Are You A Charlotte? - Is It You? With Bridget Moynahan aka Natasha

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Kristin is joined by the incredible Bridget Moynahan! (Big’s wife Natasha)First, we learn that Kristin auditioned for Coyote Ugly!! Then, we discover why Kristin owes Bridget an apology. Plus, Bridget shares her true feelings about Carrie sneaking into hotel rooms so Big could cheat on Natasha! We’re getting a glimpse into the 3rd Sex And The City movie that never happened and hearing some Trey/Kyle MacLachlan tea!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Honestly, I didn't know if I was going to be able to talk Bridget into joining us, but I have. She is here, the incredible, the one and the only, Bridget Moynihan, who plays Natasha, is here with us. And I just found out something incredible, you guys. I did. I admitted something pretty big. It's big. Please tell them. It's pretty big.

The listeners, yes. I don't know what's going to happen if I say this out loud. It's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. Like, I'm going to cry. Oh, my God. This is like nerve-wracking. Amazing.

It's not, no, you're in a safe place. First of all, I came in to say that, A, I don't listen to podcasts. I just don't. I don't know why. It's okay. Unless it's news related. And even that, I've had to pull back. Sure.

And I've never watched the full seasons. of sex in the city. And nobody knows that. I never admitted that. Not even to my priest. Wow. Yeah, big, big. I love it so much.

I am so fascinated. It's breaking news. I mean, it's breaking news and it's fascinating news. Okay, because I do think that there is this perception in the world that all of us actors just watch everything that we do and are fine with it and, you know, feel proud and glory in it or whatever, which is not to say that you don't feel proud and you should feel proud. and you should feel proud, but it can be hard to watch yourself. Is that why you don't watch yourself or the show?

Well, I think it's two different things. One, I never watch shows that I'm in. I see it for the first time probably, you know, at the premiere or, you know, the first screening. And then I won't really go back. Okay. And, I mean, I just watched Coyote Ugly for the first time because I think we had another anniversary. and that was the first time I've seen the movie in probably 25 years or whatever the anniversary is. I mean, it was pretty amazing.

What did you think when you watched it? It was a great movie. Right? It was a great movie. I read for Coyote Eugly. You did for what role? I did. I don't even know what role.

Some role where I was like, there is no way they're going to hire me for this thing. It was a very crazy audition process. And in fact, it was I got that right at the same. time as I got sex in the city. How incredible. Yeah, right at the same time. I honestly think I was auditioning for them almost in the same day or in the same two days. Unbelievable.

Yeah. And how old were you? And how old were you? And how old were you? You know, processes for it. Did you have to dance? Had to dance. God.

Multiple days dancing in front of like directors and producers. I know. Terrifying. Yeah. To Prince. Oh my gosh. I know. How old were you?

I don't know. Older than most people would have thought, I guess. Oh, okay. Okay. You weren't like 22 or something. Well, yeah. Yeah. I was like probably, yeah.

Something like that. Sure, sure. That's what I would have thought. That's what I thought. And were you scared to audition for that one? No, because I had this like weird confidence of dancing. I used to love to dance, but I was not a dancer. I was just like prom, semi-proms, music on, in your room, dance.

I had no formal training. So a lot of the people that went out for that had a lot more formal training. But you felt confident. Yeah. See, that's how when I met you, you seemed supremely confident. Oh, my gosh. When I went on to the set of sex in the city, I was like, I always describe it as this. Like, double judge, you know, jump roping.

Yeah. And then I, who was a Bambi at the time, really. had no experience, only had maybe two small independent films under my belt, jumping into your sex in the city world. It was like, you better stay on beat, you know. And you did. And I, well, you really did. You really did. This is the thing that I think, and this is what the joy of looking back is, you know, after all this time. Because I have my memories, right? And they're, of course, filtered through whatever was going on with me at the time and that day and whatever. whatever. But when you look back, I mean, you have one line in the first episode. But you are so

present. First of all, you're so beautifully cast. But second of all, you're so present. And you, I've read your interviews where you've, you know, I had to look back at what you've said, what you've been on record saying, whatever. And you said no one told me the plan. No, I don't know if the plan was formed. And I don't know either. I wish I'd had time to call Michael Patrick, but he's working on a different show right now. But it didn't, I think, what happened, because this was the time when we were starting to trust ourselves and our writers were starting to trust themselves.

