Are You A Charlotte? - Sarah Jessica Parker reveals quintessential Carrie fashions and a breakup adlib that stayed in!

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

Kristin and Sarah Jessica Parker continue to reminisce and as a result we learn new details about Carrie and Aiden’s breakup in Season four.  A visit with SJP would not be complete if we didn’t extensively talk about the fashion!We get the bts details about the fall in that lake with Big and why practice makes perfect! Plus, how Sarah Jessica Parker lost her voice screaming in Sex and the Country. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Here we go. We're just going to jump right back in. All the things that you have done. Did you ever see that coming? No. I don't think any of us, I don't think it's, that experience is, and I think other people have these kinds of experiences that have not been a replication of, they're not an imagining that you have because they didn't exist.

parts of it exist like for instance people knowing who you are or being a public figure those are things you can imagine or try to imagine like what is that like and how does that affect a life but because

the show was so unusual because New York City was so unusual inside the show because there were all these women on the show because fashion was in the show because bag were in the show, because shoes were in the show, because it was shooting New York in ways that even inside cinema hadn't ever been shot that way.

Right. I mean, the closest I can kind of see in a way is an unmarried woman in terms of like a city being colorful and kind of, you know, culture letting itself be known and the streets looking, a kind of aspirational, very different than a lot of other 70s cinema, which was hard, and the city was a wreck. And a lot of people in cinema in New York City were confronting these kind of challenges that politics and time and economy were dictating. So I couldn't have imagined it because it didn't exist.

And I think as you and I discussed in the past, if not on your podcast, than in person. I never wanted to be famous. I never, I didn't not want to be famous. I never, it didn't occur to me to be thinking about it because it wasn't part of, it had nothing to do with why you wanted to be an actor. Right.

And fame was, you know, Paul Newman. Merrill Street. Merrill Streep, Dustin Hoffman, Jody Foster. Right. Robert Redford, Barbara Streisand, Cicely Tyson, big figures in the movies. And television was a different thing.

And then there was theater, and I just wanted to work. I was like, how can I be a working actor? Will that ever really happen? Well, I come a point in my life where I go to Chemical Bank and I'm not panicked about how much money, I'm withdrawing on a weekly basis. Like I would give myself $40 to last me for the week. $2.20 spinning out of that machine was like,

girl, you were crazy, taking $40 out. I love it. So we couldn't, I don't think any of us could imagine it because it didn't really exist. There were elements you could pull together, but it wasn't, there was not a organism that we could look to. Also, it was not a requirement back then.

I think that's important to say because I think now it seems like it is. I don't know if it really is, but it seems like it is. But it wasn't in our horizon as we must be famous to be able to work. That didn't go together then. Like the privilege of, and I really mean this, and there are lots of actors today who feel the same way, they just simply want to work. They want to do good work.

They want to work with good actors. But they're happy to work on things that aren't great in order to just get a career established. and pay the bills and learn. And this is very important now because the middle class of actors is hurting badly. Hurting badly. So sad. The journeyman, which I was a proud member of, and I feel like you felt like that too,

that that's been seriously compromised and will be more so with this merger. Like it's pretty, it's actually devastating. And it doesn't just affect the journeymen, many of whom are telling their stories, but it's also the journeyman hair and makeup people crew members. The collateral damages. The caterers. Everything. Like it goes to do you, you know, people that clean costumes, people that.

Everything. Build costumes. Yeah. So. Dressers. That was really a lucky time, I think, to be an actor. Yes. Post being a contract player in Hollywood, like it was a middle period.

Yeah. where it was post-studio ownership. Right. And pre-streaming where you're not doing that many episodes, a six, eight order is a perfectly fine, reasonable, big deal. You're happy to have it. Right. But I think it's going to be a very,

there will be a reckoning about who we are soon. I mean, I think a merger was just, I think the board approved it like two hours ago. No. Yeah. Well, I'm going to get out a different picture than I was going to show you because I have so many, so many. Oh, we're going on the Warner Brothers. Oh.

Isn't it beautiful? Wow, that's so sad. Is that a lot going to be there still? What will it be called? Okay, I don't know. But listen, there's going to be a riot in Los Angeles if anyone does anything to that lot. Because that is one of the main things that is being discussed at this point. And it is, that is a price.

Usel. No one can change anything on that lot. I feel very strongly. And when I watch this particular episode, which is when we go to L.A., as you remember. Is this a screen grab? Yes. Oh.

I was like, I never remember actually seen. Because you drive onto the lot to meet McConaughey. Yes. And you're in that car. Yeah, the Mustang that I almost... Exactly. Had that terrifying Mustang. I was just on Sweetser the other day

and I was like, this is the block. I can't even drive on Sweetser anymore. I know. I literally won't drive up that street. I know. Even with an automatic transmission, I just can't. I know. I have an anxiety attack as well when I'm on it.

And do you remember that I was not in that scene, but I came? Yes. Because I was like, wait, what's happening? Yes. Is everyone okay? It was so scary. Because you were in the rodeo scene right afterwards that day, I remember. I think I come and I go, right?

Like a child was dipping in, dipping out. No, I don't get to stay for that either. I wasn't in that. Was I in that? I think you watch. You watch her being her bold old self. Right. Right.

