Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard - Bert Kreischer

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

Bert Kreischer (Lucky, Bertcast, 2 Bears 1 Cave) is a standup comedian, television host, and podcaster. Bert joins the Armchair Expert to discuss the fact that he would have thrived in a cont...ent house, how his discontinued flip-flops showed him the power of diversifying his talent, and why learning how to edit videos put him in the driver's seat of his career. Bert and Dax talk about why Florida and Australia are the closest cousins in the world, the truth being that he’s extremely sensitive, and when he started the tradition of pooling tips at his live shows to change one staff person’s day. Bert explains his father’s brutal approach to giving him the humility he needed that actually worked, the origin story of his topless standup performances, and how he had to take a break to find the smile in his joke again in his new special Lucky.Follow Armchair Expert on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new content on YouTube or listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/armchair-expert-with-dax-shepard/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple podcasts, or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Buck Rogers and I'm joined by Jean Lightyear. Hi. Hi, everyone will know who Bert Kreischer is.
Starting point is 00:00:22 When I describe a jolly man with no shirt on who does stand up, he does not do his profession with a shirt on. Yeah. It's not for him. It's a thing. Too cumbersome. Too much fabric.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Too much fabric. It doesn't declare I wanna party hard enough. That's right. And he is all about partying. He really is. He is. He was also, he was crowned that early on. Yeah, once you get that moniker in college, you gotta make it a lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:00:53 And boy has he, successfully. Very successfully. Burt, of course, is a host of a couple of very popular podcasts, Two Bears, One Cave, and Something's Burning, and Burtcast. And he has been in The Machine, Razzle Dazzle, The Cabin, Burt the Conqueror, Secret Time, and he has a comedy special out right now on Netflix called Lucky. So please check that out if you haven't already, and please enjoy B Bert Kreischer. He's an up-chair expert. He's an up-chair expert.
Starting point is 00:01:29 He's an up-chair expert. He's an up-chair expert. He's an up-chair expert. He's an up-chair expert. I find it rude showing up to a podcast on time. When I show up on time, I should show up like five minutes late to let them get settled.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So today I was like, I didn't know your energy. So I didn't want to assume when I get to a podcast, I'm like, when I say two o'clock, it means I'll get there at two o'clock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, and so I feel bad when people get there early and they're waiting on me.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And then I'm like, I'm so sorry. I decided to walk to work. Yeah, and you have it nearly as bad as me which is you record in a house. I just said I can't believe I'm at your house it's so intimate. Yeah yeah yeah yeah is it a good or a bad idea you think? It depends on who you have on your podcast. I have lunatics on my podcast. The night that we decided we no longer do in our house it was me Sam Tripoli and Eddie Bravo, my daughter, Isla, my daughter, Georgia, and Eddie Bravo and Isla were learning Jiu-Jitsu moves.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And we're all high and we're all by the fire pit. And Isla's like, Mom, I'm learning Jiu-Jitsu. It was really fun. But my wife's like, all right, just so we were clear, that energy, we're not gonna welcome that into our house every time we have a guest. It's a little bit aggressive. She's like, I like Eddie, I like Sam,
Starting point is 00:02:42 but I don't know if we're gonna just, anytime you have a band that wants to stick around, and we had a band doing coke in our bathroom the other day. Yeah, maybe keep those kids away from that. I try to go, ladies, do you know who this is? And then they're like, no. Yeah. I was like, shit, this is Gavin Rossdale.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Do you know who Gwen Stefani is? And they're like, yeah. I go, oh God, can you guys hug him or something? He's a legend. The only one that they ever got mad at me for not introducing them to was Tony Hawk. Oh, okay. Oh, we love Tony. They were like, you had Tony Hawk here, dad?
Starting point is 00:03:11 It's hard to know what they're gonna know, right? They're what, 19 and 20, your daughters? 19 and 20, Slipknot was a big home run, Five Finger Death Punch, brought daughter Isla's into that kind of music. So how many years ago did you stop recording at home? Cause I went to a house, but that's not where you were living. That is just our studio.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Probably three years ago. And that's good, right? It's just good across the board. Best energy in the world. I'm a natural extrovert. So I draw energy from people. And so to walk into a creative space like that, like I would have really thrived
Starting point is 00:03:39 in one of those content houses. Those content houses that kids did. What's that? What do you mean what's that? I don't know what a content house is. I was acting like I did. I thought I could context clues, figure that out. There's no way Dex knows what a content house is.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Back in the day, they get a thing called Sway House. Now I'm going to sound so fucking old. Is this MTV? No. No. That's ridiculous Monica. Bryce Hall. Do you know who that is? No. Okay. This is worse than being caught
Starting point is 00:04:06 looking at porn at your kids school. I'm really embarrassed. I'm telling you that I followed this. We're ignorant. It's never good luck. The Paul brothers did it. They get big on TikTok and then they'd move their friends in and then all day long they just create content. Oh, okay. I was 45 when they were doing that 42. There was one that lived on the street for me. I was so jealous I had a family kids a beautiful wife dogs and I drive by there and go these kids are living it Yeah, and they lived in mansions in the hills and they just like their pool on fire Yeah, so you still feel like oh man or you feel like I had my time I feel like I got it now in my house. I go there. I'm not lighting pools on fire But today we had a creative meeting for a sitcom first day of productions. Everyone comes in they move out
Starting point is 00:04:52 We got a movie pitch they come in move out. We got three podcasts It was a fervor of activity when I showed up for anyone who didn't listen to that episode of two bears one cape I roll up and there's a tour bus in the driveway. I'm immediately Engraciated to you. I'm like, no one else has this in their driveway in LA. This is great. Yeah. And then I go inside and there's people everywhere
Starting point is 00:05:11 and I'm like, they have a big business. There's a lot happening. Well, there's touring, there's TV, there's movies, there's podcasts, and then there's the vodka, there's the 5K cooking show. And that's the beautiful thing about this is whatever idea, I mean, I have my own fucking flip flop. Oh God, let's see this.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And is it merged? Listen, this is gonna sound so detached. But once you get a certain level in success, you get to kind of just call your own shots. So there was a flip flop that I liked, and they stopped making it. So I started cyber bullying them. I said, everyone online, just hit them up,
Starting point is 00:05:39 tell them that this is bullshit, that they're not making my flip flop anymore. Or can I live without these? The guys that own the company hit me up, and they're like, hey, man, we're not doing great in business. And I was like, well, then let me help. And my first thought was like, I need size 12s.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Just give me a thousand and I'll wear them for the rest of my life. He's only a paid. Are they reefs? No, they're free waters. They're great flip flops. OK. And then I said, well, wait, how many do you need? I don't need any money in the company. Give me a price point where it's financially beneficial for you to make flip flops. Because if you can sell like five thousand flip flip-flops, I'd do it.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I went, great. I said, make 5,000 in my style, the kind I like. Put my name on it, I don't care, but I'll sell them to my fans. We sold them in like 15 minutes. Nice. Really? And at that point, I realized, oh, there's bigger things in this business.
Starting point is 00:06:16 You're extremely ADHD, right? Yes. And I was thinking, oh, what a perfect time you were born in to come of age where you could be doing 57 different things and there's no barrier to entry and self-distribution. We started at a time when that wasn't it. We had to get christened by a gatekeeper, which was so frustrating. I remember getting my first camera.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It was a GL-2. It was a Sony or Canon GL-2. And I shot shorts. I just needed to do. And I edited them and I gave them to my manager and he goes, what am I supposed to do with these? At that moment I thought this needs to go away. Cause I was like, I know I see stuff and I like it. And I was like, what about the guys from South Park
Starting point is 00:06:53 who made the Jesus fights Santa Claus? They made something. Now everyone sees it. I got really bored when I was a travel channel and I started doing a vlog. I got really into Casey Neistat, Mr. Ben Brown. Fun for Louis. You're so good with names I just gotta say.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I've been watching you all day on different interviews and your recall for people. And how much you're abreast of every comedian that's working, all that, it's kind of staggering. I can tell you things I like. I love being a fan of shit. There's no sexier feeling in the world. I hope someone's getting this right now.
Starting point is 00:07:19 This is the coolest feeling you'll ever get in the world, is when you discover something and you like it and you deep dive and you find so much more shit and you're like, oh, I haven't even started. It is so fun. You know, I'll tell you this, I'm a big Grateful Dead fan. I've been lucky enough to be around them, dead in company. I'm grounded in the sphere.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I'm going back to the sphere. Will you do drugs when you do that? Cause you're not into drugs. I'll drink. You won't do like mushrooms or something for that? No, no, no, no, no. It also feels scary at the sphere. You don't need anything.
Starting point is 00:07:42 The sphere is that good. Exactly. I got so moved at the Sphere for you too, that David Copperfield left our box. Because? I was crying aggressively. My daughters could not stop laughing. They were filming all of it. Wow. And I was just sobbing. The older I've gotten, I've gotten very emotional.
Starting point is 00:07:55 But I'm a big Dead fan. I love when you discover something. Yes. And so for me, it was vlogging. I've discovered Casey Neistat and Mr. Ben Brown. When I found these guys, I got turned on. I started deep diving them. And I was like, this is sexy,
Starting point is 00:08:08 that they're in control of everything. And I started doing my own vlog. Very simple at first, a little more complex, and people followed it. And I got made fun of. I mean, trust me, Rogan lit me up a couple times. Really? Where I was like, we're gonna film us playing pool.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And he was like, the fuck? We just did a podcast. Yeah, yeah. But I got really into it. And in doing that, I just learned how to edit videos. When I learned how to edit videos, I realized I was now in the driver's seat of my own career because I could put out whatever content I needed out
Starting point is 00:08:34 on whatever timeline I needed it to promote whatever show I needed. And in doing that, I think I learned to follow my heart. Well, it's a great era for someone with your makeup, probably ADHD, super crazy passionate right now about the thing. My hunch is if you can't knock it out in a small window, it's gone, right? Is that fair? They put pilot in Hollywood. That means we're making your pilot. They buy it with the commitment to make the pilot. At NBC, shout out to Tal Rabinowitz. I knew her when she was
Starting point is 00:09:03 assistant. I walked into the room. She's now running NBC. She was always cool. She was like, say less. Done. And then a best friend started fat shaming me. What year was this? This was 2016, I think.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I had just gotten fired from Travel Channel. I already knew how to edit everything. I knew how to vlog and Tom started fat shaming me and I was like, I know Tom doesn't know how to do any of this shit. I'm going to destroy him. And so I started fat shaming him. At one point, my manager and agent called my wife and they were like, hey, we need Burt's notes on the pilot.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And she was like, oh, he's done. And they're like, what? She was like, it took too long, he's done. He's onto this fat shaming thing. Yes. He's not gonna do it. You're white hot, but it's got a real short half life. If it's not there right away, I'm onto the next thing.
Starting point is 00:09:43 But what amazing technology that has sprouted up where you make real-time content and it can be released that day and you see the results of it and then you're onto the very next thing. This is not a personality type that works under the old paradigm. No.
Starting point is 00:09:58 All right, but let us start at the beginning. Shoot. Tampa, Florida, 1977. 72, 52. Yes, yes, 1977. 72, 52. Yes, yes, I'm 75. I made you younger than me. My two writers on my show were like, you're meeting Darc Shepard today?
Starting point is 00:10:11 And I was like, yeah. And they're like, how old is he? I went, probably like 40. And they're like, he's fucking 40? And I was like, I don't know. And they're like, you were just with him. How do you not know how old he is? And I was like, I don't think he seems young as shit.
Starting point is 00:10:23 He's got a full head of hair, he's jacked. Look at you, that's so nice. He took the steps two at a time on the way up to the studio. Oh, you shaved 10 whole years off, how nice. That's really kind of you. Well, and then I just gave you five years. November 72, you arrive, St. Petersburg,
Starting point is 00:10:37 but then we get to Tampa. Yeah, I shot my special in St. Petersburg. Specials comes out on Netflix March 18th, Lucky, and I shot it in St. Petersburg Petersburg very emotional. Okay, so Tampa, Florida Dad was a real estate attorney. Yeah, so was he crushing? No, my dad doesn't like me talking about this, but he doesn't listen to your podcast Yeah, so I think we're safe. Yeah. Yeah, I was talking about our own Rogan one time where I guess I can't be real So I call my dad. I go. Hey, yo dad, do you ever rest? Is that dot dot dot? He's like, yeah, I was like cool. I'm on Rogan. He goes what don't fucking tell people
Starting point is 00:11:04 Why you can't tell people who I represented But they have a building right on this road the people he represented have a building on this road very big building a mile that way Scientology He met an author okay wonderful the author loved boats I mean you'd think the guy lived on a boat. And then he did build a boat he lived on. Yeah, yeah. We lived in what I would say a white trash neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I apologize if there's anyone that grew up with me. Not my second neighborhood, not Faircloth Estates, but the first neighborhood was white trash. I remember in first grade, I went over to this dude, Darren, and we used to play football together. Darren, Darren lived on that street. And he was with a chick. And I just went up and my ball was like, yo, we're playing football together. Darren Darren lived on that street. He was with a chick. And I just went up with my balls like,
Starting point is 00:11:47 yo, we playing football today. And he's like, buddy, I'm fingering a girl right now. I was like, my bad. In first grade. First grade. Oh my God. I hope she was in second grade at least. He had to be in like eighth grade.
Starting point is 00:11:58 They were older. Oh, I thought he was a fellow first grader. That story came out weird. Yeah. I know, I was like, oh my God. That's like when I said to someone, no, I was drinking with a bunch of miners. And they're like, what?
Starting point is 00:12:08 And I was like, yeah, they were fucking fun. And they're like, where were you? I said, West Virginia. Coal miners. Yeah, it's coal miners. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing? Grew up in white trash.
Starting point is 00:12:17 My dad gets this one client, promised a big money, buys a house for like, I don't even know, $130,000. In 82, that's a lot. It's big. Three bedrooms, office downstairs, on a lake, no pool. You add no pool. That was our pool. Gator pun.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Dude, there are signs that you grew up in Florida and it is you're hyper aware of gators and snakes. I've never once walked across my lawn and not watching my feet land. Yeah. That's Florida. And I never have gotten in a fucking lake and just thought this will be fun as a kid you go I just like feed up. I don't want to get it
Starting point is 00:12:48 Well, my mom will like that I tell this story She was water skiing in Florida as a young 20 something year old She saw alligators and then she fell and she was too terrified to let go of the tow rope And she was drugged behind the boat so long that it gave her an enema and she shit her bathing suit. That's Florida water skiing for you right there. Public enema number one. You might shit yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:11 God dang. Dude, Florida's so fucked up. I think Florida and Australia, the closest cousins you get in the world. Everything can kill you in Australia. The weakest people in the world, Germans. That's a hot topic. There's nothing scary there, you're saying.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Nothing. They're gonna have wolves. In Australia, have you ever been to Australia There's nothing scary there, you're saying. Nothing. They don't have wolves. In Australia, have you ever been to Australia? Oh yeah. Or especially in Northern Australia. Every sign is written in English and in German because Germans have lived this carefree life with no snakes, no alligators.
