Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard - Conor McGregor & Jake Gyllenhaal

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

Conor McGregor is a mixed martial arts fighter, businessman, and actor. Jake Gyllenhaal is an actor. Conor and Jake join the Armchair Expert to discuss what their experience was collaborating to remake Roadhouse, how promoting a movie is different than promoting a fight, and what the motivation was for Conor to learn mixed martial arts as a young man. Conor, Jake, and Dax talk about what it’s like growing up in hypermasculine environments, how they approach failure, and what it’s like raising children as a fighter. Conor and Jake explain what training for a fight does for your physical health, what it takes to create believable fight scenes, and how much they love being creators. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dak Shepard, I'm joined by Monica Padman. Hi. We have a rare occurrence, occasionally we'll interview two people at the same time. It's pretty rare, but it happens. And it also marks back to back episodes where we were out on the ground somewhere else

interviewing people. On the road. Out of our safety zone. Out of the attic. In this case, we were at a hotel in Austin, Texas. That's right. And it'll come up in the fact check, what all we did while we were there. Yeah. But this is Jake Gyllenhaal and Conor McGregor.

Jake is an Academy Award nominated actor and Conor McGregor is a multi-weight UFC champion entrepreneur, he's the only person to hold belts in two different weight classes. Fascinating human being and he's never done a podcast. Yes, this was his first podcast which was super fun. Yes, I'm tempted to say as a caveat that my hope and aim for this episode

was to be able to connect with Connor and get him to trust me and explore some maybe more emotional things that are not readily discussed with him. So I guess I got a little subconscious, like I think as you're hearing it, you'll hear a bro-ier side of me. Oh, interesting. And I don't know why I wanna just flag that going in,

but I hope people will give me a little benefit of the doubt and know that I'm trying to get somewhere. Which I feel like we got. That's fair to say. Yeah, and of course the reason they're together is they are in a re-imagining or remake of one of my all-time favorite movies. For people who heard the Jake Gyllenhaal episode last year,

he just kind of as a throwaway mentioned he was with Conor McGregor. And I was like, what the fuck are you doing with Conor McGregor? And he's like, oh my God, we're remaking Roadhouse. And I went berserk if people remember. Roadhouse is my movie. I mean, top five, what a film.

And this Roadhouse delivers whole-leaf fistfights and car chases and boat chases. I mean, it's full throttle. So Roadhouse is streaming this Thursday, March 21st, on Prime Video. So you can check it out the day it comes out. You don't even have to go anywhere. That's fun.

So fucking pop some popcorn, put on a tight shirt, get some dumbbells. Get a drink going. Get several drinks going and enjoy Roadhouse. And then lastly, just wanted to let everyone know the Armchair Anonymous prompts for next month are, tell us about a crazy cosplay experience, tell us about your worst day ever,

tell us your best cautionary tale, or tell us a a crazy cosplay experience, tell us about your worst day ever, tell us your best cautionary tale, or tell us a crazy experience you had as a delivery driver. In any many ways you could be a delivery driver. Please enjoy Jake Gyllenhaal, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Connor McGregor. Trip Planner by Expedia. You were made to have strong opinions about sand. We were made to help you and your friends find a place on the beach with a pool and a marina and a

waterfall and a soaking tub. Expedia, made to travel. He's an armchair expert He's an armchair expert He's an archer expert He's an archer expert You guys, it's so awesome that you're here. Hello! He was awesome. How are you?

Good to meet you, brother. I'm so happy to get to talk to you. Hi, I'm Monica. Very nice. You look so nice. I love the purple. This is Jake. I always shave with my left hand. We had Jake on 11 months ago, and it was a beautiful interview. It was so fun. Yeah.

I listened to it on the flight here. You did? Yeah, to reacquaint myself. It was so fun. The chairs aren't as nice, but they're great. And by the way, the row, I've been like, you know. Do you think I mean that? I've told you on the row. I love it.

I felt very flattered because after you visited us, you sent us both gifts, which was very sweet of you. You gotta send us something really nice. Yeah, Jake already sent us something nice. Jake sent us a present after we interviewed him last time. Do you like alcohol? I do. I make alcohol when I'm in last production.

I love it. You're not drinking alcohol? I love it. No, but you should have seen me do it when I did it. It was something to behold. Coming out with 00 forced out. The 00 thing is growing legs in it. You got to be careful with the gargle.

You got to be careful with it. I'm an athlete, right? And I'm also an athlete that makes alcohol. Yes, yes. They're kind of yin and yang, you know. Put one with the other. So I got to be careful with it. I have been partying like a rock star,

probably like yourself back in the day, something to behold also. Sure, sure, a real sight. But hey, it's Paddy's Month! I'm gonna say I'm the Irish St. Patrick's Month, I don't give a fuck also. But I know my limits as well, and my boundaries, and I'm coming to the finish of this.

I've got this Roadhouse promotional tour, I've got St. Patrick's Day, but I've got a fight on the horizon. I just want the fucking date. If they give me a date and I say, right, well I know it, I can't miss. I'm in the best shape ever, and then I'll got a fight on the horizon. I just want the fucking date if they give me a date and I say right Well, I know I can't miss I'm in the best shape ever and then I have a party and go heavy on it And then you know, I kind of kind of build it back up. But if I have a date I won't do that Yeah, you must reverse engineer your life. Yeah these hard dates

But I got to tell you we're competitors then because I have a non-alcoholic beer. I do Memory Jake, so I'm gonna tell you one ofger's. What a memory, Jake. Wow. So I'm going to tell you one of our tag lines and I feel like you're going to be jealous. What's it called, first of all? Ted Seger's. Ted Seger's. Good strong name, right? What is it, a lager?

Yes, yes. I have two lagers as well, I haven't released them. Oh you have? So I own a brewery in Ireland. I know, I know all about you. I have a house lager that I made, Forged Lager. It's a light, crispy beer and it's very successful on premise. I haven't bottled it or canned it yet.

There's so many lagers out there. You know, I'm looking at this whole thing like I'm looking at a map. I've got the stout doing well. But I've actually got two lagers with the same recipe. I added more hops into the crispy one and made a darker beer. So it's like a beer of Moretti or a Heineken.

I love it. I didn't think you and I would have anything deeply in common, but we're like, what's going on? It's Paddy's Day, if I'm not mistaken. Oh my God, I don't know. That bad? have anything deeply in common, but we're like... Get back on the table, man. It's Paddy's day. Oh, no. I have to draw the line there. You went heavy, just all day, every day? Yeah, and I love cocaine so much. It smells so good. It really smells nice.

You've got to be careful. We've got a full-blown addict audience over here. But I just want to hit you with two... You look fresh, man. You look fresh. It looks like there's a comeback on the cards man, I'm telling you. Oh my God. I believe. Let's hang when I'm 70.

But I just have two slogans I want to hit you with, because I feel like they're going to really, really register. One is, Ted Segers is the only logger I trust when I'm alone with my sister-in-law. Okay. Yeah. The next one is, drive fast, fuck slow, Ted Segers. Right. Do you guys write that on the thing?

Yeah, the poster's in the bar right now. Let me go back to the sister-in-law. So sister-in-law not related to your brother's wife, is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's two ways to go. Either you don't want to be drunk around her, because it can go either way. Maybe you'll hook up with her, maybe you'll kill her. Don't blame sulfur what sugar done, you know. Don't blame alcohol for what cocaine done if you get me, you know. I don't know. People are, you know, it's 2024,

you wouldn't know what to be going on. It was our fault. I'm going anyway, man. I love a beer now, actually. I'm like, I'll have some cocaine. I'll have some. I'll have some. Rob, get the mirrors up.

Okay, how long have you guys been doing this? Jake's face. Matches my face. Wait, I do want to call out something that's really obvious about the two of you. And it's really wonderful. It's an incredible dynamic. Cause I've already interviewed Jake

and I've watched you in a lot of interviews. Jake, you're very careful. You're kind of meticulous about what you say. You want to make sure that you're representing yourself correctly. It's a good way to do it. Do you agree or not? Yeah, deep tinker.

I don't want to go forward unless you think that's true. I mean, thoughtful. I try at least feigning articulation. He's running at like a hundred miles an hour. I'm in like a sort of second gear generally and then he can get me into you know. When we're together I'm announcing hey everyone's a notorious Conor McGregor check out our new movie Broadhouse on Prime and then Jake's like I want something in front of my name what was the name of it? Anxious Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, anxious Jake Gyllenhaal. That's incredible. Jittery Jake Gyllenhaal. Jittery Jake.

Oh. No, the thing about it is that we didn't meet, actually, in person until he came on set. Oh, no. Yeah, because he was there maybe a week before. I was working a lot. We had choreography, but they were rehearsing somewhere else.

We were shooting. And then when he came on set, it was like a crowd followed him. People were craning their necks when he walked on set. He's such an incredible energy when he walks in that to me, all I want to do is like watch him. Watch the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So inevitably when we're together, I'm just sort of like, we're doing interviews and people ask me a question and he answers them. That sounds good to me. That's fine. You just defer. It's a great pairing because you guys are on opposite sides of the spectrum in that regard. Definitely. And then of course it then feeds into the movie which is beautiful.

It's like you're very very no bravado, you have a regret about your past, you're kind of low-key, you don't even want to be doing the thing and then you arrive there's a tornado here, it's loud as fuck. It's the most wonderful asymmetry. There's potential mega business between myself and Jake Gyllenhaal. We can do a lot of stuff, 100%. That first scene where he headbutts me, that was the first time we ever were on screen together. I remember that moment going like, what the fuck am I doing in a scene where Conor O'Garrick is about to headbutt me? And then I had to remind myself that I'd been doing this for a while.

That was a space I could hold, then he headbutted me. You might not have felt it from me, right? Maybe I'm a better actor any headbutt I mean. You might not have felt it from me, right? Maybe I'm a better actor than I probably give myself credit. But I felt that for sure. You're a true veteran, as good as it gets, as big as it gets, 75 films. I felt that as well. I didn't want to let you down.

I didn't want to let anyone down. And Tink was not doing my best, you know. So I put in the time I put in him for you. Yeah, but you said early on, he said I'm a white belt in this. That was like the first conversation we had. That's a real martial arts way of looking at things, especially the mixed martial arts. You know, you look at a guy who's a specialist in boxing or kickboxing or some discipline. They have too much of an ego then to go and become a white belt again.

You have got to become a white belt again. You've got to start from the ground up. I used the lessons I had learned in my martial arts game, studying and learning different crafts into the movie business. I'm a white belt coming into this and I'm absolutely blessed and thankful and grateful and a lucky Irish SOB that I'm at the London right next to this man and with director Doug Liman, with producer Joel and the team that was behind it. I just approach it with a novice mindset.

I'm going to argue you weren't a white belt. Yes, I'm going to argue that too actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll team up on him. He'll still win. Here we go. I'm not getting up on him. You just probably want to... Who would exit, I think, at this point. You know, when I look at your career as a fighter, the most obvious comp is Muhammad Ali. As far as just showman, showman, showman, I'm almost even curious,

would you rank yourself higher as a promoter than a fighter? And is that a dicey question? I think you're one of the best promoters to ever live. I agree with that. And you're one of the best fighters to ever live, but I think you're literally tied with Ali as far as creating excitement and vitriol and passion. You're a fucking showman. And storyteller.

I think above all things. I'm a damn good fighter. I'm a damn good fighter. I don't really, I'm great to be honest with you. And you know, my reckless nature. That's the best attitude. My reckless nature at times. I'd never been beaten, I've beat myself going in.

I'll take that as a good compliment. Ali's the man, Ali began that showmanship element. He started it. To the fight game. I get it, but for me, there's a lot more left in my game and I look forward to getting back in the show. I'm not trying to take anything away from you as a fighter, but I'm saying you actually will go down in history is probably tied as the best showman to do it. And I also think the transition for guys, The Rock and WWE, into acting,

it's like they're already acting. They have a character. They have a persona. They have the confidence of getting up in front of a crowd and talking. You're at these preface conferences. You've been practicing show business for a minute. Yeah, but not even practicing, my man. There's no act on. I am who I am in the given moment. If Jake is a different person to me, I'm gonna be a different person to Jake. Yeah, yeah.

You get me? And so some fighters, that's the way it is. Look at the party A fights. I knock them out in the first one and then he comes back and we're friendly. And then a few things get said after he gets the win back. And then it just changes again. It's not acting, it's just what it is.

Well you have facets to you. But I have like it's all. Yeah, you're a dad. And the fight game has put that to the forefront in front of the world. For those Mayweather press conferences, 25,000 people are there for the press conferences. Yes!

The very first one. The way the UFC press conferences are laid out, you sit on a table and then the media asks you, question, hello Conor, how was training? In boxing it's not the case. You walk in and you gotta say something. So I'm sitting up on the stage, I got to go up and say a big speech

and I fucking have nothing in my head, I don't know what to be saying, and I just roll with it. I want to go back to the first big press tour they put you on, I think was for Aldo, yeah, maybe, where you went to eight cities. Yeah, yeah, and then he pulled down on me, man. Then I had to do it again. That first press tour, again, Jake and I can relate to this,

we've been doing press tours for movies for 25 years That would have helped me for sure. Well, that's what I'm curious. I wasn't dialed in yet So on that first press tour where UFC's like you're the guy we're gonna commit some actual capital to this We're gonna send you around the country and raise some fervor for this live event which set records It was the first time I've ever done that what was your learning curve on that? Like I'm curious you couldn't have started where I see you now, where you can go toe to toe with Mayweather and talk shit. Well, you know, I was up against the pound for pound goat at that time, Jose Aldo,

undefeated in 10 years and an absolute menace in the octagon. People thought he was going to run through me. I thought otherwise. I had confidence. At that time, he's a 28 year old man. I made him feel about 48. He's saying he's past his prime, all this thing. It was all just trying to get into his head. I didn't do it like even thinking I was going to do it.

