Are You A Charlotte? - You're breaking up with me?... Oliver Hudson continues S1 E7 "The Monogamists"

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Oliver Hudson returns and dishing the details to Kristin about an agent who said he'd never make it in this business. Simultaneously, Kristin reveals to Oliver that there was a scene in this episode that was cut... and it's a dirty dog of an idea.  Plus, it's probably not a good idea to break up with someone in the middle of having sex with them!    Follow Are You A Charlotte? on Instagram  and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I wanna know, are you a Charlotte? Hi everybody, I am here with Oliver Hudson, and there is still so much to talk about in Season 1, Episode 7, The Monogamists. All right, Carrie and Big, they're walking through, we talked about that. Then they're at Carrie's apartment and Miranda calls and Carrie's like, I did the terrible

thing, which is like I ignored my friends because of a guy, very bad. Yeah, yeah. And she has this really cute moment of like, you know, it's so cute. You also see through this show that we still have to talk to the camera. I know. Like even the rest of us have to talk to the camera. I did not remember that at all.

Well, there was one sequence in the restaurant where you're, you know, it's like almost carries just perspective. Right, but we are literally looking at the camera. We are looking down right down the barrel of the lens. It's freaky. Weird. I know Darren directed it.

I should have said that at the beginning. Darren Starr wrote and directed this episode. Yeah. And he, like I said, he was really toying around with different stuff and he loved talking to the camera. Yeah. Sarah Jessica, not so much. She's on record saying this so I'm not saying anything

I'm not supposed to. She does not love it. Right, well, there was one time, I think she's in her bedroom, all of a sudden she goes, and then, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. I'm like, whoa. I know. How hard is that for an actor? It's strange.

Yeah. Because it takes you out, like, why are you doing it sometimes, but not all the time? Yeah, and like, who are you talking to? Yeah, who are you talking to? Right? Because if you're just there and you're hearing her thoughts, that's great. But then her mouth is moving and she's talking to something, but she's alone in her apartment.

It's freaky. And she was always struggling to really make it real, you know? But how do you actually make that real? But Darren loved it. So Darren was trying for more. But we still have at this point also, which really made me laugh, the people on the street. Oh my God. have at this point also, which really made me laugh, the people on the street. Oh my God, yeah.

When the guy's like, I've been in a monogamous relationship for nine years, I sleep with prostitutes. Yeah. What was that? That's the weird thing that we did in the beginning, which was kind of like this anthology feeling. Are those actors?

Yeah, they're actors acting like people on the street. Yeah, not very good ones. Oh! There are actors acting like people on the street. Yeah, not very good ones. Oh! I'm, well. You thought they were real people where we were like, hey, come here.

Yeah, and maybe do a little acting bit. Because I was like, oh. No, those are actors. Okay, okay. Those are actors. One of them is one of our DPs. And I think he, his name is Michael Spiller. He's on the bench and he says,

oh my God, now I can't remember. I laugh every time I see him. I'm like, why is he there? Because we would flip back and forth with DPs because it was too hard to scout film and then edit. And we hadn't gotten our, we were still trying different people out. And I don't think he DP'd that

episode but he's sitting on the bench so one of them is our DP. He says something weird and kind of looks at the camera and it is weird but we know him so obviously that's why it's weird. Then they're at the all of us are at the restaurant and I thought that was good we don't have our coffee shop established at this point right so we would just be out at real restaurants in New York, and you know how it is to film a dinner scene. Oh, gosh. It's long. It's really long.

I just did it in Toronto a couple times, but one specific, there was like six people around a table. Rough. And it is the worst. It is, it's hard. And we always had these. No, I know. It's become the cornerstone.

But eventually we built a set, which made it easier. But this one, we're at the Blue Water Grill, I believe, which we should show the sign. We would have a restaurant, we would cross board it, right? So we would try to make it look different in one corner and then big is there having, and then I go out with, I walk out of the front with the guy who wants me to go down on it.

