Are You A Charlotte? - Up and Coming with Mireille Enos (S2 E15 "Shortcomings")

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

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But it is fun. One of the things that, which is so obvious, obviously, but I'm just going to name it, one of the things that is joyful about rewatching this is that because we all know things that happen, you can go back, but we all have this vocabulary. Yes. Which is kind of amazing. Amazing. And, you know, due to our writers, writers are so important.

Yes. Oh, my goodness. writers are everything. If it's not there on the page, there's nothing you can do. I know. I mean, in the beginning of the show, Charlotte wasn't really on the page. And I really stressed, you know, quietly because I didn't want to complain. Sure.

Right? I would just be like, oh, what am I doing? Right? And you're trying to bring so much. You're trying to bring subtext to like nothing that's really there. And then luckily as it went, because also we were based on a column and a paper that was about gossip in New York, right? So, like, all of them had to be kind of fleshed out and deepened out. And obviously, Carrie changed in her own way from the true Candace Bushnell.

Yes, of course. They deviated pretty significantly. But I think for Charlotte, you know, until we kind of added some of our writers and Jenny had grown up on the Upper East Side and kind of knew that life. And Michael Patrick took some time, like he said to me when he came on the show, which was first season, Darren Brutem onto write, he said, I looked at your character. And I was like, I don't know what to write for her. And then over time, of course, it came to him and he saw me and her and the world.

And, you know, thank God. Thank God it came to him. But it is interesting to look back sometimes. And I also think for myself and you were younger than me, but the vibe still in the 90s in New York was that not necessarily like the Charlotte version of like married with children. Right. But like you were looking to get coupled up. It wasn't necessarily. Yeah.

clear yet that this kind of growing contingency of single women were going to be like a power move or whatever. I don't know how to put it. But you know like at a certain point in the 2000s there would be like at one point they put the four of us on the cover of Time magazine and they wrote Who Needs a Husband? Wow. I have it hanging in my closet. Wow. It makes me laugh. That's amazing. I know and remember Ali McBeal

Yes. Like there were a lot of kind of conversation around that because the assumption before those conversations started was that is the goal even if you also work or whatever like at some point you're going to lay down your career yeah to do husband children yeah all those other things yeah it's so interesting to think about but i see it in so many weird details when you look back at the shows like miranda i never thought of her but the episode a couple of episodes ago was the chicken dance where there's a wedding of her interior designer meets this guy that she has coming from London to visit

it's a long story she has hopes for the guy but then they fall in love at first sight and get married and she reads the poem Carrie reads the poem and cries because Big gets up and doesn't listen to her poem it's very loaded it's such a loaded and then the best part for me

is at the end we're all standing there we've gone through a whole drama at this wedding and they throw the bouquet and it lands at our feet and we're like okay bye none of you pick it up oh that's awesome I know it's so great

but it's so fun wanting to think that that was like new or whatever. Yes, that was a new idea, yeah. Fascinating. Okay, back to the episode. Here we go. Oh, yes, Rogers used for Roger. And then, oh, here we go with the Jason Thoreau.

Yes, the Jason storyline. Oh, my gosh. First of all, he's just so adorable and talented. So cute. God. Oh, so funny and wonderful. I mean, so funny and wonderful. And, like, just to watch his career, another one where, like, you know, I mean, I don't know in his career what he's done. before or how we knew him, but he was definitely, Sarah knew him, I believe, and I think that

what had happened with this episode was that they were hoping she would get Matthew. Because couldn't you see Matthew in that part? For sure. Right. I mean, yes. And I think that Matthew was like, no. No. And I think even Sarah was like, yeah, it seems weird.

