Are You A Charlotte? - It’s Always Galentine’s Day

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Kristin’s pal Heather Graham returns for a special episode.  It’s a Girls Day Out, as Kristin and Heather talk fashion, shopping and outfit changes in their cars, Magnolia Bakery, LA vs NY, and of course a little “Sex”.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The embodiment of Pisces' intuition with Capricorn power moves. So I'm like delusionally proud of my charge. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Heather, my love. Yes, thanks for having me back on your awesome podcast. I know. A two-time visitor.

Only very special people get to come back to you. I feel lucky to have you. And we just have a really fun day. Thank you for being with me. Thank you. I love driving you around in my new Hyundai Palisade hybrid. It was awesome. I know.

It's so spacious. Yes. We can just like stretch out and relax. I like being driven around by you. It was really fun. It was fun because we're here in L.A. where we both live. But we've also both lived in New York.

And we had just rewatched the L.A. versions of Sex and the City where we came in like, I want to say the year 2000, like so long ago. Wow. Crazy, right? Yeah. And we went to so many places in the show that are really fun to look at just from an actor's standpoint, like the Warner Brothers L.A., and then we drove around today our neighborhood, and then we went up Beverly Glen. We got pies at Winston Pies. We talked about good places to go. So I was just curious, like, when did you move to L.A.?

and how do you compare New York in L.A.? Well, my family moved to L.A. when I was nine years old. Wow. And then I moved, I moved to Agora. So I was going to high school there and I started going auditions to become an actress. And then, you know, I moved into the city the minute I graduated high school. I moved to West Hollywood. And then I went to UCLA for a few years.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I've lived in L.A. since I was nine. You must have so many memories. I do. Is it a good thing when you drive around and you think about, oh, I remember my first audition at Warner Brothers or I remember going here? It's nostalgic. I mean, there's definitely, I think L.A. is the kind of place. I don't know if you can relate.

But sometimes I'm here and I love it. And other times I get really sick of it. then I leave, and then I miss it so much. When I come back, I remember why I love it. I mean 100%. Absolutely. The whole time that we were doing the show, I had my house here. I got my house, I think, after the pilot.

And I remember Sarah Jessica saying, why did you do that? And I was like, well, because it's like this tree house. And I love it because there's a part of me that needs the nature and the calmness. But then you do get bored. You can get a little bored, right? I think in LA, everyone's in the entertainment business. Okay, not everyone, but a majority of people. So everywhere you go, everyone's like, oh, my script, my thing.

So it is nice to meet people that are doing different things, but there's so many cool creative people here. I have so many friends here. That's one reason why I love L.A. Absolutely me too. I mean, coming back, it's very easy when you've been gone, you know, because sometimes when we're on location or whatever, it's kind of hard. I mean, we're in the winter and it's 80 degrees here today. Like, you cannot beat that, right? No, we cannot beat that. We had a fun little picnic with, like, lemonade and pies. Yes, yes. My dream of, I feel like I was on Sex and City today. I'm so glad, and you look very glamorous, very, very, more glamorous than me.

I had to dress up with being with a fashion icon. I had to, like, kind of dress up, right? I'm so not. I play a fashion icon, but I am not a fashion icon. You kind of are one. You're so sweet. I don't think of myself that way because I do feel like sometimes in life, especially in L.A., which the vibe is like really relaxed,

sometimes when now I'm out in the world, like at the grocery store or whatever, I feel like people are like, oh, if they're disappointed. That you're not more dressed up? Yes. That's funny. I know. Like, you look very glamorous. You're like, I'm not trying.

I just have my, like, Chanel jacket and my Chloe, like, jeans. I'm not trying. That's because you're here. It's because you're here. It's because you're here. It was only for you. No, normally I just throw on some yoga clothes, basically. I know.

And the ubbos. Right? Me too. And then people are like, oh. I'm like, I'm, I feel the pressure. You know what I mean? I do. I do.

But you always look incredible. All right, let's compare. When did you live in New York? Well, I have a place in New York. Still. No, really. So I bought my apartment in 2001 and I still have it. Yeah.

