Are You A Charlotte? - Merry Merry!

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

We’re in a Holiday mood so we felt it was only appropriate to look at a few of Kristin’s Christmas movies!  Find out why Kristin called Sarah Jessica Parker to discuss when, where and why she would be kissing SJP’s husband!!  (And, Kristin reveals why it was so weird!)Plus, fun holiday movie BTS!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Guess what, you guys? We are here for a very special holiday edition of Are You a Charlotte? We have our wonderful. producer Easton with me, and we're going to talk about all of my Christmas movies. I'm so excited about this, the best part of the season. Oh, thank you for joining us. It's really fun. We were trying to think of something special to do for the holidays, because with the exception

of the first movie of Sex and the City, we don't really have Christmas stuff. Yeah. Yeah, which I guess we could do next year maybe. Maybe we'll do the movie for next year. I don't know. But right now, it's really fun that we're here and we can talk about my Christmas movies because I have a few. Isn't that funny? I really had to think about it. I was like, oh my God, I have so many, which is funny. And it is kind of like a cottage industry Christmas movies, which is fun because when you're home with the holidays and your family and you want to watch something together, it's nice that, you know, there are movies that are

appropriate, right? Yeah. It's the best part of the year, I think. You think? Yes. I love having these movies as like a tradition. And I love the idea that like you're part of so many people's holiday traditions. There are people that watch these movies every year. Which is amazing, amazing. And I love that on social media because usually the holidays are coming and I'm so busy getting ready

and then all of a sudden someone will come on and say like, I watched Holiday in the Wild or whatever it is. I'm like, oh, wait, holiday in the wild. So let's start with Holiday in the Wild, which is my most recent Christmas movie. I made it for Netflix with the incredible Roblo, which is the second time Rob and I've worked together.

we did something called the Atomic Train, which was a two-part mini-series, I guess. I don't know what we called it at the time. In the 90s, I want to say. Late 90s, it was really fun. And then I convinced him to go traips around African countries in very remote places with me to do this elephant movie slash Christmas-themed movie holiday in the wild, which was very much taken from my ex-examined. of going to Kenya, though in the film, we're in South Africa predominantly and also

Zambia a little bit. But it was about how it's basically my story with some embellishments, I guess, but it's that I had been on safari in 2001 in Kenya and fallen in love with all of the animals and the people and the country and the land and everything. And then I was back there in 2009 and my friend and I found an abandoned baby elephant and baby elephant alone without her mother or family. I know, and we found her, my friends and I, and we were able to take her to the Sheldrick Trust, which is an incredible place in Kenya. They have raised and rehabilitated and put back into the wild over, I think, 380

elephants now. Wow. And they're all having wildborn babies. And I have been involved with them since 2009, and I love them very much. And so we basically took that as the jumping. off place for the story of Holiday in the Wild. There's a love story that I personally did not experience a love story part, but the love

story is that Rob is my pilot which he just loves so much being a pilot of a tiny Super Cub and the outback. He was very into that part of his role. And it was really fun because it was very much Netflix says that they're committed

to being a global company. And it really was that. Like we were in South Africa. They had an incredible production. We were in Zambi. You know, everything was just beautifully done. There was so much care taken in terms of, you know, the culture. It was translated into all the languages, Wahili, all the different languages. And, you know, I really, I really appreciate that they were able to fund my beautiful, you know, vision of a, of a movie about elephant conservation.

I watched this last night with my wife. Amazing. Loved it. Absolutely loved it. And something that I love about this, that it sets it apart from other, like, holiday movies like this is that I'm watching it. I'm like, okay, she's going to fall in love with Rob Lo and that's, no, that doesn't really happen until much. Sorry, everybody, if you haven't seen Holiday in the Wild, spoiler. It doesn't, what keeps you there is love of the elephants and of the people and of the, of the land and the culture and everything.

And I thought that was really beautiful. And the romance is kind of like, I don't want to say an afterthought, but like it happens much later. Right. And what an inspiring movie, I told you this before we started, but like we were pausing the movie and like looking up how to like adopt an elephant from here. And you can. Anyone can adopt an elephant on the Sheldrick Trust website is, I think it's Sheldricktrust.org.

And it's $50 a year. I give it to all the kids in my life every year. And the thing that's great about it is they send you monthly updates of how your elephant is doing. They let you choose your elephant so you can choose a little baby that's in the nursery in Nairobi, or you can choose, like, for instance, my elephant that I found Chimu is living in the wild now in the national park called Savo. You can still help support Chimu

because they still come to visit. Like if they have a baby, they bring the baby to meet the keepers. It's like so magical and unbelievable. And just they're so brilliantly done. And the Sheldricks also have, at this point, I think it's 10 anti-poaching units. We have vet units that are there to treat any wild animal,

elephant, zebra. giraffe, you know, they're just supporting all of the wild animals and allowing them to live safely in the wild and protecting them, which is amazing. Incredible. And this is all, you know, part of a holiday movie. Yeah. I know we have a lot of movies to get to, but I just wanted, there's a couple things that jumped out at me. Tell me. First of all, your looks were amazing.

