Are You A Charlotte? - SNL's Rachel Dratch is Ready for a Little 'Sex'... (S2 E16 "Was It Good For You?")

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Former SNL fan favorite Rachel Dratch is here talking sex! This is in Rachel's area of expertise as she was a guest star on And Just Like That and was directed by Cynthia Nixon. From sharing a cosmo with SJP and portraying Miranda on SNL to having to analyze Charlotte's sex performance in this episode, you won’t want to miss a second! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, Are You a Charlotte? Hi, hi, hi. Rachel Drogh. Hello. I'm so excited. Me too.

Nice to see you. We are here at Are You a Charlotte? Thanks for listening and watching or whatever you're doing. You guys, it's good to be here. Rachel is here. We have a couple things to talk about, but technically we are here to be watching an episode of Sex and the City from season two. So kind of back in the day, it is called Was it Good for You? It's a very interesting episode.

But also, those of you who watch all the shows would know that Rachel joined us on and just like that, which was really, really fun. She was in the episode, Bomb Cyclone, which was a cool episode. Cynthia directed. Yes. And let me just say, it was like, it was one of those moments, like, I mean, I watched Sex and City back. It was my Sunday night ritual. So, I mean, I loved it and still do. But so then when I got the call that I was.

was going to be. That was, I hate the term bucketless, but it was a total, it was a bucketless moment. So then when I walked in to the read through, I mean, you don't understand, maybe you do, because maybe everyone that comes in is like this, but I was just like, oh, I was having a total, I was like, there's everybody, there's all the cast. And it's a lot, right? Yeah, but I mean, it was like, in the most fun way. Good. Everyone was really friendly, but it was also just like, anytime you're on something that you used to watch before you ever, like, you know, dreamed of making it. But anyways, so yes, that was very excited. It's hard to, it's hard for us.

I mean, people do say this, and it's super interesting. I mean, for me, and you come from Saturday Night Live, which to me, there's nothing more intimidating or frightening or scary or, like, I literally don't know how you guys do it. Like, I mean, I technically know how you do it, but the idea of that pressure, you know, like, like, or. Wow, wow, wow. And, you know, every week creating that show and not knowing, like, having to prove yourself and, you know, not get cut the skid and the – like, oh, Lord, Lord, Lord. But the read-throughs are the closest that we come because Michael Patrick is old school. You know, he came from old-school sitcoms, right? Yeah.

So especially back in the day of, for instance, this particular episode we're going to talk about was in 1999, which is kind of funny to say. Like, a long time ago, we would have our read-throughs back then, and they were at, have you shot at Silver Cup? Yeah. Yeah, it's so adorable and like weirdly old-fashioned. Yeah. We would have them in a, like a room probably this size, like a much smaller room back then. And if you did Atlanta joke, you know, in the read-through, that joke would get cut. Right, right, you know?

Yeah. And once we then did end just like that, we were often just this huge room. I mean, so many people, and we would have the iPad so that everyone back in L.A. at HBO could be watching. Did you notice that? There were iPads set up like this, like semi-ina innocuously, you know what I mean? But they're filming you for everyone back in La La Land to be watching, which was interesting. And then there'd be like just like so, so many people at those read-throughs. And I would say to my younger pretend children, you know, on the show, like, Like, you guys, like, really, like, hate your jokes. Yeah. Like, maybe, like, what do you mean? Because, you know, it's a different world now, right? Right, right.

You just be, like, so quiet over there in the read-through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get cut. Don't get your stuff cut. Right, right. Yeah, but it's, it's obviously you were fully on and wonderful, but like, they want to see it. Yeah. You know, they want to see it.

