Are You A Charlotte? - Megan Thee Stallion

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

Megan Thee Stallion is here!  After revealing on The Tonight Show that she had discovered and fallen in love with Sex and the City, we had to find out IS MEGAN THEE STALLION A CHARLOTTE??  The Grammy Winner is sharing her Sex and the City opinions, theories, hot takes and so much more with Kristin, right now.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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She was the number one guest that I wanted to have when I started the podcast. She's a big, big fan of Sex and the City, and we are a big, big, big fan of hers. She's a rapper, a songwriter, an actress, a cultural icon, Grammy award-winning, multi-platinum recording artist, and cultural powerhouse in every way. Megan Thee Stallion. I'm like really gagging right now. I'm here. Like, oh my God.

I'm gagging that you're here. Stop, okay, let's get into some things. So Megan, let me tell you first that when I was thinking about doing this podcast is the week that we ran into you in New York. Yes. At the Michael Kors event. Okay, I'm like, wait what?

Do you remember the Michael Kors event? I do. With Sarah Jessica. And I was sitting at the table like, wow, I'm really in New York, babe. Exactly. I'm doing New York things, I'm with the girls. Yes, you were with us.

I'm with the dolls. You were with us. We had gotten up at four in the morning, we had that big event, and we loved Michael for a long time. Loved Michael. Loved Michael so much. And I had gone to the bathroom, I had come back, Sarah and I had, I think had a 4 a.m. call at work.

4 a.m.? I know. What were y'all doing up at 4 a.m.? They put our makeup on and make us act. Oh my God. You know, I know, right? So we were a little tired. Good job.

Yeah, bad job, bad job. We were a little tired, but we wanted, of course it was a big thing for us to be there. And Cynthia was sitting on my left and Michael Kors was sitting on my right. Went to the bathroom, come back, and I was like, who's this tall goddess lady next to Michael Kors?

And it was Megan Thee Stallion. And it was when they had come to me about doing the podcast, and then right after that, like days later, your Fallon ran, where you literally- I was like, I just saw them, like, oh my God. And to me, so you have been my number one dream guest the entire time.

I can't believe I'm sitting here talking to you so casually. I feel like we should have been outside having coffee or something. That's true. That would be fun too. That would have been so cute. Next time. OK, next time. We can walk and talk.

Yes. We can walk and talk with some coffee. Give me the whole New York experience. Babe, yeah. Yeah, you're ready. I'm here. You're born ready. I'll put this on for you.

Honey, I love it. I love it. Meow for me. I love the skirt. I love the whole look. This is my skirt I wore when I on for you. Honey, I love it. I love it. Meow for me. I love the skirt. I love the whole look. This is my skirt I wore when I met Trey. Come on, Trey.

This is the actual skirt when I fell in the street. Do you remember? Wow, I'm really gagging because you look exactly the same. Thank you so much. And you act exactly the same. I do kind of, I know. Don't tell anyone. Secret.

People. It's a secret. It's a secret. Okay, so when you went on Fallon, the thing that I love so much, many things, obviously, because you are number one, so inspiring and amazing and fabulous and powerful, and really just the epitome in so many ways of what we wanted to create

when we started the show, that kind of wasn't really out there, especially in television. So from that perspective, I love you anyway. And then just to hear you with your incredibly well thought out, well researched points on all of us. I want to talk about it, babe. Listen, I want to hear about it. Okay. And I want to hear if there are any updates. So

let's just rehash in case anyone missed that. Okay. So you just discovered the show when? Probably like, well, I've always known what the show was. Okay. But like as a child, like you watch it and it's going over your head. You don't know what. Of course. I'm a little thing. I don't know what y'all are talking about.

Of course, of course. But I rewatched it turning 29. And I'm looking at the show and I'm like, wait a minute. Nobody told me Sex and the City was this damn good. So I'm watching and I needed to rewatch it a few times so I could really get into everybody because I feel like everybody already has their favorite characters. And I'm late to the party. So I'm like, okay, everybody's favorite character is Carrie.

Okay. Well, no. Like Charlotte and Samantha are my favorite characters. OK, I love it. And no shade to Carrie. I definitely love Carrie. We love you, Ciara. But Carrie, she just makes bad decisions all the time.

