Are You A Charlotte? - SARAH JESSICA PARKER IS BACK!

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Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Guess who's here? Are you shooting now? Yeah, this is how it goes. Oh, wow. There's no action. There's not even an action.

I know. It's magic. That's nice. It's a super. kind entry. Yes. It's very nice. It's very Kristen.

If you can't tell by her voice, Sarah Jessica is here. I'm here. I know you can tell. It is a joy. As I told her when she walked in. Thank God we have this so that I can see her face to face. It is wonderful. And I have been, I literally have so many things to talk to you about that I don't even

know where to begin because I have been fully steeped in season three and season four, which I know that you don't watch. but I need to represent to you the unbelievable brilliance. And I'm not, I'm not kidding. It is, I cannot believe that we made the show that we made. Wow. That's how I feel. Wow.

It floors me. Really? I had Julia and Elisa on yesterday because we got to my motherboard myself, which was their first episode, their first TV job. I mean to think, now, as you've already stated, and I can just emphasize again how little I recall, which at this point might be purposeful, but I do recall a lot about my motherboard myself

because I think a large number of us didn't even know what a motherboard was. 100%. And so there was that, which was just understanding motherboard. Yes. But also TechServe, yes. Featured prominently, which is gone,

which is so sad. Yes. And that was the episode. Is that Cynthia's mother? Yes. Yeah, wow. Yes. Yeah, I can't believe that was their freshman script.

Unreal. Yeah, it was such a, you know, such a declaration of, you know, here we are. Yes. We're hugely talented. And they just had, it felt so right that they had been given that script. Absolutely. I might be so smart about that. talk through that process a little bit, like how did they come? He had it on the whiteboard as

Miranda's mother will die, which was a huge departure for us. We had not at that point done anything than... It's a million, really. Right. And as Aastiff, who came earlier today, was saying the whole episode is about grief. Yeah. Right? Because you lose your writing. Yeah. Which is your identity, you know, to a huge extent. And also a little bit earlier in the season, in my mind, And Michael Patrick's coming next week. Oh, great. I know.

I can't wait. In Los Angeles? Yeah, yeah. Oh, how great. I can't wait. I saw him when he got honored for the human rights. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So, whatever it is. It was amazing. Like, just the, you know, he put a clip together. It was so incredible. And, of course, I cried. And I was, you know, I might cry again, but it's just so incredible to have been part of all of it, you know? Yeah.

And just doing things because we wanted to do them. I know. not really realizing the history and the repercussions and the connectedness and the chatter and the peripheral feelings. I think that wasn't a singularly unique time, but relative to the ways in which we live now and experience and absorb culture, it was, it feels like it was, you know, almost like a newborn baby. There was so little cynicism about work and, you know, reception. And I think, so, you know, lots of television shows had come and gone, great shows, lesser successful,

meaning shows had success. They had disappointment. They failed. They were monumental and consequential. But I think what was unique was that HBO, to your point, didn't care about reference. They were just doing what they wanted to do. So if there was any reason to be rational about choices,

well, don't do that because this show didn't have. have luck when they did that or there was a really strong reaction or there was controversy that just wasn't the way they made decisions and that kind of ego filtered down to the shows, which was if you could afford it, for the most part, go ahead and do it. Amazing. Like if you can fit that inside our budget. Right. Every now and then you had to beg for rain, you know.

Yeah. But I think that was just a massive advantage of the times in which we lived. Absolutely. And that time at HBO where it was new enough to be almost reckless. Yeah. And there was like a decadence to making television. Yeah. And like it's hard to even really fathom the differences now, which, you know, I don't even,

that would be a different podcast. But I'm so happy that we were able to create in that. But I also feel like the choices that were made and you were a huge. part of that. And I wanted to talk a little bit about that because one thing that I do notice, and I was aware of this at the time, but not fully, right? Because I was just in it and trying to do the best I could do and trying to wear the shoes, blah, blah, blah, you know, trying to stay awake when I had to or whatever. Your credit, you know, is at the point where it's changing, right? Like, now we're co-executive producer. And originally it was consultant, correct? What was that like

and what was your thinking about being part of the decisions? So when I met initially with Darren in 96, 97, right? Because we shot the pilot in 97, correct? I think so, and it was on the 98. Yes. So I met with him and we met at Eli's, I think, that version of Zabars on the Upper Side on Madison, which was a very, and continues.

to be a very fancy, but maybe some might argue, the greatest egg salad in New York City. And I was very happy to meet him there, understanding that typically that lunch is going to be paid for, you know, if you're invited. Totally. And we talked and talked about this show and this idea and this pilot. And he said to me then, and, you know, you should produce the show at that first meeting.