Also sidebar, and I did just see Darren Star and talk to him about this. At the time, both Darren and I had golden retrievers and they were good friends, the dogs, and they loved each other. And we loved our dogs and there's a golden retriever in the show and there used to be a scene. Oh no.

It's really terrible. This is the guy who wants me to go down on him, right? And then I leave, you know, eventually Oh no. It's really terrible. This is the guy who wants me to go down on him, right? And then I leave, you know, eventually, and Carrie's voiceover says something like, what's your name? The dog is like Crystal or something. But Crystal was very happy,

and she's sitting there looking at him like very happy. There used to be a scene where she was supposed to do something really gross. Peanut butter on his... Correct. How did you know? It just came to me. The minute he started, I was like,

there's definitely something. I know, because you could feel that vibe in the scene, couldn't you? But we had good sense and didn't put it in the final edit. That's probably smart. For sure smart. And I saw Darren the other day and I was like, Darren, guess what episode is coming up?

And he was like, oh yeah, that never should have happened. Yeah. No, you tackle a lot of subjects, but bestiality might not. Yeah, you might not want to deal with that one. Should not be one with a beautiful golden retriever. Oh my god, which really makes that guy seem horrific. Well then he needs to go to jail. Right, like that.

Anyway, luckily, so every time we get to that part, I'm like filled with nerves, because I remember. If you're doing the comedy part of it, you see him pushing the dog's head down. But then the dog's resisting too. No, the idea was that the dog was really into it. I know. That would have been funny if he'd just,

and the dog's like, brr. Don't even. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. OK, so you remember Skipper.

Skipper is the guy who's inside of the other woman when Miranda calls. Right, so basically the back up is, so previously- Are you breaking up with him? Are you inside of him? You're breaking up with him. It's funny. I know, that was really funny.

But also, I don't remember any of this, so it was so much fun to watch it again. First of all, I love when Carrie and Miranda have dinner on the street at some little Italian restaurant. It is so amazing because this is still a through line. And Miranda's kind of the only one who just tells Carrie like, no, that's a horrible idea. You know, she's just very like, no, don't go out with Big again. No, no, you know, whatever. And it's really funny because Carrie goes through her whole spiral like,

do you think when he said, I miss you, babe, that he was really saying, I'm sorry that I went out on a date with that woman when in fact we'd spend a whole week together? And Miranda's like, maybe. It's really funny. And then Carrie's like, but then I have to doubt everything that he's ever said to me. And then she goes like, I'm spiraling, I'm losing my mind.

And then Skipper walks by with this woman who's very chic and works for Vogue and talks about Paris and Miranda's like, huh. And you can just see her little brain turning and they walk away and then they tear each other's clothes up in that weird frenzied way, which makes literally no sense. And then Miranda calls and is talking

on the answering machine like in the olden days and they can hear her voice. It just brought back ideas, right? And so many memories. And they're having sex, and she's basically like, oh, you know, we should have dinner, she says on the phone. And he makes it up, just picking up the phone. It's just so mortifying.

Oh my gosh. Just so mortifying. But like, the thing now that I think it reminds me of is, you know, there are people who keep their phone with the sounds on or the vibrating on all the time, right? I have my phone on silent all the time, probably because we work and we can't have the sounds. But also like whatever you're doing,

you could be mid-sentence, you could be mid anything and they'll pick their phone up. You're just like, why? It reminded me of that in a way. It's like an old fashioned version of like the most inappropriate time to pick the phone up. Oh gosh. Like that's very bad.

Oh, of course, but he's obviously head over heels in love. Exactly. Doesn't matter what's going on. He just can't help himself. And I thought he acted it really well, really well. So he picks it up and she basically says like, oh, very casually like, we should have dinner. And he's like, okay.

And then he hangs up and he says to the woman that he's having sex with, like, I'm in love with that woman who's on the phone. I know, the honesty is, wow. I know, he's like a child. He has no veneer whatsoever. I know, it is, it's very childlike. It's fascinating, it's fascinating.

