AREA52 - DEBRIEFED With Chris Ramsay - Stealth UAP Technology - 4CHAN Whistleblower Part 3 - Patch Review - DEBRIEFED ep. 13
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of debriefed.
and the final part of the 4chan whistleblower.
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Now, before we get into the final installment
of this alleged.
whistleblower on 4chan. We're going to do another patch review, but this week's patch review is
going to be a bit different as normally we do these NROL patches, the National Reconnaissance
Office launch patch. But this one's a little bit different. Have a look at this little ditty.
Yeah, folks, that's a real thing. That is a real thing. This is insane looking. But this is a patch
that, you know, some military personnel wore.
Not any military personnel, by the way.
So let's break it down.
First off, this was worn by the 509 division bombers.
These were the pilots of the B2 stealth bombers.
Those really cool, sleek-looking airplanes that look like UFOs
that were actually probably made at Area 51.
But the 509 go back way farther than that.
You see, the 509th Division was originally
the bombers who dropped the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima in 1945.
So late in 1945, after that, the 509th actually moved.
Guess where they moved?
Yeah, Roswell, New Mexico.
They were stationed at the Roswell Army base in New Mexico and was renamed the 509th
bombardment group, where it became the core of the newly formed Strategic Air Command.
And so after that, they actually moved to the Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri.
And that's where they currently reside where they have the stealth B-2 bombers.
Their mission statement is, execute nuclear operations and global strike anytime, anywhere.
That sounds like something out of Team America, but that's a real thing.
The vision is a conventional air power.
Combat ready today, preparing for tomorrow.
Now, at the top of the patch features a prominent sentence, which says, to serve man.
How lovely. How lovely to serve man, to serve us. That is so cool.
Except when you know where this originated from. Now, we'll get to that in a second.
See, prior to to serve man, this actually said classified flight tests.
Now, this patch was, as I understand it, not the official patch of the 509th bombers.
This was kind of like more of a morale booster. And originally they had classified flight test,
but Air Force Command was like, yeah, you can't write classified on a flight.
patch. So change it up and they changed it to this. Now this just goes to show you how much fun
these people are having with patches that they wear because this quote to serve man actually
comes from an episode of Twilight Zone. March 2nd, 1962, season three, episode 24, features
aliens coming down to earth and giving humanity books, which says to serve man. And all is
well and good up until the very last second of this episode.
where humans are gathered and herded into the UFOs by the aliens,
and someone comes running with a book and says,
It's a cookbook!
And that was the plot twist of the episode.
Great episode, classic.
And if that wasn't enough, at the very bottom, it says,
Gustatus simulus, Poulos.
Now, that sounds very Latin.
And what that actually means is,
tastes like chicken.
Not joking, that's what that means.
Now we see this alien depicted sort of chomping down on this B2 bomber.
We also see these lines in the background and we see what seems like either a pitchfork
or an actual fork to the right of the alien.
And on the left side of the alien is a knife.
So it looks like a fork of knife.
And then there's like this golden X.
There's also this symbol on the B2 bomber, the circle with this sort of golden little protrusion on it.
So the alien is probably a nod to Roswell, seeing as that the first.
509th was actually the first military unit to report the recovery of the debris from the
unidentified flying craft that crash landed in Roswell. So the 509th were the first responders.
They were the first responders in 1947. They were also the one to drop nuclear bombs.
Anytime we drop nuclear bombs, aliens show up. There's a whole connection to this specific
unit already. Now, the lines in the back, as far as I can tell, this is my
estimated guess on this. But I think those are like radar lines. Those are to represent the lines
you would see on a radar. And that X might be some type of radar coordinate. And the reason I say
that, because the lowercase sigma symbol, which is featured on the stealth bomber, that's what that
is, to circle with a lines, a lowercase sigma symbol. And if we're discussing radar, that symbol
represents a radar cross section. So the RCS is actually a measurement of how detectable an object is on
radar. And so this would make sense because the B2 is a stealth fighter. So technically speaking,
the RCS indicates how much power is scattered back to the radar source when it hits an object
like an aircraft. A larger sigma value means the object reflects more radar energy, making it
more easily detectable, while a smaller value implies a stealthier, less detectable object, much like
the one depicted here. But naturally, it wasn't completely undetected, as there is an X,
on these lines, the alien did figure out where the bomber was, intercepted the bomber, got
his fork and knife at the ready and is ready to chomp down. And that, folks, is all I have
for this patch here. And I think that's quite enough. Little to no speculation. I mean,
we figured that one out, I'm pretty sure. Let me know in the comments if you think I've missed
something on this patch. I would love to know. All right, folks, without any further ado,
we're going to get into this right now. This is going to be the heftiest portion of the
whistleblower files.
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All right, we're going to start off with just the original poster, the O.P.'s comment here.
He says, the way these are constructed, you cannot take an existing but damaged craft and just add on spare parts from another close it up and call it good.
Human quote unquote repairs only go so far on existing craft.
Instead, we have a much shittier iteration of what they build.
Some parts are not reused.
They are just materials for testing or research.
Once again, could be that I explain the process too poorly.
We don't reassemble them.
We quite literally bum parts and try to make our own.
