Are You A Charlotte? - Meghan Trainor! Meghan Trainor reveals how she IS a Charlotte... (S4 E6 "Baby, Talk Is Cheap")

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

She IS a Charlotte!The talented and fabulous Meghan Trainor joins Kristin for a little Sex and the City.Meghan reveals that she has mixed feelings about Trey and why, at times, she loves him.Kristin (...and Charlotte) understand as Meghan opens up about “mom group” drama.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Vodam. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo.
Starting point is 00:00:42 My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hanging. Hang in there. Yeah, it would not be...
Starting point is 00:01:05 Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Ellen's, correct?
Starting point is 00:01:26 I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the... the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Ranchini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 10 shots five, City Hall building. How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder. This is one of the most dramatic events that really ever.
Starting point is 00:02:05 happened in New York City politics. I scream. Get down. Get down. Those are shots. A tragedy that's now forgotten. And a mystery that may or may not have been political. That may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach, murder at City Hall on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Megan Trainers here, you guys. Oh, hi. It's exciting.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I'm excited to be here. Before we started rolling, which really my bad, okay, because it's a podcast and we're supposed to just record everything we say, but we were saying that she said to me, I feel like I've known you my whole life. And I said, oh, and then I said, it's such a nice feeling when you rewatch the show because I was traveling a bit and I was out, you know, not doing the podcast, thus not rewatching. And then I, this morning watched two episodes. And I was like, oh, it feels so good to be with us. It feels like you're back with your friends. Right? Which I haven't had, like, I haven't had, I've never had, like, it's us four girls, like, friendship groups like that in a long time.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah, me too. And so you guys are my friends. Thank you. I mean, it's really just such a gift. It's such a gift to be a part of something like that. Yeah. Because isn't this the episode where we, she does her first email? Carrie does her first email?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah. I mean, were you dying watching that? Yeah, I was cracking up. I was like, so far, I don't even like emails. I know. It's so crazy. And it made me think about like the timelessness of the stories, right? Because we know that feeling with text messages.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Exactly. Like every, like all the technology around it changes, yet the relationship issues stay the same. They're the same. To where it's completely relatable watching the episode, even for me. And I was part of it 80 million hundred years ago. But yet I'm reliving it again with all different thoughts in my head based on life like in the last decade. Yeah. And how he didn't even like notice that he.
Starting point is 00:04:08 even got an email. He's like, oh, I think I trashed. I don't know. I know. It's so funny. Yeah, that's like us seeing if it's on red or not. Like seeing if they're red or not. Like, do you see me pour my heart out to you or not? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's so adorable. But also makes you think about like time and the changes in society. Yeah. So many changes. Things are so different in some ways. But yet the basic issues are still the same. Exactly. Relationships. It's super fascinating. Relationships. Marriage, babies. Charlotte's got this whole plan. The baby.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That she wanted a baby. Oh, it's sad. I'm so sad. I am Charlotte, if you wanted to know. It's me. I know. It's me. I mean, look, you're dressed so.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You're like a modern, beautiful Charlotte right now. You're very together. Riddled with anxiety. Are you? So, like, empath. And I'm like, I'll take on everyone else's stuff. It's fine. And I want to be really cool, but I'm just trying.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And I'm just corky. but like sometimes want to be fierce and stuff. Like I feel like Charlotte is. I love it. I love it all. I love it all. I really have to her the most for sure. Oh, the whole time? Yeah, the whole time.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Did you ever have doubts? Like maybe I'm Carrie or maybe I am. No, Carrie's too cool for me. But also she makes reckless choices that I just, I'm like, I'm smarter than that. Like, I'm out. Interesting. I wish. I write a lot of songs where I am Samantha, but I'm not in real life.
Starting point is 00:05:34 But that's like a dream of mine, like a fantasy. You channel it. Yeah. I want to channel that like someday I'm in the the I'm in the with my husband right now we have five two and a two month year old. So our life isn't sexy at all. I understand. So we're not like we're not Samantha in the bedroom right now. Of course.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And that's okay. And that's okay. Yeah. I've learned in marriage counseling that that's so normal. Yeah. Because when you don't know how common and normal it is because not a lot of people talk about it, you're like, are we broken? And you're like, oh no, we're just sleepy. Of course.