I believed it also. You are over the hill. You're out there having too many wars. I was live at one of his fights against Chad Mendes where he ended up fighting. It was an absolute war. It's a crazy game to fight game. That promo and that world tour really set a precedent

for the industry. We were still kind of fringe. Now I'm hearing that we're top four in the sports. So you got your American football, baseball, and the UFC now is top four. Which means that either passed basketball or. Or NHL, I think was the other one. I'm not sure.

Now this was someone from Endeavor saying that, but I believe for me it is, for me it's top one. I love that, even in early interviews, I was listening to one with you and the guy's like, you know, they just said you're the fifth most recognizable sports star. Oh, it was Tony Robbins. And you go, that's a shit test.

I think they got the data wrong. I'm number one. That's it, man, I think they got the data wrong Are you always that confident? Just gotta fake it till you make it. I always felt that I was the man That's the way I felt this way I carried myself and it worked and as you're saying Jake about the forward of me rocking around And people take a fucking circus sometimes life is like a circus like an animal in the cage Although you're out and you're free sometimes. It's like you're in the cave, but you do have two older sisters. What does that mean? I'll tell you he's got an older sister Okay, so probably the only nice part about you was implanted by those older sisters. Yes

So my mother okay mother the things we often are Tackling in here because I suffer from it is like I'm from a blue collar shit hole place in Detroit I'm a fucking drunk. I want to know about the shit stuff people's been through that's now made them who they are today. I see that in you that you're interested in that. So for me, the most pivotal moment I'm curious about is you walk into a boxing school at 12. That's the first time you walk in.

And I wanna know why we walk in there. I wanna know that too. Like most young boys, why they get into combat sport is to defend themselves. I was nervous in scenarios. I was attacked once or twice. It was from a rough area. I'm from a rough town, Dublin 12.

You get into fights. Were you small for your age? I was small enough. My hair was real blonde. I stood out like a sore thumb. I never got away with nothing. And you had sisters, no older brothers? No older brothers.

And my older sisters didn't have a fight themselves. Yeah, no. No one's talking about my older sisters. Wasn't like I was a major thing, but I just wanted to be able to defend myself. I knew that was critical as a young boy growing up. It led me to begin to study the arts. Do you remember the moment though?

Like, is there a moment where you went, oh, this feels right? Why I said, oh, I'm going to a gym, fuck this. Everyone and everything they do, there's like the hard work. There's the moment where everyone goes like, well, I could do that. And they're like, well, are you willing to put in that work, right?

And with every job. And there's that moment where you know it doesn well, I could do that. And they're like, well, are you really gonna put in that work, right? And with every job. And there's that moment where you know, it doesn't matter, you just gotta go back. One of the moments, I think I've spoke this before, I was with this chick, right? I was young, she was about 16. I was, whether or not she was older. I was only about 12, the kill.

Respect, yeah. You know, so. And we're walking down the street, and she had an older boyfriend, who was older than me as well. These motherfuckers drive by me in a car, packed out about five or six of them. And a man jumps out, and she's with the guy,

but she's with me, do you know that way? So I'm just standing on the road, and I just threw a few shots, and we just covered up and took the shots, and I got left with a yoke. We kept going, and I think it happened again. The second time I grabbed the whole thing, and I ended up in top position,

I just rolled him over. And then I got out of there with same thing as out manned, out numbered, and out aged everything. And then I just said, no, I'm not letting that happen. Someone walks up to me, they're not gonna walk up on me twice and that's it, it was history. And straight into the gym and I learned how to fight. Okay, so right now, this is the most exciting thing.

So the reason I have to start getting involved with fighting is I'm in sixth grade and the most popular girl in eighth grade asks me out, Sasha Croft said. Similar, similar. And I'm like, grade and the most popular girl in eighth grade asked me out, Sasha Kravtsev. Similar, similar. And I'm like, oh my God, what a miracle. And then guess what? Every eighth grade boy fucking hated my guts. And so almost the exact same situation

where it's like I let someone basically beat me up because I was afraid. And the pain, I try to explain this, Monica's like, why are you being barfied? The physical pain for me doesn't even compare to the regret pain of not fighting back. Trying to fall asleep at night going, fuck, you didn't even fucking fight back.

That mental agony where you go, there isn't a broken nose that hurts as much as that. Was any of that happening? Yeah, for sure. I just wanted to get out of there. I said it was an outless tail-machy. Yeah, you're scared. I'm like, what's going on?

Exactly. There's a moment in life a dude might decide that the back down mental agony and regret you'll never experience that again Who wants to be the motherfucker that backs down? What chick is gonna be wanting to be with the guy that backs down? What's so great about him is how he's been in defeat. I would say one of the things that makes him such an interesting Personality and showman and what I really admire is watching him in defeat. No, that's the most mind-blowing part of it all. Sorry I don't mean to jump in there.

We're definitely, in my analogy, George Foreman, the story of Ali Foreman, and up to that point, George Foreman is undefeated, he's such a heavy hitter. He's the baddest motherfucker on planet Earth. Ali beats him, he goes into a depression for like five years. It ruins his own identity. You're in a game where you're gonna get losses.

It's not like boxing in that you You're going to pick up some losses. But you've had some streaks that ended. And in those streaks, I imagine, you felt that same indomitability. What did it do to you emotionally and mentally when you would suffer one of those defeats? It's never a no. You just start just playing back everything,

but it happens. The sun rises the next day. But it kills some people. It kills some people. The sun rises the next day. I wouldn't let the. It kills some people. The sun rises the next day. I wouldn't let the fear of failure out urge everyone. Don't let the fear of failure stop you from going out and experiencing it and doing things that frighten you that you may lose.

The sun rises the next day. We go back and we go again. This is what martial arts is. Guess what? Every single martial artist, every single UFC fighter you see right now has gone through a million losses inside the gym. You get beaten to gym every fucking day. It is what it is. It can happen.

It's about adjusting and coming back. But I appreciate you saying that, Jake. I only have a few fucking losses. They're overplayed. People want to downplay my success. I'm coming up on 20 knockouts in professional mixed martial arts history. A feat that very, very few have, along with all the world titles won. 20 professional KOs is a huge feat.

So I focus on the good. And if I think about everyone I fought in the octagon, more than once I've smoked. I upended Nate Diaz after he beat me. I KO'd Pardee in 60 seconds, and I was walking him like a fucking dog in a lead in the second fight. I caught the leg, caught Lucky,

and then the toward one, he was getting broke up as well. This is the moment that happens when someone's got an edge on him and then he's like, nope. I ain't sitting here like that, yeah. Keep thinking. But Connor, this is why. I was just on me now to control this animal in me as well. Because I tell you, nope. I ain't sitting here like that, yeah. Keep thinking. But Connor, this is why. So I was just on me now to control this animal in me as well.

Cause I tell you what, if I didn't commit everything to it and I was partying away while I was training, which I've done, I've done it all. I've partied on fucking fight week. And then I've lived like a monk. I've done them both and I've had very few runs on both. So it's not even about that. But I think from my own gut, if I didn't dial in

and it didn't go my way, which can anything can happen? I'm very, very confident. I like the opponent lines up that I have. I like the level I'm at now skill-wise and what my recent work is. But if I didn't give it my all and it went my way, I don't think I'd be able to live with myself. I'd really be disappointed in that.

Whereas if I gave it everything and I took it, I'd say, now enjoy the entertainment, people, you're welcome. Because at the end of the day, we're giving something for the people. Life is this big arching story, and your fighting's a part of it, but what is amazing, and Ali had this.

Ali lost, and then he'd come back, and he lost. In the overall it doesn't matter. No, do you think anyone's looking back and not saying Ali's the greatest? He was. In what manner, like, why do you think that? Do I think he's the greatest boxer? I mean, he's not.

Yeah, because he beat every kind of guy. Because I was asked what's my favorite movies of Jake, he was asked what's his favorite fight of mine. And he said something that I was surprised by, but it's actually accurate. It's bigger than fighting. It's the whole thing is what he was saying. Like, you step back, you're looking at the micro.

Like, you're talking about this fight and that fight. And I'm saying as the macro lens, when you pan out, I think you will, if you're not already, you probably already have the gratitude. But when you look back on the deathbed, you're like, oh, all those little the gratitude. But when you look back on the deathbed, you're like, oh, all those little chapters and I made the story super interesting

and I doubted myself and I refound my courage and I went right back at the same guy. That's a much more complex and colorful and interesting life. Well, there's a reason some people supersede the sport. If you don't know the sport, but you know the person. Is he the only UFC fighter you know? I don't know anything about.

And Jake's the only actor you know, right? Exactly, I know. He was totally overcome. Did you just learn that I was an actor? Monica just learned that I was an actor. She thought you were a fashionista. She literally. Yeah, which you are.

Which you are. Wait, I do have a question for you because I wanna know how universal this thing is. A girl made me feel inadequate, basically, and that made the trajectory. Well, not a girl. A girl made me feel inadequate, basically, and that made the trajectory. Well, not a girl. A girl made me feel adequate. From a physical standpoint, you fought her

or just guided you to succeed? I just mean the thing that you guys both connect with. Do you have that? Like, do all men, did the trajectory of your life change because of this male competition? Probably. For me, yeah, yeah. For you, for sure.

Probably, yeah. Are you saying that happened to you also? No, I'm trying to figure out a- Oh, is it a man thing? Yes. Jake's saying he doesn't have a- But Jake has a different disposition, so I'm wondering. Yeah, I'd like to sing and stuff.

Exactly! Also, context, context. Like, you grew up in Hancock Park. Right. Where's Hancock Park? In LA. Fancy pants. No fancy pants in LA, no way. Definitely a fair share of fights,

but yes, I hear what you're getting at. It's not the same thing. Every kid I went to school with his dad worked on the line at General Motors, right? And they taught him, you fucking punch that kid in the mouth the second he says something. It's the Kentucky culture of pride that's all up north.

Like it's a different thing. And there were five, six fights a week in school. And then there's scheduled fights at the Milford cinema on Friday night. I have this deep respect for that because it is so different from the world in which I grew up to answer your same, Monica. I think I grew up with this different type of expression.

There was a focus and a honing in and a consistency every day in trying to understand a different kind of craft. So I get that when you perform and you're on stage and the energy of that and what you get back from an audience. There are similarities, but they're not the same ones. Though I admired that, particularly like in the space

of growing up and going, what's this world I didn't know anything about? So I went and played all these roles and learned from all these people. You've been special forces, you've been all these hyper-masculine things. But to learn from people like him, remember when I was sitting next to Eminem,

when I did this movie, Southpaw, and he did the music and we did all this press together. And I was like, what the hell? I've listened to all his music, how am I sitting next to this guy? This is crazy. It's brought me to people like that. But I've admired what you're saying and I've looked in those worlds and I'm still trying. That's why when we were fighting, right, I don't have anywhere near those skills. But what I was trying to understand was I

wanted to learn from him. You get to learn from the best. It's comical that this was yours. I mean, I mean it is. It is. It's literally y and Yang, isn't it? No, it is. You're a great man, Jake. You're a great lad, serious, for real. That make me feel like a bad guy you do a little bit. It's good though, it just works, doesn't it? It does. No, it's a beautiful.

It works, it works. It's a beautiful pairing. And he'll decide it and he'll come up with it, but it fucking works. I watched the movie two nights ago and I text him and I'm like, dude, hats fucking off. Any real human that stands across from Conor McGregor and I believe for half a second he might win,

it's almost impossible. I don't know why he let them cast him. If I were him, I'd be like, no. I literally don't. I got the call, I got the call. I remember where I was, because I knew they were chasing him for a long time And there was a part of me that was like, oh my god, that'd be amazing and I was like, oh my god

I don't want that Then I get the call everyone was so excited and it was like they accepted the offer you bought the best house and I was like Absolute fucking buyer's remorse Let's just say it's like you're playing a snowboarder in a movie and your competition, Sean White, is in the movie. And you're like, really? No one's gonna buy this.

You want them to face replace you on Sean White. But to be up against it, I mean, there was this moment though, like when we did meet up for the first time, he had really tried to stay in this space of who the character was. He's in this wild nature, like in that space that you see when he first enters. And so he was like that.

As another actor, I could understand what he wanted to get in that space. He's like, I'm in it, I'm fucking Knox. And he's in the corner, he's like, I'm ready to take you out. You know? Definitely wanted a little friend. I was trying to figure out whether this was a character.

Yeah, but then I was like, wait, wait. So you, yeah, but like I talk all the time about, okay, so we try and get into the space. Cause I think the octagon is a sacred space. And I think that in front of the camera is a sacred space too. When you're in there, you go, okay, you talked a game. Now he's in your space. And now he's about to present this thing to you.

He's been working on a character. And what are you going to do, cower? In your head, you have to go like, I'll act fucking circles around you, bitch. Let's go. You got to die on your own confidence. In my head, I went, I've spent 30 circles around you, bitch. Let's go. You got to die under your own confidence. In my head, I went, I've spent 30 years doing this. Yes, let's party.

You've spent 30 years doing this. Let's party. They're two different. But that's the look that we have of each other. But that's perfect for this movie. It's so much bigger than a microcosm of what's happening in the actual movie. To go back to the way Jake was raised, enviably, his mom's

an artist, his dad's an artist. He's free without any fear of being emasculated So go back to the way Jake was raised enviably. His mom's an artist, his dad's an artist. He's free without any fear of being emasculated by pursuing that inside of him that's beautiful. So I started there and I've been trying to let go of all the shit. Trauma like from years past. Walking into a room and going like,

what guy is, okay, I gotta keep my eyes on him. Always prepared, like you were saying, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. When's this shit gonna hit the fan? What's my plan? Everywhere I go. And trying to accept that my life has gotten good, I'm 49, I ain't hanging out with Milford Cinema.