And some parts of the craft we make have to be human-made substitutions.
The mechanism for piloting is one such part.
We also add things.
So this is very interesting to me because that is one of the speculations in UFO lore,
is that how are they manning these crafts?
How are they flying these crafts?
Seemingly the one that Bob Lazar worked on.
Now, he never went to the third floor,
the uppermost floor, he wasn't allowed access to that, but from what he saw on the main floor,
there was no such steering components or anything whatsoever, no computer, no nothing. So
it leads us to believe that there might be some type of psionic or psychic ability that allows for
your consciousness to interface with the technology and fly it using your mind. Like, that's the
hypothesis anyways. And it seems like this guy agrees with that by saying the mechanism for piloting is
is something that they have to substitute.
Question, what the F are you talking about?
What actual data do we have on UAPs?
Answer, I'm not surprised people think this way.
There's a ton of shrouded information on this topic.
You're telling me.
Question, UFOs influencing human mind
supposedly comes from government sources.
Answer, I'd be more inclined to believe this aspect alone.
A lot of posts in this thread made me wonder
if there was more construction units, etc.
I also found the memo post interesting,
specifically because of the year mentioned.
Now, this is the second time he mentions the Wilson Davis memos.
I have since dove in to this memo and this interaction between Admiral Thomas Wilson and Eric Davis.
And the year is interesting.
Question, what's his compartment and why is it the ultimate treasure trove?
Answer, even if you don't believe me, I think we can agree the bio department would have more info than me by conversation with them alone.
This is before we even include leadership.
Okay, so he thinks that obviously the bio department is a more important department and then leadership.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Question, are they following SpaceX operations?
Answer, they respond rather quickly to any type of rocketry.
I imagine they will be.
ULA has now filed a lawsuit against the FAA to block SpaceX's Starship Florida plan,
questioning Starship's ability to reach the moon and Mars.
Question, didn't make any noise, was completely black, like black metal,
There is no way a being could resist that sharp turn without turning into a puddle of blood.
Answer, they make noise, but not very much of it.
Also, they can stop inertia when we struggle with that, when we still struggle with that.
Question, has any writing been discovered on the crafts?
Answer, yes.
Or on any tools inside of them.
Answer, yes.
Question, if so, has it been linguistically linked to any known languages?
Answer, I'm not sure, but it doesn't look like anything I've seen.
Question. What specifics of the propulsion system can you reveal? Answer. I cover this already, but as far for the mercury comment, no. Oh, I guess somebody's asking if there's mercury involved?
Question, if the U.S. Navy, etc., knows where the construction facility is? Answer, they don't. Question. A lot of Bob Lazar's is proven bullshit.
Answer, sauce, question mark. Now, sauce in 4chan language means source. So he's asking, if you think it's BS, give me the source.
Maybe we'll get an answer on that.
Question.
It's interesting that he doesn't know the lore of Bob Lazar.
All he knows is that Bob Lazar was mentioned.
115 was mentioned.
And he knows like that story.
He doesn't know any of the deep Babelazar lore that exists on the internet.
There's a whole dark history on Bob Lazar that people have speculated exists.
And that's the reason he has this story.
It's a deep rabbit hole.
But this guy's not even aware of that.
So I find it really interesting that this person here who could be LARPing, could be creating this universe, has very good universe building components and yet missed a really big one.
Like if you're going to build something around Bob Lazari, you want to make sure you've seen every angle, right?
And so it's interesting that he hadn't.
Either he's an unprepared liar or, yeah, and it's real.
Question, what does the interior of the craft look like? Please describe it in detail.
Answer, I already did this. It's always cramped and hard to stand fully upright. For reference, I'm 5'8.
Oh, interesting that he would give away his height. There's almost never a storage facility unless it is dedicated to something for the craft. There's always a method of interacting with the craft. Tools are not freely placed around the craft. They have dedicated placement.
Question, have you only ever entered slash seen orbs? Answer, the hammers? If so, yes, I've used.
used them. What? You've used them? Question, or have you been involved with disks too? Answer,
no? Be more specific. Question, it sounds like the tic-tacks or cigar-shaped ones are transports.
Nobody has gotten a hold of, right? Answer, cigar shapes are very rare. Correct. We were told
finding one would be career-changing. We suspect they are transports, but ultimately don't know.
Question. There are many stories of crashed discs. Please elaborate.
Answer. I've never seen a disc.
Question. I'm curious to know what you think.
Answer. Prior to the zookeeper comment, I thought they looked down on us as vile and worthless
with intent to destroy everything around us. So before he was told the zookeeper thing,
he thought they were just chum. Question, what role do you think Space Force will play in disclosure
moving forward? Answer. Openly stated to us, discovery for internal use and disinformation to the
public. Wow. Question, what can we use as a populace to encourage your bosses to lighten up?
Good question. Answer. This has always been on my mind. I think if we convinced another nation like
China or Russia to come out, the U.S. would have to come out as well. I think having the United
States Air Force released their footage was a way to jumpstart SpaceX in a way. That would be a good
strategy, though, to get like China or Russia to open up and then like U.S. would have to fall suit, but I'm sure
there's some type of agreement behind the curtain there.
