AREA52 - DEBRIEFED With Chris Ramsay - Earth's Hidden War with Aliens - Patrick Jackson - DEBRIEFED ep. 53

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

AREA 52 Shop: https://www.area52.shopPatreon Exclusive Content: https://www.patreon.com/Area52investigations Join The Area52 Discord: https://discord.gg/C7ZB5M3qjvIn this episode we dive deep into Patrick Jackson’s groundbreaking theory on the Sphere Network, a hidden global system of mysterious orbs that may be connected to aliens, ultraterrestrials, or even advanced AI. Patrick breaks down the three classifications of these spheres, Type 1, Type 2, and Type 3, and explains how they work together in a vast coordinated network that might have been operating above us for centuries.We also explore how these spheres could be linked to paranormal activity, from poltergeist outbreaks to strange psychic phenomena, revealing a possible connection between UFOs, ghosts, and other unexplained events.

Sierre Network is an AI-based defense network that is wrapped around the planet. And it's been here for pretty much forever. It uses three layers of sphere architecture, and it's responsible for many paranormal effects, including Haldigais activity. And you can see the type 1B formation right here, and it's the type 2. Okay, and they're illuminated because... They're powered up. They're ready to go.

They're ready to... They're ready to what? What exactly is go? Fire a directed energy weapon? Possibly, yeah. Oh, my God. And now it blew up and it's in outer space and it's no longer there. So this was taken over Florida and again you can see the type 2 and the type 1B formation right there.

The type 1's here and the type 2 is taken off a cruise ship. This was over Barcelona and then here you've got multiple examples of the same thing. All over the world all different times. They're always in this formation. Always in the same formations. Do you speculate that the United States government or at least some faction of it is completely aware of this system? A friend of mine was in 30 East Drive. He was laying on the sofa.

He said that there was a bit of the same thing. a big flash. And he opened his eyes and he saw a woman standing and looking over it. And she was in uniform. We did a search on the uniform and it was Space Force. So what does that mean? Wait, hold on. What does that mean? I think Space Force is well aware of it and I think that they probably work in tandem with them. We were filming in this tunnel.

Some of the sensors went off. He saw something like a figure. What looks to be like a large gray kind of guy with big teardrop eyes. And he walks up to the strobe, looks down, looks at us and carries on, walk him, The problem is because we live on the surface and we produce all these high energy emissions that are going into space. We are announcing where we are exactly to trillions and trillions of solar systems with trillions and trillions of planets. And what it takes is one of them to say, oh, you have something we want. The odds are against us.

The dark forest theory. 13 in Germany near the French border aircraft at just 30 feet above us, just leaving streaks of light behind. It was so fast we couldn't believe it. We felt confused, almost like completely. Just a quick reminder, guys, don't forget to check out our brand new Area 52 teas. These classic teas feature the Area 52 logo embroidered on the front and printed on the back. They're super comfy. Check them out, area 52.com. Ladies and gentlemen, today I would like to welcome to the skiff, Patrick Jackson, author of The Sphere Network. Now, I was really interested in the work that. that he's been doing because, as some of you know at home, I've also myself been sort of toying with this hypothesis

of a network that is interacting with us. And it seems like you've done a lot of work into this little network, or this large network, I should say. And I'm looking forward to discussing that with you today. Welcome, Patrick. Thank you very much for having me. Absolutely. Now you flew in from the UK.

Yes. You're in Cambridge? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So thank you for making the trip. out here. I hope it was seamless. I know it was a long trip. It was a long

one, but it was fun. So Patrick, we're going to be looking through at first. Now, just for the audience at home, you stressed the importance of running me through this slideshow prior to our conversation. So we're going to have a conversation. We're going to delve into hypotheticals and all sorts of like fun stuff. But prior to that, you thought it was really important that I and the audience

sit through a quick little slideshow letting us know exactly technically what exactly it is we're dealing with but prior to getting into this, can you just give us an oversight of what the sphere network is? Well, the sphere network

is an AI-based defense network that is wrapped around the planet and it's been here for pretty much forever. It uses three layers of sphere architecture is controlled from the ground up. And it's responsible for many paranormal effects,

including Pauldigais activity. That's where my interest started, was actually trying to reverse engineer what Poldy guys were. I come from a background of IT and databases and reverse engineering. And I, you know, I've always been like yourself, a very big skeptic of stuff. So I decided to hire out the most aggressive Poldekeyes house in the UK just to see if I could see anything.

and I was there for four days and it was the longest four days of my life because within 15 minutes had been in the place, crazy stuff started happening. Really? Yeah. You documented this?

Oh yeah, it's all on tape. Everything's all documented. Yeah, but what I went in there specifically for was to start to see if I could notice any patterns because 30s drive is a very small building. So it's very easy to start spotting the patterns compared to say a big building.

in like a castle. Right. Because you just wouldn't be able to, it's so large, you wouldn't be able to see anything going on. It's been noises all over the place. Right. But in 30 East Drive, it's because it's so small, it's actually very straightforward to reverse engineer what's going on there because it's pretty much the same patterns we keep reoccurring. Now, you say 30 East Drive.

For those in the audience, maybe like myself, who aren't familiar, this is a haunted house, a famous haunted house in the UK. Yeah, it's actually voted one of the most aggressive polter geists in the United States. UK. In fact, the police don't even go in there. Really? Yeah. So over the, and it's been active for going on, I think, 30, 40 years. And he's had an army of priests going there, has had investigators going there, has had everything. And it's still there. And it still does all the same things.

Was it like a murder or something? No. Well, I mean, they try and tie it to a priest who died there or something going back 40 years. But you have another idea of what this could be. Well, the fact is, in England, UK specifically, is that you'll be lucky to find a bit of ground where someone didn't die. Yeah, that's right. Because of our history and all that. So, you know, you could take any bit of land and say, oh, someone died there 400 years ago, you know. But what these invest, what the mainstream paranormal investigators do is, like a building would become active.

And then all they do is they just hit the history books because they just assume it's dead people. and then they find, oh, there was a murder there 30, 40 years ago, they've come back to haunt it. And that's really it. And they roll with it, you know. And that's how the mainstream deals with it. But my approach was very different. I just went in there as a blank sheet and to start to see what I would find.

Because what I noticed very first was the behavior patterns in this building specifically are not human behavior patterns. You know, humans have a very distinct behavior pattern. They're quite sociable creatures, even the bad ones, you know, even the ones in jail. They're very social, they're still sociable creatures and they want to communicate, you know. And the fact is that everyone's, like everyone has an auntie who talks too much, you know, and tells the world everything. So if she died and she could get talked back to you somehow, she'll be telling the world, oh, it's awesome here. You know what I mean?

You know. You wouldn't just be moving stuff around. No, what you get in Poldy guys specifically is you get banging, scratching, objects thrown, things catching fire. Coverage opening, closing. That's right, yeah. You get strange electrical effects. You get headaches. You get nausea.

You pass out. All very distinctive patterns. Yeah. And this replicates all around the world. Yeah. And for those wondering where a good example of this might be, you don't have to look any further than what's happening on Skinwalker Ranch really and the history there of. Yeah. You know, you've got a large, vast history of poltergeist activity there, but not only that, just like you said, you've got people falling ill to what seems like some type of radiation sickness.

Correct, yeah, because it's the same thing all over the world. It's the same system all over the world. Okay. So, I mean, this is really interesting. So all of a sudden we go from, you know, I didn't expect this turn. I'll be honest. Like when we started discussing this to go from poltergeist activity, you know, I can jump from that to aliens. pretty quickly. Like myself, I can go, no, it's interdimensional beings. But going from what we're going to be looking at now in a second is we're going from poltergeist activity to AI. Yeah. I did not expect that leap. Can you talk us a little bit through that? Yeah, I just have to get you to this slide here. We're going to be pulling these slides up as well in posts so that you guys can follow along. So just to give an example, this here is 30 East Drive. And then you can see it's a normal building,

brick building and then you've got this bit attached to the side of it and this bit here is the most important part that's the haunted part that's where the main events occur like the banging occurs but actually all the activity occurs on the top floors here but this is where the actual banging occurs down here so if you this is actually the staircase inside the building and if you get your meters out if you walk up these stairs right here you'll feel dizzy every time you walk past these steps you feel dizzy

and it's like a sudden dizziness. That's the way you describe it. But also if you have like your EMF detectors and other detectors and stuff, if you put it at the top here, you'll get a very high electrical emissions, like literally off the scale. It's very high energy source. Really? Yeah.

And you have footage of that and documents of that? All on my YouTube and X and stuff. It's all documented. Interesting. So even if you turn all the power off in the house, it's still there. Electromagnetic fields. Yeah. Yeah. And you can say, okay, that's that's very strange. You shouldn't be there.

Is that like, could that be like cell phones? Could that be like now? No, because I'm the only one in there. Right. Or everybody else is outside or something. And this energy source is very specific. And you can actually, it moves around. So you can put your detector there, it will go down. And you put it up there and it goes up again.

Interesting. So it's like a high energy source that's moving around. And so this is the same staircase right here. And what people are seeing are these like black masses moving around. Right. This is actually very common. People see this a lot. they mostly see it in basements andetics

and it looks like a black mass that moves really fast it's like it'd be there and then you goes like that real quick. It's like instant exhilaration. It can move without weight or resistance and it moves a set rate of speed and it moves in a digital way so it's not like speeding

up it just goes like that very very fast. So I got hold of this image here and this is the black mass as it goes past and what you see this is like a filtered image, so to bring out the detail. And you have a lot of noise all up here.

But then right in the middle here, just the top center, you see what looks to be a small bowl or a small sphere. And that kind of caught my interest because it was like, well, that's an artificial shape in noise. You know, to my 90 point of view, that's like a round object would be artificial. That's right. Right. Digital object might be a little bit more jagged.

Correct, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is another image I got hold of. And this here, is a, again, filtered image and what comes out as a small silver ball. It's about the size of a baseball, and it's hovering

off the ground. And when I saw this, I was in my... Because what my process was, I spent four days there and I had it all filmed and then I went, took it all to my workplace, and then I'd start, finish work at like 5.30, and I would work from 5.30 to 7.30

every night for like three months to try and find something in the noise, you know, something like a spot. Just looking through footage. Just looking, and I was obsessed with it. Prior to it. AI. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. This is a little bit far before all that. A lot easier today. Yeah. And so I was really obsessed with it. I would like wake up in the morning, five in the morning, and it would be just on my head. It was like a machine in my head. I explain it to people and

they think, you know, it's crazy. But it's like I, it's like I have a machine in my head that goes through all these different models. Like you can take all these data points and you can it, it can model all these different ideas and stuff. Essentially a computer. And I can't do it with anything else. I can't do it with math. or anything, but I can do it with this for some reason. And so anyway, I finally saw this. And when I saw it, it was like all the jigsaw puzzles parts all just clicked together. So prior to this, you didn't have working theory.

I had a couple, but they all fell through very quick. I see. And so, yeah, the whole sphere network theory wasn't something you were looking for. No. Right. Okay, I think that's an important distinction here because going into something like this, having, you know, some bias. Oh, yeah.

Could definitely, you could see how, okay, maybe that's a sphere, maybe that's this, maybe that's that. I had this other theory, which I worked on for a while, but it fell through within 15 minutes. I had a theory called quantum mirroring. That was it. And what it was was I kind of thought, well, okay, well, if maybe there's a way that we're like in a parallel, or the timelines can cross, something like that. and then you see projections from the past. Sure.

And I was thinking, well, what can do that? Valid idea, I think, yeah. And I thought, well, what can do that? You know, well, gravity itself is connected to time. Maybe the alignments of the planets could somehow bend the timelines to cross over. And then you see shadows of the past, something like that. And for a while, I thought, that's a pretty valid one that might work. Also, sounds like astrology.

