Are You A Charlotte? - U Got The Look… More with Molly Rogers

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

You can blame "Harry" and "Steve" for making the costume designer's job more challenging. Find out why they made it so hard to dress Charlotte and Miranda. Molly Rogers is back to let us in on the secrets of the costume closet. Is fashion worth the pain? Kristin reveals a bloody injury caused by her wardrobe and how it almost ruined the outfit and the scene. Find out the cover up! Plus, an update on the naked dress! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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voices Jaiquel and many others. So hang on because it's going to be a fun ride. Cue the music! Listen to Potter Rebellion on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis and I I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Molly Rogers is back for part two. Welcome back, Molly. Michael brought up the Dior, the huge, huge dress that we brought back in and dressed like that. Was it Dior? Versace, the mille fleur?

Yeah, the mille fleur. Yeah, yeah, Versace, yeah. Versace, got it. Was it Dior? Versace, the Mille Fleur. Yeah, the Mille Fleur. Yeah, yeah, Versace, yeah. Versace, got it. How did it happen? There was a big, vogue spread. I think it was called Alice in Wonderland. And there were dresses in that.

And I believe that was one of them, that gown. And Pat was like, call this in for me I want to see them and actually cull in all the gowns in that shoot. Wow. And I have fitting photos of Sarah Jessica on the dirty fitting room floor pretending like she's asleep in each of those gowns. Wow. We need those pictures, Molly. The rejects are really some of the best outfits on all of you. Oh, the rejects. The things that didn't make it.

Reason, whatever. And you know, I have the picture way back for season one, probably you'll remember, and you've got a tennis outfit on. And then you just play tennis in it just like that. I know, which is crazy, right? And also, I just watched the episode where I have a little fling with this Hasidic Jewish artist named Shmuel.

What foreshadowing to Harry? Do you, yeah. city Jewish artist named Shmuel. What? Foreshadowing? To Harry? Do you, yeah, do you know that actor that played that guy? I vaguely remember there's some story, right? What is it? Yeah, I worked with him on a cop show one year. He's adorable. He's in The Joker.

What's his name? Slices his neck. What? Yeah. He told me when I met, when, uh, what's his name? Slices his neck. What? Yeah. He told me when I met, when he said, he said, I want you to know, you worked on Sex and the City? And I said, yes. He said, I want you to know that I played the Hasidim with Charlotte. And I said, you're kidding. And he is like, and guess what? It was my first acting job. Adorable. I love to hear that. Isn't that he's such an incredible actor.

Wow. I remember being very into that. I mean, I would not have said that at the time. I'm sure I was trying to hide it. But when I look back at it, I'm like, what's going on with me there? And I remember he was very present, you know, like in a way that a lot of the guys weren't, especially in the beginning when no one knew what the show was, right?

Like I think for the guys, and I haven't talked about this that much, but the guys kind of had to play like a girlfriend part. They weren't really used to it. You need to get into that. Don't I? Don't I? I don't know if I should have a guy on and try to talk to him about it. Is that weird, Molly?

No, I think, you know, they all were, it was role reversal. It really was. And it threw them. Sometimes they were just like, deer in the headlights, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I have another episode, it hasn't come on yet,

but I remember this and I'm trying to get Nicole Halofson, her to come on. She's not come on yet. I don't know why, but I'm gonna pursue her, okay? Get her. But I think it was one that she directed and I have a guy and you have how Michael and Melthi and Darren would cast these like very good looking,

like there was a type in the beginning, do you know what I'm saying? Their type. Right, their type, exactly. And this guy comes in, very handsome guy, and I'm supposed to be, I don't know if I'm picking him up at a bar or flirting with him at a bar,

or if we're meeting at a bar, but we're at a bar, and he's supposed to say to me, you're so hot. So we're at this rehearsal, and you know, people didn't know the show, right? It's first or second season, didn't really know the show. And numerous different actors who came in would say, like, well, I'm not going to say these lines, am I? And we'd be like, uh, yes, you are.

You know, uh, we take this seriously. Like, you are going to say those lines. So I'm sitting there, and he's like, I'm not going to say. I'm not going to tell her she's hot. And I'm like, oh, god. Uh, you know, me and secure me. I'm like, oh, god, he and secure me I'm like oh god he doesn't think I'm hot you know but also like what woman would come on to a show

and say that no woman would come on to a show and be like I'm not gonna say that that guy is hot no one would do that that is a fascinating story and you need to go scratch okay well but I don't I don't know that actor's name and I feel bad even talking about it. It's going to be some wacko headline, but it was true. It happened. You know, it did happen. I don't want to make him feel bad, but you know, he was like, I'm not going to say that to her.

