn't know, like I try to make the reader laugh during it. Right, smart. Which I didn't, I was just kind of like, oh, I want this to be fun to read because I assume a lot of people are reading scripts all, you know, they're reading scripts all day. Totally right. So I would say like, you know, how that feels lull or like things like that as, you know, or I'd be like, I hate, I hate how my fingers feel right now.

Or like, I would just say kind of like random. Like intimate. It's kind of a, it pulls the reader in. Yeah, where I would be like, I hate writing this scene. Wow. Wow. So I left them in and then 824 joined. And I felt so.

lucky for that. And then Jonah Hill and Strong Baby joined. Wow. And then Charlie joined the project. And then we took it out and Amazon swiped her out. What a lovely, lovely, incredible story. Thank you so much. It just gives me hope for the young people. Yeah. Out there who need to express themselves. Yeah. And it's like, and also, you know, I didn't know anyone in the industry. Right. It's amazing. I think that's the beauty of the internet. Like I, I think also because I came up with like Broad City and Issa Ray and these people that did kind of come originally. from like YouTube or Instagram or that or Twitter even sure that you know I think it kind of has open these like Hollywood Iron Gates it's amazing right they should never be iron you know

they should never be iron and yeah but it is interesting because people bring that up a lot of like it's like to become from the internet and I'm like well yeah I don't know it just feels like another way to access this like many jobs I think but also for you guys that's what it is right for us where the internet didn't exist when we started I mean literally didn't exist like it's impossible like my children do not understand. Like, I keep trying to say, like, it's crazy. They didn't have it.

They're like, well, dude, you know, when you were looking at your iPad, I'm like, no, no, no, no. A printed headshot. Think about that. Exactly. Yeah. That you spend so much money on. Oh, of course.

And you had to reprinted. And what I still did, I paid an agent in New York. And someone was like, so just to be clear, you should never pay an agent to join. They're like, so you shouldn't pay an agent unless you yourself are making money. I was like, okay. See, but that's also the joy of the internet. Right? Yeah.

Thank God because I do think there used to be, I mean, I would have friends who would go to like this class with that class or you know what? Like there was so many weird almost scam things. Oh, I went to all of them. I'm very easily scammed, I would say. And I'm glad I can say that on camera. Oh, good. You're with friends. You're always like great.

Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did an acting class in like North Hollywood that midway through. I was like, so I do think that this is a front for the cartel. Um, there is something... Did you ever watch Barry? Um, no, but I need to.

They totally have an acting class and then there's a cartel and then there's some kind of connection. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. That's always on my list. And it's in the valley. Okay. Oh, yeah, then that's where I was. That might have been really, yeah, what inspired it.

I think you would like Barry because Barry has a real darkness about it. Oh, yeah. And you can feel that in me. I mean, not really, but you do have a lot of different things. Oh, I will love it. Also, it's Bill Hater. He's amazing. Done.

And Billy Eichner. It's amazing. Yes. Done. I mean. So funny. I need to watch more TV. I'm just kind of re-watching sex in the city.

When you're doing TV, you have no time to watch TV. No. And sometimes watching it. My brain right now is like, oh, they paid so much for that sink. I know. It's distracting. I'm like, oh, that needle drop costs so much money. Or I'm like, oh, there's the brand deal.

That actually was really beautifully done. 100%. No, it's hard. And especially when you know people. People, and I do try to watch my friends work. But like, I have to be in the right head space. Do you know what? Because, like, you're.

you can't give up and just watch as a viewer because you know them too well. It's so, it is totally where I had that with, um, with Mary Beth at first. I would watch the show and in the first episode, I was like, you know, I think it was the first scene. I was like, oh, that's funny. It's, it's, it's us. Oh, she's very funny. And then in the second scene, I was like, oh my God, like my girl did it.

I truly believe her. I'm like, oh, yeah, we're so locked in. And it's such a great character. Yeah, I just had that with too much because it makes Stalter. I've known her for a while. and I'm, like, so proud of her, and the show is so amazing. Amazing. I haven't watched it yet, but at first I was like, I know Meg, so it is, it does take a second for your brain.