Oh, I didn't even realize that we were being watched from afar. I know. It makes sense, I guess. I know. Right. The new, the new. technology is interesting but it's better than having like

even more people in the room right that's true yeah but it does have like a almost like a live theater element those read-throughs yeah yeah yeah it's so much fun yes well that was my you know dream come true I was when I was in I was in a scene with

SJP can I call her that I was in a scene with Sarah Jessica Parker and like I hate to say this because it's kind of unprofessional but like while I was in the scene I was in the scene but then there was also like the other Rachel like I'm in a scene with Sarah Jessica

and Margaret so I was like fan girling and trying to act at the same time but it was super fun though yeah and then you went for a drink is this right did you tell the story this is so funny so we were shooting in a hotel because this big like you know conference was the scene

and so then it was the end of the day and Cynthia was directing and Sarah Jessica Parker was like well I'm going to go get a go get a drink at the bar like end of the day and she's like do you want anything and I was first I was like because I get very like shy around my idols like right now but anyway so she's like do you want to drink and I was like oh sure I'll have a margarita because that's my usual go-to and then she was like well I'm going to get a cosmo and then I was like oh I have to get the cosmo it was like make a wish

or some auction item. Like, have a cosmo with Sarah Jessica Bar for you. So I was like, I'll have a Cosmo. So then she came up with these styrofoam cups from the bar. Styrofoam. I don't know why, but whatever. It was like the takeaway of something. But then the funny thing is like Cynthia, who I also, you know, don't know well at all.

Like, who is the director? Like, there I am on the set at the end of the day. It's like, boozing it up. And I wanted to be like, I've never done this. Because it seemed, I'm still holding my object. I know. Let me put that down. That's right.

But look, Sarah Jessica gave you the go ahead. You're not in trouble. I know, but I was a little bit like, I'm drinking on the job. But I did get to have a Cosmo with Sarah Jessica Parker. That was a big moment for me. And what was it like having Cynthia direct? Was that bizarre? I mean, like, I don't know how the show usually works.

So I was just, you know, she was a good director and she was giving me good notes. But, you know, nothing too, like, intrusive. So she did a great job, in my opinion. but, you know, I didn't know if she was directing there all the time. Like, I didn't know if that was her first time. Because, you know, you're just like, when you come into someone's set, you're just sort of like, I'll go where they tell me. Of course, of course, of course. Was that her first time directing?

No. No. Bomb Cyclone was not her first time directing. She had directed the episode where she has a experience with Che in Carrie's apartment. In the kitchen? Yes. She directed herself. Can you believe that?

And then the next episode where I find out about it in the park and I yell at her, she also directed that. Can you believe that? I mean, directing your own sex scene. I know. It's a whole meta situation. Right? Wow. I know.

She's so brave. That would be difficult, I think. She did so great, though. Yeah. So great. Now, Michael Patrick was also around because when we went to the scene, first of all, this is something that, that, happens frequently to me, which is bizarre. I would read a script, and we would do the read-through, of course, and I would perceive it as

happening one certain way. Like, for me, and this is more to do with me than to do with the script, I thought that scene where she has an interlude with Che and Carrie is in the bed because she's had her hip replacement thing or whatever it was. It's a hip replacement, right? Okay. I thought it was going to be funny. But it really, really wasn't, like it really, really wasn't.

No, it was very intense and serious. It was intense and scary. Do you know what I mean? Like scary. There were a lot of sounds from what I recall. Sounds and then like Carrie is so stressed. Right. And then she has to pee in a snapple bottle.

Do you remember this? Oh, right. See, when I read that, that seemed comic to me. Oh, I could see that, yeah. You know? Yeah. So then when it came out, I was like, whoa. Oh, that's interesting.

Right? Yeah, that could have been a comic thing. Right? And then when the scene comes in the park where I find out, and I'm talking about ships sailing for some reason. I don't know why. I can't remember. Like, you know how you remember weird things about your acting?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is this true for you? Yeah. Like, you remember things that aren't necessarily the most important thing, right? Right. So we're outside, we're at Battery Park, and there are ships out in the ocean, and I'm comparing something to ship sailing.

I don't know what. Maybe her and Eigenberg slash Steve, I don't know, meaning Miranda and Steve. And Michael Patrick's there. Cynthia is technically directing. So she's set up the shot. She's set up the blocking. We've rehearsed all that stuff.

I think it's kind of a Charlotte scene where I'm like, I mean, you know, you're attracted to a non-binary person. It's a moment. It's not a big deal. Like I thought it was like that, like Charlotte being like, oh, you know, it's fine. No. He comes to me, Michael Patrick, and he's like, yell at her. Oh, what?