There's a leopard, there's a leopard print dress you wear that you look great in. Thank you. It's my own. Thank you so much. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I had to take the clothes with me. Let me tell you.

Yeah. I love that. Near the beginning of the movie, there's a part where you say, and just like that, it's an emptiness. No! And that got me excited. That's insane. I didn't remember that.

That was very fun. Isn't it weird how often people in general say, and just like that? There was a headline the other day about the drama of Warner Brothers that said, and just like that, Netflix spies Warner Brothers. I sent it to Sarah and Cynthia. I was like, can you believe this? It's permeated culture.

And then a major question I have, again, I'm sorry, everybody. If we're spoiling holiday in the wild, this isn't a major thing. But like at one point, there's a painting painted of you with elephants. Yeah. Where is that page? Did you get to keep that painting? No offense to whoever made that prop, but I didn't love that painting. Did you like that painting?

It was an interesting interpretation of what you look like. I know. I had to look so moved. I don't want to say how. how I come to have the painting in the movie because that is towards the end. I was supposed to look so moved and I had to stare at the actual painting.

That took some acting, you guys, okay? That's all I want to say. Sorry to anyone I might be offending who made that painting in South Africa for us, but I didn't love it. I didn't love it. I did not keep it. I think they tried to give it to me

and I was like, that's okay. That's all right. I'm good. So that's on Netflix, and I think you can watch it. It's called Holiday in the Wild. if you just search it, I think it's easily watchable. Pretty much every year I post about it.

And it's so nice to hear people loving it. I'm wanting to see it. And I love it so much. It's a great movie. I really loved it. Thank you. But you've done some other holiday movies here. Oh, so many.

So many. I think the one is the one before that, Shirley Maclean. That's the one. A Heavenly Christmas from 2016. A Heavenly Christmas, 2016 Hallmark, right? Yes. And the fantastic Eric McCormack is my love interest in that one. I mean, I get some good.

guys in these Christmas movies, I got to say. You really liked that. I mean, it's, it's pretty good. I was thinking the other day, I should try to do another Christmas movie in my future because it's been pretty good for me. In this one, Shirley MacLean is a ghost, and my character dies. I slip on the ice. No. Yes, I'm a career woman.

This is a theme. It's going to come back. It's interesting. I don't know why I'm drawn to these things and what I am. So I slip on the ice. I'm a super career woman. and I don't have a relationship or anything. I think that's what I remember.

And I'm walking in my career suits, and I slip on the ice and hit my head and I die theoretically. I die, I guess. Or I partially die or I, whatever. I go to heaven and I see Shirley McLean. And I have a cat in heaven. I don't know why I have a cat in heaven, but I have a cat that I remember this day really well

filming with Shirley and a cat. It was a lot to handle. I had to hold the cat. Cats don't always do what you want, even though, even though, This was a very wonderful cat, though, and we did great together. And I remember Shirley was, like, skeptical that the cat was going to do what the cat was supposed to do. And, of course, you're really just so odd that you're actually just acting with Shirley McLean.

Right. It's, like, hard to even focus, you know? And she was incredible and fascinating. We spent many weeks together in Vancouver. And she was just a joy. So much we flew together. You know, she was older at this point, but, like, such a trooper. They got her up on this fire escape at one.

point in this movie and I was so nervous I was like you guys please get shirley down off the fire escape um but and we were on the beach at one point and the storm was coming and the wind is just blowing and she's basically she's trying to say to me my character that i haven't you know paid attention to the important things in life like love and then eric's character is is back on earth and oh it's possible that i get a chance to go back to earth and if i don't blow it i get to stay on earth i think though i'm not sure because it's very similar to another Christmas movie I did that we will get to in a second.

They're very similar. And I just love those type stories. I'm one of those people where if I'm looking at Instagram, I don't know if you guys get this on Instagram, but I have this page, I guess, where people who died briefly talk about their experience. Do you get this? I have not seen this.

No. Have you gotten this, Evie? Okay, it exists. It's really good. Yeah. And they talk about what their experience was when they died. and it's fascinating, fascinating. I'm just very fascinated by this.