It's a great episode. It's so much fun. And I had... What season is that? That is season three. California? Yes. Wow.

I just also, when I parked down off Sweetser and then I walked by the old standard, which they're redoing, hopefully into something decent. Wow. It's a lot of change. Wow. It's kind of terrifying. But I love the LA episode. So it's, of course, because I love L.A. as well, as you know, but seeing us there is so highly, highly entertaining.

And seeing Carrie experiencing the industry stuff. Yeah. It's so good and funny. And it's almost like when we first start really trying different things, right? Like we're going to go outside our comfort zone. Yeah. But early on, we also have this other very trippy thing that I think I texted you about. Sometimes I have these moments where I'm like, I've got to text there, Jessica.

She knows this. And it's always very last minute. But this is in the first season, I believe. This is when you're levitating on Fifth Avenue, which we're very confused about. Yeah. And you said you thought you remembered them building a platform. And you're wearing this. That's season one?

Yeah. Not the pilot. Not the pilot. Isn't it trippy that like you're walking down Fifth Avenue at night and you levitate? Who is that? That is a guy. It's a handsome guy. Who is that?

I think it's the guy who leaves you money in the morning. and you have to debate if you're a prostitute or not, yes. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? I do think they built a platform. And that's what they, how, like you're up, you're just up and they blew some wind at you or something? Is there narration over this? Yeah.

Yeah. My guess is, yes. They either put a fan on me or somebody had big cards and they were just going like this. Honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, yeah. Isn't that amazing and interesting? If I watched it, I would be.

able to tell you exactly what happened, but because I... But do you want to ever watch it? Like, what's your really gut feeling on it? I just, I think, I think it's too complicated for me. I think I can't. Just enjoy. I think I can't. The thing is I, I don't have any, like, I never think back, oh, I wish we had enjoyed it.

So it's not that I can, it's not that I have fears about, oh look how wonderful that was why didn't I enjoy it or why didn't I experience what it was to be doing all of these scenes you know whether they worked or not yeah it's it's so hard to describe why I it makes I don't know that I I don't know I don't want to go back I just want it to stay here and if there's things that I wish I had done better I can't touch it, I can't fix it, I can't remedy. Right. That's definitely true. And I think I function best typically, and I'm a super sentimental person, so this seems anathema to what I'm describing, but I'm better in certain circumstances moving forward. Yeah.

With like this like abundance of kind of the kind of the kind of. of feelings I have about it that are almost hard to articulate. Of course. I loved it so much. Maybe I just don't want to touch it or something. I like I loved it. Yeah. I loved it even at its most difficult moments, even the times that it surprised me in its challenge.

Right. Personal or professional. Like, yeah. But I'm thrilled that people love to rewatch it. I couldn't be more grateful. Yeah. or astounded that I get to be a part of this particular kind of history with an audience. Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

And personally, just that we can talk about the things we ate or couldn't eat or, you know, doing a scene and hearing somebody's hip cracker. All the funny, weird stuff that we have, like, bundled and found storage for. and piled in more the next season and found more storage in our unit that was full already. Yes, absolutely true. Absolutely true. I mean, for me, I think previous to doing the podcast, I felt exactly how you felt. Like, it was alive in me in my own way, right? Like, we have our own experiences.

Yeah. Which are different than the audiences. Yeah. The joy that I'm getting now, I think partly because originally I had so much anxiety when I would watch it about myself. Not about you guys. I know, I hear you talk about that. What do you think? I just wish I had known more about the things that were consuming you.

Like, I wish I, I mean, you were pretty good at saying the most obvious when you needed help or comfort or someone to say, no, of course that's not real. Right. Of course, you didn't do it that way. of course you don't look like that in this skirt. Right. Of course that's... And I remember that. But to hear you articulate all the ways in which you were kind of haunted daily by this sense of,

am I yet permanent here? Am I staying? Is this mine? Do I get to be a New Yorker? I'm not sure that you even know. knew at that time what it was that was, you know, in a kind of illness, like what was the bacteria? Like, what God, I don't know that you could have said at that time.

I don't think I could have. Well, I had this contract thing and this thing happened and it will take me forever to feel secure. And therefore, anything that feels that I'm scared of or uncertain of or I'm not sure it was good, or was it the third take or the seventh or this person. Like, all of that is going to be informed by you not feeling for sure that you're wanted in a place. Even though you're seeing examples of you. Yes.

It doesn't matter. It took a long time. It took a long time for you to feel. Yes. But I didn't know that. And you would not have said it at the time that. You wouldn't have said it that radically. Well, because I didn't.

And I'm not sure you even were putting it together. Right. But I also wouldn't have wanted to burden you. Right. You know, you had enough. Well, you know. Or probably burden anybody. Yeah.

No, I didn't. I mean, you probably didn't even tell Dave. Or did you? Dave knew. But were you able to really say, but when this happened, it took me this many months to actually believe or? No. Right. I didn't have that awareness.

I did not have that awareness. And I would go so far as to say that even the contractual part of it, right, also just just tapped into a bigger personal thing that I had previous to us ever coming together, right? Right. And Michael Patrick said something so interesting to me. I guess last time he came on, or maybe it was in life, I'm not sure, where he says something about how, like, my growth as an actress over time, which obviously we've had this incredible time together.