I mean, I know what you're saying. When I'm rewatching it myself, I am kind of shocked. Like you are literally running into the same wall thinking you're going to turn into a ghost and walk through it. I don't understand. That's a good point. That's am kind of shocked. Like you are literally running into the same wall thinking you're gonna turn into a ghost and walk through it. I don't understand. That's a good point. That's the definition of insanity.

That is a good point. But I loved how well dressed this insane person was. So I'll give Carrie like my favorite character dressing-wise. Right. Well, yeah, she was very well dressed, a very well dressed crazy person. Sarah has incredible style and Carrie does also and is eclectic and fun. I like that part. But at first, I thought I didn't like Samantha.

Right. Like in the first couple of episodes, I was like, why are they making it seem like sex is her whole life? But as I kept watching, I'm like, wait a minute, baby, she is sex. Like, and she puts her foot down. I feel like that to me, she owns her body. She knows what she wants. She's very confident. She feel like that's me. She owns her body. She knows she's very confident

Unapologetic she's unapologetic And she wasn't letting these men stop on stop all over her and I'm like, that's me So I was like damn am I Samantha but then you was kind of crazy too. I know I have my crazy element Don't I I know it was like It was logical crazy. Thank you. Thank you. She's very emotional. Yes. That's me. Is it that's me? I get emotional Yeah, like it's okay to be irrational sometimes that's true So I started doing therapy and my therapy my there my therapist tells me you think a lot with your emotional mind Oh natural logical mind and I'm like, you know what? Hell yeah

Yeah, but also you're a creative. So she understands that part as well. But I feel like that was Charlotte. I feel like she thought a lot with her emotional mind, which is why I'm relating so much. I'm like, well, y'all can't count her out. Thank you. And you were super sexy too. Oh, thank you so much.

And I feel like the, yeah, very sexy. Wow, that is a compliment coming from you. The hair is always on point. Thank you, thank you. I just love you. The hair is always on point. Thank you. I just love you. Thank you so much. I can't believe we're just casually having this conversation. I know, I know. And I mean, I feel the same about you. I feel, I mean, I also did like a crash course in all the Megan Thee Stallion everything. The Megan Thee Stallion universe. Yes, your documentary is incredible. There's so many, like when you are out there chanting to those like I mean how many people are in your audience? It's unbelievable. I don't even know the largest crowd I've ever performed to.

It's incredible. It's incredible. It's very amazing. I love the hotties. The hotties are amazing. And you're saying my body my choice. Yeah. I mean yes like it was I was like just so impressed with you in so many ways. mean, I'm so impressed with you just meeting you it you're so present But anyway, I it's so amazing to feel the connectedness of the different women in our in our in our lives our cultural lives but also when you get to meet them and you just feel like the energy of like Empowerment and freedom and support of each other is so important and I think that really is the crux of what we wanted to do in the show

certainly over time and it's what we were able to do but in the beginning you can see that we're we're forming it you know so when I go back exactly not quite you know we're like it's coming it's coming together there was one character I left out that I really really like Steve Steve I know it's like nobody is talking about how Steve is like top three characters on with you I'm 100% with you. He's a fantastic actor and so good You know part of my thing of having this is to get to talk about the themes with people like yourself who just found The show relatively recently right in our very long history of doing the show and because it's on Netflix and all the youngsters are watching It which is so great for us and we're just rising

imagine watching the show for the first time like I was glued to the TV love it and sometimes I still have to go back and rewatch it like just to make sure I'm walking the right course love it love it have you seen the movies yet okay so this is what people keep telling me I need to get into I have not watched the movie. I have not watched the movie I'll be busy. I know I know we need them to be downloaded on your Asap because then you can come back and talk about it like I know I know But it was great, but when we ended this series, we thought we were going to do a movie. So we did sob on the street on our final scene, like it was the end of our lives.

But we also in our hearts really believed we would get to do a film. Now it did take more years than we thought. We thought we would be doing a film like within a year. Exactly. You just left us hanging. I know. I know. Yeah, the ending was tricky. I could literally go watch the movie right now. But at the time, I'm sure. Well, at the time, it was hard to end the show. But it's also just very hard to make a show,

like, ongoingly make a show. And Sarah just had her baby. Were people not attacking y'all in the streets while y'all were filming this? Sometimes. We had a lot of security by that point. And not attacking, but I mean, like, ah, spanning out. People were crying.

