Are You A Charlotte? - Michael Patrick King reveals the actor that auditioned for 10 different characters before landing an iconic role!

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

Oh this is a juicy one!! Michael Patrick King reveals how and why he wanted John Corbett to return as Aiden for a Round 2 with Carrie in Sex and the City and what John Corbett had to do to make it happen! Plus, how the coffee shop scenes were like choreographing the Rockettes, the sacred time in the makeup trailer, and the hilarious moment that was removed from Sex and the City but showed up in And Just Like That!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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When you were writing, so I'm going to connect it all to Charlotte. So what I see when I watch the scene with Cynthia especially is like Charlotte and Kristen are kind of dealing with the evolution of Charlotte in terms of getting out of some of the boxed elements of her, right? Like, you know, she's always trying so hard and she's peppy and she's whatever, blah, blah, blah. And now we're really, we're really stretching, right? Yeah, she's heartbroken. Yeah, she's heartbroken and also, but she's still going to try. right? But then she doesn't know how. Like that, you know, so it's like, you can't just deviate, right?

And we're going to get to the point where I'm laying on my couch and Carrie comes. And that's such a beautiful scene. Right. Like you're so, you're like building block by building block. You have to believe the situation. You can never, you can never lose gravity. You can't suddenly go someplace where the audience goes, wait, did I miss an episode? Right. It all has to be a little bit ahead, but just a little bit ahead of where they are. Right, right. If it's too far ahead, they don't understand.

It's starting to see, oh, she's covering, oh, she's covering. Oh, that's going to be hard. And then you see the nobility of her coming at the end and choosing friendship. Exactly. And that's what we were talking about. I don't remember that scene at all, which is interesting. Because I was worried about the other scene, but I don't think I was worried about that scene. But you can tell, I could tell when I come in the door that I've already been crying.

Yeah. Right? So that was interesting. I don't think it was a choice, right? I think it's probably just whatever take or whatever. and me having all, like, at that point, there's, it's pent up, you know. And then I, and I couldn't remember what I was going to say,

which I love, right? Not in the scene when I was watching, right? And I love that that you don't know. Also, we didn't want the audience to know. Right. It works so good. It was like, oh, they're all acting. Samantha's giving her tea.

Right. The way Samantha gave Carrie breakfast in the movie. Yes. Yes. She was devastated. There's like a weird nurse. that shows up in Samantha, very rarely when something emotionally devastating is in the air. Because you don't see it coming. She barely doesn't even say anything.

Totally. She's great. Well, it's also like in my motherboard myself, which I had remembered the general storyline, but I didn't remember the payoff, right? So good. So, so good. So the thing that people used to say is why is the show? So why do people still watch it?

It's because of the love, not the sex. It's the love of these women for each other. And the sex is fantastic because it's humiliating. Everybody relates to it. And it's comic and it's human. Yes, it's human and there's not judgment. And survivors. Yes.

But it's really the moments where, you know, Miranda jumps out of the aisle at her own Carrie jumps out of the aisle at Miranda's mother's funeral because she has no one to walk. with or when Miranda respects what Charlotte says. Yes. And then still holds that space for her, as they say. Yes.

Walking down the street in New York amongst everybody else, not even aware that they're having this crisis. And it's the moment of, you know, the comedy of Carrie in the bathroom, even saying, did you tell him? And Sarah Jessica is so comic in that scene. She's done. She's doing all that. Like, it's pure candy for her.

Like, great. I know. She's so animated. It's so cute. Like, she's not even, she's like a little rock on a pond, not even saying the line. She just, beep, beep, beep, but, but, but perfectly needed. Yes. A different way to add something to the same abortion storyline.

Definitely. And incredible. It's incredible. Okay, let's go back to the. And beautiful. And the clothes. Oh, my God. I mean, now you see it.

Like, Carrie walking in. that kilt with the male. Oh, I'd forgotten about that one. It's everywhere right now. 100%. We should have gotten that outfit out. You have to show Sarah outfits to jog, remember. Oh, that is so completely.

It's incredible. Edgy, she current. Yep. I know. I know it. I know it. I mean, they were just, all of it. Yeah.

