Are You A Charlotte? - The Long and the Short of it with Mickey Guyton... (S3 E2 "Politically Erect")

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Things you didn't see... Kristin reveals a mishap during the party for Bill Kelley that ended in a bloody mess. Looks versus personality, Kristin weighs in and reveals what she has in common with Samantha. Plus, Mickey Guyton can relate to Samantha's storyline and reveals the details of her own Mr. Big.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back to Are You a Charlotte? This is part two with Mickey Guyton. We are breaking down episode 302 about politics. That's all I'm going to say. I only have one memory from this whole show for Charlotte. Okay. And it's a weird one. So there's a scene where Carrie invites the girls to go to a political fundraiser for slattery.

That was so good. And we all have big hair, which is really interesting to me that that's our perception of how, like, a political party outfit should be. Well, because it's some, is that today. Is it? Oh, my God, it kind of is. It is. Oh, my God.

I didn't even think of that. That is so true. I didn't even think of that. It's, like, weirdly, like, someone teased my hair, which I really have, like, a no teasing rule. But apparently back then, maybe that's how I got that rule was that episode. I have, like, a big, poofy hairdo. And I'm wearing some borrowed diamonds.

I can tell that people are starting to lend us jewelry because I've got some big earrings on. And in this particular scene, it's Samantha, Carrie, Charlotte in a row at the end of a table, and they're filming across the table at us. And we're drinking and we're looking at the people at the party and we're talking about the men. And I'm talking about how, you know, this is a great place to meet people. You were so excited. I know. Charlotte was ready. Excited, man. She's very excited at all times. Totally. Totally. So then I say something like, I'm going to go mingle or whatever. And I remember that what Michael Patrick had told me to do was to leave, like, walk out of the scene with a lot of purpose.

Like, I've got my drink, I think. I think I have my drink. Maybe I didn't even have my drink. I just walk off and I was supposed to be like walking towards my next husband because this is when we start that Charlotte really wants to get married, right? Like hardcore wants to get married. So he told me to do this. And I don't know how many sets you've been on or whatever, but they do funky things like for the camera track.

So that was like a whole dining room. room and they had rolled up the carpet for the camera to be at the end to film us. But I had to walk in that direction. So I'm trying to walk and look for my, you know, potential next husband like out in the distance and the big old camera, sorry, carpet roll was like right there. And I just put my toe into it and just fell hardcore, fell right into this guy who was playing a waiter like an extra. And my earring scratched this guy so badly that he bled.

Like, I fell into him so hard that my diamond earring, like, scratched him all the way down. I know. Luckily, it did not rip my ear out. Thank God. But my diamond scratched this poor guy. I don't remember his name. And blood, blood was shed. And I was down.

Okay. Show yourself. Exactly. Show yourself on Instagram. But, you know, and then I was just, of course, so mortified. And, like, the scene was still going on, mind you. You know, and I'm just like, bam, like down flat, down flat. down to flat, which is a very me.

That is a very me thing. I have committed. So 100% that I didn't even look down. He told me to look for my future husband. And I'm looking. I'm looking to, oh, we didn't believe in bloopers. Oh, no, we got rid of all of them. I guess you can't do that.

We were so afraid. We were so afraid. There were a lot of, there were a lot of bloopers. I feel, I feel like one of the movies we had bloopers. I want to say, I should investigate that. I feel like, yes. But the show, we were like, No, no, we don't want to see our bloopers.

There would have been so many. You know what I'm saying? And we were just trying to have dignity within what we were doing, which took a lot of work, right? I mean, what y'all did, yeah. Thank you so much. So the thing, that's what I remember. But as I was watching it, so Charlotte is at this political thing, it doesn't go how she expects. And I'm pretty sure I'm supposed to be drunk.

Like, did you think that when you were watching it? I didn't think you were tipsy. Yeah. Okay. Because like my hair is a little messed up. Because you're always together. Right. So, like, you may have had, like, one and a half drink.

