Are You A Charlotte? - Sarah Jessica Parker

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

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and I wanna know, are you a Charlotte? Oh my gosh, it's so exciting. Everybody, welcome to Are You a Charlotte? Guess who my guest is. Sarah Jessica Parker! Do a little dance. Sarah, welcome. Thank you, Kristin.

And let me tell you, everyone has been, when is Sarah Jessica coming? when is Sarah Jessica coming? When is Sarah Jessica coming? Like so sweet. Oh, they're so excited. I hope I'm worth the wait. You're worth the wait, my love. Oh my gosh.

What will you pull out of me? I mean, I don't know, but you just being here is enough. You always pull quite a bit out of me. It's very leading and interesting. Very interesting. I'm so happy to be here and I'm so out of me. It's very leading and interesting. I'm so happy to be here and I'm so proud of you. And you talked in your recent episode about, you know, talking to all of us about this idea when it was presented to you and how excited you were about it.

And you said you couldn't remember the order, you know, with whom you spoke about the idea, not asking for permission, just talking about like how... And I do think you spoke to Michael Patrick first because we discussed it in a drug store. You were shooting the scene where... I'm not going to say anything actually. You were, we were shooting a scene for the current season and it was a pretty big scene that we had not been able to shoot. We were making up for it the current season. And it was a pretty big scene that we had not been able to shoot.

We were making up for it because it had been- Because I had COVID. That's right. It had been at the top of the season, scheduled very, very early. Or somewhat early on, sorry. Like middle of July. And so we were, that was one of those scenes

that we went to the, affectionately called the boneyard. And so there we were quite, and then you shared with me this idea, and which I thought was fantastic. And I mean, I knew it was going to be great, and I knew you would come so naturally to the idea, to the medium. But you're doing such a good job. Thanks, babe.

And I'm so proud of you. You've been such a great cheerleader. I mean, I don't know if everyone realizes. It's so easy to be your cheerleader. Thank you, baby! Because I love you so much. I love that so much. And I don't know, you know, it's the kind of thing where sometimes I think, because all of us have been together now for almost 30 years, and to me, it's really obvious, all of the personal relationships and the joys that we have of our personal selves,

but it isn't always so obvious because they're watching the show. And it's really interesting, and part of this is also like the New World Order, right? Like, things are so different now. And for me, I always feel like we did so much press. The whole time. I wonder, like, how is anything not seen and or understood? But the press, when you're doing it...

You're talking about the interrelationships that are not, that still are sexually kind of unknown. Yes. Yeah, like the fact that we have affection for each other. Exactly. Do you remember that time? I can't remember. Oh, I think we went to an AmFAR event for Kevin Huvane.

And then we went to the Abbey. Do you remember? Yes, I do remember that. And we couldn't get out. So there's very entertaining paparazzi pictures of us trying to get out and get to our car and Chelsea Handler was there. And do you remember like I had gone to check in with you,

like, are you okay? Do you want to go? And she was like, oh my God, you guys like each other. And I'm just like, yes? What on earth? It's mystifying to us how it's a mystery to others. Yeah. But that's a perfectly fine thing to correct. Like, if that's not as well understood as the stories, that's perfectly alright.

Right. Our job was the show. Yeah. And we have done that job with all of us, with every bit of our being now for 27, 28 years, whatever it is. But the thing that's joyful for me about the podcast, and really kind of the reason I wanted to do it, was because I felt like, okay, this is this thing that we did in 1997, the pilot, it like miraculously still has this life, which is amazing in so many ways and so incredibly gratifying. And I thought, wouldn't it be interesting to talk about

how all these different people came together, including our writers and our crew members, which I haven't really gotten on yet, but I'm creating a list and I need your input. Wow. Right? Yeah, there's much to discuss there. Right? And like came together to make this thing.

And I do feel like everyone that we've had for all of these years, like our job is not a job you can kind of halfway do. Like it's a full on intense situation. And everyone has brought like all of themselves. You know and there was a time in the olden days where like relationships went because of our show. Like things happened. It was so much... It infiltrated. It was asking so much in terms of just the hours and that it was problematic for some families.

