Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard - Armchair Anonymous: Holiday Nightmare III
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I'm Dan Shepard and I'm George by Judge Rajbodge.
It's me.
Today we have...
Holiday Nightmare, Part 3.
Oh, ho, ho, ho.
See how I do.
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Good times, take them slow.
My life, I had a more.
You got to know, I'm going to keep on shining.
Hi.
Hi, guys.
Can you hear us?
Yes, I can.
Can you hear me?
Absolutely.
Your hair looks so pretty.
It feels like your hair's very on brand for someone named Bella.
That's really kind.
Thank you.
to blow it out for today. I went off my routine, but I was like, today's a big day.
What's your normal routine? Do we put it in braids the night before and hope for curls in the
morn? So my hair is naturally super curly. So I usually blow it out on Saturdays and then wash
one time a week. Same. So Bella, what's wrong with all of us? Because my children have
pin straight hair and they braid it every night when it's wet. So they'll have curls in the morning.
And everyone with curls is trying to straighten their hair. What is wrong with us? I know. The grass is
always greener. It really is. It's always greener. I've learned over time, I just air dry and I just go.
And you want your hair, right? I'm happy with my hair. Yeah, you should. One of the only things I got. You got to embrace what you got.
Hold on. I bet we could make a list right now. Well, we are not doing that. Bella, let's make a list.
Where are you? So I am in New York City, but I'm originally from Texas. So that is where my story takes place.
Where in Texas?
It's a suburb outside of Dallas called Plano.
Oh, Plano.
Oh, I know, Plano, yeah.
I went to either a total wine or a Sprouts on Aaron and I's bus tour in Plano.
Oh, I love sprouts.
It's so fun.
My mom loves sprouts.
Okay, so tell us what year and we're in Plano, Texas for this story?
Yes.
This was about 12 years ago.
I had to consult my mom for some details.
But basically, my family is big on her.
holidays. My mom loves to host. She is a great host, and she is one of seven kids. So each of her
siblings married, they have kids, and then some of those kids have kids. So it's just a full,
full house. It was an explosion. And can we do some stereotypes now? I would like to play in
stereotypes for one second. I think when people have a stereotype about Texas, I think what they're
really thinking about is Dallas. And I think there is a fun stereotype about Dallas.
Well, higher the hair, the closer to God.
That vibe, and a great host.
Like, this is all feels very in keeping.
My sister and I are both quite tall, and my mom, without a doubt, says to everyone, we grow them big in Texas.
Like, there's just all the stereotypes.
American by birth, Texan by the grace of God.
Yeah, so they're super proud Texans, which is fun to have them visit me in New York City.
Oh, that.
But they love it.
It was Christmas Day, afternoon.
We all finished eating.
The guys are all watching football.
My cousins and I are upstairs playing rock band.
How old are you 13 years ago?
I would have been 16.
Probably too old for rock band at that point.
No, rock band's so fun.
We hear this loud bang on the front door.
And immediately following the bang comes the stray dog that runs right into our house.
My family, we are not ones to remain calm.
We are alarmists and we overreact.
Okay, great.
Immediately, my mom is panicked.
We have several elderly people and my three uncles decide they're going to handle it.
Sure.
That's their duty.
They got the whole day off to watch football.
They got to be lazy, but now there's somebody who's protecting.
So you're finally up.
It's Christmas football?
The lions play every year on Christmas.
Somehow there's always a game on on holidays.
So my uncles are trying to corral this dog out and they finally get it to the front port.
And I guess the rationale is that they're nervous about the dog not leaving the property while people are trying to get to their car.
I honestly can't explain why this next part happened, but Uncle Bob decides that he is going to pepper spray above the dog.
Above it.
Above it.
You mainly pepper spray.
And Uncle Bob has pepper spray at Christmas.
Somehow, yes.
We're all very protected.
You know, it's Texas.
So we're all a little on guard.
He is going to pepper spray above the dog.
It'll smell it and run away.
This is an insane plan, as if he's tried this before.
And I wish somebody had insulted him.
I wish he had thought it through a little bit more.
But he sprays the pepper spray.
And immediately, it blows right back into his face.
Yeah, of course.
He runs inside, leaving the door wide open.
He's screaming.
My eyes, my mom is at the sink washing dishes.