Yeah, yeah. So I thought, well, because there's also a degree of clockwork when it's, it comes to these paranormal stuff. So I thought, well, stars are clockwork because they also have a certain pattern and movement and the timing. So maybe the changing changes in the gravitational effects of the planets can affect the timeline, which can cause a blur. Kind of like the moon affects the tide.

Something, yeah. But more I thought about it, the more it kind of fell to pieces, because if that was the case, it wouldn't just be happening in one location. it would be happening everywhere. Good point. Okay. You know what I mean? So everyone would be seeing the same thing all over the planet.

And then when I was in 30th East Drive, on my first night, I was just upstairs. And I just said, is anyone here? You know, and the door banged eight times. And I was like, well, there's no one downstairs. And I got that on tape as well. And there's no one there. And there's a sealed door and no one can get there. And it was very distinct.

Huh. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, well, that broke that theory. Yeah. So I just started from scratch again. I mean, as a magician and an entertainer, the first thing that I think is there's someone down there. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Or there's some sort of mechanics or technology. Exactly. And so was there any way of ruling that out? Oh, yeah. You can just go in there. It's just like an empty concrete room. Yeah. And the door.

And that's it. It's all sealed. There's nothing there. There's no, there's no, it's not like there's air going in and causing a suction or anything like that. It's just a room. Yeah. We're assuming that this is. But there is, like a part of me has to remain a little skeptical for that because if this is a famous haunted hub, then, you know, rightfully there would be a reason to attract, you know, tourism to it as well. Am I incorrect?

Well, originally it was a private house. Right. But then after this, the, because this has been haunted 30, 40 years. And if, yeah, in the beginning, it was, it was a private house. But then eventually the people, the people. who owned it, sold it to, who owns it now, a guy called Bill. And obviously, no one wants to buy it because it was. But Bill probably runs tours and stuff. Yeah, he rented it out. Like, for me, that's like always got to be up there as well. Like, I mean, there is obviously, that doesn't negate what we're seeing here, but it does, it should be added into the equation. Oh, exactly, yeah.

And I would, I would think the same thing if I hadn't seen it before. Sure. Again, I just went in there, like a clear kind of like a. Yeah, unbiased, let's just go. Just see what I find. Sure. And this is what I found. So, yeah, we spotted this small silver ball hovering off the ground.

And when I saw that, it was like, okay, Eureka. In fact, when I, when I, because I've been working so long of this, when I saw it, I actually started shaking. It was like, some sort of shock hit me. And I was like, oh, fuck. Ontologically. Yeah, because it completely changes or remaps your brain. And I was like, oh, my God. And I actually went down, I had to go down the pub.

and just drink myself. Down a pint. Down a quite a few pints and sort of process it. And I was to sit there like this, just like staring into space for four or five hours afterwards because it all started clicking into place. So what you have really is, in this case, you have a, it's basically a small store. There's a video.

No, this is a still shot, but there are videos of this somewhere. So, yeah, let me just move to another shot. This is, again, four pictures of the same thing. And in this case here, you see it flying towards the door. because it's got a trail behind it. This trail has also been replicated over Skinwalker on their AI cameras. They have like a distinctive trail

going by. It's like a lensing effect as it go by. And then this one here, then goes here, they ducks back and then it sits there for a little while. Yeah, it's wild. That's clearly, you know, there's clearly something there. Yeah, it's not just like a technical error on behalf of the camera.

There's actually some type of physical or non-physical object or light source running through. That's right. Yeah. That's interesting. And then you've got examples from 1903 where they are seeing like these glowing spheres. Entering the home. Flying through homes. That's right. And back then, you know, even today they say, oh, ball lightning, you know, but we'll get into that later because it's not ball lightning. I mean, even ball lightning is inexplicable. So. Yeah. So these objects, what they can do is a thing called quantum tunneling, which means that they can pass through solid objects. And it's amazing to watch because I've been in 30s drive where we've got

the camera set up and you see these little balls like on the IR camera in the upstairs room and they'll fly through the ceiling into the lounge, do a couple of curls, then go up again. So it's clearly intelligent flight control. It's not like just random dust blowing around. But that's what, this is a depiction of what people were seeing in 1903. So this here is a few examples. So this was taken in the US. So this was taken in the English field and this was taken in 30 East Drive. And you can see it's the same. little ball. Little light orbs.

A light ball, yeah. The only difference is in this state here is like in a low power state, where all you see is like a silver ball and here as well. But in this one here, you see it's glowing. And this is where people get confused where it's saying it's plasma robs or silver spheres or different things, but they're not. They're the same thing. What it is, is when these things are powered up or how it logically maps out,

is when these things are powered up, they're producing a high energy field around them, which is energizing the gas molecules. in the environment surrounding them, which then produces a glow. It's the same process as lightning in electric storms. The only difference is in electric storms, you have a buildup of charge. You see a big lightning strike, and then it powers down again. Because in nature, nothing is constant. It's in a constant state of flux.

But in this case, you see just a constant ball of light, which means a power source is artificial. So you've got to ask yourself, okay, so why? Why are these small spheres in buildings themselves? Why are they there? Sure. Why would they be performing physical actions to move people away, and why people are getting physically affected? So there's three things that a drone would need to use,

regardless of how advanced the technology is. One, it needs to send and receive signals. Two, it needs a network, and three, it needs AI. So this is also key to the repetitive actions as well, because the door is a repetitive action. it keeps from looping. It's the same effect. So what you have is an AI process. A process has occurring to execute

and it works. And it works. So the question is, okay, so if these are drones, I mean, have any signals been received or anything? And the answer is yes. So what I'd done was I managed to sample the

signals that are coming from these spheres at the time inside the building. And this is it. It's right here. So what it appears to be is an 18-bit signal, and you have two synchronization bits, which is here and here, and then you have the main data packet right here. So what it appears to be is doing a thing called burst relaying. So it'll power up, your burst relay, send and receive signals, then power down again.

When it's powered up, it appears to be transmitting microwave data, but also it has a gamma radiation byproduct. And I think this is why it produces actions to move people away, but we'll get into that in the So you're essentially, the theory is that these smaller spheres that are, you know, on camera here floating around or that people are seen with the naked eye or on their, you know, nest cams or whatever it is are part of a network. Now, their job primarily is to get people out of the way, is to move people in a certain direction based on an AI system that. that triggers that event. Correct. So the pre-coded library of actions.

So like a library of actions, meaning a wrap at the door or a vase falling off the counter and you have to go and clean it up or something. That's right. It appears to either want to force you away from itself or lock you in place. So if I was playing the Sims, you know, the game of Sims, right? And I was to, you know, drop something in the kitchen. What happens to that sim? That's right.

He stays it, to cleaning it up. He goes into the kitchen, hears a noise, a little bubble. goes, ah, that's right. And he sweeps it up. And so in that time, you're proposing that sphere is maneuvering through the house. Or it's transmitting. Or it's transmitting something and it doesn't want you to fall ill. Right. Yeah. I see. Yeah. It's all to do with the inverse square lower radiation. And it's, it seems so far-fetched. I'm not going to lie. But what's interesting, you know, hearing it right now seems far-fetched, but it's interesting how once you start going into all the other sort of macro sphere of the sphere network, you're starting to see things that we can

actually identify with cameras and airplanes and different sightings. And so this is like the microcosm of that sphere network, which, you know, is for me like the hardest pill to swallow out of all of this. So if you, so as I said, you have this drone, basically, is this a drone that flies around your house. Or it's not just your house. It's like any network. It has to go where it needs to go, the most optimal route. So sometimes it will be like in a field.

Sometimes it would be in a woodland. Sometimes it'll just a hole in the ground. Sometimes a cave. Sometimes under a bridge. All these areas. So it's a network that goes where it needs to go, but sometimes it has to route through populated areas. And then it uses buildings.

And in fact, if you map all the haunted buildings in the UK, I mean, this is just a sample, but it makes a clear example. example, if you look, they all operate in lines and clusters, which basically mirrors our own microwave-based communication networks. Point-to-point, it works really over topology. So like relays the information? That's right. It's not a straight line.

That's right, yeah. And because it's using microwaves, it means it's line of sight, which means it's stealth, which means unless you're directing that line of site, you won't be able to detect it, which is exactly what would be good for us. Delta network. So getting back to the building with the door banging, this here is a coal shed door and this is what was banging. And while I was up here in the bedroom area up here,

now the Elefellink emissions are occurring right here on the top floor above the stairs in the attic area. So what is actually going on here? So when this sphere needs to broadcast and you've got people in the immediate area, it will bang this door because if you look at the layout of the house, the coal shed door is the most furthest part of the building like this. Right.

Leading you away. Leading you away. So what it does is it will bang the door. Everybody in the building will run downstairs to here and then hear to see this thing banging and going, what's going on? You know, it must be, you know, dead Auntie Mel, Elvis or something. And as a result, when it broadcasts, it's going through one, two, three, four walls. So the radiation has been absorbed by every single wall.

So what is doing, this is evidence of artificial intelligence. because it's basically measuring where you are and then saying, okay, you need to be over there in the next five seconds. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Everyone goes down there. How is it banging?

Is it actually like banging itself against it, do you think? I think so. So these things can pass through walls. So they've been observed to do a thing called quantum tunneling, which was observed during World War II. This is the same thing as the footh fires. So the food fires used to fly into the aircraft, fly around and then fly out again.

And they used to machine guns. them and the bullets would just pass over them or through them and they wouldn't touch them. So what it appears to be is when it needs to broadcast, it will fly over here because these things, according to the US government, these spheres can go from zero to Mac 2 in a heartbeat. So what it can do, it can fly over here, bang the door like just physically against itself, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then it will fly it back again. And then everyone goes rushing down. Once you're out of range, it brought up.

Classic decoy. Exactly, yeah. And this is, this is a rock. Yeah. So this is why Poldergeist activity all around the world has the same library of actions. It bangs doors. It makes scratches. It will throw objects, not generally at you, but sort of around you.

It will also cause fires as well. So it causes all these diversion actions to move people away from itself. So what do you make of Poultergeist activity when there's no one around? Well, I mean, it's an AI system. So it will just trigger it. It will just trigger anyone. Right. You know, it's a process that triggers.

Because I see like NESCAM videos where like a chair goes flying across the room or something. Yeah. But then no one comes to see the chair. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is, it is an RIPA system that will just trigger, you know. But if it knows it's some observation, it would probably do it anyway. Right.

If there's a camera there, it will just do it. So that's what it appears to be. And this is why people faint and feel sick in these buildings, because it's not the, it's not spirits attacking them. You're getting a raise. radiation back. Yeah, it's the electro. It's the microwave emission. Yeah. So this here is a picture. This was taken off a YouTube video I found. And these guys here were getting what is weird poltergeist activity in this building. And they looked up to the attic and they see a small silver sphere hovering in the attic. And this is exactly how it models out. So depending on the type of

building it is, the sphere will operate in one or two locations. In modern brick buildings, say like a two-floor building but a roof, it'll operate in the attic. While in wooden buildings, like in the States, you have like a single floor wooden building with a basement, it will operate in the basement itself. And it's because the basement is the most shielded part of that building. Not the, yeah, it can't broadcast in the same room. It'll use the basement. But the problem with that is those buildings themselves are actually the most active ones because you've got high energy emissions going up and down. Okay. And people are in the middle. There's a lot of actions to move these people away. Right. And that's why these buildings

are the most active buildings. Interesting. I modeled that these spheres are producing gamma radiation and microwave bursts. And this was also picked up by a scientist, Jim Seaguller. He put the sensors inside these buildings where the people were having paranormal-like phenomenon. Phenonomer. Yeah. And he picked up exactly what I said, which is. gamma radiation and microwave bursts. Effectively, what you would need to send signals. Exactly, yeah. So you ask yourself, like, what's the physical effects of gamma radiation?