And I was like, oh God. And then I remember Nicole going like, well, you really need to just say it to her. Just throw it off. Just, you know, just throw it off. Like second, you know, like, like, you know, nothing. I don't want to watch that again. Oh, well, see, this is the joy of rewatching, right? Like so much comes back to you.

It's quite amazing. You should come back on and rewatch with me, babe. It's really fun to watch reruns. It is. I never had watched them. I hadn't either. Right? And they're on. I have a couple of times and it's, it's, holds up. It does.

It's so interesting to look at. I know and we're so young. My God, we're so young. But also the thing that I enjoy about it, it moves so quickly and it's over so quickly. Yeah. How do we fit it all in? I know it's like bam bam bam bam bam. so quickly. Yeah. How do we fit it all in? I know, it's like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And I mean, at the point that I am in the first season,

we don't even really have it structured in the way that it became structured where her voiceover would tie in to, you know, meanwhile, Downtown, Charlotte was doing blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and Uptown, Miranda was doing blah, blah, blah. You, and uptown, Miranda was doing blah, blah, blah. You know, we're not even there yet, right? It's still very hodgepodge, and Sarah Jessica is still having to talk to the camera sometimes.

Wow. Which you know she's just dying inside, you know. Oh my gosh. Can you remember that? Are you going to watch every single season? Apparently I am, Molly. Fantastic. Sometimes I lay in bed and I'm like, oh my god, 98 episodes, I'm going to watch 98 episodes. That is so much to talk about.

I know, it is so much to talk about and I really need you guys to come on and help me, okay? We will. Thank you, baby. There's a whole many of people that have memories. I know, everyone has memories, which is a joy. And I'm gonna look at this list now because obviously I could just roll with you and talk about anything.

But okay, look, this is a good question just off the top. Was there a lot of experimenting? Because I remember some experimenting you guys tried to do on me that I was like, no. Oh yeah, I think that for some reason, that for some reason you, Pat, you know, Pat just had this Petty Page vision of Charlotte interpreted, Betty Page interpreted into the Upper East Side, right? That was her head. And she just wanted you so much in wiggle skirts. Oh, my gosh.

I'd hope this doesn't trigger you. It's okay. But she wanted a clip-on bang on you so bad. She wanted it bad you guys. Pat wanted me to have the mini micro bang so badly that she took my head shot because you know when you you're doing a tv show you have everyone's picture up on the board, right? Like their headshots back in the olden days, that's what we called it. And she drew in a mini bang. And then not only that, so she wanted me to have a mini bang, but she also wanted me to have a roll like in the 40s, because sometimes when I was doing my hair, we would pin it up like temporarily, okay, in the trailer.

There's a view like that. Right, she wanted me to wear that like in the show. Yeah. She's so adorable. But what I remember is like for me, I was stressing over my idea, which was kind of very classic, uppery side, long straight hair,

very Ralph Lauren, you know, very... Park Avenue. Park Avenue, stereotypical Park Avenue. Right. Not interesting Park Avenue, just very like, if you walked into the Ralph Lauren store and just bought head to toe Ralph Lauren, right? Yeah, and the person that would also go

and look at China at Burgdorf's. Exactly, and just happens to be an art girl, so maybe there could be some, you know, something more structured than that, but not necessarily, you know, some of the things that Fat wanted. So I remember one time, and I don't remember why it could have been the Hamptons episode that's coming when I have to pretend that I'm younger or whatever. But do you remember she tried to get me in a cone bra? I watched that the other day.

No way. Oh my gosh. So funny. Do you remember the cone bra she tried to get me to wear? And again, this was like a Madonna heyday type moment. It was from the store, I believe. I mean, I remember going to the store and having a fitting at some point. And there was like a very tight, tight, tight tube skirt,

which I was like, I can't do it, Pat, I can't pull it off. This is what you guys had to put up with me, for a while, right, as you know, thinking like, I can't wear that. And then, and Pat being like, why not? And then there was a like tool, it had like little ruffles of tool on it, like, and then like a cone bra.