And I said, I don't know how to produce a show. And he said, how long have you been on set? How many years have you been on sets? And, you know, I sort of thought about a number. And he said, you know how to produce. You just weren't paying attention. You just weren't thinking I should be watching for this reason. You were simply watching.

I'm putting words in his mouth, but that was the essence of the conversation. And I was, you know, hesitant because I felt ill-equipped, and I didn't want to walk on a set in a position of authority, entitled or any reason without feeling like I, you know, had the street credit. And he said, why don't you just be a consultant the first year? Just be a consultant, go to meetings, listen and learn. Which was so wise and such good counsel. And also just, I think, enormously generous because it did, in many ways, offer me a second career.

Like it paralleled the work of my life as an actor, but it allowed me to learn something else, which I think is invaluable, whether or not I chose to do anything with it. But what I discovered is I love producing. And I thought producing was really also just simply about math, which I had basically failed. Like as a student, I tested very poorly in math.

I panicked over math, math tests, very poorly on my PSATs. as if I never entered a classroom in my life. That's how I tested. And of course, what I came to learn also is that producing is people. It's people, people, people, people, people. And you can learn budget. You can learn union laws.

You can learn, you know, overtime, golden time. You can learn wages. But how you handle that information is far more important than balancing the checkbook in a way. if you're a responsible person anyway. Does that make sense? Yes, very much so. So I didn't know any of this. It's super, super fascinating.

So in the beginning, the consultant was something that was Darren's idea. And you were kind of like, okay, I don't want to overstep my bounds. But then as time went on, how did it become a larger and larger part? I think what happened is when Michael took over season two, correct? Yeah. There's always like this mystery. Do we make that up? and he and I just had a kind of affinity for one another

and I think because he was assuming a really important critical role and I was kind of changing the way I was interpreting my job outside of acting we sort of, there was a kind of alignment, and I think we felt we needed each other. And therefore, my work as a producer became more important because our collaboration felt so necessary and important. And I think he was looking for someone to talk about ideas and feelings and scripts. and pictures and colors.

And I was looking to learn more about his work and how I could be a good and helpful partner and co-producer or whatever I was called at that point. Yeah. And so I think the more you listen and learn and the more you're able to be a good collaborator and hear people who've done it longer, know more, the better partner you are.

And so I think that season two, we just started understanding our roles more clearly, if that makes sense. It totally does. And you're just much more invested. The more responsibility you have two people, to a company, to a partnership, the more important those choices in those conversations become.

Right. The thing for me that's interesting in terms of observing it, right? I think I've talked about this before. I don't know if I've talked to you about it, but I remember so clearly the pilot. I don't know if you remember this. When we go to the Chinese restaurant, it was like our first group scene, basically. I do remember that. And this is when you still had to talk to the camera.

And it was super stressful. It was very strange because you had to take yourself out of the scene and talk to a mystery person in the camera, but yet you were talking to yourself. Right. And I'm sitting there and I'm just all like, whoa, you know, that's my general feeling at all times and obviously very nervous also usually. And I remember a conversation that you had with Darren about the talking to the camera. And I thought you were completely right on because I knew as an actor, how would I even do that? Yeah. It's a very strange thing.

Yeah. Right. And we've talked about that before. Yeah. But what I remember being so impactful for me was how you spoke to Darren. Because you, you know, he was in charge and I had only ever known. him in the other world, network world of Melrose and whatnot. And it's not like he was, you know, a autocrat or anything, but he was like, I want you to do this. Like, let's try this, you know,

whatever. And you were just very calm and talking to him. You were. You were so calm, but you were very clear in a way that I hadn't really seen other actors do at that point because I had not been, like our creation was different. You know, it was different from the beginning, right? And, and you had a back and forth with him. And I was like, yes, she's right. She's, right. Because it was wacky, you know, when he was asking. And sometimes Darren would just have an idea, you know, like.

Which is good and welcome, of course. Of course. But sometimes it would be strange. Like, I remember one time later on, maybe in season one, you're looking through a window at shoes and suddenly, like, basically an emoji appears on the screen. Is that right? Yeah. And you're just like, wait, what's happening?