So I do believe that there is some kind of an afterlife. I don't think that it's necessarily textbook Christianity, but I do believe that there is an afterlife. And I think it's super interesting to think about briefly passing over to the other side and then coming back. I think it's very interesting. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So sometimes they offer me movies about this and I almost always say yes. So in that movie, Shirley McLean is my guide, which is incredible. And she was amazing. And I asked her a lot of questions and she was just funny and a little bit intense and, you know, really fascinating in all ways. And I was really lucky to get to her with her. And Eric was also incredible.

And Eric was like, I had known Eric a long time. I had been on Will and Grace. Yes. But I did not know Eric as a leading man. And he was like, wow, surprising. Season 7, episode 7, if you want to go back and rewatch that episode of Will and Grace that you guys did together.

Oh, yeah. Thank you so much. Will & Grace and Midsonadee from 2004. And you know who is on that episode who plays Vince is Bobby Cannavali. Wow. Who plays Funky Spunk. It's a full circle moment, you guys. So Bobby plays in Will & Grace, Will's boyfriend. And then I play his best friend in life.

So I'm like his grace. Wow. Yes. Yes. It was very trippy. It was very, very trippy. But really, really fun. And Eric, I just had only really known him.

You know, we'd been at all the award shows and everything because we were kind of the same era of, you know, sitcoms or whatever you would call it, comedy. But he was very different to play opposite him. And we have this very long romantic scene where we dance and kiss and stuff. Oh my gosh. Oh, my goodness me.

It was quite something. Anyway. That was a 10th of the 19 original films from Hallmark's 2016 countdown to Christmas. It was a situation. Yeah, that's a big deal over there. They make huge billboards and you promote a lot. And I mean, you know, I love that they make so many movies over there at Hallmark.

I don't know if they still are. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Are they? The demand is there, yeah. Yeah. And now they're in competition with lifetime. Exactly.

Oh, everybody's doing it now. And Netflix. Netflix is like doing a lot. Yeah. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast. what happened in Nashville tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed.

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the summer you usually film christmas movies in the summer it was a hundred degrees in vancouver Wow. And we were supposed to be in a snowy Christmas setting. The snow, the fake snow kept melting. We were sweating. Matthew's my husband. Danny DeVito is his friend and our neighbor. And Kristen Chenewood plays his wife.

And we're up there for a while. And Alia Sokhat plays my daughter, which is bizarre, okay? Because she's prolific and brilliant, but she was so young then. And I just love watching her now because I'm like, that's my little baby grown up. it was really fun it was a really weird thing because at one point Matthew and I do kiss in some falling fake snow

and I was just like this is very weird and he was like no it's not I was like guys guys are so weird it is weird to lock lips with your friend's husband even if it's brief

okay it's strange but it was fun it was fun and it's very family friendly there's not in any way questionable at one point you said that that kissing scene was too steamy for a, for a PG rating.

Did I? Yes. Wow. The scene as filmed was too steamy. It would have had to been cut from the, uh, from the final point. Oh, wow. I believe it. I don't think I realized at the time because I was still kind of, I think this was right

after we finished Sex and the City or maybe before the movies even, like in between the show and the movies. And I remember I was just more in the Sex of the City type mode. And I just think we didn't really realize the chastness. that we were supposed to be, you know, it was like a chased, married kiss, you know, so they had to kind of edit it, which was fine.

Yeah, well, that's a Deck the Hall's from 2006, and that was released theatrically. And I want to tell people where they can watch these if they're streaming it. Where can you watch Deck the Hall? Deck the Hall is on Hulu, it's on AMC Plus. Wow. Okay.

It's on, and it's on Netflix too, wow. Wow. Your one-stop shop for a... I never get any of these residuals I might want to add. Never see. seen any residuals from deck the halls that's very interesting news oh wow well look for a couple pennies uh maybe 10 cents might be coming my way uh and then uh a movie called three days yes three days is the one that i get a lot of people asking about because it's kind of hard to find

i looked it up and i found it on amazon prime but it says very interestingly that it's from the wondering which i've never heard of and when i made it i believe we made it for ABC family, which used to be a cable station. Yes. Right? Yes. But things have been bought and sold and bought and sold, as we know. And so who knows?

But now it's on Amazon Prime for everyone who asked me on Instagram, but it's under the Wondery, and I don't know what that means. But it's interesting. Three days, I think possibly I also die. You do. Yeah, I think I die, right? But it's about my husband not having... been present and a good husband, I think, to me.

So he gets three days to try to do better or I am actually going to die. I might die. And then I might for really die. Like maybe I'm in the hospital? I think I might be in the hospital. Like in a coma. Am I in a coma? It says you're tragically killed days before Christmas.