Starting point is 00:13:36 They have deer. Maybe a raccoon. Maybe. And so they go, this water looks fun. And then gators got them in its mouth. Oh. And they get the great whites. It's teeming with man killers down there.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Fuck Australia's dangerous. Yeah, it is. So as a car guy, the weird thing is I would go to Florida and everyone drove a Mustang Nutschback LX five liter. They were only sold in Florida. People always got a hatchback. I don't know why they all liked that, but it was all kids living with their grandparents
Starting point is 00:14:03 because their parents had kicked them out. I mean, there's a huge contingency of people just living with their grandparents, their parents had kicked them out. I mean, there's a huge contingency of people just living with their grandparents, which is a wild group. Were you running into that a lot? I was not. That's more central Florida? No, that's more Northern Florida.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Okay, like Orlando-y? Yeah, like Ocala. I was in Seabrean a lot. So that's Southwest Coast, Florida. Yes. No! It's central mid-state. We'd fly into Orlando. You're not watching this.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That won't be entertaining, but the look Monica just gave me. Anytime I talk about geography, which I can't resist. It was like 14 minutes of trying to figure out. And she's like, no one gives a flying fuck where Seabream, Florida is. And she's right.
Starting point is 00:14:38 No one. But we care. I just said to someone the other day, the best geography joke ever was Homer Simpson. And he goes, who cares about Canada all tucked away down there? Exactly. Back to Tampa. Dad has this client now. That's all we can say about that. Cause I would certainly need to know more. I read that book going clear and him floating around on a fucking boat. The way to dance around it. Things that seem interesting in your life are just your life. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:15:04 I don't really remember. All I know is that we got into move into a nice house in a nicer neighborhood based on the client. And then the client allegedly just kind of bounced. And then we had a house with no furniture in it. But from the street, you guys look like you're killing it. But if you walked in our house, you're like, oh, did you just move in? You're like, no, we've been here a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Right. And did you have a complex around that? No, it's weird. What doesn't bother me? No, it's weird what doesn't bother me. And then it's weird what bothers me. Yeah, what bothers you? Cause you seem to have a very thick skin and you're very self-deprecating. So it's hard to know what would trigger you.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I'm extremely sensitive. I'll give you a perfect example. When I talked shit about you on Two Bears. Yeah, right. And then I heard that it came to you. I got really upset about it. Wait, I don't know this. We are definitely talking about this.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Well, quite simply, I had been told in comments that I got made fun of on Two Bears by Bert. It was just Tom lights me up and pokes me. And I like talking wild on a podcast. It's part of being on a podcast. And he's like, Dax Shepard's fucking killing it. Maybe I'll get him on here as a guest baron. I was like, fuck Dax Shepard.
Starting point is 00:16:03 He was like, what? And I go, dude, he just started podcasting last week and it's the number one podcast in the world. Yeah, it's all very legit. I've been doing this for nine fucking years. What's funny is I'm aware of that. I come to expect that. But then somehow I see a video of Bert telling a story
Starting point is 00:16:18 where he said, I feel really bad that I made fun of Dax Shepard. And he did this incredible thing, which he sent me merch. Which I didn't do, but an armchair he did. Wait, what? Someone sent him our merch. Oh, our merch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And he thought it was from me. And he was like, oh, what a cool- It destroyed me. It was during the pandemic and I got it in my PO box. And I was like, oh my God. And here's the thing. I am like a day one ride or die for Dax. For real, when Punk came out, first of all,
Starting point is 00:16:42 I know I told you this, he looks like my best friend growing up, Ryan Valerius. When he came on there, he even looked more like him then. And I was like, that's my fucking guy. You expect your movie stars to just stay movie stars and not get in your lane. And when they get in your lane, you're like, dude, you're already a fucking movie star. You're already married to a fucking movie star. I totally understand. And I would be fucking annoyed. And then we hashed this all out on his show and it was lovely.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I've done that to a few people. And so when it happens to me, I understand it more. It's helpful, right? When you go like, all right, it's the same thing I did. I don't even mean it. They probably don't mean it either. You're looking for a funny take. Like I went off on alcoholism. I went off on people who quit drinking.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Right. Oh, I also did. Did you hear this? No, it was bad. Anyone in the program got really upset with you. What were your points? My point was, if you're thinking about quitting drinking, don't. It's not the alcohol, it's you.
Starting point is 00:17:28 So have a drink and let's figure this out. Let's talk it out over drinks. My whole point was, I know so many people who have quit drinking but didn't fix the problem. Well, I agree with you there. Yeah. Let's not say it's alcohol. Let's say it's you.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And it was just to make Tom laugh. And I got lit up by friends in the program. Listen, I'm so pro drinking, I'm so pro drugs. Everyone that can do it should be doing it as much as they can. I'm doing it tonight. I gotta shoot something tomorrow, and I was like, I don't wanna look bloated.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And then I was like, ah, I already look bloated. Who gives a shit? People are gonna recognize me if I'm not bloated. You're kind of bloated and a lot of bloated. I have to drink to keep up my personality. But what I would say about that point is simply to address the you that is the problem, which I would agree with.
Starting point is 00:18:08 It's best to do that not drunk. You're not the most objective version of yourself when you're trying to do some self analysis is when you're feeling very confident and better looking than you are. We were in Orlando and I had tied one on really heavy the night before and we had to do a podcast at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And I sat down and I was off, I go, I need a six pack. And Tom's like, what are we doing here, buddy? And I was like, you know what, fuck you. This was before the podcast, he's like, what? And I go, bring it up, say something, I dare you. And then they bring in the thing and he goes, we think maybe it's a little early to have a beer. I go, you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:38 And then I went on this rant and then a few people that I really care about that are in recovery reached out really upset and that bothered me. Then it went viral and I was like, nah, fuck you. I would have never shamed you for it. Danny Trejo stood by me. He's like, yeah, you got to fix the problem in you. It's not the booze.
Starting point is 00:18:51 If it's not that, it's going to be jerking off for sex. We'll just talk to anyone in their first year of sobriety. They're either fucking nonstop. They've started online gambling or something. The best feeling in the world is gambling. Oh, scary. The heart race. Where you've had to battle it or no? No, no, no, no. Just when feeling in the world is gambling. Oh, scary. The heart race. Where you've had to battle it or no?
Starting point is 00:19:07 No, no, no, no. Just when you got the nuts, your cards are on the table and another card lands and it's your card and you don't know what he has and your heart, nothing in the world would I trade for that moment. I remember my number's 11. I always put money on 11.
Starting point is 00:19:20 During the pandemic, I was in a casino. I put $100 on 11. Lady had a mask on. All eye contact contact spins it She's watching it it hits 11 and I watch her eyes dark and me and her and that feeling of hitting 11 and I've had two Children better than the birth of either So good, I split it with her Oh beautiful. So that's a thirty six hundred dollar payout And I should never have split it with her cuz she doesn't get it. It goes to the fucking house
Starting point is 00:19:42 No, they get their tips. No, she puts it in the bucket. We're gonna fact check that they gotta get their tips. It's like you're giving money to a homeless guy on the side of the road and he goes, yeah, I'm gonna split it with all of us. You go, ugh. Well. I want you to have it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I get that. First of all, what scenario did you just paint? There's no way any dude is like, I'm sharing it with all these people. I used to do a thing called wait staff raffle. I just did it as a lark. It was the first time I ever sold out a show. It's the very beginning of me starting to sell tickets. And there was a snowstorm and I got bonus
Starting point is 00:20:08 to a hundred dollars. Or maybe it was more, but I had a hundred dollars. And I said, I'm going to give it to the whole staff. And then I realized, well, that's only 10 bucks a person. Doesn't seem that big. And then I said, I'm going to give it to one person. That's the thing I look for in life. If I'm addicted to anything, it's the sparkle of a moment, the sensation when you go for me, you know? And so I said, you know what I'll do? And I got on stage and I said, here's the deal. This waitstaff, they've been busting their ass and they're gonna probably walk with maybe 120 bucks
Starting point is 00:20:33 tonight, which is good money, but we can make one of them really feel the moment. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna pass around my hat and just put in whatever you have. Don't take it away from your tip. Just if you got like 10 or 20, just throw it in. Five bucks is fine, and I'm gonna put $100 in. And we got $700 that night.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And we pulled a name out of all the wait staff. One girl came up on stage, starts crying. This is a fucking powerful moment. I don't know if you'll get it as much as me because you never a poor dad, but she said, I get to buy the nice car seat now. As a poor dad. I remember going to Target with Leanne when we were broke,
Starting point is 00:21:09 looking at car seats and you'd see the good car seat and you're like, this is my baby's life. And I gotta get the cheaper one, cause I'm a fuck up. That's a lot. So wait, it gets better. You ready for this one? And you can find this one online.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So I start doing it and it's fun. And I tell them, I said, we'll do it every show. Five of you will walk away with like a thousand bucks a night extra. And they loved it. And then we were in Louisville, we'll do it every show. Five of you will walk away with like a thousand bucks a night extra. And they loved it. And then we were in Louisville, Kentucky. Last show on Sunday and we've been doing it the whole week. And I pull a name, I go, Kevin, you don't want dudes to win.
Starting point is 00:21:33 You don't want a guy to win, man. There's already a pay gap. Just go make some money. And he's black. You don't want black dudes to win. No, I disagree now. You're talking to a pro. I put my 10,000 hours and I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Black guys have a hard time with vulnerability. They try to be funny. They're not gonna share like a white chick or a black chick will share. Black guys are a little standoffish. But it's Kevin, I go, Kevin. And I am proved 100% wrong. Yeah, I had a hunch that you were not on firm ground
Starting point is 00:21:57 with this opinion. Yeah, I was like, yeah. You think I was gonna go down as a racist? I know, I was like, oh God. I'm gonna keep the money. They've had enough. Yeah, they've been handed everything. They're fucking born on third base.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I bring him up on stage and he is trying to hold it together. And he's like, good looking out, thank you. You can find the video online. I'm gonna over exaggerate for you listening cause I want you to feel it, but you can watch it and it is just as moving. And I go, Kevin, you seem a little emotional. He goes, no.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Oh, I'm gonna get emotional telling you this. I said, buddy, I'm looking at you. What's going on? And he goes, no, I'm good. Thank you, everybody, thank you. And I said, what are you gonna do with this money? And he said, Saturday is my daughter's birthday. Now I get to throw her the party she wanted
Starting point is 00:22:41 and I get to be the dad she thinks I am. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. party she wanted and I get to be the dad she thinks I am. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude stands up, walks $100, get that for your daughter. The whole fucking room starts coming out. Throwing money at fucking,
Starting point is 00:22:55 my God, fucking make it rain. It was awesome. We had wild moments doing that. That's what I love in life. Oh, for sure. Okay, we must get to how you're here. So Tampa Jesuit School shocker to me. Loved it, define me.
Starting point is 00:23:08 You describe yourself as a dumb dumb all the time. It's kind of part of your onstage persona. You can't get to a Jesuit school and be a dumb dumb. They specialize in making people very critical thinkers, challenging of opinions. You'd be shocked at how many dumb dumbs are in my phone right now. That are all Jesuit graduates.
Starting point is 00:23:24 The funniest dudes ever. My group of friends in high school, without a doubt, were the funniest individuals I've ever known in my life. So then you go to Florida State, and this is important. You're there for how many years? Six or seven? Six and a half. Year six of his enrollment at Florida State, Rolling Stone is in search of the biggest party school. They do an article and they crown Bert the hardest partying guy at the hardest partying school.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Stop. That's a crown. And you kind of have a moment of celebrity all of a sudden in your sixth year. It's the best. It's my first taste of celebrity. I'll tell you, it was intoxicating. And clearly every kid on that campus read that article. It's every one news possible that they got crowned that. Everyone did. So it was a different time then. I think the real world and road rules was around, but celebrity wasn't as attainable as it is now. Overnight, it changed my life.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Every publication wanted to write about me. There were like these tabloid news shows that would happen like five o'clock in the afternoon, American journal. They all flew down. They spent spent time with me Oprah wanted me and my parents to do it Oliver Stone optioned the rights to my life Stop, I met Oliver Stone. This is the most bizarre It's the craziest set of life experiences you could ever imagine having especially as like a 25 year old kid I had no plans for anything. I didn't know what I was going to do I was figuring I'll move to Aspen and just Try to work on a ski lift or something,
Starting point is 00:24:45 live with my friends. And then this happens. I still didn't know what to do with it. And in the article I'd said I wanted to do standup, this radio show was like, yo, we'll let you do standup. Now they were doing it to watch me fail. And then they'd have content for Monday. They put me last on the list of four professional touring
Starting point is 00:24:59 comics at a place called Pop Bellies, still there. I just went there the other day in Tallahassee and I did 20 minutes and it was stream of consciousness Oh, I had nothing. Was the house packed with your now devotees from campus? No one would have been there if it wasn't me. It was all friends I was in a group called scalp hunters, which were the heads of all of attorney So all of the turns there I was with my dad when I did the Emily arena in Tampa and Derek Brooks You know Derek Brooks is now Hall of Famer played for the box played at Florida State. He says with my dad when I did the Emily arena in Tampa and Derek Brooks, you know Derek Brooks is? No.