I don't really have to have that anymore. And I've been watching you. I'm so fascinated by you. You're such a fascinating human being on planet Earth. And I know, dude, I was broke as shit. You got the fucking money, you got the cars, you, I was broke as shit. You got the fucking money. You got the cars. You drove like a knucklehead.

You got the boat. You got it all. I know we had the fantasy. I know we had the fantasy. I'm gonna get this shit and I'm gonna feel this way. And then you get this shit and you're like, why don't I fucking feel that? Did you have that experience?

It goes back to then, the love of what you're doing and what vehicle you used to get you there. I use my love of martial arts and being in great shape and being physically ready to compete against another well-trained individual. Once you acquire all of these things, you kind of just revert back to what you are then. You know, I wake up, I like to get my training in,

I like to get my good food in, I'm sharp then in the mind, I'm fresh then. I go about my business throughout the day, I go back in then later in the evening, get another training session in. It's the same as what I was doing anyway, it's around nicer surroundings but it's the same thing. That's why I always say understand right now young athletes or young aspiring actors, what you're doing right now this second, you might not have a pot to piss in, you might have

no money, you might have really bad surroundings but what you're doing right now is what you will be doing when you achieve it. So carry yourself as if you have achieved it because you have, you might have no money, you might have really bad surroundings. But what you're doing right now is what you will be doing when you achieve it. So carry yourself as if you have achieved it because you have. You're living the dream. That kind of took the edge off from me as well. I imagine you have to ask yourself, I know what got me here. You look back, we know. Is that what will keep me here? Yeah, yeah, it's a different time. Who do I want to be for the next chapter? I think that's an interesting question for you.

I've wrestled with it. I'm probably just an addict to the fight game. I'm addicted to the fight game. I just wanna get in and I wanna test myself. There's more in me. This is gonna be the hardest question I ask. Was there a sweet boy though, that was 12, who that girl liked, who you had to kind of fucking put away

and start on this other path, that maybe as you're a father and you think of your next chapter of your life, do you want to let that little boy out that was sweet? Maybe, maybe, maybe. Not that you're not sweet. It's not like I'm angry or not. No, no, no. I'm not saying you're a monster.

It's not like I'm not angry. I don't want to hurt nobody. It's such a beautiful business. When you make that walk and you step your bare feet on the canvas, it's freedom for a person like me. Then you're challenging yourself and then the lights, the action, the crowd. I'm not saying fighting couldn't be a part of that. You could still fight and then fucking in therapy they call it, not incorporating, what do they call it when you integrate?

You like integrate the little boy that had to go away at 12. I'd love a bit of that. And then you're a model of dudes like, oh no, I'll still knock motherfuckers out and I'll tell you I'm scared alive. And I'm scared of my wife being mad. That's interesting. Yeah, you know what? Now that you say that, my children, my son, Connor Jr., my firstborn son really brought that back out to me. And I look at him with no trauma or no life experience.

It's me as a young boy, blank canvas. I used to be. And then I start blaming people. Not blaming people, I'm saying, you motherfucker's hardened me or changed me a bit. You know what I mean? But see the way you're saying you're dealing with life's trauma. I have that as well. We all have our trauma that we're dealing with. I got into this stage in life of trying to think of why the person done that to me

or why they were that way to me and then trying to understand from their standpoint, you know, maybe you have compassion for them and I felt empathy and that was it then. Yeah, the dudes who were fucking with me, their dads were kicking their ass. Exactly, or even my own father had a lot going on through his life. It caused him to be a certain way. I always just tried to understand that then. As I got older, I said the things he went through made him in this way. You know, it just made me a lot more forgiving, a lot more acceptable.

Not that anything bad with my father. It wasn't great. My father was an angry man at times. Angry at his situation. Now I look at him, oh, he came back for my people. And now he's a little happy, sat walking around with the money in the pocket. No, you know what I'm saying? But I tried to see it from other people's,

why are they like that? How people are with you is more a reflection of them than it is of you. So if you kind of understand it, it brings you to ease, brings you peace. But the fatherhood, for me, this has been the most illuminating for who I am. I have two girls.

So I haven't had to decide if I'm gonna tell them, listen man, whoever hits first generally wins. You get some shit, you swing. If I had a son, I gotta decide what I'm gonna pass on, right? I have a girl and it's already come up, or someone's talking mean to her, and how am I gonna tell her? And I'm at this crossroads where it's like,

do I want this little person to have to go down the same road as me? Or do I want this little person to have to go down the same road as me? I know. Or do I want to go, no, no, that's actually not the world they're in. That's not me protecting them by giving him this skillset. I just imagine you with a boy have to be deciding, do I teach him how to be me, or do I trust that the world's beautiful enough

that he doesn't need it? Yeah. Because it comes with a price. I have them in class, I deal my own training with them. Life has to show itself at some point, you know? We can't all just... But do you wrestle with it, I guess? Yeah, no, I do wrestle with it too as well.

She trains with Cecilina Gracie, one of the Gracie daughters. Jiu-jitsu is a really great martial art, especially for women, for anyone. You know, you get a Jiu-jitsu lady wrap you up in a bow and you're in the ring. There's no danger. Yeah, they're doing crazy stuff. There's no danger.

So we've got some more champions in our gym, some female world champions, but we train martial arts. Pray's no danger. So we've got some more champions in our gym, some female world champions. We'll train martial arts. Train, nothing happens, it's all peace and flowers and love and happiness. Hope for the best, but prepare for, you know... Yeah, this is tricky. Conor, my old 26, is very artistic. I could see acting school or some sort of school of performing arts.

I'd love to see my child, him and my daughter, Cria, do Irish dancing. So I used to do Irish dancing in my school, but these are real competitors that do this, they're world champions in Irish dancing. You ever seen Irish dancing? You know like Riverdance? Of course. Riverdance is so cool. But in my head I'm saying that's going to be great for his fighting.

He's going to be a life machine. He's going to be able to kill fries and be very flexible. But he doesn't want to fight. He said it to me many times, I don't like training, I don't want to fight. I said, Sean you don't have to. But trust me there will come a time if you have it in the back pocket you're going to have to be confident. But'll have to river dance. That's what I would tell them. I would tell them there will come a time where you'll have

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Okay, first of all the movie's fucking rad. He's watched it, yeah? Yeah, yeah, I watched it two days ago. Yeah, yeah, and then I'll be tonight at the premiere and I'm moderating your panel. Well, I've not heard from many people, only one or two that have watched it outside of the cast. But I'm biased because one of my very favorite movies of all time is the original. I'm interested to hear your thoughts then because I was aware of that, you know, I knew there's people out there with a magnifying glass that would be very critical of it. I think of all time is the original. I'm interested to hear you talk to them because I was aware of that. I knew there's people out with a magnifying glass

that would be very critical of it. I think they're gonna be happy. I don't think there'll be no issue with it. I think people will be actually delighted. Oh, absolutely. And it's another addition to the Roadhouse family and it's an honor. I have a question for you actually.

Going in, you know people in it, you have ties and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. When we talked last year. I was interviewing him and he just randomly goes, yeah, I was in a scene with Conor McGregor. And I go, what the fuck were you in a scene with Conor McGregor for? And he goes, oh, we're redoing Roadhouse.

He was like, why the fuck are we talking right now? He literally was like, why am I talking right now? Why isn't Conor here? Well, also just like, you're remaking one of my favorite movies of all time and I fucking know it inside and out. What should I think about it with the new one and the old? I just wanted to ask you because as a fan,

it's very important to me because you are a true fan of the OG, OG Roadhouse. I just wanted to ask you because as a fan it's very important to me because you are a true fan of the OG Roadhouse. We've been in the middle of this conversation about oh, what's it like to redo? And I'm like, well we didn't redo it, we reimagined it as everyone's saying. But then there's also mirrors of things that happen in it.

Listen, let's just get to the spirit of it. We're gonna tell a story that's the solution to everything is knocking someone out. It's so classic. What's the beat on end of the line? Everyone's hot, the stakes of it are like, I don't know, this person wants to build a... Okay, that's not the priority.

Let's start breaking glass at the bar. Let's get some good music in. Let's get some fucking motorcycles and let's swing and make out with chicks. I mean, the spirit of it is... He didn't really do that though. He did a little bit of a thing. There's a bit of woke vibe still going on where they,

it could have been a little bit more. I would have thought. Yeah, but I said, but we understand the times where he in. I thought that myself as well. There could have been a bit more. That me picking up the chick down the dance, that whole scene was on the floor.

Once they cast Connor, we started to lose time. It was just, you know what I mean? It was just. But when we started talking about it 11 months ago, I was saying of the many things I liked about it, Patrick Swayze was at peak powers. What a man. He was so awesome. He was a gymn Swayze was at peak powers. He was so awesome. He was a gymnast, he was a firefighter,

he was an outsider, yes. He was a dancer. He was a football player, and what took him out of being a professional football player, or he played in college, is he destroyed his knee, and in dirty dancing, he has to jump off the stage, and if you watch the doc about it, he went over and over, and every time he landed,

just collapsed, like in so much fucking pain. This is what I love about you. Not only are you obsessed with Roadhouse, but you also love Dirty Dancing. Cause of Swayze. He likes Ducky Melo. That's the real thing, that's right, yeah, okay. Have you seen Outsiders?

Swayze for me, number one. Oh, are you kidding me? No, we haven't seen it. It's a gang movie, Francis Ford Coppola, it launched everybody. It launched Amelia West It launched every actor. Tom Cruise. I love when that happens. You get up there, you can go watch them.

So he was the king when I was a kid. Swayze was everything. So, okay, he makes all the decisions in the movies he's making at that time. He makes Roadhouse and he gets out of bed naked. We watch him walk all the way over to the dresser and we're just seeing his ass cheeks. This is Swayze? Oh, this is me?

No, no, Swayze, but you too. Swayze. I don't even know thatze, but you too, yeah. Swayze. Swayze? I don't even know that you know that that was a nod to that. Was it? No. The most memorable thing is-

Yeah, I wouldn't do it, so they asked you to do it. Is that serious? No. You look at your arse now. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I always thought it was something to do with Arnold Schwarzenegger. I've been telling people that Schwarzenegger came in that way. Terminator. Well, that's what I was telling them. I said, look, I already done it. I tell you, the people are going to be shocked at that.

Because now and now is really that that's going to be a bonehead. So not only is he nude and he walks to the thing and he's in a medium shot, then they put a different lens on. Close up of his ass. And then he squeezes it. Yes, he does. It's in the movie. And that was like a 12 year old going like, do I like this? of his ass and then he squeezes it. Yes he does. It's in the movie.

Yes he does. And that was like a 12 year old going like, do I like this? But what's he doing? That's interesting. Why is this happening? I think I like it. So I said to Jay, when we talked about the movie

11 months ago, my first question was, are we gonna see your ass cheeks clenched? And he said, no. No, no, no. If we didn't know, if we didn't know where they clenched them, you're okay. No, no, no. If we didn't know, if we didn't know we'd have clenched them, you okay? You do, and the first walk away you do, no on the first walk away, just your basic walking stance.

It's basically clenched. Bridge freeze, I'm rocking down the fucking thing. I'm gonna argue that you actually topped it. Okay, so I'm going into the movie hoping we're gonna see something that nods to this and then we meet Connor jumping out of a window. He's clearly with someone else's woman. He's bare naked.

Ding, ding, ding, back to the beginning of your history. It's a through line of his life in artistic work. Look at that. You've really hit on something. So not only did we get the butt cheeks, but Connor, well fucking done. There'll be a 12 year old that's having the same experience I had when I was 12.

I'm sorry, it wasn't me. But you didn't clench, or you just are always clenched? No, I didn't, no, I didn't. He was doing his. It's a classic Conor McGregor walk. I was just gonna say. He does his walk. It wasn't even, I just.

It was. You can't be a champion without good glutes. That is true, yeah, you gotta be strong. It's the center of your being. Well, I'll tell you how, okay, now this is for you, Jake. So I have once gotten in the shape you got just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo.

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I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo.

I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo. I'm just a weirdo first time anyone's ever said that. A buffet of mussels is fantastic. That should be the like colon, roadhouse colon buffet of mussels. I think that's good.

All you can eat. Just me and Connor eating mussels. All you can eat. All you can eat buffet of mussels. Is there no camera? No. No, it's just audio. We're all audio, baby.

Yeah. We want people to be comfortable, not worried about how they look. We edit it too, so there's no like. This show is fantastic. Is it? I'm not watching. You're on a fantastic show.

There's a lot of noise out there, isn't there? Yeah, we got the one. There's taxi drivers back there. There's so many of them. They're champs. They're champs. You know what I mean? There's just so many of them. Taxi drivers.

Okay, back to your body. Yeah. So, I know what you went through, and I'm gonna say, because I did this for chips, right? And I had a butt shot in it, but once I cut to get ripped, my ass cheeks disappeared. Now here's the difference between an actor and a champion.

Somehow he was cut like that, and then his fucking ass cheeks were banging. That's the difference, right? You would have been bummed with your buns at that weight. Well, I stay pretty consistently in shape all the time, mental and physical health. That's important for me. I always stay, as we say,

when I train about two to three weeks out. I like staying in that space. And if I have to do something more extreme for something, then I'll do that and then I'll change. Would you say though this was peak of your career? Yes, absolutely. We had a team, we had somebody cooking for me, the right calories, everything.

We trained an hour and a half before work. But the truth is, on this movie, I had to stay in this weird space where you looked aesthetically in the right place, but you also had to function. That first headbutt we did, for instance, we did that 30, 40 times. We did some of these fights like... Double leg him, turn around, face come out and throw him over the bar. The work was hard.

Yeah. I was taking back at how hard the fucking work was. That surprised me when you were like, I come from a tough game. Jake has 16 projects on the go right now in motion. He cannot understand how he can have that much work on. He's like, oh, when I fight, I fight for 30 minutes. I got trained and I fight for 30 minutes. He's like, we have to do this 100 times.