People were crying. There was a lot of security. I would have tried to be in it. I but I mean like, ah, spanning out. People were crying. People were crying. There was a lot of tears. I would have tried to be in it. I would have been like, in the back walking on purpose. Oh, we still, when we're shooting in Just Like That, we have like a couple hundred people and they're so great. They're really quiet when we roll action. It's so adorable.

Respectful. Yeah, it could be like 100 degrees now. They're just sweating. Yes, that would be me. It's so cute. It's so cute. I love Charlotte's eyes. Oh, so sweet.

I mean, it's really nice. And sometimes we have, when I look back at the show and this particular year at the beginning of the second season right now in the rewatch, not that we have to rewatch, but there's real people. There's shots where those are real New Yorkers walking down the street. And they probably looked at that episode

and was like, that's me. Y'all never gonna believe what I did today. Totally, but they might not have even known. Because sometimes if we had a really good director, he would just set up like blocks away and you would be walking and as an actor, you're just trying to tell like, am I in the spot I'm supposed to be in?

I have no idea. And just regular people are walking by because we wanted it to be real. That's so crazy. Yeah, we don't do it that way anymore. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast, Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife, Caroline.

He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing. No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done?

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I'm talking just like personally watching her. If I... Say if this was a real scenario, I would not be her friend. But I like watching the show though, because I love the drama, I love the mess, I love that you keep making the same mistake over and over because hopefully you're gonna change it for the better. But you don't, but that's the show. I mean, kind of, I mean she does.

Her character on this show. Yeah, the thing I think about Carrie, and I mean it's hard to be objective, right? Because like to me Because I know Sarah Jessica. They're bled together. I can't separate really right so like when I'm looking back at the first season I am thinking like what is she doing? What is she doing? I never thought that at the time because I would just read the script and think it was great and Charlotte was pro-big It is great right right right, but I mean I didn't look at it like objectively, do I agree with this?

Do I not agree with this? I didn't think any of those things. I was just so excited. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I love this. I just want to, you know, I'm going to try to make Charlotte as good as I can make her. I feel you. Thank you.

And Charlotte was pro big, right? So I was pro big. I'm not pro big. I know. Hey big. Aight. Like, and you would think that a group of friends would be like, friend, no, stop. You're literally trying to change something

that you can't make the sky not be blue. Okay, the sky's always gonna be blue. He's always gonna be just like that. Right, so that's what you'd say to your friend. Yes, stop hurting yourself. Like, and I had Sarah Jessica on the podcast. Okay. I tried to talk to her about this, you know?

And basically what she said, she explained him, and then I was like, okay, so you now explained him, but let's talk about you and why you think, because it wasn't her, it's Kari, obviously, but why was Kari so hooked? Why did Kari put up with so much? Maybe I don't like what Kari is doing from a personal experience.

Got it. Like, I can see myself in her a little bit. Dealing with a very toxic man, like and you've done it before and you can see somebody making a mistake. You see her hurting herself and I'm like stop doing that. Yeah I feel that way when I look back now too. Yeah you don't have to do this. You know this is a choice. This pain is a choice. And she just had a lot of self-inflicted emotional distress. And none of her homegirls, besides Miranda, she was never pro-big.

Miranda always says what she thinks. Miranda was never team big. That's the one thing that I was down with her on. Because she was not my favorite either. I know, I know, I heard you say that. I'm like, girl, you always complaining. But in real life life she's so nice. She is really nice in real life. Yeah. So I was thinking we were talking about Big. Mm-hmm. Which obviously we could talk a lot about. But then I was also curious about Aiden. Clearly Aiden was the correct choice. Oh. But women we like the bad boy like we like I feel like we like to torture ourselves a little bit.

Like if he's fun and he's sexy and he's kind of not giving me exactly what I want, like he's telling me no, like that's where I'm going to go chase. Isn't that crazy? But the person who literally gives you princess treatment and barely lets your feet touch the ground and it's just so super sweet. It's kind of like, you're so nice.

Oh, I know. Thank you. It's so cute but like clearly Aiden was the person that she should have been with got it okay and he gave you multiple chances and you still so many chances and they're still going on did you know that I did not know that you know what I heard and I was like I like to watch stuff on my own time and get my own natural reaction yeah So hopefully 500 years later she got it right. Well, we'll see. It's unclear so far. Is Big still on the show?