Well, you have nausea and vomiting, fatigue and tiredness, headaches, dizziness, fainting, redness on the skin, irritation, weakness and lethargy, and cognitive impairment as well. All of these effects are common in people who go to paranormal locations. Right. And also common for a lot of people who interact with, like, in the abduction sphere or contactees or experiencers, you'll, you know, mirror a lot of this as well. Yeah. Just from simply the not necessarily, well, I mean, I was going to say, you know, perhaps the craft itself, but maybe that craft itself is also sending off microwave signals to something else that you're getting in the way of. Yeah, maybe.

So, yeah, when you watch these TV shows are people fainting in these buildings and they're thinking, It's demons attacking them. Right. Being possessed. It's not. You're just getting a radiation dose. It's so wild to replace demons with AI. Oh, yeah.

I think as a theory, it's really, it's really interesting. So what happened to me was I was in the 30 East Drive and I was, when that door bang was occurring, I stayed upstairs because there were other things going on in that room. And I got brain swelling. My brain started to swelling my skull. And it was terrible. Like, I didn't know what it was. at the time, but I felt with this terrible pressure in my skull. And

in three days, I went from being quite a fluid thinker and fast to really brittle and short-tempered because of how I felt, it was awful. But yeah, this is the same thing as occurred at Skinwalker ranch as well. One of them got brain swelling

when they got close to these radiation bursts. So, what's the analysis? So, what you have are these small, what I call Type 3 spheres, which are they're creating a dynamic network that basically can move around to its needs. You have a main network, which is quite rigid. So you have buildings that have been haunted for 30, 40 years constantly. And then you have the more dynamic. So you know in network in terms,

there's a thing called load balancing, whereby if the main route is too busy or it's too, or it's obstructed, it will work around it. And that's what appears to be. So the dynamic network will reroute signal. Can shift around. We shift around when it needs. So this is why new buildings with no history, with nothing happening ever. Are haunted. Are haunted.

And I actually was called to a building in London a few years ago. And this building was this house was like a $7 million house, beautiful house. And I said, oh, we just bought a place. No, we've had it for like six years, but we don't move in. It's terrible here. I thought you're kidding. And the house was, again, having politely. to be around the house. And the daughters wouldn't live there and the parents were scared to death.

But they couldn't, what are they going to do? They can't sell it. Yeah. And no one wants it. So, so yeah, that's, that's what it appears to be. So this model here, which is what I produced a few years ago, I gave this model to Senator Gillibran a year before the US-UAP hearings. And they were, From what I hear, they were all excited, all impressed, wanted meetings, and then the door slammed shut. And never heard. We even went to her office. We went to her office and said, what's going on and didn't want to know. So what it appears to be is, is, so you have the type threes down here. Which are the little ones. Yeah, these little ones. And this, this here actually represents the ground.

Sure. So these here are like 10 feet, 15, 30 feet off the ground. Yeah. operating in buildings and so forth. And then what's happening is they're linking up to the type 2. These are like larger variants of the same technology. These are the ones that people catch on videos. That's right.

And they're always over tree top lines. Basketball size. That's right, yeah. Okay. And these are about, you know, maybe two or three hundred feet, some of that. And then what happens is they link up to the even larger variants called the type 1B formation. Like giant triangular formation of spheres. That's right.

Okay. So this is this. And those are type 1, the bigger ones. That's right. I see. Okay. Yeah. So let's move on.

So these are these are here of the type 2. So as you can see, they're literally about basketball size, and they will hover above tree lines, and they operate also in lines. So you'll have maybe you have three in a line. So what it appears to be doing is that depending from the distance from the type 3 data network, which is on the ground, it then has like a low, low energy signal, which then boosts up to a higher energy signal to the type 2s, and then it really amplifies it to, you know, long distance transmissions.

So that's what that appears to be used for. Now, right away, people seeing that image that you previously had up there, you know where this is going. A lot of people go, oh, is that the boogosphere? No. Instantly, that's where people's heads are going to go. They're going to go boogosphere, bet sphere, or all these other spheres that have been caught. A lot of them, many of them in South America, but, you know, that one specifically comes up because it's been in the kind of like cultural zeitgeist recently. Yeah.

Real quick as a parenthesis, Boogosphere, what are we looking at? From what I can tell, because I had people in the lab, the moment that was, the Boogosphere was found. Yeah. And I had a real good look at it.

It wasn't me. I looked it through the cameras. Sure. Well, they sent me. And when you get a, well, from a distance, it looks pretty good. But when you get it up close, it's basically,

There's irregularities that to you depict that it's man-made. Yeah. Is that in the etchings itself or in the construction of the sphere? In both. Okay. So in the, yeah, if you look close to it, you can see where they've got like a, some sort of scraping tool to mark out the patterns. And then they haven't actually fully... Erased them out. Yeah.

So, yeah. From a distance, well, from up close, you can see it has many, any errors. So you're thinking hoax? Complete hoax. Okay. Yeah. And also on the X-ray, you see like a bell inside of it.

Yep. But what they do is in the images they put it sideways. But in fact, if you put it like vertically, what it appears to be is like a heavy weight, like a pendulum. And what it looks to be, from what I can tell, it's like a very basic stabilization unit or system. So when it flies, it doesn't pivot like this. Because it'd be on a string.

Yeah, it's on a string and this weight keeps it kind of more stable. Right, so it's not bobbing and making, yeah, oh, I see. And that would account for the impossible, like, you know, trajectory that it has because, yeah, yeah, you would think that if something was on a string, you could see clear it's on a string, but we do have technology. And, like, that's pretty primitive. That's not a gyroscope that's in there, but it's something pretty basic that would counteract or counterbalance. the sphere in those motions. Wow. Interesting. Yeah. So that, unfortunately that one... Do you think Sia?

I think, I just think it's a clever hoax? A clever hoax used for... There's a lot of attention on it. Yeah. I mean, if this is real, what you're saying now, it would be a good reason to throw, you know, throw something in the mix like that. I think so, yeah, I think it's... I think it's just the way of making money.

Yeah, fair enough. Okay. What are we seeing here? So the Stere Network, how it appears to work, is through an algorithm, which basically triggers on airborne activity that's out of place. And one of these is airshows. So when you have like unusual air show patterns, it triggers the V formations. And in fact, you can see them right here. And in this formation, it's like a triangle that's up on its side. And through the process I'll show you later, it means that it's actually tracking. knees right here. So what it's doing is saying, who are you? You know, who goes there? Yeah. And then

it's okay, you're, you're okay. And then it disappears. This is something I've seen. I remember watching videos, multiple videos of air shows and someone, because they're incredibly fast, but they're zipping by and it's clearly a metallic sphere. You're like, well, that's like not a balloon. And, you know, I'd always wonder, like, what's the point of that? Why are you demonstrating this? but this makes way more sense that it is some type of system that is just basically checking up, making sure everything's okay, because this is anomalous,

it's not a normal flight pattern, and that would make sense that the AI would pick that up. Yeah. So there's a video I'll play right now of one of those little spheres. It was recently in the UK as well, where they had the Jubilee or something. They were doing something. Oh, yeah.

They had like one of those spheres fly by. Yeah. Okay. So I noticed that there's these operating two main, configurations. So what you have here, you have the type 2 sphere here, and then you have the V formation here, and it's actually like on a flat plane instead of being up on its side. And then you have another type 2 here, and you have another type 1 V formation again on its flat plane. So what it appears to be is the mathematics, I'll show you in a minute, but in this case

is tracking two targets. And what it appears to be is that for every one type 2 sphere, it can control one single cluster of 3. So that Yeah, this was taken over Italy. Italy, I believe, yeah. Was there a sighting that day as well? Was there like another UFO in the area? I don't know. I don't know.

Because that's usually what they're there for, right? They're there to pick up anomalous aerial activity. Well, the interesting thing is from the mathematics, you can determine, well, from the formation and the distance the type on spheres are, you can actually determine the distance and location of the object they're tracking. Right. And from the direction of where they're pointing, that's right. They would like, you could triangulate where that is. That's right, yeah.

So this here took me a long time to figure out. But this is the mathematics of how the sphere network works. It's using a thing called trilateration. So this is how it basically works. You have the type 3 data network, which is on the ground here. So the sphere network, it appears to be ground-based. So it's all controlled from the ground up, which is highly likely to be underground.

So you have the type 3s are operating loads of the ground which will then link down to the servers wherever it's been controlled. Right, so there's like a type 4 perhaps even maybe. It's underground. Well, there's some sort of network.

Server or something. Yeah, server or network. So this is connecting up to the type 2 locally because it's a low energy signal to here. This is then amplifying that signal to another type 2 which is local to the type 1 v4,

And then where the type 2 is and the position of this, you can determine where the target is. You can literally draw a line through the middle of that triangle from that type 2. That's right. And find an object. Yeah, yeah. And what it's doing is a trilateration system, which is actually the same process we use for our own mobile phone tracking. Okay. Where instead of using three spheres, we're using three satellites.

Oh, wow. So it's the same kind of mathematics behind it. Interesting. But this is obviously this is a drone-based system. So yeah, so this is this system here is a very high-resolution tracking and targeting system. Okay. So hypothetically, we have some terrestrial-based intelligence doing reconnaissance and monitoring for some type of celestial body that's entering the atmosphere, potentially. Yeah, it's effectively like an air defense.

Right. To, yeah, but an air defense of foreign, not human. Yeah, external. Yeah. Yeah. So from this equation up here as well, depending on the distance of the spheres themselves, you can determine the distance of the target. The wider the things these spheres are, the wider the triangle is, the more distant, and the closer they are, the closer. Right.

And it works out to be like one to ten. So for every, like, one meter, it works out a thousand, thousand meters in distance. Okay. Yeah, it's kind of like that baseline here. So yeah, this triangle here is doing a two-dimensional scan of the sky. And then this fourth one here is doing a distance calculation. And when you fuse that data together, you get 3D tracking in space.

Interesting. Very cool. Show us some examples of this. So this was over the UK coast. And you can see the type 1v formation right here, and it's the type 2. Okay, and they're illuminated because They're powered up, they're ready to go They're ready to

What, what exactly is go mean? Well, they're ready to Fire a directed energy weapon? Possibly, yeah. Whoa, okay. Yeah. When they're, so it's strange, they seem to have a color code system

which I haven't quite worked out yet but they glow either red, green or blue. So it's almost like a traffic light system. But from what I can tell, when they're powered up like this, it means they're ready for business. Do you think we saw some of these during that drone flap in Jersey?

Oh, yes. Yeah, there's a lot of that there. Yeah, in fact, I looked at some of the footage from that and you can clearly see the formations. Formations. But what's actually happening there is you have the sphere network doing its thing, which is always the same formations and process.

But then you have other drones that are tracking it. So it appears to be to American drone, Right. Most likely fuel cell drones because they can stay up. The high-performance drones, they can stay up in the air for a long time. Yeah. And they're quick refueling as well. And they appear to be tracking the sphere network because it's going around doing it.

Right. So you've got the sphere network tracking the drones, the drones track in the sphere network, and then the sphere network perhaps tracking more of those drones and then this exponential monitoring system where we start monitoring each other. And the interesting thing is, is that the, the drones that people are seeing in over New Jersey appear to have FAA lights on them. So what it means is that the spheres are doing their own thing,

but the drones that are tracking them are using FAA lights maybe to warn off other air traffic. That's how it logically models out. Yeah, I mean, that's something, it's kind of a conclusion that I came to myself with, you know, this whole system talk was that what we were seeing in New Jersey, you know, perhaps could have initiated

with some form of non-human interaction that we had, some type of spacecraft monitoring, maybe us, you know, moving around a dirty bomb or, you know, playing around with, you know, nuclear stuff. And then that triggered, you know, a set of perhaps, you know, monitoring non-human intelligence. And then we send our monitors

and now we're just looking at like this incredible cluster. Well, it started after, Russia launched a, I think it was an ICBM. In Ukraine? Into Ukraine. Yeah. But it wasn't like armed with nuclear weapons. Right.

