Are You A Charlotte? - In the Mud with Lisa Ann Walter... (S4 E10 "Belles of the Balls")

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

You love her in Abbott Elementary and she’s iconic in The Parent Trap, but can you believe Lisa Ann Walter has NEVER seen an episode of Sex and the City.She joins Kristin to share her thoughts and reactions in real time!What made her emotional, what made her laugh, what did she think!??!?!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. Help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the ice.

Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program.

Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place. I'm Akela Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things. As I was watching these statues come down, I was thinking about what it meant that I could. grew up in a majority black city in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslave people.

Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Hi, everybody. Welcome to Are You a Charlotte. Thanks for joining us today. Today, we are going to rewatch Bells of the Balls. episode 410. It aired on July 29th, 2001, and we're going to discuss it with the fantastic Lisa

and Walter. You probably know her from Abbott Elementary, one of my all-time favorite shows. I love it so much. It's my comfort show that I go to. And she's also had a very long career. You could also know her from The Parent Trap, which is awesome. And she has an upcoming comedy special. She does stand up, you guys. And she's raised four kids. So she's super fast. And she holds a very, very rare position in our podcast in that she has not previously seen sex in the city. So she's going to be interesting. We throw her right in in the fourth season. And she has a lot of thoughts.

So this is going to be fun. Here comes Lisa and Walter. My mom, which is live, was like, why are we having all these women fight over this dumb guy? Definitely. And I'm like, that's actually the reason. and why the thing that I loved about the show is that having not watched it when it came out, and I was explaining that it was because I was starring in my own show that I had also co-created. Got it.

It was my ABC show was my second one. And I'm doing the job, or was doing the job that Quinta is doing now, where you're starring, you're in the writer's room, you're out promoting. You are constantly working in. I had two children. So there was not, I didn't have a lot of time. No streaming, by the way. Right.

So you watched it or you missed it. I'm a Sicilian and a huge fan of the mob if it existed. But I never watched the Sopranos. So I just, I never watched it. I remember doing Bruce Almighty with Jennifer Aniston, played her sister. And I had to say like the second day we worked together, I'm like, I'm sorry I never saw friends. Because my show was at the same time that that was being. This is very interesting.

You are like, you should be studied as like an anomaly. Right. But you have not seen sex and Missing. And you have not seen friends. Never. I mean, I can't even get my mind around it. So let me just say that the thing that I put on the episode to watch the one that we're going to discuss. And I watched five more.

Yay. Okay. We might have sucked you in. No, because I love the celebration of female friendship. That's right. It's like kind of what my whole vibe and my projects are all about. I think it is incredibly important to watch adult female friends that will do anything for each other. I agree.

And that was our whole, I mean, we did have, you know, we were at HBO during the original programming, you know, kind of like Mecca, right? We were on one soundstage and sopranos were down the hall. And we got like two notes ever from HBO. One was that, I mean, now I can't even remember what one was, but one was. Stop whacking people? No, that was for the other show. And they would never have said that, obviously. But it was that the women, that we should never argue over a man for any reason.

So there was one episode that we already rewatched where Carrie had dated a guy in the past that we've never seen before and they run into him. And Miranda thinks he's cute and says, could I, could I go out with him? Do you mine? And she goes, well, I don't think you want to because he's kind of a jerk. And she's like, oh, but I think he's cute. And she goes out with him and he does end up being a jerk. And they try to have a drink with Carrie. and then he's not that nice to carry

like he's got some kind of a wound about her, right? And he kind of lashes out of her. Miranda's like, stop it, you will not. And then she's like, oh, phew, I didn't mind. I should have believed you the first time he said it, you know. And so it was wonderful for our perspective because I had previously been on Melrose's place where, you know, full soap opera, right, where you're plotting against the other women and whatnot.

Trading and this one. Right. Haven't done this mix up yet. Right, exactly. But so what's interesting to me about that is that there is kind of a girl code. At least they're supposed to be that if you really care for your girlfriend, you just, you won't get with her ex-husband. You don't, you know, right. Even if, like, you guys would be perfect together.

It's just, it's weird. I agree. Totally. Like, to me, if I have a girlfriend who is with a fella, he becomes asexual immediately. I'm with you 100%. It's like, I don't, he's a Ken doll. There's no part. It's nice because then you can also just be purely friends with that person's spouse because I think that's important.

Yeah, sure. If it's a good relationship and you're supporting. It's nice to just be able to have guy friends and that's a safe way to have guy friends. Yeah, that's right. It makes me feel very, it gives me the ick as the kids say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When girls are pick me and you're with like your girlfriend and her male partner. Yeah.

And the girl is, your girlfriend's trying to side with him over stuff. Yeah. No, you support your girl. That's true. That's true. I have two good friends who have been married something like their 30 years or something crazy, right? Because, you know, they're doing great and it's impressive. Every once in a while, I will side with their husbands now.

Okay, that's okay. But it took a long time. Okay, but it is always a little risky. No, 30 years in, you know when your girlfriend's being a dummy too. Right. And I mean, you trust him. Okay, great. But you do feel a little panicked.

You know what I mean? Like, do I? Like, is it okay? Is she going to be really mad? I've given him a hard time about that. Like, that's the thing, too, is that you're on the outside looking in. Like, he's doing something you feel is benign. Right.

But she's been like, why is he breathing like that? Of course, whatever it is, right? Because they're in a relationship about you don't know everything, even if you know them really well. Yeah. And I also think that the thing, the thing I feel, and maybe this is just about me, I don't know. I find it very risky to argue. 100%. Right?

Oh, 100%. I don't want to. Okay. How many times do you have friends and they are in a, I mean, a real major fight with their guy, who by the way, you probably maybe don't like, you've seen all that stuff. Right. But all you do is kind of weigh the pros and cons of do I go, yeah, no, out, he's done. Because then they get back together and all of a sudden you're not on the invite list. Like you're not. Oh, that would hurt. Not that you care about getting invited to a party, but you care whether you lose your friend. Because now he knows that you're anti. That's true. That's true. I mean, I struggle with that with my 14-year-old daughter more because most of my friends are like mature enough where I don't really feel like they're unaware. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like, if they're maybe unaware, I have faith they're going to get there. So I might play the long game a little bit. But my 14-year-old because of the friendships, right? Like you're saying like, hey. Are you talking about more with her girlfriends? Like, watch out for that one. Yeah.

I mean, tell me advice. Let me get in there. Let me get my hands dirty. Okay, Mama 4. Oh my gosh. Because my vagina is a clown car. Amazing. These are the jokes.