And do you remember how they used to do, like, split screens when we were on the phone or whatever? Yes, yes. And then they move like Brady Bunch? Yes. He's just like, wait, what is happening? I forgot about that. I mean, it was him trying stuff out, right?

There's nothing wrong with that. But it's also like, you're just like, wait, wait, wait, what? What's going on? Are like sparkly stars going to show up next? Like, what is happening? Which brings me to one thing I'm going to ask you about in a second. But the thing that I love and that really, the reason that I still think about it is that I loved the way that you spoke to him from a place of like calm power,

not power power, of like, it will be my way. And he wasn't saying that to you either. It was, I'm in my skin, and this is how it feels, and this is what I'm worried about. I'm worried that it's taking me away from the group scene, which is really important. And from your instincts, there was nothing more important if you think about our trajectory, right? Yeah, I think that if he had not in our initial meeting, if he'd not been so hospitable to me just in general, but also the ways in which he felt like I could and should do this part, I probably would not have had the courage

to share with him when something didn't feel good. Right. And I think in particular, the talking to the camera, for me felt really problematic because I think, as I said at the time, it's extremely hard to do well. And as I, as, you know, I repeated, my husband did it in a movie and he did it extremely well. And it felt like a kind of,

device that suited that movie so perfectly and I don't have to go into all that but if the thrust of our show as I understood it at that time were these kinds of intimacies and conversation and the necessity of these friendships and the fact that it was a column if the human exchange weren't so important Yeah. And maybe if we were a three camera show, you could have felt like a kind of buoyancy around that that would be funny. And maybe the audience could like start getting involved with it. And you could like almost like score it with music.

Like you could do a whole thing with it. But to be a single camera show at that point darkly lit, like cinematic, it felt like the Sesame Street. Like one of these things is not like the other. It didn't, so I think my argument at the time was I think it's hurting what you're really trying to do, which is the thing that matters most to you. And I don't think I'm doing it well, which is also problematic. And it's not going to be good. I think it's going to hurt the show.

Right. And you were 100% right, in my opinion. But what I loved about it was that you were fully invested from the get-go, and I don't think you know another way to be, right? I only barely met you that day, you know what I mean? But like that's just who you are, which is a beautiful thing. And what also I feel like as time went on and your title grew and basically what you're saying is that Darren kind of planted the seed. And then you and Michael had this kind of meeting of the minds and souls, right?

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I hope and I pray that you will. Like, I'm so happy that you never get sick and I don't want you to ever get sick. But let's say sometime you pick up a virus or whatever and you're at home. Do you mean? Yeah. This would be an excellent way to feel better, I think. Okay. Because having the distance now that we have.

Yeah. Because I always watched it right away when we got it because it was so exciting, right? And remember we used to get the VHS and they weren't always complete. Like there might be a card or a temp music or whatever. You know what I mean, right? Yeah. So now, and I thought I knew a lot and I do in some ways. But like I was trying to get ready to come here yesterday and I was doing my makeup while I was watching my motherboard myself.

And Sir Jessica, it floored me and I cried my makeup off. Wow. It is so good. Oh. It is so, like, beautifully crafted and created and acted and all of the things, but also it's about loss and we're little babies. Yeah. We don't really know.

Yeah. But yet it's present. Yeah. And that made me just so moved, you know? Yeah. Like, it's hard, but it's also great. Do you what I'm saying? And I kind of just don't know how we did it.

Like, I mean, it's just this miracle that everyone came together. and was able to create a situation, which I think you and Michael, through your partnership, it bled down, right? That everyone was included, you know, like in the storytelling, like Julian and Lisa, who were so young, could just walk in and write that script.

I can't believe it. Right? And that was Michael. What were their memories, or do you not want to spend time talking about that? No, no, their memories are great because what their memory, they're so adorable and funny.

How old were they? I mean, I should have asked them because I didn't ask them. They're like, 20s? Yeah. Really young. And they had been go out in LA meeting. They had a pilot and their agent told them to go meet, Darren started the next morning.

They were like, no, sorry, we've got a flight. And he was like, you're going to change your flight. And you might have to sleep on someone's floor. Right. So they had to sleep on their friend's floor. Right. They were little kids. Do you know what I mean?

But they're also so adorably grounded in themselves that they were like, no. Yeah, of course. And then Darren, and then they came to the writer's room. And then Michael did his magic of, you know, like. like cultivating them and giving them the confidence, but also they told me a funny story that he would pop his head in their office door and be like, you're fired.