That was so smart. Yes, yes, yes. See, I never bought. I always rented. And then at a certain point. You must have had a place there. I had a place that I really love right, by the park, Central Park West. It was like where the Fuddy Daddy people live there.

That's very Charlotte of you to live out there. I know, right? So Charlotte. Because I always had my dogs with me, right? So then I needed the park and I love the park. But then there came a time and it was like. The downtown is cooler, right? Oh, my God.

It's so cool. And I mean, I have friends who don't. want to come, you know, north of 14th Street and it's challenged. But I just go down. It's fine. I go down. I get it. But now, because I don't have a place anymore because my business manager at a certain point was like, that's not smart. And I'm like, all right. So now I stay in Airbnb. So you get to pick and choose and kind of live all the different lives. So what's your favorite neighborhood in New York? Well, we did a Brooklyn summer. Oh, that's nice. Incredible. I love Brooklyn. Yeah. Prospect Park. Incredible. But then last summer, when we filmed the show,

we stayed in the village. So, It was pretty amazing. I mean, you know, the Carrie House is such a tourist attraction. I think I actually posed in front of. No way. I got a picture on the stuff. Yeah, they really don't like us. They're very mad at us, the people who are mad.

Because everyone's posing in front. You walk down that street. You find people posing there. I know. 24-7. I think that's adorable. I walk on the other side and I try to rush by, but no one notices me because they're so busy taking their pictures.

But they put a chain up now. So are the neighbors they don't like it? It's not even the neighbors. It's the owner of the building. We're not allowed to. the address. Okay. Okay.

Everyone probably knows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, you know, the sex in the city got me into Magnolia Bakery Cupcakes, which I'm obsessed with. The last time we did a Hyundai film, we went to the Magnolia.

We did. We did. It was incredible. I love Magnolia. Me too. I love Winston Pie, too. See, now we're seeing the different places to go New York, L.A. And I told you got to try Beverly Hills cookies.

I'm excited. I'm excited. Heather's sharing some places, some L.A. places for me to go. She told me. some restaurants to go to. I love it. I mean, Beverly Hills cookies, which is my birthday. And a friend sent me some. And now I'm obsessed. They taste so good. They're so good. So wait. So you still have your place in New York. How often do you get there?

I mean, I try to go a lot. I mean, right now, since it is like 15 degrees in New York and it's 80 degrees here, I'm pretty happy to be here. But no, I love going there. I do. That's so nice you do both. That's good. That's the like. Yeah, because it's like an investment property as well. So different than having like a for B&B. Yeah. Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, that's so smart that you bought it and held on to it. I know. Really good.

I bought it a long time ago. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. Really, really good. I should have been so smart. But no, no, no. I was busy buying L.A.

You own property in L.A., so that's too smart. I know, I know. It's all good. It's all good. No complaints here. No complaints here. You know how there's so many cliches about L.A.? Okay.

What do you find to be true? A cliche that you find to be true and maybe one that you don't think is true. Okay, well, the very worst thing about L. I will just say the thing I hate about L.A. It's the traffic. I mean, no joke. I mean, you can sit in your car easily two hours a day just running some very basic errands. Like, that's crazy.

This is true, but this is why I need to give you my list of Brentwood things because, see, I don't cross the 405 if I don't have to. I know. That's smart. Do not. That is smart. Like you've got to get everything. A lot of my friends are living over on the list.

Well, they need to come to us. I know, you're right. That's why I got into cooking and inviting people over. Definitely. Definitely. Key, key, key. Like, just get your life over here on the west side. and then you don't have to get in that mess.

But yes, it's hard. And you know what I find interesting? In New York, there's really bad traffic. And people are like, well, L.A. can't be worse. I'm like, oh, unfortunately, it can. But also, sometimes you'll get stuck in New York. Like, one time I remember my parents were visiting in New York and we were trying to go see a play,

and we couldn't get off the Upper West Side to get to the play, and we missed it. Oh, my God. But couldn't you just park your car and take a subway, or I don't know? I mean, maybe, but we were in a weird, like, where we were. There wasn't so, like, and I think because I had my parents, I was less agile. Yeah, it's like, let's just go walk there. You know what I'm saying? If it had just been me, I would have been like, let's do it.