And I do feel like I've been, like, allowed and cultivated, you know, to grow into myself in such a profound and incredible way, you know, by you, by him, by all your talent. Well, thank you. And more you have to do. Yes, but definitely by people having the faith in me. You know, that has helped me, right? But he said something about how in the beginning that, like, if we were in a take and there was noise, that I would be out.

100%. And then he said he was so proud when we went back to interest like that, that wasn't true anymore. And I was like, what? That is really bizarre. But that had to do with my nervous system. Of course it did. Yes.

Of course it did. Not like it was affected by us, but it was a previously existing situation. But that's how all of us behave as humans is the thing that rattled us comes with us until we can prove that thing that rattled us inferior to what we know we can do. Yeah. Or be the boss of. Yeah. Or like for me it felt like. Like you guys having faith in me was like a daily kind of a balm to my hypervigilant and fighter flight type nervous system that I walked in with, right?

That was then stimulated by them saying, oh, by the way, we're going to demote you. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. I know, right? Obviously, it was not exactly like fantastic for me. But it was what it was. And I still had the faith in me that I meant to be there. It's just that the faith was little.

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And people are talking about that now, which I really enjoy, right? I'm like, let's please talk about that because it's not like it's gone. No, no, no, no. Right? It's just, it's very different, but it's definitely not gone. It's not gone. So I think the belief that you all had in me contributed. I might cry again.

I'm really sorry. Contributed to the slow healing that I needed. You know, and that's the joy. I'm not sure you were probably even aware of that kind of accumulation of a kind of courage you needed. But I would remember if somebody moved, like if they were, you know, over my shoulder to you. And behind Joe Collins or whomever at that point, John McDonald or whoever was pulling focus,

if a bunch of people moved or one or two did, it was like your eye was like hypervigilant. And I, I understood that. I knew that that was your nervous system. And never bothered me because I just wanted you to feel okay. And I knew that. As you do. Yeah.

But knowing and the practice are so hard to. I felt it. I felt it. Like when he said that, that surprised me. I didn't even know that people noticed. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Like it's also interesting in so many layers. And that's also just the joy of getting to be together for all of these many, many years. You all know each other's things and when to step in and when to help and the ways in which to distract. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And it's just joyful. Joyful. I'm going to go back to some pictures.

Because these are things where like as we've been going along the thing, I'm like, oh my God, what would she say about this? Right. Okay. So let's talk about some outfits. This outfit is when we're in the Hamptons, this is the first time that Carrie sees Natasha and Big together. And you are wearing a cowboy hat and a tube top and a very low slung.

stripy skirt. Yeah, I love that outfit. Everyone loves this outfit. Could this outfit not walk out right now and be like just perfection? Not on me, but somebody else. 100%. I think it was probably just at Coachella. Ah, totally.

Yeah, that was a bra from a bra company. It was the one bra that wasn't just a plain nude bra. It was a strapless bra that Pat and Molly had found. And I was like, oh, I could just do that. It had like a animal print off. on it, I think. Yeah. That was a nothing hat, you know, a $2 hat, cross-body, yeah.

I remember all of it extremely well. Remember the arm, the bracelet around my, you know. Yes, I do. My arm. Because I have a little picture. And I think one of the reasons I remember that outfit was that it was such an important episode. And we spent so many days in those outfits.

And so good. You're so good in that outfit. I mean, I'm in that episode. See, they're the same. But look at another. arm, man. Yes. Mr. De La Renta built that dress for me. I understood later and I didn't at the time that people didn't like it or they criticized, I guess so, yeah. Well, I was unaware. You know, on the list of like the worst or less cared for Emmy dresses. Are you kidding me? But I didn't, I literally didn't care

because it was Mr. DeLorenta. And I'm sure that was my idea. I love it so much. This is a beautiful pink dress. And it had a long tail on that flower. Yes. And is it, does it have the year at the top? No, it doesn't. Oh, no, 2000. 2000. Yeah. But we had a fantastic time. We had a great, great time. We were staying at the peninsula. Laura Mercierge did my makeup. Sergeiormant did my hair.

Those earrings were borrowed from Fred Layton. Mr. De Laughan, I'm sure I was wearing Manolo's. And the thing about that night, and there's my husband, Matthew. Yeah. So handsome. Was that when we came back to the Peninsula Hotel, we were all hanging out in the bar. that dark dark bar and somebody

and I remember Michael Patrick and I were sitting in the front table we were waiting for everybody else and someone complimented my makeup and Laura had told me before I left my hotel room she said 24 hour guarantee about my makeup and it was I don't know how many hours later

you know after the whole thing and waiting for the car and getting back to the hotel from wherever it was and I remember thinking God she was right 24-hour guarantee. Amazing. And I remember Emily Mattson, my best friend, daughter, was at the hotel that day while I was getting ready.

She was always at the hotel. And she was so little. I have a picture with me and with Emily that day, who was just a tiny little toddler. Yeah. Okay. And here is a really fun memory. This is the dress that you wore to the Golden Globes in 2002. Corbett.

Right. Love him so much. I can't wait for him to do your podcast. From your lips to God's ears. I love him. I love him too. That dress is Chanel? I'm not even sure.