I don't know if the plan was what it was. I think you showed up and you were so incredible that the plan became the plan. Wow. Okay, yeah, thank you. Because you were like, first of all, the way you looked incredible, but second of all, your presence. It's so funny because when I see myself in that first scene,

that's not what I see. I see, like, oh, my God, can you not smile so much? Like, I don't know what Chris was saying to me, but I don't know. Was it really that funny? I'm not sure. But I was, like, such a big smile. Right. And then you have Carrie, you Sarah Jessica Parker coming up and looking the way she looks.

It's quite something. It was quite something. Yeah. I mean, how good was that outfit? Oh, my God, incredible. And now they're still, like, all the youngsters are trying to recreate it. Yeah. And it's funny because at the time, right, me, I'm Southern and, you know, I'm conservative

Charlotte. And I remember thinking, like, what is she wearing? Oh, my God. And those are the amazing ones now, you know. And also, she looked, I mean, she could go no wrong, but this is what was so great about you and your casting and your vibe. Like, it's really a vibe thing. You have one line, so it's not really about the line.

but the way that you are with him, the way that you look with him, the fact that you're so obviously charmed by him, like you don't even need lines, it's like a punch to the gut for her and for all of us because we're with her, right? And you have, you know, like a, you're so much the opposite of her in terms of, I feel like you're equally amazing in the opposite, opposite way. You know, you're cool, where she's hot and complicated. You're cool and collected and confident. It was like Big had his perfect woman in two women. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Yes, I do.

It's getting everything he needed but from two different people. I agree totally. And also two totally polar opposites, which then makes you think about him. I'm thinking about Big. I don't know if my listeners are sick of it yet, but like for me, and I've told them this before, when I started, I would just see things as Charlotte saw them. I wasn't complicated enough to think like, what do I think about this script as Kristen? And then, oh, but I'm going to play Charlotte.

I was just in it, you know, and also we were going so fast back in the day. Remember the hours were so insane. I mean, I don't know how much you remember, but. Well, I wasn't there all the time, right? I would kind of like drop in and drop out. Right. Yeah, so. But, I mean, we were all night.

You guys were working all night. And that was, again, my first. audition, because I'm a very on-time person, which means half an hour early. Me too. Me too. I'm always early. And so I was at the audition early, obviously, and I had other auditions that day. So I had, I was like, I'm going to get in and out on this. And then they were running late, and running late, and running late. And I'm calling my agents. I'm like, guys, I have to go to the other one. And they're like, stay for this. You need to stay for this. I'm like, I can't be late for the next one.

And I was really, I don't want to be late. I get it. And then I was feeling like, why are you late? And it was one line. It was nice to meet you. Right. That was the one audition line that I was waiting an hour to say. But worth it.

But obviously, so worth it. So what do you remember? Like, how did it unfold for you? So you get hired for the one episode theoretically, right? Like just one. One, yeah. And then what happened next? Do you remember?

No, of course not. It was just like, oh, and then they want you back. But it was just. It was casual kind of like. It was a casual and are you available? Sure, great. And that was it. But I do think, I don't know how many episodes I actually was in.

Someone should find that out. I don't think it was many. but because she was spoken about so much, she's a much bigger character than whatever appeared on air. 100%. I saw that you had said that in an interview, and I thought that this is very, very true. But I also think that you don't give yourself enough credit because when you are there, you have such a power and a resonance. You know, if it had been someone with less like kind of presence and groundedness, you have a very ground. on-screen presence, which I think has proven true in your very, very long and amazing career, 14 seasons of Blue Blood, like it's incredible, right?

Because you're very, very grounded, intelligent, present, and in such a beautiful woman. That's very powerful. I don't know if you know. I'm going to hang out with you more often. Definitely. Hang out with you more often. It's my job to analyze these things, and this is what I see. So, and I think at the time, and this is what I remember and feel really horribly guilty about, because I was so in it, you know, when I was, obviously Charlotte is like this fiercely loyal friend that's one of her big things and believes in love, but also believed in Big and Carrie.