Just to keep everyone on their toes. And they had the office at Silver Cup. I remember their offices. I think they were upstairs above Michael. Yes, above the floor where we would do most of the stuff. The upper, like the second mezzanine. Yeah, the upper weird floor. Sometimes you'd get off and you'd be like,

wait, where am I? Yeah, it was so strange. up there, right? And they also talked a lot about Jenny and Cindy and the kind of female bond and that they were there first and they were kind of senior to them and really helped them. And it's so beautiful to hear about. Yeah. It's incredible. And soon we'll have Amy Harris and we'll have Liz To Chillo. We're getting to them. Oh, great. It's so much fun to think back on and just like. Yeah, and Amy will be super interesting because she was there really from the beginning, you know. Right. I don't think I'll say this to her, but I remember her carrying Darren's suitcase. Oh, yeah. She was his assistant.

Like she was, I mean, like it's amazing. It is amazing. Her trajectory. Yes. It's really, and now she's a showrunner. And impressive in so many ways. One of the things, you know, you talk about, you know, a kind of, and when you talk about the work being good, which is so nice to hear, I remember the church. I remember, obviously, tech serve.

I remember wrapping the computer in a scarf or something. A Peshmina. A Pashvina. I think is Becky Ann Baker in that episode? Yes, she's the sister. It's the first time we see her, yes. So, you know, and I think we've discussed this before, but it bears repeating. It's not as if it was, you know, completely free of any complexity, but it was so happy.

Like, I think of being in that church for countless hours and all the background players that were there all day long. Yes. And just the kind of working environment, it was funny and fun and the crew was always laughing and working the hardest of everybody, you know. Yes, yes. And big equipment in those days, bigger. Those big, big, huge lights and big cameras with film and real film and loading magazines of film and carting them from far away to a shoot, you know, to a location that we couldn't have the trucks nearby. and just a kind of collegiality, the kind of fraternity and sorority that surrounded it,

I think, helped a huge amount. Yes. And it's not that great work can't happen when people are unhappy. There's lots of examples of that, too, but I prefer the former. Of course. You know, so part of me isn't even surprised that you're experiencing it that way because we liked doing it.

Yes. Like we really loved the table reads. Yes. You know, if something didn't feel right, we tried to talk about it and see if it could adjust it. Right. Make it feel more right or more correct and then be told the reasons that we're wrong. You know, which I tend to believe. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. But there was a real kind of youthful energy. Yes. I don't mean that spiritually even. I mean like sincerely. Yes. From people from all ages, though.

Yes, yes. You know, youthful energy from 60-year-olds to 20-year-olds, you know, and that includes cast crew and everybody in between. Yes, yes, for sure. I mean, there's so many things that I think of when I'm watching it. And because I talk about it and my phone algorithm shows me things, I saw this adorable picture, and I was going to try to print it up, but I forgot. You know the white dress when you break up with big in front of the plaza

and you say your girl's lover. Yes, beautiful. There's a great behind the scenes picture where you're standing kind of in the forefront. I'm sure it's the paparazzi, whatever, but less than obviously than now. But Joe Collins is in the background when he was focused pulling. And he's wearing like a straw hat. Oh, he wore that hat all the time. You remember?

Of course I do. And the shorts and like a wife-beater because it was like 100 degrees. Yeah, super handsome. Oh my God, so handsome. And I just remember how they got us through the day. Yeah. They were amazing. The camera department was so superior.

Right. Like they were incredible and everybody, you know, matriculated up. As well they should. I know. Did I ever tell you that I had the crazy, like, fantasy when we came back to doing just like that that they were going to be there? Sure. And that's like, did it. Yeah, I know that feeling.

I forgot they have huge titles now. I know. And we got a wonderful crew. Amazing. But, like, it is so interesting to think of, like, that is. McDonald. Oh my God, incredible. Best in Peace. Yes.

Joe Dolly. Float manorie. Oh, my God. Like every single person. Mike camera. Incredible. Yeah. Fenerty.

Yes. Your man, who was he, he always called his wife the bride. Our big gaffer, our big, he moved all the sets. Bobby? Lowry. Oh, Lowry. Do you remember Bobby, my driver? Of course.

Bobby. I love Bobby. Because then Bobby started driving me. Yes. When Super Dave left. Oh, yeah. Super Dave. I love it so much.