I mean, the upside to New York is like, if there's terrible traffic, you know, they have great public transportation. Good point. Here they have nothing. No, they do. They do. But it goes to like one place. I mean, it's not practical, right? Listen, my kids have taken that train.

Really? Yeah, it goes to some kid places. Yes. Yes. They love it. One cliche that is true is that the weather's awesome, right? Yes. I mean, of course, that we have some moments of bad weather, but the weather is pretty great.

I mean, the weather is incredible, and I do love it. I would say, I think there's a cliche. It's not exactly L.A., but it's an actress-based cliche. We talked about this a little bit earlier when we did go shopping, but we were comparing notes and really neither of us shop very much. I remember a time where every interview I did, they would say either let's go shopping or where do you shop. Like, it seemed to be what they thought we did with the majority of our time. I was like, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, we're so used to fittings. Like, I don't want to go try and close in a place for no reason. I don't really like shopping. Me neither. I mean, occasionally, but, yeah, I don't know. I don't either. I like to have my places that I might go and pop my head in that are small, like where we went today, the market, where it's like the owners there.

And it's really personal. I love that. But I don't want to go to a big store. I get very overwhelmed really quickly. I think that's a big misconception about actresses. in general. Yeah, because we're kind of some, like, we're trying to get a job or we're optioning a book or we're, you know, working on our next thing.

Yeah, it's not like we're just running around shopping all the time. No, like, that's a crazy life. Like, how? I don't even know why I think that. Well, maybe it's because you were in, like, an iconic TV show where you had so many fabulous outfits. I guess, I mean, because technically how do you get those outfits, right? You would theoretically have to shop.

But then also, I mean, I would think Charlotte would be online. You know what I'm saying? Online. Right. No, it's so great when you, like, buy something online and it just comes to your house. I mean, right? I love it. Like, what do we do before that? Gosh. Except I do remember, and I wonder if you have any memories. It just came to me. Fred Siegel. I know. That popped in my mind when you talked about shopping. Because that used to be the spot. That and Barney's. Yeah. So, I'm

just so interesting. Because either one of them is like exists anymore, right? The pain of both of them being gone. It's crazy. When I drive by Barney's in Beverly Hills, I'm like, what da? It's messed up that it's not there. That was like the pinnacle. I remember when I first moved to LA and I was like, this little small person with like really no money. And I'd be like, Barney's is like the holy grail of clothes. I felt like I couldn't afford anything, but I aspired to buy something there one day. And it was fun to just walk around. You didn't even have to buy anything.

It was just the vibe. And Fred Siegel also. I have a good 90s story of Fred Siegel. What? I saw Alanis Morris at there one time. It was so exciting. I was with my girlfriend Melanie. But she saw you, so that's like good.

She was very, it was like the height of Alanis time. And she was with this beautiful man. And I had a golden retriever puppy. and the beautiful man wanted to say hi to the Golden Refebvreepa puppy. We were eating at that little cafe there at the Santa Monica one. And Alanis hung back in a way that made me wonder what was happening. Like, who wouldn't want to pet this beautiful puppy? I was like, oh my God, it's Alanis.

And then I was like, try to breathe, try to breathe, try to breathe, because I love her so much, so much. I just had that flashback. But yeah, Fred Siegel was like the spot and Barney's was the whole... My friend is making a documentary about Barnes. No way. Yeah, and he's going to, I'm sure he would love to interview. And I think he's doing, trying to do like a TV show about the family dynasty of Barney's. Amazing.

Yeah. I have a lot of Barney's stories. I mean, we filmed in Barney's. This name is Noah Levy just to give him a shot. We filmed him Barney's and then also Sarah Jessica and I one time went shopping on a lunch break when we were filming near there. It didn't. It was kind of a mess. Our security guards had to get us out.

It was literally lunchtime at Barney's and the two of us thought we could go to the shoe department. Oh my God. Everyone in Barney's is like, ah. It was very bizarre. had tried to elude our security guys because we just wanted some us time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But one of them, Q had followed us and was hiding. That's cute.