Starting point is 00:25:25 A Hall of Famer, played for the box, played at Florida State. He says to my dad, he goes, it's amazing to see where he's at now from where he started. My dad goes, huh? And Derek goes, I was at his show at Pop Peles. Oh wow. I was like, shit. So yeah, it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But I did great. Radio show offered me a gig on their show. They were like, we thought you'd bomb. Why don't you come in, do third Mike? Wow. This is nuts. Cause normally you're chasing fame and it takes forever. And then you maybe get it or you don't you come in to third Mike? Wow. This is nuts, because normally you're chasing fame and it takes forever and then you maybe get it or you don't.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Fame found you. You're like, oh, I like this. How on earth do I keep this going? This sounds shallow. I don't know why, but when you're just like an average looking dude, you become funny so people pay attention to you. And then when you're funny, people pay attention to you.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But the thing you were looking for is what good looking guys have where people are like, what's that guy's name? I was never the guy where if you're with a group of girls, they're like, do you know who we have to set Jennifer up with? And you'd be like, please say my name, please say my name. And they'd be like, Derek, he is hilarious. I'm like, Derek does fucking impressions of Ace Ventura. He's not fucking funny. And so then I remember eating at a blimpies and these hot girls were staring at me. Perfect location
Starting point is 00:26:22 for this story. It couldn't have been a better location. Pop Bellies is the first fucking stand up. My god, my mom was obsessed with Blimpies. Oh, Blimpies subs are fucking legit. But I'm from Georgia, that's why. Duluth. Exactly, nice.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, my wife's from Georgia. What part? Bowden, it's a really small redneck town. Sorry, anyone from Bowden listening. No, shout out. Anyway, fame felt good. Well, the gals were staring at you, did they talk to you?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Came over, sat down with us. It filled holes that I didn't know I had, but I knew were there. Dude, we all wanna be the gorgeous quarterback of the football team. We wanna know what it's like to just walk down the hall and people turn and they look at you. If a girl said she wanted to have sex with me,
Starting point is 00:26:58 and this happened a couple times, especially in college, my initial thought was what's wrong with her? Cause I go, that doesn't happen to me. Yeah, something's weird about this I mean it was the craziest and the access you had to life I remember ESPN sent two young actors down to hang out with me shoot a commercial and party One of those actors was Johnny Knoxville. Oh, come on And this is like insane stories the things that have happened me in life just shouldn't track and we partied He showed me can Kill Yourself videos
Starting point is 00:27:25 of them trying to break beer bottles on their head. And we took pills, we drank, he threw himself down a flight of stairs, we ended up dressed as women. The original content house. It was everything you wanted. You were a member of Jackass for a night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 It's probably five years before Jackass. I know this sounds fake. Johnny knows this is real. He was writing articles for Big Brother at the time and he pitched me Jackass in his kitchen. Wow. Anyway, it filled holes. And so I moved to New York Big Brother at the time and he pitched me jackass in his kitchen. Wow. Anyway, it filled holes. And so I moved to New York going like,
Starting point is 00:27:48 the fame shit's for me. Yes. How do I get more of this? And I got a job at the Boston Comedy Club, working the door to get stage time and I sucked. And I was like, okay, hold on. You had no friends there. And it looked like fame all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:28:00 was really fading quickly. You know those pictures on Michael J. Fox and his brothers and sisters where they start disappearing? Oh, and Back to the Future. Back to the Future, yeah, yeah. It was know those pictures of Michael J. Fox and his brothers and sisters where they start disappearing? Oh, and Back to the Future. Back to the Future, yeah, yeah. It was just a picture of my head. Everything was gone.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I was like, yo, if I don't get famous quick. You realize you were on minute 17. Yeah. Of the 15 minutes. Ugh. You're like, uh-oh. I mean, I auditioned for MTV's Who Wants to Be a VJ. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Sure, sure, yeah, yeah. With Dave Holmes and Jesse. And then I started getting good at standup. Well, quicker than I should have. Well, let's talk about your dad though. One second, because I know this part from when I was on your show. Your dad lets you have it at one point.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah. This to me on the surface sounds like the wrong approach, but it really worked for you. Tell Monty what happened. On my 26th birthday, I woke up, no air conditioner, in New York on a leather couch, hungover as shit. It's probably 9.30. And the phone rings.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's my dad. I look at his ID. He probably just wants to wish me happy birthday. I'll let him do it and I'll go back to sleep. I was like, hey, what's up? He was like, you are a tremendous piece of shit. And I was like, what? He goes, I just perjured myself in court.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I have never perjured myself. The judge said, Mr. Kreischer, how's your son doing in New York? And I said, fantastic, your honor. That's a lie. You have no humility. You are a fucking party boy. You have nothing. You don't deserve what you have.
Starting point is 00:29:11 He really broke me off. Now I'm sitting up sweating still. I go, it's my birthday. Yeah. That's a fair response. Daddy, it's my birthday. And he goes, I know what fucking day it is. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:29:23 That's why I'm calling you. I remember saying, well, how do I fix it? And he goes, you can't. He goes, I fucked up and it's my problem. I'll deal with it. I'll help you out. We'll figure this out together, but just have fun. Be a party boy.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And I was like, hold on. Oh, even worse. He's resigned. And by the way, he wasn't doing the fake thing of like, it wasn't reverse psychology. Run away you stupid dog. Yeah, yeah. He had like given up completely.
Starting point is 00:29:41 You're a fucking mulligan. You're going to be a failure forever. Let's game plan that Yeah, I was like dad stop for real I want to fix this and he goes you don't have the skills to fix it What you need is humility that is what you don't have You're too proud to do with someone that wants something will do and he goes it's my fault You should have worked in warehouses. You should have done the hard work. You didn't do it
Starting point is 00:30:01 So I fucked up and I was like, hang on. This is like a rough one I remember my sister's laughed out loud but I told him, I go, tell me what I need to do. And he goes, if you want my advice tonight, you go to that comedy club you go to and you ask for a job, you tell them you'll do anything. You'll mop the floors. And I go, okay, I can't do it tonight
Starting point is 00:30:15 because I have a birthday party planned. One more day is a piece of shit, please. It's like a junkie going, can I party on the plane? I already bought some, can I get through that? We'll go to go to treatment after he goes you don't deserve a party What are you celebrating my sisters are like that's so dad right there and he goes you've got nothing you're a piece of shit That article was 20 months ago. It was oh and I said, okay I'll do what you said what if they say no and he was doesn't matter you just fucking go So I went to the club one of the sky Louis Schaefer I said, hey, my name is Bert Christy right and he goes I know you are and I said, okay, I'll do what you said. What if they say no? And he goes, doesn't matter, you just fucking go. So I went to the club,
Starting point is 00:30:46 one of these guy Louis Schaefer, I said, hey, my name is Bert Kreischer. And he goes, I know who you are. And I said, I would like a job. I'd like the opportunity to do standup. I came to be a standup. I'll clean up, I'll mop up, I'll put chairs out, I'll do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And he said, can I give you my advice? And I said, sure. He said, move back to Florida. Ooh. I was like, cool. So I went to the Baggot Inn, had a drink, went down to McDougal Ale House, met my friends, celebrated my party, woke up the next day, called my dad and I was like, didn't work.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And he goes, perfect. You show up again tonight, you say the same thing. And if he stops you, you say, here's the deal, buddy, I'm looking for an opportunity and I'm going to keep asking you this question every single night for the rest of your God-given life until you give me an opportunity. So I go, dad, I'm gonna look like a fool. He goes, no, no, no. He goes, I want you to think about a young black kid in Harlem who doesn't have evidence we can give you and think how hard he's going to fight for that opportunity. So I go, Dad, I'm gonna look like a fool. He goes, no, no, no. He goes, I want you to think about a young black kid in Harlem who doesn't have evidence being
Starting point is 00:31:26 given to you and think how hard he's going to fight for that opportunity. So you think how lucky you are. So I walked in the next night. I was like, Hey, Louis Schaefer, my name is Burke Chrysler. And he goes, didn't I tell you to move back to Florida? I go, Hey, man, here's the deal. Okay. My dad called me a piece of shit yesterday. I was supposed to have a party. I didn't even really get to have a party. It was easier in college. This seems so much easier when it was given to me. And working for it seems so difficult. And he said, I'll put you out front and you bark.
Starting point is 00:31:51 If you can bring in 20 people, I'll give you 20 bucks. I'll give you a dollar for everyone you bring in and I'll put you on at the end of the night. And I went, deal. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare. At 24, I lost my narrative, or rather it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks, both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up. They connected with the people that I'm talking to and leave with maybe some nuggets
Starting point is 00:32:50 that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. If you're a comedy fan, this is fascinating. Two things happened that night. Patrice O'Neill, Rich Voss, Jim Norton, and I think Bobby Kelly were standing on the side of the street. Do you know Patrice O'Neill is? I know Patrice. Patrice was cat calling women. Now I'm working the street, and I don't know these guys at all.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And I said, I can't believe you think that would work. Cause I've never seen a cat call, cause I grew up in Florida. It's about foot traffic. We don't have that. Yeah. Right. And so he goes, shut the fuck up. And I was like, that's not how you'd hit on a woman. Sounds aggressive.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And he's like, what would you do? And a beautiful woman, probably 35. Now I had to talk to her anyway, cause I tried to get her to a club. I said, you look tired, why don't I take you out and I'll buy you a glass of wine and I'll listen to your day. And she went, I'm okay. And they made fun of me.
Starting point is 00:33:52 She heard them make fun of me and she came back. She goes, you know what? I'll take you up on that glass of wine. And I looked at her and I went, I can't. I don't have any money. I go, I just got my dream job. My dad called me a piece of shit yesterday. Everything's working out.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I can't throw it away for you. And I went, I can't. And she went, for real? And I went, no. And she walked away and I went, fuck. Louis Shavers like, you got a job. He's like, you come every night, we'll put you up. Six months later, Will Smith discovered me, gave me a development deal and I moved out here.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Holy shit. I'm sorry to run my own interview, but I'll tell you the thing that I think's interesting in this. Now I'm on the track to fame. Development deal, hanging out with Will Smith all the time. He's introducing me to everyone as his guy. I'm like fame's right there.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It's gonna happen again. I get a TV show, the FXX show, and I'm on TV every night. Things are happening. I'm meeting Sammy Hagar and Slash, and I'm meeting famous people. And one day I'm sitting in my car on the corner of Franklin by Vine kinda. Beautiful winter day in LA in the morning.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I'm driving the set of a Jason Williams jersey on. White chocolate Jason Williams? Fuck yeah, when he played for the Kings. I'm in my expedition, Eddie Bauer, I'm listening to Ja Rule. Oh, fuck yeah. Dun, dun, dun. And I'm like, this is it.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And I go, I thought I'd be happier. I guess it wasn't fame. I've got all the things I want. I have a development deal at Fox that's ending. I have one that's starting up again at CBS. I have a TV show. I'm doing everything I've ever wanted to do. You're still doing standups throughout this?
Starting point is 00:35:09 No. And so I lose it all. Meet Leanne, fall in love. What do you mean you lose it all? Fire just goes away. Shows aren't hits. What age was that? 27 is that day.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And then I meet Leanne at 29. Now from 27 to 29, I get back into standup really aggressively. Yeah, you're like, this is what brought me to the party the first time. The lesson my dad gave me about humility. It was the biggest thing that ever helped because I was cool with sucking my pride in. I call it the improv. And now I've been on television shows. There's cache for a comedy club and then Aaron's like, yeah, I can't really just give you spots, but if you want, I'll let you host. Hosting in LA is frowned upon. Back in the day it was.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Meaning that's not what a real comedian does. The first time I did it, my wife brought her best friend and a few friends, and her best friend said in front of everyone, oh, I didn't know you were gonna host. Let us know when you do stand up next time. Oh! And yeah, I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That's dumb. And I started hosting. This is what I gotta do, this is what I gotta do. And I just kinda worked my way back up. And then I got an opportunity to host in Ontario, which was a bigger opportunity. And then I met a couple guys and then I started touring and going out on the road and everything was going great.
Starting point is 00:36:12 But not making any money. 700 bucks a week you gotta pay managers and agents. And you gotta pay for travel and sometimes lodging. It's gone. It's gone. But then I married Leanne and we were broke. So broke, I didn't know we were broke. One day she sent me to the store to get milk.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And I got a gallon of milk and I bought a tall boy of fosters I was listening to spoon That's the way we'll get by and I was on my skateboard and I was skating and we lived on Detroit Street And I was the happiest I'd ever been this is fucking it broke No fame, but in the throes of stand-up so good at stand-up at that time two kids My wife worked for the buildings, we had a great apartment, and I had a tall boy of fosters, and I was like, LeAnn might be pissed
Starting point is 00:36:49 that I bought beer with whatever money she sent me to the store with. And LeAnn happened to be watching me skate home. When I got upstairs, she was like, don't ever lose whoever just walked in that door. I was like, yeah, that's what you want. The fame wasn't the thing. And I didn't know that, it was the work.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Doing stand-up was the thing I loved. The purpose. The purpose. Now listen, I am famous now and I fucking love it. Access to anything is good. Well, I would argue too, your particular version of fame is really fun cause you're a good time Charlie.
Starting point is 00:37:16 You're like a turnkey. When you show up people are like, Oh, we're partying. That's the association. So generally when people see you, they're fucking pumped to have a good time. I love to have a good time. When does this standup take off where you're headlining
Starting point is 00:37:30 and you're starting to make good money? I worked for Travel Channel for like eight years. You would go to amusement parks and stuff. You would go on thrill rides. You jumped off the stratosphere and you're afraid of all this stuff. Yeah. Eight years.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I did that for three years. And then I did another show called TripFlip for four years. I was also a little bit of like a Rover for show called TripFlip for four years. I was also a little bit of like a rover for them. They needed someone to do something they could plug me in. I was always good with ad sales. I could help sell Carnival Cruises and then they go, let's just do a show about Carnival Cruises. We got money from Carnival Cruises. I got fired from that for a specific reason or just it ran its course? No, it just ran its course. I was like, I would sign deals. Milano says don't stay fired, but that's what it feels like. They just didn't renew your
Starting point is 00:38:04 deal. The lady called me and she was like, hey, I think we're done working with you. We're not gonna renew your deal. She had never worked with me. She was a new president. She was like, so good luck. Really cold. I could take back one conversation in the world,
Starting point is 00:38:15 it would be that one. So I was like, okay, but you know what? I don't wanna work with anyone. Like, I was just so needy. Yeah, scared. My Showtime special was coming out. This is 2016. The machine.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yeah. That's the game changer. Yeah, not yet Here's what happened at the deal over at NBC. I lose interest in that. I'm kind of going through I guess what is depression I find out I mean, I don't know what depression feels like for real people but my thing of it where it just sucks We went down to a 7.5 for a couple weeks. Yeah, I spent longer on the toilet than I normally do I was only able to sleep nine hours on I spend longer on the toilet than I normally do. I was only able to sleep nine hours uninterrupted last night. I put a lot of chips in this special, the machine.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I was like, this is gonna pop. They told me when I shot it, they're like, hey, can we do one version with your shirt on? When did that start? You doing stand up with your shirt off? I couldn't tell you exactly. I would say probably 12 years ago. I was in Dayton, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:39:03 It was not a sold room, it was like 75 people, and I was like, this is not where I wanna be in life, let alone in this actual place. And Doc brought me a six pack of beer and a bucket, and he was like, have fun tonight. I heard it as fucking good luck. And I thought, man, these people paid money, they don't deserve to see me get upset
Starting point is 00:39:19 and say I'm not happy. So I got on stage and Doc was in the booth, he was playing Ram Jam, Black Betty. Hey, to stage is pretty awesome and it fired me up and I got up there and I went fuck this and I ripped my shirt off 75 people went nuts I think I murdered six beers in a row back to back to back to back to back because I kept looking at Doc I go one more and the place was like yeah yeah it was a Thursday night one show you were like Steve Austin stone cold that energy and it started that night.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I've been doing it ever since. It's so weird how you can stumble into these things that are such signature. I do the Showtime special shirtless. This back when changing a channel was a thing. For anyone listening, there was a thing you hold in your hand, and there was a plus and a minus sign, and you decide to go up a channel
Starting point is 00:39:59 or down a channel if you didn't like what you saw. And mostly you spent the entire two hours flicking. You never even watched a whole thing. This is the difference in media. Not to get too heady on this, when you had that remote in your hand, you were Caesar. You were thumbs up, thumbs down. So now the thing in traditional media where you have the remote in your hand and you're Caesar
Starting point is 00:40:19 and a guy shirtless comes on stage and you go, oh, fuck that, click, is the exact opposite on the internet. You see a guy with your shirt off and you go, oh, fuck that. Click is the exact opposite on the internet. You see a guy with your shirt off and you go, wait, what's that? Click. And so I shot the machine, lowest special they'd ever had on Showtime. Oh no, they told you that?