But I feel like... She's a lightweight. She's a lightweight. So, like, there's hair, like, down in my face, which really never happens, right? So I'm like, oh, Charlie's a little tipsy. And I'm just talking... Oh, I'm talking to this guy who is the sweetest, sweetest, sweetest. Tommy Crutup is his name.

He's Billy Crudup's brother. Okay. He's on the couch when we're still at that political party. And I think he's my next husband. Yeah. And then Elizabeth Banks comes. and he's like, this is my fiancé. And of course, Charlotte's just like, oh, no.

So Tommy grew up as a sweetheart, and he ended up going on to produce the Rachel Ray Show. I don't know if you ever saw that. Oh, I did watch the series for Rachel. And I would see him every time I would go there. And he's such a sweetheart. And then Elizabeth Banks, who comes in and she has such a little baby face. She's so young. And I think she has like two lines.

You know, it's so sweet. And I didn't even remember that she was on the show. I saw that her name was there. But I always thought I knew her. but I didn't know how I know her. Wow. Because I would see her events and we would just be like, hi. You know, like we knew each other forever.

But I didn't remember how. I mean, you were filming, you know, a hundred hour a week. How would you remember that? But I'm in there with her. You know what I mean? Hey. I'm like, well, that's how I met her. There it is right there.

That's how I met Elizabeth Banks. She's a little child on our show. That's so crazy. I know. It's so crazy, but really fun. I love to see that. So that was, there's Charlotte. I love that scene.

Did you? I did. I'm black. Especially when y'all are finally talking and you were hearing their life story. It was like, oh, there's hope for me. Right. That's true. That is what Charlotte's thinking.

Yeah. And then I say something like, I just think it's so amazing when people actually find each other. Yeah. But you're just like, she's also just dying, but that's okay. And then I think it's also really funny. And I don't remember that Charlotte throws a party for people to bring their like exes. People that they're not into anymore. Or for Samantha, that he's just too short.

I know, which we will talk about in a minute. That's a good storyline. Is it not? Well, that's happened to me too. No way. My other girlfriend. We were, yes. Oh, it's all the girlfriends.

Okay. Okay. So wait. Did it work out with the short guy? No. No. It immediately crashed and burned. It immediately crashed and burned.

I feel really bad for the short guys. I mean, it's just, it was like literally an exact thing. Like, we met them on the road. We were on our road, on our way to, like, San Francisco. driving from here to San Francisco, and we saw them in traffic. We pull over, she goes to exchange numbers with him and the little guy, and we're not tall. Like, I'm 5'3 and some change, and she may be like 5, 5, 5, and he was like just a little guy. But you saw him in the car, so you didn't know.

No, he didn't know. Wow, but aren't you brave and bold to be exchanging numbers from a car? Yeah, yeah, that was not my smartest moment. We were really young. We were really, really young. We were like in our early, like, maybe like 19. Which is even worse. Oh, my God.

I know. I hope my daughter's not listening. Do not exchange numbers with anyone in a car. No, no, no. That would never, ever, ever happen. Wow. What's your daughter's name? My daughter's name is Gemma.

Gemma. You would never, ever do this. No, definitely no, definitely no. But it is kind of funny. So, okay, so this guy, I believe his name is Anthony. Alessandro. Jeff Benton, I think that's the short guy's name. I really feel bad for this guy because, man, I mean. Our short kings. I know. He's a short king. But he's really so good. You don't know what I was saying? He was great. And so basically the gist of the storyline and I really enjoyed it so much and I didn't remember one tiny bit of it. So I didn't know what was going to happen. Samantha's out at a bar and she's sitting up at the bar and this guy. guy, good looking guy, kind of tells her she's beautiful. And then she says, oh, how many lines have you used?

How many girls have you used that line on? And he says, you know, I'm in the, you know, finance world and that's this best risk I've taken all day because you are beautiful, you know, which, of course, he's just very smooth and she's very, you know, amazing. Yes. So then he asked her up for dinner later in the week because he gets beeped on his cute beeper and he has to go back to work. I know.