And then I was just like, oh, she's brilliant. I mean, you want to support and you want to watch and you want to be able to talk to them about it. But at the same time, it's just a different part of your brain that you're using, I think, to watch. Yeah. Let's talk about the show. Okay. So there's this show. Because you're so much fun, Vennie.

I can talk to Vennie about anything. Okay, so I just, background, the first time I watched Sex in the City in its entirety was actually when I got asked by Carolines to do that show, I was so nervous. And I was like, for some reason, I just think now is the time I'm going to watch it. Because I had seen episodes and the movies. But I was like, no, I'm going to do my like locked in. I'm watching it from start to finish everything. That's interesting. And it like got me through that time of like insane nerves.

Good. And then also just like I was living in New York So I really, you know, it's the full fantasy. Very. And then I did it again right before I did writer's room Oh. For overcompensating. And then when we finished shooting, I did it again.

Oh my God. So I'm very impressed. I can watch it. And it is my me and Mary best thing of like, if we can't find something, hot child in the city, let her rip. Hot child. Let her rip. I think it's the best episode.

Wait. I think it's one of the best episodes in the, I really think it's one of the best episodes. Okay. No one. has ever said those words to me. Wait, really? Yeah, really.

I think it is expertly crafted, and it literally feels like New York in the summer. Well, can I tell you the story behind it? I haven't rewatched it yet, right? And there's certain ones where I'm like, I'm so curious how I'm going to feel about this when I watch it. Yeah. We, you know, some summers, like this current summer in New York are like so hot. Yeah, scorchers.

Like, if you open the door, you're, like, kind of hit by a wave of heat. Yeah. Some summers, not so much. Yeah. We'd been filming. We would usually go to work in February. We'd be freezing, freezing, freezing, fucking cold in our tiny dresses, trying to pretend that we weren't, trying not to see our breath. We would work all through the summer and wrap in August.

So we would get the beautiful spring and then the hot, and then we would go home and do award shows and whatever once that got rolling, right? Yeah. But then we'd go back in February and also freeze. So one summer, it was one of those like 100 plus all summer, and we were just dying. I mean, we'd have to reapply and make up so much and we'd just be like, oh, deliriously hot and tired and whatever. So they wrote the show, Hot Child in the City, for the next summer. Not hot. Oh, it was cold.

No. That's hell. It was funny. God laughs. It was kind of funny. Because isn't there like a hose situation or something? There's a hose. There's something.

Right? Because Hot Child and the City ends on the rooftop, no? Oh my God, yes. Yeah. The iconic moment where you're in the like really. It is hot. And then it got hard because that was like one of the last scenes we filmed. It feels very, the energy is very, yes.

The tar was so soft that we got tar on all of our shoes. Oh. And Cynthia and I, you know how you do like. Those roofs in New York are, right? You know how you get like gifts or food or things? We had decided that. I don't know why we didn't talk to locations before we made the decision. We decided to bring an ice cream truck, but we were on the roof and it was a very tall building.

No. Yes. So the ice cream truck's down there. And it's stairs. Is there no elevator? And there's stairs because they've taken the elevator for the lights and the technical stuff. So Cindy and I. You're like enjoy it, crew.

No, we're carrying boxes. No. Yes, like up and up and up and up. I hope this is hot child in the city. It is, right? I think that's in that episode. I mean, honestly, I haven't rewatched it yet. I wonder.

If I'm wrong, someone will come for me. But this is the joy. No, no, no one's going to come for you because what I found in my rewatching is that people have different scenes that stand out to them. them from different episodes and they might mesh them together and that's cool. Do you know what I'm trying to say?

Oh yeah. It's about your experience watching it. It's the world. Yeah, yeah. It's like it's all and I, it's funny that this is the episode we're talking about today because I, Charlotte stands out to me in this one

because it's so, this storyline is, I need to know your thought because I didn't remember this storyline at all. It's so iconic. What is happening? I care about aesthetics. Isn't that her line or something?

So talk about a good hair day for you, that brunch. It looked good. It looked good. I was into my hair. Really, really good. Yes, my hair is finally growing out from the haircut they made me get for the pilot. No, it's so cute.