And he goes, you are the moral compass here. I was like, oh, I'm the moral compass. Oh, my gosh. Oh, so you had to be all stern or something? Well, I had to really. I don't remember this, like, in this much detail, but. I know, which is fine. We're not supposed to.

I mean, we'd like to think I have a card catalog. No, I know. No, no, no, no. It just came to me because I was thinking about her directing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so interesting because she was in the scene, right? Right. And I don't know in the scene.

scene if she would have told me to shout at her necessarily, right? But Michael was, like, just kind of whispering in my ear, like, you have to carry the weight of the moral reality that she has now kind of irrevocably broken her marriage to Steve. Wow. I know. I was not looking at it with this, like, PhD thesis. Me neither, me neither, right? So, like, it's just one of those interesting things where, like, yes, she was directing,

but she was also in that scene. So he was kind of like the little birdie in my ear to kind of in a way enliven that scene for her. You know what I'm saying? In a way where when you're directing yourself, you can't necessarily do. Right, right. Though she probably would have done that because this is the thing that I remember. And bomb cyclone, definitely. So that was bomb cyclone.

She directed the second season. She wasn't able to direct the third season because she was doing Gilded Age. Oh, right. And just like that at the same time, which was insanity. Yeah. But she's amazing, obviously, and can handle all of it. She really wanted to direct, and they were like, no, you're, you know, there's not enough of you. Bomb Cyclone, I remember she really, she didn't have a huge storyline for herself and that.

And so she directed us a lot, like a lot. Yeah, I was like, Cynthia, it's so many notes. I can't remember. I can't remember. But you were perfect in the read-through. I remember that. So you didn't need any notes. Well, I had kind of a goofy part

So that was good for me I didn't have to have an interlude in the kitchen So I knew intimacy coordinator needed I know, I know, thank God But I love the whole The whole like, you know What is your take on the character

That you played which is, you know I just, oh this is kind of funny Like so I just saw her as this So I played this like event planner For Carrie's book tour And I'd set up But then I come in and we had worked together work together long ago

we had tried to write a screenplay together that never got off the ground. But anyway, I come in like, remember me? So I just saw myself as a pest. So that's what I just saw myself as. But then the funny, and I kept using that word in my mind, I'm a pest. Then the cool thing is when I came in

for my costume fitting, they had earrings for me that were house flies. Because you know how they go so, I mean, you know, I'm not saying anything new, like they go wacky. And guess what guys? They take risks. The costume is up. But they were house flies, and they also had a big insect necklace for me.

And I was like, this is so, like, weird. I know, Molly, and Danny are, like, on another level of communication. Who even knew there were housefly earrings? I mean, I certainly didn't. So go back and look very closely to my ears in that scene. Wow, I love it so much. And so you, your character is named Carrie. But I used to be named Karen, but I said not a good time for white women named Karen.

So I go by Carrie now, like K-E-R-R-R-W. Or something like that. Like, Carrie, Carrie. It was too funny. Really trying to, like, make the connection with Carrie. It was too funny. Much to her noise. I'm so glad.

I think that they, I don't know the details because I'm not in the writer's room, but I think they wrote that hoping that you would do it. Oh, well, I'll just believe that to be true. No, that was so fun. There's some things like that you, you know, wish you could be on a certain show, and I never even dreamed of it. So that was a good call to get, yeah. Yeah.

You know how you guys used to spoof us on Saturday Night? Oh, yeah. Did you ever play me? No, it was so weird. I played, okay, I did a horror. Christina Aguilera was the host. And I don't know when, no, she played Samantha. And I got sort of a son.

Oh, Kristen played me. Who did? Kristen Whig? No, she wasn't on yet. Maybe she played me later. But I did not do a good impression. You didn't? No, I mean, I'm just going to be honest here.

Like, my impression's like, if I see someone, I'm like, oh, I could do them. That's one thing. Right. But if you just get told, like, you're doing Cynthia X, I just wasn't, you know, I don't have that savant thing. So I just threw on the red wig and crossed my fingers, you know. I'm sure it was fine. I forget who played you. I forget who played me, too, because I feel like it happened more than once that they spoofed they meeting you guys.