And so, and she says, yes, and then he gets off the stool, and he's really little. She's like, I know, and I feel so bad. But he doesn't seem to have any kind of self-awareness about it in a bad way, meaning like, he's like, he thinks it's all going great. Yeah. So then she has to do some hardcore thinking and talking to Carrie about, like, what do I do? What do I do?

He's so little. And then we have a very politically incorrect conversation at that political party about small people. Listen, if you're short and you're packing down there, you'd have that confidence too. Totally, totally, well put, well put,

which we find out later. So she does decide, does she, wait, does she decide to go out with him and, no, she takes him to Charlotte's party. And then they hook up. And he finds out from another person there

what the theme of the party is is that you've brought a date that you're not into for whatever reason, an ex or whatever and then he's mad at samantha and he goes like what you you know what did you and she says you're just too small and he says one hour in the bed with me and you you will be happy or whatever i don't know what he says and she says well okay let's go let's go i know and isn't my apartment like that's the other i was questioning like do they go home i'm not sure i thought

it was in your apartment you did because i thought it kind of thought i did too but then her apartment I think it's her apartment because then the guy that I'm flirting with after the guy who's who goes to the banks hooks up with his ex in my bedroom on my bed on the coats of the people who come to the party very rude behavior, very rude behavior.

Very rude to do that in your house. Not cool. Not cool at all. Poor Charlotte goes through it in this episode. Poor Charlotte. But it's okay. Samantha goes and has sex with the short king and it is great. It checks out. It checks out and good for him.

But she still had a hard time with him. I know. And she still had a hard time. And this, I thought, was just a tiny bit hard to believe she goes back out to dinner with him. He gets up to go to what he describes in the little boys' room, which, you know, shouldn't probably use that phrase. And then he gets up and she sees that it says on his coat that he bought it at the boys department, which is pretty mortifying. I get it. It's pretty mortifying.

So she just-in, like, really, really a little then. I know. I mean, I was just a little, but I will tell you this. my seven-year-old son is very tall and his shoes are currently bigger than mine. I know. I know it.

It's a bit of an issue. So I can't tell at the shoe station in front of our house whose shoes are whose and it's problematic. Do you know what? And I'm like soon... Seven? Yeah.

I know. I don't know what's going to happen, man. But he loves basketball. So I'm like, keep growing, baby. Keep growing. You got to feed you. They eat so much. Right?

Oh, my God. You got to keep the food going, though, because sometimes he doesn't eat and then he's angry and that's not good. But yeah, I'm like, let's eat the protein. We got to eat the protein. But I could see very soon the clothes are going to be fitting me. And then, you know, we won't even be able to shop in the boys department anymore. It's bizarre.

But I can wear some of his boys' clothes. They're pretty cute. I wear my husband's clothes and he's six-four. Oh, nice. Yeah. That's so, you know, the more clothes, the merrier. That's laughing at me. I'm a mess.

I am sorry. It's all good. I will go all over the place with you. Hey, I love it. Hannah knows. I love it. I love it. I love it.

I mean, a tall guy. This is the problem, though. I think someone needs to discuss our obsession with height. Oh, it's, I was like, most of my boyfriends were short. Really? Yeah. And they weren't very tall. And I, this tall man.

And what could you do? Oh, it's so great. I know, but it's crazy. Like, I read something the other day about women on the apps, which I'm not. I'm not on the apps, but women, you know, you can put your height, highest and lowest height. And they all put six as the minimum. And it rules out so many men that are probably great guys. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

Like, I've just so happened to fall in love with a man that was six, four. But most of my boyfriends were guys. Which I understand. Right, because, but I just think it's one of the. We have to let it go, though. We have to let it go. You got to let it go. We got to let it go.

People don't know. The older you get, that dating pool gets smaller and smaller. Well, it just gets wacky. It's not even small. It's small, but it's wacky. Your tolerance, okay? Well, you're tolerance, but also what they've been through or who's left or whatever. It's wacky out there, right?