Question, the Pentagon has already reported that
legit UAPs are off-world vehicles
not made of this earth, while O.P. is claiming
they are made in facilities in the ocean.
Answer, I say to multiple times,
we've seen them come and go from the planet.
We suspect that construction facility is
capable of space travel as well.
Question, he also stated that they were
all unmanned. Answer, reading comprehension
issue. I said most of them are
unmanned today. This is not
strictly the case, and in prior
years we dealt with piloted craft quite often. Even I know this. Guys, come on, if you're going to ask
this guy a question, do your homework. Question, people with security clearances that large, that large,
don't just get on 4chan to spill the beans. Answer, you're not wrong. And if it makes you feel better,
watching my internet take a shit last night made me panic a bit if I'm being honest. I could have
just ignored your post too. So he's fessing up. He's kind of like, yeah, I am scared.
My computer glitch, and I thought, you know, he got, he was panicking.
Answer, I do not have free access to everything.
Visiting crash sites comes with a lot of information by default, though.
Right.
You're probably read into the entire thing on a baseline level.
Question, providing zero evidence towards his claim.
Also the burden of proof fallacy.
Answer, was I supposed to steal data from work and post it freely here?
How about a copy of my clearance or work badge?
Yes, Anon, let me just out myself completely.
He's getting pretty defensive about this stuff.
You know, that could be defensive because he's mad that we're not believing his truth or he's trying to cover a lie, you know.
That I learned from Spidey.
If you haven't checked that episode out, behavioral analyst, Spidey helped me out in looking at whistleblowers.
Question.
Okay, so Element 115 provide the weak gravity field and the engine amplify the phenom through resonance, question mark.
Answer, the gravity field remains the same for Element 115, but the output from the engine produces almost all of the gravity used for travel.
Question, was the language that Bob Lazar leaked? Completed. Answer, I've never seen it. Can you post a picture of it?
Question, any info about crop circles? Answer, never seen one or heard of it being relevant.
Fair enough. He's in the ocean. No crops in the ocean. Question, I have a few questions, if you please.
Answer, you have a lot, so I'm not answering every single thing. Question, has there been any unusual effects on the environment slash wildlife? Answer, no, they do study animals.
Question, why or how are they avoiding Mexico?
Answer, one area around there is a bad crash zone for them.
Question, why was 2002 a big year?
Answer, a lot of activities and changes in operation, both for them and us.
A lot of secrecy issues surfaced that year as a result.
Funding also jumped through the roof.
Question, is the lob stressful?
Answer, very, strained my marriage greatly.
Question, does it have anything to do with your illness?
Answer, I wonder.
about that, but ultimately I'll never know. Oh, so he's asking if maybe, you know, the interaction
with the components has anything to do with his illness. And he wonder that himself. Yeah, that would
be something I would wonder too. Question, what kind of training qualifications are needed to work in
this field? Answer, your record needs to be clean as F. Education can vary. Question, do you listen to
public sightings or go off on your own agency's intel? Answer, agency intel all the way. Nearly all of it
passed verbally in person. Right. They don't want a paper trail. Question, how does a government
prevent or respond to potential national security threats posed by UFOs coming, going in and
out of the atmosphere and the ocean, et cetera? Answer, wait for crashes. The only time everyone is all
hands on deck is if they screw with nukes. We mostly just watch and wait for them to F up.
Question, just to steal and learn tech? Answer, this. Huh.
Question, MJ12. Answer, that term is more of a history lesson than anything now.
So he's saying MJ12 is done with. They've moved on from that. It's probably got new names.
Question, then just say it, coward. Probably referring to the name of the project.
Answer, would you like my address too?
Question, O.P., if you're dying, why can't you just tell us the department name and share some photos of the documents?
Answer, I'd like to appreciate what little I have left. See the above post about last night.
So he's referring to him, you know, not getting any sleep.
Question, why do you think cloaking technology is not employed by UAPs?
It shouldn't be that difficult to bend light?
Answer, I wish I could show you one of the images from our training.
Sometimes we get lucky and find very odd variants of UFOs.
Same setup as usual, but with interesting additions.
Question, do you know where in space they come from?
Any star system in particular?
Answer, higher ups new.
I never did.
Question, any craft found on Earth that,
was ancient? Answer, none that I saw. Question, what is it like keeping everything a secret from
humanity? What do you do for work? Answer, I travel and do inspections for the government. Boring stuff,
really. Yeah, so boring. Question, do you have any idea what's going on in there? Answer, first I've
heard of it. Makes me wonder if there were others that did what I did, but in different areas.
Question, plasma physics has developed greatly in the past few decades. Answer, you should be paying attention
to things like this long after I leave.
Laser technology too.
All right.
Keep an on that, folks.
Laser technology and plasma.
Could you imagine being in like the 1940s
and listening to us talk right now about this stuff,
be like laser plasma's UFO and crash retrieval?
How insane this would all sound right now.
Just out of context.
Just give that a thought experiment for a second.
That is wild.
We live in a great time, folks.
Question.
We're going to hit the bump.
limit before OP comes back? Answer, half the thread wants me to keep going, so I'll likely remake.