I, they're all pretty grown, three boys, one girl. Okay. The girl was the one that when she was in school, they had a click that all of a sudden decided to be mean girls. And it happened very young, like sixth grade. Oh, wow. And they wouldn't play with her because she didn't have a baby G watch. I feel like since we're discussing a shows that goes.

goes back and I'm wearing my vintage Diane Bond first of her. I like. I feel like we can discuss baby G watches. I don't even know what that is. It was a thing. It was a thing that back in the day you had to have if you wanted to be a cool kid. Wow. And she didn't have one

because she kept losing stuff and I'm like, I'm not buying you that way overpriced dump plastic watch that you're going to lose by tomorrow. Like prove to me that you're not going to lose your stuff and I'll get you the watch. For sure. So they were making fun of her. I wouldn't talk to her and wouldn't play with her and they did that thing. Do you remember back in the day when they would do this thing where

they would get somebody on a call and then other people would be listening in, but you didn't know they were listening in? And one of the girls would try to get you to say bad things about the one that was listen. Oh, horrible. Oh, it was so mean girl. Horrible. And I never had that growing up because all of my girlfriends were like tight, tight, tight, tight girl. I loved my girlfriends. There was no, let me try to like get, you know, get you. So I was like, okay, you got to stay away. away from those kids. Look, you've got this girl, this girl, and this girl. They have never let you down. They have always been your buddy. They are not trying to get over on you. Trust those girls. These ones, they're not going to be cool in five years. They're going to be fighting with each other,

and it's going to be drama the whole time. Luckily, she listened to me. But I remembered back when I was a girl, and my mother said, watch out for that one. And I wanted to go, what's wrong with you? She's fine. My mother was wrong. Right. I know. So this is not advice for you. This is advice for your 14-year-old daughter, who probably is a fan of the parent trap. So listen up. This is Chessie talking to you.

When your mother tells you watch out for that one, your mother is always right. I love it. And you'll figure it out at some point that your mother, your friends come and go. Your mother has only one person that she's watching out for, and it's you. That's right. years from now, you'll go, God, my mother was right. That's a good point. That's a good point.

And by the way, your mother holds a grudge. Oh, I mean, that's for sure. You could be out of college and your mother will run into her at the grocery store and be like, I never liked that one. No, no, no, for sure, for sure, for sure. All right, so let's discuss, let's discuss again. Well, let's discuss that somehow you managed not to watch us or friends, which to me, that takes some work. Like, I understand you were busy, right? But like how did you avoid it?

Oh my God, you're so right. Okay, here's the thing. Tell me. When a show comes on and it becomes that phenomenon that your show was and still is. And that friends still it. For sure. My kids, my twins, my boy twins who are 25, watched all of friends. Oh, I know.

And we're talking about different episodes. For sure. They like got into it. when I miss the beginning of it, I feel like, well, I'm behind now. Oh, I understand. Everybody's already talking about it. And so now I'm behind.

Right. One night when I was, I can't remember what was going on, but I woke up in the middle of the night. I couldn't fall back asleep. I'm like, I don't know what's going on. Probably menopause. I don't know. Sure.

But I woke up. Many nights. Yes. I couldn't fall back. You know that thing where you wake up at two in the morning and you contemplate your death for like three hours. for like three hours and then you finally go back to sleep. Well, in that night, instead of contemplating my mortality, I flipped the TV on and your show

was on. So sex in the city came on. No. I actually, no, it was on. And I was doing that thing where I was trying to fall asleep, but I got sucked in. Oh, good. And so I couldn't for the life of you. No, I do know what was happening.

I was going to say, you were in the middle somewhere. Yes. I was in the middle somewhere. Okay. Got it. So I got the vibe. I got the relationships. I got the humor.

It was all great. And I was, and I continued to watch. And then at some point I went, well, now I got to start at the beginning. But I was, I'm shooting.

Yeah, I'm shooting the shows who I didn't have time. I totally get it. I totally get it. This is, this is the joy of COVID. If you have COVID,

then you can catch up. Yeah, okay. See, I have things I save for, you know, anytime I might be like really ill. Exactly. Yeah.

Like, for instance, I missed the leftovers. I still haven't seen a show. Yeah, it's really good. It's just. It's Justin Thoreau and Carrie Coon. They're amazing.

Amazing. And I had COVID. I was in New York. We were working. So my kids weren't there. And I couldn't work. So I watched all of it from start to finish. It was awesome.

It was really great. Yeah. I tend to do that with shows that like everybody was into, oh, golly. Speaking of Carrie. What's the new show that's not Bridgeton? I call it Dark Houses. But that's not what it's actually called. Degilded Age.

Guilded Age. Yes. So I'm so. I didn't watch it and it was we're into the third season or something like that. Yeah. And I hadn't watched it. And then either I got sick. You're exactly right.

Yeah. I got sick and I couldn't go anywhere for a week. And I put on that and I watched all of them. Perfect choice. Pluribus. All of them in one day. Claribus is too dark. I can't watch it.

Oh, really? Yeah, not yet. Not yet. You like Quinta. I only have an hour. I know. See, I watch you guys. You are my comfort show.

Yes. I love Quintas so, so much. I love all of you. I'm going to start watching Sex in the City the minute I get home. Okay, so that was the hook. I just needed a little hook. You're adorable. No, no, no.

You didn't need it because once I watched the one episode that we're discussing now, I watched five more episodes immediately afterwards. Oh, I'm so glad. I was like, I would have continued to watch it, but I had to get back on a union, I'm a union officer. Oh, fantastic. And we're in negotiations right now. Oh, I love that.

Oh, that's good. I'm so glad you're in there. Well, I'm trying. I'm good. I mean, that's all you can do. Thank you from the rest of us. You're welcome. I also, so I, for me, looking back, right,

because we would always get the VHS. They would send us the VHS. Remember? Right? Before it aired. And then usually by Sunday night, I was busy. I wasn't going to watch with people. You know what I'm saying?

It was like Sunday night we had to go to bed early because we would start at 5 in the morning, whatever, you know. So I wasn't watching it Sunday night, but I would watch it usually alone on the VHS. It might be a little rough. They'd send it to us with some things. Yeah, a little few things needed to be sweetened. Exactly.

But we were always, like, so excited to watch it. And then I didn't watch it for a very, you know, 30 years or whatever it is, 25. Because- You mean you didn't watch the old episodes, but you right? Right. Right. Right. I had seen them originally, right?

Because didn't you want to watch to see, like, which take they picked? Yep. Or did that line make it? Did it last the edit? Absolutely. Absolutely. And at the time, Cynthia would get the dailies because she is a crazy person. person.

And she would put them on in the trailer. Right? In the trailer, I know. She, in her mind, because she's really, really staged, stage, stage trained. And that's what she loves. She was learning. She was still learning. It was still her rehearsal process.

Yes. So she, that was what she did in the trailer. And then all of us would come and would be like, please take it off. Please take it off. Right. But it was really nice that they gave them to her. But I could never go through that, right? But I was curious what would make it in and how it was.

And if it was how I felt. it was, you don't know what I'm saying? Yeah. Did it play the way you were feeling it? Yeah, yeah. Did it read? Right. As we say, an actor land.

100%. Did it read? Tyler, who plays Gregory on our show, does not watch anything the entire season. Oh, wow. Because he doesn't want it to change what he's doing. Does he watch it eventually? Yes. Okay.

He watches it event. Like sometimes I'll get a text from him off season. Uh-huh. And it'll be like, that was great. Great. I'm doing Tyler. A great, great job in episodes. 16. Love it. Love it. Love it.