Starting point is 00:06:06 You're really sleepy. Of course. We've put more effort into that, but I know I also fantasize one day when they're older that, like, me and my husband will get to a Samantha phase. I think that's so much fun. I mean, I can't wait for that. It's going to be great. Everyone needs that, I think. And that's why she's such a great character.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Yeah. Because she's so unapologetically. You know, I love sex. Yeah. I want sex. I'm not going to get to attached. We have just. And she's like, it's for me.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Exactly. Which is so great. Which is so great. And I think it's interesting in terms of Samantha to think about, you know, are there other characters since then and kind of not. Yeah, no. Honestly. Right? Which is weird.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Even like my boob job I just got after having my babies, I. Congratulations. This thing goes, oh, I got a lift and a small implant in there so they could be round and even for the first time of my life. Wow. But I always made sure I told everyone that this is not for my husband. This was for me. Right, right, right. This is for me to feel hotter in my own skin.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And it did. Like, I can wear a bra and not duct tape myself to my shoulders. Amazing. And that makes me dance better and feel more confident in all my videos. I mean, also, you have to perform and you're in a very intense business. I mean, sometimes I worry, and I don't know because I'm from the outside, like, as much as acting is similar, it's very different from music. And I feel like for women in music, the pressure to be like hypersexual and diva and all of these things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Do you feel that? It gets in your head for sure. Yeah. When I'm writing an album, they're like, what's it about? What are you going through? And I was like, I'm different than every other pop star right now. I'm wiping boogers and butts all day. So like, I guess I want my music to be the diva girl.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I feel like Hannah Montana a lot where I get to be mama at home and like very humbled by my children. and then I get to go on stage and be full diva pop star. Right. So, but it's, it's a confusing lane. And people are like, aren't you so confident and badass all the time? And I'm like, no, I'm mostly like crying and wiping butts. Like, I'm mostly like, if you saw me at home, I'm playing pirates. Like, I'm a dork at home.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Which is amazing. But that's so great that you can have that because I feel like I worry when I don't want to say anyone's name. But there are people I worry about who are young who get kind of. pushed into this lane of like diva hypersexualized, you know. I see that a lot too. And then I think maybe because I'm a mom and have kids and want to watch the music videos, I'm like, oh, we're not going to watch this one. Change it.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Right. It's hard. I'm feeling that change. And I'm like, oh, man, that's a bummer because, like, their music is so good and they're so talented. But like, I can't play that right now for my kids. No, it's true. It's a real thing.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I mean, my eight-year-old does not know what the things mean. Yeah. You know, which is fine, right? but like he loves the music but then I can't, you know, if he's on the iPad and something comes up and he's going to watch a video, I'm like, nah! Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have to sit with that.
Starting point is 00:09:06 How did this happen? Like, it's so interesting. My kid had a phase of loving the weekend and there's a full music video where the weekend's teeth are bleeding, his nose is bleeding, he's driving a car in Vegas. Very scary. And obviously, like, it's him doing drugs and, but my, Riley is like, he's like a vampire.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Wow. Yes, he's a vampire. And I just lied to him. My son had a whole thing where he loved 21 Savage. No way. Tesla felt the need to have this Tesla countdown and 21 Savage was on the Tesla countdown. I didn't know who 21 Savage was or what he was singing about, but it has such a good beat, right? And I think, get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And he was like young, like six or something. He did not know what he's talking about. He does not know what the click, click sound is. He doesn't know anything, right? But then there came a time. My nanny looked at me. and I was like, hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Like, we should probably just nip it in the bud. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's hard. It's hard. Like, culturally, it's hard that things have gotten so kind of escalated. You know, in music, especially, I feel like, because you can keep the R-rated movies from them pretty easily, you know? But the music, I don't feel like it's just everywhere.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It's everywhere, yeah, true. But then for you, I feel you have this incredible marriage in these kids, and that's very grounding, I would think. And that's incredible because I don't worry, like, when the people don't have the grounding side, I worry what's going to happen. Yeah. Because you can't keep the other thing going forever. But it's also a confusing given poll where I sat with my managers the other day. And I was like, should I even be doing this pop star stuff?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Or should I be like writing just kids' albums for, like, music for children's albums? And I was told like, well, you can't do both. You can't do this music video and have your boobs out and then sell a children's album. Oh, no. He said that to me. That's not fair. I was like, but why? Why can't I do anything?