And I was like, that is so wild. I know. I love it too, but I said no. I mean, it was just more photo shoot-ish or something. Right. It was more editorial. It was editorial, yes. Which her, you know, she just had a bigger view

of everything, you know, which just had a bigger view of everything, you know, which God love her for it, right? But for me as an actor, as a character, as, you know, trying to play this character, sometimes I just felt like I couldn't handle it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. But then I feel like we found it. It just took us some time to find the middle ground of that. Agreed. Agreed. When the two of you, you know, it just took us some time to find the middle ground of that. Agreed, agreed. When the two of you, you know, it's you, she had her bang, you had this other idea, and you guys came together and... Yeah, absolutely.

It's amazing archetype of a person, Charlotte. Absolutely, absolutely. And thank goodness she wasn't, you know, as kind of pigeonholed as I wanted her to be. And isn't it great to work with people that have strong opinions and aren't wishy-washy or they're not 20 cooks in the kitchen? Like somebody is, this is how it is. Definitely. Let's debate it. Definitely. But I think that's the thing about our show and you know, it's hard to really describe to other people. But you know, when I have gone on to other projects or other shows and maybe people aren't

around all the time or they're, you know, they just kind of like, well, this is just my area. I'm just going to do my area. Like, that's not how you make something good. No. And when are you, I mean, I'll speak for myself It's rare that you get to experiment or have the luxury of findings your way in something now It's true. It is rare But I think that's our whole mo like in terms of just the show in general the fact that they let us find our way

You know, like- Absolutely. You know, we didn't know. The heyday of HBO. Look who's here. I know. I know, we're so lucky. I know. Fist tapers, so good.

So good. Do you remember that time, you guys dressed me and I can't remember what I was doing. I was wearing a vintage thing that also involved lace and we got, I think the only note that I ever remember getting from HBO about my clothes, they said, do not put Charlotte in vintage. Do you remember this?

Because it was a little bit grandma-ish vintage, they thought. Was it white eyelet or something that maybe? It was something like that. I feel like it was black lace. It was black lace over white. Yeah, and they didn't get it. And also I think that what happened was it wasn't tight enough.

Oh. So it looked fluffy. You know what I'm saying? Like dowdy-ish, grandma-y vintage. And so they didn't necessarily understand. They were like, no vintage. And you guys were like, what? You know, how dare you?

I broke that lace down getting a note. It was a little tiny moment. I don't think it lasted, you know, but also the other thing was that they didn't, I don't think they probably realized that Sarah's fur coat was, like there were so many vintage things that you had from the get-go. Oh my God, and that we could afford, which you can barely afford vintage now. I know. Everything's changed in a great way, in a good way, in a sad way,

in a whatever. It's so true. It's so, so true. Last Culture East us with Matt Rogers and Boeing Yang. Just one podcast of the year at this year's I Heart Podcast Awards. Lady Gaga will take home the innovator award at Monday's iHeartRadio Music Awards. Now these iHeart award winners are teaming up on a brand new episode of Las Culturistas. Thank you so much for having me here, but please, please, please don't make me get angry about anything in public! Just open the free iHeartRadio app, search Las Culturistas, and listen now. Love at first swipe?

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Or we're even judging people by balloon pops. But what really makes a relationship blast? love through walls or even judging people by balloon pops. But what really makes a relationship last? On this episode of Dope Labs, poet, author, and relationship expert, Young Pueblo breaks down the psychology and biology of loving better. And he provides eye-opening insights and advice that we all need. It's a big realization moment that you should not be postponing your happiness. Like your greatest happiness is not necessarily going to like come from a relationship.

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Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who did you enjoy dressing the most, Molly? Now, that is, no one in their right mind is going to choose their favorite child. See that's why I didn't ask her. That's why I didn't ask her.

But okay, so let's just go over a little bit. Vague, vague notes for all of us. Judy Meem. Okay. Well, you know, I have the receipts. I can look through photos and I can remember, you know, some of the, you know, mind-numbing things fitting Cynthia Nixon when she was actually pregnant and fitting her when she was show pregnant.

Right. Those moments that, you know, pregnancies on shows are really, really tough. Aren't they? You remember the little things like I don't know what they do now, but I remember it. The thing that everybody just said you had to use was bird seed for the boobs. Which makes no sense. I don't really understand.

I'm so dinosaur-y now. Yeah, like why? Why would they say that? It's so interesting. Do you remember when I... Charlotte gets pregnant and we got the fake belly and I had a belly button and Michael Patrick was like, no, that's disgusting. That is one of my favorite Charlotte outfits with Big saying... The Dior.