No. Okay. Something happened to him. Should I tell her? I don't know. I don't want to ruin it for you. Tell me. He died. I feel really bad. Yeah. We killed him. Sorry. Yeah, I know. I feel really bad.

Yeah. We killed him. Sorry. Yeah, I know. I don't know. Is that good or bad? I don't know. That's what we did.

Yeah. Y'all had to kill the man. We did. How did he die? Nobody told me nothing. I'm sorry. Did I ruin it now? I feel bad.

Yes, he did. How did he die? He died on the peloton. He died on the peloton. He died on the peloton. He had heart issues. He had a heart attack. It kind of makes sense, doesn't it? Yeah.

Right? Wow. I know. Years of breaking hearts. And yours is literally broken. Yep. That's so crazy. Y'all killed him.

We did. We did. It was a big thing. And we had to keep it secret. Were people upset? Yeah. People, I think, are still mad at us, I think. Yeah. Well, at still mad at us. I think yeah. Well at least

now yeah Damn, yeah, she's free. Oh, I pee. Yeah Big it's true. It's true. I kind of feel bad now because you're not gonna get to watch it in order I'm sorry watching that show it saw that man die. It was a lot. I would have gagged that show and saw that man die. It was a lie. I would have gagged. Listen, it's really good. Where did y'all kill him at?

On the movie or on the show? In the show. The movie is a lot happens, trust me. Okay, so I saw, like I always see a lot of clips from the movie. And he left her in the street. Yes. And I beat him.

You did. Well she beat him and I yelled at him. Have you seen the Barbie reenaction? That's what I saw. So I was like, damn, okay, I have to go watch this damn movie. You do. You gotta watch the movie. I'm gonna watch the movie. Okay, wait, y'all killed him on the new show. Yes. Yes. See, even I get mixed up. We killed him on the new show.

Was this like episode one? This is how we kicked it off? Yeah. That's so great. That's so perfect. Thank you. That's so perfect. That's how you do that. I'm glad you're a fool. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. It was scary. It was a little scary and hard. You know what I mean? We had to keep a secret and we had to film fake scenes

So then how did Big come in? I mean, um, excuse me, Aiden. How did Aiden come in? Well, I don't want to give it all away, Megan. Okay, don't tell me. Don't tell me. You're really making me have to watch the show now. That's my goal. Yes. That's my goal. Okay, I've seen clips.

Okay, great. I want you to come back and discuss all the other parts with me. Okay. Wow, Big is dead bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. It the other parts. Okay. Okay. Wow big Yeah, wow, it had to happen drama big time. Okay. I mean when you see it, it's some drama Okay. Yeah. Wow. I mean am I right? Well, it takes some time, you know, it's a shock. It's a shock. It's a shock and she kind of blames me You'll see why well cuz I made her go somewhere with me when the event happened, so she's with me.

Carrie's still toxic, I see. Still being toxic. Sometimes, sometimes, sometimes. But you know, I really... It's your fault he had a bad heart. I mean, look, I take it real personal. See what I'm saying? I do, I do.

And I take it real personal and I cry a lot, you know, which, you know, is not a shock, right? But I try to be there for her, even though she's mad at me, but it was hard, it was hard. But I do feel, and I wanna get your opinion on this when you watch more, I do feel that Carrie as a character, if I'm trying to step back and be objective, has grown. I do feel. I hope so.

I do, I really do. Because my girl was drama, okay? I'm not saying that there's no drama, because obviously there's gonna be some drama, you know what I'm saying? Like, Carrie will literally go set New York on fire and then come back and type about it at the end of the day. Like, half of it wasn't her fault. Yeah. I love that. I love that. And now sometimes when I'm watching it, I'll be like, this is what Meghan means. Yes. At the end of the day.

At the end of the day, I thought, maybe that wasn't a great choice. Am I wrong? Yes! Am I the problem? I know. I know. Yes! But you know the thing that I think is interesting too, like in the beginning our goal is never to have four perfect characters. How would you want to watch that? Right. Right? So that's what I'm saying, I like it but like, oh Carrie. But it can be frustrating. Yes. It can be frustrating. I mean, I had serious times where I was frustrated with Charlotte as well. Like when she goes on her rants about getting married and the books, remember she gets this book out. I'm never frustrated with Charlotte

because she never gives up on love. Like, that is the, that's really pretty to me. Like, no matter what you went through, no matter how many heartbreaks you go through, the fact that you still are Giving love a shot cuz some people just be like, you know, what the hell with it I'm gonna go on like this crazy rampage and I'm gonna hurt people and it's gonna be a bad person now Yeah, yeah, Charlotte was never dead. No matter how you're right. No matter how many things didn't go right