He pushes her out of the way, starts rinsing out.
his eyes, while immediately all of the pepper spray blew back into our house.
So now everyone can feel it.
It is burning your eyes.
It's burning your throat.
One of our great ideas is like, go upstairs and open up all the windows.
While that created some sort of suction effect and got it everywhere.
So we are shuffling people out to the back doors.
Hold on this is the stupidest event to have happened on Christmas.
There's pepper spray in that?
now. We are all out in the backyard. Parents can't find their toddlers. Grandparents are coughing
and wheezing. And then some of my cousins were pregnant. They're throwing up. Oh, God. And the dog
is inside, happy, peacefully running around still. Impervious to the pepper spray. He's completely fine,
didn't feel a thing, loving it. And so it was just a Christmas to remember. And eventually, when
everyone calmed down. They lured the dog out with some food, took it to a shelter. It was fine.
But in the meantime, we're like, that was a fun time to be pepper sprayed by Uncle Bob at
Christmas. Uncle Bob must have really unloaded. Like, what he promised was a little gentle
spray above the head, but he must have got trigger happy with it. It lasted for several days.
No. We could not get the smell out. Where is Uncle Bob in the birth order? Is he the oldest?
He's actually my mom's oldest sister's husband.
Oh, shit.
So he's not even by blood.
So the rest of the dudes are like, oh, fuck.
Why'd she marry Bob?
We've been saying this since they met.
I mean, he thought he was taking control.
He was trying to help.
This family's going to be so grateful I joined it once I deal with this dog situation.
They're always thinking I'm silly.
Also, the notion that we need to get out of the yard now.
And then what?
Get it out of the neighborhood?
Where does it stop?
Get it out of the house?
and shut the door.
Maybe throw the dead bolt,
go back to the game,
have a couple of lone stars
and call it a Christmas.
Eventually that dog's going to leave.
Yeah,
he's going to go to someone else's house
and try to get some of that holiday ham.
Yeah.
There were a lot of different options.
Pepper spray should not have been
on the roster.
Your tradition is,
I'm going to ask everyone here,
ours was always Christmas Eve
is when you'd get together
with your family.
And then, like, Christmas Day
was just for your immediate family.
Oh, interesting.
You did Christmas Day, Mom would host?
We did.
my dad's family on Christmas Eve and then my mom's family on Christmas Day. But I also have
a couple sets of stepparents. So I've got lots of Christmas. That's fun. I get to run around.
Hence the movie Four Christmases. Yes. Easter egg. Although by this, it will be out.
Okay. Spoiled egg. Cracked egg. Rotten egg. Bella, your family sounds fun. I kind of want to attend.
You would fit right in.
you guys. They would be obsessed.
Well, Bella, delightful meeting you.
Thank you guys so much for having me.
My roommate is right by me. Can she say hi?
Of course, absolutely. She's lurking behind you like a killer.
Hi.
Hi.
It's so nice to meet you guys.
And what is your name?
My name is Emma.
Emma. We have an Emma in New York.
That's right.
And did you all meet in Texas or in New York?
We actually met studying abroad together.
Where were you studying?
We were in Italy, so we were both teaching English over there, and then we were both teachers, and now we both work in finance, which is hilarious.
I know, just attached with the head.
You're so lucky.
Yeah.
How long?
I'm so jealous, too.
And it makes me mad.
Aaron never had any of the same career aspirations as me.
Like, if I could have done all that stuff with Aaron?
Yeah, but now you're doing Ted Seekers with Aaron.
Now we're retired together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, well, lovely meeting you gals.
Thank you guys so much.
Have a good rest of your day.
Okay, take care.
Doing these episodes makes me very excited for the holiday.
Me too.
What happens at the Padman's on Christmas?
Christmas Day.
Eve and Day.
We don't have Eve traditions.
Lame.
Okay, but we're Indian.
So the fact that we even do Christmas at all is a big deal.
Yeah, that's true.
They've gone out of their way, you know?
And if they come to love it, love it?
Well, your mother grew up with it, probably.
Well, I don't know when they started, but I think they have to.
did it. But then when...
When you arrived, of course, they had to go full bore, but did it infect him?
And it can't be a hard holiday to start loving.
No, no, I think my mom likes it. I like it the most.
But in the whole family, more than Neil?
Yeah.
What's wrong with Neil?