So he has to remake another thread before they hit the limit. Might need to wait a bit before the
weekend, will be busy for me. Question, the abductees that are returned, who are monitored,
how are those individuals dealt with? Answer, I suspect another department handles that. We do nothing
with them from my end. So he suspects there's a department devoted solely to the abductees.
That is frightening. There's also a lot of talk in the abduction circles.
about potentially humans working with the ETs throughout these abductions,
like some type of agreement they have or some type of like joint tests they're doing and hybridization program.
It's very, very strange.
Question, do we know why certain individuals are selected?
Answer, not at all, but they like picking from remote areas exposed to radiation and disease.
This was mentioned prior.
Question, capabilities to remove someone, let us say, from a building in a large city without civilians noticing?
Answer, they have to get quite close to start the abduction process. Never seen it happen freely in a crowded city. Taking a break until later this evening, as I mentioned, weekend is busy if the thread dies, I'll attempt to do another one. Now, clearly the question is referring to the Manhattan alien abduction, Linda Cortiel. You haven't seen that on Netflix, watch that. Genuinely interesting. But there's a lot more to the story than what they let go on Netflix. Netflix kind of did them dirty, and I do believe Linda.
and the Bud Hopkins estate are currently suing Netflix for their depiction of what happened
because apparently it's not the full story. I haven't read Bud Hopkins witnessed yet. It's something
that I've been meaning to read, but I've spoken to people who have dove into this subject
quite extensively and they can say for a fact that there's a lot that they left out and they
purposely made this kind of look like a hoax. It was very weird. Something to look into. All right.
So this is a new thread that the open
he is posting to
keep the conversation going.
This is on Friday, May 5th,
Cinco de Mayo, 2023.
It's been a bit of a rough week for me.
It's still going to be a rough week for me,
so I may not reply as much.
Drop your questions and criticisms
and I'll answer them as best I can.
I'll address some of the other questions
I saw elsewhere below.
I don't know anything about the Moonman Post.
No interest in a trip code.
It sounds pretentious.
You should be skeptical.
Over time, though, I think a lot of people will find themselves coming back to what I said.
And this is multiple times here, repeats this.
And that's the one thing that's really stuck with me.
Plus, the reason we're reading this before the hearing.
So you guys go into that hearing well informed.
O.P. says, I wanted to go out of my way to answer this one.
So the question is tools with anti-gravitational properties or any portable anti-gravity devices.
Answer, very few, lots of them emit radiation.
Question. Close encounters are seen with red lights and some orange? Answer, orange is a mineral bioscaning mode.
Since most people see orange up close, they are likely being scouted slash selected for an abduction.
It can see your heart beating and even the valves pushing the blood inside just to add some perspective.
Whoa. Now, although orange doesn't seem like a very terrifying light, to me that is undoubtedly terrified.
And I imagine that these orbs of light and these hammers are unmanned as well.
They're probably just AI drones.
Question, red should be defense mode, just wondering why some close encounters are with red lights.
Answer, correct. Red lights are considered defense mode.
If red lights are present, chances are the craft wants to leave and has to keep an eye on you while they wrap up.
Red also allows very accurate calculation of distance and can detect hostility based on facial expression, etc.
If a weapon is fired, the beam is white.
Question, do these ships emit any kind of radiation? Answer, yes.
Question, landing places always have traces of radiation. Is this BS or is there anything behind it?
Answer, this is mostly correct. The source is not the landing and is the craft itself?
Question, is any obtained tech nowadays being used commercially, something we could all know?
Answer, lasers. You see lasers everywhere in retail.
Now, we covered this briefly last time and I showed you a clip of a laser scanning
this car. And that clip was actually shared by Tom DeLong, interestingly enough.
It seems very real, by the way. Question, super high security, wrapped facility,
hiding in planes, or hiding in plain sight. Answer. Both.
Now, O.P. refers to not getting sleep, and he says, I'm pretty effed already. Not too
worried. I say that, but the internet glitched the night I made the first thread, and I
panicked enough to sleep with a revolver. I skipped some questions to tackle ones I haven't been
asked about. Sorry.
Question, are the aliens,
Alamo's aware of computer tech.
Answer, they know about ours, yes.
I doubt they could operate ours with our input device, though.
Question, do they have something like digital communication?
Answer, chance communication to computer, and you kind of nail it.
Oh, change, not chance.
He made a typo.
Okay.
And you kind of nail it.
Describing their version of a console slash computer is really hard.
It works by holding it and thinking about what you want.
if you are distracted even slightly it goes to shit that is so interesting that's what i wanted to hear
that is so crazy a technology that interfaces with consciousness to the point that you have to be so
tuned in like probably in like some type of zone state some flow state some meditative consciousness
alter state that you have to be in to even activate these things it makes me think you know you hear the
ce5 stuff and this contacting alien stuff i've always
always had a theory. So there's this thing with Stephen Greer and other people have said this
too outside of Greer that you can sort of mentally connect with these ETs that are up in the sky.
I've always thought, what if we're accidentally hijacking these things? It seems to me to really
make these things appear. You lock in coordinates of where you are in a meditative state,
projecting that outwards, you know, onto this alien craft. But what if we're actually
hijacking these UFOs and that's why they appear during these meditations. We aren't summoning them.