He's got his job, right? And then we needed him and he was like, help. It was really sweet. And then we had a time where we, for some reason, I can't remember if it was the movie, they did windows and each character got a designer. And each window was a fairy tale. Wow. But our character, and mine was Proenza Schooler.

Oh, my God. Isn't that so amazing? And then we went to the party for that. And then my final Barney's story is that when Barney's had already sadly closed and we started and just like that, we had our opening party there. It was so strange to be there. What's happening in that building now? You can rent it for events. Wow.

But I think someone told me they're going to turn it into apartments, which could be really cool to live in Barney's. Wow. Wow, wow. Because you guys shot a lot of scenes in Barneys, right? We did. We went to Barney's. pretty frequently. One time,

this was really fun too. This is a fun meme. One time Charlotte is volunteering at this place for people who are blind. And so she goes to Barney's with the Burberry eye patch on and tries to see what it would like to be blind. So there's a funny little picture of me in the shoe department with my eyes covered. And do you remember the Sandy Bullock movie Bird Box? Yes.

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Audition stories. A horror story. Do you remember? This is before they had, whatever, GPS, right? I don't know if you had this. The Thomas Guide? Yes, the Thomas Guide. Yes.

You'd be auditioning in L.A. and you'd have, like, because I didn't really know the city that well, so you have this book. And it's like page 397.41. Now they're like, go to 5, 8, 6.9. While you're driving. And you're trying to like, flip to the page. It's like, ah! And then some of my pages would fall out because they were like the ones that we went to a lot.

And so I'd be like, where's the page going on the floor? Wait, did you have this like where you brought different outfits in your car? Because maybe one role you went up for it was like the sweet innocent girl. And another one was like the slutty, like whatever. And then you're like, oh, the sophisticated business woman. So I have like five outfits in my car. And sometimes I changed while I was driving, which is probably really unsafe. But I was just like, I wasn't like a good place at all of the audition place.

And it's crazy. It's like it could take you like 45 minutes. Yeah. You never knew. Oh, my God. Can you believe everything we went through it? Now everyone's self-tapes. So you use the Thomas guide?

Oh, the Thomas guide. I mean, how would we have lived? I don't know. Now it's so easy. You're just like address, ban. I mean, someone tells you what to do. Thank goodness. Like that Hyundai has that nice map.

I mean, I really dig that. I need a kind of a large map. You know, it's not going to be hard to look at because, you know, the eyesight isn't what it used to be. So I'm excited. I'm excited about that nice big screen. in the Hyundai. I'm digging it. I know, right? Yeah. Okay, horror story or just the Thomas Guy? Horror story about auditioning? I mean, what about you? Do you have one? I mean, I have to

dredge to come up with one. I mean, gosh, I'm sure I have so many. I do remember this one time just floated through my head. Remember how, like, you would go and then they'd call you back, and then call you back, and they'd call you back, and then sometimes you wouldn't get it. One time there was some movie, it was horrible, some horrible film. I can't even remember the name. And I really wanted it and I got really close. It was between me and one other girl. And in the end, I didn't get it. The other girl got it. And I was like, why? Why? And they said, she was wearing red lipstick. What? That makes no sense. I know. It was good. Like, you could just wear reds lipstick. I was like, they could have asked me to wear red lipstick. But it was one of those moments where

you really go like, oh, okay, it's all ridiculous. Yeah. Everything about this is ridiculous. Yeah, that is ridiculous. Like, it helped me see that. I think. think that's why I still remember it. Wow. Like that was like a valid, a valid reason. I mean, I feel like I would go on an audition and sometimes you could tell like, oh, these people really like me, like I have a good chance. And then I, there's occasionally you go on auditions. You're like, these people really hate me. Yeah. You know, do you remember how they would interrupt you sometimes in the middle of a scene and be like, thank you? Oh. I mean, I can't even believe that we live through it all. I mean, yeah, you're right. Now everyone just puts like self-tape.