Like it was, and it's such an interesting thing. And perhaps it's the case that, well, we know it isn't always, like it isn't always the case that people fold into each other so beautifully. And when I say that I'm talking about our crew who did work alongside us these extraordinary hours, 80, 100 hour weeks for years on end. So much so that it almost was like a badge of honor.

It was like this thing that we all shared. But yeah, it was, you know, it's problematic for a family life and but there is something really, so this idea of you wanting to touch on the crew feels like necessary because I think we all felt and continue to feel about this particular crew, and that's just such great good fortune,

that they were truly part of it in a way that could not have happened without them. And it's such a, it's like such a, you know, you can't plan it or plot it. Like if we had picked those people with knowledge and said, oh, you're the best, you're great, and you're gonna mature, and then you're gonna become operator, and then you're gonna become a DP, or you're you're great, and you're going to mature, and then you're going to become operator, and then you're going to become a DP, or you're going to do this, and you're going to do this, and we're going to promote from, and your personalities,

and you're smart, and you're shy, and what you bring in. Like, if we had planned it, it might not have worked. So it's lightning in a bottle. Right. But they are... All the kind of sentiment that we feel about that first chapter of being these characters is in no small way because of the entirety of the organism. Absolutely. They held us up. Like we were the faces. And I feel like we, it was an exchange.

Like it was a constant exchange of admiration. Absolutely. And a kind of favor, like a kind of debt that we passed back and forth to one another. Absolutely. And the fact that people still love the show, I feel like is honoring all of that commitment from all of the people that have been part of it for all this time.

That was the third party that completed it was the audience. So we had the casting crew and that meant our writers and our directors and then we had our crew, our working crew who were in front of us and behind us. And then we have the audience. And it was that pie that was cut up in those very consequential thirds. And everybody tried to do right by everybody else. Constantly.

And it's ongoing, which is the part that I find it's more gratification than I ever could have dreamt of because we were happy anyway, like when we thought we were going to be a small cult following back in the beginning. They used that word cult. Sorry. Didn't you learn your lesson? It's so true.

This is why I need to start just going to every episode. I have to stop using the clickbait word. I did not say that word. We thought we would be a tiny niche, a tiny niche show. You know what's so funny though? Tell me. Listening to you, I feel like you had thoughts. I had none. I agree and that's what I want to talk to you about.

You had so many thoughts and feelings and projections and you were far more like lucid about like a place and a time and I wouldn't say success so much so as like future. And I feel like you were far more like enlightened on landscape and you know and I just didn't so I never had a thought that it would be either seen and approved and a small audience would find it delightful and that would be enough or that it might reach larger numbers than small or boutique or niche. No, I didn't. I didn't think.

Wow. That's fascinating. I mean, I thought about how I felt about making the decision to do it, you know. Tell us about that. Tell us about the decision. Okay, Chris.. Tell us about that. Tell us about the decision. Okay, Christy. Please tell us. Because I love to hear about what was happening

in people's lives before we started. Because I don't always know. I know you've credited me with being a person that I was definitely, I feel like, oh my gosh, she thought I was like a New York. You were, come on. No. You were an eight girl baby. No. You were. No, no. Oh my God. she thought I was like a New York. You were, come on. No. You were an eight girl baby.

No. You were. No, no, I absolutely was not. No, absolutely not. You personally discovered Manolos and had more that I had ever even heard of when I met you. But I feel like, still the characterization, I feel like I was not, but I lived in New York

and I think that is a distinction that you were really drawing for both myself and Cynthia. And I think Kim too knew New York pretty well though. Everyone knew New York better than myself. Somewhat scattered. She had traveled, yeah. But I initially got, was asked about the show by my agent, Kevin Uvain, sent me,

either it was a phone call, I'm certain it wasn't an email, because this was 1997 or 96, 97. This is the plug-in situation. That's right. And he, so he sent me the script with a cover letter, a very traditional, for those of you who don't know what that is, there's a script and there's typically,

it's accompanied by a cover letter from your agent or whoever is submitting it and they'll explain, you know, this is a project, it's shooting in New York, you have been offered the role of blank, the producer is blank, the director is blank, or they have no director set yet. This is HBO, this is the studio, this is the network. And you were like, what?