We're literally driving them. Interesting hypothesis. I'll respond to a few just before I stop.
Once again, if the thread closes, I'll make a new one if time and energy permit. There is a lockbox
that I've asked to be opened after my death. Hopefully part of that makes it to this board as I've
instructed. I've not heard about this lockbox. Could be that OPE is still
alive. Question, what have we used them for? In case they're talking about the tech, perhaps? Answer, modifying
them to fire human weapons. Oh, the UFOs. Modifying them to fire human weapons is a big thing,
generally trying to test and research ways to reduce inertia. Question, are they exclusively
testbed vehicles or do they get used for ISR? Answer, testing is all I've heard. I imagine we
didn't stop there and I'm just uninformed. Question, have we taken them out of the atmosphere? Answer,
yes, a lot.
Question, how extensive
are the DOD underground
facilities and the tunnel systems? Answer,
the facility I worked on, I worked
in, was underground and ground
level. They span for miles. Definitely
not DOD, so no idea.
Question, little to no activity here in
Florida. Answer, you have a better
chance of seeing them in the middle of nowhere. They don't venture
populated areas often.
Question, is the element 115 really
100% proven to be an isotope?
of Moscovium, or is this just a code name slash misinformation to hide some arcane power source?
I've never heard of an arcane power source. The older members of our team, when I first joined,
joking called the construction facility Atlantis in passing once or twice.
Question, are you Air Force? Air Force? No. Question. Karen Seamount is an underwater volcano in the
Atlantic Ocean. He says, the construction facility never goes near it. I can say that much. Okay.
He's answering to somebody else.
He says, you think UFO crash sites are illusions.
Crazy people don't excite me.
Fascinating how a person claiming that they've worked on reverse engineering alien technology
in an underground base is calling a skeptic crazy.
We live in a very interesting time, folks.
I also am of the mind that within the next few years, anyone,
denying the presence of at the very minimum UAP and at the maximum extraterrestrials is going to
sound crazy question could a human physically best them answer i'm not an expert but probably
their size and frame are one reason they don't make it through the crash as often question
wouldn't it be easier for them to mine all the gold they need in some asteroid and bring it to
earth answer i haven't really covered much on the resourcing end of operations but we believe they do
this for certain elements. Gold doesn't appear to be one of them. All right. So question, purely efficiency
ad engineering driven? Answer, I've never seen anything emotionally driven in their craft. Okay, so he's
asking if it's only engineering rather than emotions or anything else. Question, if so, maybe they're
really soulless race drones genetically degenerate or engineered. Answer, that's one theory. The US mostly
believes they're just military as I previously discussed. Wow. So my theory of them being like
soulless AI drones is plausible. The U.S. mostly believes they're just military. They're like
soldiers. Question, do you know the stealth capabilities of the ships? I assume not all have the
same characteristics, but there's some baseline. Answer, these crafts are so rare we actually
almost never see them crash because we can't track them. We only recently started finding craft
with stealth capabilities. Maybe one in 20 has stealth technology. Question, but there's some
baseline. Different internals, same stealth tech. Made to spec like I said, I have to perform, quote
unquote, I have to perform two abductions. Make me a craft to fit two prisoners and four crew and
shape it to fit perfectly with all my tools. Again, speaking to the built to specifications comment
that he keeps referring, like if you got to abduct two people, there needs to be a place to hold
two people, et cetera. Interesting. Question, I don't know if you've answered this already, but
What do they know about the underwater pyramid and complex near Cuba?
Answer, first I've heard about it.
Question.
Did you work for the government before your current UFO job?
If so, mind telling us?
Answer, yes.
Question.
And can you tell us what did you study back then?
Answer, absolutely not.
You can probably guess easily, though.
Question.
And is this construction facility somehow related to the incident that happened back in 2019
west of San Diego?
Answer.
Rumors and questions because we weren't tracking them.
at the time. Question, do our conventional weapons have any capability against the UAPs?
Answer, they look like they would go down to a pistol. In reality, though, I'm not sure.
Question, what about the lasers that are being tested against UAVs and rockets?
Answer, wouldn't surprise me even slightly. They do nearly everything with light and lasers.
Question, what are your thoughts on the Baltic Sea anomaly? Cashed UFO or just a weird-looking
geological thing? Answer, doesn't stand out to me. I also don't know what?
a few decades under an ocean does to them either.
Speaking of which, the main construction facility does not rust or deteriorate from what we can tell.
Which would make sense because apparently Bob Lazars craft that he worked on was,
see, that's the thing.
I think I heard this, and I'm not sure if I heard it from Bob, but apparently the craft
that he worked on, rumors had it, that this craft was found in some type of excavation underwater
and dates back to like 10,000 years.
That's rumors, though.
but that might be just misinfo to see who's spreading that information.
Because if that was the case, then they wouldn't speculate on whether or not this has been around for a long time.
But interesting that it doesn't rust.
Question, it was even stopping electrical equipment when ships were sailing over.
Answer, they have this ability.
Question, did anything surprising or unexpected ever happen at the crash sites?