And, I mean, it was like such a kind of an honor, really, to get spoofed. You know what I mean? And at one point, someone spoofed me wearing polka dot, like a polka-it-up pussy bow. And I was like, well, that's all you have to do is just put on the blouse. Right, right. It's fine. I mean, you know what I'm saying. I've done many over the years, like maybe after I was there, too.

But that's the one I remember that Christina. Oh, she was a funny Samantha. And she just said, like, I think she came in like, well, I can do these people. And so like they had, so then they write the scene. Yeah, exactly. That's how that works. I get it. I get it.

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you will love Cardiac Cowboys. Listen on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Sponsored by Jasper, AI Build for Marketers. So this is my other thing I want to ask you. So when you say that it was kind of amazing, and interesting to come on a show you'd already watched. What was your experience of watching? Like, when did you start?

Oh, oh, my gosh. Well, I remember the fall of 99. It was my first season on SNL. Oh, wow. And so I just had this, like, little apartment on the Upper West Side. And, like, there was a while where I had no furniture because the movers, like, lost my... When I first got the job, you're, like, so excited. And I remember, like, in this little apartment with, like, just sitting on this little, like, you know, mat.

But I had the TV. And that was my Sunday night ritual. Like I look as soon as you hear that HBO like That chord It just gives me a good feeling And then like the opening music of it Like it just I feel like it just so

Encapsulated You know Life in your 30s Yeah Trying to make it in wherever New York or wherever You know So it was definitely my like appointment television

But I can't I must have watched when it first came out too But that's what I remember It only been This is I think we came out In 98 It's just, this is the second season. Okay, okay.

And there were only 13 in the first season, and then we just, like, started just bam, bam, bam, trying to get them made because people were watching. Right, right. But we didn't really, at this point, people keep coming to my podcast and telling me, like, it was the biggest hit. I'm like, no, second season was not the biggest hit. I mean, it was for us great, right? Because we didn't really ever perceive what was coming.

you know who could right yeah but then to me third season was when it kind of like bumped up oh okay okay it took time because HBO was kind of new to original programming and whatnot you know what I mean so I think like like women were like quietly watching it you know what I mean and then it just kind of built it built it built and we were just talking to any press people who would ever talk to us like we were just like begging people like will you please talk to us, which is funny to think about now. Wow, yeah. In the old and day media.

Because I just, I was telling you, I just watched, like, eight of them in a row on a plane. And I was just like, and some of them, like, they're very poignant. Like, some of them, they really get you. But they're also funny. Like, that's what I love. I mean, I love anything that's, like, both things. I agree. Because also it's very hard to do.

It's so hard to do this. And I don't think people necessarily realize, nor should they. I guess it's not their job, right? But, like, to be able, and I love that they allowed us to try to do all the different things, you know? And when you look back, especially in the beginning, well, in the beginning, beginning, there's just darkness. Like the men are just like, oh. I mean, I felt when I watched it at least. I mean, it really took me back in a bad way to the 90s.

I'm talking about the very beginning, which was really based on Candace's column, you know. Oh, right, right. And as Candace told me, when she came on, that was really based. on people just telling her stuff. Yeah. Like people would come up to parties and be like, I did blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, kind of cool, kind of scary.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love all the specifics. Yes. You guys all hit on, like, you know, the guy who this and the guy, like, you could tell that was from someone's real story, which was also fun about it. Yeah.

Yes. Yes. So once we veer off from Candace's own column, it's our writer's stories and or people they know. So there's a rule that had to be only once removed. It couldn't be like someone. heard something from someone it had to be like my friend did blah blah blah or this happened to my friend yeah which is everyone thought it was our stories thank god no it would be very hard

to act your own stories right you know that would be very weird thank god but we did there was a time where i remember we would you know how you're just sitting there for so long on a set like blah blah blah blah blah and in a certain point if the writers would walk up we just stopped talking he's scared wait say that again they'd say what we'd stop talking when the writers came Oh, because we didn't want them to hear us saying anything. I see. I thought you were being told to be quiet on the set. Oh, no, I mean, probably we were.