So Kevin called me and said, Darren has asked about meeting you to discuss this. And he said he wrote this, like I was in his head in some way, which I found really interesting. Was perfectly happy to meet with him. And I did say I knew Darren Starr's name from Beverly Hills 90210 and Melrose Place. And I was pretty familiar with Candice's work as a reader of The Observer, which was a fairly well-known New York paper

that a lot of us reached for. Its distinction was that it was pink, which was kind of unusual. And coincidentally or not, I had been sent a copy of her book that Darren had then bought the rights to. And that book was a compilation of all of her columns for The Observer. And that book was a compilation of all of her columns for the Observer.

And so I did know that. And I don't know why I was sent a copy of the book, but I was and I enjoyed it. And there were some in particular, no. There were some in particular columns that I love. So I read the script and loved it. And I was doing a musical on Broadway at that time. Princess and the Pea?

I was doing Once Upon a Mattress. Once Upon a Mattress? I saw it. I saw it. And, oh, thanks. And I was going to get married. Oh, right. But in secret.

It was secret, yes. Yes, and I had a wedding date and I didn't really want to mess with that date. Of course. Because I kind of, I had understood that maybe it was shooting around the exact same time. Got it. And we had cleared that date primarily because all of our friends who worked in the theater only have Mondays off, so our wedding was on a Monday. And yeah. And so I met with Darren and I, you know, I told him I loved it and that I thought it was especially compelling.

And that I, you know, my only objections, and I feel like objections is almost too strong a word, I alerted him to the fact that I didn't do scenes nude, that I just, for whatever reason, right or wrong, I just never felt comfortable doing that. And he was like, well, that's, then we won't, then we shan't. And I said that I also wanted to be a little thoughtful about language, that I wanted to make sure that

Carrie cared about what words came out of her mouth, that if she was a writer and being thoughtful about her use of language in a column, even amongst friends where you can get purposefully sloppy, you know, especially if you're drinking, even amongst friends where you can get purposefully sloppy. Yeah. You know, especially if you're drinking, that I still wanted her to be somebody that wasn't just tossing around.

Swear words. Let's call them, you know, bad words. So those were the two things. Right. And the last thing I shared with him was, you know, I'm getting married on this date and we couldn't take a honeymoon because my husband was, my soon toto-be husband was shooting a movie anyway and I had to go back

to work to, once I put on a mattress the next morning, next day. And he was great about all of it and it was at that meeting actually that he said, you know, you should produce. It was like, I don't know how to produce. I've never produced anything. And he's like, well, of course you know how. You've been on a set your whole life, basically. And I said, yeah, but I don't, he's like, were you paying attention? Were you watching? Were you, I was like, well, yes,

cause I'm curious anyway. He's like, but I don't really think that I have that skill and I would feel very like a fraud. So he said, then be a consultant. So that's, that's how that started. I was gonna ask you. So we worked out all the dates and I actually closed the show on one day

and woke up the next morning and walked to the set of the, you know, or went to the set of the pilot. Yeah, which I believe was, is it possible? No, it wasn't. I can't remember where it was. But anyway, did the show the next, like woke up the next morning and went to shoot this pilot of this TV show. Yo, K-Pop fans, it's your boy, BOMHAN, and I'm bringing you something epic.

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and I knew my worth and my value as a mom. Come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to She Pivots on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. ["She Pivots"] This is what I want to know because in my mind, okay, so I was in LA, right? And I knew Darren, but we weren't working together. It wasn't like I was seeing him often, but he had sent me the script. And also, did you know that Cynthia also had read for Carrie?

Really? That should be so interesting. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I've known that, right? We've talked about this at some point. I never knew this. Okay, then I didn't know it either.

Yeah. I mean, I was shocked. Wow. And she said they were like, no, not really. Wow. So I feel like... I don't know why not... Well, well, I do. I mean, I feel like... And I mean, this again is like that magical thing that happens occasionally

that we are lucky to be a part of where none of us had read together. You know, it was this very kind of long process of casting the four of us. And yet, when we came together at the table read, which I don't also remember... I do. You do! Tell me what you remember. Hallelujah. I remember... I remember because

I knew Chris was, I knew everybody was. Cynthia and I, we can talk about Cynthia and I had been working together and kind of collegially friendly because we both have been actors actor our whole lives, basically. And so I met Cynthia, I guess when I was 12 years old. Wow. I think the first time we worked together,

the first time we worked together was when I was 13, or almost 13 and she was 12. She's one year younger than me, I think, exactly. Right, than both of us, right? Is this the Vanessa Red, right? Yes. Is this the Vanessa Redgrave? No. Okay. We did a recording of Little House on the Prairie

when they used to make records. Oh my God, what? For people, yeah. What were you? I played Laura and she played Mary. No! Yeah, she's always been the most, more sophisticated. Like every time we work together.