Starting point is 00:40:33 How did you even find that out? They told us and they were like, you know, you could help to promote it. I was like, huh? And like it's tracking to be the lowest we've ever done. I heard someone say this at the Oscars, success in Hollywood means I get to work again. I get to keep working.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Exactly. But this meant I might not keep working. Last special you'll ever have. Now I look at my tour dates and I have no tickets sold and then I get to fix this somehow and I was like, oh my God. Now at the time I was supposed to do a tour with Tommy. It was funny or die.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I was supposed to do four weekends. Sebastian, Tommy, Fluffy, Dane I think was on, Eliza, it was gonna be fun. I was getting paid $2,000 a weekend, which isn't bad money. And then they pulled my weekends and I told Tom and I was like, was on, Eliza. It was gonna be fun. I was getting paid $2,000 a weekend, which isn't bad money. And then they pulled my weekends. And I told Tom, and I was like, this is so crazy, man, they pulled my weekends.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And he was like, holy shit, man, that's a lot of money. And I went, well, it's only like $2,000. He goes, $2,000 a show? I said, no, $2,000 for the weekend. He goes, no, I think you got that wrong. I go, wait, what are you getting paid? Oh no. With boys, right?
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah. And I was like, I don't know if I wanna tell you. And I was like, why? And he goes, I'm afraid it'll fuck up our friendship. So I'm sitting there in my man cave And I was like, I don't know if I wanna tell you. And I was like, why? And he goes, I'm afraid it'll fuck up our friendship. So I'm sitting there in my man cave. I'm like, all right, give me a second. I go, can I be happy for this man's success? And what's the price point where I can be happy?
Starting point is 00:41:35 And where's the price point where I'm gonna be like, okay, fuck that guy. Yeah. So in my head I go, if he's getting 20,000 for the weekend, I'm happy for him. I said, what are you getting? And he goes, I'm getting 20,000. I went, I'm happy for him. I said, what are you getting? And he goes, I'm getting 20,000. I went, cool.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And he goes, a show. Ah! A show? A fucking show? You're making 80 grand on these weekends? And he was like, I told you I didn't want to do you. But I was like, I already decided we're friends. So I'm like, okay, I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh wow. But then in that time, we're doing a little podcast called Rogan, which at the time is not what it is today. Meaning you are appearing on it Yeah, and Rogan loves that. We're fat shaming. So Tom and I go on we talk about the fat shaming He goes why don't we do weigh-ins at the end of the year? January 1st 2nd & 3rd we'll do three sets of weigh-ins
Starting point is 00:42:15 That's three episodes of Rogan back to back to back where people are tuning in because we've talked about it You guys do the weight loss challenge see who loses the most weight in December. So I'm like, okay, but special bombed So I'm trying to figure, but special bombed. So I'm trying to figure out how to rebound. I go, I know how to edit. Can I get the raw file of my special? And I edit out four clips to post on Facebook, Twitter. I've learned it all.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I've learned how to make graphics. I write my own graphics. I post the machine story, December 27th. Me and Tom go in to do weight loss challenges on the first and second. And during that week, the machine story goes viral. I'd never experienced anything like it. And that first week in Jersey at the stress factory, which staff raffle,
Starting point is 00:42:52 that was the first club I sold out. And I said to them on Saturday night, I go, why are you guys here? And someone goes, the fucking machine. And I go, I retired that and he goes, the fuck you did. Tell it. The only reason we're here. I I told the machine, at that moment, 2017, that first weekend, January 8th, 9th, 10th, I've sold out every show I've ever done. God, that's only eight years ago. I got it late in life,
Starting point is 00:43:13 which is the best thing that can happen. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, because you're so rich now. You're so rich. You can Google it. I can go now. Okay, so really quick, I wanna know, so you've since done, I I guess five stand-up specials
Starting point is 00:43:25 This will be your fourth on Netflix. You had the show time one You had a couple on Comedy Central last year when you two did you do a full tour last year? Yeah, last year was my arena tour. Okay. So how many dates did you do? I don't know I do more dates in the average comic which is fascinating because if you look at when they post all our earnings You know top ten most earning comics. Yeah, you look where I am and you're like, wow, that's impressive. But then when you look at the other comics and you're like, oh, she fell into 13 dates.
Starting point is 00:43:50 That's not that impressive. That's the thing. It's like deceptive about those things. Sure. Who cares? You can get it anyway. Who cares? But I work a lot. I always do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, three weeks a month with maybe a week off. I would go out Wednesday, do first weekend. So do you fly to meet your tour bus?
Starting point is 00:44:07 I fly to meet my tour bus. Okay. And then Monday I'd fly to go see Tommy in Austin. We do podcast Tuesday, and then I leave Tuesday night to go meet the tour bus. I do another run. I then fly out to do more podcasts or fly back to do podcast and then go back out and meet my tour bus.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Oh my God, this is a lot. When you don't have anything, not to say I didn't have anything, but when you wanted the success, you wanted the fans, you wanted the opportunity to stand up all over the country and have people show up, when it shows up, you're like,
Starting point is 00:44:36 I am not letting go of this. I look at like NFL players and they have all their great years when they're 22, 23, 24. Oh my God, it's heartbreaking. I'm so lucky to have them at 49, 50, 51, 52, do a movie and then you're getting all these opportunities. You just don't wanna say no.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You're like, fuck yeah, man, let's get after it. And you don't feel overwhelmed by all those commitments? Overshare. Yeah, please do. A year ago, we're closing on our festival and the girls and Leanne were like. Cut the shit. If I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 00:45:01 I think they had a bed for me at Betty Ford. Those are hard to come by, by the way. Yeah. And had the talk with me, but they're like, bed for me at Betty Ford. Those are hard to come by, by the way. Yeah. And had to talk with me, but they're like, dad, he can't stop working, he can't stop drinking, he can't stop eating. I was 285 pounds and I saw it in me first. And I said to myself, let me get through this tour
Starting point is 00:45:17 and then I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna take some time off and I'm gonna clean my lifestyle up and I'm gonna still work, no booze, eat keto, lose weight. And what's crazy is randomly a friend of ours was going a little harder than I was and he took that bed and no one said anything to me but I had already quit drinking like 13 days before.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Everyone was chomping at the bit to tell me but I'd already got in front of it and then I quit drinking for like three months. I lost 55 pounds. I got in really good shape and I started touring again and I was doing it in a very healthy manner. But what was happening was I've never really taken a break. Don't you think it's also dangerous
Starting point is 00:45:48 when you have this thing to lean on, which is like something's working so well in your life. You're like, yeah, I'm drinking more than I should, but everything's going exactly how I would want. It's very hard to confront when everything's working. It's wildly difficult to tell someone that's bringing in millions of dollars that what they're doing isn't working Yeah, no one touches the golden goose
Starting point is 00:46:09 Even if the golden goose bites in the dick a couple times, but at the end of July they were witnessing the same I just shot my special and they're like, what are you gonna do? Are you going back on the road and I planned a European tour and they're like dad Why don't you take some real time off, get grounded. And I didn't understand that getting grounded meant getting really lost. In order to get grounded, you gotta be scared. With all the distractions gone
Starting point is 00:46:31 and you have to sit with yourself. So I took a break and in taking a break, I was like, yo, I'm very fucked up. I need distractions, I need something in front of me, I need a goal, I need to sell some tickets, I gotta write a script. And my wife's like, no, no, you're're not doing anything you can do podcasts, but that's it I've been off in a ditch trying to figure myself out and then just recently we got that bench press competition
Starting point is 00:46:53 All of a sudden started writing side of goal I understood goals and I was like cool and then I had a show by the way You just have to set goals on the personal frontier like you can still be goal driven just can't be on the personal frontier. Like you can still be goal driven. Just can't be externally motivated. Yeah, they're all for me the creative frontier. I can set goals creatively, but like personally I go, I don't know man, my wife and I got in couples therapy,
Starting point is 00:47:14 that helped immensely. We're not having a problem. We did it because I'm home for the first time. My girls are gone, it's me and her. We have a joke where when we wake up, instead of saying I love you She just goes you again, huh? And so couples therapy started really opening my eyes to some shit about me
Starting point is 00:47:32 I mean, I think she got me a couple's therapy just to get me into therapy He's not gonna go solo so I guess I'll have to fucking sit through his session. Oh dude, I smoked her on the first one No, I smoked her on the first one. Fucking killed it. It's intense. No, I smoked her. Oh. She lost so bad. I look at it, win or lose. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Everything's competition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, if she cries in couples therapy. That's a cheat. It's a fucking cheat. It's a cheat. Pretending to have a fair catch and then catching and run. I go, yo, if you cry, god damn it.
Starting point is 00:48:01 No, that's your fault for not being able to sit through her crying. I said, this is kind of an unfair therapy because she's crying. She goes, unfair. Yeah, that's my feeling. Oh, you want me to cry? I can easily whip up some tears.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Show me a commercial. Yeah, let me tell you about a Grateful Dead song. But on the first therapy we were in there, Leanne just really loves therapy. She's talking and talking and I'm just trying to feel it out. And I went and say something, Leanne cut me off. And the lady goes, do you ever let him talk? And I was like, take the win. I was like, I'm just trying to feel it out. And I went and say something, the aunt cut me off and the lady goes, do you ever let him talk? And I was like, take the win.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I was like, I'm just gonna sit back in the cut and I go like, seldomly. You've been with me for what, an hour? And I let you say a fucking word? So you were playing a game. She smoked me a couple times. Okay, good. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And I know this next week, I'm definitely gonna fucking lose. I'm going in just taking a knee. Cause she's got some real things to report. What'd you do? It was a good one. I can't even talk about it because I got to let it happen first and then run it by Leanne because it was a real one and it wasn't my fault. But I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:57 But it was. I really wish I could talk about it. I mean, we brought it up in front of friends the other day and it started again. And I went, oh. I was like, okay, maybe I can't make a joke out of this one. Can't make a joke out of everything. Like my daughter got her period. I talked about it on stage. Yeah, what is the vibe at home?
Starting point is 00:49:12 Cause almost all your stories involve your wife and your girls and you do an impression of your wife. It varies wildly throughout the show and you acknowledge it. How comfortable are they? What's that dynamic like? It's interesting. When I started doing standup and using social media, it wasn't a thing yet.
Starting point is 00:49:28 There was no chance of your family seeing, no one was doing specials, just on the road talking shit about your family. That's right. And the harder it went, the funnier it went. I remember telling the first joke I told that caught traction. George and Isla were laughing one morning,
Starting point is 00:49:40 early in the morning. I said, what are you guys doing? They're like, you gotta see baby Isla's new trick. I go, what is it? She's like, it's not that funny if I tell you, you gotta see morning. I said, what are you guys doing? They're like, you gotta see baby Isla's new trick. I go, what is it? She's like, it's not that funny if I tell you, you gotta see it. I said, okay. So Isla is three at the time,
Starting point is 00:49:50 takes her finger, shoves it up her ass, and puts it in the dog's mouth. Oh my God. Yeah, wow, they figured that out. It turned into a good bit. And I told it. And then by the way, I go to do a special, they're only like five and seven, tell it again.
Starting point is 00:50:02 They're not gonna hear it. Right. And then do another one. And then they're seven and 10. And then they're 10 and 13. And the first time it bit me in the ass was the period party. I mean, it's like such a good bit. It writes itself.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I didn't have to do anything. It was presented to me as a fucking banger on a silver platter. 13 years old, kid gets her period at school, calls dad and says, hey, go to the store and get a red velvet cake. I'm throwing a period party tonight. I'm like, okay. So I tell it on Conan. Oh, she didn't like that. Well,
Starting point is 00:50:31 anytime schoolmates can get wind of it, that's what you don't want them to have to deal with. Conan walks in and he's like, Hey man, how are the girls? I said, good, good. And I said, I just got a period. And he went, Ooh, I said, yeah, you're telling me I go, we had a period party. And he's like, wait, what? And I tell him this story. He goes, Whoa, whoa, whoa, save it. Can you tell it on stage? And I was like, went, oh. I said, yeah, you're telling me. I go, we had a period party. And he's like, wait, what? And I tell him this story. He goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, save it. Can you tell it on stage?
Starting point is 00:50:47 And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause you're like, you want to do well. Yes, you want me going in happy. And then that night, I watched it. How are you girls? Very good. I just got a period and she had pause. She goes, do people watch this?
Starting point is 00:50:57 Oh no. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like, how many? I said a lot. She was like, will people in my school see this? And I was like, yeah, probably. She was like, wait, let me see the rest. Take it back. And then I was like, how many? I said, a lot. She was like, will people in my school see this? And I was like, yeah, probably. She was like, wait, let me see the rest. You take it back.
Starting point is 00:51:07 And then I was like, oh my God. She was fine. I could tell something was off. And then the next morning, Leanne was like, I need you to see something. And it was a flood of emails of little girls going, thank you. You're my hero. Thank you so much for sharing. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:20 So it had a positive ending. I just got my period today. My dad's doing a period party for me. I put my finger in my ass, then put it in the red velvet cake, and then the dog ate it. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's much worse than the period party.
Starting point is 00:51:31 But that's three. That's three. Yeah, exactly. You can get away with that at three. That's true. And then the last special, or maybe the one before, she had a line that I wanted to use so bad.