The hair and the pilot, there's so many different takes on hair in that. Well, because we didn't have our people yet. Well, it's so interesting because Sarah Jessica's brunette. Yes, which is how she was. Yeah. You know, like my color. The change from episode one to two is a lot. It's a lot.

It's a lot. The pilot culture is so. That's crazy. That's crazy. Right? It's crazy. And that you don't know. Because she was in very much like a Broadway, you know, like, I'm going to be myself.

I mean, I thought she looked amazing that way. But I think Darren really had Candace in his mind, right? And I don't, I think Sarah Jessica was like, I'm not going to be playing Candace as Candice because this has to be my own character, right? So there are certain things that she took and she very much knew that world. But then I think there were other things where she was like, well, I'm going to be myself, right? Yeah. But then Darren was like, we're going to work on the hair. Yeah.

And then, I've never told anyone this, but since you're here and you're you, so my hair was, you know, it's natural, pristine, pure, untouched color when we begin. Yeah. At a certain point, I want to say in second season, they come to me, the producers, John Melfi, by name. And they were like, your hair is just, it's too dark. And I'm like, what do you mean? I'm the brunette. Yeah.

I'm the only one. You're like, I'm the dark community. Yeah, what are you talking about? it's hard to light. And I'm like, but what, why? Sweet, that's your job. Me, I know, right? That's not my problem.

It's just holding hands. So I had to go get my hair colored with highlights. I had never done it. I knew nothing, okay? I took a huge canvas, like, who should I go to? Who's going to be subtle? I don't want some tacky-yes. Yeah.

Yeah. Where'd you go? I ended up at Fikai. I ended up there, but I didn't start there. How do I know that? You know what I mean? You're on it, babe. Like, I don't know, like, my grandma's middle name, but I know that.

You know, it's like that's, unfortunately, what my brain is. It's important. It's important information. My current colorist started as an assistant at Fokai in New York. See? I know. You're there. That's me and you.

So I go, I get these highlights. They are very subtle. In the beginning, they weren't enough. So come whatever season, I want to say third, we haven't gotten to it yet. At a certain point, I have kind of freakishly weird highlights that then grow out. Because no one really told me, like, you have to go get them touched up. I didn't have any gray then, right? young, you know? So like, we would be working. I had no time. It's like, okay, Charlotte.

I know. I had like a stripe, like a yellow stripe. And we were so tired. I don't think we noticed it because, you know, I lived in ponytails at that point because it was hot, right? And I've got like a yellow stripe. No one even tried to fix it or color it or send me back or whatever. It's pretty funny. It is like you can really, and I'm sure you're feeling this, you can see the things that are shot at the beginning of production and at the end. And when, oh, it looks a little different. It's so true. And especially like when you lose your mind because you're not sleeping, like all the things.

Some of the choices. I'm like, damn, okay. Benny was manicure. I like that. Yeah, okay. I'm so happy to hear that other people are weird about hair because I have to say, I was like very specific of like, I don't want wigs and I want the dyed hair. I agree.

Yeah, I'm like, I'll be able to see it. I find wigs take a, I agree. I always see the bump. And I'm also the hairline. And also no one touches their hair when they're wearing a wig. Yes, exactly. That's not right. It doesn't have, yeah.

Because people touch their hair all the time. For a college girl, I'm like, it should just feel. So both Holmes and Marybeth did dye their hair. That was sweet of them. Yes, it was very sweet. And we offered wigs, of course, were like, if you really don't want to. But I think also, to me I'm kind of like dying for someone to tell me that.

I'm sure, yeah, everyone's like, yeah. But I do, I kind of like, it feels like you could just get into the character. Like there's something about seeing it in the mirror and that shift. I think helps. Changing your hair? Yeah, like that feels so... See, my problem was that I didn't think Charlotte would have highlights. Well, I agree with that.

And I agree with that. Oh, she would never. Right. So I was like... Layers even seem kind of crazy. Well, that was me kind of fighting for change. Because at a certain point, they would say to me two or three different things that I would just be like, man, you guys are killing me. They'd be like, Charlotte doesn't get angry.

This was maybe for like two solid years. Okay. And I was like, you guys. I think it's time. Come on. Yeah. After all this. Yeah.