Probably we were. Because you were chattering so much. But you know what I mean? We were chattering a lot. But if the writers came, we would just be like, oh, God. We don't want this. We don't want them to hear anything. Right.

Important. Stop. Stop talking. But it really was not us. Okay. Okay, let's talk about this episode. Because this episode, very interesting, as I was telling you when we walked in. There's some episodes I watch, and I remember so much.

There's some episodes. I watch and I remember almost nothing. This is close to almost nothing. And I think it's because it's towards this end of the season. And you're so exhausted. And we would work all night long until the sun came up so many days a week. Yes. Like certainly Thursday, Friday into Saturday morning.

But then we would start Monday at 5 a.m. So you were just trying to turn your sleep around. That's all you were trying to do, right? And like take care of your feet, you know. Oh, in those heels? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It was a lot.

So this episode is called Was It Good for You? And it's directed by Dan Allgrant, which is also really interesting. He was like an indie filmmaker, friend of Sarah Jessica somehow, which I need to ask her how. I think this might be his second episode, which is cool, or third. And Michael Patrick King wrote this one, which is so nice. So he had come on first season, and then he's like writing more and directing more as time goes on. and at some point he basically takes over. And so many, so many men are in this.

I'm not even going to name them. We'll name them when we get to them. So this whole episode is so sad, and I didn't remember the storyline at all. This is a very sad storyline for Charlotte because the whole episode starts with Charlotte having sex with some guy we've never seen in her bed. Turns out he's asleep. Falls asleep when they are having sex. What on earth? I mean, I was shocked.

Do you remember this? Well, I don't remember seeing this one back when, but I did my homework. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Rachel. But I didn't remember. I don't remember this either. I mean, wow, sad. Yeah.

And sad for Charlotte. Yes. And then very soon we see Charlotte just having like a whole little breakdown and Carrie's apartment. And Carrie trying to be so nice to her and saying like, oh, you know, was he just, you know, and also the guy, so I'm, I'm like making little sexy noises, whatever, and then I'm like, what's his name? Kevin Flynn is his real name, Bram Walker, is his, Dr. Bram Walker. The orthopedist, or the pediatric surgeon, something like that, yes.

And that's his whole thing he's saying is, I was up at 5 in the morning, I have a very hard job. At some point he says he had three carpal tunnel syndrome, you know. surgeries. Thank you. That's the word. And then someone else wrote in my notes that they take like 20 minutes, which is kind of funny. But anyway, he's fallen asleep, which really, I cannot really actually imagine that this could happen, but I guess it must have happened to somebody. I guess so. And if that has happened to you out there, I'm really sorry. I feel like that really would be painful to one's ego, don't you think? I would imagine so, yes. Right? I can't. And even, it's weird.

It's interesting. I mean, it must have happened to someone because it ended up in here. It's funny because when I was watching this, I wasn't even thinking of it as so bad because in the context of the, like, everything that happens on the show, this seemed like a little more tame. That's a good point. That's a good point. It is a little bit innocent in a way.

That's true. But Charlotte was upset. Well, I mean, it's just hard to, like, if you really think about it, it's hard to really imagine this happening. like it would be weird. I feel like you'd be like, I just feel like it would be weird. I mean, I guess it would depend if it was like a one-time thing or a constant thing. And then you would be a little more concerned.

That's for sure. I also think it's because they're dating, right? Like it's not even like when you've been in a relationship for a lot of time. Right. Like it should be exciting. Yes. Right? Theoretically, it should be exciting.