Starting point is 00:51:39 It was so good. You ran it by her and she said no. I didn't even run it by her. She saw my set. The girls now come and vet my set. Oh, okay. Okay. That's fair. They've learned. They were at the forum with notebooks going, noop. She was like, hey, you can't put that in the special. I go, but you said it. She goes, I know, I said it to you. She goes, I can't be the person that said that out loud to everybody. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, baby, I'll give you
Starting point is 00:51:57 20 grand. She was like, no. And I just kept going up. Good for her. Yeah. Them and Leanne, initially, when I was doing it at the forum, I'd done so much of this shit about Leanne that it kind of came out. Angry-ish. Yeah, angry. Yeah. And they were like, yo, dad,
Starting point is 00:52:14 you're losing your smile in this joke. And then my director said that to me and my best friend who produces my specials, he was, yeah, man, this smile's gone. Like, I think you've been doing it too much. You need to stop and then find it again. And so I got the smile back for it. Cause I talk shit about a 54,
Starting point is 00:52:29 oh, I almost threw up saying it. 54 year old woman. If you don't make that fun, it does sound like you're shitting on women agents. We need to know at all times you're deeply in love with. It's a fine line to walk. My danger isn't politics and my danger isn't racial shit. And they may have been at times in my career
Starting point is 00:52:46 I mean, I have a political joke in the special. I don't give a shit. No one's gonna fucking leave me for it Well, you'll love it. He takes a very pro-choice stance on behalf of yeah You're gonna also dislike some of it So you actually watch the special yeah, yeah watching last night, of course Okay, so I love Burke Chrysler finder of course. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Okay, so I love Burt Kreischer, finder of things. This is your self-proclaimed identity marker. And I think this is the funniest trait to have. How does one come to this realization
Starting point is 00:53:14 that this is your knack? It's a little bit of delusion. When I was 14 years old, we were in Anna Maria Island. I was with the Lazara family. We were in Chess High Water. And Benny Lazara said, oh shit, I just lost my ring. And I went, really? And I had this feeling that God whispered in my ear, you'll find it. And I swear to God, I went over to where he was, I put my foot down and I stood on his ring.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Wow. And you're a hero. I went underwater and I grabbed it. And this is my thing. I love the sparkle. I said, Uncle Benny, what are you gonna say to me if I say I have your ring in my hand right now? He said, I'll tell you right now, if you are holding my ring in your hand, you are my favorite child in this water and I love you more than my son.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I went boom. And he went, how the fuck did you do that? And I go, I don't know. And my whole life, I've been able to do that my fucking whole life. If you lose something, I have a weird confidence where I just go, I'll find it. And by the way, also, I'll put in the work to find it.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Some people go, oh, let's look. And then they don't really look. And I go, you're not really committed to this finding. Yeah. Well, and you have to, cause it's now an identity marker. If you don't find it, you don't know who you are now. I'm going to tell you, this is a wild one.
Starting point is 00:54:20 15 years ago, back when SeaWorld was acceptable to people, we went to SeaWorld San Diego. When you could go guilt free. Yeah, when she was like, that was cool, she had me rocked. She looked happy. Since we don't have Shamu, have you noticed the orcas are acting up a little bit?
Starting point is 00:54:32 You think they want Shamu back? You think they'd miss him? I think they might've found out what we did, and they're not afraid of us anymore. Interesting, there's a lot of theories out there, but we have not considered that Shamu went and told everyone. Remember your friend who's light the cigarette in his bedroom, you're like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:54:44 She's like, that bitch won't do shit to me anymore. I'm 15, what's she gonna say? Fuck you, old lady. And that's the Orcas. They're like spoiled rotten grits kids. They're like, wait, we're bigger and smarter than these people. Anyway, we go to SeaWorld and we're walking to the parking lot
Starting point is 00:54:56 and I find a diamond ring with an engravement in it. And I go, wow, that's crazy. So I'm gonna give this back to the person. I'm gonna find the person that this is. And Leanne said, honey, I call SeaWorld. I go lost and found. They go, yeah, yeah, no one reported a ring. Just drop it off.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I go, no, no, no, because I don't trust you guys. I already see what you're doing. Yeah. You're not a house of ethics here. By the way, Twitter's not even around yet. Probably a year later, I post a clip. I hold onto this ring. I'm like, hey, I found a ring at SeaWorld.
Starting point is 00:55:22 It's got an engravement. It's rubies and a diamond. It's a really nice ring and it's expensive. And I go, if you lost this ring, fine, my daughter comes in, she's young, she's dressed as a kitty cat. It's a cute video, radio silence. At one point we're really low on money. And Leanne goes, if we sell this ring,
Starting point is 00:55:37 it could get us out of the hole. And I said, that's not our ring to sell. That's someone's ring that I'm holding until I give it to them. This is like a George Cristina type storyline. Delusional. It's very endearing. I go on podcasts. I talk about the ring. I talk about the fucking ring everywhere.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I have this ring. I'm pretending to hold it in my hand right now. 2020, seven years later, my wife calls and says someone reached out about the ring. Oh my god. I said for real. She goes, yeah, she says someone reached out about the ring. Oh my God. I said, for real. She goes, yeah, she says it's her mother's ring. She knows the inscription and she lives in San Diego and she would like to come to your show. I have a show there
Starting point is 00:56:13 and if she gives you the right inscription, then it's obviously her ring. This woman comes up with her husband, she's emotional and she goes, I think you have my mother's ring. What's the inscription? She goes, the inscription is in cursive. It's LH plus dot dot. Those are my parents' initials. And I go, here's your mother's ring.
Starting point is 00:56:28 You didn't make her go, what are you gonna say if I, because you like to do that part. You like a lot of acclaim. I go, here's your mother's ring. Do you think your mother would be happy that I gave you her ring back? Okay, so a little bit of that. She looks at me and she goes, my mother was a cunt.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Oh my God. She goes, I swear to God, she died and she gave me this one ring and I hated my mother. And I was at SeaWorld and it fell out of my God. She goes, I swear to God, she died and she gave me this one ring and I hated my mother. And I was at SeaWorld and it fell out of my purse and I said, she fucking lost this ring cause she hated me and she wanted to prove me a lesson. And I go, really?
Starting point is 00:56:55 I go, what are you gonna do with the ring now? She goes, I'm gonna fucking sell it. I went, wow, you could have sold the goddamn ring. You could have helped us. Kids could have gone to private school. Wow, what a turn. Almost if she said, like, I threw that away in a parking lot
Starting point is 00:57:07 so I'd never hear about it or see it again. I didn't want to be reminded of her. Yes. And you keep talking about it. I have always found shit. You know what I'm doing to promote this special? And my wife thinks I'm a lunatic. I see pennies all the time.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I always pick up pennies. Look, this is the eight year old side of you. If you can get me into a game, you have Burt lost for the day I'm set so I got a hundred dollars worth of pennies. That's a lot of fucking pennies. Oh my god It's too many pennies ten thousand pennies. I'm throwing them all over the city I put him in front of people's cars. So when they go to their car, they're like, hey Good luck. I don't know if it works or not, but maybe that's nice
Starting point is 00:57:41 If you can gamify life Come on That's a nice gesture. I like that. If you can gamify life, come on. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare. At this point, what generates more income for you? Doing stand-up or the podcast? Stand up. I go back on tour, I haven't announced it, but I'll say it. I have a new tour called Permission to Party.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Which you came up with in an interview you were doing. I did, I was talking to this guy and he goes, I'm kind of confused, I've been to one of your shows, these guys are taking their shirts off and they're not in great shape, and they're watching the whole show shirtless and they're with their wives and they're getting hammered and he's like, why you?
Starting point is 00:58:26 And I said this for real. I was like, I've always given people permission to party. I've always been the guy that like a kid's birthday party. They're like, yo, are you gonna ask for beer? Cause we're all wanting a beer. Sunday morning, no one wants to be here. I had the same role. I would always show up at my friend's house with a six pack
Starting point is 00:58:41 and they were like, oh, this is great. You brought a six pack. We're doing this. Yes, I would go first all the time. I love it. I wasn't gonna drink this weekend. So I was like, I'm gonna get ready for the month. We just went in from Spain.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Saturday, it's four o'clock. It's a beautiful Saturday. Remember Saturday was a good one. Yeah, I got really warm. The end goes, I could have a glass of Rose. Now I'll never say no to a glass of Rose ever in my life. If I get sober, if you offer me rose, I'll still drink it. I love rose.
Starting point is 00:59:08 It's a good one. Oh my God. It creeps up on you so quick. Oh, the pandemic, we drink so much rose. I drink so much rose during the pandemic. At one point I go, am I just drinking perfume? Can I tell you how much rose they drink? Cause we all hung out here.
Starting point is 00:59:23 There's a liquor store that's two and a half blocks away. And I would get on my motorcycle and we started this thing where they would time me to see how fast I could arrive back at the house with four bottles of Rose. Hold on, am I finding my people? The final one was sub two minutes. It was like a minute and 45 seconds I was back.
Starting point is 00:59:41 And then I got back and I was like, I gotta call it at that. I ran the red light. I was going 95 miles an hour on Franklin I left the gate open so I could blow in that's how bad we needed it we set an alcohol to go pick up our wine. On a motorcycle. Can I tell you what I just discovered this year?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Campari spritz. I don't know if I like Campari I'm gonna have to try it. Campari tastes a little earthier so when I was a kid there was a commercial Campari on ice oh so nice and I remember going oh I want to get. Campari tastes a little earthier. So when I was a kid, there was a commercial, Campari on ice, oh so nice. And I remember going, oh, I wanna get into Campari. As a kid. What is Campari? You had big dreams. Is that a brand or a type of alcohol?
Starting point is 01:00:11 It's a aperitif, I think. And it's basically a liqueur, but it's got a very earthy taste to it. Two parts Prosecco, two parts Campari, splash of soda water. Wow, I think you should make that tonight. I'm going to Sunset Tower tonight, and so maybe I... Oh, can I, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Can we start a game? Sure. Because once again, if you gamify life, this will be so fun. We gotta do a three-way text, because I can't text, and it's creepy if I'm like... What do you fucking know, Vice President? Mike Pence.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Pence. Mike Pence can't be in a room with a woman, other than his wife, unless someone else is president? To be very clear, yeah. You are. I never, but we should do a group text. Group text. Where we text each other what to drink.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Maybe we're emotional cheating and that. Then I'm like, I wanna be where she is. Yeah, you mean like, oh, I'd kill for that. They don't have that at my bar. Wait, what bar are you at? Yes. I had a very attractive female comic. She goes, you know, I really like you.
Starting point is 01:01:02 And I was like, thanks. She's like, I feel like we connect. And I go I go we kind of do she was like would you be my drinking buddy sometimes I want to go to drink I don't want to get hit on and I kind of just want to have a buddy that I can talk shit with and talk shit about comedy would you be my drinking buddy and I was like yeah so one night met home and Leanne it's like eight o'clock at night and I get a call from her I go hey what's up she goes hey I'm going out you want to come meet me up I was like yeah done I go hey I gotta go she's like what's going on I was, what's up? She goes, hey, I'm going out. You wanna come meet me up? I was like, yeah, done. And I hit it. I go, hey, I gotta go.
Starting point is 01:01:26 She's like, what's going on? I was like, what's your name? Said we're gonna go out. And Leanne's like, are you going on a date? And I go, no, just me and her. It's like, we're gonna go drink. And Leanne's like, hold on. You're not going out drinking with just a random woman.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I go, it's not a random woman. I've known her for eight years. We connect. I had to call her back and go, my wife won't let me come. I'll tell you a person for real, she'd admit this, she'd make fun of me for saying this. Whitney Cummings and I have a real connection as comics, almost like brother and sister.
Starting point is 01:01:53 She is really close with my daughters, really close with my wife, but I will tell you this, and this is my perspective, or more importantly, it's Leanne and her boyfriend Chris's perspective. If we go out on a double date, Whitney and I just take off on our own. We went to the Greek to go see Sturgill and both of them were looking at us like, are you guys together? Are we going to be here? And then we went to her
Starting point is 01:02:13 kid's birthday party and Whitney and I just took off. Now let me ask you this though, because my wife is so grateful for that. I have several friends that are female that I get on with like that. And my wife is like, oh my God, thank God I don't have to receive all of his energy tonight. It's on someone else's plate and he needs to talk so fucking much and I don't wanna talk that much. She's like grateful for it.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Leanne, I'm trying to bite my tongue because I'm trying to say like, the first time Leanne saw me and Whitney hang out, and Whitney is like a sister to me. And I mean that for real. My daughters call her Aunt Whitney. You got her name tattoo on your back. Like you're bros.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Yeah, we went to Dr. Woo, whatever. My wife's like, you can't ignore it because you guys are good together. So she's like, if you have a show, you need to hire her as your wife or your sister. You need to work together. Yes. She was like, but remember, your chemistry is just funny.
Starting point is 01:03:03 She's like, if you fucked her, she wouldn't like it. Yeah, don't get confused. Yeah, don't get confused. I really honestly love Whitney like a sister. So you text her, right? Obviously, you're not only on three-way text. I gotta be honest with you. I bet it's a three-way text.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Wow. But you know, also I don't read text. So like a lot of people go, if I'm gonna text Bert, I'll text Leanne too. I guess the four of us could be on a text. No, we couldn't do it. It couldn't be one-on-one because it would turn into emotional cheating.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Okay, all right. Okay, then we can't do it. But I am gonna have a martini tonight, so I am telling you now that is what I'm gonna be doing. Okay, let's play the game just live then. Yeah, live. Okay, tell me what to drink and I'll tell you what to drink.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And this gotta be the first drink you have. Oh, this is a fun game. Yes. Have you had Frenette? I have, that's a- It's an aperitif too, I think. So my buddy Mark Smalls always has a shot of for net to start the night. Oh, turn into a fun thing where we'd all have a shot
Starting point is 01:03:50 of for net and no one really enjoys for net. But if you drink for net enough, you start to enjoy the fact that you don't like it. Okay, get me on a new one. All right. It's a fun way to take the thinking out of it. Just walk up and go shot of for net please. You're already trying to limit the amount of drinks
Starting point is 01:04:03 that you like. So the notion of making yourself like one that you don't like is really funny. I'm gonna go shot it for net, please You're already trying to limit the amount of drinks that you like So the notion of making yourself like one that you don't like is really fun. I'm gonna do it But okay, I'm telling you your drink and you should invite your wife and to do this You should make this for both of you. It's just me and you okay. Cool great a bee's knees Don't even tell me what it is. Do you know what it is? Can I tell you kind of the fun of this is going? Can I get a bee's knees, please? Oh, and then sipping it and, oh, she knows me so well. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Okay, great. But do they know it everywhere? Yeah, if you go to a good place, they'll know it. I like a brandy Alexander and a pack of Palmo. Yeah, yeah. Well, Bert, you're a goddamn delight. We really did it, just like when I was on yours. We went for it, we went hard.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I'm so glad that I get to eat my words and say I'm so happy you got into podcasting. Oh, thank you. I'm being serious, man. If for nothing, I've said this to you before, people have brought this up to me about what a great, great episode. And I'm the same way, live by the sword, die by the sword, where I'm 100% honest. Maybe I'm over honest. Maybe I overshare. But when you talked about falling off the wagon, I remember where I was when I listened to it. I remember just how vulnerable it was and how cool it was to hear someone take accountability and the conversation you got, it was just incredible.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I think it was during the pandemic. Yeah. And I was in the pool listening to it. Only real podcast listeners, us diehards, know the feeling when you've got a phone and you're just right there and you're with every word and someone's like, hey, can I get you? Hang on, stop, I'm in the middle of something and they're like what I'm like my friend
Starting point is 01:05:26 Dax I know him so well 16 years of sobriety yeah it's crazy I said when I first met Rogan I'd listened to so much of the podcast he invited me to do the podcast I went to his house I go I know this guy's like my buddy and I never met him I was like hey hey man he's like it's good to meet you and I was like I know you he was like what I my buddy and I never met him. I was like, hey, hey man. He's like, it's good to meet you. And I was like, I know you. And he was like, what? I was like, I need to meet your dogs. And you see a deprivation tank.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I want to play a game of pool. I want to get high. And then I'll be ready. I go, look, man, I'm a big fan. I need to get this out. It's an interesting, fun relationship. Podcasters and their listeners. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:59 All right, well, everyone check out Lucky. It's on Netflix. Couldn't be easier for you to consume. It's hilarious. I really adore you. I'm really glad that we got to do each other's shows. I am too. Yeah, you're such a sweet boy, truly. You're such a, this is like a big old fucking heart in you
Starting point is 01:06:14 and I love it. Well, I think it's just because I drink a lot. No. It's enlarged. Well, it is probably enlarged. But it's also very sweet. All right, so everyone watch Lucky and we'll do this again. I can't wait. I loved that show. So did I. I loved it. I loved anything that was like inside, inside information into the lives of celebrities.