You know, I was very pro big. Charlotte was very pro big for Carrie, right? Until you weren't. Exactly. And I really, really wasn't. Which I did see that episode recently. and I was like, how many friends do that? Oh, which one I'm talking about?

How many friends say, what are you doing? This is horrible. You should not be having an affair. Right, thank God. You're the other woman. How would you like it if this was happening to you? Like, you really, you let her have it. You gave her the flip side of things.

Thank God, thank God. Charlotte does have a moral compass that is going to be, you know, in action when things. get to the nitty-gritty, right? Like she might be kind of vague and hopeful. And then all of a sudden, if you're there, she's like, you know, I believe in marriage and what are you doing?

Which, thank God. But I mean, there's so much to talk to you about. But one of the things, I just want to confess this thing to you. So at the time that you came, right? First of all, let me say this. You know, you're referring to all these auditions. I was in New York before I got the show,

but right when I got out of college, and I would audition like 20, 12 times a day or whatever, and I did that in L.A. as well. Just bam, bam, bam. Some would be commercial. Some would be, you know, guest star, all the indie, different things, right? Which I assume you were also in the mix. I am 99% sure I sat in waiting rooms with you. I'm sure we did, but we didn't even know. No, it's insane to think about, right? And so for me, I was like, oh, there's that beautiful woman and she's so tall and she's going to get it. Like that That's how I felt.

You know what I mean? Like, because it would just be all models. Yeah. Remember those days? Yes. Yes. For the hair commercial. Yes.

All of it. Yeah, all of it. And then sometimes at the commercial auditions, they'd make you go in there and dance. Do you remember this phase? I don't. I just, I, maybe. But you felt confident. You felt confident dancing.

It's a weird. Auditioning is weird. Awful. I think it's gotten weirder, though, over the years. I mean, now it's on. tape. You do it at your house. It's bizarre. I know. I feel like I would have been better at that than in person. In person, I would just shut down. I prefer going into the audition with people and casting directors who have read the script and have better lighting and who can work with you.

I mean, casting directors are amazing. That's true. That's true. And we don't get to see them anymore. I guess. I don't even understand what's happening now. I don't even get it. I don't even get it. I don't even Which is why we're here in this dark room. Exactly, exactly, exactly. But luckily, we have a whole career that we can talk about. That's right. So it's all good. It's all good.

Okay, so I want to go back to this thing that I have to confess to you. So you came, and I remember, you know, we read the scripts, right? And we're like, oh, no, he's going to come with this girl. And, I mean, we hear facts about you. He met you in Paris. Your character, Natasha, he met you in Paris. You know, in our mind, in the Sex and the City world of the characters, he's gone to Paris, and she's trying to move on.

She thinks he's still in Paris, right? Which is why it's such a shock when they see you. Yeah, at the party in the Hamptons. The rodeo party in the Hamptons, bizarre. And, you know, all of us are just like horrified. And I remember at some point, and I don't think it would have been this episode, because I think we filmed that party in Far Rockaway. Do you remember this somewhere?

I remember I was in the trailer for a really long time because it was a long day. There was so much going on. And then I had to go out into this massive party. Yes, it was scary for me. I'm sorry. How could it not be scary for you? Yes.

And this is what I want to say. Normally what I would do for guest star people, which were usually men, I would go and try to kind of proactively be friendly because it is such a scary situation. But because you were like... The nemesis. Yes. That's why nobody was talking to me. I feel really bad about that, Bridget. Oh, it's okay now.

I know, but I feel really bad because, like, we were all young-ish, you know what I mean? And, like, you were new, and I just feel bad. Oh, don't worry. Okay. But then we were running to each other at the gym all the time. That's true. In L.A. Oh, my God.

That was much later. And that was really fun. Why is she being so nice to me? She was not nice to me at the rodeo party. Well, I'm glad that I had a chance because by then we weren't in our characters anymore. And I could just be like a normal person, thank God. Yeah, but I have always felt really guilty about it because I didn't even really realize

how much I had internalized Charlotte's worldview. You know what I'm saying? Like I was more forgiving of things. I don't even want to get into it, but like that, you know, people who played parts would do or whatever that Charlotte loved, you know what I'm saying? And then I was less forgiving, you know, if you were somebody that I felt like was, you know, threatening my friend or whatever.