That's when it started. So. Yeah, because you had a lot of stuff happen at Lake and Heath at that time as well, right? Yeah. It was like a massive flap there as well. Yeah. Which, you know, probably not harboring anything now, but I, I would suspect did have some nuclear arms, you know, in and around there. probably explains Randlesham as well.

Well, if you think about it, if there is an ultra-terrestrial presence on Earth, they don't want us to go nuclear because it ruins their house home as well. Sure, yeah. So they're probably keeping a tab on things to say, that's a good reason to keep it safe. Yeah.

In fact, I've got footage recently of the type of V formations that are taking out rockets over the Middle East over Israel and Iran as well. They don't seem to pick any sized, size, they don't pick any

particular sides. Yeah. But they, but that's not the Iron Dome doing that? No, no, no, no. These are fixed triangles in the sky.

Oh, you see them. Yeah, yeah, you can see them taking out missiles. So it appears that they're keeping a lid on things. Sure.

But that's what it appears to be. So this was taken over Florida. And again, you can see the type 2 and the type 1 V formation like this.

And in this configuration, the target is at 1 o'clock. Right. And then here you've got the other ones here. You've got the V4, the type 1s here, and the type 2 is taken off a cruise ship. This one here, you can actually see the saucer is tracking as well. Where is that from, the top one? That's from there.

I can't pronounce that. It's funny. Okay, it's like either Mexico or Spanish-speaking country. This was over Barcelona. And again, you can see the daisy chaining, as I said in my model. Type 2, V-formation, 1 o'clock position. Interesting. And then here you've got multiple examples of the same thing, all over the world, all different times.

They're always in this formation. Always in the same formations. They're doing trilateration. Could some of these just be prosaic? No, no. None of these. Not one of these could be balloons, like gone off at a party or something. No, no.

This is a very distinct process that keeps replicating. So, and you base that on the measurement, the distance between the spheres and, like, there's like, it's not just like a gut shot. You're measuring these things, you're looking at these things, making sure have you found any videos where you're like, that's clearly balloons or that's clearly? Because that's important too, I think. There are people out there who do fake stuff. Yeah, but not even like even accidentally. Like if you let something go to party, some Chinese lanterns or something, you might, you know. Three Chinese lanterns in a cluster looks like a triangle, right?

It is a triangle. Yeah, but the difference is that these triangles are highly distinct, what's the word, concise triangles. Right. Which means that they are exactly the same distance apart. Equilateral. Yeah, equilateral. Because for trilateration to work, they have to be perfectly distanced. Okay.

All right. Yeah, so this one here is obviously the space explosion B-roll. I suppose you can mix it in. Yeah, put that in here. That was wild to look at. So a bit of context, this gentleman was just filming the stars? That's right, yeah. And then what can you talk us through?

So, yeah, this was filmed a telescope a few years ago. Way before any of the disclosure stuff that's happening now. I don't know if you can see that. There's something orbiting that planet over there. These more lights kind of start coming in. So that's a planet. Well, he thinks it's a planet. He thinks it's a planet.

Because it's bright and he's like, oh, there's something orbiting this planet. You can hear him saying that. I'm going to be filming that planet just right. Okay, so you can't even see it with the naked eye. That's right, yeah. All right. So that dot that was there is probably the moon or something, but what he's looking at, you can't see with the naked eye. Check this out.

And now watch this as he goes back to look at... Oh, my God. It blew up. What the hell? Something just blew the hell up. It was orbiting, and now it blew up. And it's in outer space, and it's no longer here. Oh, I see.

And in that configuration, it's in a horizontal configuration, which means it's doing downward or upward trilateration. So there's something in orbit or above orbit, even past orbit, or somewhere, that's being completely obliterated, clearly an explosion. Yeah. And he noticed, so this person reached out to you specifically, or was he just filming this randomly? No, he was just filming it randomly, and I saw it.

And because I'd noticed that the, the, the, the, the formations and then I looked at that and I saw again the V formations. Yeah. It's like, okay. There we go. So knowing the information you know, you're scouring the internet, seeing these videos, and you're going, oh, my God. Yeah. It's happening again, again, again. And it happens all the time.

Wild. And to give you a bit of context, I think it's actually very common. Let me show you. So this was filmed in my own back garden here. and you can see these bright flashes deep in space. And you can't really see this with a naked eye. You need your night scope to see this. And it's not just in the same place.

It's actually like a cluster of explosions. So yeah, I think that these flashes are those explosions occurring in space. See, to me, that could look like an airplane. Yeah, I mean, from, you know, but when you're actually filming it, I mean, this thing is so deep up in space. Right. You know, it's not. And you can't see it with a naked eye, you're saying. It's very hard to see with the naked eye.

I see, I see, okay. Interesting. Yeah. So it appears to be like there's this, this AI-based network around us that is using an algorithm to intercept and destroy external threats, including other groups that are coming here, including maybe meteorites. Including our own. And maybe our own as well. I think. Nuclear threats.

Like, I mean, if you have, what was it? the Big Sur event where they shot a rocket up. That's right, yeah. And then some, but they said a disc came around it and started zapping it and then took the rocket down. Yeah, it could, I mean, it could be a disc, I don't know. But it does appear to be taking care of, should we say, airborne threats, both from on the earth itself, like between us, but also external as well. Cool. Is that it for the slideshow?

That's it. Yeah. Well, very interesting. I mean, this stuff is very interesting. As I mentioned at the top of the episode, I've been toying with this idea of like through especially observing abductions and some of the online testimony that people have come forward with claiming to have worked on a lot of these crash retrieval stuff that it sort of behaves like a system. And if you look at the work that Skywatcher was doing, you know, in my opinion was probably also simulating war games. That's what I think. And I think that's what they were doing. Part of what they were doing aside from the psionic, you know, stuff was throwing stuff up, kind of like Skinwalker's doing.

Just like, let's blow stuff up in the air. Let's create. Look at you had, was it? Lou Alizano talked about interloper, Project Interloper, same thing, driving a nuke out into the middle of the ocean to see if they can attract these things. It seems like now

this would be pretty easy to replicate if a jet can just summon them. What's stopping us from shooting them down and looking at them closer? Well, I think they're very hard to shoot down, number one. World War II proved that. They were opening up machine guns on them, and they wouldn't fall down.

However, I do think that there has been a number of them that have just malfunctioned and landed on the ground anyway. I've been on this for a long, long time. I wrote the book, my first book in 2015, which identified these spheres and buildings. And also the V formations as well, we're now seeing in the sky, which kind of correlates with what Beatrice, Dr. Beatrice has found. well she's found triplets up in the atmosphere so we should come and going

in her slides correct those are the ones that were that she found so for for those wondering Villa Royale I think her name is Beatrice

she has put a lot of work into looking at these slides that she's taken from the past you know telescope slides I believe photos that have been taken of our sky And then noticed that a few of these bright lights would disappear when the Earth's shadow got between the sun and these objects, which if it was a star, wouldn't be the case. So that's like a smoking gun, if I understand correctly, that these things, and this is prior to satellites. This is prior to us putting anything up there.

There should be nothing up there. That's right. And yet these things are getting blocked out by the shadow of the earth. That's right. Which means they're quite local. That's right. And you're saying they're in triangular formation. Well, my model suggests, well, from my data, shows that these type 1v formations are in big triangles.

So they've been here for a while? A long, long time. Because there's images often going back for, you know, decades, if not hundreds of years. there's even pitches in religious imagery of type 1 spheres well look to be spheres in V formation

so I've been here for a long time and in fact I can kind of theoretically model how far long that'd been here because they say the type 3s are responsible for pottigice activity and that's

100% I'm actually 100% sure on that and so all you have to do is Google, when was the first recorded case of port-agais activity? And it goes back to the first century. But I mean, correlation doesn't relate to causality also. Like, I mean, there could be both, right? They could be mutually exclusive.

You know, for people thinking, like, all poltergeist activity is these type threes, there could be a mix of things happening here, too. Well, the reason why I say it's the same, because it's the same library of actions that are occurring, the same signatures. I'm not saying that all paranormal activity is a type three spheres. Just specifically. To specifically poltergeist activity. Poltergeist activity.

Huh. And so, okay, let's say for argument's sake that this is what's happening, which I feel like you've presented pretty good evidence that this points to something like that happening. Essentially, if this is true, what we're dealing with here is multiple species. species right off the bat. Because we're dealing with one species that is controlling these things, preventing another species from interacting with this planet. So at least two more species. What are your theories on what those species might be according to lore and according to, you know, a lot of the research that previous researchers have done in this space? All I can really say from a

technical point of view is, is the sphere network is controlled from the ground up, which means that there's infrastructure or a lot of infrastructure goes all around the world that controls this. In fact, under Skinwalker Ranch, when they dig down 500 feet, they're finding what appears to be materials that are consistent with, say, buildings. Yeah, like a solid object in there.

Yeah, so that's where you'd put your server rooms and stuff. In fact, I think it's probably all hidden in plain sight. So you have the main systems all under the ground, and then these other guys are probably living inside mountains or hidden inside like huge like almost like bunkers I suppose like huge cities or something inside mountains themselves I mean we have that though yeah we've got possibly hundreds of deep underground military bases

like so deep and probably a tram system that runs you know through these all so are you do you speculate that the United States government or at least some faction of it is completely aware of this system Well, I'll tell you a funny story. I was in, a friend of mine was in 30th E's Drive, and he was laying on the sofa, and he said there was a big flash. And he opened his eyes, and he saw a woman standing looking over him, and she was in uniform. And then he saw like a ball of light come forward, and big flash again, and nothing all gone.

The whole sort of event lasted maybe three or four seconds. So we did a search on a uniform and it was Space Force. Ooh. Yeah. Okay. So this was recent. Yeah. I've even heard of, I've even spoke to other like TV producers.

So what does that mean? Wait, hold on. What does that mean? Does that mean they were using the sphere network? I think Space Force is well aware of it. And I think that they probably work in tandem with them. Oh, so you think there's like some type of agreement? Yeah.

Yeah. But it must be because, well, yeah, I think they're, It has to be, yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Because now we're talking about like back into the, you know, Eisenhower days and the Griata stuff and, and us possibly having a deal with them,

you think it wouldn't have been a deal with extraterrestrials, but it would have been a deal with ultra-terrestrials? More likely than not. Some type of cave dwelling ancestor that's been here? Possibly, yeah. Reptillion, maybe? I have no idea. I have no idea.

But, yeah, all I can say is that the network control system for it has to be underground. Has to be up to date and adaptive as well. In fact, I've got images of the Tick-Tac because recently, you know, they're trying to say that the Tick-Tac is Lockheed or something like that and it's not. Right. It's not.

There's pictures of the Tick-Sack going back years, and I mean years, like decades. You can show me the, we can pull up that image that you showed me earlier? Yeah, it's in the book. Yeah, it's in the book. We'll pull that out. Okay. And what that does, what appears to happen is the network itself brings down, so to start again. So the low-tech crafts that are coming in are taken out early and you see them as flashes in the sky.

Those are the ones getting obliterated. Yeah, yeah. They're like the less advanced ones. Why are they coming here? Oh, well, we may get into that later, but. Many reasons maybe? Yeah, many reasons. Okay.

But so the lower-tech ones get taken out. distance, while the higher tech ones get closer to the earth. In the same way, a stealth fighter will get closer to a target because it can navigate through the network. Right. So the ones that are, we see come close to the ground, what appears to happen is the spheres use a swarm tactic, and they will just swarm all around it, literally sometimes locking it in midair, just like, creating like a bubble around it. And what it appears to be is it'll either, well, it appears to disable or destroy those targets that come down close. But it appears to disable them and they land mostly in the ocean.