Yeah. The Dior. Yeah. The Dior was good. Someone just brought that up on an Instagram post the other day and it was good. It was vintage Dior from their archives, I believe. Really? Yeah, because it wasn't current and it wasn't my size, you know, because it had to be pregnant. And the thing that I remember about that, I think that was my first day on the, that's the first movie, right?

The first movie. Yeah. Must movie, right? The first movie. Must be, right? And I, you know how my ears, you know, my allergy to certain metals, my ears had closed up and I didn't realize it. So I'm in the hair and makeup trailer. I'm behind, of course, cause it's our first day and there's this massive crowd up outside, you know,

and I'm so stressed about the crowd. And I'm thinking to myself, does Michael Patrick realize that he has my very first scene outside with, like, you know, the pregnancy? Does he remember that, you know... That this is happening? Yeah. And like, do you remember there were people there from the magazines with, like, their tape recorders

and, like, writing notes? And Chris and I walk over there thinking they they're fans and they're like asking us questions and we're like, oh God, oh God, we've got to leave, we've got to leave. Exactly, run, run, someone help us. But I'm in the hair and makeup trailer. They're trying to get me ready, you know, they're like, they're ready for you, ready for you, and you're stressing and I realize I don't have my Van Cleef and our Pell earrings in, they're supposed to go with my outfit and I have to re-pierce this ear myself and blood drips

onto the white vintage Dior silk and I'm dying, okay? Can I tell you my ear is still messed up from that. My ear has never recovered. Oh my gosh, that was a true sacrifice. There was bloodshed. There was bloodshed onto the Dior, which of course I'm mortified. I'm like, oh my God, there's blood on the Dior. Do you see it in the scene or somebody got it? I don't think so. I don't think so. Oh, I'm sure you guys were on top of me.

I'm sure I called you like, help me, I got blood on the Dior. That's such a good insider story. I know. I might've had the bags on that shoulder. I might've put the bags on that shoulder. I might've put the bags on that shoulder just so that you didn't see the blood on the Dior. I'm sure you did some cute little trick like that.

I tried, I wish we had kept that cause it was just, oh, what a fantastic, I mean, you guys have done, when you think about everything that you guys have done, just for us, obviously you have other careers, but I mean, jobs, other jobs in your career. If you think about everything that you guys have done just for us. Obviously you have other careers, but I mean, jobs, other jobs in your career. If you think about everything that you have done, do you feel proud?

I just am so speechless when I think of how fortunate. And oftentimes I think about, and what we accomplished in everything and how amazing it was to go to a couture show and you know that HBO sent us several several times that is unheard of. I don't care but you know I think about what it would be like if it hadn't been the four of you. Just like I often think about, what if it wasn't Seymour? You know, who, what, this casting, it's just all so aligned. It's very witchy.

It is witchy because there's no, there was not a lot of, you know, we'd never read together. You know, we didn't really know each other. It's just magic that it, that it worked. But again, my feeling is, first of all, yes, kids met some kind of like magic came together, but also I feel also that the important parts of it that I think about are the collaboration, the willingness to come in with these very strong personalities, Darren, Michael, Pat, Sarah.

Yeah, everyone had extremely strong thoughts and opinions and instincts, right? But it was never, you were not in trouble for having that. You were more in trouble if you didn't have that. You know what I'm saying? That's true. Right? And I think that's an amazing kind of specialness

of our show. And I think that when you and I reminisce, sometimes in your trailer when you have a down moment, which is never, and talk about fights or major drama situations on the show, those were as good to talk, they're as good to think about in hindsight as the highest thing. Absolutely. I think that's part of the reason for the success is because at the moment. Yeah. It's frightening. Right. At the moment, it's kind of tiring. You can wear yourself out with the dramas, but the dramas happen because everyone felt so strongly. You know, yeah, the passion of it. Yeah. Back now, you're like, okay, that was horrible when I was getting

screamed at in front of the crew. But now I find it fascinating. Let's dissect it and talk about it. Definitely, definitely. And I feel like also, it's the thing of like, you know, everyone involved was so incredibly smart about their own area. Like I was just looking at the credits for this 106 and I thought about Jeremy Conway. Remember Jeremy? I do, who went on to do the Olympics. The Olympics, I know because he's brilliant. Like our show would not still exist