Actually, we've had this conversation.
No, but he was saying last year, the year before, he was like,
I just like, don't like Christmas as much as I used to.
He was, like, sad by...
That's because he's not a little boy.
I know, and I think he was sad about that.
Once he has kids, it'll get back.
Well, how does he feel about Halloween?
You must hate Halloween because there's really nothing to it for adults.
Yeah.
Halloween's actually great for adults because you go to parties and you like.
Everyone dresses sexy and gets drunk and drinks mistakes.
Hello, what fake name would you like?
Whatever you feel so inclined.
Sasha.
Wow.
Okay, great.
Is this real?
No, you're dreaming.
It is not.
Someone's going to shake you awake and they're going to go, Sasha, you've peed your pants.
That feels a lot more likely and realistic.
If you wake up and you've peed your pants, you might have had a seizure.
So I would go to the doctor.
This is a cautionary tale.
Okay.
Go to the doctor and have it checked out.
Go to the doctor.
You even go maybe go before.
Go before you peevee.
Should I go right now?
Yeah.
You say my friend, Monica, is pretty concerned.
I have epilepsy based on the fact that I thought that this conversation we had might be a dream.
That's right.
Where are you?
I knew you were going to ask that question.
And so to answer it, I wore this for Monica.
I don't know if she can see.
But I just wanted to say, go vol.
And I've been dying to say that.
Oh, we got to...
Tennessee.
So, Dax, I am also deeply, spiritually offended every time you say roll tide.
Oh, you are.
Well, yeah, I'm not making...
Okay, we can agree on that.
Well, let's all agree that I'm making very few friends
because that's only, like, I don't know what percentage of all colleges that exist.
So I'm, like, alienating everyone.
But the reason I think no one should be offended is I didn't even go there and I actually
don't care if they win or lose.
That's why we're offended.
We care so much.
Yeah, it's like you don't even know.
And you're just throwing out these whole...
hear of the hear of the remarks.
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The Overtime, did you watch is a few weeks ago?
I didn't watch, but I did hear.
It was insane.
Who won?
Who won?
Georgia in overtime.
And it was like barely.
The Vols University of Tennessee?
Yes.
Okay, I watched a couple games.
I guess I didn't realize they were the Vols.
But now that I'm a Nashville native, I did watch a couple.
Volunteers.
Because that's the state motto.
That's right.
The Volunteer State.
Second to that, my last sort of region.
reference was I was just listening earlier this week, and I could not believe I heard you say
that Dollywood is your new favorite theme part. Absolutely. Have you been? A thousand and sixty-eight
billion times. What could possibly be your issue with Dollywood? I mean, banjos, southern tourists
that are upset. I just, I don't. You don't like the vibe? No. Let me ask you this. Do you like
the Smoky Mountains? Do you think they're pretty? I do think they're pretty. The food's the best food I've ever had in
amusement park.
In an amusement park.
So we know it is.
It is, yeah.
Were you just upset that he was so quick to give up on his lifelong?
Yes.
This comes up a lot.
I will not prioritize loyalty over the truth.
I'm loyal to a fault.
Even at the expense of the truth?
You are that for some things.
Like, if your kids are doing something, if they're going to kill someone, you're loyal to them.
My kids, yeah.
And you should treat amusement parks the same.
I should treat amusement parks with the same respect.
Okay.
I'll have to think on that one.
Okay.
But anyways, bottomless pot roast and bottomless fried chicken, that's actually delicious fried chicken.
What about the cinnamon bread?
That's the Dollywood claim to fame.
Have you had it?
Or your gluten.
I can't fuck with it.
Right.
I didn't even have that and I still loved it.
But here's my question, Gio, it's like, if you don't hate the Smoky Mountains and you don't hate beautiful wooden roller coasters that are world class and some of the biggest on the planet, you know.
What's your favorite amusement?
Yeah.
How about that?
Let's start there.
Six Flags Over Georgia?
I do love that.
Yeah. Hell yeah. You know what? Hey, Sasha. Hook them. Okay. Hook them. Okay. Hook them. That's the real you team. Hook them. Ew. You're not allowed to say that. You have a house and back. I'm just making enemies everywhere I can. Okay. So you have a holiday nightmare. Let's get into your story. This takes place 2013, 14. So I am 19, 2021. New boyfriend. Timeline is a little iffy on some of these details. But we might have even been engaged. We went from day.
to engage in like three months.