Unbelievable. I'm like the work together. Unbelievable. I'm like the slightly rogue. No. No, but she has a quality. But anyway, so. Wow, I didn't know this. I didn't know you. Right.

I knew who you were. Right, thank you. I didn't know Kim. I knew who she was. Right. Cynthia and I knew one another. And I knew who Chris was, I believe because of the whole Yale fraternity

of Yale drama school graduates. It was a thing in New York. Got it. Yeah, so that was kind of like- What about Law and Order? Oh, I definitely knew him from Law and Order, but I wasn't like, I didn't have like a standing date to watch Law and Order every week.

But there weren't a lot of shows shooting in New York. And he was kind of this, like I'd see him around. And so when we went to do the table read, I believe we did the table read far, far west. And it was very dark, a dark room. And I came up the stairs and the tables were set up in a big square. Kind of like now?

Correct. But in a far more less polished space, you know, exposed brick and not great lighting. And it was just felt more, it felt like we were doing a play reading, not a TV show or a movie. And I remember meeting Chris and he was, you know, had a big long raincoat on and, you know, messy trousers, but like, you know, appropriate. But I remember thinking, oh, he's really serious and he thinks I'm a Twinkie. Like he doesn't, this is nothing he did, nothing. This is the way I live a lot of my life,

is projecting onto like a cab driver, thinking if I say I'm an actor, he won't take me seriously. But if I tell the cab driver I'm a student, then he'll take me seriously, you know? Love it. But that, of course, was not the case at all, but I thought, you know, he is a Yale drama school graduate and he's like, you know, going to do this pilot where he's this guy and she's a girl and I'm going to have to convince him that I... But that wasn't the case at all.

I just remember that. That's super interesting. Anyway, but he was lovely, and everybody was lovely. It reminded me of doing table reads for plays that may or may not go. Right. Like it was like... Yeah. Interesting.

We just did a table read of a thing, and now then, you know, probably in ten days we're going to shoot it. Right. And then, we'll see. But then I forgot, I forgot all about it. What? What do you mean? I'm not kidding.

Forgot all about it. Okay. We shot the pilot. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill in. And that you're gonna fill me in. Yes.

But then you forgot about it? I completely forgot about it. In the very long time they took to pick us up. Which still irks me. But then you forgot about it? I completely forgot about it. Which still irks me. I can't even tell you that I thought it was a long time. Like it was perfectly fine. Yeah, you didn't seem to care. I didn't.

Do you remember running into me in the neighborhood in LA? No. No? Here's what I remember. Okay, wait. Tell me, tell me, tell me. I was walking down the street in New York City and it had been a while, but I was fine.

And a woman stopped me. She was a very pretty fancy, well-known producer. And she said to me, oh my gosh, I saw your show. I said, what show? She said, your pilot. And I was like, what pilot? And she told me the name of it.

And I was like, oh yeah, you saw that. How did you see it? And she said, I don't, you know, she had a reason. She didn't knock anybody over the head and steal it. Somebody sent it to her. She was like, it's really good. And I was like, oh. And I went on with my day.

And when the show was picked up, I panicked. Okay, tell us. Yes, I panicked. I was like, I can't be on a TV show. Oh, baby. I don't think I'm suited for that life. What do you mean exactly? Because I had been on television series in Southern California.

Which I forget. Yeah. I did a bunch. Yes, with Tenny and other people. I love that show. I had been on, series in Southern California. I forget. Yeah, I did a bunch. Yes, with Tenny and other people. I love that show. I had been on a few. Oh, and the Square Pegs. Square Pegs and A Year in the Life and Equal Justice. And I think I did a pilot for a TV series.