And it's like so silly, really, and I feel bad. No, no. But it's so, it's so interesting the things that we look back on. And I have to say since then, like when I came back for and just like that, it was such a nice reunion, right? You know, it was so nice to see you. I mean, time and distance and getting to come. kind of, you know, maturity. Yeah, maturity and growth and, you know, getting to play the same characters,

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One of the things I wanted to ask you about, because I have seen over the years that you've commented that people, meaning fans, at times, would give you a hard time. You, Bridget, a hard time for playing Natasha, even though you did nothing. wrong. Right. You mean like like because they all love big and carry together and somehow I was in the way. But that's so unfair. Like what would they say to you? What did you say? How did you feel? I think I actually said out loud sometimes like no, she was having an affair with my husband. Let's break this down. Good for you. And I don't know how you watch those episodes where she's sneaking, I mean, sneaking to the hotel rooms.

I mean, it's extreme. And not feel like, what are you doing? I know. Especially when the hotel rooms got worse. I know. Yes. Like it was like super swanky and then like kind of suspect. Yes.

Yes. No, I'm just saying you didn't root for her to stay on that path. I mean, how could you? I remember though, and this again is me being Charlotte. Charlotte, obviously Charlotte didn't really know at the time, but like, we were pro-big and her. Like, it's bizarre and interesting, but then I also read an interview where you say something to the effect of, you know, Big was in love with her, meaning Carrie. And, I mean, it's so complicated, right, but this is how life is, right? People are complicated and messy.

And obviously, they have a whole messy thing for so long. It's messy for so long. Yeah. But I also think as a friend, like, why wasn't I like, this is messy for so long? I think, I think you were. I guess I did at times, at times. But then I think also when you see your friend who just can't move on or can't get out of that cycle or whatever it is, what do you do? You know, what do you do?

Right. Like, you don't want to fail. You have to, I guess, support. Right. I think you do. I think you do. And you have to try to be there for them as they're going through it or whatever it is. But I also have this other personal memory I want to share with you.

I was in an elevator with you at some point in between the films and just like that. And I knew that there had been, so at one point we wanted to do a third movie. Yes. And in that third movie, Natasha was in it. Yes. Did I tell you that? Yes. Okay, because I know I wanted to, and I couldn't remember if I had the nerve to spit it out. I wonder, did you tell me and then I ended up never getting the call? Or did you tell me

you were supposed to do it and then it wasn't going to happen? And then there was no third movie. But I felt so bad. But then they put me in and just like that. But I think I didn't know that was coming obviously, right? Because we're just, we take so many turns in this 30 year long journey. Yes. But I, because I saw you and I thought to myself, because in my mind also by that point having some space from. being in it, I realize, oh, poor Natasha, really suffered and has had no, like, kind of closure and, like, credit paid, you know? But that's what the scene was going to be, which you kind of got in and just like that, but it was a bit different in the movie that didn't happen.

And I just wanted you to know that you would have been in our collective writer's minds in terms of wanting you to have that. Yeah, that would have been fun. I know. But it was still fun. It was fun when it happened, and it happened in a different way, but thank God it happened because it was kind of left in such a weird way, you know, what I think. But it was so sweet when Michael Patrick King called.

He's like, I want to pitch something to you. And just let me know if you would be open to it. And I'm like, yes, I would be. Like, I don't know what you could just say, I just want you sitting at. at a table and I would have been, yes. That's so nice. I would have brought him coffee on set. It doesn't matter.

Like, just to be part of the world again was just an honor. I'm so glad. I'm so glad you felt that. I think for us, we felt guilty that we hadn't like kind of done you justice, you slash Natasha. And so I think that's why he felt like you might not, you know, want to, but we really, really wanted you to. And we're so happy that you did.

We're so happy that you did. Okay, let's go back in time again because I'd love to hear about, like, the things that people remember or don't or whatever. So you go on two auditions, you end up getting Coyote Ugly and Sex and the City. Yeah. Of course, you have no way of knowing that Sex and the City will go on to be this big, big thing. Right. But Coyote Ugly, I think everyone thought was going to be a big thing.