That dress is Chanel and it's actually not a dress. I think it's pants, maybe. Right? We're in a Chanel bow. That's Loren, for sure. So Lauren has entered our life. Yes. And, yeah, I love that.

It was really easy to wear. My guess is, I can't remember how long my hair was when James Wilkie was born. This is, oh, 2002, so it's... That's the haircut. Is that right after James Wilkie? Was it, 2002, it would be... Oh, this is the Golden Globes.

So this is the top of the year. This is like a month or so before I was pregnant. You know what I think this is? I think this is the time. Do you remember when Katie Couric would come and interview people for her show, some show? No. Well, so we all...

I think that... I think that maybe we didn't win as a show, but we had won the year before. Maybe. And we all got together to go backstage and Katie Cork sits down and we love Katie, right? She's like a friend of the show. You know what I mean? And we sit down and we're all bubbly and it's exciting and we're going to talk to her and she puts on the hard news space and she says, what about all the controversy and people not liking the show? And we were like, uh, exactly. Because look, it says here I won. Exactly. And I think we said something to the effect. Exactly.

And that's so funny. I know, right? This is you holding. your Emmy. Oh, 2004. 2004, yes. And I remember that you and Matthew sat next to me and we have a funny, funny picture of you and me leaning over him and he just looks like, oh, my God, I'm going to kill myself. And we're just like, blah, no, no, no, no. Wow.

It finally had to give it to me. And it was overdue and well-deserved. But when I know, when I look at season three and season four, and this is why just selfishly, I hope at some point in your long, long life that, coming because the thing, this is the main thing I want to say to you. And I think the important thing is that we already have this in ourselves, right? We have our memories, as you're talking about. Right. Our memories are separate from the Finnish show, right? There are memories and they're priceless and, you know, treasured. Yeah. And we have that. And I felt this way before I was rewatching,

right? Like, I have what I have and I have what I need. And I love that people come up and talk to me, but I don't necessarily share, like sometimes they'll say them in the middle of, I don't remember that. Yeah. You know what I mean? But that's okay. That's fine. It's incredible that they remember anything, right? Yeah.

But what I've gotten, as I've been rewatching, a few things, of course, number one, absolutely floored by how good it is. And yes, it's all over the place sometimes. But it's all good. Yeah. It's funny. You fall down. I mean, you fall in the mud. I'm going to show you pictures.

You know, what I mean? Like an end you're up and you're up and you're down. I know when you're so fantastic at it And we can watch you, they make you fall in the mud over and over again Just because it's fun to watch Do you remember this? I do remember that, yeah Yeah, I remember that, yeah.

Look at you in the mud Yes, yes, I mean, I felt plenty in the mud You felt a lot, yeah, I was super happy to do that And it was so great And you and John going up there to wherever they have suffering But I don't know if you were really in I think we were somewhere in New Jersey but it was really fun

and we had crew dinners and I loved I loved being on location with our crew so much. I just, I loved it. Me too. I didn't get to go as often as you but remember when we went to

whatever stood in for the Hamptons a couple different places. No, no, Atlantic City was that was different. Sorry, right. We were not in the Hamptons. We were, we were... Like far rock away?

Yeah, we were we were west of that far east. Yeah, we couldn't afford over there. But it was always really fun. And then remember there was the wedding of Julie's character

where we also worked all night and we're wearing like fantastic outfits and you're pregnant? Julie's character. Julie Halston's character. Oh, I was like Julie? Sorry, sorry. The writer had a character

was she on the show and I just don't remember that too. Julie Halston's character. Yes, I was super pregnant. It was our last episode. Yes. Because that was the last time I had to cover my pregnancy

I was wearing a David Darrymple, pink sort of bubble. Yes. Yes, and my hair was, I remember my hair was sort of bell du jour. Yes, so good. Yeah, and she married Nathan Lane. Yes, oh, my God, it was Nathan. And Cynthia was super pregnant too. Yes, you both were.

That was when we were about to go on the pregnancy break. There's a picture of us I've seen frequently, and I don't know why, but there's a picture of us from that wedding. She looked so pretty at that wedding. Yeah, you both did. Love that. I mean, me too. Yeah. And we were in New Jersey.

And I didn't even have to wear a bra. Wow. Because it was all built in because he does that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing.

Yeah. Totally. All right. I have some other just funny, funny. Yeah. So this is also from sex and the country. Now. Oh, wow.

Yeah. I remember all that. Do you remember that you leave Aiden in the country, you take the train back to New York and you have dinner with Big and you wear that green skirt? Are you serious? Yes. I know. I know.

I feel. felt the same way watching it. Is that where all the criticisms coming from? I think so. Just that. I'm just kidding. I mean, who knows? That is a J. Crew shirt that was my own. Wow. That I brought in. And that, of course, is a Vivian Westwood skirt. From Century 21. Yep. Yep. That's a thrift store top. Love it so much. And I can't remember what the bottoms were.

I think they were like little jeans shorts or something. This is when you're going to make the pie. And it's also when you squealing the squirrel. That's going to make a pie? Yes, you make a whole pie crust. But then he makes you drop it and you burn your legs. And that's when you finally admit that you hate the country. It's really good. Oh my God. And then he really feels like you don't love him because you don't understand.