So funny. And the poor woman says, are you breaking up with me while you're inside of me? And he was like, yes, or whatever. Then the really sad part is they go to Miranda and him, you know, after sex in this super cute shot. Also, she's got like two green flats. Like in the olden days, we didn't have sets, right?

Like Charlotte had two white flats and they would just move them around. Flats are like part of a set, like a board, a wall, a fake wall. Right, and so if you had to shoot one way, you'd move them this to be the background, and then if you had to shoot the other corner, you'd move them.

So Miranda has, strangely, two emerald green flats, and like a bed with like nothing. It's literally the starkest. I noticed that. Like no effort. I was like, where is she? In like a prison cell? I was like, where is Miranda?

She's in a green prison cell. It's Miranda, yeah, it's Miranda. So they're in the prison cell and they've had sex and they're very adorably, you know, spooning kind of or whatever, chatting. And he's like, oh yeah, I had to break up with that woman. And she's like, what, why did you do that? And he's like, well, because you called me back.

And she said, no, no, we don't need to be in a relationship. You can still see her. She has so much power. It's so interesting. And it's so not really Cynthia-like in any relationship. You can still see her. You can still see her. She has so much power. It's so interesting. And it's so not really Cynthia like in any way. Like she's not a player, you know, at all. And it's funny to watch her acting, but doing it like so brilliantly, you know,

which I don't feel when I watch myself at all. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, I'm a puppy. I'm a puppy. I'm floundering. I don't know what I'm doing there. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, I'm a puppy. I'm a puppy. I'm floundering. I don't know what I'm doing there. Do you know what I mean? But she, and I know she felt she didn't know

what she was doing, because she used to turn to me all the time and say, not my medium. She's a theater actress, right? And she eventually, which I've also said, sorry if I'm repeating myself, would watch the dailies. She would get, ask for the dailies every day.

Watch them in the hair and makeup trailer. Yes, she was on a crash course. We would all come in the hair and makeup trailer and be like, please take it off. And she'd be like, please, please, do not make us watch it while we're getting our hair and makeup done, we will die. And so she would take them home and watch them.

Can you imagine going home from work and watching your dailies every day? I mean, she really is, home and watch them. Can you imagine going home from work and watching your daily every day? She's a real actor. I mean, she really is. It's impressive. No, I know. But even when I watch back, I'm like, I don't really know why she's saying that.

She's fantastic. I don't know why she felt that way. Before your show, she had done movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, they were such high-level movies that I don't think that it's obviously very different to be in a Miloš Forman film than it is to be in like a set show where you have to,

I mean, yes, we did a lot of takes, but like we were going at a crazy pace. You're shooting multiple pages a day. Oh yeah, and like different locations and this and that. And if all four of us were there and we're not really walking and talking yet as a foursome, but once we start walking and talking as a foursome, like that is like a very elaborate dance, where you're having to find the lens,

you're having to be in front and then behind and then on this line and on that line. And then there's the musicality of it, which we talked about earlier. And for me, I always thought of it, you know, we're a quartet and you know, my note was the high note. I was like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. And I mean, you know what I'm saying, right? That's the sound to describe. Right? I mean, it is, right? Especially in the beginning, you know?

And we had to talk really fast because Michael expected that and we had to have our lines and we had to, you know, it's like hardcore comedy, right? So all of those things together, it was very technically challenging. But I only see that starting now, right? Like it's more two people scenes. And that she can totally handle.

And I think it's funny that she felt like it wasn't a medium because I think she's brilliant. Oh, she's amazing. Yes. Anyway, back to my paper. So they're there, they're there. And poor Skipper again, just kicked to the curb and he's like very upset. I think he's so good. He's so good. I know it's really funny. But at the same time you're looking at this guy like, you know,

did you think this was just an invite back to love? I think he did. What was their relationship prior? Their relationship was that he was the puppy and she would like push him up against the wall and someone should be like, you know, like, go away with your little buzzy buzz. You know, you're like a little fly around me or whatever. I mean, he never had the power. Well, it just goes back to miscommunication. He thinks one thing, she wants another, and she was upfront about it and saying,

no, do your thing. And then he got butt hurt and that was the end of it. You know? He's just kind of like, oh, well, this isn't what I thought it was. That's true. He's kind of like the girl. Yeah.