and look like it does if Jeremy hadn't been our production designer. You know, he was just super, super brilliant and cared about all the little details and would come talk to me. I remember even back, I mean, we had no, you remember in the beginning, we had no producer credit whatsoever, but I remember everyone would include us, you know, with the exception occasionally of directors, which then we would have to go above their heads. But if they didn't understand that we were an integral part

of the decision-making process, and we're just so lucky. With the title, but you were. We were. And that's so special and unique, you know, to have for actors, much less actresses, right? To be thought of like, oh, this person is an integral part of this production, and she has a say in how her house looks,

how her apartment looks, how her clothes look, what art would she have, what art wouldn't she have? It was so collaborative. I remember Sarah Jessica with Sabrina Wright, who was like five generation prompts, picking out what magazines would be on that table in that apartment. That's right, like that level of detail.

I remember me sending Sabrina what wedding rings I wanted. Oh, wow. And making her get them from Kathy Waterman, who happened to be in Los Angeles. Do you remember that? Yes, I do. Ha ha! Is there anything that you,

because we reminisce and you're watching the older episode, do you have a memento that you framed at home? I don't have a memento that I framed. Is there anything that you have that is sacred and that, you know, I know SJ has something framed. What does she have framed? It's some kind of poem. Oh, that's nice.

I don't think I knew that. I should ask her about that. What do you have framed? Okay, this won't get us in trouble. Okay. You know, talking about passionate moments, there's a moment, you know, when people do not want you to wear something

or anyone to wear something and it will ruin their dialogue or it will take away from the scene. They can go wild in the office to try to tell you their point. This is why she should not wear this. I have a torn picture of you guys. It's torn from Michael Patrick King. They're never wearing this. Oh my gosh. And I showed it to him one time

and he just thought it was so funny that I kept. And what were we wearing and did we ever wear it? No, it's not gonna get us in trouble. No, it's a funny, passionate, like never. Did we wear it? Who won that argument? Yeah. Yeah. No, he brought up in when I talked to him, he brought up that he had said no to the Versace Milful. Yeah, that he had initially said no and

that then he had really learned like no no because his thing was well why would she be wearing it? Right? Because you know how he's literal because he's writing, right? Like it's a different job. And then he says, you know, it really taught me that you don't always have to have a reason, you know, that it's going to be amazing. Incredible. Right? I never knew that. That's such a good behind the scenes.

I never knew that he was like anti that. I think he was anti that for in the hotel room. Like how would she have gotten it there? You know, like practical right? He's very good. I remember Pat explaining why she borrowed it when she was there, right? Why is in her closet and where she keeps it? I we have no idea right? Right exactly Right. I think it's in a box. Doesn't she get it back out of a box when she needs it? Yeah, you have to kind of stretch your imagination there. Right, but that's okay, because it was part of what our show,

like it was like the, you know, the building blocks of our show, I feel like. The DNA of it. And I love that about him. And all of you too, as producers, that that you if you consider something and you're against it and then you've slept on it and you've changed your mind and you correct it you will you correct yourselves you're not you're like I thought about that wrong and I think you're right but I'm not gonna wear that bang pat well I think some of that is from the history too,

like in the beginning, because when I look back on these early episodes, to me, I seem like a floppy puppy or like a little child or something. Like I look so young and I seem so, like out of my element almost, you know, like the rest of them seem so sophisticated. And I feel like I'm almost, you know, like the rest of them seem so sophisticated and I feel like I'm like, you know, but I remember,

I just remember that like, and I'm also wearing weird clothes. Like, like I think I went shopping. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. This is before I have- I think their clothes are weird. I see them. Right?

What are they? I tell you, we, that's where we went. We... They're Bloomingdale's? I think they're either Bloomingdale's or that I went somewhere and bought something and was like, hey, can I wear this? You know? Which I think is why Darren then took me to dinner to say, listen, you have to let Pat dress you because she can dress you better than you can. And I was like, OK, I'm sure she can. I just need to understand what we're doing and that I can do it. I needed so much confidence, like, built up in me that I could actually wear the things that I perceived as being what people in Vogue wore. Like, I just had trouble making that leap myself, you know? So it took some time. And it took some time for Pat and

I to find our way to each other in terms of like, you know, she was trying to accentuate the part of my body that I've been trying to hide, which was my hips and my butt. But at the same time, she sometimes would, you know, kind of slightly criticize them. So it was very confusing to me, as you know, because you were there. That's not an easy thing to do in front of a dressing room mirror. You know what I mean? When you're comfortable and we all have those parts of us

that we're like, no, I'm camouflaging that. This, whatever. Stop. Yeah. Stop. Yeah, it's interesting that you had a journey. Oh my God. A big time. Such a journey, such a journey. And my God. A big time.