Yeah, the Alan King Show with some really great people. Okay. And I always liked the guard gate at the studios. I always thought that was very Hollywood. You know, like you drive on and Scotty says, hey, hello, Ms. Parker, or hello, Sarah Jessica, whoever you want to call me. And I always loved like, hey, Scotty, you know, I love driving and then they have a parking space and- Yeah, I like that part too. Then you walk through the canyons of a studio

and you know, this shot here and this shot here. And it was just kind of incredible. Yeah. But it also, it's very hard to explain. It also kind of depressed me. And I think that it was the idea of doing the same thing over and over and over again. And I think I'd always been lucky that I got to be on a television series and then it was over.

Like, I met great people, had a great experience, worked with great actors, great directors, thought the stories were interesting, wanted to do the shows, and they had shorter lives, maybe one or two seasons, and then I moved on, and I would do a play, or I'd do some readings, and then I'd do a part in a movie, and then I'd do a movie of the week. And I just kind of bounced around,

and I really thought that is the goal. Like the journeyman is the goal. Right. You want to be moving. You want to be doing a reading of a play on 42nd Street and then walk over to your theater and do your play. And then you wake up the next morning and you've got a part in a movie. So you shoot the movie for a few days, you get back from your matinee, you know, like, that to me was having it all. And so the idea of a television series meant that I couldn't do all those things

and that I would get in the same car every day. And it just kind of felt like somebody was, you know, putting their hand over my mouth or something. It was very weird and, you know, wrong. Absolutely wrong. Well, not that wrong. Well, I mean, it does kind of hinder your journeyman. Kind of general.

It is. People can do things and there are hiatuses. Of course. You know, and I talked to my agents and I said you know hey can you get me out of this and I said this is after the pilot yes when it was good when it was gonna be picked up got it and I said here's what I will give my services to HBO to fulfill my contract so if they any movies I'll do for X number of years.

And I will. And so I went into Kevin's office and then this wonderful legendary agent at CAA who had kind of run the television department for years, Lee Gabler, I think his name was. And he was oh, so handsome and sophisticated, wore a suit and these shine shoes every day. And he was really like a sight. Yeah.

And so he indulged me. And, you know, he was like, well, you know, of course we can talk to, but, you know, it can be wonderful. It can be great. Okay. And the beauty of HBO is that it was kind of an unknown species.

Very unknown. It had been discovered in the wilderness by like anthropologists or something. They said, and he had word from, and Chris Albrecht said at the time, so do it for a year and if you don't want to do it anymore, we won't do it. Aren't they so smart? I was like, oh, and then they hired Barry, who I knew from working with David Frankel. He produced Miami Rhapsody.

How did I forgot that? And then we started meeting and talking about Pat Field and all of a sudden it didn't feel like the same thing. It felt like a brand new, exciting, completely unknown. Like somebody was offering me a menu of food that I'd only ever heard about. Yeah. Like maybe I read about these items on this menu, but I'd never, no one said I could ever taste them

or I'd be near enough or I could get into the restaurant. And so it went from being this like, kind of like oppressive idea to this like, endless possibilities. And the first day that we started shooting as a series, to this like endless possibilities. And the first day that we started shooting as a series, the location was up the street from my house. And I remember being in the shower,

setting my alarm clocks and everything. And I remember being in the shower, I literally remember washing my hair. And I was like, day one, day one, I can walk to work. Well, that's unusual, that's really special. I'm not driving onto a lot. I'm not getting onto a freeway and hoping I get myself there.

And I walked up to the location, which is the Banana Republic on Sixth Avenue. That was the first day. And bleaker, first day. Wow, wow, wow. And I never looked back. Amazing. And I was never not happy to be there.

Amazing. There was no place I would rather have been than on our set every single solitary day. He gives me chills, He gives me chills. you straight into the heart of K-pop. We're talking music reviews, exclusive interviews, and deep dives into the industry like never before. From producers and choreographers to idols and trainees, we're bringing you the real stories behind the music that you love. And yeah, we're keeping it 100, discussing everything from comebacks and concepts to

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This isn't just a podcast, it's a movement. Are you ready? Let's go. Let's go. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko.

It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples

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If she is passionate about becoming a mother and she has her eggs frozen and she has her life together, go for it. She could be waiting another 10 years before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what, 50, Connie? How long have you guys been together? Yeah, no, 52.