Okay, wait, we could go off on so many tangents. But one of the things I wanted to tell you, which was really highly, highly enjoyable, because, as I said, in my mind, and Michael Patrick tells me that he's going to be able to fix this when he comes. But in my mind, I have no memory of season four. And I now realize what's season four? Season four, so much happens, Sir Jessica. I mean, it's insane. Okay. But in my mind, what I think happened, because we shot eight.

18 episodes season three and 18 episodes season four. Did we really? Yeah. Can you believe that? Wow. Can you believe that? Wow. And that is also when we started getting nominated for things.

Oh, wow. So it became a year-round situation. Got it. Which is what I remember, which of course I was thrilled, right? Right. But also like, what do I wear? What do I do? Like chicken with my head cut off, right?

But in my mind, I think I conflated them into one because a lot of the storylines is when we really invest in the long-term storylines. Got it. Got it. You know, we double down on it. Right? And we become more brave in terms of like my motherboard myself, you know, grief has suddenly entered the picture, you know, not just a breakup, but actual death. Yeah, these kind of life altering milestone events.

Exactly. Like we're really in my mind like understanding that we can do those things and trying them, you know, and succeeding so beautifully, which is amazing. Yeah. But it's, I think part of the reason I don't remember it is because it was personally so kind of overwhelming, right? like the success, do you remember when we first got nominated for an Emmy? I could pretend I have more detailed memories. Here's what I do remember about all of it or awards

is that Amy Harris always knew everything. Yes. Like Amy Harris was, you know, somehow from New York City embedded in trade information. Yes. And she always came to me the night before nominations, and I was always like, oh, Amy, I didn't know about this. Why did you tell me? I don't want to know about this stuff.

I don't, I would say I didn't care because it, you know, could potentially be too painful to care. Yeah. And if we'd been not considered previously, we were just fine, meaning like, not like, we're just fine, meaning like, we were fine. Meaning like, we were fine. I didn't expect it. No, and I think the kind of, there was kind of a kind of. rub that you know we were these out-of-towners we weren't really part of a television industry that we weren't playing the game yeah or that we just

hadn't kind of like been part of a courtship that's more traditional and and even if that hurts your feelings for a minute I don't think it you know kind of was long-term damage so it was better to stay distant and circumspect. Yeah. I think that's a really healthy attitude. Yeah, I think that's like just the only way to survive and not feel crappy if your industry says, right.

We're not considering new people in New York City. And there were so many other wonderful things about being part of our show that, you know, we're real sustenance. So if it hurts for a minute, that's all right. Right, right. If you break something that's like super important to you or lose something, my way out of it typically is, and I'm not talking about people, losing people. I'm talking about like a thing, like a nomination or, but in this case, you know, an important necklace. I would tell my, I just tell myself, I didn't know about that thing four weeks ago or three years ago.

It wasn't in my life. Right. I didn't need it, want it, count on it, look at it, hold it, wear it, smell it. Yes. So a nomination, I sort of felt the same way. If I felt that there was disappointment, that Michael was disappointed, or anybody else, I would feel it. But then I think, I didn't even know about this stuff three years ago. Or I didn't know about this stuff 48 hours ago before Amy Harris told me nominations are coming out.

Definitely. And if anyone ever asked me about a campaign, it's like, please don't ask me about a campaign. Please don't show me pictures for a campaign. I don't want to know about it. For all I know, we're not going to get anything. Right. That's healthy. Do it on your own.

If you want to do it. But also it didn't actually, and I think this is important to even say now in the way that the world operates, it doesn't actually affect the work that we were doing. One way or the other, right? It's not like because we won an Emmy, which we did, which we never thought we would do. We did. The show won an Emmy, Sarah. That first year? No.

Oh. Oh, wait. No. But you, I thought you meant the first year. Oh my God. She's proving her point that she doesn't even know. It is adorable. No. Oh, my God.

Let me just clarify that. The first year we were nominated, we did not win. I am slightly unclear. So this is what I believe happened. When I was pregnant. You were nominated and you won. Okay. Previous to the show being nominated.