All these dudes. I think it's about time. That, oh God, what episode is that when your friend, like, where is he? Oh, yeah. I've been dating since I was 15. Where is he? I'm exhausted. Yeah.

Whoa, that's third season. Third season in my mind is when we really were firing on all cylinders. I mean, it's, the show does know who it is immediately, I will say. Definitely. I feel that too. Yeah. It is, I mean, what a delicious moment when you just. don't have any more direct to cameras.

Oh my. That was crazy. But you test, oh, who. Yeah. Not real fans. I know. It's strange, right?

Because it's just like, it just takes away from these four iconic actresses. And also, you can't be with each other. You're like looking at a camera for some unknown reason. And when Carrie's talking to herself with voiceover, but then has to look at the camera, poor sir Jessica. Well, we say, hi, Fleabag. Let's go.

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And why does it seem like so many smart people keep falling for outlandish tricks? These are the questions we explore in hoax, a new podcast from me, Dana Schwartz, the host of Noble Blood. And me, Lizzie Logan. Every episode, we'll explore one of the most audacious and ambitious tricks. in history from the fake Shakespeare's to balloon boys and try to answer the question of why we believe what we believe listen to hoax on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hey everyone it's jay shetty and on today's episode of on purpose i'm joined by four-time grand slam champion naomi osaka what i was dealing with at the time feeling ashamed going against

everything an athlete stood for. After I pulled out of the French Open, I flew. Ranked as number one in the world in women's singles. A four-time Grand Slam tennis champion, Naomi Osaka. We would be constantly on the tennis court, and I would watch other kids go to summer vacation, and I would always think, dang, like, I kind of want to be someone else.

What was the feeling like when you won your first grand slam at the U.S. Open? When I was growing up, I had dreams of playing Serena in my first grandstand final. It felt like a dream came true. I was just reading comments of people saying that I didn't deserve to win. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Founding Fathers were gossipy A.F.

And they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

you get your podcasts. I just want to say one more time that I'm just so impressed. Oh my God. Thank you so much. Yes. And I also really desire. that you meet Michael Patrick King. Oh, I'm dying to. Because you too... I'm dying to meet my king. Are you kidding?

I have so much to talk to him about. Right. That would be... You want to talk about an ADD lunch into dinner. I mean, a fun lunch is how I would describe it. Yes. Because he used to teach a class

that Lena Waith took for showrunners. Oh. Oh, I'm so curious. Oh, my God. Oh, I would love... And she gives him so much... Because my showrunner knows Scott King, who I worked on this with.

They know each other. and only has the best things to say about him. I love all my kings. The kings are incredible. The kings are phenomenal. Tell me the looks you want to talk about. And then we're going to talk about the actual life. I wore a big pony polo today for you because Charlotte worked at Ralph Lauren model.

I was an Abercrombie greeter. So, real recognize, real. Real recognize real. Incredible. So I tried to find the sweater with my stylist. We were trying to find the original sweater that you wear when you're in the bookstore, I believe. Yes. It's a breast cancer.

So I don't think they're making it anymore. They're not making anymore. It was a benefit. I love them to reissue. I agree. I'm trying to find this sweater because I wanted to do a little tight little sweater for you. Oh my God, that would be awesome. But this looks great.

We found this and I was like, okay, I think this is my Charlotte. It's a color that's working. Stop. I'm going to get you one. Yes. Yes. But okay, so a few of my favorite outfits. I love the Prada lipstick skirt.

I still own it and I get it out for special reasons. Megan V. Stallion came on the episode, as did Lena Waith on the same day. God, I'm in good company. It was a day. It was a day. Oh, my God. It was so exciting. So I wore the lipstick skirt.

I only get it out for special things, but I do love it. Wow. Okay. That huge, obsessed. Okay. Can I also tell you I chose that? Oh. I was flying back and forth a lot and I was reading, you know, old school paper magazines.

Yeah. And it was in the Prada ad. And I had become a Prada fanatic at that point. I was like a paraholic. I mean, I spent so much money. The silhouettes? Like, come on. They're perfect for you.

Yeah. Yeah. My business manager called me one time. He's really sweet. I've had him for 35 years. And he said, And he said, I'm just confused. Like, the Prada charges are so big.