Just now. Sir Jessica also does not enjoy watching herself. She used to watch herself, and I don't think she ever enjoyed it, but she used to do it. And it is sometimes a bone of contention at work because Michael Patrick are showrunner, you know, are Quinta. It, like, is hurt

that she doesn't want to watch it. But I think for her, it's about preserving her what she needs to do a good job. Yeah. She doesn't want to be judging how do I look on this angle? How do I come across when I make this face? Like, oh, God, that's unattractive. Right, like all the things.

Believe me. Every time I see myself in profile. I'm like, oh, God. I mean, that's the thing, too. We can really just get things stuck in our mind. And they're not, it's not accurate. I mean, there's so many things that I know that I was worried about when we were filming these that, of course, you look at and you're like, I cannot believe that I was

spending time back then thinking that I was fat. Well, that could be an entire hour. Right? Entire hour. I swear to God, I'm going to call my next comedy special The Last Fat Actress. It's so hysterical like I would say that. But I understand because we live in a crazy world. Because when people post stuff of mine from the 90s where, by the way, I thought I was fat.

And people are like, it's because the 90s were so, stop it. I grew up in the 70s when we still had holdover from the 60s where people were twiggy. I remember. And literally had to be sticked in. and all of our mothers were busy eating a product called AIDS, A-Y-D-S. Well, I miss this. Yeah, it was a chocolate that was basically at speed in it. Like an endetamine.

Yes. It was a chocolate with speed in it. Oh, my God. And people were doing that. We were doing, I was in high school taking something or other that was a diet aid. From this drugstore? I got this too, yeah. I had this too.

And drinking it with Tab. I'm surprised I didn't have a heart attack by the time I was 17. Yeah. I was doing a Diet Coke with the thing from the diet. And killing ourselves and putting a whole generation of us into EDs. Right. And the same thing is coming around again. I am so sorry.

But I do have to go back to what you were talking about with judging. I'm watching you in the episode, the first one. And I'm like, my God, she is the most perfect face I've ever seen. Like, I was so in love with your nose. I'm like, how many people went to a plastic surgeon and went, give me her nose? Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news? Huge news. we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.

But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery. in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier.

We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jared O'Dano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please!

But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Syke!

I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, Grant recommends some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream a chicken suit.

This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I do have a funny nose story, though. So this is my own nose. I have not done anything to it. Yes, because it's very particular and you. This is what I learned. And suits your face.

Thank you so much. I had a guy friend who had gotten his nose broken and wanted to go get it fixed or whatever. It was like some internal, I don't know. So we're at one of these Beverly Hills plastic surgeons who I don't even know, right? But somebody, I'm tagged along to be the girl. No, no. I don't think so. He's the nose guy.

Oh, is he the nose guy? I don't think my friend really knew either, right? And I was no help. I think he thought, like, the actress was going to be informed, but I was not informed, right? So whoever this man was, he was very, very nice. We're sitting there and he's telling my friend what he should do. And then he's like, and you, your nose. And I was like, well, you know, we're not, no, no, he didn't mean it in a bad way.

He just meant, like, that it's disgust, right? He was like, oh, you know, I have talked to people about your nose. And I said, yeah, I don't really understand, like what, I don't understand because some people think I've done something to my nose. And he said, definitely you have not because no one can recreate your nose. Thank you. That's so sweet. It's basically my mother's nose. Yeah. Yeah.

Just for the record. It is mine. Very, very, very particular and singular. And that, I mean, goes back to what we were talking about. Like, everybody, I think I, I mean, listen, more needs to be said about it, obviously. Right. But I really think that we are at a danger inflection point right now in what we're telling people they need to be. And it's just sad.

I mean, social media. That you were thinking. Right. I mean, too. Listen, back in those days, they were busy telling me, by the way, wearing the same dress that I bought on my way to Disney Studios, this Diane von Fursterberg, I saw it in a window and went, I have to have that. That's so cute. I'm wearing the same dress. Now, the reason I can wear the same dress from 30 years ago is because it's biased cut.

So a four fits me, but it's a lot shorter because my body is taking up more of the inside of it. Wow, wow, wow. But the point is that I was an hourglass figure. I was from those days a true size 4, like 36, 24, 36. Wow. It's always very curvy. That's not what was they told me. Oh, listen, I was there.

The sole figure, they said, it's not the sold figure. Yeah. And then you know who they put in front of me? They were like, you know, the lawyer plays opposite us on Fox, Bost of Flackard. Oh, no. is very, she doesn't need a brand new thing that had just come out. This is so upsetting.

This product that all the girls on friends are wearing. Spang. Thank you. And they were like, you might need to, you know, look into what she's doing. And I just saw her because I sat next to them at the actor,

what used to be the Sagra Ward still five minutes ago. Yep. And there's Glista Placart. I'm still mad at her. Oh, no. It's not her fault. No. And also,

sidebar, I went to college with Clista. I don't know if you're aware that they literally, hugely fat. No. Right. No. They tortured her over her weight.

Did you know for being too thin? In college? We can't win. Can't win. No, when she was Allie M. M. Beal. She was all the cover of magazines for being too thin.

I got it. You're right. We can't win. We can't win. And instead of me going, this is what my body is supposed to look like. By the way, there was not an executive who didn't think I was hot A.F. And I'm like, I should have just like been in my body and been half. That's what I think, too.

That's what I think too. But I had people in the real world in person telling me that I needed to lose weight. Yeah, I had that too. That was hard. You know what I mean? Because I already wasn't that confident, right? So then, like, on top of that, like at fittings or any magazine shoot, I mean, good Lord. I mean, and what are they talking about?

I know. It's bad. Thank you. Not only perfect, as everybody's body is, no matter if it's bigger or smaller or different, we are in the body that we're supposed to be in. And there is no magic number. No. I created and produced a show called Dance Your Ass Off, which was a dance weight loss show.

Because I was so tired of these shows that I was seeing that were screaming at people to be skinny. This again, back in the 90s, that's when the biggest loser was doing that. Oh, my God, yes. And then as soon as the show's over, people put back weight. Because if you're not moving your body in a way that you enjoy, you're probably going to stop. Of course. So the whole idea was that. And people used to reach out to me on social media all the time and talk about, I just, if I got under 100 pounds.

And I'm like, no. Then what? Yeah. You're not supposed to be that number. So you're going to be ill. Right. And I'm like, it's not magic. There is no magic.

No. It's fairy dust that comes out when you hit that thing. No. And the other thing is that even if you do hit that thing, because sometimes when I'm looking back at these episodes, I can see my weight fluctuate, right? Like the beginning of the season, I've been working out. So it's strong. Right. good towards as we get stressed and we're working all night and I'm sure I'm just only eating

mums you don't know I mean there's nothing else happening I get real thin right because I'm not healthy right and but in my mind did I ever feel good about myself no it didn't matter years do we waste so many energy yes so so much all right so that's the lesson for today's show little girls okay so this is this is the thing that I want to know okay so you'd seen little bits of the show, but not the show. Not all the way through. Right. Got it. And now I want to because it makes, the dynamic always made sense. I don't think you can watch an episode without getting what the dynamic is. Totally. And they did a real good job. Your writer, Michael Patrick, did a really good job in supporting that all the way through who these people are.