Starting point is 00:11:01 I agree. I was pissed. I think I'm going to do your children's album after this. I would totally buy your children's album. Thank you so much. Like, why can't you do both? I agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I think that's also like the interesting thing about women being kind of pigeonholed and put into a box. You know, yeah, a box or whatever they want you to be. Right. And why? I don't know. Why can't we be everything? I know.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Right? And the comment sections are so much. mean nowadays. I don't look at the comment sections. I don't go in there. You don't go in there? Tell myself, I have occasionally, but I try really hard not to. Is it tough for you?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Because you guys had like magazines and mean stuff written anywhere. We did. We did for a long time. Or is it better? Different, different, I guess. I mean, back in the olden days, it would be hard because it was like in the grocery store, right? Like big, you know, headlines or whatever, you know, about whatever they were.
Starting point is 00:11:56 in a fuss about that week. You know what I'm saying? And my mom would always say like, oh, I saw blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'd be like, Mom. My mom has me on Google alerts. Right. I don't think my mom understands Google alerts, but right, you have to not do that. I was like, Mom, if I stop, you had to stop with me.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And she's like, well, it's just in case. And I'm like, just against what? Right. In case something happens. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I think they worry, right? Which I totally understand.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But I had to say to my mom, like, they don't always know what they're talking about. Right. Like you really, really have to not believe. them. She'd call very concerned about, you know, my girlfriend's, like, what's happening? And I also went through a long phase of being really concerned about my girlfriends also, right? Like, not so much about me, but like, what were they saying about my friends? Yeah. Which is kind of worse. Oh, yeah. Like, you want to save them. I was just in one of those. My mom grew up and it was everywhere. Yeah, what on earth? What happened with that? And it was so many stories. And I didn't even see
Starting point is 00:12:50 these girls for like over a year. So I was like, but I like keep in touch because I like was working so much. that I slowly like faded away from the crew. Well, that was my thought was like, how do they maintain that with the kids and the careers? They all worked way more than I did. So I was like, I'm not like worked together to like plan trips and be together and include everyone. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:09 That's impressive. I love you all so much. I'm not going to make it to all these. I'm tired. Right. Or I would tour for three months and be like, T-Doo- Oh my God, I can't imagine. But yeah, even seeing all that.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. Like our names got dragged all together and it's just like easy- Why do people want to be negative like that? Mine? Someone's in me, they were like, well, everyone's hating on Megan Traynor right now, so I bet she's the bully. And I was like, excuse me? I was like, I'm not even here. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:34 It's, I now, like, have been hit so much that you're like, you kind of laugh and you're like, well, silly. It's true. But I also feel for those girls who are human beings that I can text and be like, well, this sucks. Right. And we're all typing like, yeah, sucks, but it's our life. But there's a lot of moms in that group that weren't famous.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Right. Or like, I was ungoogulable. And now I'm out there everywhere. Like you can. It's horrible. And they were heartbroken. I just don't even understand. I feel the need for negativity.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And that's one thing that I do feel is worse, was that it used to just be kind of a handful of magazines, right? And you kind of knew the players and you knew that one might be positive and one might be negative. Right. So it would kind of even out. Now it can really like the trend can be like a wave, right? Yeah. Where you actually didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:14:22 anything, it's just how it's getting reported. Yep. That is not actually accurate, but then it's very, very hard to stop that. Yeah. Like how do you stop a wave? Everyone's like a journalist now. Right. And everyone's,
Starting point is 00:14:33 yeah, absolutely. Everyone's opinion gets like blasted, right? So I think it's really hard. I think it's really hard the kind of like massiveness of it or the flow of it can be very uncontrollable now. Yeah. You just have to wait, wait. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I never like was affected that bad even 10 years ago. with all about that base and I would hear some things like people would hate on me but I never read it online I didn't see it that bad and like nowadays I'll be scrolling on TikTok just like pooping on the toilet
Starting point is 00:15:05 and then there'll be a video of me like a person randomly talking just about me about how I look or like being in the mom group and I'm like Oh my God I was just trying to doomscroll while pooping You know like I was in my safe place And now my safe place has taken away That's true. No, I do think that's true. Damn. I was like block myself.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I think that's hard to do, but possible. I mean, my problem is this podcast, right? So like, previous to the podcast, I didn't have, my feed wasn't filled with sex and city stuff, right? Because I would look at dog, dog videos, right? And elephant videos and whatnot. And now because I feel, I, you know, I try to comment and we've got the podcast page and therefore they want to tell me everything, you know. Which is kind of fun, usually, and then occasionally not. And then if it takes a turn, then I just have to stop. And now you can go into your algorithm and change it on Instagram at least. I don't know about TikTok. Yeah, I've got to learn how to do that. It's good. It's helpful.