How many pairs of shoes can you buy? And I was like, Ron, they make other things. Sweetie, you go, well, so there's sweaters, there's headbands, there's scarves, bags, purses, wallets even, now even keychins. I know. And yeah. And then it's like, and we haven't even gotten into trousers. I know. And I had a discount.

But that's how bad it was at one point, yeah. You know when they start texting you, that's when you're like on your birthday. I know you're scared. You get more texts from them from Mu-Mu in Toronto. The M-Mu and Toronto text me more than family, I would say, at this point. I've gone to the Prada in Toronto and Vancouver. It's better sometimes in Canada. Vancouver, Prada, Mary Beth and I did a show.

I spent a lot of money there. Yeah, God, me too. I know. See, I know that I have kids. I don't spend. I love it. I love it. I love it. But anyway, I had been looking at that and I was like, I need to have that outfit. And so I went to Pat and I said, I need to have this outfit. And it would be great for when I meet Trey. She's like, no, we have to have four of them because you're falling in the street. And I was like, well, let's find four of them. She's like, I've called everyone and they don't have four of them. I'm like, let's call Europe. Let's call headquarters. Let's call Milan. Let's call. China. The problem with China is they, in the Asia markets, all the skirts are shorter. I learned this from shopping at, Prada, Tokyo. Okay.

Wow. Because the people are smaller. Oh, you are? Wow. I learned this from shopping Prada Tokyo. This is the best moment of my life. Like, I am exactly what I need to be. I am exactly what I need to be.

I got the things home and I was like, oh, shit. I can't wear this. I'm going to give it to my very, very small friend, Lauren. Oh, my God. Okay, cute. Anyway, she found them. God bless her. God bless her.

And then I wore it to fall on the street with Kyle. And of course, I was so worried about the skirt that I didn't even get it dirty. Yeah, of course. Yeah, but they had to wet it down, so it looked beautiful. Yeah, but I still discurs your vibe. Yeah. Well, back then, I think we, now we get to keep everything that's in our contract. But back then, I think they just were nice and we're like, what would you like to choose? You know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely had some actor's steal, I would say. Yeah, that happens. I keep seeing Yates merch everywhere and I'm like, interesting. Oh, no.

So I'm like, we potentially would make another season. So where'd you get that? Yeah, keep it clean. I'm like, interesting. Keep it together. Yeah, I know. But I did keep a lot. Right, and I bring back stuff too.

But tell me the other outfits you like. Okay, well, I'm actually curious what your favorites are. A skirt would be up there. I mean, it has to be. I love the Zach Pose and Black Swan. I would never want to own it, though, because it was very high maintenance. But I loved it. Stressful.

Partly because I love Zach. Yeah. And Zach had come to that day. He was at a weird time with his business. You know, he's been through up and down, up and down. And he came to the day when we were our first day at the library when we were all dressed. And he was standing across the street with the crowds. Oh, my God.

We were like, is that Zach? No, oh my God. Like, Zach come. Yeah. And he was so shy. We love him so much. What was it like? Do you get so nervous before scenes when everyone's watching and paparazzi?

Like that to me feels so. Yeah. You know what it is now? I think because we took time away, we appreciate them. And also there's like this interactive thing that happens. Like there's a scene this past season where Sarah just going to, walking along, I'm wearing a flower dress, and she's wearing black and white and we're in the village. It was hot. And there were maybe 150 people on the other side of the street.

Yeah. So amazingly helpful and quiet. Like, like, we would say to them, like, when we say rolling, can you guys be quiet? But it was a tiny street. It wasn't even like a big one, right, or like an avenue or anything. And they'd be hushed. Oh, okay. That's amazing. You know, so like you're feeling like your, yes, you have to tune them out somehow to be in the scene. But it's respectful and they're part of it, you know, so you feel like, oh, they do really love us and respect us and want to be part of it and we're happy that they're there. That's so sweet. Now, one time, I remember, this is when it started to escalate. And I remember being like, what is happening?

We were, when we first started, we had no security. Sometimes we wouldn't even have like a green room area or a safe area to go except for our trailers, which might be blocks away, you know, when you're filming in the city, right? Yeah, of course. And it was, we would always shoot as the, we would start at 5 a.m. on Monday. each day would get longer and longer and longer until Friday we were working until the sun came up. Because we had to stop when the sun came up because we were outside, right? So Friday night, we have like possibly a five block walk and talk, all four of us. In the wee hours, they picked 6th Avenue in the village.