Right. Which is adorable. Yeah. And really likable, I think. At the time, I was like, uh, skipper. You know what I mean? It's just so funny to look back on my thoughts back then. thoughts back then. consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to

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So the Samantha storyline is that she's obsessed with the new apartment and the great Caroline Aaron, who was later in the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, I don't know if you watched that, she's incredible. She's Samantha's realtor, which is so funny. And she so made me laugh out loud, because she basically asks Samantha to be a monogamous client.

And Samantha's like, sure. And you absolutely know that she does not intend to be a monogamous client Cut to her with a very handsome male realtor Looking at the apartment and then stripping off her top I know it's interesting because they they they had sex in multiple apartments multiple and the same day I mean, it's a good question I think it could be and then there was another one at night that's true when she gets caught Yeah, was it the same day? I mean look I wouldn't put I mean, it's a good question. I think it could be. Because one was in the day, and then there was another one at night. That's true, when she gets caught. Right, was it the same day?

Was she just going from apartment to apartment? I mean, yeah, it could happen. I mean, she does what she wants. And this is why I think people really, really love that character. No, I know. I mean, it's pretty brash. But I don't think we need to be monogamous

to our real estate. No, I totally agree. Except I have to say. Maybe, maybe, because Richard is a good friend of mine who's selling my house. I've known him since we were like in LA. Did you say you're selling your house? No, when I was.

When you did, yes. When I bought and sold. And I feel like if I, he caught wind. It would hurt, yeah. No, my realtor is my friend and I would never two time her. Right. No, yeah. Also it's their livelihood.

I know. You know? Yeah, so maybe. Maybe Caroline Aaron's character was right. Maybe she was right. Maybe she was right. You're right. Yeah.

Maybe you need to be a monogamous to your releter. The hardest breakup I've ever had was with a therapist when I wanted to go see someone else. That's hard. I'm like, so, this is really tough for me, but you know, Jan, I don't think it's working anymore. I'm gonna see another therapist. What did they say?

Cool, they're therapists. Okay, good. So you were more scared than they, okay, good. If they had any other. Yeah, no, it would be strange and unprofessional. If he or she was like, you little son of a bitch, and you're like, wait a minute. Actually, real quick story.

I get off topic a ton. No, it's okay, it's okay. The hardest breakup that I ever had was with my first agent. Oh, the agent sister. Again, I wasn't being, I didn't want to be an actor, but I just fell into it. And of course, I love it, but I was trying to model to make money,

which was the most horrific experience of my life. There's a million stories about that. But they had an agency within the modeling agency, a little small deal. Yeah, yeah. And I was with this girl, I won't say her name. And she was helping me do my thing. And I get a little gig or whatever,

and then another little gig, and then a bigger agency wants to sort of bring me on. Still kind of a mid-level thing, but. Right. And I was talking to my manager, I'm like, I'm so scared, like I don't know what to say. It's really hard. And he said, they deal with this all the time.

You should have made your manager do it. It's okay, that's what I said, I said, Dave, you do it, and he was like, no, you need to do this. Totally, my manager's Dave also. Right. I would make Dave do it. Yeah, no, I said, Dave, go. Yeah. No, you need to do this. My manager's Dave also. I would make Dave do it. Yeah, no, I said, Dave, go.

Yeah. No, you need to do this. Oof. I said, okay, she's going to be cool. Happens all the time. I said, so listen, I really appreciate you and I thank you so much, but I've had this amazing opportunity

to advance my career with representation. I went the whole thing. It was quiet. And she's like, you little son of a bitch. How dare you, you bastard. I can't believe you. The only reason anyone wants you is because your mother's Goldie Hawn.