And then what happens is a tick-tack can come in and then lock onto it, like through a thing called quantum tunnel, quantum locking. And then it will pull it out and then extract it out. And it's very, very fast. Which is actually what those pilots saw. If you remember those parts. those parts, yeah, and they said they saw a disturbance in the water and the tick-tac over the top. Yeah. And they did another swing around and it had gone.

And that's what it appears to be. It was getting ready to like grab one of those fighters? No, no, just to grab the object that was under the water. I see. Yeah, yeah. So it disables them. They land on the ocean and they get pulled out. And this is, this would be logically correct because if you have a craft that can penetrate the network, then you want that craft because you need to reverse engineer it.

you'd need to grab it, take it somewhere, analyze it, and figure out how it managed to penetrate the network. Make your system better. And then you'd act the system make it better. That's something AI. I feel like that's a very AI thing to do as well. And this kind of proves why the sphere network is current and up to date. Because if it was like any arms race, if it was old, people would just be able to penetrate it, no problem. Right.

Ooh, that's interesting. So many interesting connections that I'm hearing through this. You know, especially I'm kind of obsessed with this one guy who came out on 4chan, which is, you know, not the most reputable site to come to be a whistleblower on. But this person said he worked on these crash retrieval stuff and a lot of things that he's been saying, you know, we look back on and we're like, oh, wow, this is kind of, you know, what he's talking about. And it seems like a lot of these systems are in the ocean. Perhaps these servers are mobile. You know, for me, that would make much more sense than for it to be at a singular location. Oh, yeah.

Because there's way better places to hide. the moon, you know, under the oceans, if you had that technology. And so this thing's moving around, but it did say, he did say it was really interesting because when they try to approach this thing with like nuclear submarines, they would just get obliterated. And he means into nothing. There's nothing left. And he's like electric electronics around them, it would, in his words, it would shit on anything electronic in the vicinity. And normally it would be evasive until you cornered it. then it would just obliterate you.

And he said that if you ever did any sharp turns, that's where it would intercept. And so I thought that was interesting because now we're talking about an anomaly in pattern detection, right? So if you're just a boat going across or if you're just a plane flying across and all of a sudden you do a sharp turn, that signals to them, wait, what is that? Yeah. We got to go check that out. I'm reminded of another story. There's somebody we covered recently. Carlos de los Santos, he was a pilot in the 70s.

And there is an audio recording, it's like 20 minutes long, where three disc-shaped objects intercept his plane, one on each wing and one under him, and he feels it. And it kind of like locks him and he could, he had no control over it. And eventually they let him go. Yeah. Is that something that you feel could be part of this network? work, maybe an earlier version? No, I think that's probably some sort of extraction exempt.

So like what the Tic Tac would be doing? No, no, I think that would probably be something external coming in to try and extract something from here. I see. And then because if they go to the bother of locking onto a craft and pulling it up, why would they let it go? I mean, what would be the point? Yeah.

Only unless they're forced, right? Or unless, yeah, I guess unless they're like, oops, my bad, wrong guy. I don't think so. Yeah, it doesn't really sound. It's like any action has deliberate thought behind it. You don't think they make mistakes? The spheres. Yeah.

I think so, yeah. I think in the past they have misidentified targets. There's many, there is some footage of like the early 80s where they'll be doing in like an air show, and suddenly the wing will be torn off of a plane, and then it'll crash. Wow. But when you actually look close to the footage, you'll see these small silver balls or sphere-like objects, literally like projectile, like cannonballing through the wing. But that doesn't even happen now.

So Ryan Graves shared, this reminds me, shared a story, I believe, this year, might have been end of last year, about, a, I believe, spherical object that hit a plane. Do you remember this? It rings a bell. Yeah, he said that there was actually physical damage to, like, the hull of the aircraft. Well, I mean, the thing is, is that the type 2s, they, they, what their behavior signature is, they will hover, say, loads of the ground,

but they'll stay generally in the same place because they're creating a microwave link point to point, So they're kind of stuck in that position for a while. So if the sphere was higher, then the plane hit it, then there's a good reason probably why it didn't move. Do you think an EMP would take them down? If they're using that type of tech? I don't know. I really don't know.

I mean, I know that the spheres were all over, is it, he's row? Yeah, a few months, about a year ago. It was on the tarmac and then just shot up apparently. Well, no, even before then, they went over. Well, they blamed drones at the time. But there was this one image that was circling around of like this literal sphere. Yeah.

There were these, there was a story where two airports in the UK were locked down at pretty much at the same time. I think one was Gatwick and what was Heathrow. Right. And they blamed drones. But the military went in there with all their toys and they couldn't knock. out. Right. And these drones, I mean, the average drone has, what, a flight time of maybe 30 minutes, and then it has to land, you know, even if you've got like a stack of batteries, you have to be within that kind of radius. And then you've got to replace the batteries, put it back in

again. But these things were there for hours, hours and hours. So these things aren't commercial drones. And the military wouldn't be flying drones over commercial airspace. So the army went in there and couldn't find anything. When they got close, they disappeared, and then they came back again. Yeah, but I mean, that does, you know. What I think is happening is that the sphere network will lock down particular areas sometimes.

If there is a threat in the air, general airspace, they will lock down the, like, air traffic. Sure, to not interfere with what they have going on. Yeah, you stay down there while we deal with this. But, I mean, this gets incredibly complicated when we talk about China and Russia's capabilities as well, like, are,

like, what are your thoughts on that? Are they also working in tandem with these things? Or are they aware of it? I don't know. It would have to be. So regarding, I mean,

they were trying to say that the drones over New Zealand, over in New Jersey were Chinese drones. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense because you need to have a power source on that drone. So is it going to fly? the way to China on a lithium battery. Yeah, they said it was emanating from the ocean at one point, like some Iranian vessel or something was like the narrative, I think.

I think if there was a Iranian vessel launching drones into the U.S. airspace, the U.S. would react very quickly. I would think so, too. Yeah. But, I mean, we had also last year the big flap at Langley Air Force Base home of the most F-22 fighters, you know, that's like arguably one of the... the biggest protected military establishments or Air Force establishments in the United States. And yet for what, 17 days?

Yeah. There were things hanging in the sky. Yeah. So the power source, China can't replicate those power sources. Yeah. Or can Russia. I mean, there are things called nuclear batteries, but they're huge and they're heavy and they don't produce the output.

So the other option is lithium or its fuel cell, both of which are limited and you need to be a thing to be refueled. or replaced. So the power, the energy technology just isn't there, especially from China or Russia. Russia, you know, people talk about Russia as like a some sort of superpower. I mean, yeah, they're a nuclear superpower, but they're not doing very well in Ukraine. Yeah. Oh, right. So they're not, they're not militarily as powerful as people think, nor is China. Yeah, there's that argument of like nobody wanting to show their hand. Yeah. But also at the end of the day, I mean, that you could say that about anything. I mean, the truth is, the only, the only country in the

world that has the resources to reverse engineer or capitalize on UAP technology is the U.S. Because they've got the budget. Yeah. And they've been doing it for a long time. Potentially, yeah. Yeah, they're showing up at all these crashes all around the world too. So, yeah, these, uh, these, uh, These are when the New Jersey drones are, as I said, it's path, well, a big portion of it is a sphere network because of the formations that are repeating. And then they've been monitored by US drones. It's that simple. Hmm.

Fascinating stuff, man. This is really, really interesting. What's something that you looked at in the past other than videos that is convinced to you a little bit more about this narrative? Well, my experience inside 30 East Drive and all the haunting stuff and the patterns and what I call machine patterns, also I figured out how to trigger poli-guise activity as well in the building. Really? Yeah. Well, that's interesting. Yeah.

In fact, there's a competition out there. Like, if you can prove, like, paranormal activity or something will give you, like, 100,000 pounds. Yeah, a million dollars, James Randy. Yeah. The amazing Randy. And I contacted them. And I said my video. And they said, oh, no, you've got to have magic powers to do it.

I was like, what? You know, so I said, look, I haven't got magic powers, but I do know technically how to do it. And they said, oh, no, you got to do it via magic psychic powers. So they kind of changed the goalposts on that one. They do that, though. Yeah. So, yeah, but in a nutshell, how it works is if you put a pram at the top of the stairs in 30 East Drive, and you put a doll in it, and it will be thrown down the stairs literally once or twice a week, maybe three times a week. Why?

Because the AI is trying to... You hate babies? No, no, it's trying to, it's just trying to move your way. Right. So it's... I see. I think... Wow, that's interesting.

So how it models out is like this, is the type 3 spheres are producing high energy emissions, gamma radiation, microwave radiation, or microwave signaling to be specific. And then you have a thing called spontaneous human combustion. That's what I wanted to get into next. So if you look at pictures of people who have had this happen to them, their hands are just sit here like relaxed. Like if you're on fire, you would be like this. You'd be running around the house. Yeah, you'd be trying to fight the fire. But what's happening is, it's happening so fast that the brain isn't responding.

So you're just sitting there. Vaporize. Yeah. So what can replicate that? Well, it's high energy gamma radiation, high-enged microwaves. So what it appears to be, I mean, there's only been 200 cases of spontaneous human combustion. I think it's like, I think it's approximately 200. And there hasn't been any recent cases of it.

But there wasn't like a period of time when it was. And the way I look at it is that it almost looked like there was some sort of software upgrade that went out and then retracted. Right. Because... Yeah, like a patch.

Yeah. And so you got... We got the new expansion, the new exploding body expansion. Like, well, maybe we dial that one back a little bit. Yeah. So it's like the... You have the type threes in the building

that when they need to relay, um, instead of, instead of, uh, producing very high energy emissions, they produce poltergeist activity to move you away. And then they broadcast. But if you happen to stay in it or close to it, you either get a dose of radiation or you get a dose of spontaneous human combustion. That's what it appears. That's what it emboled out.

Yeah, they're like, ah, malfunction, someone's here, they're not moving, vaporized. Yeah, it looked like a dodgy software patch that maybe made it too aggressive or something. something and yeah. Yeah, I have no explanation for that. Like, I mean, there's no other, that's the thing. Like, that's one of the things that stuck out. I remember reading those books as a kid, you know, you're flipping through these books. You just see this, this giant burn mark on a sofa.

Nothing else is burnt around it. Just this one, you know, shadow of a human. Yeah. Or like their legs are still there or like some really strange. So it's basically directional. It's not like taking your whole body. It's just a directional beam. Yeah.

And if you look at the wall behind, you can actually see like a burn mark looks like a cross or something where it looks like almost like a laser beam's gone through them and they've caught on fire quickly and burnt out and burn the wall as well. What other paranormal... Just to back up a bit.

Yeah, go ahead. This is why in polyguised activity, they cause fires. It's the same thing. It's microwave radiation, gamma radiation. It's pyrochinesis. Yeah, it's causing fires. Oh, that would make you run to another room. Yeah.

That's for sure. And so would throwing your baby down the stairs. Yeah. Yeah, it's not, it's not, you know, it's not a pleasant thought. But it's, uh, if you do that, it will trigger multiple times. In fact, there was a few, about two years, a year and a half ago, something, there was, I was in 30 years drive and three major poli-guise effects occurred. The same, the same event happened three times.

times I got it to replicate three times. That night there was meteorites exploded over the UK. So it's kind of thinking, okay, in my mind, when you're having poltergeist effects, it means a network is at work, is producing signaling and emissions and so forth. And then you've got these meteorites exploding over the UK, the same line, within hours. So you're thinking, okay, that to me looks like they were intercepting there. Are there more of these correlations between like perhaps, famous crashes and hauntings. Are there any other examples where you're like, oh, you know, this is the day that this happened, but also something else? Not the moment.