Answer, the first threat has a few instances.
The first body I ever saw spooked me almost didn't think it was real.
Okay, so he's referring to also when the doors were closing on him.
Question, why not tell everyone if there's so much evidence?
Answer, because most governments think the local population is stupid.
They're not wrong.
On for a bit here and there today.
We've got like half a dozen pages left here, folks.
How are we doing?
Question, are they using resources from Earth to build these ships or drones?
Answer, we think the harder to find elements come from off-world, but partially, yes.
Question, if so, does that mean we would have means to do the same and just don't have the knowledge?
Answer, lack of knowledge and a few other elements.
The thought was passed around frequently about the level of heat required to shape the alloy.
We've wondered if that's another reason it sits in the ocean.
Question.
What form of language did these aliens use?
Answer, I mentioned that in previous thread.
I asked for the images from another anon.
It looks similar.
I want to see more.
So he was shown the images of what Bob saw.
Hey, currently editing this part here where I talk about the language.
Now, I think the OP might have slid.
up in this particular instance because when he was given the image by one of the people on
4chan the person sent images but he also said that those images were from Bob Lazar
which they were not OPCs these images and responds positively he says looks
similar I want to see more and I believe he talks about these symbols later on again
the symbols that were shared with him don't look anything like what Bob Lazar saw
Now, there's no way that OP could have known this because what Bob Lazar saw wasn't really public knowledge, I think.
So now it looks like the OP is just agreeing based on the fact that this is supposedly from Bob Lazar, which it isn't.
It's from the carrot documents, another alleged leak that happened, probably fake.
Highly resembles Japanese Katakana.
It also has some other features that make us think it's probably just human and it's probably just some really elaborate hoax or
prank. But he gets very excited about this particular language that you're looking at now. And it's not
what Bob Lazar saw. This is what Bob Lazar saw. Very, very different. You see, there's no hard
lines. There's more rounded edges and more dots, actually. So unless OP is just confused, perhaps,
but personally, I don't think that these two things look alike that much. Let me know what you
think. Question, if you were to classify them on a Kardashev scale, what type are they? Answer, not my area of
knowledge. I'm learning lots during these investigations. Is a method of measuring a civilian, a civilization's
level of technological advancement based on the amount of energy it is capable of harnessing. Oh, right,
like a type one, type two civilization. Question, perhaps they want us to know they exist? Answer, I think
they don't care that we know. If anything, the threat of being able to harm our
nukes is enough alone. They don't care that we know. They just don't care. They're not trying to
be like, hey, we're here, hey, we're not here. They just don't care. We're beneath them.
Question, are they carbon-based life forms like us? What are they based of? Answer, not my area again,
from what I could see and tell yes. Question, do you think there's a chance we are their creation
slash experiment? Answer. We both look very similar. It wouldn't surprise me, and I'm inclined to think so.
Question, what are your theories on UFO frenzy of February?
They downed three crafts and then nada.
This is about the incursions over U.S. airspace and Canadian airspace that they've sent F-22s to sort of down.
Answer, we never see that many downed unless we found a good way to intercept them.
Question, can they manipulate consciousness?
Are they related to the mystery of life after death?
Answer, no idea.
Question, do they have portable weapons like phasers or ray guns?
If so, please describe.
Answer, they do have weapons.
I've never seen one held, though, and suspect the first team always took them away.
Looking at the abduction tools and the general capability of the construction facility,
I wouldn't want to face off against one.
Question, I like how OP asked you for a source on this.
Answer, don't confuse interest with the burden of proof.
Question, while being totally unwilling to provide their own proofs.
Answer, sure, let me just walk on through the golden gates and get that for you,
on. Would you like me to drop off your resume while I'm there? Question, is this factory craft on duty
as fire watch of sorts? Answer, the U.S. believes this is the case. That or it's in preparation
for something more? Very ominous answer right there. Question, conversely, is there
propulsion enough to say they are a colony coexisting here? Answer, it wouldn't surprise me if they
had a base off world nearby or even on Earth. We never saw consistent stops that would
indicate a base. I also now believe it may not be the only facility with everyone talking about
the Arctic. These craft never really went near the Arctic either. So he's really like driven this
point home. He's stuck on this point. He's fascinated by the fact that he never gave it any thought
before, which is interesting. So during that time, he might have thought this is the only place I'm very
lucky to be working here. And coming back and sort of zooming out, now he's realizing, man, there might be
more of these. But it's interesting that.
didn't have that thought while he was there.
Question, what resources are they mining or monitoring or attracted to?
Answer, they consistently mine gold.
Wait, but didn't he say, I haven't really covered much on the resourcing end of operations,
but we believe they do this for certain elements.
Gold doesn't appear to be one of them.
Wouldn't it be easier for them to mine all the gold they need in some asteroid and bring it to Earth?
I think the original comment that we're referring to where it says,
why don't they mine off an asteroid and come back to Earth?
I think they might be referring to the Chinese
where he says gold doesn't appear to be one of the things they're mining.
Okay, because that would explain it.
Question, want to talk about mapping or LIDAR?
Answer, interesting, you mentioned LIDAR.
Question, I mean tech we don't know how to use slash distribute yet?