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Listen to Heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so what, the storyline, so Samantha, so then she sees the little boys. This was a really interesting scene. She sees that it says the boys department on the jacket. She gets up to leave while he's gone, but then he comes out of the bathroom and he sees her. And he says, where are you going? And she says, I'm sorry, I can't.

And then he basically makes her laugh, which it's kind of rare to see Samantha laughing with a guy like that. And somehow it still doesn't work out, but then I think of the voice over. Carrie says, yeah, Carrie says, you know, that relationship lasted for two weeks, which is really a lot for Samantha. And I thought, you know what, this is, like, so healthy and great for her. And not, like, she's going to end up with the guy soon who did not make her laugh. If I'm remembering correctly, we don't get a good guy for Samantha for a while. In my humble opinion, I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry to the actor that we're going to get too soon.

But I just remember like Thinking like it's such a joy to see Samantha laugh like that Because she's so powerful right But you don't always get to see her having joy with the men You see her having joy with the friends Yeah And that was such a good The way that he made her laugh

Was really like so natural I agree And like you could see that really happening in real life It's like some powerful ass woman Who nobody can get to And someone said, he's, I don't even remember what he said, but whatever it was. It was like perfect. It's about it being short or whatever I think.

He's making jokes about himself. Yeah. It was so, um, attractive. Yeah, when someone has a sense of humor, it can really disarm a person. Right? It can get you far. Yeah. Men and women, but definitely men.

Being funny, it's very powerful. Yeah, it is. Especially for women. We would love, like, you can make us laugh. It's so good. Guy or girl, you know, you got us. Totally. I totally agree.

I feel that way. I did see this crazy article. I'm just going to go ahead and say it's on my mind. I just see this crazy article that basically said, like, you know, Kristen is very all caps different from Charlotte in her dating life. And partly because the podcast makes me see all kinds of strange things that I would never normally look at. And listed people that they think I've dated. I'm not going to get into whether it was correct or not, right?

It was mostly correct. And they are very different, right? They are very different. And I was like, well, that's interesting. I don't know what someone who doesn't know me. would think about that. It's interesting. But I know that all those people

made me laugh. That's what's the same about them because they don't seem very similar when you look at them. But I know that they all made me laugh. I mean, some more than others. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

But that would be the, like, if you had to look for it. Life is too short. Like, you need somebody. And especially with your career where it is like you are stressful. And like, you're comedic. Oh, thank you. Thank you.

Like your comedic timing is. Just, that's so nice. So great. Thank you. It really, really is. Thank you. You are so great. So I can imagine, you know, how serious your life is all of the time, like, to be able to have that type of timing to be that type of an actress.

Thank you. And the work that takes into that. So you need someone that can clear all that. I do. I do need to, like, clear all that. And just be here. Definitely. Definitely.

Definitely, it's hard to find that. Isn't it? It is hard to find that. It is. It's hard to find that. It's hard to find someone that can also handle your power. Thank you. And, like, sit back and let you.

You know what I think is interesting about that? I appreciate that you say that because I think it's so nice to hear that from other women, you know? The thing that I find confusing, you know how Charlotte is, Charlotte was thought of as the nice one, right? And she is. Obviously, she's very nice. She wanted what she wanted, but she's like the nice one of the group or whatever. I think in life, people think, you know, that I'm going to be Charlotte, right? Right.

But I'm not really Charlotte, but I kind of am Charlotte. Right. And I think that men are possibly confused. Oh, so they think that you are going to be her, you know, like super. Submissive. Yes. Which I don't personally actually think Charlotte is that submissive. She's not.

She just wanted someone that was going to lead the household, but also let her lead if she wanted to. Because she's a perfectionist, right? And I mean, the nice thing about Harry, when we do get to him. Definitely, and goes back to that career, you know, and really is so, the thing that I loved about Harry, especially when we got to see them in their last incarnation, he doesn't fight her. Right. You know what I mean? Right.

Like they have a good kind of sharing of the power situation. Like he's in his lane, she's in her lane. She's like, the kids are going to do this. Yeah, and he's fine with that. Yeah. And then she says, I'm going to go back to work. and then she tells him that he doesn't contribute around the house. He's like,

which, listen. I know, but didn't he look upset? I think Evan might still be mad about that. No. I know. We're going to have Evan on the podcast. We'll ask him.