That's an interesting place to look. Yeah. I mean, I can start correlating that maybe. What other paranormal events can be linked to this sphere theory? So when I was doing my testing, I noticed, I set up a test. where I stuck a like a GoPro camera on a picture or like a glass pitch, you know, like a glass surface. And this was using like a proper GoPro adhesive,

so it was really strong. Like you couldn't get the damn thing off if you tried. And I put it on there and I went outside. And I had a flash in my literally like a vision in my head of looking at it. Like clear as a bell, like I'm looking at you. It was clear as a bell. And once I saw it, and literally it like that, it flew down the stairs and hit the ground.

Like, popped off the wall, like, poof. So that's, like, totally against physics. And I don't know how it was done, because you look at it. It looked like it was, the adhesive was neutralized or something. I don't know, but it literally just popped off like a cork. And so it's like they can look at something and sort of send a signal to your brain, and you can see it as a vision, something like that. So it's like they can send you signals and you can see as a vision.

It's kind of like correlates with like religious texts because people are having visions. You know, they have visions of something and they worry about it. So maybe. So there might be a possibility they can interface with your mind somehow and project thoughts and imagery to allow you whatever it takes to get you out of that room or to get you away from the emissions that they're throwing your way. Yeah. Or to maybe let you know that they're annoyed with you about something. You know, it seems to be, yeah, they appear to have that, I believe. Right.

So if you're in the way of their path and if you just hold fast, you're saying you'll probably end up sick or you'll probably end up, you know, there would be activity all around you and you'll probably end up ill. Yeah. In fact, the sad truth is, is mental illness is rampant. in the paranormal community. It's rampant. People don't want to admit it, but that's the truth. The, the, the biggest, where it's all gone wrong a little bit is the UFO community hasn't spoken,

don't engage with the paranormal community. Yeah, not so much. Yeah, because, and they are set in their minds that this is all dead people and spirits. Right. And then you have the UFO community who are very skeptical and aliens and stuff. Yeah. So they don't really cross, cross bridges very much. But that's what I kind of did.

I crossed the bridges and then trying to figure out the connections. Like a unifying theory? Yeah, yeah. And, but yeah, that's a sad truth. There's a lot of mental illness in the paranormal community. Were you always interested in this sort of stuff? No, no. What initiated your interest in here?

Did you have an event? Yeah, yeah. It's quite a funny one looking back. I mean, I, well, I grew up in a UFO hotspot. And it just became normal, really. Roswell? No, no, in Cambridge. Like a little village in Cambridge.

And I used to walk home at night and see these like golf, like basketball sites, not basketball, baseball. Baseball. Baseball size, like glowing pearls of light, I used to call them, just going over the streetlights. And I didn't know what they were. I used to see them. And I was like, oh, you know. And it used to be on a regular schedule as well. They used to be like every Friday night around about 11 o'clock.

And they probably still do, to be honest. I just haven't been there at the time. But I used to see them, I would say, 1.73 weeks, something like that. And then, you know, I had some paranormal experiences, I suppose. Like, I was around my friend's house. And he had, like, a middle flat. Like, it was like a big house in the middle, the middle section was his flat. And the one above was empty.

And the one below was a workshop. And we'll be sitting there playing PlayStation, you know, and late at night. And you'd hear, you know, like people stumping across the ceiling. Above you. Yeah. You're like, oh, who's up there? You know, it's probably got, you know, someone's broken in or something. And you go up there, there's no one there.

And it happened multiple times. And then, I mean, I also had a funny one where I went down to the local village, like a pub. There's like a little social club. And I was actually waiting for it to open. it was like 7 o'clock in the evening. It was like late summer. And I was just sitting on the swing minding my own business, really. And I just looks over to the left and saw this guy literally about 30, 40 feet away from me,

something like that in a monk outfit. And he had his hood up and it's all buttoned up. And I thought it was just like a local nut job who was trying to take the piss. Yeah. He was having a joke. So I just started shouting at him. what do you do in your twat? You know, like, you know.

Yeah, yeah. What are you doing? You do, and just stood there like a statue. And so I had a laser pointer in my pocket at the time they were all the rage, you know. And I had like a little red laser pointer. And I put a laser on the ground. And I remember it going on the grass and then going up his leg onto his chest and into his face. But he had like a hood up.

Yeah. And it was just like a black mass where his face was, just like a big black mask. And I put it right in this face. like this, because this wasn't like a, like a 10 second experience. Yeah. This went on for about two minutes. And I had it like that, like, eh, like that in his face, trying to get a reaction out of him, just stood there like a statue.

In fact, when the laser hit the face, it went half to his brightness. Huh. Which was weird. I was like, oh, that's weird, because it was bright on the ground, really bright, and then real dim. Um, so I jumped up and I decided, because this is like my hometown, my home village, where I grew up and it's almost like he's intruding in my back garden kind of thing. So I just like, oh, you know, fuck you. I'm going to have a look at you. So I jumped up and I started walking towards

him. And I got within, I don't know, 10 feet maybe, disappeared. No way. Yeah. And that kind of got me a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah. I'd be shitting my pants. I was like, you know, I was like a little bit uneasy. But I said, okay. Because that's not uncommon for, I mean, it's funny because I was just reading about a case yesterday, but I mean, we had John Ramirez here, who is, you know, X-CIA signals intelligence guy who said that multiple times he'd have these hooded beings wearing these robes in his room, like these monk robes. Absolutely. Oh, wow. The monk robes shows up a lot. Really?

Oh, yes. Oh, I never do. Oh, my God. It is. Yesterday I was reading a case on Peter Curry, Australian guy who's had, you know, a run in with some, like, hybrids trying to seduce. It was a whole story. He had DNA evidence, by the way, of this. Like, he had a strain of their hair.

But prior to that, yeah, beside his bedside, he had, again, these hooded, robed figures. I can probably cite five or six off the top of my head that all have monk robes. Yeah, I never knew that. And a variety, like, a varying number of species underneath them, from mantis to reptilian to gray to, like, gorilla type. very strange, but so many people report, there's a few different uniforms that people report during abductions.

There's like your typical onesie with like a belt and an insignia uniform type deal. There's military garm. There is lab coat stuff, but then there's the ropes. And the robes are very, very prevalent in euphology. So, yeah, you should look into it. Yeah, I didn't even knew that. You might have been shining the light in the wrong direction. Yeah. Because all I just went to, after I saw that and it disappeared,

I just went to a local pub and it was open. It opened. And I just said to the locals, you know, the old pensioners who just worked the land and stuff. So I just thought I saw a guy over there dressed to the robe or something, you know. And he went, oh, yeah, that's the mad monkey haunts here. I was like, what? Yeah. And I'd never heard.

And I haven't seen it since. before, before that, all since. So, like a one-off, very distinct event. But that's what kind of got me interested in it just kept bugging me. And the thing is, over the years, so I started watching, like, paranormal

TV shows, the mainstream stuff, like in the UK, we had, what was it called, Most Haunted, and the US got ghost adventures. But none of it jelled with me. None of it made any sense. I mean, coming from, like, a technical background, and I'd see and stuff, I thought, look,

what are you talking? about. Yeah, ghosts wasting their time, knocking over flowers. Like, what are you doing? And I had to love, there was one case. I forget what TV show it was. It was one of those. Where this woman, this family were reporting a haunting in their house.

And so the story at the beginning was some guy died there, as it always is, right? But then after they did some research, they found out that no one died there. So this paranormal team, this famous paranormal team, like looking all confused. Yeah. And so what they did is they get on the gate, got in their car and went down the road to find another house where someone happened to die and said, oh, we think it's this guy who just drops by and, you know,

well, that's funny. Because then it would look like a hoax if there's no dead body. Yeah. That's interesting. And the thing is, is the problem with the mainstream paranormal is that they, it's the same, it's the same, there's no real investigation. It's a ghost train ride

where you go into and go boo and then you run out the other end and nothing really happens. They make up, they know, they come up with some history and then it goes to next location. But the problem is, is that because you're not dealing with dead people, you're dealing with

these spheres, right, type three spheres, and they're producing these emissions. They have a negative effect on your health. And a lot of these people, these ghost hunters and stuff, they're now, you know,

either cognitively or physically impacted by the emissions. But obviously they blame demons. Do you think Havana syndrome could have something to do with this? Yes. So.

Because you had the Cuban missile crisis, which it might be a reason for the spheres to be present. So I'll tell you a story. So what it appears to be is that the type three spheres, they have obviously a very exotic propulsion system, and they appear how it models out, at least, to have like a radiation effect,

have some sort of radiation byproduct. Sure. The problem is that we can't detect it, right? And I say this because people have taken stones off the drive, of 30 use drive, and they take them home, and their house becomes crazy active. And they send those stones back in the post, saying, with a letter saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Wow. Yeah.

And you wouldn't believe, I didn't believe. What's the reason there? So what I think is happening is that the type 3 is obviously producing like a radiation byproduct, which is contaminating everything from the stones to the objects in the building. But an undetectable radiation byproduct. I think so. Right. And then when it's being moved to another.

location, the type 3s in the area can detect it, and then what they're doing is they're performing scarecrow actions around it, the objects, to get rid of, to get people to get rid of it. Keep you safe. And in fact, I think that, like, old occults, occult practices used to have noticed this behavior. And what they used to do is take objects from these buildings and put them in other people's houses. Like they were put them under the house. Under the bed. Under the beds or under the bed.

And then, and back then it was a curse. Yeah. You know. Huh. And I think that's, that's where they, they kind of got it from. Oh, like cursed items would have been, yeah, would just have been some type of radioactive material. Yeah. And there was, there's another case I heard of, which is actually in my book, the first one, where this family, they bought a bed, like a bunk bed, wooden one.

And it was like a secondhand one. And they'd put it in the kids' room. And the kids all started screaming. Ah, someone died in that bed. The kids all started screaming saying they hearing voices and things are moving around and their room and stuff and they're panicking. So the parents stayed in the room and they saw the same thing. So they got rid of the bed.

They burnt it, got rid of it. It all stopped. Yeah. So if the bed is contaminated with this radiation and then the spheres go in there and tell people to go away, then that's, and then you get rid of the bed and it all stops. Right. So that appears to logically connect. That's interesting.

Yeah, it is interesting. Like, I mean, you've opened up a whole new world of exploration, which I think is really commendable and really fun, you know, as a researcher to look into because we're often, you know, turning stones that have been turned over a thousand times and reading old cases. But, you know, part of the fun for me is looking at these old cases through a new lens, regarding, you know, if we have new information, namely some whistleblower comes out, taking that information and holding it up against all of these other previous cases and how it correlates,

this just adds to that a little bit more, I think. And it's a, it creates, if nothing else, it creates just a valid theory that we can now apply until perhaps it gets broken because the next theory comes along. But this is really, it's really compelling. Well, yeah, I mean, the thing is that the sphere network itself is creating the same formations all around the world. It's the same mathematical process. Right. And from the formations itself, it's possible to reverse engineer mathematically what they're doing. And they're doing a thing called trilaturation, which is a mathematical process of targeting objects in space.

Yeah, it's how we do it. It's how they would do it. Yeah. But it also seems like this evolves, obviously, like you'd mention, like some type of hatch update. The material perhaps evolves. Everything optimizes just like you would if you were in war or, you know, a warlike scenario, you would continuously update and upgrade your, you know, your fleet.

Yeah, I think there's, I think like any network of deployment, you have the new stuff and the old stuff. Yeah. You know, it's a blend. So you'll see some spheres that look a little bit different than others. there's one out there like a Cuban sphere Yes that one

But I mean That one appears to act like the type two Because it's always like At that kind of altitude And it sort of hangs around like that I think again And say you've got the old and the new

And I think The older stuff is slightly bigger And maybe chunky I suppose And the newer stuff is more streamlined But they all seem to have the same They all operate the same roles So you have to type threes

that are in the buildings. You have the type 2s that are above the tree lines and then you have the type 1 V formations. Do you think we're in hypothetical territory at this point?