52. 52. I adopted my son as a single mom because I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did.

I want to change the narrative about single parents and also help to create a community for single parents so that they can not feel alone in it. One of the big things is it's so hard, especially for women, to ask for help. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. And I'm excited for my next episode with Khloe Kardashian.

God, I've been through so many things that at this point I would rather not feel than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle. All right, we're ready. I am Khloe Kardashian. Khloe Kardashian, everybody. Khloe Kardashian. No one understands how it's, I'm not just a TV show.

There would be times that I was like, I don't even wanna go out to the grocery store because I feel like I know what they're thinking about me. And that was scary to me because I've never been in a dark place for that long. You've always taken care of others. Have you discovered anything about why you've seen yourself take on that role in so many relationships in your life? How do you even find the courage to trust again?

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job or a place or a relationship? Join me, Emily Tish Sussman, over on She Pivots, where I explore the inspiring pivots of women,

dig deeper into the personal reasons behind them, and leave you with the inspiration you need to make your next pivot. In honor of Mother's Day, we have some very special guests. I'm Elaine Welteroth. And I'm Caitlin Murray. Both women pivoted out of their careers after having their kids, proving that motherhood is just another chapter in our journey, not the end.

It's kind of like, will you have more babies? Yes. Will I always be me? Yeah. And will I continue growing? Yes. Because I was really in the trenches and I knew my worth and my value as a mom. Come on over to hear their full stories. trenches and I knew my worth and my value as a mom.

Come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to She Pivots on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The thing that I think is amazing about that story, first of all, didn't know the story exactly. I knew that there was a time that you'd possibly had cold feet because you had had this very dynamic career in terms of being able to do films and do television and do theater, which, of course, was all of our dreams at that time.

Yeah. And television also had kind of been this not super exciting place, which you're kind of alluding to. Whereas I do feel that we were making something that had not been made. It was, it was brand new. It's not just that you felt that you were at a very brand new and exciting restaurant. You actually were.

We all were. We had the good fortune to land at the right time, at the right place. I was just watching on the plane and thinking about you. There's a Ted Turner documentary. Yes. Oh my God. I wish I could, I want to see that. It's on Max.

Okay, great. Easy to watch. And it's so... I was signed out of my Max account by my family. Like I don't exist on my Max account. It's pretty distressing. They do, but you don't? They didn't even used to have like,

it's the only time I've ever made like a joke profile. And it's not even me, it's Andy. It's Andy's picture. And then it just says you with an exclamation point. But I was so proud that I could even navigate that. Wow. That's not important. It's all working.

Okay, well maybe Andy could sign in and watch the Ted Turner documentary. Yes, yes. I'll watch on Loretta's. So amazing. Oh great, Loretta works. I mean, James was watching it, I know. Right?

He was watching our show because we talked about it. Yeah, he's watched a little bit. Okay, not the whole thing. Yes, not the whole thing, no. We lost James along the way. No, it just keeps going, you know, college. He's in college. Of course he's in college.

I get it, James. You're forgiven, okay? You're forgiven. We'll catch you up though in the summer. Maybe in college. Of course he's in college. He has other things. I get it. He's forgiven, okay? You're forgiven. We'll catch you up though in the summer. Maybe in the summer. Yes. Oh my God.

Yes. Wow. Back to HBO. Ted Turner. Do you remember the time that we went to Nevis and we went with the Cable Cowboys? 100%. It was so incredible. 100%.

And it is so incredible now to think about it. I remember all of that and I remember not one day of shooting the show or the stories. But I remember every trip we ever made for the Super Bowl. Oh my God, the Super Bowl trips. And to entertain our cable distributors. Right, and our cable distributors were so important to us. The Wild West, yes. Because at that time it was the Wild West and in truth, they created something that had not been created before.

That did not exist. And Ted Turner basically spearheaded that entire thing, and to watch him, and the passion with which he talks about it, and the commitment. Like, it rings so many bells for me, because at one point he said he... There was all this competition from the... It was a three network time, right? ABC, NBC, CBS. And when the cable community, the cable world was just starting, he just basically just dreamt it up.