Well, that was also another moment of me, like, not knowing what I was getting into. And that was the Jerry Bruckheimer world. I had no idea who, I live under a rock, let's just call it. Richard lives under a rock and I so respect it. I don't pay attention to things that I don't need to pay attention to. So, and I guess I should have paid attention to who Jerry Burr-Krimer was. Pretty big deal. He's a pretty big deal.

And I was a new young actor and I don't think I understood the machine that he was. was and how he makes careers and he was a major he just makes hits right really does and i think the nice thing about not really knowing that is that you're just treating each audition as right this it's all means the same right it's all an exploration of a character and you're all you're just going out there's no pressure there's no like one's better than the other right you don't know the The pressure. Yeah, and you can't ever rely on that. How many times have you done a pilot that you think, oh, of course, it's got these actors, these producers, this network behind it, and then it actually never goes anywhere.

You know, people have whole careers doing that. Absolutely. So you can't ever know what's going to be a hit or not. No, no, no. So, yeah. Coyote Ugly. I remember that was like everyone wanted that job. I didn't know that, but I remember seeing the billboard on that building on sunset

Boulevard when you're heading, I believe, east, and it's right on sunset before La Siena and it's huge. Huge. And all of us were on it. I was like, oh. Okay. That's when you, that's kind of what I figured out, when I figured out that that was going to be bigger than what I, you know, because we were just in it.

We were just, you know, learning to dance. learning to bartend and just working out with Yergan. I love it. And, I mean, did you, you went to the real place, I assume, I did the research, because I remember all that. I was sober by that point, so I was like, I'm going to stay away from that place. But I do feel like somehow I ended up there. Did we film there? Maybe, I don't know.

I'm sure you felt. I'm sure you filmed there. Yeah, I feel like we did. But I think I was going there socially prior to. Oh, wow. Yeah, because you were very cool. Well, you were. I just maybe was out later than I should have been.

Oh, listen. And I lived in the neighborhood. Yeah, it was right there. I mean, you live in the life. Yeah. This was the life. It's probably like a diner now or a bubby's. Or a store.

Or a store. You know what I mean? It's probably like the right. Right. Yeah, because bubby's moved, which is interesting. Yeah. Bubbies. Yeah.

Bubbies with the pie. You guys were going to reminisce now. Okay, so let's go back. You did. The short little one episode with us, second season, then you go off, you do Coyote Ugly, then you come back third season. Okay. And did they just, yes, you did.

They would just call you for, and say like, are you available? Yeah. So you were just doing one by one? Yeah, it was just a day player. Yeah, no, no, no. Wow. Yeah. That's insane.

And every time Chris Knoth, they'd be like, hi, nice to meet you. to be like, dude, I'm your wife. Chris. Oh, my God. That is classic. Wow, wow, wow. Okay. Well, I love Chris.

I mean, and then like years later we bump into each other in California. And he's like, and there's my wife. I'm like, you couldn't remember I was your wife when I was your wife. And now I'm not your wife. That's very Chris. That's a very Christian. Yeah. Chris was, was like weirdly in the moment in weird ways. You know what I'm saying? The thing that that occurs to me that I want to talk to you about, I mean, it's funny because we're rewatching this one episode, but you have one line, which is adorable, but you really do. It is just such a powerfully horrible scene, really, like even rewatching it all these years later. You mean the one? No, I'm going to get to that one. That one also. You know, the one where she sees you together for the first time. Oh, yeah.

the rodeo slash beach party. I mean, I think because we absolutely do not see it coming, right? Everyone thinks Biggs in Paris. We have no idea. She's been trying to move on with all these. And she's flirting with that guy, the doctor. The doctor who's good on paper, which, of course, means it's not good in general. No offense.

You know, everyone knows that. But I think that's pretty clear. But the thing that I also think is so interesting about the episode is it's kind of, because I'm, trying to pretend, Charlotte's trying to pretend that she's in her 20s. There's an innocence about the episode, you know?