At 19.
I mean, I'm from Tennessee,
deck.
Yeah, yeah.
But I will say it does call into question your overall judgment when it comes to
Hollywood.
No, it's just saying.
That has nothing to do with that.
That has nothing to do with your Hollywood opinion.
No, not relevant.
All.
Disagre.
Okay, so you're 19 and you're engaged.
That's the reason I'm also using a fake name is because as this story develops,
these details would not fare well with the southern crowd.
But either way, at New Partners' family's house, it was Christmas.
They are just a fun crowd, very opposite of how I grew up, conservative, no one drank, no one cursed.
Your family or his?
Mine.
I could not say fart growing up.
Oh, sure.
I see why you don't like Dallywood.
That's very southern.
I get it.
Did you have to say toot?
Flatulence?
No, tutte.
Did someone flattulence?
And if we did, even on accident or a burp, my dad was, did you just do that?
I mean, he was so upset.
So his family's a good time.
They are the best time.
Everything is alcohol.
Everything is big parties.
It doesn't matter the occasion.
I was a little nervous trying to be cool and fit into this new family and hope they like me and all those sort of things.
But we get inside.
Drinks start flowing pretty quickly.
I partake as does he.
His family also a fun detail to note is huge on spades.
Oh, I like them already.
Like that.
They're teaching me how to play spades.
It's a hard game to learn, too.
And getting in and learning while drinking.
Yeah, that's tough.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know about y'all, but there are sort of two modes I go into in drinking.
Number one is everyone is my best friend.
I love you so much.
Here's my whole life story.
What's your ACE's score?
You know, here we go.
And then number two is, are we fucking.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah, it's wonderful.
Those are adjacent, really friendly.
Let's connect.
Yeah, so we're both drinking.
We kind of give each other, you know, like a look.
And so I don't know why, but we say, okay, we'll go to the car.
We go outside.
Is it light or dark out?
Dark.
His car is the first one parked in the driveway to the side of the house, like almost nose-touching the side of the house.
Just fun detail.
It was a Volkswagen rabbit.
We get into the car.
He gets in the driver's seat, you know.
You mount him.
Correct.
Are you wearing a dress or do you got to remove pants?
I knew you were going to ask me, and I was going to give you a disclaimer that I'm not going to have all the answers to all the details.
Sure, sure, sure.
Combination of time that has passed and intoxication level, I don't remember.
I couldn't tell you to save my life.
If you get caught, pulling a skirt down is a lot easier than, where are my pants?
They were inside out because I was in a hurry.
You could have told me it was two minutes or it was 25.
I have no recollection of how long we're going about this good time.
Next thing I know, motion light comes on and he just yeats me off of him.
I mean, like, pushes me off and gets out of the car in like 0.2 seconds flat.
Chucks you into the passenger seat and he's exiting the vehicle.
Yes, he's exited the vehicle.
He is a wrecked.
He either had to pull his pants up with an erection, which is rough, or he's just out there with an erection.
Two things probably ran his favor.
The shock, being scared.
And then also, it was so cold outside.
Okay.
That was helpful.
All right.
My left foot, like my ankle, had somehow gotten stuck under the emergency break that was down.
Oh, yeah.
So when he pushes me off, the top half, like torso up, tries to follow the momentum.
and twists over into the seat,
but the ankle and the foot is not going.
It's 100% stuck.
So the next thing I know that I do also remember pretty clearly
is just like screaming out in pain that hurts.
I mean, it twisted my ankle all the way around.
He is 6-2-250.
I'm 5-1.
I'm just like screaming.
And then his uncle is like, is that you?
And like, is coming over.
That's who set the motion light off.
The uncle had come outside.
And his uncle carries me like this in.
side. Okay, you have your arms outlines if you're a baby. A cradle. Or it's like you carry a 50-pound bag of
dog food. Yes, he carries me inside because I cannot walk on that ankle, on that foot at all. I mean,
it is so down for the count. And I remember him carrying me into the house, sitting me down on the
couch. I'm still crying. Everyone has now come to the living room. Luckily, his mom and his aunt are
nurses. So they come and they help and put some ice. And does anyone ask you how you've hurt your ankle?
Yes, and Uncle sells me out in two seconds to the whole crowd.