Right. And I know people complain a lot about it, but at least no one's going to be like, mean to you. But I miss, like, connecting with people in person. Like, that's true. But I feel like creatively, when you could connect, it was amazing. That was amazing. Right? Because then you knew, oh, okay, this is dorky, but like, what was your, so did you just get offered the part in sex in the city or did you have to audition for it? Or like, what did you, what was your story? So I knew Darren Starr, who created the show because I've been on Melrose. Right. And he was, I knew he had made a deal at HBO when we were like, whoa, what's that going to be like? Because they really didn't have original programming so much. They just had Larry Sanders,

which is a great show, which I was a guest star on. It was amazing. But I couldn't picture Darren's show there. I was kind of like, what's he going to do? And they said, oh, he's going to do this thing based on this book by Candace Bushnell. And I read it and I, oh, he sent it to me. He sent it to me with the letter that said, will you read the part of Carrie? Because they had wanted Sarah, but then she got in cold feet.

She was nervous about committing to television. Wow, okay. And so they were trying to come up with a backup. But Carrie in the original script was a little. bit more than she ended up being under with Sarah Jessica's touch. So she was swearing and smoking and kind of really brash and I just didn't think I could possibly play her. So I was like, Darren, I, this is a mistake. I need to be this other girl. So you told her I need to be Charlotte? Yeah, I told Darren that. Wow. And he was like, are you sure? Because the way they described Carrie

in the script was that she had the body of Heather Locklear and the brain of the, Dorothy Parker. Oh, that's cool. I'm neither of those things. What? You can be that. A lot. I didn't feel like I could be that at the time.

But I'm glad because I did really relate to Charlotte. So then did you have to audition for it or they just gave it to you. So then he said, no, no, no, oh, everybody, one of those parts. I'm sure you were on some film or you would have also been in the mix. I feel like every woman in New York and L.A. was in the mix. She's trying to get it. Yes. Because it was so unique.

Yeah. And so great because at that point, there wasn't a lot filming in New York. Yeah. So the idea of filming in New York about like something around women. That's amazing. It's kind of unheard of, right? So I had to test. Okay.

Do you remember when... Did you have to test with other people? Like you saw other people? Other people, but Willie Garson. You know, other people for other parts, right? But not like another actress for your part. I think there might have been one other actress who I kind of knew who I was like, oh, no. You know.

He was saying, like, people that you would see over and over again. Did you have that? Yes. And she's very nice. if she's listening. She's very nice person, but I was like, oh, no, please don't get it. And we were there. So there was like men and women, you know, for big.

And then Willie was there. He was the only person, I think, for Stanford. Because Sarah and who are friends. And what about like where other people, like was Miranda and Samantha's? I think there were some man that, Samantha's and Miranda's. But I think they'd already offered it to Kim. And I think Kim had also turned it down. And I think they were really torn about how funny those two parts should be.

So there was a comedian in there, I think, where I was like, whoa, that's, I wasn't thinking that. Wow. And then obviously they went more actory. Right, right. But they just couldn't, they didn't exactly know what they were doing. Was Cynthia Nixon there? No, Cynthia was in New York. She had already read.

She'd read pretty early and she really wanted it, but they took forever to decide on any of us, except for Kim and Sarah that they'd offered it to, right? But then Kim kept turning them down. Sarah got cold feet for a while, then kind of got back. And how did Kim turn around? Like what happened with? Like, she just decided last minute. Darren talked her into it. I don't know how exactly.

I don't know how exactly. I just know that both of them, they were more well known than Cynthia and I. Cynthia was known in the Broadway world. I had really only ever done Melrose, right? So they were both more, more well known. I think back then you had to choose between film and TV.

You know, it wasn't like how it is. Yeah. Now that's gone all together. But I think back then, like once you did TV, even if it was HBO, you were thought of differently. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I think that was some of the pressure for both of them, but I'm not sure. It's like everyone's trying to get into TV. Absolutely. Well, that's because films, I mean, they don't make as many films. I know. It's so sad because I love film, obviously. Okay. Thanks for telling that story.