Visitors coming from the outside are also deploying and sending drones here? Highly likely. And then our drones are just interacting with their drones because a lot of these bodies, again, they don't have genitalia,

they seem like biological drones. Highly, likely, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what we would do. I mean, if you look at robotics now, we'd like Tesla bot, for example, give that another 10 years. Sure.

That would be, I mean, I know that Ilong's sending them to Mars. Yeah. So we would do the same thing. That's interesting. Yeah, I'm just trying to think back on like all these different scenarios and all these different morphologies or, you know, sort of phenotypes of like all these aliens. and how that would work. Because if you look at the 1970s,

like generationally and even through the decades, the species have changed, right? So the phenomenon, modern phenomenon, started with the crash in Roswell due to, you know, a lot of the nuclear testing that was being done there. And then from there, we started seeing these type 1, type 2 EBEs, which are these either big black eyes, you know, short guys or like always the big bulbous heads and these little creatures. But then as you move

into the 60s and 70s, we're starting to get humanoid-looking species. We're getting the tall blondes, large foreheads, benevolent fish bulls on their heads for some reason, wearing blue tights, flying saucers, that whole deal. And then after that you go into the 80s and 90s, now it's like purely gray. All grays, no genitals. I keep talking about, I'm not obsessed with their genitals, which I think is an interesting, you know, physiological trait. But we see this, right? And now into the 2000s, it's more of this hybrid talk. So I'm just trying to figure out how the spheres fit into all of that. Well, all I can say from a technical point of view is, um, that we found spheres in these buildings, the type 2s and the type 1b formations, and they keep

replicating. In fact, I would say it's the only data out there that, with UAP data out there, that repugates. That's constant. Constant, yeah. And I think when Beatrice can do more data analysis on what's happening in the atmosphere, she'll probably find the same thing. I mean, that's my opinion. That's your opinion.

I can't speak for her, but that's my opinion. I'm 99.9% sure you're going to find triangles. You're very high conviction that this is what we're dealing with. Regarding all the other stuff, like the different groups and stuff, I have no idea. Yeah, because there is, there is, you know, circumstantial evidence in sort of, you know, stories, essentially, of all these other things that does paint a picture as well. So what percentage of the phenomenon do you think is? due to the system that you're talking about? I would say the sphere network is responsible for about 90% or 80% of paranormal effects.

Of paranormal effects. Because Poldegis are the most common. Sure. They're definitely the, obviously the type 2s that are and the V formations are seen everywhere. So, yeah, I mean, from a data point of view, it is pretty constant. As I said, regarding the other groups and what people are seeing, I really don't know. Yeah, you're not ruling it out. You're just saying it doesn't.

I don't know. It could be multi-tiered. It could be. Yeah, that's what I think too. It could be very multicultural. You know, it's highly likely, I don't know. But, I mean, one thing I can kind of say is the image in the book I got. So I kind of figured, okay, well, if this is like an ultra-

terrestrial group doing this. Where did they live? You know, where are they? So I found a woodland in the UK where they've had lots of reports of paranormal activity. So I kind of thought, well, you know, maybe that's the type three is playing games down there and team was going on. So the woodland is very distinct because there's a tunnel that it funnels through.

So in order to get into the woodland, you've got to go for a tunnel. So I went to that tunnel. And it's a good 15-minute hike into the woods. And we set up our cameras there, and I kind of created what they call a dog whistle as well, which I've made public and people are getting good results with it. So I set that up as well. What is the dog whistle consist of? So there's two of them.

One is like a strobe, and the other one is binary, binary coach. Okay. Yeah. But we can talk about that in a minute. so what we did was we were filming in this tunnel and some of the sensors went off but we didn't see anything, didn't feel anything, nothing, you know.

So went home, looked at the footage. And the footage is, it was at 60 frames a second, 4K, no, sorry, 2K, 2K, 60 frames a second. And we saw something like a figure. And when we boosted it up, you see what looks to be like a large gray kind of guy with big teardrop eyes. And he walks up to the strobe, looks down, looks at us, and carries on walking. And when you do the calculations, this was all captured in about 10 frames or at 60 frames a second.

So you think, okay, well, how does this work? You know, how can something be that fast? So the only thing I can kind of compute is these guys are using a form of localized time dilation, which means that they can press something on their watch or something like that. But it creates like a bubble of time around them, like a distortion. And we're all in freeze frame. Yep. We're like in freeze frame like this.

And they're just walking around. And it's all happening between the frame rate of our eyes. Yeah. And I think this is why. So I went to think about That's probably the perfect defense If you're going to walk around You know the shaved monkeys

That's what you would use Because nothing can touch you You can walk between bullets Yeah You can fight it you know Yeah like the old The old adage of When you

Where Neo becomes the one He's like you won't need to dodge the bullets anymore No that's right And that's what it appears to be And it's a crazy thing way to perceive it. But to do that, the technology to do that and the energy to do that

is off the scale. But that's what appears to be. And it kind of explains a couple of things because there are people who are experienced hunters who go out into the woods and they disappear. And it's like, well, okay, well, if you happen to be in their territory with a

gun and they cross your path, you won't even see them coming. No, it would be over in a second. You wouldn't even... spontaneous combustion. Well, you know, you, they can come up, look at you in the face, and walk off, and you wouldn't even see it.

Sure. And I think this is why people go missing in these woodland areas. Sure, like the missing 4-1-1. There's also an interesting thing as well. You might notice on the internet now, a lot of videos of people who go camping in woodlands to be woken up late at night and people walking around their tent.

Yeah. And it's like in the middle of nowhere. You know, and it freaks them out so much they get off and run. I think if you're camping in their territory, then they're going to tell you to go. Because one thing I noticed in the image is that the size of the eyes, the eyes are very large and very large pupil as well, which replicates the animals that are nocturnal.

Right. So these guys are probably nocturnal. And they see in the dark as clear as we see in the day. So it's highly likely that they operate at night and we have the day. There's a lot of cases of all of that, especially with the gray types, where they, the time dilation thing is very, very real. I mean, there's so many cases. There's a guy in Chile, forget what his name was, but he was with a group of six people, military guy, disappeared for 15 minutes, came back with a four-day old beard. Wow.

And the watch said four days later, too, on his watch. There was a lady who, I think during her abduction, she witnessed the grass growing between her toes. There was, if you look at Ariel phenomenon, the children looking at the beings that were up on the craft, floating on the craft and jumping. They were moving in slow motion. They were described. But there's other people witnessing beings aboard crafts that are moving, like, glitching, like moving super fast. And so again, this time dilation thing, I mean, even if you look at Bob Lazar, Bob did tests with the amplifier, the gravity amplifier. And when they were able to focus this gravity amplifier on a single point, they would put a candle in there.

And the candle didn't flicker, yet it emitted light. That's right. It just froze. Which is very strange. So, you know, that technology would, yeah, obviously not only be present in the propulsion system, but. all of their other, you know, military tech that they're using to, you know, remain stealthy or whatever. One thing, what happens when we're doing our dog whistle test. So the stroke, what it does, it's a coded stroke.

And it is designed to trigger the response of Sears. So what it really means is that you can go to, say, up a mountain, upper hill. And that's what we did. We went 3,000 feet up a hill in Manchester. And there's no phone signal, there's no one there, it's like, you could be on the moon, you know, it's that remote. And you switch the strobe on, and within 15, 20 minutes, you're picking up strange voices on your camera. Right. You're getting weird electronic effects.

Paulyguise activity starts happening, like stones thrown against walls. People are seeing shadows go by. But one thing stands out is that it all goes for it. quiet. Yeah. There's no... No crickets, nothing. Nothing.

Yeah. Which is time dilation. Right. Because you're literally being slowed down. And all the, all the animals just go quiet. I had a, I did a podcast with a guy named Darren Bousman who's here. He was the director of Saw, two, three, and four. Big horror fan, right?

Obviously. He's done a whole bunch of horror films. So we do this one movie called 1111. And he shot it in, near Barcelona, in space. and he rented this old house. And when he, when he wanted the house, the caretaker was like, no, not this one. You know, you got to find another house. He's like, no, this is the house.

I want this is an old Victorian house by the scene. Beautiful. And so the caretaker takes in there, he doesn't go inside. He's like, you can go ahead. You can go outside. And he's like, no, this is perfect. And it was actually, and there's books up here, I have, Umo. It was a place, a gathering place for people to get together to discuss the papers of

Umo. Umo was this, you know, these thousands of papers spread across Europe. Apparently, you know, these aliens were communicating physics, sociology, cycle, all of their knowledge to humans. And they would get together and read this stuff. Super bizarre stuff. But he got a super eerie feeling while he was there. He's like, oh, there's, you know, the girl died in the basement. They buried her body.

Like the whole, you know, the paranormal lore that exists. But the day they got there, first of all, half the crew got sick. Like, ill, ill, ill. His wife took one of the symbols off. And she that day, that night, was in the hospital. Throwing up fever, like so many people. But not only that, at one point, there's a guy that come in and he's like, hey, what's going? One of his friends.

And right where he was standing the chandelier drop. right where he was like there was in the actual movie in the actual movie the shutters in the back of the house raise up they those shutters were tied you had to do it from the outside and they were tied down and nailed like they didn't touch those shutters and in the shot so people thought they were there was a practical joke happening um and then finally there was an incident where they were editing in the editing room and they had to scrap a whole take because there was like just some random screaming. And they're like, we were filming this.

Nobody would have been screaming. We would have yelled cut. But there was some audio bleeding. So a lot of this paranormal, which I'm thinking now, is really interesting. And that house was known to be haunted. So that might have just, and it was by the sea. It was right in front of the ocean. Yeah.

So you think about that. There's, yeah. But that sounds like the type three is real pretty from there. Because what the sickness would be radiation sickness. EvPs are actually produced by the type three. I'll tell you how... Evp, the voice stuff. Yeah, yeah, I tell you how I figured this out is.

So I noticed that from the recordings I had at 30s Drive and my own house as well, because it followed me home as well, I noticed that it was snippets of sound that were blended together. Right, so if you can imagine like a machine sampling, say, two words off a TV show. and then it will sample some other words and some other words. And it blends them all together. And then when you put that through an audio package to really look at the waveform,

you notice the errors. It's like an AI that is cutting up bits of audio and then reconstructing it to then give you a message. And the interesting, it does it very fast. It does it really fast, but it's rough. And also, what's interesting is when these guys go to quantitative building, And they say, oh, you know, this has been haunted for 500 years like in Castle, but they're getting EVPs that are in English. Right. Like current English language, not like old-la fashion language.

Right. It's because they're sampling the current noise. Yeah, the AI is updated. Yeah. Interesting. You see. So that's, and what it appears to be is, is, so the spheres are producing like a directed radio wave that is. is going on to the circuit of the recorder or the camera,

which has been picked up as electronic crosstalk. Right, so you're not actually hearing it. So we can't hear it, but it's been picked up on the circuit. And that's why the cameras pick it up. That's cool. I'm going to tell him that. He's going to get a kick out of this episode, too. It's been a big thorn in his side for a while.

And funny synchronicity he called me the other day, and he was in a, I think he went to like Palm Springs or something. And his wife speaks Spanish or Catalan. And they were having a conversation with this couple beside them. That was also the gentleman was also from Spain. He's like, oh, I'm from Barcelona. And the guy goes, yeah, I just watched this podcast about Umo. And he watched his podcast.

It was like a whole synchronous event that happened. But very interesting stuff, Patrick. I'm going to go turn on the camera back here. And we're going to do some audience questions. All right. So for those that are new here, joining the membership, not only gives you access to Sony things. We got movie night.

We got extra episodes. We got all this stuff. But it also allows you to have a chance to ask our guest some deep, meaningful questions. So pull that up now. First one here. Now, a few of these I didn't write the names for because the questions were a little too long. But this one was from a picture of secret tunnel. that's his name and I'll

there you go and used against us well any any machine or any system can be hacked but it's probably highly unlikely that we could be able to do it highly likely that it's highly

encrypted so probably it is technically possible but unlikely unless it's some other hyper advanced civilization doing the hacking. Potentially, yeah. Ominous, ominous answer.