She was riding Billy in the front seat of the foreign car.
Yes, he does.
That, to me, my 19-year-old Southern, I mean, I'm mortified.
But they love it.
This is exactly what 19-year-old should be doing at Christmas, and they know it.
Yeah, they're the one giving me drinks and making me lemon drops.
Teaching a spades?
I mean, they're getting you ready for a life of good times.
I wonder if they're like, I just hope they use protection.
They're not even worried.
That kind of calms down, settles down.
They laugh.
They think it's awesome.
I decide at some point to rejoin the Spade's table.
I'm very, very drunk.
And I remember clear as day I had my cards.
They've dealt me my hand.
And I turned to his aunt and I say,
am I the red team or the black team?
Oh, shit.
All right.
For the listener, that's not how you play.
It's nothing to do.
It's absolutely nothing to do with the game.
Not at all.
Not at all.
And so, yes, again, his mom, who was a nurse,
had crutches already at the house.
She wrapped it, gave me crutches.
I was grateful to avoid an embarrassing doctor,
urgent care trip. And the funniest part, too, is that, I think that was a Saturday. The next day
my dad had invited us, myself, boyfriend, I think his mom and sister, to like the Christmas play at
our church. Oh, boy. I get to hobble into church with my sex injury. And they're all hungover.
And they're like, oh, fuck this. And I don't remember what I told dad, but it definitely wasn't,
I was banging in the driveway at the Christmas party. Good thing. The uncle wasn't invited to the play.
Oh, because he would have blasted you. Yeah. Oh, you should have seen her.
I saw everything.
They were in a rabbit, but there was only one rabbit in that vehicle.
It was your daughter.
Did you confront the boyfriend?
Like, where'd you go?
Did he ever resurfaced?
Did we ever see him again?
When did he resurfaced?
Inside is when I remember him coming back into the memory in the picture.
He's playing spades.
He's in the party.
Yeah, that's the only thing that doesn't track about this story is that Billy's from this family.
Why is he?
Like, if that scenario happened at my house, I wouldn't have cared at all because my mom didn't care.
I'm from that family.
So I went to ran.
He got spooked.
He has another uncle who honestly, like, if he would have come out, they probably would
have, like, fist bumped or something.
This was not that uncle.
He was still very cool about it and funny and wonderful, but not as close.
Honestly, I don't even fault him.
It was probably so fight or flight.
He thought, I'm going to disappear.
My uncle's going to think she's in the car by herself.
I'm going to reenter the back of the house and pretend that she was just out there in the car.
Yeah, she was just checking to her a lot.
That's what happened.
Yeah, but I just wish he hadn't chucked her across the car, you know.
Yeah.
I wish that.
Desperate times.
Desperate measures.
He wasn't abusive, though, right?
No.
Oh, no.
No, no.
No one thinks, sweet big, big boy.
Yes, yes.
You still got to be careful.
I think fight or flight, your amygdala is firing.
I don't know.
A lot of the blood is not even in the brain at that point.
That's exactly right.
I love this story.
It's as messy as it gets.
miss it. I'm having like a little bit of sadness. You are? Yeah, those were fun times. That reminds
to me of like holidays at Aaron's aunt's house. It was just a mass. It was a big old map. But it was so
fun. Cards and drinking and smoking. Always. There was one Christmas party. Same family, same host.
We made matching outfits and I made his shirt and it said, do you want to ride my sleigh tonight?
And we put antlers in a red nose where the belt would go of his outfit. You know, we're fun.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's the kind of family where there's a fire about every third Christmas party.
Sure. There's a fire at some point in the house.
An injury, a fire. Yeah, 100%. That is fun.
Well, Sasha, this was a party. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks. A really good time.
Shout out to Olivia. We saw you twice in Chicago together.
You did.
Said boyfriend, husband was in the military, so we were stationed in Chicago when you all were there.
The Christmas show, right? And my parents were there.
Yes, the Padmans were in attendance.
They were there for that one.
This is how you know that we are next level obsessed.
She's the only person I told about this because I was convinced when I got the email from him.
I'm like, this is spam.
This is a scam.
Someone's going to ask you for $11 or something.
Yes.
And so I only told her.
I said it was today.
She texted me this morning and she said, this is the day our lives change forever.
Oh, that's so sweet.