It was really interesting. Was it okay? Yeah. Okay. And when you got it, what did you do? Like, what were you? Well, I was super nervous because they took forever to tell me. Like, you know, you would, I don't know if ever did this in the olden days when you would audition for something that was like a big deal a network deal they had like a date that they had to tell you by they waited to like midway through the day of the final date wow i mean it was so stressful right and i had gone to a movie to try to get through the day and i remember it was in santa monica at the amc and i was walking through that parking lot and i had my cranky big cell phone back then you know and i called dave my manager i was like What have you heard from them?

And he was like, yes, you got it. And I was like, oh, thank God. But I was just like relieved. You know what I'm saying? Like I had built up so much angst at that point that I wasn't even happy. I don't think I don't think I was happy until we went to New York. And then it was like a whole world opened up, you know, which was really fun. I know.

It was exciting. And also, it's just so exciting to be able to be in both worlds. That's great. You know? Also, I wouldn't it, okay, this is just me interviewing you, but I would love to be, like, dressed by Patricia Field, right? Oh, incredible. Incredible.

I can you imagine just like, okay, make me cool. And then she just does, right? Well, it wasn't exactly like that because I was playing Charlotte, right? Okay. So you weren't supposed to be? I mean, you weren't cool. Well, yes, cool, but Charlotte, right? And in my mind, I had an image of what I thought she should be,

and I went to the Upper East Side and did a lot of research. But Pat didn't necessarily agree with me. Okay. What were you thinking and what was the... I was thinking, like, what I saw on the Upper East side. Do you know what? Which is what? Like...

classic Ralph Lauren, long straight brown hair, you know, like constrained. Yeah, yeah. But that's not really how Pat thinks, as we all know. So what did she think? Just she, wow. I mean, in the beginning, she tried to dress me in all kind of crazy things. And I was like, no. And then she was stressed.

And then I remember one time Darren took me out to dinner. And whenever Darren called you to go out to dinner, you knew that you were in some trouble. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you were just waiting. You were just gossiping and talking until. he told you what you were in trouble for. So we were walking home. We both lived on Central Park West at the time.

We were walking home. And I was like, Darren, what is it? You know, we're walking home. And he said, well, I just want you to trust Pat because she knows better than you do. In other words, your taste is bad. So, like, listen, right? Definitely. But at that point, it wasn't even my taste.

I just wanted to, I wanted her to be identifiable as an Upper East side. But Pat was so downtown that I think her, she found that boring. Right? Okay. So like, and I'm not saying that she was wrong because there is an episode where Charlotte goes back and has brunch with her college friends. And she realized she's, she's. That's when you try to be like more like Samantha and she tries to be more like you. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And I realize I'm the Samantha of my college friends. And I'm wearing a little tank top with a sweater tied. Yeah. In my mind. that's how I thought Charlotte should dress the whole time. Okay.

But Pat was way better. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like Pat would twist things ironically. Even for Charlotte. She's brilliant. She's brilliant. Yeah.

But it wasn't so easy as like make me cool. Do you know what I mean? No, I mean, I grew up in suburbia and my family, we didn't think a lot about clothes. Like we went to like marshals. You know what I mean? So when I started acting, I started going to like these fancy stores and I was like, what is this? Yeah.

Oh, I felt that way. I looked a little bit like a more. Mormon child. Wow. I looked like a frumpy, preppy southern child. You know what I mean? Like I wore wide wheel corduroyes with like ducks embroidered on them. That sounds cute. I don't know. I don't know if it's cute or not. Thank you. Yeah, it is interesting. It's interesting that we get to be different people. Yeah, it is. Because if I didn't have help, I think I would have looked really bad. Me too. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's true. That hair. Makeup too was really questionable. I mean, weren't all of ours with our eyebrows? Without like being an actress and having like

professional people be like, don't do that, do that. You know, I would definitely. Oh, it's super helpful to have the pros. We need the pros, for sure. All right. Thank you, Heather. Thank you. And I want to say thank you to Hyundai for a really fun day.

Thank you for this day. It was great. I mean, what a fun day. And you're a joy. Thanks for inviting me. You're amazing. Yeah, it was fun. Yay.

Yay. Let's go eat some more pie. Okay, great. Okay, great. Hi, it's Joe Interesting, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today, I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn

power moves. So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast, starting on February 24th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.