It's just dreamy. Delicious. Which is why you're rewatching them and talking about them. Definitely. Definitely. But also because I think, and I just want to go back to like, when you, okay, so at this point we've got Jenny, we've got Cindy. Darren is.

Oh, this is full room. Right. Is Darren gone? Gone, gone. Season two gone. Got it, got it, got it. I thought so, I wasn't sure. Season four is a complete rock star female room.

Ellen Heimberg's there as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got to find out of Alan. Allen's Heinberg's there. It's a very strong room. Amy B. Harris. Amy B. Harris. Julie, Elisa.

Liz, I think Liz, Liz may be there. Okay. Cindy, Jenny and me. Got it. It was a big ass room of people with a lot of feelings,

a lot of opinions, a lot of female information, and a lot of humiliation. Comedy humiliation from all this. All we did was just mine. What happened? What happened? Wow.

What happened on the weekend? What happened? And no one was pregnant, Everybody was still feeling it's hard to be friends with people all the time. You mean like the people who are pregnant and are now like in a different world? A lot of the stories were mining female friendships as they age. Got it. That's true.

You know, like when you fall apart, when you come back together, what's legitimate? You know, we've done many, many stories where the women fell apart. at one point in the movie, after Miranda held the secret that she told Big to not get married, she sent Carrie yellow flower, yellow roses and saying, you know, you have to forgive me. I don't even remember that. Yes, the friendship flower. Yellow Rose is the flower for friendship. I didn't know that.

Okay. So Miranda sends her this big arrangement because she won't return her calls. Oh. So it was always about realizing that these female relationships that you have are relationships. They're past friendship. Totally. The relationships. Definitely.

They're the loves of your life, as we said with Big in the finale. Yes. You're the loves of her life. Yes. So all those women had friends and then within the room we have interactions and we're still friends. Yes. Thank God. We're still friends.

Yes. That is the strongest continuing friendships of writers of all the rooms I've been in. That group, it's very hard to maintain a group. You'll fall in love with one person and they'll stay in your life. Right. But a group moving along was a testament to the camaraderie of that room. And I think it's a testament to you choosing them. And could we talk a little bit about that?

Because you're really the maestro at this point. And Julia and Elisa had never written a script before motherboard, which is insane. Yeah. How did that happen? How did you find people? How did you choose people and bring them along? Well, it comes from their writing, first of all. you read something that they wrote. And to me, it's a voice. It's a one thought. It doesn't feel like

writing. It feels like life. And Julian Elisa wrote a script, a spec script. I don't even think it was our show, but I immediately knew they have a voice that I haven't. It doesn't feel like it's written. It feels like it's alive. Everybody on the page has something. When I look at scripts that other writers are wanting me to do, I'm like, I'd look for the one thing. And it can be one completely original sentence. And I go, oh, I've never heard anybody write that. Wow. And that's what you look for. Okay. And then that's first. And then you meet them. And it's all about the energy. And it's like, do I feel funnier across from them? Do I feel smarter across from them? Do I feel like more myself across from them?

Wow. That's important. Good. Because that means that you're going, there's something there that you want to entertain, which will bring up the better part of you is in the room. Right. And then there's the, are they humans? Right.

Are they safe? Right. Are they comfortable? Are they humble? Are they group? Right. Because that's important. So important. So then when you're in the writer's room, because anytime any of our writers come on, it's like there's so much that obviously I didn't ask you at the time, right? And I love to hear about it. So you would have people come to LA pre before the season, like in between the seasons. Tell us a little bit about that process. There's a pre room where you sort of plow up the field and you sort of get all the dirt going. And what did you think over the hiatus? What did you think? What could it be? What could it be? And I always came in with the map, a very, very

strong impulse to start and a very strong impulse to close. So you already envisioned that. I already imagined a journey. Got it. Of each of the characters. Got it. And then the side trips are where everybody else is like, what if we do that? What if we do that?

What if we do that? What if we do that? What if we do that? What if we do that? But when we were in Atlantic City doing the Atlantic City episode, they still talk about the fact that in the middle of that season, I put them in a hotel room with me. And I said, here's season, the next season. Four.