Well, enjoy your new lives, ladies.
I hope they find their way back to a late model rabbit in the parking lot on Christmas
day because don't let go of those times too quickly. Yeah, they're fun. Thank you all so much.
This was the time of my life. Lovely meeting you. Bye. You too. Bye.
We thought that girl was telling us that her grandma died.
I laughed last night thinking about it.
Oh, so great.
Your grandmother didn't make it.
Hi.
Now, listen, your big A little ARON?
No, okay.
So A-A-R-on is running incredibly late from work.
I'm his wife, Bree.
Oh.
Yeah, so he's really sad, but he's in the car right now.
Okay.
Tell him not to crash on the way home.
He's on 85, coming in.
from Atlanta.
Oh, good luck.
And it's Friday.
You understand.
No, absolutely.
We were not going to talk to him until 7 p.m.
Seriously.
Last time I got home Friday.
I know.
It made you not.
Two hours.
I was like, I'm not going home ever again.
It's what stopped you from calling Atlanta home and started calling L.A.
That was the exact moment where you said L.A.
And you know how fucking shittier traffic is if L.A.'s traffic is preferable.
Exactly. I know.
It's shameful.
All right.
So, Rob, we'll do some magic and we'll communicate.
I'm going to put you back in the waiting room.
Sounds good.
Oh my God.
He'll be so happy.
Thank you guys so much.
Oh, and I got to meet you guys.
Bye.
Bye.
How fun an Aaron and a Bree?
That's so sad.
That was the last episode of Mom's car, Aaron and Bree.
Exactly.
Fucking Sim is lazy.
You didn't really have those Christmas parties, did you?
Yeah.
Messy?
Not at my parents.
Not at people's parents' house.
Yeah.
Not Christmas, I guess.
Yeah, it's a sacred holiday, even for the Indians.
It looks like Aaron's back if we want to take it.
Okay.
Now I get to say it.
What's your stress level, Aaron?
What's your heart rate right now?
I went through probably all the stages of grief.
Within the last probably like an hour and a half.
I don't know.
I was like, oh, it's probably not going to happen,
but you got to meet my better half.
Oh, I know we did.
She was lovely.
I don't bump into many guys who had a Bree in their life.
I know.
A Bree and an Aaron.
A Bree and Aaron.
It's so weird.
Aaron's never heard the show.
Bree made him submit.
That's fine.
I just figured that out just right now.
That's fine.
No.
He didn't know who Aaron or Bree was.
Were you working downtown?
In a hospital?
I was not downtown.
Not far from downtown, but I'm a dentist.
So I work for a non-profit dental clinic in Shambly, Georgia.
Oh.
Yeah.
Do you know Shambly?
Yeah.
I drive past Duluth.
Do you wave to my parents?
parents. I wave at the exit. We do all the ceremonial. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so you can answer a question,
and this came up on a previous interview today. What percentage of your current clients are the result of
bird or lime scooters? Personally, not very many, mostly because of their income status. They're walking,
they're taking public transportation most of the time, but I do have a friend that works in private
practice. And I don't know percentage, but I would say it's getting up there.
My theory was that pickleball and electric scooters have probably been the backbone of medicine
over the last six years, financially. Oh, thousand percent. And if you work in a college town,
like in Athens, I used to work for a dentist there, always seeing 19 to 22-year-olds coming in
with chipped front teeth, typically because you're in a bar, maybe someone bumps into you
while you're having a beverage.
Of course.
A glass bottle typically beats out enamel most days of the week.
I think I've had a couple people.
Break some tea drinking.
Break some teeth in Athens, yeah.
So many ways you can get hurt drinking.
I know.
It's not just the cirrhosis.
There's a lot on the menu.
Take your pick.
STDs.
I mean, those are very related.
Sure.
You cannot get them in a lazy river.
No, or a hot tub.
We don't know about the hot tub.
TBD for hot tub.
Did you go to Georgia?
I did.
Yeah, that's what Brie and I've actually met there.
So go dogs.
What years were you guys there at the same?
How old are you?
I'm 32.
So Monica already had moth balls by the time you joined.
Texas UGA is coming up in a couple weeks.
Oh, you're going to root.
Oh, go to hell.
Roll, hook them.
Maybe you can be Monica's guest in the box.
That's right.
I'd do that.