Yeah, it's a little weird. Like they don't, I mean, they did Plaza Suite together, which is amazing. For sure. But just like a one-off and particularly. what this storyline is. No. That would be so uncomfortable. Yeah. And just I think distracting for the audience too. Absolutely. They would spend all those scenes being like, oh, they're actually married.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know. Yes. So I think we were like, hey, Justin, come back and just cut your hair and put in some glasses. So we meet Justin. They're adorable. They're both writers. They met at a pen luncheon, which I love. And then she gives him advice about, you know, what he should or shouldn't wear. she says never go sleeve list he's going to do a GQ shoot because she says no one ever gets nominated for a Pulitzer after they've gone taking their shirt off yeah too funny but then later on he takes his shirt off and it's great so thank God but that's not at the photo shoot um so then we go we meet the family and this is kind of the background of the theme of the story which is are you dating the

person or the family family do you feel more strongly about the family than the person because you can tell once they get there. Not that she doesn't seem into him. She does. She does. But the family is really something. Yeah. They really are. And they're so kind of quintessentially New York. The dad is a professor at Columbia. The mom is a writer. Documentarian. Documentarian. Who reads, Carrie's column tells her she's an icon, which kind of cracked me up because it's Valerie Harper saying it. I mean, I was like, wow, I don't remember any of this. This is amazing. And they have these kids and there's a lot of good food in New York and conversation.

banter. Right. It's awesome. And you can tell the Carrie loves it. Oh, and the girls are named Franie and Zoe. Yes. Which is hysterical. Oh, my God.

It's so funny, so funny. So then Carrie is obviously very seduced by that life, by the lifestyle and the kind of thoughtful, you know, conversation and characters and whatnot. Now we're back. We're at the park. We discussed the hitting on the head of the child, which is so crazy. crazy about the divorce. Oh, now we're at my house.

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So here I am with my brother. My poor brother, who we're never going to see ever again, is so crazy to watch. But it's funny because I also felt like, like there's like a weird vibe between me. and the brother. Do you know? Yeah. Like, it doesn't seem that comfortable. Like, I'm kind of cheerful and trying to cheer him up, but it doesn't seem like we're super close. You actually, yeah, have a real relationship. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's like, you don't even know. You know, he's kind of like mad and like, you don't even know. And I'm like, oh. Yeah. And then I love that I do try to give me advice. Like, how hard did you try? And he's like, when was the last time you had a long-term

relationship? And I'm like, go. Yeah. Good call. Good call. Brother. That's right. That's right. put me in my place, but the adorable thing, I'm just going to tell the whole storyline now because it is so hysterical. So we see the brother. I tell everybody about the brother. They make fun of the brother. Then I want to introduce him to my friends, meaning Carrie, and Carrie brings Samantha, and I'm all like weirdly, I mean, it's almost like a high school vibe. Yes, yeah. Right? Like it's not Charlotte at her most mature at all. Yes, at all. You know, not at all. Which I didn't mind because family, sometimes we do kind of regress. That's a good point. No, that's very.

valid. It's very valid because I think also we were not afraid to show our characters bad, you know, qualities or whatever, their shortcomings, so to speak. So it was great. I did that. That was good. So they, Carrie brings him, brings Samantha, and of course, Samantha takes one look at him and either takes one look at her. Next thing,

you know, it's the morning at my apartment, and I walk out and Samantha's there without any pants on, trying to find coffee filters. And I'm like, what are you doing there? And then, she is oblivious and kind of adorable. Yeah, so cute. Like trying to make coffee for all of us. It's so cute.

Yeah, cute. I know. Shame in a way that Charlotte couldn't just be like, Yay, Samantha's here. Yeah. You know, it's a party. We can have breakfast together. It's true.

It's true. I kind of felt that way when I walked in. Like, it could have been adorable, but not for Charlotte because Charlotte has judgments and rules. Absolutely. So then I say this very mean thing that she should be in the guidebook for New York because she's open all the time. which is like, ugh, such an ick thing to say.

Yeah. Yeah. And luckily, she leaves, and she does look really hurt. Yeah, very genuinely hurt. She really does. And your brother stands up for her and goes after her. Which is nice. That was really nice.

And also then connects back to when he tries to say to him, you know, this is what really happened. I haven't had sex in two years. And she made me feel great. Yeah. And that does seem to land for Charlotte. Thank God. I feel like that's like a good moment of Charlotte learning something.

Yes. And so luckily, then, I make muffins for Samantha and go to her door and she luckily forgives me. I say, I'm sorry. And then she smacks me on the butt, which is something she always did, which is interesting. That was a Kim Adlib that she was very fond of. And I was always like, ooh. But it was fine.