Right. Well, Michael wrote this episode that we're talking about Bells of the Balls with at 2S's, Bells and Balls. And he wrote many and directed many, but also we had a bunch of women. and writers as well, which is wonderful. Yes, I've met a few of the writers. Jenny, Cindy. Elisa. Julie, I can keep going. Liz.

Liz, I think, too. Oh, Liz is great. Liz to tell us she hasn't come yet, but she's coming on the show. Meaning she hasn't come to the podcast because her episode. She hasn't joined us in our trajectory. But she will be there soon. Exactly. So this is a very trippy episode to have dropped you into.

Because when I was watching it, I have no. memory of any of it. Some shows I remember so many things like... This was such a really sweet and dramatic episode for you. It was. It was. You made me cry. Wow. When when you're... Oh, I hope it's the right episode. Oh, it's okay. Go ahead. Because I watched so... I watched a few back to back. But you were worried about getting the fertility information. Is it when Miranda follows me down the street? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. It's not this episode. Okay, it's the one after.

I do love it. I do love it. No, no, it's cool. Everyone listening knows all the episodes. Okay, good. Okay. Sorry, they're screaming at me right now. No, they're not screaming at you.

But the storyline started in this episode. They really did a beautiful job. I think you also, on Abbott Elementary, do a beautiful job of this where each episode is a standalone episode. Someone could just watch it on a plane or whatever and it's going to make sense, right? And you're going to laugh and you're going to get all the characters. But it made me, there was an arc that made me. But I think that's also true with you guys, right? I mean, there's the Quinta, you know, what's his name on the show?

Gregory. Gregory storyline. And you're like, what's going to happen? You know, they're on, they're off. Are they? Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of different things that are woven through subtly. Yes.

Which I think takes so much talent. Yeah. And they'll lay breadcrumbs at the beginning of the season for something. And we don't know. Right. The actors don't know. Sometimes I have to say, is this going to happen? Because I need to know what I'm thinking.

playing. Right. Michael Patrick always told us what was going to happen. He did. That's smart. He set us down, which was great. Sometimes things would change. Like, for instance, originally Charlotte was supposed to get pregnant when Miranda got pregnant. That was the plan, which is, of course, what Charlotte wanted.

So I was very excited. But then what they realized was that no one in the writer's room had a child yet. They were all single. Wow. And they didn't have enough storyline to write two. Because the idea would be to write how different they would be as mothers. Yes. But they didn't have enough.

material. Yes. Because the idea was also that they would be writing something that either they knew about, that happened to them in the writer's room, or one friend, like once removed. It was not supposed to be our stories, though. There's some stuff that seeped through, not for us, but for the men. But that's okay. That's okay.

I'll get to that in a second. But it's interesting to look back on. I don't know where that came from to tell you the truth. I was watching. I thought it was really, I thought it was really delicately. I know. Delicately handled. Those balls were delicately handled.

Totally. Just because, I mean, to connect a man's concept of his virility or of his selfhood, it really put in mind to me, like my mother had a mastectamine, she had breast cancer. And, you know, so many women. Well, no, that's okay. She survived it for 40 years. That's not I killed her. So, yeah, she survived it for 40 plus years. Wow.

But the connection that women have with how. we sexualized our body parts and what that means if you lose that, right? Yes. Yes. So I was just, oh my gosh, that was so well done. Yeah. And I'm gonna be a great actor. Yes. He's really, really good.

And it was so sweet when he, because at one point he does, he wants to get the artificial ball. And he says women get, you know, breastless time. Because Miranda's kind of like, why? It's fine. I don't even notice. And we're all watching it home like, why are you supporting him? My God. I know.

I did think that. I did think that. And she, you know, Miranda is a tough cooking. Yeah. So there's parts of it. But also he's him. So he's just so vulnerable. I was like, oh, be nice.

Yeah. Don't hurt that puppy. I know, but she does have sex with him at the end. That's, that she's very nice. Yes. So it does work out for him. You know what I mean? And later on, things happen.

I don't know how far you got in that. No, but I know because I remember hearing about it. And also in the episodes that I watched it happened. I didn't want to talk about it too much because I'm not supposed to be. No, everyone know. But I will say, oh good. I'm not breaking the news. No, not at all.

Not spoiling anybody. The scene where you guys are all getting together to take care of her after what you think is going to be her reproductive health visit. And then she's like, no, I'm having this baby and everybody supports, including Charlotte. I was. Oh, I was so glad. Oh, my God. That's good. That's good.

It's really, really well done. It's an interesting season for me. I think in my mind, because you know when you're filming, you're out of your mind in a lot of way. right? Like everything's about the work and your life is like weird and you're half the time you're like, what episode are we doing? What's happening in this one? Definitely. Because you're not in somebody else's storyline. That's true. You're not in the scenes with Samantha. We did readings and everything. Like did you guys do the re- Oh yeah, yeah. We did the read-through. Right. So we're aware, you know, from that perspective, right? And then often because we're shooting in New York and so we would always crossboard, right? So we're doing two episodes at once. Sure. So you might have a restaurant and you might go to have a scene and then, you know, Sarah or Kim or Cynthia would show up right after you. You don't know what I'm saying? So there's a lot more crossover than you would think in terms of like awareness.

But then sometimes also you could have a whole day like when I'm in all these scenes with Kyle. Obviously that would just be a day of me and Kyle and I wouldn't, the girls wouldn't necessarily be there. Right. And they would have to see it later. Right. So they're not as intimately connected with what you're doing with your stuff. Like they're referencing things.

We did talk a lot about it though. Oh, that's good. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. We still do, you know, when we were working. Like how did it go? What happened?

Yeah. Oh, that's good. I'm glad you guys did that. Yeah. Because we don't do that as much. Because sometimes, you know, it's a whole week where we have all stuff, different stuff to do at night. Sometimes we see each other. Sometimes we don't.

Sometimes we don't ever see each other in hair and makeup. We love when we all get together to do a scene all. It's my favorite scenes when all of us are doing like fast lines back and forth to, you know. Right. Like in the teacher's lounge. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Those teacher lounge scenes.

That's like your coffee shop. Yes. Right. Yes. But you have one an episode or no? Not always, but I'd say at least every other. Yeah. But yeah, so those are my favorite because then we also have a chance to catch up like you're talking about.

Yeah. Because otherwise I have no idea what you did. Right. And then I don't know until I watched the episode. Well, that's kind of fun too, though. It's fun to see. It's fun to see for sure. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.

And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called. Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down. Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jared Adano.

You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help somebody, please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor, I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice.

Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice. to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coutura podcast network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know, there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man.

They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real House Wise franchise. The drama, The Alliance is M&T everybody's talking about.

As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So for me, I don't remember this particular one at all. There are things that I remember, like I remember the scene. I remember filming the same with Cynthia, where she, where my podcast.

Miranda follows me. Okay. Tell me what. No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, it's fine.

Everyone listening knows everything. The scene in the fertility office with Kyle, you don't remember that one? You're literally. Do not remember. Lisa, no memory whatsoever. Okay. I did watch it. Was it?