She was still like no, I'm gonna be married. I'm gonna have a baby. No matter what that's right. I'm gonna be in love That's right. She's very focused on those things. She knows what she wants. It's true, it's true. And it takes her a while to get them, but then she does. But she does, because she never gave up. She never gave up, it's true. And she does believe in love. When we sometimes, you know, people in the street

or whatever, because of the podcast, they'll say like, you know, how do you define Charlotte? And I'm like, well, do you believe in love? That's question number one, yes. It's very important. She keeps me optimistic. Oh, that's nice. That's nice No matter how bad relate many bad relationships I go through. I'm not gonna give up on love. Yeah, Megan

Me neither and it's not easy man. Yeah, not easy But let me ask you this so you were 29 when you watched it. Mm-hmm And at first you didn't like Samantha, but then you kind of thought maybe I am Samantha Yeah, and then you kind of have your mixed feelings about Carrie you love Charlotte But obviously Charlotte would be your bestie because I'm emotional and all. Me, I, Charlotte. And Miranda, not so much because she's negative.

Yes. And did you ever change your opinion as time has gone by? You know, not that that was time has gone by. I have always felt the same way about Carrie. Samantha, I still love. Got it. Charlotte, I still love. Miranda, I'm still scratching my head.

Okay. Why are you so mean? What did Steve really ever do to you? Yeah, besides try to love you. It's true. You just kept kicking them. Yeah, I feel really bad now What we've been doing You can have some strong feelings With Steve. Yes. Is he on the show too? Uh-huh. We love Steve. Y'all got Steve on the show? Yeah baby. Okay yeah I'm hooked right after this I'm going to watch. Yay but you got you probably need to watch the movie. Okay. I mean at least the first movie. The movie has very the

first movie has very important relationship things that happen. The second movie we go to Abu Dhabi though we actually filmed it in Morocco. Okay. So it was kind of an odd road trip type movie in the desert. It's very interesting. I'm sure you've been to these places. My girls are out of the city. We are out of the city big time. And then people were mad like, why did you go out of the city? Because I'm a human being. Exactly. And because we were doing the second movie and they told us we had to make it more worldly so that it would play in the different markets.

You know what I'm saying? Cool, the whole world lives in New York. That's true too. People from all over the world. This is a good point, this is a good point. And we kind of lost that track for a second, but we're back, we're back now. And now we never leave New York and just like that.

I mean, maybe we went to the, wait, did we leave New York? No, I don't even know. No, we did leave for a second, we went to the beach. And this season? Last season, last season, Carrie goes on a trip. OK. Briefly, briefly. OK.

Just for fun. Let me just watch the show. Yeah, yeah, baby. You got to watch the show. I got to keep up. ["The Daily Show Theme"] I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast, Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives.

You're going to want to divorce me. Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing. No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies,

and quite frankly, I question how many other women may bring forward allegations in the future. This season of Betrayal investigates one officer's decades of deception. Lies that left those closest to him questioning everything they thought they knew. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist,

Denity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions.

So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamor.

It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. To most people, I'm the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. Voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's more than personal. It's political.

It's societal. And at times, it's far from what I originally intended it to be. These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together.

How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high. And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you obsessed with true crime? Then you're going to love true crime tonight. I'm Boddie Movin.

You might remember me from the Emmy award winning documentary, Don't F with Cats. I'm Courtney Armstrong, a host of the number one podcasts, The Piked and Massacre and The Idaho Massacre. And I'm Stephanie Lidecker. I head up K2 Studios where we make true crime podcasts and documentaries and now we're even making movies. We've all worked together for years and now we're even making movies. We've all worked together for years, and now we're trying something brand new.

We're unpacking all the latest true crime headlines with our team of experts. We'll be covering all the major trials that are heating up this summer, and there's a lot. And yes, we'll also be covering some of the scandals that we're all obsessed with. And you need to join the conversation. True crime tonight.

We're talking true crime all the time. He pulls out of his backpack, syringes, and tries to inject her. What? It's bizarre. It's completely bizarre, and they have to investigate it. Listen to true crime tonight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,

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when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Inc. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. or five and six on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple podcasts. Let me ask you about other characters. So we know you love Steve. How did you feel about Trey? I don't feel anything about Trey.