We're at the beach. It's like younger girls and all kind of people are around. And we don't see it coming at all. You think it's just going to be kind of like a crazy party episode, you know? Charlotte gets crabs from this guy that she goes out with,

which is mortifying and brilliant and mortifying. And then all of a sudden it ends with this, you know, basically a tragedy for Carrie, which is that she looks over, she sees your goddess young self, laughing as you say. And literally, you could have said nothing, it didn't matter, just you standing there with him laughing and him laughing with you, because he seems so different with you. Yeah. Because with Carrie, he's very kind of stern and, yes, like kind of covered and manipulative or whatever. And with you, he just seems kind of relaxed and giggly kind of.

like who is that so just the vision and Sarah plays it so beautifully like you just feel her you know her heart just oh the awful and then she tries to kind of like hey how are you what are you doing here and he says all kinds of stupid things you know and then you very politely say nice to meet you and excuse yourself because you can see and this is what I mean about you being just so grounded and good. Like you can see in your eyes, you know, oh, no, you also say, Carrie, I've heard so much about you. Which is also so devastating. Yeah. Like he's told you about her. Uh-huh. Oh, awful. I know. Beautiful. But I do feel like there's a look that Mr. Big, it's, I don't know how to say Mr. Big. It's cool. You said it. Mr. Big gives to Carrie when they're

alone and he's like I was going to call you like there it was so touching and moving and like heartbreaking a little bit that yeah but also can I know but I like make it you kind of I don't know I mean yes yes it was first of all they're incredible it wasn't cold it wasn't like he wasn't he was he was sorry well maybe I don't know I felt for him I felt for him I felt for him I I did. I did not feel for him. Not one iota in my rewatching. I'm sure I did at the time, right?

But in my rewatching, I think, like, what a fucking asshole. Well, yes. Like, come on. Look at her there. So fantastic, just devastated, you know, just, like, wound to the heart. And you, you know, so beautiful and cool and calm and poised. You know, you're so poised and polite that you excuse yourself because you can see that there's, you know, unfinished business, something going on.

And also, he's told you about her, right? What did he even tell you about her? It's so well written, obviously. The writers are incredible, but so beautifully acted by all three of you in terms of the unspoken moments there, which is to me why you then became this part, you know? And it reminds me a little bit of Kyle. When we hired Kyle to play my Trey McDougal,

he was supposed to do, I believe, I have to ask him, I believe he was supposed to do five episodes. And the idea was that he was supposed to be, you know, Charlotte is now like, I'm going to get married, I'm going to get married, I'm going to get married, like a broken record. And then she meets him in the street. And, of course, he looks like he looks. A dream. A dream. And she's like, oh, my God, I found him.

And everything is perfect on the outside, not so perfect in the relationship. But she's still going to make it work. And the idea originally had been that he would be very. annoying, that his character would be very annoying, would be very good looking, but very annoying, that no one would want to talk to him. So there's a scene on the boat with Chris, Sir

Jessica, Carrie Big, me, and Kyle, and I'm supposed to be laughing at all of his jokes, they're supposed to be terrible, and the two of them are supposed to be like, oh, God, he's awful, what are we going to do? But he was Kyle. He was so charming. He couldn't be, not charming. Do you what I mean? So we just

shifted the writing, you know? He was supposed to last five episodes. It was not supposed to work out. And then he was supposed to be gone. And how long was he on for? Years. Like, I can't even, I don't know. Like three years. Yeah. Like we got married. We tried to have a baby. There's still problems the whole time, but Charlotte is persistent. She's going to make it work. Do you know what I mean? And he's Kyle. We had to write, leave the part about him being annoying. Do you mean? And everybody liked him. Yes. We were all collectively, completely in fact. with them. How could you not be?

Yeah. I think that's also what happened with you. And I'm going to go get to the bottom of it with Michael Patrick. But, like, I think you showed up and everybody was like, like the light bulbs just, you know, but, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, just perfect. That's what I think happened. It was, well, it was a gift that kept giving.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, what was that like for you? Like, okay, Coyote Ugly comes out and then you're still coming back on the show. You were doing so many different things. That's how I remember it. What was your experience? I don't know.

I think at that time, I had fully just, I had this perception that you couldn't model and be an actress. So I put all the modeling aside and just focused on acting. And so I wasn't really, I mean, you do, you know, shoots for promotional things and everything like that. But I wasn't doing. No, you are your actor's self on a magazine cover. Right. Not the model self. Right.