Yeah. But so what I, this is one of the things I love when I'm rewatching. I just like to carry a storyline through, right? rather than switching back and forth, like, how the show does. So one of the things, so we cut to Carrie, some, what's my name? Charlotte's telling Carrie about it and crying, like, so upset, you know, very Charlotte. And Carrie's being so sweet, like, her little sweet. You know, when people talk about this whole thing that happened really during COVID,

I think, about, like, Carrie's not a good friend, Carrie's a narcissist. Did you see all that? Yeah, and I was like, I never brought into that. Me neither. Me neither. I'm Team Carrie. Me too. Yeah, I didn't even.

get that. I know. I agree. 100%. It seemed really odd to me. I mean, I do think too, like the internet is its own animal and it just does some weird stuff sometimes. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And then they all, everyone jumps in. Yeah. I don't get how that came up. Me neither. Because like in this particular scene, like there's so many instances, especially way back where, I mean, she's such a sweet friend. Yeah. Like, she's just trying to make me feel better. She's trying to make me tea. should know what else to do. And then I say, did anyone ever fall asleep having sex with you? And she's like, well, we'll know.

It's really so sweet. And then the thing that I really love, and I do remember this part, is that Charlotte's solution or, you know, plan for this is that she needs to take a tantric sex class. Yes. Right? And I do remember in the 90s, there was a fair amount of conversation about tantric sex. Do you remember this? I don't. I mean, what I mean is, like, not particular to the 90s.

Like, I've heard this concept. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it, got it. I remember in the 90s, I think, because also I was in L.A., right, where yoga. Okay, yeah. Was booming. And so the tantric sex kind of comes out of yoga. Yeah.

So. I remember hearing Sting practices this. 100%. That was a big, no. I think that's how most people know. Yeah. Very impressive. We've all heard about.

Sting. Sting, man. We're impressed, okay? Sorry to go off. No, not at all. Interrupt any time you want. I think that's how people know about tantric sex. It was stink.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Which I feel like was later, but who knows? I think it was later, yeah. I mean, I knew people who, I don't know if I'm not going to say their name, but I knew, I trained as a yoga teacher in the 90s. Oh, okay. Yeah. At yoga works when there was only one yoga works on Montana.

Did you ever go there? No, I went to one here. Yeah, because now they're everywhere. Everywhere. They're everywhere, which is amazing. But this is back in the 90s. It was before I started working a lot. I was auditioning a lot, which is really hard, obviously. And my solution to the stress of that was to go to yoga every morning. That was like my, you know, like how to get through it. And then I thought, well, gosh, you know, maybe I should just do this because I loved it. But at that point in time, this was early 90s, people thought the yoga was a religion. Like they still didn't really realize. No, it's something that you can just do for your body. your mind and it's not a religion, religion. You know, there's still kind of woo-woo, to use your word. Yes. There's woo-woo.

I told Sarah Jessica that you're coming on and that you had a podcast and she said, what's it called? And I said, I think it's called the woo-woo, or maybe it's woo-hoo. So we had a whole conversation about whether it was woo-hoo. It's woo-woo. Woo-woo. I love it. I love it.

Because I am the queen of the woo-woo in our group. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, yeah, I've done all the things. By the way, I noticed that on your Wikipedia, the year of Pisces and your birthday's a day after mine, but we'll talk about that later. Oh, my God! The Pisces Queen's! Anyway, I'm really taking you off topic in many ways. Rachel, I love to go off.

And Drew Barrymore, too. Yes, she and I have the same birthday. Oh, my God, amazing! Amazing! I love it. I love it. The Pisces queens. We all need to do woo-woo things.

Right. That's why we're very woo-woo because we're Pisces, yeah. Right? We just got to embrace it. I think that's the most woo-woo sign. It is the most woo-o-sign without a doubt. Without a doubt. And you know what?

I'm proud of it. I don't like. Let's be woo-woo. Yes, let's. Right? Yeah. Yay. Okay.

I'm so glad. I'm so glad. Okay, we got that done. Okay. Back to the. So I always wondered, I remember when this was happening and I wondered, because also we would all sometimes do yoga in scenes. Do you remember those episodes?

Oh, yeah. Like, there's one where all four of us are doing yoga. Yes. There's one where Carrie and I are doing yoga. And I don't know if that was me related because I think I did talk about it kind of incessantly. But also, it was very much like the new thing at the time, you know. So the tantric sex thing, I remember this part because it was one of those scenes where we're just like, oh, my God, how are we ever going to get through this?