And then the show, I think you were not there because it was a semi-emmies because it was 2001. Got it. Kim and I were there alone. No, wait. What year? in 2001 was it? What part of the summer? It would be a summer. The semi-emies because I had to push it. I was pregnant

and I couldn't travel for one and I think you won. It wasn't that one. Okay, sorry. It wasn't that one. It wasn't that one. So remember 9-11 happened, which we're going to discuss the show's reaction and whatnot. And then we were supposed to have the Emmys like right after. I remember that I had had a photo shoot on

September 10th so I'd pushed my flight to September 11th, which you remember. Yes, I know well. Yes. And I had two vintage or Vela Lager original bandage dresses in my suitcase that I was supposed to decide between for the Emmys. Were you going to check that luggage? It was checked.

It was checked. Because I was going home after the whole season, right? So I had a lot of stuff. I had my golden retriever, Callie. Right? Yes, so we were all on that plane. I got Callie out of the underneath, couldn't get the bags. I was really stressed about those original dresses later, obviously, not on the day.

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Apple podcast, or wherever you're listening to podcasts. So then, because of the war in Iraq, we had pushed the Emmys back. Right. And some people felt we shouldn't even have them at all. I remember some controversy around that. And they wore a short dress. Did you? That's why I call it the semi- Emmys.

I was like. It feels weird. Yeah. To get like totally glam. And what I do kind of somewhat understand now is that, you know, that is enjoyment for people. People enjoy us getting dressed, going, trying to celebrate the things that they love. Right. Yeah.

So, but at the time, I don't, I don't know that we felt that. And we were all still just trying to recover our bearings. Right. You know, from the situation. But that's why you don't really remember that one. Because only you and Kim went. Correct. Got it.

Alone. Okay. We're alone in our short dress. Was Michael Patrick there? I don't think so. He's not in the pictures. I have to ask him when I see him. And that, and we won?

Yes. The show won an Emmy. For writing? For the whole show. They give an award for the whole show, Sarah. You're making me so happy right now because you're adorable. I'm not faining this. I really don't.

No, I know. I know. Everyone, she's not feigning this. Okay. This, okay, we're just going to show you pictures now because this is how you're going to remember. This is the year 2000 when you won a Golden Globe. I remember that dress.

Yes. Do you remember who made it? Richard Tyler? Yes. Do you want to know why I remember that so well? No, I also wore Richard Tyler. Do we both? We both were Richard Tyler. And we didn't coordinate it. I don't know. I don't think I knew you were wearing Richard Taylor, though I think you told me to look up Richard Tyler because he was in L.A. Right? Oh, that's right. He was in both New York

and Los Angeles. That's right. That's right. And he was such a lovely man. Yes. Yes, you had a shop on Melrose. I still think about it every time I drive by. Yeah. It's not there anymore. And I had not had a stylist at that point. Didn't really know if I had a stylist at that point.

I feel like you might have had Lauren, but I'm not sure. Maybe not yet. I don't think so. Okay, got it. I don't think so, yeah. So I went over there to the shop. In the window of the shop was a beautiful red dress on the mannequin. And I was like, could I just wear that?

And they were like, uh, someone else could be wearing it. I was like, who can't care. You know, I never cared about that. Right. And also like, I didn't really understand. what the Golden Globes was, like, fundamentally, right? So I was just like, I don't know. So I wear this red dress.

I do, in fact, run into a woman wearing the identical dress at the Golden Globes. She was very nice about it. She was possibly an executive's wife or something, you know what I'm saying? Because she just went to do it. Two women with taste. Yeah, yeah, definitely. But, you know, it was there to guy, right? Yes.

And I loved it, but it rained that day. My hair is all frizzy. Wow. And like the, I don't have the group picture of us, but Michael's got the curls. Yeah, Jim Crocey. Yes. I used to call him Jim Croce. Oh, my God.

So good. And I remember when we, because remember how the film people would be at the lower level at the film. Yes. Oh, you're reminding me. Yes. Do you remember? And we could watch them. Exactly.

You had a good view. Yeah, very good view. We were, if the stage was in front of us, I think we were back on the right. Yes. We were back on the right, like audience right? That was our spot. Yeah. They would give us our spot almost every year.

I remember that. But then when they call their name and we're just like, what, uh, and we have to get up. We have to make it all the way down there, right? I wonder why they voted for us. They love us. Sarah, Jessica. Yeah, they were really nice. We just saw that lady when you got your girl.

Yes, she's so lovely. Right. Like, they're our biggest fans. It was incredible. Yeah, they were great. And I remember having to go all the way down and us being like, we go. We go.

What? Oh my God. And our face is. Who spoke? Did Darren speak? Yeah, Darren. And Michael Patrick's behind him with girls. And we're all just like, we're all just like, what do I?