He was mad that day. I remember he was so mad. He seemed mad. Evan, I'm sure you're going to tell me if I'm right or run. Because at that point, I was so just focused on my acting that I couldn't even ask. I did want to ask.

I did think to myself, like, is Evan actually mad at me right now? I mean, it's possible he was just acting, right? But I had to focus so hard to get that. It was like a whole page monologue, right? So I couldn't really deal with his feelings right then. But I do remember thinking like, he really looks mad at me right now.

I wish I could have been to fly on the wall to experience that whole. Our world. That iconic. The world is really fun. Oh, my God. The world is really fun. But you were able to have that like type of success without social media. Well, thank God.

I think we were able to freeing. freeing and I think we wouldn't have had that success if we had social media because now social media everybody nitpicks everything all the time in real time it's too much and they need to pipe down yeah they need to pipe down and like people make things for them at least that's my current current thought thank you thank you so much welcome to my TED talk thank you so much absolutely All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved,

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And she can't drink water. It's pretty funny because she's afraid that she'll have to pee and then he'll be like pee on me. Do you mean? Like it's such a funny... She was like, no, no water thing. Right. It's a very, very well thought out, like situation where she can't drink water. And then he goes, oh, you know, I have an early campaign thing.

And then she realizes, oh, thank God, I don't have to spend the night with him. I can drink water. And she guzzles the water. That scene is so skillful on Sarah Jessica's part. Yeah. Because we know everything that she's thinking, but he doesn't, you know? And I really, really enjoyed it. And these are the little details that you forget that when you're re-watching.

Yeah. And you relate and you, it's so well executed. It was so like, you know, that was like a matter of survival right there. That was a survivor skill right there that I feel like, absolutely. that I feel like women have done. But also it's like such a weird, like weird circumstances happen in your mind, right? Where you're playing out what might happen

if you drink your water. And you're trying to avoid that. Just all the hoops you have to jump through. Yeah. Well, I mean, prime example. I mean, if we're going to talk about it. Let's talk about it. So back when I would date,

I remember like if I was going out with a guy that I thought was wanting to sleep with me, And I didn't want to sleep with him. Like, I just so happened to be in my period that day. And I would. Yes. And, I mean, I, like, like, reality, like, I'd bring tampons. I'd be excusing, like, go to the restroom, like, just to overly, like.

Wow. You would commit. I committed all the way. Wow. That's adorable. That's adorable. I have so many things going through my head right now, but I really feel like I shouldn't say them. No, if I said mine.

You did. You did. I mean, I remember, you know, obviously it would have been a long time ago that I would have been dating that way or whatever, right? But I remember that like, certainly if it was new, that was, you know, a situation or whatever. Yeah. And I was always trying to, you know, avoid sleeping with them too soon, right? But I don't think I would have lied about that because one of the things that used to really bug me was with if a man was really, really like ached out by your period yeah like that would really bother me

do you know what I'm saying yeah yeah so like I wouldn't want to be like oh I have my period I wouldn't have sex I wouldn't want to be that girl yeah what do you mean because I wanted them to be like it doesn't bother me that's how I would know that they were cool is that crazy it's not crazy because I know somebody that I wanted right right but I think that was like a like a proving ground right Hannah's dying this is so good Good, it's so true. But I mean, and I do think it would, I would have had to really like them to even want to broach anything like that, right? But it would have been like a little test, do you know what I'm saying?

It's a little test. Like, you know, are they going to be like, prissy about it? Yeah. Do you mean? Or they're like, yeah, you're not my guy. Right. Yeah. And then eventually when I help is someone.