Of course. But he doesn't feel that you do because. If I don't love the country enough, if I can't adapt, if I can't get burned and and find some ointment. Yes. Then it's her problem. Right. It's not the country's problem.

Definitely, but also I think for him, he has identified himself as this house. Yes. Right? And he's like, she doesn't see me. She doesn't get me. That's what he's playing. Yes. Because he's so good.

Yes. But also, do you remember when you lost your voice squealing at the squirrel? Yeah, I have a vague recollection of that. It was very rare. Yes. And then we had to shoot the next day. And you were so stressed because you never. Like didn't have a.

You could not speak. I didn't have a voice. Exactly. I remember shooting. this late at night because this was probably on the back end of a... I bet we were on splits almost.

This was sort of like after a bunch of day scenes. This was probably the last scene of the night with this skirt. And you very creatively twirl. Do I? You do. Because I'm sure I just wanted to show off

the back end. And you do it beautifully? It works really well. Not my back end, but the skirts back end. I know, it was special. It was great. Experience Harry Styles live in London, England at Wembley Stadium. This is Harry Styles. IHart Radio wants to send you and a mate across the pond with flights from Virgin Atlantic,

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or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen, inside American soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Okay, wait, I have another been dying to ask you. Oh, yeah, I love that outfit so much. Please explain how it happens.

I love it so much, guys. This is the one I asked Molly about Molly Lassie. so hard and called it all kinds of crazy names and said she thought you were trying to break the rules. It's the lavager hose that are pulled up over her shorts. And she also was wearing like basically a Victoria's Secret bra from what I can gather. It's a wonder bra. It's a wonder bra. I mean.

It's a kind of heliotrope colored wonder bra. And I'm sure it was my idea to put those tights on and yank them up because that's how you are. I mean, that's actually how you are at home. Yeah. That's the truth. and at this point at this point you know you can do things like this

like if you're trying to say something about somebody and you've kind of found your footing and you've articulated with images and her words then why not do something like this for a scene I think she's running to try to get her laundry in time? Yes the dry cleaner and it's closed

it's perfect to run in that Yes. And I love this. And I think that's probably like if I had to pick one of three looks that said who is Carrie, this would be one of them in a way. Wow, I love that so much. Because you're inside her apartment and she's walking around her apartment like that. Yes. So that feels very real to me.

You'd have to show them to me. Possibly this one. I didn't like that as much as everybody else. I'll tell you why. This was the crocheted. Yeah. I'll tell you why. Pardon me.

I love the hat and I love the coat, and I like how it looks still. But the problem with this is that it was a cotton. It's not that I didn't like what it was. It's very hard to fit something like that because it's... It moves. It's a cotton, yes. It's a cotton thread, so it's all natural, so it's not holding a, it's not holding a shape. So it was very hard to tailor it with...

trying to give you a waste. It's not terribly thick yarn or string. But it's just not, it doesn't have any unnatural fiber in it. Right. So it's a long day of work. I remember things growing during the day. We were in Madison Square Park. We were in the Bryant Park.

Yes. And it was unpleasantly cold day. It's a false spring day. Yes, it looks beautiful, but it was not. It was one of those days that there was wind and you're a little bit in the shadows. because of the buildings and the way the sun's moving. Yep. Was that the same day that we did Heidi in the same park?

No, I think Heidi was Bryant Park. It was Bryant Park, though. Yeah. Was it? Was it? Right? Yes, I think so. Yes, I think so.

So what do you think of Heidi? Oh, I love Heidi. I would always love Heidi. I don't have a picture of Heidi, too. I love that whole day. I remember I asked them to put freckles on my face? Yes, the freckles you were so ahead of your time, Sarah Jessica. All the little girls on TikTok do this all of the

Right. Yes. Oh my God. There's products you can buy now on the store. No. Yes. Gemma wants them. Are they unsafe?

No. I'm just like really. They're just a frivolous. Yes. I'm just like, okay. Okay. So here is another incredible look. It's in the episode, a change of a dress.

You're doing a walk and talk with Miranda. And you're wearing the light pink top, palm tree print skirt. And then you have put a green belt around your stomach, but it is not attached to the skirt or the top. I remember that. We were walking, I think, up, walking on the Upper West Side, I think. Yes, it's a good walking talk. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, I'll put the belt there. Really?

Yeah. Did it come, like, down on the skirt, and you just took it off the skirt? It's the same. It is, right? It's not. It's not a matching belt. I don't think. What episode does it say at the top?

Season 4, episode 15? Yeah, people had a lot of feelings about that belt. Oh, I love it so much. And I loved it. I was like, why not? Yeah. I don't know. When you're working with Pat and Molly at this point, it's like, all's fair.

Yeah. Try everything. Hell yes. And so many times people ask me in interviews, you know, do you regret? I'm like, I regret none of it. Yeah, definitely. I don't regrett anything. So wait, what are the other two outfits if we had to pick three for Carrie?

I should have an answer prepared. It's a toughie. Okay, wait, I have some ideas. Okay. Personally love beyond belief. I don't think that's really carry. Okay. I just love this white dress from Change of a Dress.