I'd show up in a bunch of UT gear.
No, no.
You shook up in UG gear.
UGA.
Drift.
God.
Oh, wow.
Okay, so you have a holiday nightmare story, Aaron.
Yeah, so Branda's from Maryland.
We just had a baby in August of 2023.
Congrats.
That December, we were headed up driving to Maryland to do baby's first holiday season with
her family.
The only people at that time that had met the baby where her mom flew down,
everyone else was waiting for us to come up there to meet her.
So we get up to Maryland.
We drive there, no issues.
It's Christmas Eve.
We're on our way from our hotel to my in-laws' house.
And going probably 775 miles an hour on the highway,
about a quarter mile from our exit,
get over into the right lane and going.
And then all of a sudden, big boom,
feel like I got punched in the chest.
Rihanna is immediately freaking out, baby,
I think was asleep and is now hysterically crying.
For whatever reason,
I was pretty calm.
I think it's when they say, like, one emotion can only be handled whatever percentage by each person.
So I think she had 110% of the panic.
I'm learning now this is a Georgia theory.
This is Monica's theory.
It's not my theory.
We learned it here.
And I just thought it was correct.
You should have been in my house.
There's 600% rage happening from 10 people sometimes at once.
You should have seen me in the car earlier.
I pull over into the emergency lane.
I look behind us and this old red Lincoln is slowly pulling up behind us.
I tell Brandon, I make sure the baby's okay.
I'm okay.
Get out, go.
And I walk up to the driver's side window and it's an older guy probably late 60s, early 70s.
Super apologetic.
He's like, I'm so sorry.
I think I fell asleep.
Okay.
So he rearended you.
He rearended us.
I look at the damage, not as bad as you would think, but I think that's because we were moving together.
Yeah. If we were at a standstill, I'd probably be in a neck brace still. But our trunk was kind of pushed in.
Trunk wouldn't open. So some latch was bent there. Your car or a rental? Our car. So front end of his car,
you know, it's a linket. Not too bad. We exchange information. Police and EMS end up coming just to
check everyone out. We all end up being fine. And so we end up going on our way. We get to the house,
do dinner. And that was the end of the night. So luckily everyone was was okay. Car was still driving.
The next day, Christmas morning, we wake up, we pulled baby into bed, and Brianna pretty immediately is like, something's not right.
Okay.
She feels hot to me.
I feel her.
I'm like, I mean, she's warm, but who isn't a little warm after they wake up?
You know, she's all swaddled up.
Santa came.
Yeah, exactly.
Maybe she's just excited.
Branden's like, no, we need to take her temperature.
So we go, we're looking for the thermometer.
one thing we didn't bring with us. I'm like, okay, what's open on Christmas morning?
Thankfully, CVS is. So I go to CVS, get a thermometer, come back, we go to take her temperature,
and it slowly, it starts climbing. It's gone, you know, 100, 101, 102, hits 104.
And at that point, it's still going up. We pull it out. Every baby manual tells you, like,
104. It's go time. Yeah. So we're like, okay, emergency room. So on Christmas morning,
We head over to the emergency room.
There's maybe two or three other people there.
So we're just kind of waiting to be seen.
Nurse brings us back.
They take her temperature.
They're like, yeah, she's got a fever.
Then they do a flu and COVID test on her.
She comes back negative for flu, but she is positive for COVID.
Wow.
Wow.
Unconventional.
And if you're wondering, they test babies for COVID the same way that they test big adults.
12 foot nasal swab.
Yeah, I felt bad for everyone in the situation.
I felt bad for the nurse having to do it.
I felt bad for our daughter.
How old was she at this point?
She was almost four months.
The nurse says, really, I mean, there's nothing we can do.
You take Tylenol to control her fever.
And they're like, actually infants tend to do really well with COVID.
Surprisingly, I wasn't expecting that.
So we'd get in the car, we'd go back to our Homewood Suites room, and we call her family,
and we're like, we're going to be holding down the fort here this Christmas.
So they ended up coming, doing, like, one of those.
drive-by is kind of like in retro COVID fashion where everyone was kind of waving for graduations and
things like that and put some gifts on the sidewalk the next day we get a call from Brianna's mom
and she's like, hey, so yesterday I wasn't really feeling that great this morning. I was feeling
even worse. So I took a COVID test and I'm positive for COVID. So at this point, we've been
exposed, Brian and I have been exposed to COVID. Our daughter has COVID. My mother-in-law has COVID.
and everyone that lives in that house has been exposed to COVID.