Boom. Here's the next season. Wow. And they're like, ugh. So sometimes it comes to you. Wow. And then it's a trial. Right.

It's a jury room. Do you like it? Right. I mean, I'll give you a perfect example. I've said this before. Some writers in the room, Julie, Rottenberg, did not want to see Aiden again. What? When Aiden left, she was like...

Do you need the first time? Goodbye. Wow. When after the wedding and they didn't get married after Charlotte got married and Aiden went way. Yeah. I felt very strongly that Carrie and Aden was strong. Yeah. John Corvette and Sarah Jessica were yeah. Amazing together. So I came into the thing I think Aden comes back and Julie protecting our integrity of not repeating and not trying to duplicate something was like absolutely not. What? And everybody was like, what? And then somebody else had a couple of things. I agree with that.

And I said, okay, give me reason. shouldn't come back. And they quoted Samantha. That whole crunchy granola thing. That turquoise Julie, crunchy granola thing. And I was like, oh, you're using our own words against us. So I was like, oh, okay, so you don't want to see that, Aiden. I raise you that and I go you one better. I acknowledge that and go you one better. What if he comes back different so that we can maintain our not the same thing? I said, what if he comes back hard as a rock and ripped? And they're like, and with his haircut. And they were like, what?

Oh, wait a minute. And then I went to John Corbett and I took him to lunch at Jones. Uh-huh. And we were eating. He was eating fried chicken. And I said, hey, Aiden. And he's eating fried chicken and mashed potatoes. Uh-oh.

And we were in a booth. Uh-oh. And I said, hey, John, we want to bring you back. He said, oh, that's cool. That's cool. I said, but you've got to come back, worked out, ripped with short hair. And he goes, I knew I was a fatty. And he rolled over on his side and I knew that I was a fatty.

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And they have to sit there, take it, and then the journey to getting in front of the camera. And it's so hard to relax and open up in front of a camera. And I remember one time when we were doing the episode where they go to the Playboy Mansion in the L.A. episode. Let's discuss. It was the scene where they're supposed to drive up in the blue convertible and in the sound in front of the fountain. And the sun was hitting the fountain. And you were nowhere to be seen. None of you.

And I was like, the sun's leaving. The sun is leaving. And they were like, well, they're not here. And I was like, the sun's leaving. and you were like telling you were down a hill off the Playboy Mansion in a trailer. Right. And I was like, I'm losing the sun. And I got in a fucking golf cart with my hair on fire, went down across the speed bumps,

through Playboy Mansion gate, boom, parked the car and knock a, get, get, good, and I opened the door to like say, let's go. And the four of you were in the chair. was some sort of cool music playing from the 90s or 70s or whatever. And you all just literally looked at me like this. Oh, no. Don't bring that in here. And I closed the door.

And I never pounded on a makeup door since. Oh, that's so sweet. Because I was like, oh, that's a thing. It is a thing. That's a ritual. That's church. Definitely. That's energy.

That has nothing to do. and eventually you got the message and you all showed up and we got the shot and the sun was hitting the water and you were all adorable. But it was like, it's a lot to get ready to be on camera. It is a lot. It is a lot. You're absolutely right. It was a delicate thing in the trailer.

You know what I mean? And we also had the whole hair and makeup team, right? By that point, it was pretty big. Exactly. You know, and it's just, it's a delicate thing to be, to go back to coulda what or shoulda. to be at the end of that block, know that there's 20 extras. Frankel says action, and you know 25 feet from now, you have to cry. It's true.

It's true. It is an actor's a really hard thing to do. But I will say this, generally speaking, and this again is just growth, right? You know, I've been an acting class forever, you know, previous to this, right? Like, forever. And I don't know if you remember. It's a long time for an acting class. I mean, I was an acting class since I was like 10 years old, right?

till like even after college then I went to college for it. It was a lot of acting class. And acting class can kind of mess you up in a way, right? Because it's not exactly the same, you know, you know what I'm saying? It's a surprise. It's different. When you get on set. Definitely. But they also talk about raising the stakes, raising the stakes all the time, which I do think is important for comedy. That's how you make comedy work. It's like to internally raise the stakes, right? But that's a fine line to walk also. And early on before you came, I don't think you were there because I don't remember your face there. There I made me reshoot something. Did I ever tell you this?