Starting point is 01:06:48 So wild. Yeah, I loved Cribs and you have so nosy. I wanted to know how everyone lived, what their style was, how big their house was, what kind of cars they had. But you know what else was fun about Cribs is like, they would do like an LA actor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:07 And they had like an okay house. Right. Anytime they were in Atlanta for like a rapper or a basketball player, everyone had like 10,000 square foot houses on acreage and then huge driveways full of cars. I'm like, oh yeah, it's a lot more bang for your buck in other places.
Starting point is 01:07:21 That's true. I wasn't thinking like that back then. You weren't. So I was just a little girl. Yeah, that's our age difference. How old were you when you were watching it? You make you uncomfortable because so many of them were set up for partying.
Starting point is 01:07:35 It was all about like- Okay, you don't even know me. Some of these places had dance clubs in them. I used to booty bump. You don't even- Not at eight. Okay, I think I was older than that. Let's see when Cribs came out.
Starting point is 01:07:46 When was it? Uh-oh, that's not a good Google, because you know what it says. You know who's got a great episode of Cribs? Maybe the best? Uh. Rosenbaum. Really?
Starting point is 01:07:59 Oh yeah, he had someone like hiding under the sheets in the bedroom when they were looking at the bedroom, and then the guy jumped out of the bed. Mariah Carey also had one. Hers was infamous more than it was because she seemed a little unstable. She like took a bath during her episode. Yeah, I remember a bath.
Starting point is 01:08:17 If a guy did that, he'd go to jail probably. Not then. Yeah, you're right. Okay, yeah, premiered in 2000. So I was 12. 12. But you were a lot older. I was 24. I was ready to go to one of those nightclubs in the house.
Starting point is 01:08:34 It is so crazy how age starts to mean nothing, but when you're young, it is, this is, this is just real proof that- I'm older? No, no, that like these, when people are like, oh, it's not that big of a deal if like the 16 year old is what it is. Like when I think about being the age I was watching Cribs and then being 24, wildly different.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Who was your favorite? What are your favorite episodes of Cribs? Okay, I need to see. Do top, I'm gonna do top 10 best episodes of Cribs. It's funny to me now, mind you, I gotta remember everyone that participated in Cribs was in their 20s. Pretty much. No, Richard Branson. They did his island.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Yeah. I remember that one. His private island. Yes. 10 best houses on MTV Cribs. Lil Wayne. Oh my God, they did Beyonce? Oh God, Lil Wayne. He has a plastic hot tub in the dead middle
Starting point is 01:09:38 of his living room. There's a lot of athletes. Yeah, Mariah Carey in her bathtub, as we discussed. Shaq? That was Orlando. I remember Shaq's house. Yeah. Tony Hawk, Russell Simmons, that was an older man.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Oh, I saw that one. Yeah, that's a huge mansion. And Wilmer Valderrama. Yes, he did. Oh, the Playboy Mansion did a cribs. Aaron Carter, that's an infamous one. Yeah, 50 Cent. RIP, right?
Starting point is 01:10:13 Who? Oh. I think so. Yeah. That's sad. Yeah, Branson. Oh, I wish they'd bring it back. But anyways, once I-
Starting point is 01:10:23 Would you do it? No, no, no, no. But I remember as soon as I owned a house thinking like, oh no, God no, I don they'd bring it back. But anyways, once I- Would you do it? No, no, no, no. But I remember as soon as I owned a house thinking like, oh no, God, no, I don't want anyone to see where I live. So I don't have that. Are you gonna do an episode when your house is down? Not of cribs, but I do, I mean- You would do architecture.
Starting point is 01:10:38 The advanced version is architectural digest home tours, which I love. I love looking at them, but I wouldn't participate in one. You got a smell? Something's going on. Oh. Have you ever had a smell in your nose? Did you cook fish in your apartment last night?
Starting point is 01:10:52 No. Okay, as you're prone to do? Sometimes when you just get a smell in your nose, you can't get it out. I don't smell it on me, Uh-huh. but I was, but I'm really panicked. This is, remember we learned some people's OCD is that they think they can smell.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Okay, they did 19 seasons of Cribs. Whoa! But they're probably multiple. There's three a year. Yeah, exactly. They had a break from 2010 to 2021. Okay, so 2010, yeah, so I could have definitely participated. I think I was even asked.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yeah. As an MTV alumna. Yeah, exactly, you would have been perfect for them. But you didn't have like a bath, you don't have things. I had an average house. You would show your cars, I guess, your motorcycles. Mostly what it probably would have been. In the posters of yourself.
Starting point is 01:11:43 In the garage. They're in the garage. Well. They're in the garage. Well, they were in the house, remember? Not posters. Bad, still bad. I can own it. But a lot of stills from the movies. Well, is that even-
Starting point is 01:11:58 Which are cool. Can I see one? What do you mean stills? Like there's an on-set photographer and there's a picture of me and Luke Wilson in Idiocracy in a scene and I like the photo. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:15 And so I had a lot of- I don't know if that's that bad actually. Yeah. Post, I thought it was like- There was posters everywhere? Posters, is that it? I do have that photo, but that wasn't the one I had on display.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Look at my hair. Look at you, you look so little. You look just like Lincoln, it's crazy. But look at my hairdo, go ahead. No, you just, I mean, I noticed this when we watched, when we did- Without a paddle. Without a paddle, you just look so different. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Like your face has changed. Yeah. Isn't that weird? Yeah. Like, obviously everyone gets older, but your face is different, I think. Yeah, yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 01:13:04 I think my neck is a lot thicker, which I think changes the whole look of your face. Oh. That's like one of the big things I noticed, like when I'm watching Parenthood or something. Uh-huh. Oh yeah, my neck was half the size of my neck now. You look different.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Yeah, but is it bad? No. That I look so different? No, I don't think it's bad at all. Okay. Yeah, you look more like you. That kind of looks like me, right? You look more like you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yeah, you just look, yeah. Because in Idiocracy, I was fat. Like I gained a bunch of weight really quickly. Yeah. Like 37 pounds. Yeah. And then this was months after. And so now I'm like, I'm halfway back to me being thin,
Starting point is 01:13:42 which I always was on Parenthood. This looks Parenthood. Yes, that's Parenthood. And I'm like, I'm halfway back to me being thin, which I always was on parenthood. This looks parenthood. Yes, that's parenthood. And I'm like 185 there. In Zathura, I'm probably like 200. And then in Idiocracy, I'm 220. Can you, Rob, pull up when in Rome? Oh, I look terrible.
Starting point is 01:13:56 That's the closest to your current body though. But nah, I was so thin. Like my way of getting ripped then was the traditional approach. Starving. Which is like, get really cut and you'll look big. So I was like 169, 170 for the like modeling shoot stuff. Yeah, you're real cow thin. Yeah, look at I look like I'm on Ozempic.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Wow, you do look really thin. Yeah, look Ozempic. I wanna see a front face. Rob, can you pull up? This probably sucks if you're listening. You can start Googling all this stuff. Yeah, and also go to YouTube to watch us. Yeah, like I look similar from a distance,
Starting point is 01:14:37 but I'm so much lighter there. I'm a full 30 pounds lighter there. Your face looks... My bottom lip looks super big because my face is so gaud. Well, I think you're sticking it out there. I think it's just the light is interesting. Well, this is a real fun retrospective.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Retrospective. Yeah. With that watch I'm wearing, this is a bad story. I don't actually know you want to tell it. Wait, you have to now. Oh God. Yeah. I don't really want to say it in public,
Starting point is 01:15:09 because people, anyways. What happened? We were trying, I wanted to look douchey. That was my goal for this character. I was an underwear model. You were playing an underwear model. Yep. Yes, really into himself.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Yeah. And so when we had the meeting with like what kind of jewelry and watches I would wear, they just kept handing me different watches and then they handed me the one I'm wearing in that photo and I go, oh my God, this is perfect. It's, I'm gonna let you finish. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Fill in what happened. Of course, you were like, this is perfect. It's so douchey. And then what happened? It was someone's personal watch that had taken it off and just handed it in the pile. No. Yes, and I felt so bad.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Oh my God, why would they do that? I don't know, because yes, it was a little bit of a trap because we knew, everyone in the room knew why we were doing what we were doing. And then it was just handed to me. And I was like, yes, big. Oh, I still at night think about that. I feel terrible about that.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Did he cry? It's kind of a cool watch though, now that I'm looking at it. I was, well, anyways, moving onward. Anyways. That is a horrible thing you did on accident. On accident, this will happen. I have way more of you did on accident. On accident. I know. This will happen.
Starting point is 01:16:26 I have way more of those than most people, I think. Or at least no one tells me their stories about times. No, I know. It's because you are- Very censored. Correct. And I think you've gotten much more censored. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yeah. So back then, of course- Who knows? This is the douchiest watch I've ever- Fuck! Fuck me, I'm puking. But wait, no, you remember you thought I was a lot, but then you watched Without a Pale and you said, oh, you still were sweet back then.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Isn't that your conclusion? But you had thought maybe I wasn't because I was using drugs and alcohol. Right, I just think, don't you think you've tamed instead of gone the other way over time? For sure. Yeah. Yeah, I tell less fight stories.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Anyone who's been in your life for a long way before me would says that. Yes, yes, but I think maybe you thought I wasn't sweet back then, but I think I was still sweet. You were sweet, but I don't think, do you think you were like, I'm really, you just weren't walking through life feeling like
Starting point is 01:17:34 I might hurt someone's feelings? Well, I wasn't thinking that, but when I did, I felt like this situation I still think about. Yeah, you were like, well, fuck it. 20 years ago. And I'm like, oh God, what a terrible. Did you say I'm sorry in the moment? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:48 You did? Yes, yes. Oh, that probably made it worse. Probably. What do you do though? What was I to do? You'd say. Actually.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Actually, I don't even know if this is the right one because it actually is, it's pretty cool. I think an apology is better than ploying, like trying to lie at that point. You're doing an about face. I do an about face. You would. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Cause I think they'll choose to believe the nice thing because it hurts to believe the bad thing. Do you know when I think of pretty often, I accidentally was, oh God, it pains me to bring these up. This one's not gonna bother you as much, but to me it's rough. But someone's wife had gotten a new car. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And before we got to what kind it was, I started making fun of the old RAV4. Okay. Because they look kinda like a Fisher Price car. The old one. Because you're still doing it. It's crazy how it looks. Cali had a RAV4, we used to cruise around in it.
Starting point is 01:18:52 I think it was the second, but I think I just read it's like the second or third best selling car in America. You either had a RAV4 or a CRV. You had a CRV. Yeah. I hadn't seen the new one. The new one looks way better. It's a very good looking vehicle.
Starting point is 01:19:05 But I went on a little thing about how bad the RAV4 was. And then my friend said, that's what she got. And I was like, oh my, I felt so bad. And then I was like- This is worse than the watch. Look at that vehicle. That looks like a Play-Doh car. It's like a windup car. Yeah, a wind-up car.
Starting point is 01:19:26 I stand by my aesthetic assessment of the old RAV4. That picture. It looks like something Ziggy would drive. Remember the cartoon Ziggy? Yeah, no I don't. But that picture is meant to look. It's a very visual episode. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Okay, the RAV4. I have so many great memories of Cali's RAV4. Oh, it's a look. It's a very visual episode. Yeah, I know. Okay, the RAV4, I have so many great memories of Cali's RAV4. Oh, it's a great car, very dependable. Everyone who's currently in one right now, I love it. But boy, they had just gotten a new car and I was bagging on. That's bad. That was really bad and I felt bad and I still feel bad.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Then I saw the new one and I'm like, I love the new one. And I don't know if my friend bought it. Oh, you said that. Yeah. So you did about face. I did. And which was your recommendation with the watch. This one was actually sincere.
Starting point is 01:20:17 And I think even the sincere version. Didn't work. Didn't work. Do you feel bad enough to like get them a new car? Yeah. Yeah. If that would erase the whole thing for sure. And if I could buy the other person a new watch and erase it, I would do it.
Starting point is 01:20:33 This is, there's a whole gray area where like it would never make a ninth step in AA. Yeah. I'm not gonna go making amends. Oh, well, if it's bothering you. Well, and I said sorry on the day about the watch, but I just think about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:51 And I would love to figure out how to not think about it. Yeah, that's how I feel about that girl. Which, oh, wait, I kinda remember. With the mole, it's the worst story. It's the worst thing I've ever done. We make mistakes. I know. We really do make mistakes.
Starting point is 01:21:10 We really do. Speaking of children, we just came from the most life-affirming event. Yeah, Delta. The rainbow run. Delta had a rainbow run at her school. The rainbow run. She was so excited.
Starting point is 01:21:23 She was up very early. She wanted to do a top knot for her running and she painted a rainbow on her cheek. Yes. I don't know if that was a transfer tattoo or painted on. If she painted that, that's really impressive. So cute, right on her cheek, a big rainbow. Yeah. And she's in a little jumper.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Oh my God, and we watch her run around, and all the little kids run around. They basically run in a circle for 10 minutes each class. Then they've raised money per lap. Yeah. I'm there to see Delta first, but really close second is Freddie because he runs like a gazelle. Delta's friend, Freddie.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Yeah, it's who I want to adopt. Yeah, he's really a cool, cool kid. He's the coolest. I don't know how someone just born that way. I know you like ran out there to high five him. Like you wanted his approval. Of course. And he high-fived me the first time.