Yeah, it was very hot. I'm so glad. It was super hot. I have no memory. Why don't you watch your show? When? No, I'm saying, why don't you watch your show? You should watch your show.

I know. I know. I know. I mean, I do know. Not with your 14-year-old. No, she hasn't watched it yet. No, she wants to watch it, but she hasn't watched it yet. And sometimes I'll watch an episode and I'll think, oh, I could show this to Gem.

And then sometimes I'm like, no, I can't show this to Gemma. And definitely with this. But the thing about Kyle and I, and it's interesting because when I had Kyle on, when he first shows up, and I did not realize he was on for two whole seasons because originally he was only supposed to be on for five episodes, I think it was. But we couldn't part with him. We loved him so much. So they kept writing.

and obviously things showed up that made sense. But, like, I didn't remember that it was this long. I don't remember anything that happened in this particular episode. You guys sexed it up. I mean, we had amazing chemistry, right? But, like, I don't remember making out in the cab. Wasn't that this one? Like, where he wants to have sex in all the places?

Or was that the other one? No. It's the other one, sorry. I mean, there's a whole, there's like a whole season that I have just no memory of with him, which is weird, okay? Well, you went to a relationship at the time, like in your own life? I don't think so. I was literally trying to think of this today.

I was like, why don't I remember anything? What was I doing? Maybe I don't, you know, sometimes if you're in, if your working world is like something that's not, you're not connecting it with a person in your own life. Oh, I definitely was not connecting this with any person in my own life. Yeah. Oh, no. I have to hurry up.

I have to hurry up. I just got a sign. Oh, no. I have to do more technical rewatching, okay? But I totally agree. I don't think that this particular Charlotte storyline, like I was not in a relationship. I was certainly not thinking about having babies.

You were really living through the character then, because I got to tell you, you should watch it. You do some really good work. Thank you. Yeah. That's so sweet. Yeah, I'm an expert on all things sex in the city. And I'm here to tell you.

Thank you. I love it. I love it. I was pleased watching it. I was not unhappy in any way. It's just trippy when you don't actually remember it. Because sometimes I remember everything and sometimes nothing. So I think what it was was that this was when the show was super successful at a certain point.

Huge. And we were just like traversing the earth. Yes. Yeah, there was not a day where there was not a request for you to show up. Right. And here and you're there. And you're, you know, and it was exciting, right? I think I remember that stuff more than this stuff in a way.

But also it's, I don't know. I don't know, it's like back there in the subconscious, I guess. Let's discuss Carrie. It was five in the morning when you were playing a sex scene. Oh, yeah. Oh, that was how we rolled. That was totally all. We worked till sunrise almost all the time. Okay, so this is when, so I mean, I didn't remember the billiard scene.

I don't think I'm in it. So maybe that's why I didn't remember it. I do remember that they had to go film it and, like, there was some stress about playing pool, right? Well, there should have been because there was, the one who's supposed to be, oh, you're seeing all the things. Samantha was supposed to be a pool shark. And she, like, I remember one time, she keeps saying, she keeps saying, there's only one ball out. and everybody's uncomfortable. Right.

But then she goes and like, hits the ball and it's supposed to be like a dead eye shot. And I'm like, that ball went left. I think that's scratched. Like it, I was like, no, no. Oh, dear. But you know what? She pulled it off attitude-wise.

Right, right, right. I'm watching the ball. I was like, yeah, no. I understand what you're saying. I think there was some stress about it. And this episode is directed by Michael Spiller, who was one of our DPs. Yes.

Yes. We have that happen on our show too. Right, right. So I think sometimes also, you know, different people have different skill sets and, you know, positives or whatever. And his thing was the shot, right? Yeah. I'm moving the camera. Like there were sometimes where it was like, oh, yeah, that's a nice camera move.

But not necessarily acting or whatever. And by the way, I'm the only idiot that noticed that. Oh, no. I love it that you noticed it. I mean, when you're an actor watching other actors, you always notice things. Like that didn't match or whatever you'll think. You know what I mean? I'll be like her hair is different.

That's okay. It's distracting. But that's okay. So this is also really interesting. So Big. Now, I don't know your thoughts being dropped in at this point. What did you think of Big? Because it's very unusual.

She's with Aiden. Yes. But Big is calling her all the time. And one of the reasons that I continue to watch besides the baby stuff was that. Yeah. Because, first of all, I like John Corbett as an actor. He's great. His energy is so low-key, hippie, a little bit stoned.

Definitely, definitely. The two of them together is sweet. Like, even to the fact that, like, his shirtless scenes, he's a little doughy. I'm like, God bless. God bless. I hope he's not going to hear this, but yes. Whatever. I know, I know.

Oh, he does care? I feel like he. Oh, does he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hot. Women love that. Well, he's real. I will say this.

Hang on. Yeah. When everybody was doing the stuff about, nobody cares about women don't care about balls. I have a whole thing in my comedy act about that. Well, fantastic. Like, we love you. We love your balls. They're like,

I don't know about that. And man, no balls are cute. All balls look like Winston Churchill is my point. For sure. For sure. It's like not our favorite thing. No. Yeah. But we don't care if a guy is, in fact, a lot of times women don't want their guy to be

rock hard gym bod. That's like, that's too much effort. I agree. To take care of that ego. Right. And also, I don't want them to be in better shape than I am. Thank you. 100%.

But John, I always liked. My best friend Elaine Hendricks did sex drugs and rock and roll with him. Right. And I have loved him in, in so many things. So their energy together, I root for. And Big just seems like, maybe because he's going through it at that point, but it just seems like so much work.

It's so much it. So much work. I do not remember this at all. Yeah. I'm amazed because, of course, I know what happens, right? I'm amazed that Big recovers from this and I don't know how he does. It's such a little baby man. Because this is not attractive.

No, baby man. Like, why? is she having to hold his hand like this? Yeah. What on earth? I don't know. Me neither. And God love Aiden for putting up with it.

A hundred percent. I was a hundred percent team if there was a team. For sure. Oh, there's teams. There's teams. There's teams. I thought for the longest time that Aiden was Mikhail Breschnikov. Oh, no.

Very different. I got the names wrong. Oh, that's adorable. Misha. Oh, well, that makes sense. That is his name. Right. Wait.

What was his character's name? I don't know. God, I don't know either. I know. I'm sorry. I will tell you that I French kissed him once. What? Oh my God.

Yeah. Wow. It was after the Kennedy Center performance of Giselle. I was 17. Oh, my God. He doesn't know, by the way, that I was 17. No, now he will. Okay.

Here's this. But I waited backstage because I had a friend, I grew up in the D.C. area, and I had a friend whose father played in the symphony, and I was a huge ballet fan, Timothy, Shalame. I know it. I'm a huge ballet fan because it takes the most

extraordinary amount of dedication to do that skill. And Bristichikov was unbelievable. Oh my God. Even better than Maria. Beyond. No, beyond.

When he played at the White House, they had to move the chandeliers up. That's how high that man left. And so I was so moved that after the show, as I'm standing there with my program, he came out of the stage door. I grabbed him and laid it on him.