This is about, this is about sweat. Okay. I'm going to switch topics. But I went out with an Australian. who I loved very much and he just thought it was great if you were sweaty I'd be like no I need to get in the shower I need to be like no

babe I love it I know and that is so attracted right isn't that so attractive does anyone know what I'm saying? Yes my husband right I love him yes I love him it's nice to be

accepted like that back to the episode back to the episode okay basically we've kind of covered the big topics but the thing that is adorable. Oh my God. And then the end, we have a picture

just to remind us of how the Carrie... To pee or not to pee. Yes, I love... So in the end, after slattery, so Carrie is going

through her different potential ways that she could work around not peeing on him and that she could run warm water while they're having sex or have tea,

like all these really adorable things. Sheet with her tussled hair. And it's her natural hair which is so gorgeous. just and then slattery you can't see him because he's in the shower and then he pulls back the shower curtain and he's kind of mean and he says well that I have to tell you something too you know this person in my campaign thinks that maybe it's not a good thing for me to be dating someone with a you know sex column during campaign his ass is peeing on people exactly exactly and she goes but but but what she's so polite about it she's like but but you you want to pee you want me to be on you and he goes well no one knows that cut to her typing, which is so enjoyable. Clips add to cart.

Exactly. And then it says, her headline of the column is to pee or not to pee. That is the question. It is the question. I love it so much. And I hadn't remembered any about that.

And she also makes a joke about the princess and the pee, which she had starred in when I met her and I saw her in it before we shot the pilot, which is pretty funny. And that's a joke in the show as well. That is so good. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's so good. I know. It's all connected, isn't it? All connected. And it's also relevant to today. It is so horribly relevant to today in a way. Isn't that so wild? Yeah, it's like kind of depressing, really. I mean, I don't think it's depressing to say like, okay, people want different things, you know, in sex. That's cool. And I do feel that Carrie is pretty understanding. Yeah. She's not shame him. Like she didn't shame him at all. Right? She tried to compromise and be like, I don't want to, but we could pretend. Right. Like she very sweetly tries to compromise. And then he's kind of like rude.

No, well, you write a sex column. Yeah. Like, ew. I know. And here she was trying to be. We should have a job. Totally. And at least I'm the toast of the town.

Yes. Thank you very much. And I can write a column about you. Yeah, exactly. But I also think it's interesting in so many ways. And I can't remember what happens after this. Of course, next week I'll get to see. But, oh, so you're waiting to watch each episode before.

I am. I am. Yes, because I don't remember all of them. I have my weird memories of filming them, but I don't really remember the storyline. That is so crazy. You're wearing green. I want to ask you about your Christmas album. Okay, so I have my album out.

I was not a Christmas person until I had my son. And, you know, I'm a millennial, so I get to see all the videos of how magical Christmas was back in the day. And so it was so magical, you know, like the malls and the fountains and all that stuff, you know. Everybody gets shopping. Like, nobody does that anymore, it feels like. But I just wanted to release a really cool, fun Christmas album that I just am so proud of. I recorded most of it in China. Amazing.

Wow. I love it. I do think that having children completely changes your viewpoint of the holidays and especially Christmas. Yeah. And everything. Yeah. My kids love the Christmas music. Yeah, love it so much.

It makes us so excited. And I'm just so excited that it's here. Yay. I wore green for the day. Yay. And it reminded me. It did its job. It reminded me.

Thank you. I'm so excited. I also feel like Christmas music and Christmas specials and everything. Yeah. It's such a great opportunity for someone like yourself who has a beautiful voice. Thank you. Because it's just another, it's like kind of an additional, almost like a cottage industry. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Which is wonderful. Right? One of the songs on my album is called Sugar Cookie. Oh. It was written with Kirsten from Panatonics. Cool.

I'm really, it's like one of my favorite songs on the album. And I hope everybody enjoys it. Amazing. You are so sweet to come and join us. Thank you for having me again. What a joy. Like, I have been just trying not to like stare at you. I'm just so, you're just so important.

And I'm just so. I'm not important. Yeah, you are. You're sweet. You're sweet. Yeah, sweet. You're so sweet. I'm just, this has been an honor to sit here.

You're so sweet and wonderful. You're a joy to come over here and join us in our little Brinwood studio. So easy and wonderful. We just been chatting. I know, it's great. You're so, so smart and fantastic. Thank you. You're welcome.