You know, Charlotte signs all the girls up to go. It's not their idea. It's her idea. And I have to beg them at the coffee shop, like, please come. And even Samantha agrees to come. and they come and there's this lovely yes oh my god no the casting on the people was so perfect it was so good right it was like chef's kiss perfect 100% and not easy to do no i remember the stress of like who is going to be teaching and who's going to be receiving or whatever you want to call it

demonstrating totally oh my god that guy was like the perfectly cast i know and i remember New York character. 100%. At the time, I am, like, we are all so mortified, like, so mortified that these people, these older actors have come on to our show to do this insane thing. When I watch it now, I really enjoyed watching it,

partly because I know, I remember that we could barely get through it. Like, it's one of those things you can barely get through. Like, Sir Jessica is laughing her real self. Oh, that's, I love that. Yes. too. And I am trying to be my best Charlotte self. I'm taking those notes, man. I'm like in it to win it. You know what I'm saying? Which I love. Like to me, that's very kind of quintessential Charlotte.

I'm also telling them to be quiet, which I love so much. I'm like, shh. Yeah. Which is really enjoyable. Do you know what I mean? And they're all over there like cooking up and, you know, the lady has to tell them to stop laughing. And Samantha is also so sweetly because of her own storyline which we'll get to in a second she's so sweetly kind of engaged and like rooting for them in a way yeah and then sir jessica slash carey it's just laughing her head off and then cynthia you know we this we my producers reminded me that we did you ever know that michael patrick did a writer's um podcast of and just like that oh i heard i haven't listened to but i've heard that it does yeah it's really good and it's very in depth in terms of the writer's room and what

They were thinking more for, and just like that. He didn't do one for Sex and City, though. I wish they would because that would be super interesting. And we went on when it was the 25th anniversary, I think, of the show. Sarah Cynthia and I went on his podcast, and we relived the scene. I don't know why it came up, random, really random. But one of the reasons it came up, I think, was like there haven't been that many times where different people have consistently broken, right?

Like for Sarah Jessica's break, it's very rare, very, very rare, right? And this was one of those times. Like, she could not stop laughing. Oh, my God. And then Cynthia has to have the... Yes. The substance. Well, maybe not the substance.

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Listen on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Sponsored by Jasper, AI Build for Marketers. We go to the Tentric sex class, which we think, I believe, is just going to be this lady. arriving things to us, and she does do that. But then at a certain point, she brings out her husband, who is this ponytail, you know, lovely older man, and he lays on a pillow in front of us, and she does the lingam massage, I believe she calls it, which is like, whew, and our heads very carefully. At one point, my booklet that I'm taking my notes in blocks, there's a very creative

blocking of any kind of private parts. which I remember was a lot of the stress of filming that, you know, separate from the fact that we couldn't stop laughing. But then so the massage goes on for quite some time. I mean, quite some time, right? Yeah. And we're all doing our different, you know, Charlotte's taking notes and trying to figure out what the lady's doing and Samantha's like, go, girl, you know,

and Carrie's laughing, and Miranda's leaning forward, like, well, this is very interesting. And then all of a sudden, the man comes, I guess, I can say that, I can say whatever I want, I guess we could bleep it. And it hits Miranda in the face. And it was a very kind of one of those very low-tech but also precise prop-type situations. Oh, yeah. Right, where our... Yeah, what was that set up? It's Juergens, lotion.

Okay. Yes. And like, was someone there with like a... A spoon? I don't know. A spoon. Correct. I was wondering if it was more of like a Nerf gun situation or something.

It was a spoon flung, and he was under the camera. It was Travis, our incredible prop guy, who really just kept our lives together at that point in time. And he's like under the camera, and he asked to just aim the spoon, just right at Cynthia's head. God love him. And it hit her hair and her nose. And she did not break at all. Wow, that's a professional. Crazy, right?

I mean, you all are professionals, but coming from someone who breaks. I don't know what I would do in that, but, wow. Honestly, I don't know what I would do in that either. And I remember the stress of it all, right? Like the stress of having to theoretically watch this and this man is laying there and just obviously he wasn't doing what he's pretending to do, but I mean, it was just very stressful. And I feel like we were there for a while doing it. Oh, wow.