It's the final scene where Carrie and Aden break up in front of the fountain at Columbus Circle. I mean, I just love how it looks. And that dress is... Bajoling Mishka, yeah. Which is really fun to think about. It's like trying something on, but it doesn't, I think, really... It doesn't quintessentially create her. And I love that scene so much.

And what I love about that scene, first of all, once a lot. again is John Corbett's acting, which I just think is just sublime. And that's why I wish he would do your podcast. I love you so much right now. Those are the same earrings from Fred Layton. But what I really love about this scene is that we were shooting it and shooting it. I don't know if you've heard this story. And they're over the shoulder at me on my side when we, and I'm on an Apple Box, as always,

because he's so tall. And I felt like I wasn't getting the scene right. Like I just wasn't getting it right. And Michael was far away. Whoever was directing was pretty far away. Alan Taylor, I felt like really messed up and they didn't cut. They were far away. They couldn't be there because of the shots.

And so I was just stopping the script. I was stopping the words as written and just saying and exhortations and things. And Michael used all that. Which really suits the scene. It's so good. Yes. Because I'm like, I'm not getting this right.

I'm not doing this. You were having the same experience that Carrie was having. Yeah. Amazing. And so that's what I really remember about the scene. I was like, oh, Michael, you crafty. So crafty. So crafty.

Wait, I realized that I didn't tell you the end. I'm going to show you two other dresses. Sure. I did not tell you the end of my one of the things that I've realized from rewatching. And it's kind of obvious, but I'm just going to say it because it's powerful. I had, for me, it was powerful. I had two weeks off. I was traveling from the podcast, right?

And then I came back. And I had to rewatch a couple, you know, to get up. And I had like a physical sensation of warmth when I turned it on. Oh, wow. And I thought, this is what I ever. Everyone feels. Oh, wow. It was amazing.

Yeah, like when people try to describe their experience watching it or what it makes them feel like. And it's intangible in a way, right? Yeah. There was a long time where I was like, oh, it's the colors, is this, is that that, it's the pithy, it's the dialogue. And it's all those things, of course. But there's something that we created and I think it has to do with the acceptance, with the found family theme. with the lack of judgment that you feel enveloped when you watch it. It's so powerful.

And it made me feel, of course, that I'm with us. Yeah. Because, of course, I know us. Yeah. Which I'm so lucky. But I also feel like what we made is so strong that that's how people feel, which explains so much about when people come up and hug us. Yeah.

Which I remember when it first started. And I was like, oh, my God, what is happening? Right. I mean, it's beautiful. But it's also just like you're in your day. and you're not expecting it, you forget. You know what I mean? And it's also, I understand it so much more deeply.

Yeah, yeah. I think it's important. It feels important for me. That maybe if I watched it, I would understand. I mean, I try to, I hope I communicate that I understand, if not for that reason, but for other reasons. Yes. But that's very interesting. It was a physical sensation.

That's really amazing. And I've been one weekly, right? So I've been in it and then I was away from it. And I went back and I was like, oh, my God. Wow. That's really nice to hear. It's so good to be a part of it, right? Yeah.

And it's also like, I think what we were saying earlier and then just to put a button on it or whatever, like the, we had a bit of almost like naivete and we were at the right time. But the fearlessness with which it is all done and every department, I mean, every single department, right? Like just firing on all cylinders, right? But in terms of the acting, and you may never be able to fill yourself this personally experience this about yourself. I know it's very hard for me to feel this way about myself, but when I can watch you, I can feel this. It is so naked. Like when you have these breakups and these layered, layered, you've got big, you've got Aiden, you've got, you know, oh, we had, we had Jazz Man, what's his name? name. Oh, Craig Bianco? Yes, he's so great. He's so much fun. I mean, you know, you're just so,

you're so present and layered at all times. Oh, that's nice to hear. It's amazing. It's nice. It's really, and you know, I love you and you know I think you're incredible, but every time I'm like, oh my God. Like, it just gets better and better. It's so nice. And deeper and deeper. Well, you know, that's so nice to hear, and I will say that when, um, Um, Corbett came back, uh, to do, and just like that, he said, he had been terrified. I don't know if he's shared this with you, but he was like, I think he was afraid of watching, you know, the original his stuff, you know, from his entry on. And, um, and then he said, you know, he'd been so happy and he said, you know, you've really

got to watch it because it's so good. It's true, you know, and I was so happy he was feeling. because he's also hard on himself. Yeah. And he could really appreciate how great he was. I'm so glad because he really is great. I mean, he is incredible. Okay, wait, two other things, and then I'm going to have to stop.

Richard Tyler. Yes, in the water. And so Molly says we had two of them. That's what she said. Yeah. And I just wonder where they are. Do you think one is in your storage? No.

They took them back. Oh, the pain. The pain. But you know, for every dress that a designer rightfully asked for back, we have something else. Of course. So even though it's incomplete, there are some holes or like some missing teeth. Of course. It is, it's like a really good, you know, template of everything Pat and Molly did.