Starting point is 00:16:05 You can. You can start fresh. Oh, God. I'll do that tonight. Yeah, because it's hard because you do want to have that break of being able to scroll like everyone else. Yeah, I just want to see dogs. I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I just want to see things. I get it. Me too. Or like ASMR or like squishy things. It's true. I went through an ASMR phase. I'm over that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I loved it and then I was done, right? Then I was done. But the animal videos never end and that's the good part, right? Like sometimes you just need that break when you're trying to go to bed or whatever, right? Like trying to. I had to pick up reading. I was like, oh, man. Totally.
Starting point is 00:16:36 A book is safe. A book is very safe. I also have a page book like on the paper, not on the, you know. No electronics, right? I do have a paper book currently. Oh, yeah. I like the thick hard covers. Right?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Like the olden days. It's good. And it's also very calming. I just read seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo. Oh, I've heard that's good. Did you read strangers? No, this is my first book that I finished. You do you?
Starting point is 00:16:57 Strangers. Strangers. As I said, I have two children. I'm a single parent. I read that book in one day. That's how good it is. Okay. Strangers.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I want it. This woman is such an incredible writer, Bell Burden. I mean, it's like you just enter her life. Like she just somehow opens a door. I mean, it's not an easy escape. It's complex. Is it a murder? What is it?
Starting point is 00:17:20 No. No, no, no, no. It's relationship, really upsetting relationship situation that anyone could find themselves in. You know what I'm saying? It's not like an escalated murder crime situation or anything like that. It's like emotional crime. Emotional crime? Yeah, it's emotional crime.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah, we're going to have a Gwyneth movie. Gwyneth is going to be her. But read it before so that you can have your own experience. That's my advice, yes. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
Starting point is 00:18:08 We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones,
Starting point is 00:18:53 and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leve, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Kara, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more. Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You related to the Phantom at that point. Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny. Each day with me, each night, each morning. Say you love me. You know I... So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone?
Starting point is 00:19:53 I'm Ago Vodam. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and The Big Money Players Network. It's Will Farrell My dad gave me the best advice ever I went and had lunch with him one day And I was like And dad I think I want to really give this a shot
Starting point is 00:20:14 I don't know what that means But I just know the groundlings I'm working my way up through And I know it's a place that come Look for up and coming talent He said if it was based solely on talent I wouldn't worry about you Which is really sweet
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah He goes but there's so much luck involved And he's like Just give it a shot He goes but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat, just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right. It wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:20:51 that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2023, former Bachelor Star, Leighton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so much, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian, Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Maricopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeartRour. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. So my Hyundai Hot Take for this episode has got to be the ending where Aiden comes back
Starting point is 00:22:17 to Carrie's apartment and throws the rocks up at her window because she's throwing the rocks earlier. And this obviously stays until, and just like that, they still throw rocks at each other's window, which is so adorable. And then she answers the door and they just, you know, come together and it's filmed in slow-mo, I believe, and it's so beautiful. It's so beautifully shot and so real, but also like the best, it's like a movie moment, you know, like just so, so yummy and they're both so good in it. So that's my Hyundai hot take. Celebrating iconic moments, bold moves, and unforgettable style,
Starting point is 00:22:55 just like Hyundai. Let's talk about you and, okay, so you're obviously much younger than me. How old were you when the show was on Did you watch it originally? My mom watched it. And I remember walking into her bedroom every night because I was like so codependent. I was like, hey, mom and dad. And I remember my mom specifically would be like, shut the TV off. Shut the TV off.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And I was like, why? What is it? And that was my first introduction to sex in the city. That's so cute. So, yeah, that was when I first learned about it. And then when I was older, like I watched, I think all of it by myself and loved it and understood whatever was talking about. But I haven't watched it so long.