Again, I'm sorry if I don't name you because we had like, I think it's 142 characters max on these things and I don't have room to put people's names. This one I think is from Helder, Halsan, our moderator on our Discord channel. He says, how do you distinguish if an electronic malfunction is true paranormal influence or just an error or technical. So meaning when you're getting some type of signal or mixed signal, like is there any way for you to distinguish between, you know, what could be considered like a prosaic normal technical error,

or it's them? Is there any signature that you're looking for specifically? No, I mean, all you really see from an observable position is the Parano, or Poldegyce effects. if it's an error or not, I don't know. There's no way of distinguishing. Well, there probably is. I mean, if you had like radiation and microwave detectors in the building

and there wasn't any signals flying around and it was doing it anyway, I mean, maybe that could be an error. A technical error, I see. Yeah, maybe. But in order to do that, you'd need to say you need a good sensor array around the building. And then you'd need a data. base to record all that data. Right.

Then you'd need AI to analyze that data and then to come up with patterns or. What's your optimal setup then? Like, let's go down here. Let's say, okay, you got a billion dollars. And I want you not only to unequivocally prove that this is a real phenomenon, I want to take one of these things down. I want to get them on every single, you know, intelligence gathering platform that I have. Where do you go and what do you do?

So first you have to set up a monitoring system. So you would put up sensors in every single very active building in the country. They would then connect to like a Postgres database, which would then have collect data for maybe six months, something like that. Then you'd have AI to run against it, to look for patterns and processes. From those patterns, then you can try and reverse engineer what they're doing, if it's encrypted, if it's not, there might just be numbers, telemetry data, you know, it's hard to say. And then what you do is you would then do signal warfare, so you would inject your own signal into it to then provoke an action.

By using what their patterns were, you'd be able to replicate it. That's right. In fact, Skinwalker is, I know from Skinwalker that they are, when they do their tests, I think is when, because we picked up 1.6 gigahertz. Really? Yeah. and 1.72 gigahertz inside 30th drive, burst relay. Well. Exactly as effects were actually occurring in the building as well,

which matches what's happening at Skinwalker. So it's the same type street sphere as a Skinwalker as it is and in 30thrive. And what they are recorded at Skinwalker is, when they artificially produced the 1.6 gigahertz, I think this is true. They're getting a signal back. They're sending one and they're getting one back. So in my mind, what you'd do is you would say, okay, that's like a, that's like a trigger.

So that's like, they're sending an action, they're getting a wrong response. So what you do is you record the response and you basically have your AI in Skimwalker trying to talk to their AI. You know, so you send a signal, get a response. Oh, try another signal, get a response. And you let the two AI start talking to each other. And that's how you would kind of break into it or all kind of start cooperating. racing with it or whatever you want to communicate with it. Doing big fireworks in the sky,

this is good for the cameras, but it doesn't really do any good. Sure. But you could theoretically do the same to any haunted building as well. As long as you have an array of sensors and record the data, you can start finding the code and the protocols and start injecting your own signals into it. Cool. I would love to see that happen.

Maybe in our lifetime. This is from Tess, I believe. Yeah. Okay, I'm getting this right. Srites, what's the most probable morphology of the ultra-terrestrial subsurface species controlling the network of spheres? Well, in order for the sphere network to operate, it needs underground servers and networks, which are kept up to date, is probably all here. hidden in plain sight, inside mountains. In fact, there's been footage recently of spheres coming out of mountain sites as well. And so it appears to be all in plain sight.

So what does that mean? What's their morphology then? What does that point to? What species are we dealing with according to what we know? What does it point to? Well, they're probably just much smarter versions of us. So hominid, human. Yeah.

Human looking? Human looking, yeah. Ooh. But just probably much smarter level. The thing is... So like some breakaway civilization that's been here for a longer time, you think? I think they've been here since the beginning. Right.

I think what it is. So how it models out is the spheres are like level one and two defense, right? So you might have the ones in space. You might have, and you have the ones in the atmosphere as well. But then you have us that are on the surface, right? which makes us the third line of defense, right? So. Not a very good one.

Yeah, I mean, it's not very, it's not the brightest of ideas or the most nicest of ideas. But the, you've got to, okay, let's look at humans. We are hybrids of primates, right? So what's the point of making a hybrid of a primate? Well, a primate is very strong and very fast and very survivable, very aggressive as well. So what we are is an aggressive or an aggressive, aggressive, intelligent primate. Right?

So if you want a third line of defense, you would want something like an intelligent monkey to protect the surface. And in fact, I think, because if you look at the skill set of humanity as a whole, regardless of location or IQ level, we're all good at killing things. It's just the West is good at killing, better at killing than other countries. But we're very good at killing things.

And that's what it appears that we are the third line of defense. So if something crashes here, we are the ones who deal with it. We're the bigger, stronger versions of them. It's highly likely that they're much smaller than us and weaker, but smarter. But we're bigger and dumber.

Right. You know what I mean? Okay. Like a meat shield. Yeah, like a meat shield. And I don't like that. I know. I'll be honest.

That's, that's, I don't like that one bit. But I think actually that the dinosaurs were the original. The original meat shield? The original. Because if a craft crashed on dinosaur earth, you know, back in those days, you wouldn't last very long. Right. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But it's highly likely that due to the animalistic nature. of the dinosaurs and predatory nature, that they were probably chasing down the ultra-terrestrials as well. So because they're just aggression, pure aggression, right? So it's in my mind, at least, we're the replacements. Yeah, I do think the idea has legs, especially considering that you're safer underground.

Indeed, yeah, you can control the access point. Yeah, and if you want to, you know, have a longer-lasting species, you would live underground. Yeah. You know, you can, no natural disaster is going to get you. No nuclear fallout is going to get you. No asteroid is going to kill you. A smarter species would have a less fun life.

Yeah. A more optimal species would have a less fun life. But that also tells me that they aren't, that they might be AI themselves. It's highly likely that they've also fused with AI. Yeah. Because if, you know, only AI would be like, it's optimal to be underground. And we're like, you know, that human passionate spark that we have, we're like, yeah, but we can also enjoy the sunshine. Yeah.

You know. But the problem with that is the... Unless they're aliens from the UK, in which case they don't mind so much. I mean, the problem is, because we live on the surface and we produce all these high energy emissions that are going into space, we are we are announcing where we are exactly to trillions and trillions of solar systems with trillions and trillions of planets. Right. it takes is one of them to say, oh, you have something we want. You know, so, I don't know, the odds are against us. The dark forest theory.

Yeah. And I think, I think that's why the sphere network is doing what it's doing. But also, I mean, the sphere network explains a few other things, like it explains the family paradox. You say, where are all the aliens? Well, the network keeps the bulk of them out. Then it explains poltergeist activity and explains spontaneous human combustion. all in one. So it

does tick a lot of boxes. But yeah, I mean, from the image I got from my test, these guys are nocturnal and because of the size that arise. And they would be suited underground because it's darker. Right. Yeah.

Interesting. We got one last one here and this one is from Gina, I believe. It's a good question. It says if Earth is protected by, which is like a security software. And humans are the criminal element. Who installed it and when do the police arrive? So again, it kind of answers what we just went over. Yeah. But yeah. I mean, I'm not saying that humans are a criminal element, but we serve a role. We have a role on the system. Yeah.

In the same way that we don't talk to primates. I don't, I think these guys don't talk to us. And I think that's the block in politics as well. Like Trump said recently that he wish he could tell us, but it's not his decision, which means it's their decision. Because the thing is, if you've got, if the average IQ of these guys is say 200, 250, what have they got in common with us? Most of the average IQ on Earth is between 50 and 100. You know, so they, we would not serve any purpose to them in their lives. In the same way a primate has no real purpose in the human domain other than being in the zoo. Right. You know, so. So by that kind of logic, they probably say, look, you perform a role.

You're there to do a role for us and we'll just carry on doing what we do. So the future for humanity, as I explained it in my book, is that we have to fuse with AI. It's non-negotiable. We have to do it. So what it does is the human brain currently is currently the manager and processor. Well, what will need to happen is the brain will become the manager, but the AI will become the processor. So it means that we can all jump up to like 250, 300 intelligence level, IQ level. When you jump up to those levels, then suddenly you're much more compatible with these other groups.

Yeah. And then it's like, okay, now you're smart enough. Now the gates will be opened because now I can talk to you as an equal. Yeah. I get that from a logical, intelligent, you know, sort of point of view, but I don't get it from a human perspective. You know, that's the part that I fail to, like, gel with, is this idea that in order to survive, we have to give up what makes us human.

Well, I don't know if we have to give it up, it just makes us smarter. I don't know. Maybe the smarter you get, the more cynical you become, the more colder you become. I think so. Maybe. You know, if you look at computers, they don't really care. They feign, you know, emotion. Yeah.

Whereas, you know, emotion drives a lot of our decision making. And that is part of our downfall. I do understand that. But also, it is what makes us unique on this planet. I mean, this is what NeurLink is all about, really. This is the main mission of NeurLink. because you're interfacing the brain to a high-speed interface to AI intelligence. That's the overall vision of it.

Yeah. Yeah, but I wonder, like, there's got to be, you know what I mean? Like, if that's all life is, just to prolong and extend our physical, you know, existence, it seems a little silly, you know, considering the vast. of the universe and space and time itself that we're just trying to prolong this little blip that we're here for. It seems like whatever it is we're here for serves a greater role beyond the physical, you know. It could be, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, logically, it just maps out that way. Yeah, right. And, you know, I do my best to keep away from emotional logic because it's blurry.

but the black and white cold logic in my head just models it out like that and that's what I think yeah but that also means you assume that their their number one priority is survival that's your assumption

well I mean that might not be true I mean they're saying that Mars was destroyed by a nuclear event recently they said I think on the news the day that there's evidence to suggest that Mars was attacked by nuclear weapons. So maybe if, you know, maybe they are just worried about survival, you know,

maybe it is that way. I think even President Trump said the space is the domain of war. So it could be that the night sky is, or those stunning it as it is, is just like the ocean. You know, where it is highly dangerous. Lots of animals, lots of predators, lots of all sorts. Teaming with life.

Yep. Yeah. I mean, you know, the theory does answer questions, but it definitely sparks a whole new debate on so many more questions that are out there. Oh, completely. But one thing I can say is that the work that's been presented in the book is testable. it can, all it needs is money behind it. Sure. It's testable, it's verifiable, and it replicates.

And if I can, if I can find data that it replicates just with my own eyes. Yeah. I'm sure, you know, with a budget, I could find a lot more. Or perhaps with the, the help of the internet. You know, there's a, we've got, we've got our own resources here, our extensive branch of people watching this video, let me know in the comments or hit me up in Discord or even, you know, reach out to Patrick here if you yourself found evidence of this sphere network. I think it would be interesting to pull up on the socials, whether it's Twitter or Instagram,

reach out, send us images of the spheres that landed in your backyard or perhaps, you know, video footage of certain celestial objects exploding. I would love to see more of this. It's really interesting. or even just some paranormal hauntings that you think can be explained with this. I think is a really worthwhile conversation to have at the very least. I think so. And it's a brush of fresh air as well for the community and for productions, TV and so forth. Definitely.

It's all been a bit stuck in the mud for the last 10 years. Sure. You know what I mean? So I think something new is needed. Absolutely. And yeah, it's something that I'm definitely. going to have to consider moving forward as well. So Patrick, thank you so much for your time. I won't take up any more time here on in the skiff, but I do appreciate you. Where can people find you?

I'm mostly on X. Yeah. Account is Patrick Q. Jackson, the steering network. Just look it up. Perfect. And I'll leave the link to the book in the description. You guys can check it out as well. Patrick, thank you so much. No worries. Thank you very much.