Such a journey, such a journey. And it continues, doesn't it? You know, maybe that's what is weird a little bit about your clothes. Maybe they're in the early, early days. They've got that little touch of West Coast. You know, like- Definitely. You needed to be sophisticated.

You were in Manhattan. Definitely. And I to be sophisticated. You were in Manhattan. Definitely. And I definitely, I mean, I just see that there's some kind of lack of clarity. And also, I think also what you're reminding me of is that we didn't have the budget. We didn't have the ability to borrow. So we haven't gotten there yet.

But also, I don't even know what I would have wanted. Like the first time that I remember feeling great, and I don't know what episode this is, is when I was wearing this black dress with the, you know, it's got like panels down it. Oh, you know what else I love? And I also don't know if this first or second season, do you remember that time at the gallery

where Willie's there and all of us are there, and Pat convinced me to have a high pony with a hair piece so it's really long ponytail. And she put me in diamond hoop earrings, which literally I never wear. Oh, I want to see this so bad. And I feel like I might have a turtleneck kind of a sheath on, you know, like some kind of pretty sophisticated thing

for me, for Charlotte. That sounds very gallery. It was very gallery and I feel like I might even have a red lip on. All kind of shocking elements, right? I'm spinning. But it's good, it's good. And I remember moments like that early on where things came together. And I think for me, and I'm sure she was probably just cursing me right at this point.

But like for me, I just'm sure she was probably just cursing me right at this point But like for me I just had to find my way to it like who is this woman because as we've discussed with Michael and everybody else Really nobody knew who Charlotte was in the beginning, which is why they tried to demote me You know to recurring or whatever and thank goodness. I didn't let them know that oh Baby, you gotta listen to the podcast. No, I will I've been catching snaps and snippets because I love these stories. I know, because no one knows all the stories. That's the fun. That's the fun part.

And because you haven't seen them in such a while is also a great thing. Oh yeah. Oh, I haven't seen them in 20 something, 25 years. Because for me, like if they were on E, which was the first time they got syndicated, I feel like, you know, it was like, first of all, it was toned down because they'd edited so much out. And second of all, it was living in the past. And I felt like, well, I don't want to live in the past.

I want to live now. Because partly we were still doing the show when we were doing the movies and, you know, doing other things, obviously. And now, because it is so incredibly long ago, it's amazing to watch it. But it is a little bit like therapy, I have to say. Like it is a little bit like, wow, like I need to really think about my own journey. Right, like that is a lot of chronicling, you know, of a journey for sure. But I love it and I love that we can all be on record together about our experience. Yeah. Last Cultureista with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, just one podcast of the year at this

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The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. Leave the Gun, Take the Canole is based on my co-host Mark's best-selling book of the same title. And on this show, we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the godfather's birth from start to finish. This is really the first interview I've done in bed. Ha ha ha ha! We sift through innumerable accounts. I see 35 pages in real life.

Many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages. And try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said, we're finished. This is over. They know it's not gonna work. You gotta get rid of those guys. This is a disaster.

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I'm trying. We're not all the way there yet, but having you has been amazing. I was like, we got to get Molly, we got to get Molly. Thank you so much. And you said when you texted me, we won't have any problem finding something to talk about. As we never do, as we never do.

Okay, Molly Rogers, thank you for joining us. I love you so much. Thank you for having me. It was so much fun. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. Hey, how do you feel about actually rewatching? Yeah. Cool. I mean we don't have to do it live together but like you can watch and then let's write about our thoughts or what we remember. Hilarious. Oh my god! I forgot to ask you about something so important. I'm gonna take my glasses off for this. I got to ask her about the naked dress. The naked dress.

Do I know the answer? What about it? The naked dress was the dress that she wears in the show and the dress that ends up on the bus. Do you remember the bus? It's the billboard that is on the bus and someone draws graffiti of a personal part and yes and it's in the in the um she's wearing the tutu when she sees the bus obviously

in the opening credits but in the show it's a story point she's doing a photo shoot for her column and she's wearing this dky and or donna k proper, I'm not sure which, is a nude color dress. It's very 90s and she comes, she shows that we're all there for moral support, it's her first date with Big. And she comes out and I'm like, oh, like you can tell, Charlotte's like somewhat mortified that this is what she's wearing. And Miranda says, it's tits on toast.