Starting point is 00:23:31 But every now and then I see the episodes or if I'm on a plane. It's like great to pop on. But this episode that we watched for this particular episode, I've seen this one for some reason like three times. It's good. I keep watching this one. It's a really good one. It's called the ass eating episode.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah, which is weird. I had forgotten all about that. I had forgotten all about. I was like, well, I do I keep watching it? And when she's sweaty and hot and running from the marathon, and I'm like, she's exactly what I would do to. I'm like, oh, God, I'm sweaty. I know.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I forgot about this particular season. season, season four, in my mind just kind of doesn't exist. I remember season three really, really well. And I don't remember season four. Why? I don't know. Michael Patrick says he's going to come on and help me with my amnesia. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I feel like, I feel like, I feel like some of it is because this season three is when we started getting nominated for stuff. Okay. Which was a big deal, right? Yeah. We never expected it to happen. It was so exciting. and it meant that like the Emmys and the Golden Globes are like six months apart.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And so your whole year kind of revolved partly number one about filming the series and the number two about doing all the stuff you had to do for the series to support the series, right? So it kind of became a year round. That was when we vaulted into this like year round traveling, you know, going to Europe, doing photos shoots, you know, doing the awards. It was really fun, but it was also just a lot. Like I always had my passport in my bag. Like I was ready, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:01 I was super into it, right? I had no kids. I had no relationship. I mean, I also think I do think there was something going on personally in this particular summer, possibly? July 1, 2001. Yes, this summer. How old were you in 2001? I was born in 93.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Anybody got that math? Oh. I'm sorry. Adorable. Adorable. So adorable. That's the other thing that's so funny about it is, you know, I don't feel old, right? Like I feel very.
Starting point is 00:25:31 You're not. Thank you. When you do start to look at the year, you're like, whoa. 2001, that was a big year. A lot changed in 2001. But the summer before 9-11 was like the glorious New York, like almost like everything was brighter, more fun, extra, wonderful, glorious. The whole summer was that way. And then 9-11 obviously, like, changed the city forever and changed all of our lives forever.
Starting point is 00:26:00 That's what happened. That's what happened. Yeah, so, but like the summer before it was just, like everything good, you know, everything good, but also super, super busy. So I think that's partly why I don't remember. But also, like, I think because for Charlotte is the continuation of the Trey storyline. Yeah. Which she gets married in season three. So in my mind, there wasn't a clear demarcation between season three, scenes four, right?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Like, emotionally you're still in the same, you know, I'm trying to make it work with Trey. I'm hoping to make babies. Trying to make babies that's season four, not season three, but obviously getting married the whole picture. She's trying to create this picture that she has in her mind, right? Well, this episode, too, when you guys are sitting with your friends and they have three kids, I'm the girl with three kids. I know. What did you think when you watch that? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:26:48 I was just laughing because I see both sides. But I'm literally the girl, like my managers, none of my team, except Lukeie poops. None of my, lukey poops. Sorry, Luke. I have weird nicknames for my whole team. None of my team, most of them aren't even married yet or don't have children. So they'll face-time me about like a wardrobe problem. And I'll have my two-year-old screaming.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And I'll be like, one second, please. I'll call you right back. And they always tell me that they're laying in bed with their boyfriend. They're like, this is how I know I'm not ready. Like I get a lot of those. So you are the example. I understand. I understand.