I think I know this story, but it was the pilot, right? Yeah, no, not the pilot. I want to say like the first or second episode directed by that woman, that Lanky, independent film woman, Alison McLean, I believe. I feel, I could be wrong. I think it was up the butt situation where I have to tell the guy that I don't want to do it, you know, after the cab ride. Mm-hmm.

And. I wrote up the butt. Okay, got it. So I find it very hard to believe I wouldn't have been in the room for the up the butt scene. But let me tell you what Darren said to me because I don't remember your face in this event. Because I was not involved in the... Right, I think. So, basically, I had to reshoot it.

One of the only things I ever remember having to reshoot. Wow. Because I cried. And Darren was like, you don't care. And I was like, what? And he goes, you know, there's a guy around the corner. And I'm like, there is. Like, you know me, right?

Like, I'm just like, you're speaking Mandarin to me. I don't know what you're saying. Like, what? He's like, because he knew the show that he wanted to do, right, which was going to be like basically a guy a week, a guy in episode. Because I was like when I go to confess to the guy that I want nice sheets and whatever, and I don't want to be the up the gut, whatever. Up the gut, exactly.

That's too far. That's too. No one can write that. That's just not funny. That's dangerous. Definitely. That's how I perceive, obviously. And then I had to reshoot because he's told me.

you were too upset. You were too upset. And I was like, okay, so I had to go back and shoot. That's what acting class will do to you. Right. It's like everything is that, to have the deep, deep stakes. Do you mean? Yeah. So then when I, but then I think I had relaxed all of that, right? Because like being on a show, especially our show, which you have, you know, so many scenes like coffee shop scenes and this scene and that scene and so many different types of scenes where, and tell me what you think, I think that one of the reasons, like one of the, obviously coffee shop scenes very hard to film, very long. But when you watch them, so fucking enjoyable, right?

Because everyone is so present. Yeah. And that became to me like, I just want to be present. I'm going to have, of course, all of my underlying things. Look, it's all up the butt with season two. Oh, okay. It was season one. I think it's season one.

It was episode five or something. Oh, okay. Maybe it wasn't that then. Season one, episode four. Okay. Okay. So everybody's like, what is this? Totally.

You know, like, and the tone of anything when you get to the set, you're like, oh, I saw it a different way. Right. I've been so many surprised. I've been surprised. My whole journey has been going from no to I don't know. Like just you see something and it's not how you saw it. You thought it was going to go and you react. Rather than eventually you start to go, oh, is that better?

That's better. Or how can it be both? Right. So it's, but it's all new. It's all seventh graders putting on a show at the beginning. Everybody's just not knowing what it's supposed to be. Definitely. But by the time we got to the coffee shop scenes, and also I will say, the coffee shop scenes were the Rockettes.

You knew exactly what you were supposed to do. They were ratat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tot-tac. Five, six, seven, eight. Whereas a scene telling a man that you don't want to be, Mrs. Up the But. Right. is a weird. Definitely. Co-lab.

Yeah. Of comedy. Totally. Tragedy. Yes. Well put. So that's more open to, am I failing?

Right. Do we have it? Right. Is it done? Right. Right. Definitely. But the coffee shops,

boom, boom, boom, boom, I've been, I've been datings and I'm exhausted. Where is he? Definitely. Definitely. Everybody was fake eating or real eating in Cynthia's case.

Like a motherfucker, hitting their marks, nailing it because of the coverage. Everybody had to be concise. It was really choreography. Definitely. And it was usually a feast of ideas. Stuff. Where everybody had a different point of view and you knew who you were playing. Definitely.