We're up here. We're just like so like during the headlights. And my biggest memory of the whole thing other than just the shock value was Julianne Moore is sitting down in the film section. And she is clapping like it's literally the best thing that's ever happened to her. But she's like levitating off her chair. I was like Julian Moore knows of show. And that was my first kind of introduction to the warmth that can be in our business. You know, like the support and the warmth from other people that you admire.

It was so nice. That's a really nice. That's a nice memory, yeah. So then the next day, my memories continue. The next day I went to return the dress that I had borrowed from the window. And when I walked in, it was a pretty small store, like a pretty intimate store, I smelled your fragrance. Because you had been nervous and you had sprayed. Of course, that's even when I'm not nervous.

This is what she does. And this is before you had an official fragrance. This is when you were mixing your own. It's my own. And I had returned the dress. Yes, you had returned the dress. Aren't we good and punctual? Yes, right?

You taught me that. It's the honor system from the library. Yes. If you bring the book back, you get another. Exactly. If you bring the dress back, they might let you borrow another one. Yes, you were such a good leader. In decent condition with the exception of fragrance.

Right, it was a beautiful fragrance. I mean, the whole store, I thought you were literally in the store. I was like, is Sir Jessica in the back? And they were like, no, no, no, she just. returned the dress. I was like, oh, it's her fragrance. And little did I know, you were going to have this whole amazing fragrance line, and now you have another one. This is what I want to discuss. Well, God, this is our, like, this is our 14th fragrance. Is it? Oh. It's all birth from lovely. Got it. I mean, there have been some outside the house that don't, a lot, meaning they're not,

they aren't children of lovely. Uh-huh. But this is, the new ones are kind of, they're kind of almost standalones. Ooh. The bottle shape is different. It's beautiful. There are design elements that mimic the cap of Lovely.

So they're ribbed like the cap, the original cap of Lovely, and they have the grograin kind of stripe, which is a nod to my mother, which was also my shoes. So there are pieces and elements and they're sort of triplets versus a singular fragrance.

Got it. Are they related to each other? only in packaging not in juice so the sense are all entirely different wow and actually there's four I said three but there's four oh there's three okay I'm not mad okay so the juices the fragrance don't have anything to do with one another

just the packaging got it and when I smell them am I going to be like oh yes they're not they're not going to feel reminiscent of lovely okay but they're great They're much less polite. You know, Lovely is like a very... Yes, it's kind of light. Polite, very...

Like, it has extremely good manners. You know, Lovely is welcome. You know, like, and these are, they have nice, strong personalities. They're more fun. They're more contemporary. Am I describing it well, would you say? Yeah, like even... the boldness of each bottle is like a bold color.

Got it. The bottles are unbelievable. I mean, it's not a picture on the Instagram. They look great. They're amazing. Yeah, that's why I wanted to hear. So in each side of those really kind of bold, graph, there's like something really graphic. The fragrances are really, they're great.

Neat. Yeah, they're amazing. I'm so excited. And then we have another one coming out after that. That's really good. Another fragrance. Yes. Or your whole different thing.

No, it's lovely. It's another lovely child. Got it. At this point, great, great, great, great, great, great grandchild. Got it. Amazing. I think we're in, what, year now, 20. Incredible. It's our 21st year.

That's great. I know. It's funny. Lovely is 21 years old almost. Wow. Your first child. Yes. Wait, how old is Jane?

Well, no. Not my first child. Yeah, yeah. It's like, wait. The first fragrance child. I know. See, they're frozen in my mind. I can't keep up with actual ages.

Let's just leave them. Terrifying, right? As young toddlers. Totally. Totally. Totally. Totally. Yes.

Yes. When you think about, so we were talking a little bit about the trajectory of your producing, right? Which I love the origin of it. I didn't know that origin story. And I feel like you stepped into it with such grace and the way that you were able to combine caring for the crew with the choices. I also remember that. Like in the wee hours, you know, Melfie would come up to you. We'd be sitting in our chairs and he started talking to you about the next day.

and I would just be like, oh, God, I don't even know if I want to listen, do you know. But, you know, all the different details that you had to take into consideration about the call and this call and that call and that and you're a call. And you know, you'd force your call. And I would just be like, oh, my God, she's so strong. Oh, my God, how are we all going to do you do you know. And we did. We found a way. We found a way, which was amazing. Sarah Jessica, we could talk forever, as you know.

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