I mean, went off. When they try to kill you when you're leaving, that's never good, never good. I was laughing, I said, well now, thank God. I have had a similar situation. I said, thank God. Now I know, I said, well now, thank God. I have had a similar situation, yes. I said, thank God, now I know. I said, who's the adult here, are you crazy? Totally.

Cut to many years later, I'm on a sitcom, Rules of Engagement, I'm semi-famous, I'm making money. There's a guest star who comes on the show. This woman is the guest star's agent who's there for the week. Oh no. She doesn't even say anything to me. And finally at the end, at the end, I say,

Hey, her name, how are you? She's like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Wow. And I was like, I'm not doing too bad, right? And she's like, do you approve of all this? She was just, just, you know, could not believe that this was happening. And wait, did she give you anything, nothing?

No, no, no, I didn't, I was just like, you know. That's sad, that's really sad. I can be vindictive, I can be pretty vindictive. I think that's okay. I know, I can be. I think that's okay. This is my feeling in general, and this is with a romantic thing or an agent thing

or a professional thing or whatever. And I've had it in all the different forms. When you try to leave, especially being polite and saying, I really appreciate you, thank you for everything, and you try to leave and they try to kill you, you know, they try to like take you down, very bad. Bad karma. Very bad. And I have had that. I did have that with a friend who is also an agent, which of course is a mistake. And we are still friends. Yeah.

So thank God. But it took some time because it hurt. Yeah. It hurt. I was like, really? You're going to try to kill me? Because she basically was like, you know that the only reason anyone wants you

is for the Sex and the City money. Right. And I was like, yeah, I know that. Yeah. But also someone could also do a great job. Yeah. Because there's a lot of other things I could do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what But also, someone could also do a great job. Yeah. Because there's a lot of other things I could do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, what's the point of saying that to me? Of course. Why would you say that? I know. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here? And I go in and she's eating my lunch. Or if hypnotism is real?

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Just save up and stack up to reach them. Let's put ourselves in the right position. Pre-game to greater things. Start building your retirement plan at thisispretirement.org. Brought to you by AARP and the Ad Council. Okay, so Oliver, what are you doing now? Tell us everything. What am I doing? I just finished a movie. In Vancouver.

In Toronto. Toronto. For Netflix, and it was so much fun. Good. And we had talked about it before the show, but my son ended up doing the movie with me. Oh yeah, amazing. I can't wait to see him. Yeah, so he wanted to be, he wants to, the whole family wants to be actors. All the cousins, all Kate's kids.

Oh my God. It's just kind of what the family business is. And I don't think they know, they say they want to be actors, but they don't know until they actually get in there and do it. Of course. And Wilder, 17, my oldest,

and he went into an acting class. And then I got this guy and agreed to do this gig. There's a 17 year old part to play my son, myself and Alicia Silverstone. And I said, look, just audition. Like, you know, I can get you an audition. So just feel what that's like at least. That's to the extent of where I thought it was gonna go.

Cut to five auditions later, Netflix is wanting to approve them, they need this, they need that, more scenes, and he gets the job. And it's a real part. He's through the whole thing, he's in the whole movie, he's got big scenes. He's got the, and so it was really special for me

to do that with him, living in Toronto. And being together and having that experience his first time. It was incredible. Did you run lines together? Like how did you go about it? I had this, you know, 17, we're still tight, but he's a teenager.