What did he do? French kissed him. He stepped back, blinked his eyes and said, oh, my goodness, in the most adorable Russian accent. Wow. And then he signed my program, which I still have. Oh, that's adorable. So he wasn't offended. That's good.

I don't think so. And no security guy, like, pulled you off him or anything. Wow. It's a different time. Adorable. I love it. When he does come on the show. I assaulted him.

No. That's terrible. I apologize. When he came on the show, so nervous. So incredibly nervous. I mean, it was incredible for us to have him. And when he comes on the show, he's an artist and I'm in the middle of it because I'm an art dealer, right? And I have to go up and talk to him.

I remember that part from the story. You cried once. Okay, so you do know some things. I'm impressed. It was in the five episodes that I watched last night. Oh, got it, got it, got it. Oh, what I'm talking about crying. And they never let you forget it.

Right, right, right, right, right. That was, I think there are times when I was watching these particular episodes where I was like, Michael Patrick is totally writing in real things, right? Because sometimes I can cry in scenes where I'm not supposed to. And they'll be like, why are you crying? I'll be like, I don't know. I'm emotional. Because Charlotte cares.

You know what I mean? And I think that's what he was writing about. I am a softy. And sometimes, you know, things come up that you don't expect. It's not like I was trying to cry. No. You know what I mean? But you made me cry twice.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That is so sweet. That is so sweet. But anyway, when Breshnikov comes, I, Charlotte is fanning over the artist, but I was just fully just Kristen. You know what I mean?

And Sarah's just Sarah like embarrassed of me fawning. But that's what it was like every day we'd be like, oh my God, what are we going to say to him? How are we going to try to talk to him? What are we going to do? Someone asked him to play the piano because he had a piano. And, you know, if we didn't know what to do, we'd just be like, could Misha, could you play the piano? And then he wouldn't. We'd just sit there.

I mean, and just look at him. I know. Did you ever see the movie turning point? Of course. So many times. America watched that movie. America, watch that movie youngsters. Youngsters, go watch Turning Points.

So, so beautiful. And Anne Bancroft. Oh, my God, I'm bankrupt. Two, I saw that in the theater, and they both should have won. 100%. We should get out two for that. I agree. I agree totally.

I love that movie so much. Yeah, when I worked with Shirley, which were totally off the show and I'm going to get back, it was so hard not to just ask her questions about all of her incredible career. And sometimes I would ask her, I asked her about the apartment. And she was like, I don't remember anything. A lifetime. Oh, God. That'll teach you.

She said three lifetimes ago. But I also felt like it was, like, disrespectful to have such a legend in front of me and not talk to her about, like, do you know what to mean? Yeah, like, it's just so hard to figure out what to do. Listen, people will come up to me and apologize. I'm so sorry. You probably hear this way too much. But, you know, growing up, I loved you and the parent. And I'm like, you would be so shocked to hear how not upset I am to hear that you love it.

I, like, I have kids that ignore me. Like, thank you. Of course. No, it's lovely. It's lovely. I agree. Well, it's just weird as an actor, too, because you don't know, like, should I try to be in the present with her and acting like an equal, though I could never be an equal to Shirley McLean, right? Yeah. Yeah. But on the other hand, yes, yes, and, I think that when you work with people that you grew up with, that you watched and said, oh my gosh, I hope I get to do that someday. Like, it's not even in your head to be an actor and you're watching stuff that you still remember beats that they've done. You still. remember moments, right? Right. At terms of endearment. Oh, my God. Beyond. I literally cried for, as I said, my mother had breast cancer. So in that movie, because Debra Winger, I walked outside. The guy I was seeing at the time told me he'd love me for the first time right after the movie. And I'm already crying from the movie. I said, are you trying to kill me? As I broke down in

racking sobs. Like there are moments like that where you want to say to a Shirley McLean, get my daughter the medicine. Like the impact that that. at scene had on you. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And, but at the same time, you're working with them in whatever project you're in. Right. Sometimes they can't.

Right. She talked freely about terms. She did. There was a lot to talk about. You know, it might be, how about this? There are times in our career and our lives where we are fully in ownership of our performance and who we are on screen and the work that we do like she was in terms of entertainment.

There are other times, like the apartment, where you're young. Right. And you are still at the effect of the men that are running this business. That's true. That they're telling you you might need to lose weight. Right, right, right. And it's maybe not as nice a memory. That's a good point.

And I didn't get that from her. I just got that it was quite a long time ago. You know what I'm saying? And like, it was too much work for her to try to remember, which was cool. I was like, cool, Cheryl, cool. Anything you want. Okay, let's talk about the show. You're super fun, though.

I like talking about all these things. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created a. our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?

I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was, This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.

We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite, unhumored me with Robert Smygel and Friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find

clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more strong. social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jared Ardano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet.

Help somebody, please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor, I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice, known to man.

If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream of chicken suit. Hey, cream, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Cultura podcast network

available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have to talk about this. So this is the thing that cracks me up. This is the episode. believe where Big is talking about this actress that he is trying to be with. Yeah. And they at one point refer to the to the to the to the to the MTV Awards.

Yes. Yeah. So Sarah Jessica. Degraated a little bit. Right. They make fun of it. Yeah. Sarah Jessica had hosted the MTV Awards.

Oh. And we had gone like it like it was it like a side I dig or something. This entire plot for Big is relating to that evening. Okay. And I do not think that we said this at the time. and I don't want to say the actress's name, which is bad because I don't want to dredge up too much. Damn, now that's all I want to know. Well, there was someone.

I didn't know it was based on a real person. It is. Was this someone that he was dating? Yes. So look up MTV. I got my PR person. Well, that's where we met them. Okay.

That's where we met this person. Chris was there. I was there. This actress was there. People thought that we, he, Chris and I were dating. We were not dating, though I totally understand why they say this. We were at this event to support Sir Jessica. And there's this other actress there who wanted.

who wanted to meet Chris and who did meet Chris. And then there was a whole drama that we had to unravel. Try to help with. Was it true that she could get him? Yes, it was. It really was. And I didn't remember any of this ended up in the show. Okay, look it up.

MTV Awards. I don't know if it's going to show up because this is a long time ago. I know what I can sleuth this out. You could maybe sleuth it out. Let's not talk too much about it, but it really was cracking me. up that this ended up in the show almost exactly how it happened.

Wow. You know what I mean? It's rare. And Michael Patrick, I mean, like, he was paying attention. I know, but also Chris really leans into it. I was going to say, like he's really playing it,

so I guess he wasn't embarrassed. I mean, I think he was upset, you know, like felt, because this person kind of pursued him a bit and then was not available or whatever. It was some confusing thing, right? Where he was like, He talked a lot about it.

Exactly. So anyway, that was trippy for me to see that it was in there. Also, it's just so insane the fight. This is when the mud fight happens. It's so good. It's so good. And not how I had remembered it at all. I have visuals in my mind of it because it was such a very different episode for us, right?

To go to the country and then have him come and it's raining and they've got the ball. And she's like, go out there and make friends or whatever. And he's like, you know, we're grownups. We're grown up. We're grown, man. We don't make friends. But then by the end, They are friends. So sweet.