13, 14 hours, four days in a row to get one sequence. But yeah, you're right. The difference between obviously a professional athlete and me is that your glutes have to be ready to go all the time. And now I knew my ass was going to be on the show. I put a couple more plates on the squat like, yeah. Yeah, now I'm searching YouTube for beauty blast workouts.

Ah! So my G model. This is your sweet spot though. We talked about this last time you were here. You love a regimen. I do love a regimen. And in fact, weren't we saying like maybe that's something you were trying to sort of taper back a little bit?

Well, we talked, I had already made this movie. So yeah, so but like he was recovering from this movie. Yeah. But at the same time, too, you get to an age and you're like, I love what I've learned from my body. I loved what it shows you and teaches you. Sometimes I'll be on a run and I'll be like, man, I don't know how long I'll be able to do this. I am grateful for this. Are you 43? 43. 43. Yeah. You start realizing, well, if I don't do this now this now I'm probably not gonna be able to do it in five years or not I'm able to do it in six years your brain shifts somehow

Your mortality becomes a reality for real and so to me I was like this is an amazing opportunity You know at a certain point I thought this is fun. I have a team of people I know we kind of gathered all together and I've never done that before every other movie I've done I've eaten whatever I need to eat myself. Yeah, I have had a trainer I've trained and I thought there's an opportunity here to let's go full Marvel Full-force Connor your physique how much of it is just from having done the sport you've done and how much do you actually lift and train? But I did no martial arts training. I just kind of benched at the martial arts I put it to the side and I was just lifting you were I had the leg injury, so I was lifting a lot. Let me tell Monica, his last fight,

his tibia got snapped in half and it was visible in the fight. It was one of the grossest. Yes, a tofu injury, it's probably the toughest in the game. Oh my God. I was just lifting heavy anyway and then the call came and then I just lifted that extra bit heavier and then I just tidied up the diet and voila, rocked in. So chest and fucking chest.

I was just lifting heavy anyway and then the call came and then I just lifted that extra bit heavier And then I just tidied up the diet and voila rocked in Chest and fucking tracks. Yes. What weight were you in then? Every fighter will tell you this I have a mad relationship with the scale from putting weight 145 155 170 after the fight I just tell Monica real quick He's the only guy in UFC history that was holding two different belts at two different weight classes. So he's fighting at one weight one month and then six months later, he's fighting a completely different way. And so he'll have to cut 15 fucking pounds. 20 even.

Like sometimes even within a day. A day? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a nice portion of the game. It should be monitored a bit better. Because they have to hit the way that weigh in. 145, right? And then he'll start drinking water

and come fight night just two days later, he might be 15 pounds heavier. 20 even, and not even two days later. Those injuries come from some of that. We all have a relationship with the scale. He was in the Beverly Hills Hotel, because that's where we had a villain after the surgery, because I had the surgery in Los Angeles.

So I'm in an electric wheelchair, wheeling myself to the Beverly Hills gym, down to the Beverly Hills Hotel gym, and just getting onto a bench and lifting. That was all I was doing. My favorite thing is he's like I wasn't in shape for this movie I just lifted. There's a moment where I try and choke him out and I'm on his back and he runs backwards and slams me into the back of the wall and then throws me on a table. I don't know what the fuck he's like when he's actually in shape. That was insane.

What's it been that time? I'm usually around 190, 200, something like that. Maybe 100, 150. Yeah. I don't know what weight I was on, that's the truth. I decided, oh yeah, I'm not even looking at a fucking scales again. And I haven't, since that time I stepped on weight to make that weight for that last fight, I have not touched a scales once.

Do you want to though? Do you not get curious? I don't care. I called and said the fight is going to be at 185 pounds against Chandler. Oh. It could be 170. Where do you sit? Where do you sit?

Normally, like right now you think. I don't know. I haven't checked. Rob, get the scale up. I'd say I'll give a take. I feel like I'm coming back down because I'm doing more cardio basketball. I think you're coming back down, yeah. I'm definitely coming back down.

I'm doing more martial arts work. In fact, I haven't been lifting at all really. I'm doing more martial arts work, getting the kicks snappy, getting the balance work ready. You know, I know what's ahead of me. So the body's getting naturally trimmer. I'm probably about 180 maybe I'd say. Give or take. But we have a fact check on this show.

So we'll need you to go weigh yourself and send us in. I'll do it for you. I'll do it for you, send us in. Okay. It's coming soon. I'm going to wait until the Patty's festivities happen and then I'll... But who knew that Michael Chandler in the promo video

for the UFC fight that I did that's also in the movie Chandler came to the DR to be my opponent that I knocked out Yeah, yeah, you were there. I had no idea and forgive my ignorance. Are you fighting him? Well, I mean, that's what I say you're coming back right to the UFC. Yeah Yeah, two fights after my UFC contract. I'm in a lovely position. I'd love to renegotiate with the UFC. I'd love to figure something out. I'm the highest paid UFC fighter of all time, but even despite that, I'm the most underpaid UFC fighter.

Well, when you fought Mayweather, you made a hundred and some million. That was separate. I'm just saying, when you compare. The figures I bring in, I'm the most underpaid fighter in history. So it's fine, I'm rich as shit. I've made hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars.

I have businesses trending towards millionaire status, but what happens now? I have two fights left in the UFC I go to the finish become a free agent and McGregor promotions habits then I can pick who I can fight They can pick where do you like looking at young fighters and you like thinking about that like what to fight them No, no to manage them are great. Oh for sure. I have a management agency also part of our sports We manage some great fighters. we have champions on the roster also one of our guys is making his UFC debut tomorrow night Michael Venom page a sponsor athletes by sponsor the way you did do that when we were working he'd look at myself He'd be like no right just like that way and then come back and then you're gonna grab me take me just hire Connor you can say that you would want to promote you can say it

He's a little bit more venomous. Connor, you can say that you would want to promote me. You can say it. You can say it on the show. I think maybe both of us should be on your shows. Yeah, both of us should be on Paradigm. I feel like, right? Yeah. We could do that for sure.

Man, there's big businesses. I'm just gonna like river dance and then you can. I'm making so much money you can swim in it. Yeah. I just wanna dance in it. I'll tell you what, I will make you fucking as much if not more than you make for a movie. And it's only 30 minutes, it ain't fucking 10 months.

What is that? Oh, you mean in the ring. He's saying in the ring. In the ring, if he wants to get in the ring, I could make him fucking more money than he makes making a movie. I know, I watch the money that Jake Paul and these Paul brothers have generated,

and I'm like, I'd fight Zach Brad. Yeah, but that's not the ghost that's not selling now. I think you should start a whole series that is just actors fighting, and I want to be your fighter. I don't, so's not selling now. I think you should start a whole series that is just actors fighting, and I want to be your fighter. I don't, so. Yeah, well. But again, like I said, I will dance,

I'll river dance, and I'll do other things. You're dying to fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. I'm a part of this thing called Train Alta. It's essentially regular people who have regular jobs, and they dedicate, I think it's six months you have to do of their life to training for a fight, and then they fight in a show and train at the show. And it is hugely successful. It's growing at a rapid rate.

We're going to the New York Stock Exchange shortly to announce it to the public market. And what it does also is it's boosted martial arts gyms around the world because they're taking on the program. People are signing up regular people and they're getting loads of new members. Loads of people are like yourself, who might wanna test themselves. You could do that, you're trained, and you learn together, and then you match, and then you fight.

Don't you wanna know if Monica's ever fought? I wanna know if you've ever fought. Oh, that's a good question, nope. No, never, I'm not one. Have you ever wanted to? Well, actually, that's not fair. I fight all the time with my words. Oh, yeah, she fights me.

I don't have a great record against her, verbally. I'm pretty good with, I won't finish that sentence, but yeah, so I've never fought physically and I have a zero desire. Yeah, it's mad for me. So when you watch movies like, when you watch a movie like this. I don't mind seeing it.

When Dax talks about fighting all the time in his fight stories, I definitely don't. She hates them. She finds it unattractive. I don't find it hot, I will say that. No, really, yeah. Yeah, a professional sense is such a different thing, but like a bar fight doesn't do much for me. They're not good. They're 100%.

It's just like, why guys? You want to go out and enjoy yourself. You want to get deeper psychological. There's a real reason. So back when I was a drunk and I fought all the time at bars, there were girls that liked that. But those were girls like me who grew up in an environment that was scary and they want someone that's gonna protect them because they got knocked around by dad or they got knocked around by an uncle what's sad is you attract other people that are also hurt totally yeah it's not like my wife who's not maladjusted or grew up in a lot of

violence I beat a guy up on the sidewalk one day when we were driving to an event and she fucking hated it I'm like that dude threw a fucking glass at our window, we could've hurt you. And she's like, no, we were fine, you didn't need to do that, that was terrible. Yeah, it's a great way to be, it's not nice. I'm a happy drunk, by the way. We don't fight a lot, to be honest.

The only way I will ever really fight in a bar or in an open space if there's a threat right on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I've gone, the mind is gone, anything can happen then. But also, I wanna say, there's also a reason I would never fight, because everyone had their own scary environments.

I didn't have any physical fear growing up, but I had a lot of like, I have to be accepted. So I was not ever going to be in a situation to fight, because I would do anything to be liked. I'm not going to be the person to fight. You can find safety in many ways. Exactly, and for me, safety was being liked by most people as possible. So fighting was not on the radar.

Outside of the fight, to me, I love the physical part of the training, the training for it mentally also, and even sparring. It takes you to a different level, because it does something in your nervous system, in your mind, in your body. All of it together is working. So outside of the fight itself, the training, I love it.

It pushes you to a place. It fortifies you in other areas of your life. It gives you the opportunity to see how far you can push your mind and your body and fight training is really the only space where you can do that in that particular way. It would be easy for you to get addicted to it. If you got a competition under your belt and you felt that experience in that rush,

there's no adrenaline rush like it. Oh my God, you're gonna join UFC. Yeah. Yeah, right. My explanation of fighting is, I have never lost a fight because I've only been fighting the fear in myself. So if I can not be afraid, I can't lose.

I can get beat up. That's the truth for me. So everyone gets to decide, and it's great for everyone to make their own decision. But for me, the only thing I'm fighting is fear. So I can't lose. I've had my nose broken. It's crooked. I got missing. I always say once you make that walk, you're a winner once you make that walk. Yes, because I only have to defeat the voice in my head that's afraid. No, guys, guys, guys, guys. Nobody ever wins a fight.

That's a phrase. No guys, guys, guys, guys, nobody ever wins a fight. Yes, all the time. That's a good line, callback. I've just been trying to get it in there. Just every fucking second I've been trying, you're like, you won't even let me. That's all I wanted to say. That's a pro. That was the best line in the movie. That's 70 press junkets. That's what a pro does.

When you throw that left hook, that's your thing. What he just did is his left hook. That's right. Okay, I do want to talk about the fight sequences are so fucking radical. Doug Lyman, I wish he was here. What an incredible job. He is coming, he's coming.

Oh, he got over it. Well, I mean, I don't know. I hope he's got over it. I mean, it's just gonna be a huge success. We want him here. We all deserve to be here. He did an incredible job. And he told me, I found it hard to believe

he hadn't even seen the original movie. But regardless, there's so much physical fighting and reenacting of fighting Did you get hurt a bunch and also was it hard for you to snap into movie version? I was definitely acting and playing a role for sure And as far as I did I get hurt was as tough as I've ever fucking experienced me and Jake were fighting on a little Dingy in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, and I have this fucking anchor Yeah, and I swing the anchor and ended both veers I get thrown off but not only that when I land in the middle of the ocean, yeah? And I have this fucking anchor. And I swing the anchor and then the boat veers, I get thrown off.

But not only that, when I land in the water, the camera was there, so I took, ugh. There's a thing online, it's a white Siberian tiger jumping into the sea or into a pool or something to grab a bit of meat. You ever see that? There's a picture. On Instagram, yeah.

I wanted to get that like, ugh, when I got in the water. But that wasn't the finish of it. The boat was going, it's a speedboat and it's going fucking, hum! And it's tearing the fucking shoulder down me. I was like, what the heck? Should that wasn't the finish of it. The boat was going, it's a speed boat and it's going fucking, you know what I'm just tearing the fucking shoulder down me. I was like, what do I do? I had shoulder surgery on the right shoulder about eight months ago.

That really extenuated it, because I was tearing the fucking shoulder down me socket. It's a damn tough bitch. Especially a movie like that. Now I'd imagine you're sitting on a rom-com type of thing. They're probably handy, I don't know, you'd know, Jake. But that one was fucking handy. Sometimes in those scenes, we're fighting on the floor,

fighting around tables, we're fighting around glass, even if it's breakaway glass. You know, the car goes through the... You drive the truck into the... Into the, because not everyone. Into the bar, into the roadhouse. Into the roadhouse. Ding, ding, ding. I have to jump over the bar as the car crashes,

but Doug wanted to do it in a very particular way because he didn't want it to look the way it usually looks. So I go over the bar, the CGI that truck coming in, but we had to do the whole thing, the doors opening and all that shit. And so then I get up, I'm supposed to have sort of been a little bit out of it. I put my hand on the bar.

It was glass. Fucking straight glass. Oh no. But the take I knew was good, because we were cutting right before and they didn't cut. So I was like around the corner, I was like, fuck, we're not doing it again.

I felt the glass go into my hand. So that's the part where I slammed the door on his leg. It's just over and over again. So I have to just finish that off so we can get to that point. I remember the feeling when that's a lot of glass. And I just finished the fucking take and I just finished the thing and got to the thing.

Stuff like that all the time. I mean, staff, from grappling and all that, you get those types of injuries. Did you get an infection? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The mats have to be clean. I thought it came from, remember that scene where you come with a piece of wood?