Which is really funny. And she's like, is it too much? And Samantha's like, it's fabulous, darling. And then she wears it and she walks out and sees Big on the street with a fur coat. And he goes, interesting dress. And she goes, meaning? And he says, interesting dress. And I'm, meaning? And he says, interesting dress. And I'm just like, what a jerk.

Like sometimes I look back on Beg and I'm like, wow. Yeah. He's kind of a jerk. Yeah. But he's got some lines. I mean, right? Gosh, then they get in the car and they make out because it's like this naked dress.

And I guess she felt like what interesting dress is a compliment or whatever. I don't know. But do you remember this dress? I do. And I want to remind you and you'll go, oh yeah, that's right. First of all, it's in her storage

cause I touched it last year. No way. It's in tissue. And I was like, what? Wow. It has plastic string, not like a plastic like a whatever plastic bra strap where you're trying to hide you know that it's it's a little fishing wire. Wow. Now here is the original continuity photo you

remember when we did Polaroids and wrote it all by hand? Oh my God. Will you send that to me? I will. It says dress and Pat describes it naked. G-string, beige, Cose Bella. Oh yeah, that's all we wore. Manolo beige, actors own, A-up.

Purse, snake skin, blonde, actors own. Coat, vintage fur, earrings, studs. Wow. Adorable. And somebody took a picture of her on set. Yeah. I guess they went on a date, I don't know. Yeah, no, they have a whole, she's in the apartment with us

then she goes out onto the street, then they're in the cab. Then they're- That dress looks like this, it's this big. It's like a notepad. I mean, it is interestingly naked in terms of what's going on up top. I hadn't really remembered all of it. I was like, wow, it's quite something.

It's bold. It's in storage. It's in tissue, yeah. That's amazing. I cannot wait till she has the retrospective show in the future. It's going to be quite something. I've got a lot of great pictures she can have of you

for that show show for sure. Really? I do. Yes, you do. Send them to me. Send them to me. Take pictures of the pictures and send them to me. I might send you the most shocking one I have in a fitting.

And you will not believe what you actually tried on. You'll lay down and take an Alka-Seltzer. Yeah. I need to see it. I need to see it. I need to see it. One of my favorite, favorite, I have a stack of photos myself of when we're trying to find the Vera Wang wedding dress for the Kyle wedding, the Trey wedding. And we went to Vera Wang a few times.

You remember this? I mean, we must have put on 30 dresses and we took polaroids of all of them because we had to get everybody to agree, which was so difficult, do you remember? And there's one where Pat is literally under my skirt. She's completely hidden. Her little feet are peeking out. She's doing something under there

and I'm just standing there because it was so normal. And it's really cute. I remember that like it was yesterday. Me too. I remember being at Badgley Mishka. That was for the second, that's for the Harry wedding. I have a lot of those fitting photos of those. Yay, I don't have those.

Let's share our photos, Molly. I will, okay. Mwah! Love you. I'll see you soon, love you, bye. ["The Last Cultureista"] Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Video Music Awards. Now, these iHeart Award winners are teaming up on a brand new episode of Las Culturistas. Thank you so much for having me here, but please, please, please don't make me get angry about anything in public. Just open the free iHeart Radio app, search Las Culturistas, and listen now. Love at first swipe? I highly doubt it. Reality TV and social media have love all wrong.

So what really makes relationships last? On this episode of Dope Labs, poet and relationship expert Young Pueblo breaks down the psychology of love and provides eye-opening insights and advice we all need. It's a big realization moment that you should not be postponing your happiness. Like your greatest happiness is not necessarily going to like come from a relationship. Your partner, they should add to your happiness,

but your happiness is really coming from within you. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Emi Olaya, host of the podcast, Crumbs. For years, I had to rely on other people to tell me my story. And what I heard wasn't good. You really f***ed last night. It felt like I lived most of my life in a blackout. I was trapped in addiction.

You had to grab the lamp and smashed it against the walls. And then I decided I wanted to tell my own story. Listen to Krumz on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seale. And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture.

This podcast is based on my co-host Mark Seale's best-selling book of the same title. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Cobola, Robert Evans, James Kahn, Talia Shire, and many others. Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Canole on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.