And then at one point, the networks were trying to stop him. And they were trying to make a competitor to CNN, the first 24 hour news channel that Ted created. They were trying to get a competitor, ABC was, or Westinghouse, CBS and Westinghouse. So during Christmas, they were going to take two weeks off for Christmas before they launched and went out to the ad sales. And so Ted was, he called everyone in his company, he said, Christmas is canceled. You have to go out and sell those

ads. And they'd sold it to every single cable operator, the cable cowboys. And they didn't have Christmas, but they saved the company. And he would get tears in his eyes talking about the commitment that it took from everyone in that company to build. It was started as the turn of broadcasting, then it was CNN, eventually it turns into Time Warner. I'm watching the progression and I'm thinking about our part in that and how we were in some ways,

we were like the spawn, the child of it, we got to reap the benefit of what they built and we also got to spend time with a lot of those people. Yeah, it's kind of amazing. Right? Like John Malone, like people who are now almost this dying breed in terms of... I believe the Cox family was there. Yes!

All the important players. And it was so interesting. Just give a little, a quick little summary of this. So HBO had this idea to put basically all of its cast on a plane and build this weekend. Sopranos and us. Yes. And a couple other shows as well. Arliss?

Yes, and some of their sports people, Jim Lampley and some others, and they would put us on a plane willingly. Like we weren't taken against our will. And they would, we would have this weekend around Super Bowl Sunday, and we would basically be brought to these wonderful locations that most of us had never been, nor could we afford, and we would basically be brought to these wonderful locations

that most of us had never been, nor could we afford, nor we would even think about going to the Four Seasons in Nevis. And then we would just sit around and chat with all these local, local, local cable owners. And these were the guys, and I say guys because it was guys, with some exceptions. There were families that had matriarchs where maybe the money had initiated, but regardless, it was a predominantly male room with their wives and children sometimes.

And they had basically, it was kind of the way, Sprint and all those other things birthed as well. They were basically just taking cable and nailing it up, you know, like in really kind of a rogue fashion. Yeah. But they were having success. Right. And they could feel that it was this growing thing.

But they were charming and it was fun for us. It was really fun. We all got to be with each other because typically we weren't, like there wasn't interdisciplinary stuff happening. Yes, yes, yes. We weren't intercollegiate. Right.

And so we got to be with Lorraine Bracco and Edie. So much fun. And all the Sopranos cast and Arliss himself, he was there. And I think, I don't think the Dream On cast at that point was there. I don't think so. I cast at that point was there. I don't think so. They might have been gone by then. They might have been gone by then, but there was somebody else.

I want to say Bill Maher, no. Larry Sanders? Could have been. Could have been Gary. Some of that, maybe. I can't remember. I feel like it might have been Bill. Might have been Bill.

I think it was Bill Maher. Because it wasn't just one time, right? No, it was multiple times. And there was also Aspen Comedy Fest, where many people were as well. But like for me, when I think about it, I mean, we have so many gifts have been given to us along the way. But that's one of the gifts was that we got to kind of have this seat to watch this whole development of the cable industry be a big part of it

that we never could have foreseen. And then also now we're watching it change again, and we have pivoted again, which I give you and Michael Patrick so much credit for, having the foresight to say, maybe we could come back as a streaming show. I mean, thank God. Thank God you said that.

And then we did our films, of course, which I'm way ahead of ourselves, because we're going to go back to the beginning. But I do, when I watch this Ted Turner, I'm so just inspired and impressed. And it's so good to remember that through change, you can succeed. You just have to dream. You have to dream and follow your dreams. You can't get down because it's hard not to get down. I think the thing that sits around, I say that kind of looking back, and I don't know

that we would have had the words at the time to characterize it, but I think now, oh, you know, everybody was just kind of doing what they wanted to do. Yeah. And it was an unusual circumstance or scenario really, wherein a studio and the network were one in the same. Yep. And they were just saying, basically, Chris and Carolyn, you just go and everybody at HBO, so Eric and Courtney and Plepler and all the people that were on the corporate side and marketing and PR strategy, they were all saying, you just go do what you do. We trust ourselves. Right.