Oh, you only got it after, did you? I kept grabbing, I was on the ground, grabbing you as you, you were at me, and I grabbed your arm, and I thought, oh, maybe I injured, but my whole arm's still there, it ended up being staff. Oh, wow. You gotta watch with that staff.

There were things like that that happened all the time, but gratefully, I was really, really trying to take care of everything that we did and my body while we're doing it. I didn't sustain any major injuries. You didn't break anything. Which is a testament to the team I was working with. Yeah, who's the crew of Stunt Dudes? Garrett Warren. Garrett Warren.

Garrett Warren, this guy's Steve Brown. This guy's Steve Brown. We're a very, very good team. Steve Brown's our fight coordinator. Has he been with Lyman forever? No, no. Garrett and Steve. This was Avatar. There's fight scenes in Avatar, is there?

Yeah, there are. But they do a lot of water work too. So actually that was fun. I thought it was like a cartoon. Their fight scene. But actually they designed this like four pass system that we did for the movie. Gareth designed this thing where basically you do the Hollywood

pass of the fight in a take, right? So you do the angles for the camera and then you do the next pass of the fight in a take, right? So you do the angles for the camera and then you do the next pass where there's a pad. So if the pad then replaces Connor, so then I hit the pad. You can punch for real. For real, so you see the impact on my body. Then it switches and then it's the punches hitting Connor.

So then we take the pad and hit Connor with the pad. So his body responds. Then we do the last pass, which is a slow motion pass, which is like when you're kids and you're play fighting. And you actually hit. And we both go, brrr. So good. I've never seen that in a movie.

I've never seen the connection like that in a movie. So when a force to that, which is big. I was trying to explain that four pass thing in an interview that you were just doing way better. I have a video of Chandler that we did because we were testing it out. And I'm just hammer fisting him. It's in video of Chandler that we did because we were testing it out and I'm just hammer-fisting him. It's in the corner of the octagon for just a clip.

And it's really funny working with real fighters because like with him, you asked before and I think it's really interesting. He didn't know how to fake fight. Right. You get to learn how to fake fight. And the same thing with Chandler. I'm fake hitting Chandler and he's resisting as you would.

Right. He's keeping his neck stiff enough so that he don't knock him out. And we're like, you need to play like you're getting hit. And so to unlearn that for a fighter is like telling you to go against all your instincts. I'll say something and people can look out for it in the movie in a scene where you jump on the back

and you're hand is choked and I smack you on the table and I'm trying to get over it, right? You're actually choking me, right? No shit, you told me. His foot, you know you put your hooks in, you're trying to put your hooks in so you have full control of the person. I was trying to turn into you as I was getting choked and the hook was there stuck so I couldn't, I was like this.

I had to let go, get the hook out and then turn. That's as real as it gets, yes. He told me to do it like that. So he was like, you want to really get me? Just do it like this and wrap your legs around me. And I was like, okay, sure. And then I do it and he's like, what the fuck are you doing?

He was escaping, yeah. If I were you, I'd be living the whole time in fear of like, when am I going to accidentally trigger his real response? Because something happens at some point. It's not an emotional response, it's a fighter's response. And so to me, that's the thing that I had to understand. And there were a number of times I remember I had to say to you before we start the scene,

I'd be like, remember, you don't have to actually hit me. And he would say, he would literally go, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I remember. And because- For the reminder. Yeah, because I think in those moments, the instinct comes in.

Remember that first thing we did? We did four, five combination. And then you come off camera and then you roundhouse me. Right? And I'm supposed to block you. But early on, he was so psyched to do the scene. It was like his first day shooting me.

He just came running off camera and just roundhouse kicked me every time. I remember I said to you- That was my fear for you when I was watching. Like, does he know how to pull? But this is the thing with him on set. He was so great. I turned to you and I said, you know we're not on camera.

And he was like so in the character. Yeah, because I didn't really know where the camera is, where at that time? Yeah, it's hard to know. It was actually my very first take that I done, I was in the water. You weren't there at this time. I came up out of the sea after the boat crash,

I had to swim to the fucking ladder. It was a wide shot or a long shot, I don't know what way he's calling the energy, but it was nowhere near me. Yeah, you didn't need to do any of this. So I'm under the water, like, myself drowning. I'm saying I'm coming out of this water like a torpedo. And I go, I just want that full body.

I'm thinking this is gonna look so great on the movie. And I'm doing like 10 takes. I came out of the water like a fucking torpedo. And then, okay guys, now we're switching cameras. And I was like, wait, what? And then the camera was over here. I didn we're switching cameras. And I was like, wait what? And the camera was over here, and I didn't even see it, and I was absolutely exhausted.

It's such. But it was actually time to do it, I was like, oh fuck. That was awesome. It's like, oh, it follows. But it was a good lesson. It's a hard lesson to learn. It's a hard lesson.

I was a bit of training as well. It's kind of like, when does Siegfried and Roy's tiger decide to bite? It's like that, right? Where it's like trained and it's fine, and then all of a sudden they're a tiger, really. They're like, you catch him on accident on the button, and all of a sudden there's a real snack.

Only once, and by mistake, we looked at the shot, and he was like, oh, there's this, and I could throw that right a little bit tighter, and if I throw that right a little bit tighter, and then you popped me, and you went, oh! I didn't mean to, you took it away. That's minimal, though, for that much fighting in a movie. What I realized is really we were at different ends

of the spectrum in that sense, and that the pacing of yourself in shots, understanding where the camera is, all the techniques of making a movie. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Exactly, all that stuff that any professional athlete would tell anybody who's just an amateur in the same game, he would do the opposite when we were in fights.

When we were in fights, it was always that, you don't have to do that because you bring this leg up and you do it like that. And then he'll look back and he'll say, that left was a little weak. Maybe that straight knee is a bit strong. A little torque of the body, a little bit of torso work, a little hip. Jake knows how to throw a backhand, knows how to throw a jab. The work he would have done with self-partners, regular training.

But as I went on in a flurry of combinations, one of them might have been a little bit off. I doled a few little things and just made it come across way more venomous, way more realistic. We had a great balance together and a great chemistry and the show's in the movie. So listen, when a professional athlete joins a movie, it's happened a bunch of times, we have a lot of examples of it,

you're always like, how's this gonna go? And I wanna tell you, you're fantastic. Thank you so much. You're so good. Thank you, appreciate that. If you wanna do it more and more, you will do it more and more. You're really. Thank you so much. You're so good. Thank you, appreciate that. If you wanna do it more and more, you will do it more and more. You're really, really confident and you're not self-conscious

and you're entertaining as hell. I mean the movie goes like this, doesn't it? Skylanders. It comes in and you go. How is it fitting into, and I wonder how calculated the overall thing. So it's like you've got beer, you've got the whiskey, you've got nightclubs, you've got fighting,

you've got clothes, acting. How does this play into the overall thing? I'm a creator. I create and entertain. And so this would lend itself well to it. And, you know, let's see how it goes. It's a huge pay decrease for you to spend your time. Yeah, well, it's not that. You love movies.

I love movies. I enjoy the process. I'm enjoying this process. Who knows? What I will say is, with confidence, my life is so far removed from regular life. You know, as you said, it's like being an animal in the zoo. I feel like I'm so far detached as it is. I could play any role and that helps me. So let's see. Okay.

So you reminded me of the first movie I ever did was Without a Paddle and I didn't know anything. I didn't know how cameras work. I didn't know I was supposed to stand on the same spot or that they did a wide and then we had to do it again. I didn't know anything. I didn't know how cameras work, I didn't know I was supposed to stand on the same spot or that they did a wide and then we had to do it again. I didn't know anything. And I was like, you know, I'm trying to be the best editor. And Burt Reynolds was in the movie, thank God.

And he pulled me aside a couple of times. He's like, I know you want to do this stunt. They're not going to see you. You're going to break your arm. I broke my back in this movie. No one could see me. You know, he was like helping me along. But then he also told me this great fucking story.

He was friends with Rocky Marciano. They were bros. And he said one time they were sitting at a bar and they were hammered Rocky is seated and Burt gets up to go to the bathroom and he looks at Rocky and he thinks I think if I just swung right now while he's sitting He said as he was thinking it Rocky turned turned and he said, Bert, don't do this. And he goes, you know what I was thinking? He goes, everyone around me will have that thought. Don't think that.

And it made me think of you and I was like, do you have this sense that guys are just like, shit, is this the moment I can truly live with that little bit? Eh, fuck it, you know, I'm just left on my own. But do you experience that at all? Whether you're a fighter or not, alcohol can make people like that, you know? So it doesn't necessarily mean it's because I'm a fighter, you know, people want to take a shot. That's the way people are.

But here's the irony. The irony is you get good at this so you can feel safe. You want everyone to know, like, move to someone else. There's an easier target. It's almost to get left alone. So it kind of backfired a bit now, because I would never get left alone. I do have that at times, yeah. And I've done this so people would leave me the fuck alone.

Now I can't fucking go anywhere. The irony of, you know what, I'm going to make it so clear that you're better off fucking with another person. And then yet that in itself makes these random people feel like, well, I'd be a legend for life if I could knock this stranger out. You kind of invite more. Who would want to do that with you? A million dudes I know from Michigan. They would risk their life to have a story where they hooked him up. They would risk their life for it. They are risking their life for it.

Yes, especially because they rock around with motherfuckers. I'm not playing over in the United States of America. I rocked around with the lugs to the shop. Don't give a fuck. Don't mess in this country. You know what I mean? So that's it. In Ireland, probably not far off either. ["Rainbow Street"]

Stay tuned for more of Armchair Expert. If you dare. ["Rainbow Street"] Dare. Guys, the movie kicks so much ass. It has so much of the original DNA, which of course I'm a huge, huge fan of. Connor, you must feel flattered that not only was the first reverse nude scene so wonderful. You keep saying reverse nude like there's a front view My Irish compatriot, Barty Keown was butt naked in one of his recent movies

Frontal as well Oh, I love him Yeah, he's great going I know him well, I know him for many years Do you? I know him, yeah, I know Barty He's had a crazy story, right? He's had a troubled one already

But he's doing very well, he's a great actor, hell Barty Yeah, he's a great actor But he done a great actor. But he done a bit of front. I mean, I don't give a fuck. Talk to me. What? What happened?

But I gotta say, the ultimate compliment is, they were like, you know what? That was so good. Let's fucking end this movie with another shot. Yeah. That's how you know you've scored in a movie, when they decide to put you in the last frame of the movie. Yeah, that is true.

I didn't think of it like that. I was just happy not to be wiped out and maybe there's an opportunity. Well, as we educate you on this, let me just tell you, when they decide to go back to you with the titles. It means you've done good. That means you popped.

That's great, that is, yeah. That's so good. All right, well, boys, what is next? Do you think now that you like it enough, you'll try to do it again? Well, we've had no discussions about it. You know, it's all still in the air. I'm sure an offer will come

and I'm interested to see what it is. Will we be bros? Will we have a task? What's the vibe gonna be? You guys need to do the Rocky Apollo. I'm so interested, cause there's some incredible writers out there that can really make magic and if there's a man that can make magic

and two men, it's myself and Jake, so we'll be excited to do something like that. I gotta add one other thing I forgot to say is the gift you gave the writers, which is normally they would have had to spend 15 minutes on your character to establish why you would be a threat to a guy who was seemingly undefeated in the UFC and killed somebody.

We don't really know why you're as tough as you are, other than it's Connor fucking McCracken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so meta. I mean, that's the thing about the movie that's so great, meaning it just exists outside of the actual storyline and inside the storyline. That's also what makes the movie so fun is great. Meaning it just exists outside of the actual storyline and inside the storyline. That's also what makes the movie so fun is like,

you can't remake the OG. Well, this is where this movie's superior to the original is that the bad guy in the original, it's not you. Patrick brings that movie home, but we don't have a comparable or equal as an adversary. And in this we do. We fall in love with you. You don't wanna be doing this to me.

And then he starts going crazy. He's suicidal. There's all these things about- He be doing this to me. And then he starts going crazy. He's suicidal. There's all these things about... He starts going sinister. He is torn when he starts going crazy and putting the thing in the back of the head. That happens at the drop of a hat. Me and him are fighting, right? And I'm beating him bad.

And at one stage I look at him like, what the fuck is up with this guy? There's something wrong with this guy. He's a psycho. I looked at him like that. Just not even part of the story unbeknownst. And then Doug Liman jumps in, wait, wait, wait, hold on. That's it. And then the whole thing shifts

and then he becomes a bit evil. And then I almost become the likable guy and it's just a weird fucking dynamic. I was shocked that could happen in the making of a movie. But stuff like that happens on Doug Liman's movies all the time. Even with Steven and Garrett, that first slap fight was just a punch fight. They wanted it to be kind of funny

and I was like, oh, it's cool, but what if I just slapped the shit out of all of them? And they were like, yes, we're gonna redo that. And so they just really re-choreographed the whole thing for Slap. But by the way, you're telling so much about your character in that moment. To choose slapping, it's like, you don't wanna do this.

You're not a bravado tough guy trying to dominate people. You have integrity. The difference between you punching them and slapping them, and that seems so significant. It establishes that your character has integrity. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, it's so subtle and it can just be discovered and it's so powerful. But the writers had their couple columns of scenes that were always there that worked so well but then there was always room for play. Even in the fighting there

was always room for play so we were re-choreographing moments in the moment. We'd have a shape of the fight, and then we knew Doug wanted to shoot things in longer takes than just like cutting for angles. And then we would do stuff and it wouldn't work, and then we'd recalibrate, and then he would come up with an idea. We'd look back, oh, that looks better if I come over here.

Why don't I just throw a kick instead of a punch? And why don't I give you an elbow, and then I'll grab you? And then we just do it. So for me, I'm not the best with remembering choreography when I got to do it like an improv or someone told me, say the line like this, go now. It was the same thing with the fights. So the fights have that spirit.