Starting point is 01:22:18 And then on the second lamp, I ran out and he ghosted me. Oh. You saw that. I saw, but I thought you were doing it to some random person. No, no, I was trying to get another round two. I got greedy with Freddie on another high five. This is always your problem. I know. It's the nature of an addict.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Like I liked it the first time I thought, well, let's keep doing that until it breaks. Which in this case was pretty quickly. It was quickly. He had enough. Man, it was cute. But he did tell his mom, she told me that he said,
Starting point is 01:22:47 I'm giving him a truck at some point. He's giving you a truck? No, I'm giving him a truck. Oh! Yeah, he has it in his head that I'm giving him a truck. And I said- Do you think Delta promised him that?
Starting point is 01:22:56 Maybe, and I said, fine, that's fine with me. All he's gotta do is marry Delta, and then he can have all my shit. This is such a common thing, I think, for parents. They like- They want kids to get married. Yes, they decide early. They want their kid to marry this kid.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Well, and I want her to have like 20 relationships before she gets married. Yeah. I think some parents want their kid to date from junior high all the way to adulthood, and I just don't think that's very likely. Do you want to hear just the best story ever? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:29 So Elizabeth and Andy went to elementary school together. They did? They went to elementary school. Andy was Elizabeth's first crush. Oh. She loved Andy, but Andy was like a punk. He was like a little punk kid. Okay, he's too cool. And he was into prints and like a punk. He was like a little punk kid. Okay, he's too cool.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And he was into prints and like snowboarding. And she thought that was really cool and different. Yeah. And then they, you know, Andy moved a couple of years later. Okay, to another town. Yeah, yeah. And she didn't see him for, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:01 20 years or something. She ran into him on the street in New York. No, and that's when they rekindled? Well, they never even kindled, but she was like, I like you. Andy Rosen? Oh, wow. I like that story. Isn't that such a good story?
Starting point is 01:24:17 It'd be like if you married Dairy Queen guy. That's still an option. That is not the same. It'd be like if Andy was mean to Elizabeth. What if he came to you and said, I think about that once a week. I feel fucking terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I'm so sorry. Yeah. I didn't know what I was saying. I was 12. I know you didn't. It's fine. It's really fine. And I liked you then, and I still like you.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Well, I... And now I'm not a dumb- still like you. Well, I- And now I'm not a dum-dum. I'm, I am very flattered. Now I work at Dairy Queen. Oh, I'm good. Oh my God, would have been flipped. Really, well, I can't be with you.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Exactly. That's the real arc of this. Yeah. Okay, circling back. Yeah, to the rainbow run, circles? Yeah, circling, so rainbow run it back. The architectural digest tours. Oh yes.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I would like to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I love those architectural digest, it's called like open door. Yeah, I love those too. And- And I would never do one. Yeah, well, Walton did one recently and it was so good.
Starting point is 01:25:30 His place is gorgeous. It's gorgeous. The hunting lodge in the Hudson Valley. Dakota Johnson. Is your food here? Oh, fuck. Our coffees. Here, I can grab it.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Wop. Yeah, I just love it. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Wop. Yeah, I just love those. And I would really like to do it when my home is done. Okay, if you're listening to our content, you'll die. Look, I'm not a big enough person for them to want me to do it,
Starting point is 01:25:58 but my home is gonna really be worth seeing. And I think you plus Nikki Kehoe. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like she, it's them, it's Nikki Kehoe plus my architect, Bill, Bill Baldwin. Bill. They created like, it's just incredible. Yeah, I think this could happen.
Starting point is 01:26:21 It's very special. So I would love for it to get some love. Yeah, let's, if you're listening to architecture, I'll manifest it. Yeah, I think this could happen. So I would love for it to get some love. Yeah, let's, if you're listening to architecture, I'll manifest it. Yeah, I think this could happen. I'm gonna manifest it. What if people ever reach out to them? I'm sure people do.
Starting point is 01:26:35 But I'm not gonna. I'm just gonna hope and pray. I'm gonna hope and pray. If you want it, this is like dating. This is like the hot guy. If you want to be in architectural, then just ask. This is the hot guy because I don't wanna guy. If you want to be in architectural digest, ask. This is the hot guy because I don't wanna ask. I want them to come to me.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Oh man. Yeah. You gotta ask in life. Oh, hold on. We have a visitor. Mr. Rogers is here. Oh, knock, knock, knock. Oh, look at these cute decorative cups.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Wow. What is what? Vanilla. Mine is, just has cinnamon. Whole milk and cinnamon. Yeah, well, I gotta get my calcium in because of my bone density. All right, because you're,
Starting point is 01:27:13 my mom, I spoke to my mom the other day and she asked me every other time I talked to her if I'm taking my calcium. And every time I say no, no, I'm not taking that. I'm not gonna take it. So that's that. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare. Ooh, it's nice with cinnamon.
Starting point is 01:27:47 I love cinnamon. What's your favorite spice? I like cinnamon. Favorite spice? I like vanilla. I got vanilla. Yeah, you got vanilla. I can't taste the vanilla.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I wouldn't, well, I guess I'll call it a spice. Vanilla's not a spice? Not really. It's a bean. Here are your options. Thank you. I can't think of spices. Yeah, it's a weird question.
Starting point is 01:28:10 I like rosemary in my pasta. Okay, yeah, rosemary, oregano, coriander, cumin, thyme, black pepper, you could go black pepper. Tarragon. Garlic powder, onion powder. Salt, Himalayan pink sea salt. Garlic powder, onion powder. Salt. Himalayan pink sea salt. Let's see if it's salt.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Okay, I'll go cinnamon, because that's the only one that I associate with being sweet, even though on its own, it's not sweet, obviously. Salt is not considered a spice. I just am Googling most popular spices, okay? Oh no, this is already, salt is the first one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Ugh, AI. So this is the most used. Yeah, most commonly used spices, but it shouldn't say salt if it's not. It's like, that's the green hats. This is the green hat riddle that we still haven't told on here. Okay, do you wanna do it now?
Starting point is 01:28:55 Nope. Okay. No. Black pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, paprika, chili powder, cumin, cinnamon, ginger. I like taco seasoning. Yeah, well that normally, chili powder, cumin, cinnamon, ginger. I like taco seasoning. Yeah, well that normally has chili powder, paprika, cumin, a lot of cumin.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Salt, pepper. That's when I douse over my elk now. Oh, it is. I was wondering if you were still on your elk. Yeah, I made a big batch two days ago. Turmeric, very good spice for you. Yeah. Very healthy spice.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Do you think people have turned it off by now? Yeah, I understand. I understand why. Can't fault them really. All right. Well, Bert Kreischer. Oh, well, before I move on from Freddie, we have to give a shout out to Freddie's mom.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Haley. Haley. But I like Dorfurter as Freddie's mom. Hayley. Hayley. But I like to refer to her as Freddie's mom. Like Dax's mom. I just think it's so cute. Yeah, Freddie's mom. That is a good moniker. She is so nice, and we chatted with her.
Starting point is 01:29:56 She's the coolest. Well, this is part of it. It's like, obviously, Freddie is cool, because the mom is so cool, and the dad is so cool. Is legendary, yeah. So the dad makes me nervous and is so good looking. They both are. Both of the parents are gorgeous. And so obviously, Freddie is gorgeous and cool.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Yep. And he wears an earring and he's got siblings. And he's got the cutest little sister you've ever seen in your life. He borrowed his sister's pearl earring today. To be faster. Listen, if I decide to have a kid with a donor, how many am I gonna have to look through? I mean, this is like really- You could see photographs of them?
Starting point is 01:30:39 I don't know about that. You should be able to. I think some you can, some maybe you can't, depending on the bank. Yeah. I mean, the- Would you want Rob's sperm? He's very fertile.
Starting point is 01:30:51 No, he has, I, well, I mean, I would love to make a little Vinny. That would be my dream, but I can't ask anyone I know. Okay. I have to go to the bank. Okay. Actually, that's not true. I could ask someone I know, but no one I like see a lot.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Right. Cause wouldn't you feel, wouldn't both of you feel weird if both of, if one of you, either of you gave me your sperm and then we were all hanging out and my kid's there and it's your kid. Yeah, it would, I would have to be involved. Right. Yeah, I couldn't just pretend like, oh, I donated.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Exactly. And then that gets complicated for everyone. Yes. I guess not if everyone's- And as you know, I offered a friend sperm years ago, over a decade ago. They turned it down. They said, I would love that.
Starting point is 01:31:40 We're gonna try one more round. First I asked Kristin, would you care if I- Of course. And we didn't have kids yet, so I was like naive to what I thought. I thought I would just like, yeah, who cares? I'll give them the sperm though. Be done with it.
Starting point is 01:31:52 They didn't, thank God. Let's just say the parenting I totally disagreed with, it would be crazy for me to be looking on the outside and not wanna rescue a child. Yeah, that's half me. It would be crazy. I'm so grateful that didn't happen. But I was real intentioned.
Starting point is 01:32:12 If I had a kid that was half years in, I was letting them go shopping every day. No, more like what if you had a kid and you were really crazy protective and he wasn't allowed to do anything and he'd never learned to ride a bike. And he didn't. Like that would-
Starting point is 01:32:26 That's more likely for me. That would be hard for me to watch. Wow. Big time. So I would go, this kid's like a, he wants to be out there tackling life. According to you. Well, it's half me, odds are. You definitely can't be giving anyone your star.
Starting point is 01:32:43 No, no. Yeah, this is good enough. But I only feel this way after having kids. Mm-hmm. Like if I was seeing Lincoln around. It wouldn't feel the same would be my guess. I don't know if like, when I look at Lincoln, as you just said, she has my face at that age.
Starting point is 01:32:59 And if I was around her, it would be hard. Oh yeah, I'm forgetting you're around her. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. It'd have to be a situation, to be honest, where it was like, if, A, I have a vasectomy, so it's not even an option. Yeah, exactly. But if we had a friend who wanted that and needed that,
Starting point is 01:33:19 and we decided yes, I would be involved. Stop being friend. Oh, that would, Kristen wouldn't want that. Well, Kristen wouldn't care actually. Well, that's a lot on her. That would be a lot on her for you to then like kind of take on this other kid. Yeah, it's very complicated. If I reverse it, let's say, so she needed to give an egg to somebody,
Starting point is 01:33:45 she gave an egg and then... She demanded to be in their life. That's what's tricky, because there's a mom involved already. In my scenario, there's no dad involved. Oh, right. Well, no, let's say there's no mom involved. She gives it to...
Starting point is 01:34:00 Oh, to a guy. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah, okay, and then this guy, so Jess has a kid with Kristen's egg. Lucky him. That would be a cute kid. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:14 What would win, the tininess or the tallness? I think it'd be red hair and tiny. Oh, like Seth. Yeah, like Seth's kid. Yeah, I don't know how she would juggle it. I would expect her to wanna be very involved in Jess's kid's life, if it was her egg. And-
Starting point is 01:34:35 I mean, the whole family would just have to get on board. You'd have to get on board. It's like, this is basically our goddaughter. This is our goddaughter. Oh, this is our daughter. Well, no, because that's not, see, this is where things get, but what if Jess wanted the child
Starting point is 01:34:50 to have Kristen as the mom? Okay, but just you kind of grew up like separated and you understood like, oh yeah, my dad's gay. So he got a donor, but that's my mom and I love her. Right. So that's one scenario. Yeah. And there's a more common scenario,
Starting point is 01:35:05 which is that the dad or mom wants to raise their kid, like as they wanna raise their kid and not then go to their donor and like co-parent. Unless it's their friend and they're already immersed in one another's life. Yeah, but maybe like, you know, you know how it is with all the parents and stuff. You don't want advice or co-parenting
Starting point is 01:35:29 from some other parent, even if you really like them. Like, we have a pod full of parents, and I actually think this is a great thing about the pod. I mean, of course people ask each other for advice, and there's like conversations about parenting. But very little. But very little. People are parenting differently across the board.
Starting point is 01:35:49 And that's great. And we're all. Everyone's accepting of that. As close to non-judgmental as you can get about it. Exactly. So I don't think it would work if it was like, hey, Dax, just so you know, like I think what you should be maybe doing with Lincoln is, you know.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Yeah, no, it would just have to be with my time with the child. Yeah, that's hard on the kids. All right, we're not doing it. I'm not doing it. I can't do it, and also I'm not doing it. It's not just you. This is an interesting question in general.
Starting point is 01:36:19 I think so. Like, for people. I think it could be done, though. Like, let's just say, like, there is a version where Kristen's egg was given to Jess and he has a little girl and they, and she knows Kristen's her mom and she has a mom and she sees her mom a lot.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Yeah, but maybe he's like, but then the baby might think, but that's, it's hard for a kid, maybe. Maybe. Yeah, I have no idea. I think whatever a kid. Maybe. Yeah, I have no idea. I have no idea. Yeah, I think whatever you're raised in is standard and you don't think too much of it. What people do with the sperm, when they get to choose sperm,
Starting point is 01:37:00 as opposed to choosing your partner, this is different, right? What you have the ability to do when you're choosing sperm is like, you're kind of creating what you think is like the perfect person, mixed with what you know you're giving. So it's like, you know the good qualities you're giving and the bad ones.
Starting point is 01:37:20 If you're being honest with yourself, like I might be handing over these sets of things. So what I don't wanna do. To me, I was like, if you want a deaf, dyslexic, alcoholic, look no further. This is me. Yeah, these are the genetics. No, but I mean like, I guess I'm sort of.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Don't you think you do wanna attempt to level out? Balance. Yes, balance. That's what I'm saying. I'm not gonna go get an addict egg. That's too much addict in the mix. Exactly. You's what I'm saying. I'm not gonna go get an addict egg. That's too much addict in the mix. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? That's probably, I mean, also,
Starting point is 01:37:49 of course there are kids with two addict parents that are beautiful and wonderful and great. Yeah. In some ways you. Your mom is an addict in some ways. Well, she's a love addict. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what, like there's-
Starting point is 01:38:01 And I got both things. I got my dad. I know. Then my dad was a love addict. What am I talking about? Love addicts. You got it all. I got it all, exactly. I mean, that's what like there's... And I got both things. I got my dad. My dad was a love addict. What am I talking about? Love addicts. You got it all. I got it all. So, and you're great. I'm largely...
Starting point is 01:38:12 You're thriving. I'm largely great. We can at least agree that you're thriving and your life has worked out really nicely. So like, you know, you don't... And partners don't do this, I don't think. I mean, sometimes they think through like, oh, this is a good partnership because they're like bouncing me out.