It was the ego involved, and I say this with admiration, not with condemnation. It was their sense of their confidence in their choices that liberated David Chase and certainly Darren and then Michael Patrick. That they, I mean, sure there's notes. There's always notes on a script, and there's always issues with money, and there's always budget stuff to talk about. But those are to be expected, and you want some parenting,

like you need some parenting. But for the most part, it was their own confidence in their artistic sensibilities. And the same, therefore, with everything that surrounded it, which is what is compelling and makes something grow. And the minute you have to start paying attention to outside stuff and you're producing and picking based on results,

that's where things are not as interesting. So I feel like all of it was happening at the same time without them even realizing. Like I wouldn't have said at the time, wow, you're confident people. Wow, you really believe in your own ideas. Right, no. You really trust.

Therefore, you're gonna let everybody, basically speaking, just go off and make shows that were not 30 minutes long. They were not 30 minutes long. They were 32 minutes long. They were, you know, like. 28 minutes long, whatever they not 30 minutes long. They were 32 minutes long. They were, you know, like 28 minutes long, whatever they were. Right. But that is a huge amount of, and that's the way the company grew. And that's why it was so felt revolutionary in terms of its programming. They were the first people that said, Oh, we're going to program. We're

going to counter, we're going to do, um, you know, counter programming. All of our fresh material is going to be on the summer. Everyone else is in repeats. Right. So what we're going to do is we're going to put on programming starting Memorial Day weekend or that we're going to capture those women, men, whoever they are, they're still here, there, or elsewhere. And they're thinking they're on holiday, and we're going to start giving them information on Sundays at nine o'clock. That was not a space. That was for your family programming. Inventionally speaking, that's what the network said. Sunday night was wild kingdom. I'm going to say little house on the Prairie, but I can't be certain. But you know, my point is that was like, maybe Matt Lott, like procedural. Yeah. And HBO said, no, we're gonna make Sunday night dirty, naughty, unpredictable. We're going to talk and tell a story about a man named Tony Soprano who is-

Kills people. Who kills people and you love him. And he's gonna go to therapy each week and we're gonna sit with him in this quiet space. They were after us, I wanna make sure. We were first. But also we're gonna tell a story about these particular women in this city at this time

and this is how they talk and this is how they... But they didn't, they weren't saying it like that. They were just responding to material. Absolutely, they were just putting it out there. So they took that, I hate the word space now, but that it existed. Yeah. It was a white space, literally like they say in retail. Like there was a white space and someone was like, hmm. And Chris and everybody and Carolyn, they were like, wait a minute, Mr. Bukas. Yes. They, so it was, but there were a lot of parts and things that like had to exist for everybody to be able to do it.

So there was the money, intellectual and the artistic and the actual real estate to do it. And they just did it. And it was like, what? I know. And amazing that it worked. Yeah, but we know what he was thinking, that we certainly weren't. No. We were just trying to do the best we could. Sarah, Jessica, we could talk forever, as you know. So let's take a little break here.

And you guys, we will be back for another episode of Are You a Charlotte? This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Connie Britton is here. I think you should encourage your friend to go ahead and not be holding out for any man to have her babies. She could be waiting another 10 years before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what, 50 Connie? 52.

52. 52. I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy. I finally was like the guy, I'm gonna meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it, and I'm just so glad that I did. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. Those were some callers from my call in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take phone calls from anonymous strangers as a fake gecko therapist and try to learn a little bit about their lives.

I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's very interesting. Check it out for yourself by searching for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Yo kpop fans Are you ready? It's your boy BumHan and I'm bringing you the K-POP actor the podcast that takes you straight into the heart of kpop We're talking music, idols, exclusive interviews and even the real behind the scenes kpop stories Plus you the fans you're part of the show and you can get a Plus, you're the fans, you're part of the show. And you can get a chance to jump in, share your opinions, and be part of the conversation like never before.

And trust me, you never know where we might pop up next. So listen to The K Factor starting on April 16th on iHeartRadio Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. This isn't just a podcast, it's a K-pop experience. Are you in? Let's go. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose Podcast. is a K-pop experience. No one understands how it's, I'm not just a TV show. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

you get your podcasts. I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? Because it's a question that we rarely ask ourselves. All of May is actually Mental Health Awareness Month, and on the psychology of your 20s, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about. Prepare for our conversations to go deep. I spent the majority of my teenagers, my 20s,

just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend. So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of your wellbeing. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart podcast.