Yeah, and it saved on film. Yeah. And you're falling in the most beautiful embellal edict way. We rehearsed over and over that day. Yes. So what they did is they had, that whole crew had gotten there, you know, a couple hours before us. And I'll try to tell this story really quickly. And they had set up as best they could sort of to scale and to height, meeting to fall, meeting to fall,

so that everything could be done, we could be sure of everything in advance of the hopefully one take. So they had these big pads, fall pads, like, you know, stunt pads, big pillows, you know, right? Yes. And they had, you know, let's see, it be lower, right? So they had, you know, one was here to here. Like the dock to the water. Correct. Got it.

And we just practiced falling. Like talking falling, talking falling, talking falling. And well, no, if you do that, then I might not fall this way, but maybe I should do that. Don't hold on to me there. do hold on to be here. Wow. I remember, you know, Dawn, as soon as the light came up when we were, it was light enough to rehearse.

Well, if we, you know, if you go in that way, then I'm going to turn this way away from me. Like, everything was as close to mimicking real, as you could, you know, huge body reaction. So that when we did it, I don't know if they had three or four cameras that day, as my guess.

Yeah. But they had to like be smart about that too because they want it from every angle so you can't, you can't get a quick, exciting of a camera. Right. And those were bigger cameras then. Yeah. But it was so much fun. And I did cut myself and I did have to get a tet in a shot. Right. Yeah. Experience Harry Styles live in London, England at Wembley Stadium. This is Harry Styles. IHartRadio wants to send you and a mate across the pond with flights from

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I'm Tom Bo. On our podcast, inside American soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about balligan. I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team.

And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen, inside American soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Do you remember that this is? this is when we had our blackberries. Yes. And at some point.

Who gave you a blackberry? You did. Thank you. I didn't have a lot of them. I was like, who would really want this? Oh my gosh. You made my life. You made my life.

I mean, also it was just the best time to be on the set and be texting. I wish we had all those. I know. I do have one. I have them. I just don't have them. I just don't have the messages. Right, me neither because they're gone or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. I remember. RIM, made by a company called RIM. RIM? Yes, out of like Waterloo Canada or something. Yes. Yes.

You had the connection, man. You were on it. She's on it on all the things. No, no, no. No. No. No. You had it on your little belt.

It was the cutest thing in the world. Well, because the OR might call. I might be called into surgery at any time. Totally. Totally. So the day of this, I was not working, but I knew you had to do it. I remember feeling anxiety about it and excitement also, right?

It was in the park, so it was near me. And I remember at some point, maybe I had to come in later. Maybe you just texted me or maybe it was the next day. But paparazzi had been around and had gotten a picture that they felt was, you know, revealing. Oh, really? Do you remember this? Interesting. To me, I remember it as being so completely horrifying.

And you were like, they don't have any. And I said, are you sure? I was so panicked for you. Did they? No. Oh, okay. They did not. I think that they wanted money.

Oh, wow. But you were knowledgeable. You were on it. Really? Yeah. I mean, was it see-through when I got wet? It was somehow. It suggested that you're seeing a lot because of the nature of that chiffon.

Yes. And it did get wet. And you had a nude color. Yeah, I did. That's true. That's true. So they were perceiving that as skin. But you were like, no.

I was wearing that thong. Yeah, of course I was. Cossabella. Definitely. Yes. I think I'm wearing one now. So you forever changed my life, Pat, and you have forever changed my life in many ways. You got to get the Gossabella.

I was like, I've never worn anything like that in my life. I'd only ever worn like Carter's underwear. No way. And then eventually Calvin Klein when we all stood in line of Bloomingdale's when they came out. Yes, those bras. It was the men's brief that I was like. Well, you, yes. I never could pull that off.

I could not. I could not. I could not. I thought you were the Kosobella connection. I didn't know Pat would put you. Wow. She said there was a lingerie shop on university between, I think, ninth and tenth on the east side of the street that had beautiful bras. I think they had Marquette.

Ooh. And Kosa Bella. They were thongs, not G-strings, right? Thongs. I think in the beginning they were G strings maybe because there were some where they had just skinny mesh at the back. But then they went to just a string. Oh, no, no, no, no. I didn't wear those.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You got to draw the line. I love it that we draw the line anywhere. Okay, wait. This is my last one. But I have to talk about the Dior for a second. Yeah, the dress is amazing. The dream.

Now, there's this whole drama that I did text you about. Yes. Where it's unclear. If there's one dress or two dresses, and where they live. So they live at Dior. Dior has them. They had it back right away. We never had the Dior dress. Got it.

So that when we had to borrow it for and just like that, we think it wasn't the same dress anyway. Got it. That the print might not have been the exact same. Yes. But that is one of the dresses that we returned immediately. What I love about that dress is the way we got to shoot it on Park Avenue.

I think she's crossing Park Avenue. Is Alan Colter? No how to use that camera. And that was that long lens. And see, that's like the ways in which we, you know, could we have imagined it? No, because really nobody else, even Law & Order, which was really cool. Like they were showing a city and shooting it like a movie, for sure. It was one camera cinema.

But it was a very different movie. Very different. Yeah. And a procedural. So they had things they had to do. Right. And those are kind of rules. It's like if you're going to make a 7-year-old blog, you have to use a great, a certain grape.

But we didn't have any of those rules. And so all these guys that were using the camera really, really well. I mean, kind of Charles McDougal. Oh, yes. Would you just say? Alan Taylor, Alan Coulter. Yeah, Alan Coulter loved that camera. love that freaking camera.