Answer, you should keep watching the development of laser technology.
Looking at it from a civilian with a higher understanding,
it looks like a do-all tool. Mining quite literally takes the resource out of the rock without leaving much dirt. China still scares us.
Question is Karen Seamount in the Atlantic between the Bermuda and Virginia have anything to do with it with the aliens?
He says, answer, no idea. It moves constantly and doesn't really leave traces. He's talking about, he made this joke earlier about probes and anal probing. And he says, I figured most people realize the anal probe joke was an obvious cue. We haven't seen any females.
We did talk in great depths about reasons why.
We think it's mainly a military operation, or they just don't have them, hence male only.
So they have genitals?
Weird.
How does he know that?
Are they naked?
It's weird that he would comment on the sex of the alien after only seeing a body.
I guess hearing about it.
It's very strange.
Question, could we find evidence that the factory mothership has extracted materials from the ocean floor or the Earth's
crust to produce the UAPs? Answer, it sends out UAPs to extract quite often. Yes, we have yet to
really see them mine the ocean floor since it's harder to know that far down. The last miner we
looked at had a huge haul of gold, iron, and silver. No dirt. Question, where does the most exotic
material, Moscow, I assume, come from? Answer, off-world. Question, I don't think element 115 is that
big of a deal off-earth. Answer, the main source of power. We really wanted to see how the construction
facility is powered. Question, what is amazing are there alloys? They have alloys that are impossible
to reproduce. Answer, correct. Question, element 115 nuclei last for milliseconds before disintegrating
under lab conditions. Answer, correct. Still a massive problem. He says time travel was never mentioned
seriously, but he's asking about the image of the writing and he's saying, do you have more of
the image you posted? Serious question. He's very interested in this. Question, what races of
aliens we know actually exist? Answer, never had another one mentioned other than the ones I described.
Question, if they interfere when there is a nuclear threat, why didn't they prevent World War II nukes?
Answer. We talked about this a lot and honestly, we never came to a solid conclusion, other than
they might not have realized our capability until we use them. They were interested in test sites,
but never actually stopped the ones we set off. Question, why is there so much alien activity in Mexico?
Answer. Bermuda Triangle is right next door to Mexico. They also avoid certain parts because they crash there often.
Question. The aliens are literally hanging out with Indian tribes and Sonora and taking people on tours of other planets.
Answer. Sauce, question, question. He's asking for the source.
Question, what do they do with one of these drones once it's finished its task? Answer, they are not exclusively drones. It returns to the construction facility.
Question. You said that they only make them right before they, uh, they use.
use them? Answer, yes, built a spec every time they launch as far as we can tell. Question,
what do they do with them after it's been used? Answer, based on heat signatures, likely
smelted back down into parts. Question, either way, it's probably related to Blue Eisenhower,
November, whether he knows it or not. Answer, explain, I'm learning as well. So the OPE says here
he's learning at the same time, you know, because he's not apparently familiar with, you know,
UFO lore. And I think the question is referred to the Eisenhower meeting when Eisenhower allegedly
met with aliens and we had first contact. A whole other thing. But I think his granddaughter,
to this day, confirms that story. Question, why is this image to start your threads? Answer, saw the
release on TV and laugh because USAF is so far in the dark. Oh, because he used a, he used the
Tick-Tac image or the gimbal image. He's actually laughing at the United States Air Force.
Question, is this a project you work on?
Answer, not a specific UFO, probably not.
The one in the picture of my post is definitely real.
Oh, so he's saying the one in the picture is real.
Question, what sort of reporting structure do you slash did you have at your UAP job?
Answer, I'm hesitant to go over this detail.
I would love to explain, though.
Question, are there any guidelines or procedures for relief,
releasing info to the public that you're aware of?
Answer, for me, it was, you know what the USAF knows and nothing else ever.
And things like the Space Force are going to be disinformation-based.
Question, any idea why new management was so hell-bent on changing course?
Answer, new management coming in thinking they can make sweeping changes and fix everything
while impressing their leadership if I had to guess.
Should be on tomorrow night, if all goes well.
It's interesting because in the Wilson memos,
after Thomas Wilson was poking around the private sector,
Lockheed Martin, that type of thing,
looking for these black projects that were outside of the government, but still very classified and top secret.
He had heard, apparently, and I heard this from Richard Dolan, this private corporation was audited at one point,
and one of the auditors had to be read into the program because he accidentally saw something he didn't, he shouldn't have seen.
And finding out there was only like 500 people read into this top secret program.
And since then, they doubled down on secure.
And so that could be at the same time this new management came into, you know, to this.
Question, how on earth would it be possible to maintain a secret with such a large amount of people constantly in the know?
Not just over years, but literally decades.
It's a great question and one that's posed by many skeptics.
Answer, that's just it.
They haven't been able to maintain secrecy.
There's a major reason the previous management didn't mind us being so open with each other.
If you mean more historically, as in the past 20 years or more now, you know why I find references
to MJ12 funny.
Secrecy is all but gone.
Now it's just about obfuscation and misinformation.
Right.
So nothing's secret.
The information is out there.
It's just mixed among misinformation and obfuscation.