You were talking and, you know. Yeah. And talking. You know what I'm saying. talking yeah um yeah so i think yeah was it fun i feel like i was doing a lot of a lot of films at that time i think so too i think you were really busy and i think we were just lucky to be still getting you you know i think i was i yeah it was a whirlwind it was a whirlwind it was like those two projects at the same time really just the momentum went absolutely and i i

I love to ask people this because it's not always what you think. Like, did it, was it what you thought it would be? Did it make you happy? Was it overwhelming? What was it like to have that momentum? Um, I don't know if I ever thought about what it was. I didn't go, you know. Yeah, you didn't analyze it. I didn't analyze it. I always felt so fortunate to get the projects that I got. And I You know I was working with you know Ben Affleck and El Pacino And like Colin Farrell and just like a lot of good projects That were challenging me in different ways

So You were rolling with it I was rolling with it and it was just like When you step back and think Wow this this happened Like it is wild It is wild. It is totally wild.

Right, but I think as a... And I see some of the young, like, like, um, Sweeney, what's her name? Sydney. Sydney, Sweeney. I'm just like, I'm watching her and it's just so fantastic, the success that she's having. And at the same time, you just hope that she can maneuver. Because when you and I were coming up, it was not what it is now. As far as social media and the attention, the paparazzi and the lack of privacy and all that stuff.

And also the commentary. And the commentary. Well, yes. I mean, I would say, like, for Sarah Jessica, the lack of privacy was a problem, especially when she got pregnant. Like, they, you know, I was so worried about her every single day. They chased her. so relentlessly. I can't imagine. It was horrific, horrific when she's pregnant. That was when I really thought, like, I don't want that. I don't want that. No. I don't want that at all. And she didn't

want that, but she didn't have a choice at that point, you know. So I think we had our own version. I think now the thing that's weird and different and problematic is the, there's so much negative input on social media, yet social media is also really important. So it's hard to just totally ignore it, you know, in many ways. I mean, there are people who do and more power to them, obviously. But like for her age, for that group, it's like it's a way that they communicate. You know, it's part of their lives, right? And then to have things go, you know, in the crazy ways that they go, I mean, she doesn't add campaign. And then people freak out, right? Like, it was brilliant. Right. And also, that's not her idea. No. But I do love, like, this generation

knows how to use it as a tool and embrace it in ways that I was just behind on and not comfortable with. I mean, look, we all are. It's weird for us, right? Like, I struggle, I struggle myself. I try to do it because I have this podcast and, you know, whatever. And it is like, it is a whole business now. Yeah. Really. But I get young people to help. me out because I'm like, I don't know. Like the idea for us, in our generation, of just inviting people in your house to film you, that's weird. Yeah. It's still weird, right? Yeah. Like, it's a strange thing. But I think if you grew up with it, it's not weird at all, right? So it is one of those generational issues, obviously, but it is super fascinating to watch. I feel for

the young people, because I feel like we all had a level of, you know, bizarre scrutiny, Obviously, you were in the modeling industry. It's not an easy industry to come. It might have actually been easier to leave modeling and go to acting. What was your perception? Yeah, well, I think that I struggled in the modeling because I had maybe opinions or other things that I needed to express. And you didn't have that avenue in that. And then, but that's part of the, part of the reason why I don't watch my material afterwards is because I don't want to get judgmental or nitty, gritty on how I'm looking, because to me that's not the point.

Absolutely. So I don't want to go down that route. I agree. That's brilliant. Super smart. So. And it's hard for me as a, because I've started. directing over the last, you know, four years. And to have to direct yourself is very bizarre

because you don't want to be paying attention to your own performance. Yeah. Or how you're looking. So you rely on other people, but then you don't have the eye, the same eye. And you would have been maybe adjusting things, whatever. But I have incredible respect for actors who can do it so well like Bradley Cooper Oh my gosh. How? How did he do it? How did he do it? How did he do it? I agree. Totally. In front of and behind the screen. Absolutely. Yeah. So I know. I know. Affleck. Yeah. Also how how do he do it? Wait, you said Affleck. He directs. I know. But it sounded like the commercial. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry. Sorry, Ben.