Such a genius. And the camera crew became so important in our show. Like they were superstars. They were. They really were. Revereed. Yes. You know, our sound mix are always revered because the ways in which they had to hide mics.

TJ. Oh, TJ. And Kim. Oh, yeah. Oh, the mics were some crazy places, you guys. Anyway, that shot with the Dior dress was kind of like you pick a dress for that reason, but we didn't know what the camera. could do with it.

Right. When we allowed all that traffic to pass and all the pedestrians and where it was in the story, like what it was doing to support the story, it's just, you know, and the hair was like really wild and the carry necklace. So it's like, it just all was like hand and glove. Yes. Yeah. And I'm glad it was that dress.

Oh my God, me too. Yeah. That's the joy when you look back and it, to me, I mean, I knew intellectually that we were doing something different. And I knew I loved it so much, obviously. But I didn't understand everything that you just said at the time, right? So looking back on it and also, like, it's incredibly cinematic. Yeah.

Like, in a very different, it breaks molds of all kinds, right? I'll tell you one other quick thing is that there was, there used to be in the New York Times, a supplement that was, and I think you'll remember this. And a lot of New Yorkers well, but it was a TV guide. Yeah. And it was a decent size. It was big like this. Yeah. And it was the TV shows for the week, including your VHS numbers to program in so you could tape a show.

And we were on the cover of the New York Times TV guide. And it was a picture that Craig had shot that we'd been looking at recently. And it's kind of an ugly dress. It's like a mustard or ochre-colored dress. She's wearing a bordeaux-colored leather jacket. She's leaving someplace where some guy's apartment where she, couldn't find her stuff or she had spent the night someplace. Interesting.

It's not a really pretty. She's got like a kind of crocheted green. None of it is really pretty. Okay. But it's a picture that Craig shot, who was our unit. At Blankenhorn. Craig Blankinhorn, who he loved so much. Who's just so gifted.

Brilliant. And when I saw that picture, I was so excited, first of all, that the New York Times had picked us to be, because, you know, New York Times. Dream. But the picture that Craig took was from far away and kind of high. I think maybe there were a leaf fall. There's some atmospheric thing. It's lower fifth.

The camera pulls way back. And when I saw that in my head and in my heart, I was like, oh, that's what we're doing. Okay. That's what we're doing. Interesting. Because you could kind of feel the camera, but if you weren't looking at everything all the time,

you wouldn't know it in the same way, but that picture of Craig's telling me what we were doing, I was really proud of what the crew was able to pull off. To create. Like the portraits and the tabloes that they were doing. I just thought of one thing when you talked about the leaf, I hope it's okay if I ask you one more question because it's something that I don't know the answer to

and we're coming up to it in the rewatch. Oh, okay. Do you remember after 9-11, you and Willie went out on the street? We shot. We shot. I was in a Vivian Westwood dress and Manola Blonick shoes. And we were shooting by what is now APC. Yes.

It was a restaurant at the time. And we shot a whole scene and we have pictures of that scene. That scene was cut. and I don't remember you know who will know that Michael Patrick will have all the answers It was on Perry and Westforth Wow

Yeah so you're probably shooting other scenes that day At Carrie's stoop It doesn't exist and this is why I was unsure So it must have been part of the scenes that Was it part of I heart New York? I heart New York Which was post 9-11 which has

Before the monologue she has about When he goes off to Napa but she has that very prophetic monologue about passing. You recorded that before, correct? Correct. That's what's insane. Correct. And I think that also threw me off.

Everyone thinks that we filmed that after, but we did not. We filmed it before, which is just Michael Patrick being prescient. I 100%. Okay, got it. Because when September 11th happened, and I realized what I had said, I said to Michael Patrick, we're going to use it? He said, yeah, absolutely. He said it's so

Yeah So that scene with Willie Got it Me and Willie was part It would have been in that In that one Cut You'll have Michael Patrick

We'll know exactly what show it was in This makes sense This makes sense Because for me I've never been sure It's beautiful The pictures are beautiful Yeah And the dress is beautiful

It's I know that dress was amazing So good Yeah Okay cool There's so many more things I don't know If you're willing If you're willing.

If you're willing, I know we barely scratched the surface. I know you did. I mean, but I know you are. But I mean it. But I mean it. Let me say on the record right now. Okay. If you don't ask me, I would be hurt.

Oh. And if I can do it, I'll be here. Baby. I have one more outfit. I think you have more. You'll have a similar shirt. Love it. Love it, love it, love it.

I know the shirt well. Well, great, because I have other things. I have so many things that I forever. We're going to be around and available for a while longer. Fantastic. Because we miss Cynthia this time because she's an Albany. Right, because she's an Albany shooting. We need to come back for Sin.

Okay. And it was so great to have the girls on yesterday. And we'll have dinner. The three of us will have a meal. Oh, my God. Let's have a meal. Because we did last time. I don't even think I was here for the podcast when we had that meal.

Oh, you weren't here for the podcast? I don't know what the hell I was doing. But I was here. It was really fun. It was such a good meal. It was really good meal. Love you, Kristen Davis. I love you, Sarah Jessica Parker.

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