Starting point is 00:27:26 But I'm like in heaven and chaos and I'm tired. Of course. Of course. I have a lot of my friends going, maybe we're going to wait. Even my siblings. I'm like, what do you mean you're going to wait? This is fun. Like, my kids need friends.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Like, make babies. And they're like, yeah. It's interesting. Like, did you want the children? Like, did you think about it? I wanted babies. Wow. I was dating my husband and we were walking by diapers at a store and I started crying.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And I was like, I know it's too soon. I know everyone will judge me, but I feel like I'm supposed to be buying these diapers right now. and I don't understand. Well, listen, if you feel it deeply, that's what's important. I waited all the way to 26. Amazing. I got married at 25 and a year later during COVID, we were like, well, this is our break. This is our time.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Most definitely. Oh, yeah. Then started getting pregnant and then. Amazing. Yeah, 26. I just think, you know, it's different for everyone. And I think the important thing is to listen, like, deeply. Don't be affected by what's around you.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Don't let their outside pressure affect what you want. pro or against or whatever. You don't know what I'm saying. If that's about marriage, it's about children, everything. But it's sometimes hard to listen to the inner voice. So good for you. Yeah, it is. Especially with my career, too.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Even, like, after baby number one, I, like, had a hit with Made You Look, which, like, never happens in my career 10 years later. So I'm like, oh, no, I finally have momentum again. Like, do I really want another baby right now while I'm, like, killing it? And my team was so supportive. They're the best. And they were like, don't think just answer you want another baby. And I was like, yep.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And they're like, that's it. Then do it. Definitely. It was the best. Good for them that they said that. I'm so glad. I mean, I can't even imagine doing both, though. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It's a lot. It's a lot. I mean, the thing that's interesting is like, I feel like being a parent is so creative. Yeah. Like, you have to be so creative. We're so silly. Right. It's really important and good.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And it does kind of feed our creative lives. Yeah. But yet it's hard to do both at the same time. It is so hard. I wish we can do it all, though. I know me too. I literally. said the other day, crying to my husband, I was like, but I thought I was doing it all. I thought I
Starting point is 00:29:31 am doing it all. He's like, I think you are doing it all. He's like, I think you are. And I was like, it doesn't feel like I am. It doesn't? What do you mean? Sometimes. Well, I feel like my career is failing if I'm doing great at home. Oh, I understand. And I'm like very dramatic and hard on myself. And I'm like, well, I don't have a hit or no one even knows my album's coming out. And I, like, like, I just go negative, negative, negative. And then he's like, but you have three beautiful, healthy children and we're thriving. Look at this, look at our life. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. I am crushing it. I also feel like there's no way, like whenever we're promoting like the show or whatever it is, right?
Starting point is 00:30:08 You, it's not a loop where you can feel satisfaction. Yeah, ever, right? And it's like a, it's a weird job where you work really hard and that's not where you get paid. So you're like, this will be worth it, right? And it's what's. And I think it is worth it. And I also think you just to do it. It's one of those things where you just have to do it. Doing it is it. That is the end of result, right? Do you know what I'm saying? And you just have to do it and do the best you can do at it. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, all. wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together
Starting point is 00:31:49 in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolfe, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more. Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin. You related to the Phantom at that point. Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny. Share each day with me each night, each morning, say you love me. You know how I... So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to playing along on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:32:39 or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.
Starting point is 00:32:54 My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent.
Starting point is 00:33:09 He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hanging. in there. Yeah, it would not be...
Starting point is 00:33:38 Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in Owens, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian, Michael Naranini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's talk about the show. Yeah, I'm like, we'll never get to this people. I know, I know, but it's really fun.
Starting point is 00:35:07 It's a really fun conversation. Okay, this episode is called Baby Talk is Cheap. And it is directed by Michael Spiller, who has. had been our DP and he had wanted to direct. Yeah. So this is fourth season. So it took him a while. I feel like maybe he directed last season.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And it's written by Cindy Shupak, who is one of our women writers. I think she was the second women writer to be hired. And then she's an executive producer at this point with our other female writer, Jenny. So Jenny and Cindy are like key to the whole, the whole picture. And they have so many funny stories. Their stories were a lot of what our stories were based on, not our stories, right? They had to be either one of the writer's stories or someone they knew. like they're a good friend so that there was like verification that it was was was real i know i know
Starting point is 00:35:49 really interesting everyone always thought it was ours but it had nothing to do with us thank god you know what mean much easier to play other people's stories you know um now this is a really interesting storyline with aden how do you feel about aden that he was the one you really i know i i just like love them seeing them together they're so good right yeah the chemistry the chemistry is so good and this is where she flies to him and it's like a magic thing It was good. It was really good. But he's also like super emotional, which I love because you don't see, especially like in that time.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I don't know a lot of tough guys being like, you broke my heart. Oh, I know. He really delivers that so beautifully. So good. And her being desperate for him, I loved all that. But I just root for them every time I saw them. I was like, oh, come on, guys. Figure this out.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I know. I felt the same way. And it used to be, I mean, I've said this before. so listeners, I'm sorry, but I used to be kind of big, team big, because Charlotte was team big. And I didn't really think about it separately from Charlotte. And then when I watch it back, I'm like, oh, no. Oh, no. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:53 But back then, that was kind of normal to have this kind of aloof, you know, unavailable guy, right? But when I watch it, Aiden is dreaming. Jamie. Dreamy. But also, like, I feel for him. You know, I really feel for him. And I really should be on her side. but I'm like, oh, I feel for him.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It's very interesting to rewatch. They torture each other. They really, in a way, but they don't mean to. I think that's what's so relatable, right? Yeah. Like you can understand their, like, what's happening. Yeah, but also, like, I mean, I don't know. Like, as I'm rewatching it, I'm, I mean, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Like, I don't really remember. I don't know what's going to happen. I mean, I know what's going to happen, but I don't know why. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I don't know why. Why can't Aiden and Carrie ever work it out? Do you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah, I can't remember. It's very interesting. Me neither. But when you're watching it, you just go in it wherever they are. Yeah. Which is what's so kind of amazing. Like even though I have a lot of other knowledge, right? Even at the end, too, they like finally got together and he's like, I got to think about it.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And I was like, why? I know. That was good, though. And she's like, awesome. I'll just live with my thoughts. I know, but she deserves that. She did. She totally deserves that.