Oh, I'm tragically killed. Oh, I'm tragically killed. I remember. Okay. So this, this is what I remember about this. First of all, I'm just going to get out of the way. I am dating the actor who's in it with me. His name is Reed Diamond.

We discussed him with Danny Futterman. That's Reed. He's a very good actor. We went to Nova Scotia to do this film in February. It was between seasons of Sex and the City. I had to fly down from Nova Scotia to New York for our first read-through of the season on my one day off and fly back, right? Like, it was craziness. And it was 40 below in Nova Scotia in February.

And there was like eight feet of snow. Like, it was so intense. And we had to pretend that we were in Boston, I believe. So we're wearing little leather jackets. And the crew is wearing, like, huge snowsuits where you can only see their eyes, right? Oh, my God. And they're heated. They're electric heated, whatever.

And we're in little jeans and, like, a little jacket. Oh, man, it was cold. But it was beautiful. And Nova Scotia is a trip, trip and a half to film in. Very different. It's trippy, trippy, trippy. But fun and interesting. And we were out there in the cold.

And the scene, I think I get hit by a car. It's coming back to me because I'm holding a dog. And it was the middle of the night. And it was 40 below. And I was so worried about that dog because I had to drop the dog on the asphalt. And I didn't want its feet to freeze, right? So we got this special tent,

this heated little igloo tent. And like, I would drop the dog and then I would have to grab it. And then I would like, save it, you know, like put it into the tent for the dog handler who was in the tent. Like the dog got special, special care because I was like, we are not going to hurt this dog and this weather. It was a sweet dog too.

But yeah, I guess I'm killed. But I don't know. I don't remember the plot enough to know how he fixes it. The tragedy is three days before Christmas. And Angel gives Andrew the chance to relive the last three days his wife was alive. But he can't change fate and Beth, Kristen, will still lose her life. Oh, no. However, Andrew can still discover the gift Beth needs most from him.

Oh, my God. Well, I'm going to have to watch this and find out what happens. Oh, sweet. Oh, so I do die. I do die. Oh, no. This is my specialty. Christmas movies where I die. Yeah, the ghosts of Christmas past, present, and future. I know. It's very interesting. I didn't really realize until I started trying to think about this for today that I had two movies involving death and Christmas and trying to do it better in a short period of time somehow. You know, like trying to redo things or fix things. I love that stuff. it's really interesting and I think it's it's more I don't want to say more compelling but like it's better I think than being stuck in the like oh big city girl goes back home oh yeah those are really popular and look I do it's not that far from them because like in the in the Shirley Maclean one I am like a career girl who hasn't paid attention to relationships right so like the Eric McCormack characters like kind of in front of me but I haven't really taken the time you know what I'm saying so it is still like that but it just involves death also. And I think in the three days, I think maybe he's two career.

Yes. You know, which is a pretty big theme. Your death exists to help him realize the true spirit of Christmas, which is, you know, because... Interesting.

Women exist to help men find, you know, the truth and everything. It's true, but listen, I said yes to that. So I think I thought it was a pretty good role. Like, there's something that made me say yes. So I don't feel like it's all about him. Okay, good. Yeah, I don't.

I can't wait to watch this. And that's on Amazon Prime. That's on Amazon Prime. So I have kind of, you can, it's a smorgasbord of streaming opportunities, right? Yes. Yes. Thank you so much for talking with me about it. Thanks for watching.

And thanks for being such a big part of our holiday season, Kristen. All right. You guys, I hope you're having fun out there and not stressing about the holidays. Try to enjoy them. Don't stress out. That's what I tell myself. And we'll be back. Yeah.

Thanks for joining us. Thank you. Bye you guys. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. It doesn't matter how much I fight. It doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this.

It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened in Nashville. Bill on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? Who catfishes a city? Is it even safe to snort human remains? Is that the plot of footloos? I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you, Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. It's called Crimeless, a true crime comedy podcast.

Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? My sister was y'all 22 times. A police officer, right? But what do you do when the monster is the man in blue? This dude is the devil. He'll hurt you. This is the story of a detective who thought he was above the law, until we came together to take him down.

I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. I got you, I got you, I got you. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I got you. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother, Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang.

You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game. as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe Must Untangle the Dangerous Past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, it's me, Katie Couric.

Did you know that I recently joined Substack? Very exciting. It's where I'll be sharing my unfiltered conversations with the people everyone's talking about. I'll also tell you what I'm reading, what I'm watching, what's making me crazy, and what's giving me hope. If you like deep dives, hot takes, and real talk, you're in the right place. Search Katie Couric on Substack and hit subscribe.

I'll be there reporting live, most likely, in my pajamas. See you there. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.