Wow, nothing. I don't feel a thing. Flat. Yeah. Okay. So you didn't feel anything about Trae. Wow, nothing. I don't feel a thing. Flat. Yeah. Okay, so you didn't feel like, oh, I want Charlotte to have this workout. You didn't care. What's my bald head guy?

Harry. Yeah. You like Harry? I like Harry. Good, Harry is real, he's real. Trae, I don't really, yeah, nothing about Trae. I feel nothing about Trae. Okay, those cheekbones didn't talk to you.

Nope. Got it, got it, got it. This is very interesting, very interesting. I feel nothing about Trey. Wow, now for Samantha, did you want her to, like when she gets together with Smith Jarrett, the really handsome model. Yes, I was very happy about that.

Right, he was good, wasn't he? He was great. I thought he was great. I really liked when he cut his hair off too. I was crying. I know. Like I cried, I was good, wasn't he? He was great. I thought he was great. I really liked when he cut his hair off too. Oh. Like, I was crying. So good. I know.

I cried. I was like, whoa, Samantha, you better not mess this up. I know it. Because he loves you. Yeah. As much as you love yourself. Totally. So babe, this is your man.

100%. So I like that they were able to get together. I like that they kept them together. I can't really remember what happened at the end. It doesn't end. I think it goes to the movies. I think it goes to the movies. They stayed.

Well, no. No, I'm saying at the end of the season, I feel like they were still together, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Because she just shaved her hair. She has no hair when we end the season. You know how they killed Samantha, did y'all?

No! Okay. I was about to say no. We would never. Okay, now. No, we would never. No, we would never. You better not. No, we would never. No, we would never. You better not. No, ma'am.

Okay. No. I feel like she is, and probably at that time too, like was saying things that women were scared to say. 100%. Behaving the way women wish they could act in public. Correct. I feel like she is just like everybody's alter ego.

Absolutely. And people really embrace that and love her and feel empowered by her. I feel like Samantha walked so a lot of us could run. 100% baby, I love that, I love that. I mean, she's an incredible character and I did not really necessarily even realize the extent of that until rewatching.

Yeah, she's very empowering. Yeah, which is a beautiful thing. I like the way she owns her sexuality 100% and when I first like I say when I first watched it I was like why are they making it seem like her life revolves around sex right and then as we keep going and we keep Hearing her speak. She's so well spoken. Yeah, I just like that. She's in charge. I'm very fashionable Absolutely, did you get to keep the outfits? Yeah, that is a pressing question. Yes, mostly. Mostly. Though, what happened in the beginning, we had like no budget in the beginning. When I had, yeah, we had ten thousand dollars for the entire first season.

For clothes? Yep. Sarah Jessica just told me this the other day. It was great. I know, they did it. Good job. But did you ever hear of a store, Century 21, it used to be in New York, it had like all the high, high, high fashion things would end up there when no one else could sell them. And y'all's clothes ended up there? Yep, no, no, no, we would buy clothes there. Because we had no budget. Really? Okay, wow.

This is in the beginning, because no one knew what the show was. And what was the hair budget? We had really good hair people. Yes, because y'all's hair was always on point. Thank you, thank you. But especially yours, you're actually like on a lot of my Hair Inspo mood boards.

Yes. Oh my God. I love like the sexy blowout. Thank you. And you're still rocking it right now. Oh my God. This is my own like not living up. Oh my God.

Thank you, Megan. Oh my God. I'm very, very cool. Definitely Hair Inspo. Wow. Wow. Thank you so much. I mean, your Hair Inspo.

My daughter also really wanted me to tell you hi and she loves you. She's 13. Hi! What's her name? Gemma. Hey Gemma! Hi! She's gonna be very excited. I shouldn't have said that in the middle, but who cares? We had, we had in the beginning the thing that was interesting about the fashion was we had this woman, Pat Field, who had a store downtown. It was very much like a downtown

pip, super, super, almost like basement level downtown person, into the art scene, into all kinds of cutting edge stuff, and had never done a TV show. So Sarah Jessica had worked with her before and brought her in, and she just didn't want to play by the rules, which was what we needed. And really did things differently. But it took a while for us to make our name in terms of what we were doing and what we were trying to do and get a Lending situation going on with the designers was the show like controversial at first yeah Yeah, yeah, people wrote all kind of crazy reviews when they were like hell no get this off TV

Yeah, they were like who are these women? Why are they talking like that and one of them maybe one of the like the Wall Street Journal or one of those ones? said You know I wouldn't want to date any of these women Maybe one of the Wall Street Journal or one of those ones said, you know, I wouldn't want to date any of these women. Except for Charlotte. Exactly. Like that was our goal. As if you had an option. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.