Okay. It's Friday night. Okay, someone was playing games. Yes. And we have no security. And they put our chairs in the gutter along 6th Avenue, right? So we're just supposed to sit there in our outfits. You know, in between eating, you know, at that point,

the McDonald's French fries are there. Friday night, we're like full in. Oh, wait, that's so, literally. Yeah, like we would time it. Like, is it time for the McDonald's run? Where's the Diet Coke? Oh. I had my special Diet Coke.

Oh, crispy Diet Coke in the middle of the night. Not anymore, but back then, yes. You have that and you go, God, I love being an actor. Right? But we had to get through five blocks, like up and down the curbs. You know, we're miced. Of course, our mics are between our legs. Don't get me started.

But we also have to be loud They're trying to boom us as well We've got so much dialogue You know, blah blah blah blah blah Michael Patrick wants a perfect Word perfect No messups, no ad-libs And fast

Okay, okay You know like old school Right? 30 minute episodes We are having some struggles Let me tell you It's a lot So if we could get through one

All the way it would be amazing Right And I remember at one point We're going It's going great right We're on cue blah blah blah blah blah this car drives by and these guys are like sex in the city bitches we're like damn it you ruined that day we were like back we go so then at a certain point

I remember like we just could we just could when people were coming and they're drunk it's like the village on Friday night you know so we went into this restaurant you know like the little opening like for when it's cold like the door and then the door yeah we were like hiding in there and then they came out, like, what's going? We were like, could we please hide it here? Yeah. And then next year we had, we had security. Security.

Yeah, thank God. Okay. But most of the time now, it's great. It's respectful. But I think that's because we have a greater appreciation, you know, of all of it now, right? We've had time away. That's beautiful. We understand it better.

You know what I mean? We have had paparazzi get into fights with each other, which is never helpful. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, but if they're not attacking us, we're cool. Yeah, exactly. It's like, fine. take the photo and then, right, right. You guys, Benny's here and I'm in love.

And I'm in love with you. I'm sorry. And we knew this would happen. Everyone in my life knew this would have it. It's true. So we're going to stop now and we're going to come back. Please join us for our actual recap of old dogs, new dicks. New dicks, baby.

I was like, am I saying new dicks? I know. You might need to the next time. You might need to because it's hard. It's hard. All right. We love you guys. Thank you for listening.

Come back. Join us with Benito Skinner. Love you. Otherwise, Benny Drama. Yeah. Many different things we could call him. He's multi-talented. And you better.

Yeah, I love it. Thank you. And I will. The stuff you should know guys have made their own summer playlist of their must listen podcasts on movies. It's me, Josh. And I'd like to welcome you to the Stuff You Should Know summer movie playlist. What Screams Summer?

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summer movie playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies.

But even more incredible, that article was written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the man who invented Sherlock Holmes. How did he fall for that? Hoax is a new podcast for me, Dana Schwartz, the host of Noble Blood. And me, Lizzie Logan. Every episode, we'll explore one of the most audacious and ambitious tricks in history and try to answer the question, why we believe, what we believe. Listen to Hoax on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. Hey guys, it's AZ Fud. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA-N-C-W-A national champion. You may even know me as a people's princess. Every week on my new podcast, Fud Around and Find Out, I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball, and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. Listen to Fud Around and Find Out, a production of IHeart Women's Sports in partnership with unanimous media on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey everyone, it's Jay Chetty, and on today's episode of On Purpose, I'm joined by four-time

Grand Slam champion Naomi Osaka. What I was dealing with at the time, feeling a shame, going against everything an athlete stood for. Ranked as number one in the world in women's singles. A four-time Grand Slam tennis champion, Naomi Osaka. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty

on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. podcast. You, the listener, ask the questions. Did George Washington really cut down a charity? Were J&K and Marilyn Monroe having an affair? And I find the answers. I'm so glad you asked me this question. This is such a ridiculous story. You can listen to American History Hotline on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This is an IHeart podcast.