You're getting COVID.
Yeah, it's time.
It's time to reconvene.
We called our pediatrician and we're like, this isn't immoral for us to like go, like, hang out with family.
And she's like, honestly, it's your call.
You do what's in your best interest.
And so we're like, okay, fuck, it.
It's our last day here in Maryland.
We're going to go spend time with family.
We went.
That was the end of the trip.
We get back to Atlanta.
No one else ended up getting COVID.
Just my daughter, just my mother-in-law.
Christmas miracle.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. So a little bonus there. So I wish the story ended there. But there was one more cherry on top. I had given my car to the collision center to get fixed. I was given a rental car. This was probably about a month after the incident. And I'm coming home from work in the rental car. I'm pulling in our turn neighborhood. It's dark. In front of me, I see a deer run across the road. And so I slow down because typically if one deer comes across, you know, someone else is coming right behind it. No deer. So I slowly start going and boom.
I'll thud in the passenger side.
Oh, no.
I stop, and I still think I have, like, PTSD from when the guy hit us from behind
because I was, like, really kind of shook.
Yeah.
You know, why does this keep happening?
I was like, there's no way.
Leave me alone.
So I get out.
The deer's gone, but has left a nice dent and some fur and a little bit of blood on the door.
I sent Emma some pictures.
Oh, sure.
Oh, wow.
And what's interesting is that blood is quite a distance from the dead.
It must have hit and slid.
Yeah, or it's squirted.
And to get a spatter analysis in here.
That's a substantial dent.
Yeah.
I'd be pissed.
I thought I was going to get out of this car accident scot-free
without having to pay any money.
I'd end up having to pay 500 bucks to get the rental fixed.
That's so annoying.
Were you just like, I need this Christmas to be over?
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's funny is I'm Jewish.
I'm like, I'm never celebrating Christmas again.
This is why we don't celebrate Christmas.
Exactly.
Why Hanukkah is eight nights.
We spread out the good juju.
Real modest each night.
Very subtle, small gift.
We don't want to blow it all in the first night.
Well, Aaron is delightful to meet you.
Yeah, thank you for waiting for me.
Of course.
I'm glad you didn't get too stressed out.
I'm glad you didn't get another car accident on the way.
I know.
I was like, I'm going to drive as safely as possible so I don't have another story.
To be honest, because, you know, I live for stories at any, any cost.
I'd be like, God, I hope I get rear-ended because what a nice button for this story is that I even got rear-ended on the way to tell the story about getting rear-ended.
Well, some of the traffic was caused.
I looked, there was a brush fire on the side of the road, and it's like, Georgia's not typically known for brush fires.
God, I hope it doesn't take out the whole city like it did here.
Yeah.
It was nice to meet you.
Go dogs.
I was afraid you were going to use that other phrase that, you know, that irritates us.
I've proposed to Monica because I think I just like saying roll so much.
What if I said roll dogs?
And she's nothing will satisfy her other than go dogs.
You can say like, crescent rolls.
Okay.
What about, um, what rhymes with tide?
No, I don't want anything of that.
Okay, okay, okay.
We won't ensnare you in this.
Thank you for keeping me company on my drives up and down I-85.
So you're a big part of my life.
So I appreciate it.
Our pleasure.
So nice having you.
You're our kind of arm cherry.
That's right.
Yeah.
We like, yeah.
I'm one of the few husbands that pulled their wives into the folds.
Yeah, look at that.
Nice. Love that.
All right.
Have a good night.
Awesome.
I appreciate it.
Thanks, y'all.
All right.
Well, that was great.
Yeah, makes you want to not have a holiday.
No, I always want to have a holiday.
I want to have a holiday.
I want to have a holiday, too.
We hope you enjoy your holidays, arm cherries.
And keep your pepper spray stowed on this, on the holiday 20-25.
Love you.
Love you.
Do you want to sing a tune or something?
I'm going to a theme song.
Oh.
Okay, great.
We don't have a thing song for this new show, so here I go, go, go.
We're going to ask some random questions, and with the help of armcherry's book and some suggestions on the flyer rind dish, enjoy.
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