Of course. He goes and does his own thing. Yeah. You know, he used to want to cuddle all the time. Now it's an impossibility. You know, it's like one of those. Yeah. So I had this sort of, you know,

rom-com montage in my head with music and everything. Like, oh, we're going to get to Toronto and we're going to sit on the couch and watch movies. And then we're gonna get to Toronto, and we're gonna sit on the couch and watch movies, and maybe we're gonna share a beer, and we're gonna talk about our feelings, and we're gonna cuddle. I mean, I had this idea. Did any of it happen? No, we get to the fucking apartment,

and, you know, and I'm like, dude, we're here, it's so crazy. He says, yeah, yeah, cool. Up to his room, the door closes. I'm like, oh my God, we're right back in LA. Like, I was like, Wilder, you wanna, you wanna like watch a movie? And, nah, nah, I'm like, oh my God, we're right back in LA. I was like, Wilder, you wanna watch a movie? And, nah, nah, I'm okay. Was he looking at his lines? What was he doing?

Yeah, yeah, he would come into his lines a little bit and then he got more comfortable. But it's one of those things that he definitely appreciates. And once he gets older, and if he still is an actor, he's gonna look back on this and realize how special it is. Amazing. So I did that. I've got a production company,

I've got a deal at Fox, we're just producing a bunch of stuff, TV, really fun. And then I've got podcasts. And a dad, that's number one. I don't even know how you do all these things, it's a lot. Uh, I don't know, I feel like I have free time. Do you? Yeah. So when you were away,

did you do the podcast from Toronto? That's cool, that's the joy of the podcasting. No, it was great. It was great. I haven't really done that part yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Podcasting is- I'm gonna make Easton come with me.

It was fun. Here's the thing about doing it for so long is, you know, you get the call, you gotta do a podcast, you know, blah, blah, blah. And there's a bit of dread to it. To be totally honest, it's like, oh fuck. Well you've been doing it for a while. I get it, I get it.

I'm like, okay, here we go. Right. We gotta do it. Right. And of course I do it because I love it, but at the same time I'm like, oh my God. It's a job. The minute you get into the conversation

with whoever it is you're talking to, and then you finish, and the hour's done. Right. You're invigorated. It's a good time, I know, it's a good time. That was so fun. Yeah, I agree, I agree. And I got to talk to this random person, now I know.

And we had an amazing conversation. That is the joy. And I was like, this is fun. It's true, it is the joy. That's why sometimes I don't like to do it by myself. No, I know, I know. Because the fires, it was hard, you know, and we launched during the fires,

which was awkward to get guests. And I was like, why are we calling people? It seems so strange. Not only that, but then you have to address. Right, and you wanted to live without being so connected to something so crazy and awful. I know. But I just thought, I mean,

a lot of it is my memories too, right? But in this particular episode, I'm just so thankful to have your straight guy perspective because it's important, you know? And like for me sometimes, I can just spin around in my girl head, like why was she with him? Why was she with him?

But like part of the thing that is amazing about our show is the topics are timeless and talking about them to me is still super interesting. 100%. You know, like it's fun. Without a doubt. Yeah, especially re-watching it. You realize, and I said this to you before,

but how far ahead of its time. I know, it was amazing. You know, really. I mean, we knew it was a little bit, but we didn't understand or have any way of knowing the incredible journey that we would get to go on. And thank God that the writing was so incredible

that we could act and that it came together. But also that the fans, we have like our super loyal fans from the beginning and now we have these younger fans from Netflix. It's so great. Oh my god, Erin and all of her girlfriends, Jackie and Robin and all these people were like, oh, you're gonna, I mean, it's, it's, it cannot, it's lived on your show. I mean, it was obsessive.

I mean, it's so special. It's so special. It's incredible. Well, if you need me on again, I'm here. Oh baby. Which I mean, it's so special. Yeah. It's so special. No, I know. It's incredible. Well, if you need me on again, I'm here. Oh, baby. If you want me to watch another one, I'm pretty sure we're gonna need you on.

I'm having fun. I think we're gonna need you on. I'm having fun, this is fun. Because you are a particularly special point of view. You're a man who has worked on themselves and been in a long, successful marriage. Love it. Well, I'm down.

Thank you, Oliver. Thank you. Yay. Bye. Bye. Bye. Hey, all you Women's Hoops fans and folks who just don't know yet that they're Women's Hoops fans.

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