Very clear what was supposed to be happening. Yeah, definitely. And in the coffee shop scene, in the coffee shop scene, in the, this one, very interesting departures, Charlotte's left the coffee shop scene twice. This time she gets up and leaves mad. And when Carrie's, when Samantha's talking about funky spunk, she gets up and leaves disgusted. Like that's, and Miranda says, and she's never coming back. That was a comedy one. This one is a painful one. She cannot be there. And she lowers the boom. Right, right, right. Let a residence in the room that we then cashed in on the whole rest of the episode.

Definitely, definitely, definitely. Do you remember when you had Cynthia eat and get stuff in her teeth? Oh, the olive topinade when she had the braces. Yes. And she had like that. Was that just so much fun for you? So much fun. She was so into it.

I remember being so concerned. Like, that's too much. I mean, I would be like that's too much. I know. No fear. No fear. I mean, there is, I don't know if I've ever told you this story. Oh, I can't wait.

There is the episode where she makes the cake. Okay. And she wants to have a cake. And she goes to a Paiard and the cakes are like $47. And she's like bullshit. And Miranda goes and gets a Duncan Hines cake. And she makes a sheet cake because she wants to have that cake. She wants to reward herself with a cake.

And the episode it was she can't stop eating the cake. She keeps cutting. The one where it goes into the trash. Oh, it's so good. And she calls Carrie and says after she, this was a duty told God rest her sweet, talented soul story of she couldn't stop eating things. So she threw the cake and the thing. And that wasn't even enough. She knew she'd take it out of the garbage.

So she puts palm olive dishwashing liquid all over it so she won't pick it out of the garbage. Oh, my God. And Miranda says, I'm calling you. This is your friend Miranda. I'm calling you from the Betty Crocker home instead of the Betty Ford home. Wow. But I didn't direct it. Alan Coulter directed, and he was an independent filmmaker, and he was a, I would say, a hot shot cowboy.

He had a lot of ideas and themes and things, and he was magical and funny, he wore pork pie hat and he was into it. And one of the few nights, I wasn't on set. And it was very late, and they were shooting the scene where Miranda just keeps cutting the cake smaller and smaller and smaller. But he saw, I've committed myself to the Betty Crocker. clinic and he ran with it so that he had Cynthia in a like stylized moment eat the cake, smear it all over her face, slide across the floor, put chocolate fingers up and down their walls. And I saw the footage and it was full indie film. It was Requiem for a Dream.

It was everything expressionistic. it was a, I think it was the phrase, big swing. Wow. And I was like, and Cynthia was, she had chocolate on her face. And she was, her fingers were going down the wall and she was in the corner and the camera. He had the handheld camera coming up.

Oh my God. Like she was possessed. And I saw it and I was like, what? Happened. What is this? And he goes, she went crazy. And I go, but she can't go crazy. She's a character on our show.

And it's one of the few things. And he said, but isn't it great? I said, it's great. But it can't go there. Wow. It's supposed to be a relatable woman evening, taking a piece of cake, open the refrigerator. So, I mean, we had to reshoot the whole thing.

Oh, my God. Yeah, we did that whole thing. And so it came in. She was in her pajamas and the character. And she came in, she walked by me and she said, wasn't good. And I said, no, it was. good if I'm committing Miranda to a mental institution the next day. She goes, thought it was fun.

I'm sure she did. Love. Run, run, run, run with it. I want it. Of course. It was just tone. Yeah, she will run with anything you give her. Which reminds me, we did talk to the lovely man that she vomited on, fake vomited, that we had to cut.

We cut it. Tell us about it. I mean, it was rough. It was the idea that Miranda gets so drunk that when she's having sex with this hot guy, The cop, the detective from the shoe. She's all up in her. And literally she's so drunk that she vomits down on him. And we had a, and I've always wanted to do it, we never pulled it off.

A giant pose. Because I always imagined as a comic director, the idea of incredible amount of on it. A comically invited. Did we not do it on then just like that? Come on. I'll tell you that story. Okay.