You know, when they got into the fight, I was like, as a, you know, an actor who's been in this business a minute, I'm like, we're at like 21 minutes point, you know. Oh, yeah. How are they making friends by the end of this episode? I know. And it's just like they just cut to rolling in the mud to we're friends down. Because they vented it out of their systems. And it's been going for a while.

Yes. Like they've been kind of pitted against each other because this is when she gets back together with Big. Sorry, with Aiden. because she cheated on Aden with Big previously. You'll see it all. And it's really good. But he's come back and forgiven her and he's trying to be less jealous.

That's why he's putting up with it. I got that that happened because there was a reference about like, you wouldn't know how it feels to have someone cheating or whatever. And then it's like, there's like silence. Oh, I know it was really good. Yeah, I was like, okay, I picked it up. I know. John is so great.

John is so great. But Sarah Jessica's so great too. I mean, that's a lot of what I think when I watch these, like just her, she can do all so many different things, which is really wonderful. And there is a scene in the fertility clinic where I get the jugs out

that people do quote to me, but I didn't ever really remember. I only remember the first scene, which was a while ago where he, Trey is jerking off to the Jugs magazine because we have our issues. What I loved about that beat was that you were so, you were so peppy.

Yep, I know. It was just like, look, this is a boi dog. She's got big boobs. People quote that to me and I didn't remember. I'm always like, okay. Yeah. Why are you saying this to me?

I mean, intellectually, I know why, but I don't really, I didn't remember it. But now I'm like, oh, this is what they're talking about. Because it was a really cute beat. It is a cute beat. It's very like quintessential Charlotte. Yeah. She's going to make the best of it. Yeah, exactly.

We are in the fertility doctor to get the sperm treated and he's got to jerk off and I know he's going to have an issue. So I'm going to be peppy. But you don't remember like being a little helper to him. That's right. I don't. I mean, I remember generally a lot of fun, right? Yeah. But I don't remember this particular section. So, and then, okay, so this is the interesting also thing about Samantha where she meets Richard Wright, James Reimer. Yes. Oh, yes. That was interesting. And I've seen him another stuff. Many things. You know what that's so wild about as I continue to watch the show. Yes. Is that there's a million people where you're like, oh, that guy was in that. Yes. That guy was in that. Yeah. We have great actors. You've all done so many things.

definitely. I had forgotten the whole sexism part of this storyline and it's so good. It's so good where he's this big hotel guy and she wants the job. But the way that she gets introduced to him is through this architect that she had sex with, that she doesn't remember. And then he says, well, I can't hire you because you slept with my architect. And she's like, but that's totally unfair. If I was a guy, you would shake my hand.

And it's so completely true. And he goes something like, I don't want to deal with that or something bizarre. Like, because you know what? as I sat there because I did the same thing. And I was like, yeah, I guess the, I mean, and the times were like that. Yeah. First of all, that you could even discuss that as a reason. Right.

And you could even say that without being sued. Yes, yes. But what was interesting to me was that the attitude of you're not allowed to be sexual with someone else because then I can't in my head as the boss make in my fantasy, I can't be the object of your sexual attention. Like the boss needed to be the object of her attention. Right. Yeah, as well.

I love that part. And I didn't remember that that was how this Richard Wright character comes into our world, right? Super, super fascinating and really interesting because I do feel like that double standards still exist. But as you say, it would not be stated flat out now. But I don't think it's gone. That might be the reason, but you wouldn't be allowed to.

Just say it. Right, exactly. But also it's so interesting that Samantha wants it so much. It's a very interesting Samantha vibe. I thought, I don't remember it at all. And it's super interesting. And she does go on to date that guy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You watched. Got it, got it. There's no reason to make him that cute if she's not.

Well, this is a valid, valid point. Though, I have to say, all, there's so many handsome people in the show. And beautiful. Yeah, beautiful and handsome. Absolutely. All the things. All the things. Okay. So then we've got this very, very, involved storyline with Steve, which is like super, super interesting. I vaguely remembered only because it connects to this longer thing, which is that she's going to get pregnant and have their baby, as we all know,

who's everyone who's listening, but I had forgotten the details of it. And I did think Steve slash David is just so good and he's just so sweet, you know. And he's just trying so hard to get her, Miranda, to listen to him and hear him that he is feeling insecure about this. And she's just trying all her. weird Miranda ways of like, come on. Though she does, right, buck up. She does defend him.

Like, I was happy that she pulled Samantha over and is like, you, hey, yeah, come on. Pay attention. Right, right, right, right. Because she's not paying attention that she's hurting his feelings. But then, like, there's so many adorable things where they're walking and they see the dog. And she's just like, I don't understand. I don't understand. You know, it's very funny.

But then he's very, like, kind of sweetly asked her to go to the ball doctor, as my note, say. and learns that it's not approved. So she's like, no, if it's not safe, no. But I felt bad for him. Like if he wants that, he should get that. 100%. Yeah. I thought that she was part of the reason why I think that it's so important to her to have,

as everybody calls it, pity sex is to, is because to make up for the fact that she's really not embracing him and his feelings. It's so true. It's so true. And it's really sad when he says. who's going to fuck a Unabal bartender? I know. The bartender part of that was more hurtful to me. Well, that had been the previous issue in the relationship.

Yes. That they had opposite schedules and he does end up owning his own bar. Just so you know. Yes. So that works out pretty well for him, I think. But it is kind of adorable that he doesn't understand his own charms. His charms would be there no matter what. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, at that. that point, look, that was still new, too, when you guys were doing the show, the fact of a woman having such an advantage career and money-wise over a potential partner. Definitely. And he's shorter. Well, that's true, too.

I never even think of that. Yeah, there's a power dynamic straight through that relationship that has to do with a lot of different things. You're so right. But it's also so good for her. Yes. But see, that's what's lovely about it, is that the message is what you think you're supposed to have might not be for you. Right. Well, that's Charlotte's entire, you know, through line of all of it.

Yes. Which is great. Yes. Thank God. Thank God. All right. Okay. This is, wait, I'm looking at my trivia.

Oh, Tim Van Batten was going to direct this episode. Oh, he's a wonderful director. Yes. He did come later, but someone, someone in his life died. Oh, no. And Tim Van Patten, by the way, HBO friend, went on to direct a lot of Game of Thrones. I know. I know.

All of our directors, not all, but Alan Taylor and Timmy did all the things, all the important HBO things. They love their little club. Family. Never done anything on HBO. You've done fine. Oh, wait. I want to talk about your special. Oh, okay. Let's hear about it.

Oh, okay. So it's on Hulu. It premieres May 15th. It was an accident. Love it. Listen, I just have been in this business a long time. I was an actress, a stage actress. I went to a prestigious drama department, a college with a great drama school, and did the Greeks and Shakespeare and all that stuff.