It was kind of an interesting thing because it's like kind of an old-fashioned masculine energy thing. Yes, it is. Yeah. Yeah. And also like a generational that you guys are friends, but also you're a kid too, like, and... Definitely, definitely, definitely. It's very loving and funny in a weird way,

unexpected and funny. And I also can, you can tell that I don't expect her to do it, which is also funny. Because she does do it off and on throughout the years. Now, here, this is the whole thematic situation. No, yes. Oh, good, good. We're getting to the...

Yes, the thematics are so good about the family. And I love this, oh, this is, oh, the Justin. Yeah. We didn't talk about Justin's poor problem. It's not Justin, of course. It's the character. It's the character. So this is the sad, sad thing.

And I felt so bad for Carrie in this whole storyline. I hadn't remembered this at all, right? So I'm basically like a first-time viewer because you're thinking, this guy's fantastic. Yeah. He's adorable. He's a writer. His family is awesome. Yes.

And yet. And then they start making out. in Carrie's kitchen and then he, you know, um, ejaculates. I'm just going to have to say it. Yeah. So he has like, what's it called? It has a name. Thank you.

Premature ejaculation. It's terrible. It's terrible. I know and poor Carrie just looks like, kind of like, oh dear. Yeah. And then you can see that she's like, the wheels are turning. The wheels are turning. What do I do?

How do I? And, you know, at a certain point, once she meets the family, then she just wants to talk about the family. And then at one point he goes, I think this would be the next scene. He goes, oh, I don't want to talk about my family right now because they're kissing, right? But she now is kind of infatuated with his mother in a way, you know? Which is adorable. But, of course, he wouldn't want to talk about his mother.

Oh, I love the part where he, he, so she has a scene with the mother played by Valerie Harper. When Valerie Harper says, I always talked very openly to my kids. With sex with my children. Right. Since they were two. And, of course, as a mom, I'm thinking like, that's amazing. She did that, right? then come to find out

Justin's character says Carrie, when Carrie tries eventually to talk to him about this, he goes, I'm so sick of talking about sex. I've had to talk about since I was two years old. Right? And you're like, ooh, backfire. Yes. Backfire situation. But it's so sad too because, you know,

they try a few times and they keep running into this same problem and eventually Carrie is like, we're going to take it slow and she's really trying to like not bail. You know, she's trying to He's trying to actually, and he just cannot talk about it. He cannot deal.

He cannot try to work it out. And he seems mad. Mad. Which is not good. That's the main problem. Yeah. Because my feeling is you can work on anything as long as people want to. You stay open and communicate and yeah.

Yeah. But he can't. No, no, he's mad. And it's so sad because he's there. He's shirtless. He's like so dreamy. Yeah. He's Justin, you know.

But yet can't even talk to her about it. And he seems mad that she's trying. Yes. And that's a terrible trait. Yes. Yeah. No, that's just like, if you can't have communication, then that's, yeah. There's nothing you can do.

No, no. And it's really sad. And then she realizes that she really has to break up with his mother. I know. And that's so sad. And this is when we have your wonderful scene. Yes. So you guys go back.

We're back at the apartment with the family. And everyone is perched on like kind of small. furniture, which is kind of cute. Around this little living room, we're all just dot it around with our plates of food. Yeah, it's so cute. And you are the girlfriend. I'm the girlfriend of Justin's little sister. Got it, got it, got it. Which is, Fannie or Zoe, don't know, one of them. I think Zoe, I don't know. Okay, got it. Yeah, one of them. Yeah. And you got, did they say you're going camping or something? We're going camping. Valerie at one point is like, oh, whichever one it is, tells me that you're going camping, which I thought was really funny because even though

this family is amazing and all the things, there's also as a sense that like that mother definitely inserts herself into her children's lives. Yeah. And Sarah and I, she has this voiceover. Sarah and I had this moment of looking at each other and she has this voiceover where she says something like, because you're outsiders. We're outsiders. Like Gem and I look to each other like the people i can't remember exactly something like we didn't have the passports and yeah and there was a feeling of like even though it's amazing to have like a family like that like within reason like at some point the mothers do you need to give their children the space absolutely to run their their thing you know it's almost too close it's almost too yeah i have a family i know who's like this