We did that one take and it worked. Okay, cool. We did that. It wasn't exactly how we choreographed it. Let's move on. Let's go to the next section. We did that the whole time. It just made it so much more enjoyable.

Sometimes you would hit a wall with the cardio and you were like, right, I'm done. And I'd be fucking exhausted also. So when he done that and he's the head, I was like, yes, thanks. Because a lot of these fights happen at night, they happen at night. And so we were shooting over a long run. 4 AM, I'd be like, guys, it's going to be dangerous. Where are you?

Need to be back now for the day shoot. He was like, 10 hours. I work in January and then I work in July. For 30 minutes. That's exactly what he said. I work in January and then I work in July. For 30 minutes. That's exactly what he said. He's like, I'm coming back tomorrow, we're not finished. I thought last night I'll see you in six months

for another five. It's so true. You said that to me. You said that to me. How long was the shoot? It was between two and three months. Oh, he was only supposed to be there for four weeks. I was there for about 10 weeks all in.

So I actually shaved my beard. Because I was like, all right, we're done. It was wrapped. We had the fucking wrap happy days. And then I shaved the beard. And then I started getting phone calls. I'll come back, we do one more thing. It was like, huh?

Sorry. I was like, you want to fucking put a story that I'm gonna shave the beard? Well, you guys crushed it. How nice is it to be promoting something where you actually can be friends? Ah, 100%. You can go back and forth, right?

Oh. Yeah. You don't need unsolic and forth, right? Oh. Yeah. You don't need unsolicited advice, but I'm gonna give it to you. I think you're a very special person. Thank you so much. I'm 13 years further down the road than you, and you have the most special opportunity,

which is like you've been building, building, building, and you're gonna continue to build. And at some point, you'll have built all the shit, and I think you'll find the joy in giving it away to people. Not the things, but helping the you'll find the joy in giving it away to people, not the things, but helping the other people get to build their shit. And you have the most incredible opportunity

because every boy loves you. You are the most masculine human being on planet Earth. And if you choose to bring in the 12-year-old sometimes, you give permission to all those boys to bring in their 12-year-, you give permission to all those boys to bring in their 12 year old, and I hope you do that, because you have the power, you're so powerful.

Appreciate it, man, thank you so much. What would you say? Would you say keep going in this industry, in this business? The more you are able to be honest about the vulnerabilities and fears you've had, and the things that scare you, and the humanness you have,

I think it allows another boy to go, yeah, me too, man, I'm fucking afraid, and I'm afraid of this, and I'm not allowed to even say it, or I'm a pussy. So you're on this incredible ride, you're really special, and I think the more you choose to bring that in, that's a gift you could give.

You have the ear of so many boys that no one has. And they're little. And what you would tell your son, feel free to share that out loud everywhere you go because it's really powerful. Thank you so appreciate that man. This has been such a pleasure man. I didn't think I'd ever get to sit down and talk to you.

This is so fun. Would you believe this is my first podcast? It is. It's my first podcast. Well we are on. You know I'm really liking the vibe I have to say. They're not always fun. They're not like this.

I wouldn't say so. I'm going to say something actually because I think the two of you are obviously just great human beings and what you bring out in people in your show is so special and I just love what you said and what you're doing every day is good stuff. Thank you. That's so sweet. Like really, it's really good stuff.

Run back at you. Yeah. Real recognize real. I like the really, it's really good stuff. Right back at you. Yeah. Real recognize, real. I like the hard work. So attractive. Everyone here's so hot. Let's just say it. Let's just end on that.

This is a fucking smoke show. They're bringing the fire extinguishers in a minute. We should have had cameras on the floor. All right, love you guys. Good luck with Roadhouse. It's spectacular. It comes out March 21st on Amazon. I know everyone's a little bummed by that.

I'm excited. I think the most amount of people are going to be in the show. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited luck with Roadhouse. It's spectacular. It comes out March 21st on Amazon. I know everyone's a little bummed by that. I'm excited. I think the most amount of people will see it.

I want everyone to see it. You think it's better for streamer? I think more people will see it. I see it. Well, there you go. So it's like, again, if you're in a position where you're trying to build some career in one box office data to demonstrate

how much you should get paid, sure, I would want that for you. But if you're an artist and you want the most amount of people to have a blast on a Friday night and watch this, this is it. Yeah, deadly, lovely. I agree. You know, when you think about it as a kid,

I think about when I watched certain things on VHS. Oh, fuck yeah. Some of the things that I loved the most that lasted. I didn't see this. I didn't see Roadhouse in the movie theater. No, I saw Point Break on VHS. You feel like you own it. You have like ownership over it.

Yes. And I think it doesn't take away from that experience of going to cinema because tonight when we go. I'm very glad I get to do both. Yeah. I can't wait to be in a room with those people watching this movie on a big screen. It's going to be a party.

Let's go party, son. Yeah. I hope you pace yourself. It's a little early. Let's get you an eight ball so that you're awake for the. Ah. Started and ended on Coke, I love it. All right, good luck, this was awesome.

Stay tuned for the fact check so you can hear all the facts that were wrong. Ready almost? I got a few more chews left. Just a couple more bites. These bars are very chewy. Yeah they are. Which I like. You know how I feel about too chewy.

Caramel. Mm-hmm, not for me. Ding ding ding. You have caramel bands on. Yeah, I was gonna fight that, but you're right. You have caramel skin. That'll fight. Why? It's not the appropriate color. Not that yellow? Yeah. That's fight. Why? It's not the appropriate color. Not that yellow? Yeah.

That's fair. What would you prefer? It's brown skin. Brown skin. My skin is brown. Brown skin, I'm talking about your brown skin. I don't know where your stops and where mine begins. What's that?

There's a beautiful song. I feel very excluded about it, because it's two brown skin lovers, and they don't know where one starts and the other ends. And you would know, if you were brown skinned, you're with me, it would be Stark. Like, oh, gross. Yeah, you're not a part of that song.

Jesus, turn the lights down in here. India Ari. Yeah. Oh, India Ari. Go ahead and hit us with a little bit of that. There's also a Brown Skin Girl. Leon Bridges? Leon Bridges song. That is good. Very good. I like that I think of myself.

And there's brown sugar. Brown skin, you know I love your brown skin Ooh, sexy. I can't tell where yours begins I can't tell where yours begins. I can't tell where mine is. Oh, nice. Mm. Okay.

No skin. Fuck. Great. Ding ding ding. I virtually had the lyric. It's probably been 15 years since I heard this song, yeah. You did good. I'll give it to you. I mean, not in its rendition, but the lyrics were, yeah. Ding ding ding, India aree. Oh, but the lyrics were. Yeah. Ding, ding, ding, India, aree. Oh, wow.

India, the country. Today we released Bill Gates' episode. It's actually not a ding, ding, ding, because that's not what this is for. We're not redoing the fact check for an episode that came out this morning. But I'm thinking about it. Me too, because we got to post our little videos about it.

And do you know what Bill posted? No. Do you want me to read it? Yes, I'm scared. You should be so scared. Very scary. It's always great to join Dax Shepard and at Dax Shepard and at ML Padman

for an episode of At Armchair Expert Pod. They're two of my favorite people. Oh man. Now I posted that and I put an arrow to that line. Okay, great. And I said, you said it, no take backs. So. You're good at this thing. Life?

Yeah, well life with social media and emails, the way you wrote to the best boy, classic. I call that writing. Yeah. You're good at it too. I have an arena in which I'm good at it. I don't know how great I am at it, like on Instagram or stuff.

Like I can write prose and screenplays. Don't you feel, I guess we're gonna brag. Today's a good episode to brag. Why? Because this is for Jake and Connor. Oh, right, and he is. And Connor's all about. He's made a career out of self-promotion.

That's right. Yeah. And he is, like he promotes self-promotion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he talks about that, it's important. It's weird, well, it does fall into the thing I have said in the past, which is there's certain people when they're ostentatious, I don't like it,

and there's certain people I really root for them when they're ostentatious. Conor McGregor is from fucking Dublin 12. If he's out there showing off. He made it happen. I like it, I can stomach it, as opposed to like the child of a billionaire doing it. It's a little different.

Ding ding ding, boo. India, India, Iran, Brown skin. Okay, bragging. Okay. Writing. I think writing is the only, now I'm gonna say it, and it's gonna backfire so bad. But I think for is the only, now I'm gonna say it, and it's gonna backfire so bad. But I think for me personally, writing is the only place,

it's the only arena that I feel confident, I'm never gonna write something bad. Sure, yeah. I might write something just fine, or it'll be okay, but I don't ever worry that what I'm putting out there in writing is bad. Yeah, yeah, I can relate to that.

Do you feel like that? I think you're gonna go way further, that's fine. That's not too braggy. Well, it's a little braggy. It's braggy, but I can't say that about any other arena in my entire life, it's just that. I know that about myself. Yeah, I would agree.

Like I can do some bad acting. I tell jokes that don't work. I, you know, I fucking crashed my charger a couple years ago. Sometimes I wear bad outfits. Sometimes, you know, it happens. Yeah, in the morning I have bad breath. Let's not talk about it. I think it's good to, good.

I sound like Aaron's uncle. I'm not. You sound like Christopher Walken. No. I'm not seven. And I sure as hell ain't four. I'm 74 years old, motherfucker. Wow.

It's a really interesting accent. It's almost Cajun, it's almost Southern. Yeah. It's almost Native American. There's a lot. So what's going on? Yeah, and he's a white gentleman with very long hair. He looks like a biker. Yeah.

I think it was six though. I'm not six, and I sure as hell ain't four. I'm 64 years old. He is not to be confused with the person on the Ted Segers. Cam, that's Aaron's dad. Yeah, but his brother. Aaron's dad's brother is this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Also, Ted Segers is in Los Angeles. It's here in LA, yes. Very exciting. Yes, at Boycen, is that how I pronounce it? And I didn't know that until Laura posted it, which, like, I should have known that. And I've been to that store. You have?

Yeah, in the Valley. It's a good store. It's all in a store, yeah. I bought wine there, not for me. Yeah, of course not. But it's a good store. It's all NA, yeah. I bought wine there, not for me. Yeah, of course not. But it's a beautiful store. Yeah, yeah, I'm like overly thrilled by it. If you live in LA, you could walk in there

and buy a six pack of Ted Seger. I mean, you should definitely go. Okay. And like, you know. Take a picture? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I should. We've had a very busy week.

We have. Yeah. But it's no excuse. It's not an excuse and it's a failing. It's a failing on my end. And talk about some writing I'm proud of. Yeah, Ted Seger. That weirdly is my favorite thing to write on. It happens all the time, like we'll have to write a deck,

we'll have to write a pitch to a bar, I have to write some posters to celebrate St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, fun. They tell you what that one is? No. Make sure you don't wake up next to a leprechaun. I have to write some posters to celebrate St. Patrick's Day. They tell you what that one is? Make sure you don't wake up next to a leprechaun, Ted Segers. Oh, that's fun. That's so funny, I love it.

Great. I like the image of waking up next to a leprechaun. Oh my God, so tiny. They're tiny, right? Yeah, they're real miniature. And they're all there at the ends of the rainbow there with the pot of gold. They're tiny, right? Yeah, they're real miniature. You know how they're at the ends of the rainbow there with the pot of gold? They're rich.

Maybe you should wake up next to a leprechaun because they're rich. It's just like inner species breeding's bad. Yeah, sure, that should be avoided. Unless it's a male, no, yes, a female human and a male dolphin. Male leprechaun? That's the only one we've approved.

I have not approved that. You keep trying to rope me in. The woman wants to have a relationship with a male dolphin. It's still not okay. And the male dolphin is not a victim. Women can take advantage too. I'm not gonna sign off.

Of a male dolphin? Yes. They'd fuck a pile of wood hoping there was a snake in there. No, dolphins are almost like humans. Yeah, they're perverts like humans. Exactly. Yeah, humans without any of the societal pressure

did not be perverts. Yeah, they're gross. They're so cute and then they're not. They're not really cute, that's what's weird. There was, well they're very cute. Everyone's decided, like, okay, we place them in the category of cute animals. Flipper, they're very cute. Everyone's decided, like, okay, we place them in the category of cute animals. Flipper, that's probably why.

Yeah, I guess. It's just like when you really try to remove yourself from your programming about cute animals. Yeah. They're not. You objectively look at them. Well, no, dolphins look like they're smiling. The corners of their mouths kind of tilt up

like they're smiling. They're smiling because mouths kind of tilt up like they're smiling. They're smiling because they're sickos. Because they just blasted some human. Exactly. Some happy human. Do smiling dolphin. They're crazy cute. But it's so hard to know what's what these days.

But remember there was the fucking video of the ones in a river in South America and the dolphin was on its back. And do you remember this, Rob? And he was like, he was fucking, I think he was fucking a dead anaconda or something. It was so weird. I think I remember this.

You remember this? Yeah, we talked about it on here. Yes, it was so extreme, the horniness of this thing. It was like trying to pump on an anaconda and its dong was hanging out and stuff. and then you just put it on. Yes, it was so extreme, the horniness of this thing. Trying to pump on an anaconda and its dong was hanging out and stuff. It was at full attention. I just think there's absolutely no way

you can look at this. That little puppy, cute little Dalmatian. And then think it's the same category as a. It's a dolphin? Dolphin. I think dolphins are very cute. Does it bother you? This is a statue, this cute thing.

It did not look like a real dog to me. I was like, that's either AI or a product, and it was the latter. Does it bother you when animals have those pink penises? Yes. Yeah. Why is that? It's like their insides are out or something. Well, you mean the red rocket?

Yeah, like the dog's penis is very troubling. Yes. And then the dolphin penis is so troubling. It's like pink and human skin. Ugh, yeah. Ugh. It's because they don't have control over it. It feels like, it feels dangerous.