And then I moved to New York, and it was the height of the comedy boom. And people said, friends that I went to college with that were in the BFA program with me said, you should be doing this. And I just, I had a baby right out of course. college. And I said, you know what? I would be good at this. And I started putting together my material and I started doing it. And within six months, I was headlining. Amazing. Yeah, there were like, and I was a road warrior. I went all over the country doing stand-up. Well, I was married. So my husband took care of the baby when I was out of town. But then when I had my daughter, I had just bought my first house. That was four years later. And I did stand-up up until three days before I had her,

went back to work when she was five weeks old. Nursing when I was all. Nursing when I was all. I was the road and a lot of times my husband at the time would come with me and take care of both of them and I would run and do a show, come back in between nurse her, go back and do the second show. Sometimes I would have milk let down and be lactating all over the stage. Yeah, it was crazy. But, I mean, I worked really hard, but there were a lot of people that don't know that I did that. Right. That I was the thing that got me invited to the party in Los Angeles, create and star on your own show,

which my ABC one aired right after Roseanne, another. comic turned stand-up, I mean, stand-up turn television actor. It was because of the stand-up I did. I mean, that's what got me into this whole game. I understand. So, yeah, so I go back to it here and there throughout my career, but I wasn't doing it, like, throughout the whole hiatus until I got, until I got Abbott.

And then I started going back and headlining all over the country and loved it and missed it and had such a good time that I said, I want to do a show like when I'm on stage at a comedy club. I don't want it in a giant, massive theater. I don't understand why people do that, right? It's easier for cameras and cutting and easier to produce. But I wanted it to be a vibe that felt like being in a room. There's nothing like going to see live comedy.

Every single, every time you go and see, it could be the same act, but it's different every show. Right. So that's what I wanted to do. It brought me back to doing live theater. and how that felt to be in front of people. The reason I wanted to be in this business to begin with was to make people feel good and make them laugh.

How great. I can't wait to watch it. I don't mind making them cry either, but I really like to make people laugh. I agree. Laughter is really needed in this world and we're so lucky to be able to do it in any form. Exactly.

Any form. Yeah, and so there's a lot of talking about life in general for all of us, but I like to say the show is like me being America's auntie. Oh, I love it. I love it. Now, what's happening with Abbott? Are you guys on your off? Okay, great. We have another bunch of episodes. I don't know when our last episode airs for season five, but we will start shooting season six in the summer and it'll get much more of us. Amazing. And I mean, in your mind, how long do you feel like it'll go? Like, what do you want? What do you see? When we first started, Cheryl and I were very funny because we've been in the business a long time, as has Stan who plays. is Mr. Johnson. Oh my God. Incredible. All of you.

Cheryl and I have had a similar experience being in this town as single moms and being financially responsible for our kids and working jobs to make sure that we could take care of them and a very similar experience.

So when we first started talking, pilot week, we felt the magic. We really did. We were like, if ABC doesn't buy this show, somebody else will. Like you don't feel that chemistry

like you guys had. And like we have on our show. You don't have it in every show. cast. No, it's very rare. So when you feel it, you know it. And I immediately turned around to Quinta after Cheryl and I were talking and I said, so what do you, the arc for this whole story, what do you think in nine seasons? And she said, and she goes, eight, but yeah. Yeah, because I knew that she had walked in with the first pitch saying, here's what's going to happen every season. Wow. So, I mean, you know, if the business survives and we still have a business, I can see it going

That's why I love you guys also because you're such a very steady, reliably great show that is just so beautifully written, beautifully acted. You know, she had such a vision, you know, and it was so worked out. And she's so specific with all of you, each character is so amazing. And I feel so good when I watch it. That's what we love. Yeah. And the other thing that I love hearing, and anytime I travel, I get it at airports and all over

is that people say I watch with my kids or my grandmother and I watch us together. Very, very rare these days. It's a multi-generational that's not like cloying. Definitely. Like, I think it's funny and I'm not easy. Totally, yeah. Yeah, I'm not an easy audience.

I laugh. I laugh. And also I love you guys, but also I laugh. You know, it's hard to find both, right? Well, that's the thing about a successful half-hour show, and you know this. People have to want to feel like they're friends with you. Or, oh, this is like the crew I work with. They have to invite you into their home every week and want to spend time with you. So I think we've got that. And you know what? I have to be fair, not just Quentin, the writers, but we've had incredible support from the network. Like you said,

you only got a couple of notes and they made sense. The notes we have gotten have been good. And they supported a young black woman saying she knows this world. Let's listen to her voice. Let's have her voice be the thing that permeates the show. So both at Warner Brothers, which is our studio and at Disney ABC. See, this is why you got to protect Warner Brothers. I know. Where's the wood? Where's all the wood?

It's over there. I know. Warner's TV is obviously such a special place that all of us know and love. Whether we've, I mean, they didn't do sex in the city, but I mean, I know so many people who work over there. I know, yeah, of course, friends. And I mean, I spent my life at that casting office pre-sex of the city. All of us.

Remember it well. So many of us have so many stories. I read for friends there. Did you? What part? Monica, of course. Yeah. You haven't seen it.

Do you know? You know, you know. What? About the friends. No, I know who the characters are. Got it, got it. And I'm thinking about it and I'm like, maybe. Yeah, no.

But I just, you were so perfect doing what you did. Thank you. Thank you. That I can't imagine anybody else doing your job. No, of course. And you can't imagine anyone doing her job. You know what I mean? Right?

Which is the joy. I can imagine anyone doing your job. I agree with you. And I have to tell you, we talk as actors, we talk ourselves out of things, at least I do, so often like, oh, I'm out there for pilot season. I see all the people that are fighting, 47 people fighting for this one role. They're not going to, and this one came on, and I went, there's no one better in this town to play this than me. This is mine. I love it.

That's how I felt about Charlotte. And you know what? 100%. Because that mix of girl next door, you know, she's beautiful. beautiful, but that she doesn't play from the part of, I know I'm beautiful. Like, there's enough princess that it makes sense, but she's not being a princess or snotty. So you understand why she's friends with these other girls. All of that balance is clear.

And I've only seen this many episodes. I love it. It's really interesting to talk to someone who hasn't seen the whole thing. It's super fascinating. Thank you so much for joining us. I have one last question. Yes. Are you a Charlotte?

Probably not. That's okay. No pressure. I don't know if I'm anybody on. Is there a test? Can I take a quiz? No, no. There's no,

I think there was a BuzzFeed test originally, but I'm not that didactic or whatever about it. I'm going to go find one and I'm going to post it along with the link for this episode. Oh, great. Okay, great. Post it. We'll look it up. We'll look it up.

I can't wait to hear what you come up. Some people will say like, oh, I'm a Carrie with the Samantha Rising or you know what I mean. Yeah, I understand. Yeah. That's possible. But I've just never been as,

I've never been as naturally. adorable and cute as you are in person or as the character. Well, you're kind. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. But, I mean, I would have to know more about your life. But, like, I mean, you have, like, such perseverance and strength, like, that seems like some Miranda's in there, right?

Oh, yeah. I could see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could see that. And you kind of seem like you call it like it is, which I think is like a Miranda. Redhead, of course. Yeah, there we go. She's not naturally, but she is on the show.

Who is? Totally. Totally. Totally. Well, you are a joy. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Hey, guys, it's us.

The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our... We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its

place. I'm Akela Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things. As I was watching these statues come down, I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a majority black city in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslave people. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. You can have opinions.

You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program. Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.