It was generally just like, blah. But over time that changed. So like when we started, we never, we didn't, Sarah Jessica didn't even think about success. She just told me this other day, which I think is so interesting. I thought that we could be like a kind of like a little cult show, you know, like a little following, you know. Y'all do have a cult following though. Definitely, definitely.

But we didn't have any idea what it would be, right? And we didn't have any idea that that we would be nominated for Emmys and win Emmys and all that stuff. Like we had no idea. We were super shocked. It was, it was cool that it shifted from being like this kind of weird, what is it? Is it, you know, a late night porn show?

Like people didn't know at the beginning. I didn't realize that so many boobs were on there. Like, I know, right? Watching it back, I'm like, wow, this HBO, yeah. That's right. We could. I didn't realize y'all were showing that much boob. I know, I know, and saying all kind of crazy things.

Yeah, I didn't realize how much y'all said the P word. Oh, I know. Oh, I know. I can only say the P word when I'm rapping. I was going to say, I think you also say the P word. I say the P word, but only when I'm rapping. Really, so not just conversationally? No, I just don't say it. Yeah, me neither, really. No, me neither, really.

It's a hard... Yeah, yeah, but when you're rapping, is it just like a... I say coochie. Coochie, that's adorable. Wait, what happens when you're rapping? Is it like how when Beyonce... I turn into a whole nother person. Got it! Like, I'm just...

I'm so tough in the booth, it's crazy. Wow. Yeah, but I don't say that peat word in real life. Interesting, I don't say either. Sorry to burst y'all's bubble. That's okay. I think it's more interesting to have that kind of internal conflict going on. I feel like it's a bad word. I think it's more interesting to have that kind of internal

Conflict going on. I feel like it's a bad word. I do too. It's a great word It's a powerful word strong word powerful word Pat fields favorite compliment to give I'm gonna say it cuz we complete that out was Yes, yes, but see like sometimes people I feel like the C word saying the C word Yeah, and as an insult you can't say it. No, that's not cool. But she like, you're giving, like yeah, that's cute. That is cute. That's letting you know, baby, you're cute. She has a very deep voice.

She kind of talks like this, so she'd be like, she. You'd be like, okay. That's me. I'm giving. I know. I love it. I love it. I mean, again, it's about whether you own it.

Like if you own that, that's powerful. Yeah. Right? We took the word back. Yeah, let's love it. I love it. I mean, again, it's about whether you own it. Like if you own that, that's powerful. Yeah. We took the word back. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Okay, so wait, are you a Charlotte? I'm a Charlotte, babe. This is Megan Thee Stallion and I am a Charlotte.

Wow. I did not think you were gonna say yes. Okay, great. I like that mix. I'm a Shamantha. A Shamantha. I love that. I love that. I did not think you were gonna say that. Wow. A Shamantha? Yeah. I love that. I love that.

I did not think you were going to say that. Has somebody said no? Yeah. They're lying. But I'm Shamantha. I'm both. I dig it. I dig it, baby.

My next thing that I'm going to manifest is walking in the scene on the show. Baby, we'd love to have you. Somebody call me, get me in there. Yes. So I can just be the Shamantha that y' Baby, we'd love to have you. Somebody call me, get me in there. Yes, yes. So I can just be the Samantha that y'all need. I wanna have you. I wanna have you. Please.

Please be with us. Y'all heard me? Yeah. I'm coming. We'll do it. Don't kill me on the peloton. We would never. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast, Betrayal.

Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future.

Listen to Betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there.

Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day, covering the Diddy trial on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships.

It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to voiceover on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you obsessed with true crime? Then you're going to love true crime tonight.

I'm Bonnie Movin. I'm Courtney Armstrong. And I'm Stephanie Lidecker. We've all worked together for years, and now we're trying something brand new. We're unpacking all the latest true crime headlines. We'll be covering all the major trials that are heating up this summer.

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