It feels like the insides of their bodies are pouring out. I want their penises to be that nice silver gray color that the rest of their body is. That'd be preferred. At least a horse. But our insides are different colors. They are, but a horse dick is very consistent with their belly skin.

A horse dick's still dark as hell. But is that because there's hair all over it? No, it's the skin itself is dark. It's not like bright pink. Well, what about white horses? Ooh, type in white horse penis. No, I'm not. Yes. No, I'm not. Yes, why?

I'm not. You think the law will come and get you? I don't want to. You're allowed to look at animal penises. I don't think I wanna see that. You do. Well, a red. It's not pink. Stop, you're being.

A red rocket looks like your skin, it was like peeled off, so just imagine your penis with its skin off. Yes, it looks internal. It looks like I'm looking inside the body. It's dark, it's dark. The white horse penis. He's got a big dark penis. So it's not the same color.

They have such enormous penises. Ew, look at the, ew. Actually, it's kinda pink again. Yeah, see, it's pink. They're all, ew, this one, I have a lot of memories of one, this one I like. This is very pink. Is this another statue?

No, that's real. What is this statue of a horse with his penis? It does kind of look like it. Okay, a lot of animals have pink dicks. Yeah, it's weird. I want it to match the rest of their skin color. I mean, I think, don't white men's penises err on pinkish?

Like they could be pink? No, my penis is completely consistent with my normal skin color. And then it gets darker where the foreskin used to be. Yeah, mine too. But I've heard of people having miscolored penises. You have? In your travels?

Yeah. Bobby Lee famously talks about his being purple. Oh really? Yeah, I've seen a pink one. Oh. I've seen a pink one. Oh really? Yeah.

Like pink like a dog's? That's right, I guess. Like bright, kinda like brightish pink. Oh my goodness. It's kinda cool. Yeah, it's rare. Yeah. Limited-ish. Let's clean it up.

Yeah, sorry, guys. Sorry. Although, if you made it through this episode. Sorry, not sorry. It's the right episode for this. You're right. But I'm sorry, Bill. Oh, but this isn't his episode.

But we were talking about it. Oh, but there was something that came up during the dolphin debate of 2024. Okay. Which was my daughter went on a field trip to the LA Zoo. Okay. Oh, cause I know it, cause I was thinking, why do we think they're cute? I think largely cause of media,

so Flipper was a very popular show. Right. And so she went to the LA Zoo and they were tasked with like kind of writing down pros and cons of like the experience of the animals, I guess, like whether it was a good or bad thing or if it's ethical, which is great, let's have the debate. Interesting.

Yeah, and of course my knee jerk is to get nervous that everything's so lefty. Yeah, you are very nervous about that. I am, I mean, look, they go to a very, very liberal school, which I like, but what I was nervous about is just that zoos would be bad because everything's bad needs to stop. And so I was trying to explain to her the history of the orca, the killer whale,

which was like there was no hunting regulations on killer whales. There was no protection, governmental or otherwise, until SeaWorld. SeaWorld, which is Blackfish, if you've seen that, of course, I'm not arguing it's not terrible for the orca that's at SeaWorld. But also what is undeniable is that

Shamu changed the image of the orca. Prior to that, there was no appetite to get any regulations to protect these animals, and then America fell in love with Shamu, and then we get all this legislation to prevent them from being hunted. So it's just very utilitarian argument. It's like, yeah, it's not great to keep,

not even, it's not great. It's bad to keep an orca in a swimming pool. It's terrible. Yeah, it's terrible. But if keep an orca in a swimming pool. It's terrible. Yeah, it's terrible. But if the orca suffering in the swimming pool saved all orcas, that's a compelling. But no, because then I wanna go see Shamu and I wanna go to more water parks like this

that have captive animals and when there's a business around it, it's gonna make more and more capture. But what I'm saying is without Shamu, they would have been still the killer whale. We would have not fallen in love with them and seen that they're cute and smart. So there would have been no legislation.

They probably would have been hunted to extinction. So like Shamu saved, I think most people would agree with this even in the zoological world. Shamu saved, I think most people would agree with this even in the zoological world. Shamu saved the orca. So that's a relevant part of the whole thing. And so what's weird is like a zoo, clearly not how an elephant should be living.

Elephants supposed to walk hundreds of miles a day. It's a migratory animal. It's heartbreaking that they would be in there. But if people don't see those animals, they also tend to not care and they don't vote for legislation and they don't donate money and try to save animals. So it's like, it's weird that there might be

a sacrificial lot that is ultimately better for the whole population. That's, you know, it's a, minimally it's a complicated situation. It's not just is it good or bad to have zoos. It's like you need the will of the people to protect them and you need them to have experienced them and know they're real and care about them.

So it's like, it's complicated. Sure, yeah. I guess you could argue though, like if I was listening to me right now, this is the argument I would mount. That is probably true up until the, even into the 60s and 70s. But now you have Animal Planet and nature shows.

So kids do see and fall in love with animals. We don't necessarily need them in the zoo. I don't think there should be any more zoos, no. Well, here's another thing. You could also make a democratizing argument, which is like 99% of Americans, 99.9%, are never gonna have the resources to see any of these majestic animals in their real life.

Like for the kid from the inner city, they're not gonna go and see any of these animals. If they don't get to see them at the zoo, they'll never be able to see that kind of animal. But that's okay. Is it? Yeah. And that's actually, to me, the problem. It's like, this is an opportunity for people to see them.

It's just gonna spur on more and more business around it, which is gonna cause more and more of these animals that should not be in these environments to be in these environments, and that's a problem. To make a business out of like, oh. Let's just be clear, if it were super profitable to start up zoos, yeah, I think that would be an issue, but all these zoos are municipalities.

Sea World? Not Sea World, not Sea World. But I'm saying. The LA Zoo, the San Diego Zoo, these are all city owned, and they lose money, and they're there to let children get to see these animals. Yeah, I don't think it's a right, I don't think it's a human right

to get to be able to see those animals. I don't think it's a right. I don't think it's more important for a human to be able to see it, I'm not even an animal person, but I don't think it's more imperative for a human to be able to see an animal than for that animal to be able to exist in its environment.

Yeah. So Jake, we said he has been in 75 movies, according to his IMDB. Seven. Seven plus five, 12. 12? No, no, of course not. Well, you never know.

There's some actors that have been in like a really shockingly slim number of movies. As an actor, it says 61. Okay. Now, do you know staph infection is spelled S-T-A-P-H? I just learned it. Well, I know, I don't know that. I don't know that.

New information. Yeah. STAPHONEY. It's short for Staphany. Yeah, exactly. A name that used to be popular. Before staph infection. That's right.

Yeah. That's why we haven't heard of it in a long time. Yeah. Staph infections are caused by Staphylococcus bacteria. Very common in hospitals, right? Yeah, and very common on the wrestling mat, which we use wrestling mats for cheerleading. And so we were always like,

had to be really careful about staff infections. Really? Yeah. Oh wow. Because the wrestlers had it and it was gross. It means we had to wipe. How do you know you guys weren't tainting those? We didn't have it. We're clean, hot and clean.

True leaders are hot and clean. Actually. That is not true. Yes it is. Okay. It's true. Ooh, it says often found on the skin or in the nose. Is it not a bit of an umbrella term? Is there a bunch of different kinds of staph infections?

You think it's a big umbrella? I don't think so. I mean, maybe. Is this always the same exact? No, there's, oh, there's like MRSA, that's a type of staph. So yeah, there's, I guess, there's different strains. Yeah, there we go, strains.

But boils, blisters. That'll come from a staph invasion? It can cause food poisoning. That doesn't make sense, but that's what it says. It says in rare cases it can turn deadly if the bacteria invade deeper into the body or under the bloodstream, resulting in fever, joint and muscle pain.

Oh, I feel like I have it. I wonder if I've ever had it. You would know, you'd have to take antibiotic for it. You know, I always think this, like once in a blue moon, I'll have to take an antibiotic because like I'll have surgery. And then I do wonder in those times, like am I knocking out some stuff I didn't even know I had?

Like I always think, I mean, there's a big campaign to not take antibiotics because then you get superbugs. Let's shelve that for half a second. It also kills your microbiome. But fuck all that, table all that. Just every four years, just do a cycle to make sure in case you got some staph or this or that. Nothing's like, you know, accumulating.

Okay, I don't think that's good advice. Okay, great. I guess I'm grateful when I, I never wanna take one. And I'm also the type of person that when they're prescribed I generally don't take them. But I do of course for surgeries, you have to. Yeah, you must. But when I have to take them I think,

oh this is good, in case I have any other kind of infection. I'm fine taking them. Yeah, you like them. Apparently pneumonia is a type of staph infection. Ooh. And like food poisoning, boil. That's what I just said. Yeah, yeah, there's a whole bunch.

Yeah. Boils are, those are just, those are the symptoms. The skin one's just one of TSS. I'm glad I haven't had a boil. No shade to anyone that's got boils, but that just, the word, it's one of these, it's one of these diseases, like Peyronie's, which I have, so I can make fun of that one.

Where they didn't do the disease any favors by naming it boil. It's like your skin's boiling. Yes, I know, it's like a descriptor. Remember, I thought it was called, oh my God. I'm learning. What if they named diarrhea yuck? Stinky yuck. I kind of prefer it. You would. I God, I'm learning. What if they named diarrhea yuck? Stinky yuck.

I kind of prefer it. You would? Diarrhea is a horrible word. It's a horrible word. Back to ding ding ding. We love when Bill Gates has to say it, because it sounds. Exactly, even though this isn't Phil's.

I know, but he shouldn't have to say that word ever. But in the documentary, he had to say it so many times. He has to say it a lot, because he disseminated the rotavirus vaccine and saved all these people. Okay, I always thought it was Infantigo. Impantago. It's Impatigo, Impatigo.

Oh my God, this is new information. I hate to tell you why I know that. You had it. As a kid. Impatigo. I had Impatigo on my nose. Aw. And it was assumed, I don't know why anyone knew this,

but it was assumed I got it swimming in my grandparents' motel pool. Sick. Yep. Is that a kind of staph infection? Then you've had a staph infection. Oh wow. Then I did.

Empatigo. Oh no, empatigo. Okay. And I thought it. Impentago. Oh no, Impetigo. Okay. But I, and I thought it was Infant-igo, Infantigo. Yeah, and I thought it was Impentigo. You thought it was Impetago. Impetigo. Oh my God.

Now I can't remember what I thought it was. Impentigo. Yeah, when I was a kid I had Impentigo. That's how it sounds. I ever tell you about my Impen-tie-go? I have them, bro. Oh, fuck, grab a beer, dude. Yeah, I totally, you know my grandmother's had a motel,

right, on the highway? Oh, God. I lived in it, man. I got fucking Impen-tie-go. It sounds Italian. Did it hurt? Yeah, I got like a scab on my nose. Do you remember it?

Yeah, I actually do. I hated it. I was like, why do I have a scab on my nose? I didn't scrape it. Or maybe I scraped it on the side of the pool and then I got impenetrable. I don't know, but fuck. It was embarrassing and it was a gross one.

I think my brother was grossed out. Well, yeah, they're fluid-filled blisters or sores and they leave a yellow or brown crust. Oh, fuck yeah. And the family knew. I knew it was gross. I knew I had a gross thing. And I didn't do anything wrong.

I went swimming. I was just a little boy. It wasn't like I was with a prostitute or anything or doing drugs. If you're with a prostitute, it's great. It's good. It's good for you. No judgments.

And if you get impetigo. It's great. It's fine. Oh my God. So you took antibiotics for that. I don't remember that part. I remember my grandmother scraping this scab off my nose. And then adding like alcohol or rubbing.

Or fucking. Oh, she messed it all up. I'm so lucky I don't have a humongous scar. And maybe I do. I think we. You never saw this scar on my nose, girl? Yeah, from my infant tiger. Did I tell you about that?

Grab a beer. Grab a beer, light up, let's talk. Okay, well I wanna stop talking about this. Infant tiger? Yeah. That is nice though. Infantigo? Yeah. That is nice though, you had an acorn. I did. You thought it was infantigo.

Cause you thought what, infants got it? I think. Yeah. And I wasn't, I was not an infant, but I was not, I was still a boy. How old were you? Probably eight. Oh.

Yeah. Ew. White hair and scabs on my nose. Too many freckles. Smell like shit, had diarrhea. You did? No. Oh man. Just trying to paint it really bad.

You probably did from the emphytaigo. I never really had it when I was a kid. I mean I did occasionally when I had the flu. Of course you did, you just don't remember it. There's no way, oh wait, I wonder. I developed like a gluten allergy and didn't know it. I told you that when I stopped actually eating gluten, we used to talk about it all the time.

I had a Lucy Goosie several times a week. Yeah. And I have not had it in two years. Yes you have. What are you talking about? Sometimes you text me about your diarrhea, so I know you have it more than. I've maybe had it once or twice in two years.

It's been shocking. The number's gone down. By 99.9%. Where I had just thought my intestinal fortitude and disposition was that, that created that. Yeah. No, it was gluten. I don't wanna, I'm mad about that.

Of course, I am too. Gluten's delicious. I want you to eat pizzas. Tim Tams. Tim Tams and lasagnas. Oh yeah, Big Macs, I was talking with Lincoln about Big Macs yesterday. I was saying deathbed, I might have two or three. Then I was telling her this funny thing where, wouldn't, at some point Kristen and I had the same Postmates account.

We only had one account in the households for whatever reason. And when she would go out of town, this happened a couple times, where she was out of town and then we were talking and she said, who'd you have over for dinner last night? And I go, I didn't have anyone over for dinner. She's like, you clearly had someone over for dinner.