and everyone, every family member is amazing. Yeah. But the boys in the family have challenges when it comes to the girlfriends in terms of everyone approving. That's right. And I feel for them because like on the one hand, the closeness, like just as a mother, you look at that and you think like, isn't that amazing to have your grown children. Children be so close. Right? Yeah. Doesn't that feel wonderful? Yes. But then also you need a enough space that they can like make their own new life yeah like try things try things and choose people right right um it's interesting and that like when when carrie then is like i'm gonna leave because justin throw is like banging around and basically having a tantrum about cream cheese

he's having a grown grown umtum yeah uh rhoda i most said Valerie is like it's out there she's kind of trying to ignore him yeah he's like where is it yeah so carrie tries to leave and you know, Valerie Harper's character like follows her and basically says, look, his last girlfriend was less discreet

and, you know, it's, I know what the problem is. I know what the problem is. I know what the problem is and the irony that he's a short story writer. Oh my God.

Yeah. And Carrie's like, I cannot discuss this with you. I don't. She's like, we can talk about anything. It's like, no.

That's mortifying. Yeah, it is. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, this is the other thing

that went through my head. I'm thinking to myself like the mom needs to get him into some therapy. Yes. Right? Like if she's in the middle of it, then she needs to... Just actually be productive and help. The actual problem. He needs

talk therapy and also like a doctor. A doctor to help work that out. There's things that can be done. Right? Yeah. I think there is. There aren't there commercials for this ED? Right? Yes. There are I don't know what it is. I mean, I don't know back in the day but I'm sure... Back in the day, right.

I'm sure there are things that could something be done definitely something man out totally let's hope he got help in the future at some point but then the sweet scene where the voiceover says you know I realized that I needed to break up with his mother and she's basically trying to say it's not you you're wonderful and then the the mom is trying to fight for the relationship and then she says something crazy like 75% of marriages are sexless I'm like oh god no I know and I love Carrie's reaction to the that she's just like we cannot be satisfied with those numbers like to just settle for that it's like no no no and I mean on the other hand Valerie Harper saying you know that's not the only thing and I think of true right not the only thing

but it is one of the things right but it's also interesting if you look at the way that our characters all talk about sex because obviously that's part of the thing that we do right which is freeing and amazing but then it sometimes almost seems like the focus goes too much there. Too much to that. And luckily, through Charlotte's whole marriage thing, we have some growth in that area for her at least, right? But everyone's different in terms of how important sex is to them or not or whatever. That's right.

Well, and also because the show is exploring like the starts of lots of relationships, that is an exciting part of the beginning of a relationship, right? So there's a lot of focus on that at the beginning of relationship. up. And then obviously, hopefully everything evolves together. Right. But if that thing is broken at the beginning, then it's like, oh, then where's this going to go? Absolutely. And especially if the person can't talk about it, like in the way that Carrie really tries, which I was so happy that she did. Because I didn't remember the storyline at all, right? So I was like, oh, my God, what's going to happen? Yeah. She hung in there.

Yeah, totally. She really tries. And maybe it's because she loves his family, but also he's adorable and interesting. He's so cute. Yeah. And what's weird is, like, like on some level it almost feels like he has a blind spot because this keeps happening right but then he comes back in all like haughty and flirtatious and like let's like make a moment of yes which is going to be done in 30 seconds totally it's almost like he's he almost seems unaware yeah which is also interesting yeah but I mean I you can tell him debating what I should say now. I have had one relationship where this was kind of a problem,

not to the extent, because this is very extreme this situation in the show, right? But I did have one relationship. And, you know, sometimes I think like, hmm, you know, should I say something? Yeah. Or should I not? Should I, eh, is, am I okay?

You know, you're just like, yeah. Am I okay with it? Am I not okay with it? And I think, I think, not to make, like, gross generalizations, but I think as women, we are kind of, we want to facilitate people feeling good about themselves. And sometimes we're like, maybe the fix comes in just, like, making things nice for them. And then they'll create comfort and confidence instead of going right to the problem, which might make them feel insecure and then that compels a problem.

No, that's so true. And that's what's so awkward. And I thought that the way that Carrie did it in the show was, She's so loving and sweet. So loving and sweet. And that's why when he's just like, what? Yeah. You know, and she's like, we have to talk about.

Right, because it's pretty extreme. Yeah. It's pretty extreme. Yeah. Yeah. My situation was not that extreme. But I also felt like the person that I was involved with had some understanding about it because there were things that he would do to, to, like, focus on me, so to speak.