And it always has to have a, and we had this tube on Cynthia and she did it, but the tube kept going. And then it was like, well, this doesn't, it's too much. Got it. So then I tried it again on in just like that when Sarah Jessica's where Carrie goes on a day with John Tenney. Yeah. And we had the thing on her and it was like, just you could see it.

see it and it wasn't working and then she said i don't want to put that the guy from special effects wasn't good he was fired after that oh no there's a guy who came on vomit expert oh dear wasn't oh my and so we got rid of him but sarah jessica said watch and we had a giant two-liter thing of dinty more that's what the vomit was yes she she hugged it oh my god and then she like some animal. Oh. Made it come out. No.

Kept a second chamber. What? And did it again. No. And I was like, I don't know how she did that. I don't either. It was real. Oh my God.

She did it herself without the thing. Well, we're going to have to discuss this with her next time. She will never speak of it. And as a matter of fact, I should not be speaking of it. Really? But I think that's impressive. It was so impressive as a, this isn't working. She always knows when something is.

do what she has to do. She knows when something isn't working. She does. She does. She's like, this isn't working. Forget that. Give me the thing. That thing. And I was like, well, boom.

And the thing you see in the show is purely her. No way. I thought it looked fantastic. It was fantastic. She somehow went full and then somehow retained some and went full again because it was too. That's insane. I'm fine. She throws up.

I'm fine. She throws up again. Oh, my God. And she did it. Oh, my God. And then Tenis saw her. doing it. He was like, all right, give me some. And then he was like, he was doing it too. Yeah. Oh my

God. And that was like in the wee hours at some point. Yeah. I was not there, but I was like, that's like a callback. Yeah, that was rough. People lost their jobs and she saved the day. Wow. Amazing. Amazing. And I never heard the story. Thank you for telling us that story. I mean, she's amazing. She is amazing. But did you feel that you had achieved your, your, your funny comic vomit? I never did it the way. And the only people I finally saw it done. on the righteous gemstones. Oh, okay.

They had a scene where they found out that their father was probably not going to live, but he did. Okay. The four siblings were out in front of the hospital, and they did it perfectly. No way. And then another one,

but it was so... We need to find that vomit expert. So barcical, and it was belonged on their show, and not on our show. Got it, got it. I finally don't need to do that anymore because I saw somebody do it.

You're okay. Okay, good, good. So seeing it made you feel happy. Yeah, there's one other thing, as long as we're airing all the dirty laundry. Let's air it. There was one bit I never got into the show, which was a hard-on through boxer shorts. Okay. Because the scene where Charlotte surprises Trey drunk and he gets hard. Before they get married?

Yeah. Yeah. The thing that makes her think, oh, this will happen. Or it was after they get married when they were separated. I don't remember. I think is when they're separated. Yeah, yeah. She goes over.

Yeah, yeah. After, I go out with the girls and then I go to their house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Kyle came to the set and I said, here's this. And he had Ralph Lauren boxers. And I said, I want a giant tent of plaid. I vaguely remember this. And he was like, I'm not, I can't do that.

Then I'll have nothing. I can't do that. What does that mean? What did he mean? I'll have nothing. I mean, poor Kyle. Oh, he shouldn't. Kyle.

He showed up. to be Prince Charming. Totally. And I told him on the day, he's completely impended. Which is why he took the job because he thought, well, that's better than being just handsome. Right. But he thought that was too far. And I was like, God damn it, it's funny.

And I let go of it until I saw 40-year-old virgin. Oh, no way. Boxers and Hardoff. Biggest laugh in the movie. You know, what's funny, though, is when I was watching it, and this is the interesting thing about rewatching all this time later, I did have a memory of there's something being weird about watching that scene. And I was like, there's something weird about this because also we're supposed to kind of have sex standing up-ish.

Really, we come in as the sudden thing, right? Because that's his thing like... I mean, it was rare because you reached below frame, but there was nothing to reach to. Yeah. So we just... Like it was on CBS suddenly. Totally, yes. And I did think that.

I was like, why do we do that? Yeah. Kyle was such a great sport. It was just for one morning. It was a very early shoot. He was like, no. Got it. Got it.

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But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

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Listen to Drink Chams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Question I have about that. I remember, tell me if I'm wrong, that he was only supposed to be on like five in the beginning episodes. I don't have any awareness of that. Okay. Did you think?