Affleck. Ben. Yeah, he does a great job. He does a great job. So when you went to Blue Bloods, so you did, oh, John Wick. I mean, one of my... Another gift that just kept giving. Incredible and so great. I always love to see you. If I'm on a plane and I've seen everything that's on the plane and John Wick's there,

I'll rewatch old John Wick and I always love to see you. So great, so great. Keanu. Oh, God. A dream. Dreamy. He's on Broadway. Beyond.

I know. It's incredible. It's incredible. I mean, it's just so great to be a part. of our industry for so long. So long. And he, I went to the last premiere. I met you.

Oh. You can talk about him if you want, but I met you. Well, it was fun that you, I went to the premiere and he's like, can you believe we've been doing this for 10 years? I was like, what, 10 years? He's like, yeah, the first time we did this shoot was 10 years ago. I was like, wow. That is incredible.

It's incredible. It's a joy. You know, what a joy. And like, for you to be on this show for. as long as you have been. And then, you know, I had the blessing of Blue Bloods as well. So it's just, you know, it is. We're so lucky.

We're so lucky. We're incredibly lucky. Now, you did 14 seasons of Blue Bloods. 14 seasons, yeah. And we did have a lot of the crew from Sex and the City. I know. So, yeah, we took them. I know.

I'm glad because they had a good job. It was good. Yeah. But wonderful, wonderful crew members. And then, so Blue Blood has ended and there's some kind of spin-off something, what's happening. There's a spinoff called. Boston Blue.

Got it. With Donnie. Got it. Got it. And yeah. So. Do you go on there? Are you going to go on there?

Yes. Cool. Yes. So that keeps on giving as well. That keeps on giving. Incredible. And I'm directing on that. So that's great.

How fine. When did you start directing? On Blue Bloods. Yeah. On Blue Bloods. Do you love it? I definitely enjoy it. I like being on that side of the camera.

I like working with actors. I like participating with all the different departments. It really just like revived my interest in the business to be, you know, just getting just to another layer and another layer and another layer. So it's, it was great. Does it get boring for you just to be acting now? Well, I haven't really, I mean, we just finished the show like a year ago.

Got it. And I did, you know, a couple of projects after that. but I've got a kid, you know, I've got a kid who's graduating from high school soon, so I'm kind of laying. Oh my God, you have a lot to do in the mom world. I'm just leaning into that. Yes, incredible, congratulations. Yeah, thanks. And then directing on this.

So we'll see what, you know, the business itself has gone through a metamorphosis. And so it continues. I don't think we're done. But I think, you know, it will be really nice to, I think. been working nonstop since high school in one career, you know, like, incredible. After high school. So it's like, this is the first time I've had a, like, nice conscious break. That's nice. Yeah. So it's, it's been nice. That's so nice. I think it's so important because you can't really reflect on things if you're just going, going, going, going, going. But I also think in our jobs,

going, going, going, is a huge blessing, and you're aware of that, you know? It's a huge blessing. And, but, you know, it's, I don't know, I feel like it's been a blessing. But then while you're in the circus of moving from project to project and doing all these things, like your concept of time is, oh, yeah, that was season three or, oh, yeah, I was in South Africa on that show. Right. You know, your timetable is chunks of time with the point. poster in mind. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

I do know. And, yeah, so. It's hard for me with the podcast to people will say, well, when did this happen? In my mind, everything is reorganized, not as reality. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You don't, I'm not a linear date, date person or whatever. I'm trying to be because I have to be now.

And sometimes I'll see an episode and I'll think, well, I thought that was in season five. But it's in season one. Like, it's wacky, you know what I mean? But, I mean, it's kind of fun in a way, too, because I do think one of the joys of what we do is that you're not in one setting at all times, like a regular job. You know, we have just infinite. Every day is a new day. Right. Interest and change and novelty.

And, you know, sometimes occasionally it's difficult, right? But often it's really a joy. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I agree. It is so much fun having Bridget Moynihan here. We are going to come back to recap 20-something girls versus 30-something women.

So please join us for more with Bridget Moynihan. Hi there. This is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes. then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight. People using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know True Crime playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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