Can we watch this China show? So it's, it was online only, but you can see it. If you just look up the singer, you can see all the performances. Amazing. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. It was awesome. I'm so glad.

Like, I will be, um, I was just in China for tour in October. Wow. So, yeah, I did a tour out there. It was awesome. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I've only ever been to Shanghai and Beijing, which I feel definitely amazing.

Yeah. A little overwhelming. It's, it's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. They drive crazy out there. I did not even, yeah. I definitely didn't drive. Oh my God.

I mean, I didn't drive for the three months I was there, but I rode in the car. Yeah. I was just like, I, they drive, like, worse than New Yorkers. Wow, that's a lot. That's saying a lot. Yeah. And I mean, there's no rules on the road. Well, I do feel like, I also remember all the bikes. Yes.

Which is super impressive. No helmets. No helmets. They'll have their whole family on one bike. Right. And I'm just like, what is happening? I remember being in a very tall hotel in, I feel like it was in Shanghai. Yeah.

And I could look down and the morning, like the, everyone going to, work and just a huge section of bikes and then all the cars would come it was very cool though it's it's that was a lot like there's no personal space in oh no no there's definitely a difference in personal space yeah definitely definitely definitely definitely there's no line I forgot to say something it's so funny about the show this is what reminded me of it the reason that I went to Shanghai and Beijing is that I held a Motorola flip phone I got paid to go to Shanghai and Beijing It might have been. Yeah, it might have been.

I don't know. Because I remember that was something I noticed on the show where the razor foot phones. At first it was the little one that Carrie had, right? Yes. Well, she keeps because she didn't want to be like too into the phones. I have all kind of crazy phones. But in life also, people are always giving me phones.

I was always using the crazy phones. But did you notice in this episode, Carrie goes to a phone booth and uses it? Yes. So sweet. It's so great. But let me tell you, they smell. so bad now.

Yeah. I mean, there's still some left. I don't know if they work or not, but like, I don't know. What are people peop? Why there they're still there. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they're there and they smell terrible. I know, I have a cute book for my son.

It's called The Last Phone Booth. And it's about the last phone booth in Manhattan. Oh, my God. And how everyone leaves it for their cell phones and it watches all the people walk by and they don't use it anymore. But then one day the cell service goes out. And then there's a big line to use the old magic. Yeah.

phone booth. It's a good book. Remember that movie phone booth? Yes, with Colin. I remember every Colin Farrell movie, the big Colin fan. I went and saw that in the theater. I haven't seen that in theaters either, but I love anything with Colin in it. It was so good.

My daughter's very perplexed by the penguin. She's never seen the penguin, but we see the ads all around town. And she's like, but does he look like that? I'm like, no. He's very, very handsome. Very handsome, Colin. And she said, but how does he look like that for that? show, and I said hours and hours

of prosthetics. It's impressive, right? That is so wild. I know it. Mickey. Yes. Are you a Charlotte? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I'm a great answer. I curse the day you were born. Excellent. Excellent that you're ready

with that one. Yeah. Excellent. Did you ever feel like maybe I'm a Charlotte, maybe I'm a Carrie? I saw, I felt I was in between Charlotte and Carrie. That's how I feel too. Like, I definitely the moral thing that Charlotte had. She had such a... Her moral compass was the most innocent of moral.

But then, you know, I could... I've broken some hearts like Carrie. I bet you have. Yeah. Yeah. Good for you. I kept choosing my Mr. Big. Did you?

I did. I had a Mr. Big. But he was Mr. Little because he wasn't big. He was little, but he had that vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I don't know anyone who hasn't really. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe there's someone. I don't know, Hannah. Did you have a Mr. Big? Okay, great. Wow. Good for you. Thank God. Yeah. I don't think Easton is a Mr. Big. Oh, why? Hey. Hey. Yeah. He's so funny. Well, thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being here. I'm a Charlotte. Yay, yay, yay. Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless, Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcast from smartless media,

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