Because it was all supposed to be, the way you described it to me, at least at first, was that, you know, Charlotte's got this goal, right? And she's like, hell bent. Like, we're going to get the goal. But remember how he was supposed to be boring? Like when we're on the boat with Big and Carrie carries, they're not together. Biggs on the boat. We're on the best boat in Hudson River. before is like, what's really happening here?

And Kyle, it's far from boring. There's nothing boring about him. So then it probably just became more and more and more and more and more. I mean, David Eigembert came in and audition for 10 men before Steve. And he was never the thing. And I kept thinking, who's that realistic guy? Definitely. What can we do with him?

He's so not an actor. Yes. And then we thought, well, Steve, the bartender. And just David came in and read it, but we wrote it for him. And Kyle was so much more than boring. Obviously. It's a little weird, though, with all that. All righty then.

He's a mama's boy. That's different than being boring. Definitely. But no, I mean, the more we got into the gold mine, then it became about the who's rubbing the vix on his chest. Right. It's just all became so sad and funny. So sad and twisted.

Franny, God rest her soul. Oh my God, so incredible, Franny. Became so real and Kyle was so real and Charlotte was so real at that point. But did you have the idea from the get-go of the mother of Franny being, funny, being? Yeah. Okay. So that was part of it. We had the part of the mother.

Got it. The man child. Right. Okay. So he was supposed to be a man child. Yeah. I mean, and the dueling Chanel's. The dueling.

Oh, me and Bunny. Bonnie. Yeah. I mean, you know. Yeah. We knew that she would be that upper east side, doyenne and that Charlotte would be in upper east side, not a doion. Got it.

But like, you know how it laid out and then I have to say what I'm worth and everything which we're not. Yeah. I'm worth a million. Yeah. Did you see? Did you have all that planned or did it just? By the time we were filming.

Yeah, but it becomes evolved. It only evolves off of, wow, Kristen is, let's just do more of that. Let's keep going there. It just keeps becoming more and more interesting. And we believed Charlotte was a real person. So when you believe someone's a real person and you have a permission to tell real stories. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, the heroics.

Yeah. Of her sticking up for herself and saying, I mean, Incredible. I remember also being very nervous about that. Yeah, fantastic. Yeah, I mean, because Charlotte was all very nervous. Like, who's ever been in that? Like, oh, it's so hard. Question also, just about character arcs and things.

How did it come about that you decided to have Samantha have the relationship with Maria? You know, when she decided to try to be a little bit. Because it was about sexual expression. Samantha's character was about being an adventurer and having no. judgment about sex at all. And so all of a sudden, the Maria character would have to be somebody who had a vibration. And Samantha followed vibration. She could almost sense sex in the room. So she was like, all right. I mean, it just became a color. And also, it was probably something that was, first of all, ahead of the curve. But it was also something that Samantha would probably allow

her self to experience. But of course, the whole thing was like so she could say to the three of you, ladies, I'm a lesbian. It was all for the reaction of you. And then the real reason we did it is to put up a spotlight on the fact that Samantha has intimacy issues. And it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. Definitely.

Well, that was the funniest part was like, you know, poor Maria trying to talk to her. Oh, yeah, trying to make her like a lesbian. being in love. Right, because they like to talk. You got to talk. No, no, no. It's too much. So, you know, we wanted to underline the male part of Samantha that people always thought she was kind of alpha. Right. It's like, ugh, these ladies in their conversations. It's always about turning over the stereotype. Like if we thought we were talking about men is bad, then we wanted to make Samantha be like what they complain about men. You know, like it's all about what else can we do that's funny. Right, which I love. And then you get somebody like Sonia Braga.

And she's like, well, that's believable. Totally. I mean, how did you get her? We were a very good show at that point. Right. Got it, got it, got it. We were kind of a show. For sure, we were a show.

I mean, if you ask any of these actors that I've had on who are in New York at the time, we were that from the first season, which is so funny because I don't remember that. You know what I mean? By that you mean a show in New York that was paying actors to act. That wasn't long order. A television show in New York was a very big shock. Yes, yes. Yes. That's the other funny thing to remember.