You know what I mean? But the thing that I love also just to finish this storyline, and I had fully forgotten this, is that then when Miranda is back at home, she's bought these beautiful sheets that were really expensive. Oh, yeah. And she's sitting there reading a book, and there's all these tissues next to her, and Carrie's voiceover just says something like, back at Miranda's, you know, things were going better because, well, I don't know, whatever.

She says, things were nice on her nice sheets. And you're like, what are all those tissues doing? Is she crying? Is she reading a sad book? Is she crying? No, she's dabbing her hair and her nose still. Oh, still. Oh, okay.

Just in case. Just to remind you. Yeah, I'm sure she's showered in everything, but she's still just like multiple dabbing, which is so adorable. I'd forgotten all that. I only really remember out of this whole episode, us with the couple at the tantric sex, which then also really reminds me, and I'm just going to go out of order because it's fun.

these two gay men want to have sex with Samantha because they've never done it and they think she's the hottest most beautiful straight woman they know and they want to have sex with her which is adorable so she's walking on the street she's talking to Carrie about it and Carrie's like but they're gay you know very Carrie and basically Samantha says to her you know for a sex columnist you are not very progressive which is true then she says something like You are not with the times. You know, the future of sexuality is that everyone will be pansexual. Right, right. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, yeah. In 1999, she says that. Yeah.

Isn't that kind of true? Yeah, it seems to be. Right? Yeah. Like we've come a long, long way. Yeah. Like the whole dichotomy, gay, straight, like that's pretty much done. Right, right.

Like there's many options. Right, right. You know, which I think there should be. even though in certain ways our culture is not moving forward, in that way, it seems to be potentially moving forward. Yeah. Don't you think? Yeah.

I mean, Samantha was on it. Yeah. That's something you would hear now. Yeah. I mean, I was very impressed. But it doesn't go so great with the gay men. No, it doesn't. They lose their will to be with a lady.

They lose their will. And the thing that really made me laugh. So here we have this like tantric sex thing where our heads are all very carefully blocking, you know, the private parts, but then in the scene where Samantha does go to potentially have sex with the two gay men, even though she's very on the fence about it, but then they're so, um, complimentary and like, you're amazing, you're amazing, you're amazing. She's like, oh, okay. And then they kiss her on the neck and everything is going fine. And then they very, very delicately go down her body. But he's like, oh, okay. And then they very, very delicately go down her body. She's wearing this nightgown, and it's extremely, like, almost conservative the way they filmed it. That's true. Right? Yeah. Because in reality, they get to the private parts, and they're like, no.

Right. They're like, I can't do this. No. They're like, no, that's not for us. Right. But they don't show, of course, anything. Like, nothing. You have to just fill it in with your mind what's happening, you know?

Which I thought was interesting, but I also feel like if, you know, it, it was a lot. I think the way they filmed it made it seem, it almost made it seem more like psychological than like physical. Right. Even though the implication was it was like, we were backing out of this general area. 100%. 100%. And I think it could also have been, I mean, I don't know what the right. writers were thinking, but like, you know, we don't want to offend our viewers.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we want to be tasteful, you know, in that way, at least, right? And, I mean, I felt like it was. And that, that was kind of comical, too. Definitely. Like, the way that those guys acted was, I thought they were pretty funny.

They were pretty funny. Their whole, like, I can't do this, was pretty funny. It was pretty funny because they just wanted them to get on their clothes and go get food or whatever. Yeah. It was cute. I forgot about that. cute. And they also kind of look weirdly

like twins. They did. They looked so similar. Right? Yes. Which I'm sure was on purpose. Yes, it had to be. Yeah. And I feel somehow that we've run into one of them. Like, I think one of them is a friend of somebody's or something. Because I feel like sometimes they

talk about it. Either, let's see, Sean or Brad, have so many men. So many men are listed as guest stars. Which is pretty common. But I feel, yes, they look very familiar, though I didn't remember the storyline. I mean, this was a fun episode because I was like, what's going to happen? I don't know. I like it. I like to have that, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny to think that my body and my spirit and my mind and whatever was there,

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