You spent $33 at McDonald's. And you got two Big Mac value meals and a 20 piece nuggets. And that was for me. All for you. Occasionally if she would travel, I'd put the kids to bed and I'd go, let's go. And I would get the two full meals with the extra sauce

and the extra cheese and a 20 piece nuggets and I'd sit in front of the TV at my old house and just. Would you eat it all? Yeah, I'd get high. Really? Yeah. So I was saying it might be my deathbed meal because I won't ever have to pay the price. Yeah, that's true.

Of the gluten. It's weird, because like you're much bigger than me. Yeah. Obviously, but your stomach can't be that much bigger than mine. It can't be. And how I could never do that, and not because I wouldn't want to, but I physically would not be able to eat that much.

But I am virtually too exercise, weight-wise. But I wouldn't be able to eat. You could eat a Big Mac value meal. In 10 nuggets. In 10 nuggets? Yeah, if you wanted to get high. It would be very hard. Yeah, that's not hard for me at all. Well, of course, that's not.

That would make sense to me. No, no, the order I get. Really? The two value meals and the 20 piece, that's not hard at all. How much? I'm loving it down to the last nugget. I mean, but I guess two value meals and the 20 piece, that's not hard at all. How much? I'm loving it down to the last nugget. I mean, but I guess it's, maybe it's all,

I don't know, because like I could eat a whole pizza. Exactly, it's like what are your Achilles? But you could maybe eat three whole pizzas? Two, I could eat two. I always ate a whole pizza on my own when I still ate pizza. Yeah. I'd always order my own, and then I would get into other people's as they didn't finish.

I want pizza. When I can really go down crazy, have you ever seen me eat chili dogs? Coney Island? I've been with you once, but I don't remember. I'll eat six or eight. Wow. Yeah, and I used to go with my friend Tim Lovesdead

to Sizzler, and we would have chicken wing eating contests and I'd eat like 28 of those wings. Okay, that's like a different thing. I'm just thinking about like average. Not to win anything, just to make yourself happy. And yeah, I would eat a whole and a half pizza for sure. I'm having a pizza tonight. I'm so jealous.

Domino's? Maybe. Extra sauce, extra cheese? Extra crispy, thin cheese? Extra crispy? Thin and crispy? Thin. Yeah, thinner the better. It's a good pie.

Just two really good free commercials we just did. I know. Okay, and for impen-tay-go. Yes, also if you're the proprietor of an impen-tay-go dispensary, you're- In antibiotics, turns out we're pro, which- We're not supposed to be, but we are. We're not supposed to be.

Okay, Patrick Swayze, yes, he did gymnastics. He did swimming, he did football. He was offered an athletic and dance scholarship. Yeah, I think he did ballet, too. Yeah, well, dance. San, ooh. He enrolled in San Jacinto. How are you spelling that?

J-A-C-I-N-T-O. San Joaquinto. San. Joaquinto. You think so? I do. With a C? Yeah. Oh, wouldn't it be, oh, maybe.

I think it's San Joaquinto. You're lying. No, I't it be, oh, maybe. I think it's San Joaquin. You're lying. No, I'm not, I really believe that. You just made a smiley face. Well, because it sounds ridiculous that I'm saying San Joaquin with such confidence, but Rob's gonna let us, yeah, here we go. Jacinto. Jacinto.

What? You were talking to me. We are looking at how to pronounce these names as well as how to say more interesting but sometimes confusingly. Pause it. So make sure to stick to the channel. Pause, pause, pause.

Everything he's saying already sounds wrong. So how are we gonna trust this? You have to pick a different one? No, but he said, he still, it was the way he pronounced the J. And the next thing. Better hours you will leave. Hussing toe.

Hussing toe. Hussing toe. He'll have more videos on. Ohacinto, Hacinto. Hacinto. He'll have more videos on. Oh my gosh. This is awful. I don't think that was very helpful. Okay, no it is though, cause I read that as I said,

it's either San Jacinto or San Jacinto, and that is what he's saying, Jacinto. San Joaquinto. He's saying Jacinto. So San Joaquinto. He's saying, no. Hansi's saying, no, keep it fun, it's so fun. I wanna finish this sentence.

Houston, Texas, where he focused on gymnastics. Hymnastics. Pfft. Hymnastics. What if that was a way to like, butch it up for boys? I thought it was too effeminate. They call it himnastics. I don't do gymnastics, I do himnastics.

This is such a ding ding ding. What we just fell into is such a ding ding ding. We went to the Roadhouse premiere after we recorded this episode. We went to the Roadhouse premiere, you moderated a panel afterwards. With all the actors. With the actors, yeah. And before you went up there Roadhouse premiere, you moderated a panel afterwards. With all the actors. With the actors, yeah.

And before you went up there, you said, I'm gonna introduce him as Jake Gyllenhaal. Yay, thank you. I've been begging you to say it for a week. I said, don't do that. And you said, I'm gonna. And then you did, and everyone laughed, and then you tried to get me to say it for a while,

and I didn't. But now it's sort of like San Jacinto. Yes, or gymnastics, gymnastics. Yegylenhal, it's just so fun to say. Did you have fun just now when you said it? Um, no. Rob, are you willing to say it? I like Yegylenhal. Yes.

Like it's a big shock to get Rob to say Yank Gyllenhaal. That's not the point. I just want to know if he enjoyed saying it. Cause it feels good to me to go Yank Gyllenhaal. Well, I said it. Thank you. You heard it. Thank you.

That was for you. That was January 2nd. You got that covered now. You don't have to give me a present next year. Okay. He said UFC is the fourth biggest sport. He said it's. Bigger than hockey or. He did say that.

The only thing that would make that hard to measure is. Yeah, which is relevant, but I would just imagine that their hurdle would be frequency. Like there's 62 or 78 hockey games a year. How many are there Rob? I'd say's like 80. 80. So you're like, you're multiplying 50 teams

times 80 games for the viewership. So it's kind of, but maybe it just means attendance or single event viewing is bigger. I don't know how you'd quantify that. But there's UFC fight nights that aren't pay per view. That are on weekly? Yeah, I think they're weekly. Just on any given night, aren't there 20 hockey games on?

Yeah, there are 82 games a season. How many teams? A lot of teams. 30 teams? I mean, I can't look it up, because last time we looked it up, remember, you didn't agree with it. Hockey was weird. Sports.

In the list. Which one? Remember I did a list and you didn't agree. Oh, worldwide, yes. Oh, it was because lawn hockey was on there. Not lawn hockey. Field hockey. Something was off. Is that field hockey was like the third biggest sport

in the world? Yeah, I mean. And we did just meet an Australian who played field hockey in high school. Yeah, and I also heard about somebody else who did that. Okay, five most popular sports in the world based on global participation and viewership include soccer, basketball, cricket, tennis,

and field hockey. It's here again, different. Yeah. So, yeah. Talk about being in a bubble. I mean, I have zero, I can't even picture what that looks like. And they're saying this is the fifth most popular.

And then a different this is the fifth most popular. That more people. And then a different one is saying soccer, cricket, field hockey, tennis, volleyball. No NFL. Yeah, these are worldwide. No, I know, no, no, no, no, I know. I think his claim was for America, but what I said, I misled you just now.

I do think you can count the viewers that are outside of the US for the most popular US sport. That's what I meant. Like if, like say nobody's watching hockey internationally, but UFC is global, but it's a sport in America. So I do think you should count those viewers. That's what I meant about worldwide. It says most popular team sports in the US

are American football. Well, team, it's not a team sport. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Most popular sport. Well, that's biggest sports in the US. America. Individual sports, I mean, it's individual sports, golf.

Sure. Boxing. I don't think boxing is bigger than UFC. I don't know what to tell you. Not anymore, I don't think it is. Yeah, I don't know. That bigger than UFC. I don't know what to tell you. Not anymore, I don't think it is. That's what it says on Wikipedia. I know, I know. I accept what you're reading, to me.

I don't accept that boxing is bigger than UFC, despite the claim on Wikipedia. I know that's frustrating. It sure is. Do you want from statistics into adda.org? So many fucking. It's an org. that's a good one. So many fucking. It's an org. It's a good one.

What's it say? Yeah. So football, number one, then basketball, baseball, boxing, hockey, soccer. Golf, MMA. Do you think they're counting UFC in boxing? MMA is here at 16.7%. What's that place at, number seven or eight? Eight. Well.

I think it's hard to, because those pay-per-view, like certain pay-per-view events for UFC are huge. I think that will pass viewership for like any given NHL game. Is it viewership or is it money? Or is it attendance? There's probably a lot of ways to measure it. Yeah, yeah, I mean according to Top End Sports,

one is motorsports. Well, NASCAR. Two tennis, three golf, four wrestling, five skiing. Yeah, if you went attendance, NASCAR, I can. This too complicated. It's too many metrics. There is, because there's multiple games on a football Sunday.

But I just wanna point out, there are races where there's 250,000 fans. Okay, well this according, this is for Pew. Oh, is someone Pue's? What's America's sport? Far more US adults say football than anything else. Okay, percent of US adults who say blank is America's sport. That's kind of an interesting way of looking at it.

I mean, there's just one metric, I guess. Football is far and above. Then baseball, basketball, soccer, auto racing. Then hockey, and then something else. Something else. Well, baseball used to be America's pastime, right? That was like an official slogan. Exactly.

Baseball, Chevrolet, is apple pie. That's like an official slogan. Exactly. Baseball Chevrolet's apple pie. That's right. Honda. Impenetrable. Ew, what, I... Peus, who has Impenetrable? Peus, oh. So.

Who has Impenetrable? It's not Impenetrable. That's what I thought. And I've had it. This is kind of like, I'm an ethnicity group, I've got to tell you all. Yeah, this is a very rare situation. No, no one would prefer that, it sounds horrible.

More than impa-tay-go, is that what you're saying? No, it's impa-tay-go. Impa-tool. Impa-tay-go. She is, fuck, some plethora. Stop. This guy, plethora. Stop!

Impa-tay-go all over his head to toe. What? Head to Tago. This is what happens. It's probably already obvious to the listener, but fuck it, we had a long week. We've had a long week, and this is the finish line. Okay, he says the quote, I'll make you so much money, you could swim in it, that's from Rocky V.

He loved his Rocky movies. Yeah, he would. Mm-hmm, of course. I was just gonna open up the door. Fine, I will. Okay. And ass cheeks clenching. Yeah.

Because that's the whole thing with Swayze and the movie. And like, is it hot? Not really. I'm just gonna- Did you watch the scene? No, I just mean, yeah, we've watched it on here. Well, I just meant like, have you touched- Rewatched it?

Yeah, to see if you like it. I haven't rewatched it in a minute, but you've played it a lot. Uh-huh, yeah. I mean, I don't think so. The butt looks better unclenched, is my vote. Me too. And I wonder why he did that,

because it's kind of like he was trying to squeeze in a fart. It didn't read as that to me, because he was alone by himself in a room, so he would have just let it go. No, sometimes I hold him in. By yourself? Oh my god, here we go, Buns is Steel, let's see. Are they allowed to show it on YouTube? They are. Of course.

Buns? There's QAnon on. Okay. Oh, she looks. Oh, there is someone else. They have slowed down. They're missing the end of that scene. There's a clench as he puts his pee on someone.

Fuck, I hope I'm not imagining the clench. Oh no. Oh my God, let's see. Well, I don't think you're gonna be able to see. I'm gonna have to put the film in tonight. That's what I'm gonna do. Perfect excuse to rewatch. His butt looks great though, there's no two ways about that.

It's like it's clenched though when he's walking. Yeah, it does. I think he's clenching it. Yeah, he's clenching it while he walks. So is that what you mean? Maybe. Maybe it's just a turn in your head. I wanna put a pin in this.

It does look clenched. Yeah, it is clenched. It looks smooth. It doesn't. The skin is nice. It looks like a far is trying to come out and he's desperate to keep it in. I can see that.

It looks like he's just trying to hold it in. That woman's in there and he's ashamed. I just, I hope no one thinks they should go try that for sexiness. Cautionary tale, armchair anonymous, right in. If you've clenched your butt cheeks to impress a lover. And it did not work. And it backfired.

And then you backfired. Yeah, because there was a backfire. You were unable to hold it in. Ah. Pfft. Ah. Anyway, I'm just saying, and it looks like we all agree, clenching is not as sexy as you'd think.

Unclenched. Unclenched is the way to go. I like to look full, the fuller it looks, the better. Because it gets kind of concave when you clench. Right, but I guess. And we like convex. But people might like it because then it looks a little more muscular.

Yeah, but I think. It's like a peck flex. Yeah, well they do it in bodybuilding and it's really the grossest part of bodybuilding because it looks like two roast beefs back there. It's not, that muscle doesn't look good clenched. It looks like a big, two big roast beefs. You know what I hate is when people refer

to vaginal lips as roast beef curtains. You do. I'm not surprised. It's not fun. It's not cute. I don't like that. Okay, well. I'm surprised you even know that.

Of course I know that. I didn't just wake up out of a cave. I didn't just fall off the turnip cart. Is that a phrase? Yeah. Is that what it means? That means you're new to town. Oh.

I think. I fell off the turnip cart? Yeah, they just fell off the turnip cart. I thought falling off the turnip cart meant like. Turnip truck. Turnip truck. Turnip truck. There was probably a cart before it was a truck.

I thought falling off the wagon is an addiction thing. Not maintaining your sobriety. What does it say, Rob? Yeah, country bumpkin, hillbilly fool, or country redneck. Who's basically jumped a truck to get into town. Yeah. Like this one just fell off.

What's the exact phrase? Fall off a turnip truck. Huh. You never heard that. But you know roast beef curtains. Yeah. I haven't heard it either. Turnip truck?

Yeah. Oh, I'm showing my it either. So. Turn up truck? Yeah. Oh, I'm showing my age I guess. It might be, it's like that quiz we took where it tells you where you're from. Regional. Yeah, it could be regional. Totally.

And the 70s thing as well. Oh. Yeah, I'm from the 70s. Clench, curtains, Impenetrago. Okay, love you. All right, love you! Love you!