Starting point is 01:38:30 But I don't think that's what a lot of relationships are. No, I think you're not thinking of kids, right? Exactly. Except I was at 32, I was very mission driven. I know, but most people aren't. They're attraction driven. And then they decide they wanna have a kid. And then you start thinking, oh boy, but most people aren't. They're attraction driven. And then they decide they want to have a kid. And then you start thinking,
Starting point is 01:38:47 oh boy, both of us don't clean the house. Exactly. So anyway, it's just interesting. Rob, would you give your sperm to anyone? Yeah, I guess so. In someone you know or? Monica. If someone needed it.
Starting point is 01:39:02 That's nice of you. What about, but what if you. What about do? But what if you saw them every day? I don't think it, I mean, like my sister was a surrogate for a family and birthed two kids for him. Yeah, that feels a little bit. It wasn't her egg, right? No, it wasn't her egg. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:21 Yeah, I think a lot. It's just your personality. I think a lot of people can say like, oh, that's great. I'm just helping. Yeah. I think a lot, it's just your personality. I think a lot of people can say like, oh, that's great, I'm just helping. Yes. And that's great. That is great. And that's not my kid, that's your kid.
Starting point is 01:39:31 That was the donor we talked to on Armchair Anonymous who had like a hundred kids. Yeah. He was just like, yeah, if you want to meet, let's meet. Like I don't feel any- Connection. Or guilt that I'm not raising anyone. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Yeah, I don't think anyone should feel guilt. I would. I think the guilt will come if you saw that the kid wasn't being raised. Right, yeah. Or was struggling. And then like helping would maybe come into question then. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:58 All right, this is- Burt. This is for Burt. Burt. Now, what animals are native to Germany? Because he's under the impression that they don't have any predators there. Any threats.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Yeah. Sleep outside in the woods naked. There's a chapter in Schwarzenegger's book, Education of a Bodybuilder, where he and Franco were, for a period in Germany, weightlifting in the woods naked. And they would have a barbecue and they would drink wine. And he said like, old time gladiators. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Yeah, just imagine walking through the woods and you see two bodybuilders squatting naked with raw meat everywhere. Oh my God. Bottles of wine. Wow, good for them. Yeah. Okay, number 10, chamois.
Starting point is 01:40:50 That's like a goat. Okay, that's also kind of the name of the chamois. Chamois. Chamois? Chamois, good call. Okay, red fox. I think red foxes are so cute. I wouldn't be afraid to fight a red fox.
Starting point is 01:41:07 I don't think you would either. I think you should because I kind of think I'm a red fox. Oh. I'm not, am I? God. Well, hold on. I'm not, as soon as I said it, I knew I wasn't. I do think fox is an appealing animal to identify with
Starting point is 01:41:21 if you're a woman. Yeah, because that's a- They're clever, they're athletic. Well, people call, if you're high, you say you're a fox. Yeah, because that's a- They're clever, they're athletic. Well, people call, if you're high, you say you're a fox. Foxy, foxy lady. But I'm not, I'm just a chinchilla. Well, chinchillas are very cute. Have you ever held a chinchilla?
Starting point is 01:41:36 They're like the armchair anonymous leg guy. They're like jam. Oh, geez, no. They don't have a rib cage or- See? Eight greater horseshoe bat, They're like jam. Oh, geez. No, they don't have a rib cage or. You see? Eight greater horseshoe bat, seven bicolored shrew. At least I'm not a bike.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Am I a bicolored shrew? There you are. No. No, no, no, no. I kind of look like that. That looks like a little mouse. Shrews are clever, right? They're supposed to be real clever.
Starting point is 01:42:03 European badger. Now that's a tough customer. You don't want to tangle with a little mouse. Shoes are clever, right? They're supposed to be real clever. European badger. Now that's a tough customer. You don't want to tangle with a badger. Well, except that its diet is made up of root tubers, large insects, carrion, ick, cereals, and small mammals. It eats cereal? Yeah, it's kinda cute. I wonder what his favorite eats, Captain Crunch.
Starting point is 01:42:24 You're a small mammal, I just will add. Okay. So you should watch your- Because I'm a- I way rather fight a red fox than a badger. Yeah, that's probably right. Okay, wild boar. Scary.
Starting point is 01:42:36 European wild cat. Now these are interesting because they're big, but they look like regular domestic cats. Yeah. And I find that creepy, I don't like that. I know, if I see a domestic cat in the woods, I think a witch is nearby. Yes, did a spell, made that cat huge.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Or maybe is a witch and can transform. Harry Potter. Okay, European Pine Martin. What's that? That is a family of Badger, Weasel, otter and mink. Wooded areas, they're found in wooded areas. Sharp feet. Bast runners, both good on the ground and in trees.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Fire salamander, very scary. If you're barefoot. Poison glands. Oh. And alpine ibex. Ibex. All right. So there's nothing I'm too scared of here.
Starting point is 01:43:31 He was right. I'll give him that. He was right. Okay. Do the dealers in Vegas get to keep their tips or does it go to the house? Nevada laws allow tips to be shared among employees as long as the employer doesn't keep any of them. This gives casinos and other employers in Nevada the authority to require employees
Starting point is 01:43:49 to share tips with both tipped and non-tipped workers as long as none of the participants are considered the employer. This would be a bad arrangement for me. I would have a very hard time with this. You would not like it. If I saw someone with a shitty personality that was not kind to everyone, I'd be like, dude, you got to brighten it up so we can get, we're pulling our tips. I'm over here bringing in 300 bucks.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Learn some jokes, do your hair, brush your teeth. You know what? They should take Jess's class. They should. Cause he's really changing the game over there. Yeah. He really is. People's tips are doubling and.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Yeah, he has all these restaurants, it's called the Restaurant Launch,, he has all these restaurants. It's called the Restaurant Launch and he has all these restaurants that he helps. He like comes in and teaches them how to up their game and how to like really be a good server. That's awesome. Now 10 highest grossing comedy tours of 2024.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Oh, here we go. We should get Mindy on the phone for this. Mindy Kaling? Cause she loves counting people's money. Oh yeah. Yeah, this is her and I's kind of list. Yeah, she wants this listed on people's houses. Yeah, should we call her?
Starting point is 01:44:59 No, she's busy. Let's call her. No. You're so scared. I, yeah, I don't want to bother her. Don't bother her. No! You're so scared. I, yeah, I don't wanna bother her. Don't bother her. Come on. We bother a lot of people. What are we gonna do?
Starting point is 01:45:10 Tell her about everyone's money? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Oh, you're so scared. You're so ballsy. This is like the situation with the watch. I'll probably like, I'll regret this. Yes, and you're gonna drag me into this?
Starting point is 01:45:24 She's probably so scared to answer, I've never called her. I'm playing it so cool with her and here you are. Yeah, I'm burning, I'm lighting this bridge way on fire. She might be on her kid's rainbow run. Your call hasn't. Yeah, she's not gonna answer. All right. I feel really relieved.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Okay, great, I'm just gonna leave her a quick voice memo. Oh my God. You're gonna call back? No, to leave her a quick voice memo. Oh, my God. You're going to call back? No, I'm going to leave a voice memo. Monica's so up in arms right now that I had the audacity to call you. Mindy, I'm so sorry. We know you're very busy. I don't know why she did this. She claims you're too busy to take a phone call.
Starting point is 01:45:57 But we were about to read the list of the top 10 comedy tours, the financials. And I said, I need my friend Mindy here so we can count everyone else's money. 10 comedy tours, the financials. And I said, I need my friend Mindy here so we can count everyone else's money. Let's get her on the phone for this. And that's what happened. We're happy you didn't answer. Monica's very relieved you didn't answer.
Starting point is 01:46:14 She thinks this might be the end of our burgeoning friendship. Okay. I'm sweating again. Yeah, that made you very nervous. God. You know, there's only a few people in this world who make me nervous. I know, again. Yeah, that made you very nervous. God. You know, there's only a few people in this world who make me nervous. I know, she's one of them.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Oh, you wanna call Matt next? Yep. Oh my God. Hey man, you wanna know how much money all these standup tours are making? Okay. Here we go. Joe Coy, number 10, and we're gonna go in 10 to one.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Okay. Joe Coy, he grows $26 million. He did 83 shows, 368,000 tickets sold. And he's been doing this for years. Yep. Oh yeah. I wonder if he has a huge mansion somewhere. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:46:58 He should go on Cribs. Oh, they all should. They should. Yeah, the whole season should be top. Oh, they should. That's a good idea. Yeah. Okay, number nine, Adam all should. They should. Yeah, the whole season should be top. Oh, they should. That's a good idea. Yeah. OK, number nine, Adam Sandler.
Starting point is 01:47:09 He grows $27 million, 26 shows only. A million a show. 261,000 tickets. Gosh, good for him. Number eight, Jerry Seinfeld, another classic. Two guys who have so much money and they just can't help but make more. They can't.
Starting point is 01:47:29 27.8 million, 36 shows, 199,000 tickets. So, Sandler's making more per show than Seinfeld. That's interesting. Seinfeld must play smaller. I also think Adam Sandler is not as, he's harder to get. Seinfeld does do comedy tours every now and then. That's true.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Adam Sandler, like woof. Trevor Noah, number seven. 29 million. 29.7. 30 million. 94 shows, 392,000 tickets. Number six, here's our guy. Here he is. Bird Cricer, no shirt.
Starting point is 01:48:12 No shirt. 29.7 million. Exact same as, I wonder why they put him above Trevor. Because 64 shows, less shows. Oh, less shows. Yeah. Pound for pound. 388,000 tickets. Wow.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Wow. Number five, another friend of the pod, Sebastian Maniscalco. Very enjoyable episode. Check it out in the archives. Yes. $36.5 million for Sebastian. I love it.
Starting point is 01:48:44 53 shows, 293,000 tickets. Oh baby. Number four, Cat Williams. Now this, just let everyone know I read this list. Yeah. Like three weeks ago. Yeah. I think after we had Bert on, I got real nosy.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Cause I asked him how much is he making more on tour or from his podcast. And when he said way more on tour, I thought, well, what is that number? Anyways, Cat Williams, I thought, was, we go on podcasts, he blasts a bunch of people and be very viral. Although somehow you didn't see his last round of viral.
Starting point is 01:49:24 He did one interview that he just, he lined up 20 people and just let him have it. I had no idea he was the king of standup. Number three. I mean, I'm sorry, number four, number four. How much? 37.5 million. God, I wanna see his house.
Starting point is 01:49:40 60 shows, 399,000 tickets. Oh, tasty. Number three, Gabriel Iglesias. Sure. 42.8 million. Ooh, wow. 124 shows, 603,000 tickets. Number two, Matt Rife.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Matt Rife, this is the cute comedian. Yeah, he's younger. Good looking. 57.5 million. God, what do you do in your 20s with 57? It's a lot. I hope he has so many dumb Lamborghinis and Ferraris. I hope he's giving to charity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:16 256 shows. That's too many. That's everyday. That's a lot. 733,000 tickets. Wow. Number one, Nate Bergazzi. Nate. 82.2 million. 82.2 million. I want him to hit 100 million so bad.
Starting point is 01:50:36 He will. For no reason. 148 shows. One million, 100000 tickets. Wow. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow tickets. Wow. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. Pretty cool. Okay, are orcas acting up?
Starting point is 01:50:48 Yeah, yeah. They're ramming boats and- Getting wily. They're getting real wily. Now, what's way more interesting is while I was editing this episode, and we were at the orcas part, the orcas part was part of the sea world portion of this episode and we were at the orcas part. The orcas part was part of the SeaWorld portion of this episode where he talks about finding someone's ring at SeaWorld.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Oh, yes. And he wanted to- Because he finds everything. He finds things. But then we were talking about SeaWorld and orcas and I'm in the middle of that part listening and then email pops up. It's a request, it's an ad request for SeaWorld. Yeah, that's crazy. At the exact moment. And let's be clear, it's not an ad to come visit SeaWorld.
Starting point is 01:51:33 It is a request for us to have them as a sponsor. Correct. Which your computer kind of listened to that and figured that out. No. Yeah, that's really wild. That was such a glitch. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Lazy, lazy, lazy. Okay, now what is Campari? Ooh, I regret to inform you. I know, okay, you told me that Burt did have the bee's knees. That night. And loved it. No.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Yeah. And I haven't done his yet. Yeah, you're not good at this pact. I feel bad. And then you were supposed to do it last week. I wasn't. I didn't do it again. I know. Tonight's a drinking night, right?
Starting point is 01:52:15 Friday, yeah, I could probably get some down. Yeah, why don't you try it? The problem is, but I'm gonna be open because I want to do this for Burke. I just know I'm not gonna like the Campari spritz. Well, not with that attitude. I just, I don't even like Aperol spritz, which everyone likes.
Starting point is 01:52:34 And this is like a stronger, more bitter version of Aperol. But you know what? I'm gonna do it. You never drink Jack Daniels, huh? No. No. But I drink whiskey.s, huh? No. No. But I drink whiskey. Okay, just not Jack.
Starting point is 01:52:49 Yeah. What about a Jack Ginger for you? But I don't like Jack Daniels. Well, you might with ginger ale. Well, why do I have to? Why can't I go with something fancy? Because it's the best drink. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:00 It's the one I've drank the most of. Oh, you do ginger ale. Yeah, Jack ginger's ginger ale and Jack Daniel's. What about ginger beer? It's not my favorite. Really? No. Jack and Diet's the best taste, but you don't even like Diet Coke,
Starting point is 01:53:16 so I don't wanna start you there. Can I do like, can I do like, blans? Do you shave your sides and start drinking Jack? I mean. I drink whiskey. I drink old fashions. Oh, what's your brand?
Starting point is 01:53:30 Knob Hill or one of these fancy. No, I like Four Roses. I like Blanton's. Blanton's? Yeah. I don't know about Blanton's. Blanton's is fancy. Is it?
Starting point is 01:53:38 A lot of them have all come out in the last 20 years since I quit. Four Roses you probably would have liked. It's really good and it's better. Bourbon? Jack Daniels. No, I like Jim Beam and Jack Daniels. Yeah, you're going classic.
Starting point is 01:53:52 That's right. Yeah. It's like Levi's jeans, you know? Mm-hmm. It's what America was built on. Woodford, have you ever had Woodford? No. Woodford Reserve, very good.
Starting point is 01:54:02 These are triggering names for me a little bit. Cause they sound elite, oh my. They good product. These are triggering names for me a little bit. Cause they sound elite. Oh my. They're trying to be like, Oak Barrel Whiskey. Like calling a man's name. Jim Beam. Ew, no. Jack Danvers. Bill Rutherford.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Mike Pence. Oh my. What if Mike Pence had a, he should have a whiskey. I could see it. Yeah, well. Actually he should have a gin. No. Mike Pence gin. Absolutely not, because I like gin.
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