This is...
That is how you function in the world.
You don't hide something.
You create so much.
much BS that you mix it in with the real stuff and you can never tell what's real. It's,
it's more than hiding a needle in a haystack. It's hiding a needle in a stack of needles.
Question, what is the extent of contractor or third party involvement in their work?
Answer, not as often as you imagine. We do use them, though. Okay. Question, anon mentioned
Lockheed last thread. Answer, such a great company, heart they? Definitely wouldn't be the type to try
and leak things to the public. Now, is that sarcasm or is that, I don't know, I have the first part of
sarcasm, but question, are there work contracts that go out for UAP work? Answer, you normally have to
sign and agree to a contract. Question, what kind of language is put out in the government's acquisition
channels to indicate project is UAP or UAP adjacent? Answer, none. They show up and tell you where you'll be
and what you'll do. You have to be top tier in your field. You also have to be so clean you've never seen
a speeding ticket. Question, compartmentalization. Most don't know. Most don't know. Most
don't 100% know what's permissible to discuss, but they know what who 100% isn't.
Add on the threat of legal and criminal action and family and loved ones.
It's quite easy to understand how it happens.
So this question is basically referring to the question above about like, how can you keep this a secret?
And he's addressing the fact that like a compartmentalization.
So you only know very little, a very little piece of the puzzle.
And B, the threat of criminal and legal action because of the NDAs that you've signed,
You're going to lose all your pension.
You're going to lose your job, and you'll probably lose future jobs,
because the security clearances that these people have in the military don't end when they retire.
Most of these people go into the private sector, and that security, those permissions,
and that clearance transfers over to the private sector, you know, and probably they get more added on after that.
So answer is, the Annan nailed it perfectly.
This was changing until new management showed up.
Question, any ability to prove it.
Answer, I'm willing to work with you on ideas.
You might like what I have up my sleeve closer to the end.
He's a magician now, is he?
Question, favorite ice cream?
Answer, vanilla sprinkles.
Question, when a muamua was spotted,
were there concerns in your circles that it could be related to the construct?
Answer, a few places panic with every odd sighting here and there.
We know almost instantly by looking at gravity and speed.
Question, how other countries,
know about the existence of this underwater facility? Answer, the same way we do. They've been looking
at crash sites as long as we have. Question, I know last thread you said it's all a hands-on-deck situation
if these crafts start messing with our nukes. Answer, correct. Question, does this happen often? Answer,
about once every 10 years for the U.S., we suspect other countries have had similar issues and reactions.
Question, what kind of reaction is there when these events occur?
Answer, a higher-up joke months after the last one I saw.
Quote unquote, the phone rings everywhere, but the president's office.
In the same instance, mentioned above, they deployed multiple craft and a sub with serious intent.
The sub didn't arrive in time.
Fighters probably never saw the end coming.
Question, is this thread related to underwater structure that Gordon Cooper cited
and Discovery Channel had to cancel that show for three seasons?
Answer, nothing in those pictures rings a bell.
If you see the construction facility, you'll know.
You can't miss it.
As for if they were instructed, instructed to leave, that could be true.
Okay.
Last one.
Question, your answer on tools you found in vehicles makes you seem like you are larping.
There must have been more advanced and intruding tools than a toothpick.
Answer, I had to think about this one for multiple reasons, and I think I'll cover the abduction tools in greater detail.
There are tools that induce a childlike state or something akin to having a stroke.
We covered that.
The tools I didn't talk about are the ones that are designed to take objects the size of pills
and push them deep into your tissue and stomach.
These tools aren't friendly and don't account for extreme pain.
There's also another tool that looks like a circular battery you would find in a key fob designed for
keeping your eyes open when deployed.
It also stopped the eye from moving almost perfectly.
Subsequent to this, people have continued asking questions in this thread over and over and over and over,
only to have them ignored.
Speculation obviously leads to one of two things or one of three things.
He got sick of his own jokes.
Stop posting.
weird way to end it by the way
if you are larping
you would probably want to
finalize it right if you're creating this story
it's weird to end it there
reason number two he's dead
reason number three
they got to him
see reason number two
he did have a dead man switch in place though
with like some lockbox apparently so that's interesting
maybe one day we'll see the
contents of that that would be
that'd be very interesting
but I also
don't underestimate the power of the internet to make up this type of story or following stories
that will come from this. I think we have to be extremely vigilant when it comes to this stuff,
especially in a day and age where AI has almost surpassed our ability to tell a story
in specific detail. Right? AI makes mistakes obviously, but it's getting very good. And
it's getting very good at filling plot holes.
So we do have to be weary and aware of that,
which is why it's, you know,
one thing to read posts,
it's another thing to see someone's face as they're saying it,
those are telling it, you know.
Yeah, I don't know.
Let me know what you guys thought of this episode,
what you guys take away from this.
I'm very curious to see if you've caught anything that I've missed,
which is potentially a reality.
It's given me a lot to think about,
and I won't lie that any time I hear,
the government speak of
UAP or I hear some new type
of information has surfaced regarding
abductees, regarding sightings, regarding
crash retrieval regarding
USOs. My mind
always comes back to this.
Just like O.P. said.
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