Starting point is 00:38:10 She did. She did break his heart. And like you said, he is this kind of feeling guy. Yeah. But he's also. It's smart that he was aware to emotionally aware to be like. Right? I'm not going to go fully in right now.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Right. Which is so good. Yeah. It's interesting. And it's also good for her to kind of sit with her own actions. Yeah. You know, what did I actually do? Because I do feel like Carrie is very like impulsive.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I don't know if that's really the right word. That's her. Right? Like it's interesting to look at it. Accountability is tough. It is. Which is interesting. I wouldn't have ever thought that before, but I do know people complain about Carrie, whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:47 But I also feel like that's unfair because everyone does the best they can do and you have all these different feelings. And she's a deeply feeling person who's not necessarily super comfortable with her feelings. Yeah. You know? So it's interesting that she's drawn to Aiden, who is more comfortable with this feeling as a guy. Very opposite to me. It's good, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:07 But then obviously there's also big who's not comfortable. of his feelings. It's all very interesting, but I relate to all of it in terms of like, you know, you want what you want. And you don't necessarily. I married me and Aden, like a softie. You did. That's so nice. I know. It's the best. That's so nice. It's hard to find them. It's very rare. Right. He was born in California. I think that helped a lot. Okay. Me and my brothers are from the East Coast. So we're like, you stuff your feelings down and we never talk about him. Sure. And he was like, let's meditate on this. And they were like, wow. And now they're like, we should meditate. We understand you. He's an actor.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yes. That also sometimes can help. Is that what it is? Well, I mean, it's a mixed bag, right? Like, actors in general were supposed to be, you know, expressive. But, like, expressive, like in touch with emotions so that we can hopefully access them, right? Could you tell when they're lying or not? I can tell when actors are lying?
Starting point is 00:40:00 Sure. Me too. I could. And I'll be like, your whole thing is not real. I don't think that's real. Because the thing about actors is that, yes, we play other people. but it's a learned thing, right? Like you have a script and you learn it.
Starting point is 00:40:12 You're not really lying. Yeah. You have to find the emotional truth of it. I think that whole thing is like fake news or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like that you never know if an actor is telling the truth. I don't think that's true at all. I think actors are more transparent than your average person on the street.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I just know my husband too well where I know his Twitch and like his little face. I'm like, that's all right. Yeah. Well, good for you. I mean, you guys have been together since you were really young. So that's really good. I think that's great. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:42 You guys, Megan is too much fun. So we're definitely going to split our conversation into two. Please join us again in a couple days for part two with Megan Trainor on Are You a Charlotte? When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he did.
Starting point is 00:41:14 We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wood. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore. It's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah. It would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.
Starting point is 00:42:18 You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian, Michael Mancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 10, 10, shots, 5, city hall building. How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder.
Starting point is 00:42:58 This is one of the most dramatic events that really ever happened in New York City politics. I scream, get down, get down, those are shots. A tragedy that's now forgotten. And a mystery that may or may not have been political, that may have been about sex. Listen to Roershack, murder at 3. City Hall on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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