And you just reminded me of something I had Chris Albrecht on on Zoom. It was really fun. It was really fun. It was good. I mean. Brave. He was a brave man. He really was. He just kept saying it's hilarious. Forget it. I know. Just do your thing. I know. No notes. Right?

Great. And one thing that we- What a great champion for us. I know it. And for the ideas. Yes. And in general, not just for us, for the subprudence. Like, there are so many things that were happening, Larry Sanders before us. You know what I'm saying? There were so many things. But one of the things that we talked briefly about,

and I wanted to get your opinion on it, because, of course, it's interesting to hear from his perspective because I was having my own perspective, but I'm sure you were having yours. And, you know, we're about to have the Devil Wars Part of 2, right? Directed by David Frankel from our show and Devil Ware's Part of One. In Chris's mind, because I asked him something about, like, how, you know, the whole gestation of the Sex and City film

and, you know, the ups and the downs. I know. And, you know, how did it happen in your mind or whatever? And he said that when the devil was part of one came out, he was like, oh, that's our film. And I was like, oh, really? And he said, that's where I was like, oh, yeah, we've got to figure that out. I was like, okay. It's so interesting and random over there in that world, the executive world.

Did Downs were a product come out before us? Apparently. I mean, in Chris Albrecht's mind, can anyone check? I don't. I find that. 2007? Then yes. Six, then yes.

No, that's when the show ended. Our movie came out in 2008. Really? I believe so. Interesting. Yeah. Can anyone check? Pretty sure.

Yeah. Weird, right? Yeah. I mean, for us, emotionally, it's all. Well, you know, I mean, I don't know about that. I do know that every time a woman's movie does well, they opened the door for another one or two movies to come in. And then they forget that they did well.

Right. And then they're shocked. It's very convenient to forget that the budget was blank and it made blank. Yes. They forget all of that like it's an outlier. Oh, that's probably right. Delaware's Prada made money. And then they thought, well, what else can make money?

They wear clothes. But then it's up to us to make even have that moment. where the television show that became a movie that did a big thing. And then they forget again. Right. They're still forgetting. To this day, they're still forgetting. I'm sure Prada will do really well.

And then they'll be like, oh, all right, what else? What do we got? Definitely. I hope someone's ready with something. I mean, it's really interesting how they conveniently forget there's a female audience. How does it happen? It's insane and infuriating. And also now, the joy is, as Jenny was telling us,

the older female audience has the buying power. Like she had a detail about house buying. Because you remember that episode where Miranda's buying her apartment? Yeah, yeah. The Jenny boat is so brilliant, right? And, you know, because I'm always buying myself buying things, it still happens. You know, you have to just like, it's, you're just like, there's only one person who's going to sign this. Like, it's me, it's just me.

You know, it's very weird for people. But we talked about that and she said that, I believe she said that there's more single women over 40. or something like that buying houses than any other group or something crazy. So exciting. Those people can buy movie tickets. Hello. He did rivalry. Yeah, baby.

He did rivalry. You know, there's... That came out of nowhere. And that's the other thing. They always are surprised when women movies do well. Yeah. Because they come out of nowhere. Right.

They're specific. Right. And they're not whatever. Also, um... Feege's movie. Oh, housemaid. Incredible. Yeah.

Incredible. Amazing. So good. Does not translate to, uh, let's do 10 more of movies with female characters. Right. Damn it. Maybe it does. I don't sure.

I do it's all the business is. Maybe all. Yeah, of course he is. Right. But maybe it's a great movie and it's fun. It was a roller coaster to go see and people laughing and the women are smart and great and flawed and perfect. Yes.

Yes. But maybe it's all just the business is. contracting so it feels like, or is it? I'm not sure. I mean, technically it is, right? Like, technically the business is contracting. That's the conventional wisdom. I do think there's numbers to back that up, unfortunately. All right, everyone, guess what? We have more Michael Patrick King. So listen for part three this week. You know, it's just too much fun when he's here. So I just talk to him about everything. And thank you guys for listening. As always, join us again. for Are You a Charlotte?

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