But I was like, that's too much focus on me. Yeah. Right. I would this to be like a communal experience but then in reality I thought it through and I thought oh that is kind of a mechanism

to take the focus off this kind of thing it wasn't as bad it definitely wasn't as bad but at a certain point I was like this just weird I don't feel like I can talk about it and I mean if you think about the show

that the show is trying to take like the lid off of all of the different things and say you can talk about it you can talk about it And that's the only way to try to solve anything. Absolutely. I try to tell my seven-year-old this, you know? Like, we've got to talk about the feelings.

You know, we've got to talk about the feelings. Yeah. I mean, hopefully I can get him to. It's not easy. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time,

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No, on the Q rating as I get it. My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency score. Where's your grit? My grit. I got to get my grits score up. Now, don't think that you're going to come out Los Culturistas, the podcast,

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As I said, I'm a big fan. Oh, you're sweet. Thank you. Not even knowing that you had been on our show. I've just been a watching fan. Thank you. I didn't even think I knew that you were married to Alan and didn't even know that connection. I was just like, she's amazing and so unique.

Thank you. Yes. And I love everything you've done because I think you get to play this, like we touched on a bit. You get to play kind of more masculine characters, but you're yet this tiny little, you know, it's amazing. It's been a funny journey. But, I mean, one that I've been grateful for because you do hear about women's roles being marginalized or whatever. But when you're given these roles of women who have. have kind of an internal power, then you get to live that out.

Absolutely. Those are interesting stories. Good point. So anyway, most recently, I don't know if you know the show for all mankind. I'll admit that I wasn't familiar with it at all. It's this great sci-fi show on Apple TV, and the structure is very interesting. Each season jumps a decade. Oh.

So it starts in 1969. It's a revisionist history of what if Russia got to the movie? first. Oh, wow. Which launched this incredible space race. Okay. And then your main characters from season one, you get to watch them age throughout the course of their lives. Cool. It's very cool. So season, and so every season they have to bring in new characters because it's a full decade later and what's happening and now we're on the moon and now we're on Mars and now we're, you know, oh wow, wow. So I got to join in season five as one of the new main characters of season five. And I mean, there's so much storyline and everything, but it's coming out this fall.

Oh, wow. Yeah. So I haven't seen it yet. Oh, my gosh. But I'm excited to see it. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing.

And tell us about John Ham. And John Ham. We love John Ham. Yeah, we love John Ham. So, and then I've just signed on to do a limited series with John Ham called American Hostage. That's coming out on MGM Plus. Got it. And it's very interesting story based on a true story in the 70s.

A man was taken hostage in kind of a public way in Illinois. and asked the the kidnapper asked to be interviewed live by kind of this famous Illinois radio journalist. Wow. And that man agreed to do it. And just like the role of journalism and the role of us as citizens, like what our place is in just helping. Well, that's fascinating. It's really like riveting story. Oh, my gosh.

I cannot wait to see that. How incredible. I have a really important question. Okay. Are you a Charlotte? I don't think so. Really? I think I'm scrappy.

I grew up scrappy. Tell me. Okay. I grew up in like Texas with like chickens in my backyard. Oh my God. I love that. But that doesn't mean that you're not a Charlotte because you are wearing a pussy boat of bows and parts.

I know. I did put on this blouse on purpose just to like tip it in that direction a little bit. I thought this was just your everyday wear. No. I think I think. I think I'm a little scrappier than Charlotte. She was always so put together.

That's true. That's one of her homework. And most days, I do not look like this. Most days I'm, I mean, yeah, yeah, I, yeah, most days I'm just a little, yeah. So like, would you put yourself more in a Miranda kind of? So I think I'm, I think I'm a little bit ambitious like a Miranda. Got it. I think maybe I'm just pieces.

Which is fantastic. Yeah, yeah. I'm a little bit. like scattered like carry I'm a little I don't know I think I like it yeah I like it I mean people who talk about that we're all parts of one woman which I find interesting and yeah depends who's saying that whether I'm annoyed by that or not do you know to me yeah because all women can be everything right of course right right right and you can be also these other things and it doesn't mean that you're just parts or whatever you don't I'm trying to say

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