Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard - Gal Gadot

Episode Date: August 31, 2026

Gal Gadot (The Runner, Wonder Woman, Fast & Furious) is an actor, action star, and former pageant winner. Gal joins Armchair Expert to discuss unexpectedly winning a beauty pageant, being thrust onto the front page of the New York Post at 21, and surviving cerebral venous thrombosis after the birth of her fourth child. Gal and Dax talk about being discovered for a Bond audition while studying law, reaching the point where she was ready to quit acting, and going from recovering in bed to training with an Olympic running coach for The Runner. Gal explains why struggle is essential to happiness, how parenthood constantly forces you to adapt, and why getting older can open you up emotionally.Thank you to our presenting partner Lilly. Lilly’s Foundayo™(orforglipron). Advertisement Disclaimer: Please see Indications and Safety Summary with Warnings for Foundayo™(orforglipron) at https://www.foundayo.lilly.com/risk Start your 2 month free trial today: https://youtube.com/premium . Terms Apply. Cancel Anytime.Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds: https://www.allstate.com/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome, welcome, welcome to armchair expert. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Miniker Mouse. Hello. Today we have Gail Godot. She is an actor. She is Wonder Woman. Snow White.

Red Notice. Fast and Furious. Several, I think, for Fast and Furious. Hardest Stone. She has a new movie out on Prime Video September 2nd called The Runner. It is a very high octane, crazy. This woman runs for two. hour straight. It's, uh, it scared me. Yeah, she said it was 110 pages of running. Yeah, it's,

unreal. Tom Cruise has got to take notice of this. This, I feel like maybe she's thrown a gauntlet down. I'd like to see Tom run an entire movie. God knows he could, you know, if anyone could do it. That's right. He could do it. Please enjoy Gail Godot. We are supported by Airbnb. So I'm planning this end of summer trip to Toronto with a few friends, and I can't wait. Canada in the summer is just unbelievable, and Toronto's got that energy where every neighborhood has its own thing going on. I already found a home on Airbnb and Queen West, somewhere we can settle in and make some great memories. The best part is everyone's got their own room, their own space to decompress, but we can link up in the living room at the end of the night. For that kind of trip, a hotel just doesn't give you the

space you need. I can't wait to settle in and find my local coffee shop, maybe my local restaurant, and really just pretend I live there. That is the joy of Airbnb. And I'm going to lean on the host for those local recommendations, the little spots you end up telling everyone about when you get home. That's what I love about Airbnb. You get to experience the neighborhood, not just the home. It starts to feel less like visiting and more like living there. Trips are just better on Airbnb. He's an object to be. Oh, and you're tall.

Oh, you are. Hi, Monica. Hi, Monica. Nice to meet you. Jenny, too, my hairstylist, was like, oh, just love Jenny more than any one. How do you know each other? She did Kristen's hair, does Kristen's hair a lot.

Oh, there you go. So you must know her too, no? Yeah, then we're all just in. We love her. Jenny. She's the best. So how did you guys start doing this together? Well, Dax wanted to do a pot. I was working with Kristen and I was at the house all the time. Dax wanted to start. It was like she doesn't do enough. Come do my podcast. No, we love to argue. So we generally have opposite opinions on any given topic. So our hobby when she worked for Kristen was I'd be walking through the kitchen and I'd be like, you're listening to Serial right? Yeah. I'm like, you think Adon did? She's like, he didn't do it. I'm like, of course he did it. You know. And we just got it. I basically lived at their house. We were all hanging out all the time.

I love that you do it from your house too. And then this, yeah. And she lives directly across the street. So she walks 12 feet and I walk 30 feet. That's really nice. We've been doing it almost nine years, eight and a half. You've been doing this for nine years almost. When it just started, you saw the potential with a podcast.

No, we didn't. You were just looking for an arena to fight. Yeah, kind of. Well, really, I was starting to be on a lot of. podcast as a guest. And I liked it so much more than say, although I like late night talk shows because I'm a comedian. That's fun. But I liked going there and being like, I don't have a seven minute chunk to be brilliant in. I can be my full self. And I remember leaving those interviews going like, well, that was really worthwhile more than a normal interview. I just loved being on them. And I was

like, I kind of want to do this. We're into a deeper dive, you know. And it's fun to have someone you can banter with. Yeah. Because if it gets tiring or if it gets to whatever, then you come to the rescue and vice versa. That's a good balance. But especially... Did we start now? I think we're always starting. You know you're my first. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Okay. Well, you've chosen well. We're honored. I think so, too. We'll see. Without naming anyone or I don't have any specific complaint, but Many of the podcasts, everyone involved has the same opinion. Yeah, it's true. And I find that a little bit.

Well, then why do we need a second person? Yeah, exactly. Let's just preach. Yeah, so she's a brown, tiny girl from Georgia, and I'm a super tall white. Big old personality. What about in Georgia? Duluth? Suburbs of Atlanta, basically.

Okay, Atlanta. You've certainly made movies in Atlanta yet. Yeah. Did any of those superhero movies take place there? Mine were in London. Okay. Sheik. Nice.

Not that Atlanta is not chic. I love the bucket area and all of that. It didn't sign on my phone because they did not know we were recording, you guys. You weren't told our slogan, which is A, B, R always be recording. Okay. Now I know. Rob starts it before we even walk in. He's always trying to catch us.

Yeah, yeah. It's all running. Okay, amazing. Well, you never know. No, we caught something amazing, which was we interviewed Brett Pitt last year. And so we're in here waiting for him to arrive. in the nervousness between the two of us, in particularly Monica.

That's so nervous. Why would you be nervous next to Brad Peen? It's like that's so strange. I'm never nervous, and so it was kind of a weird feeling. What sign are you? Double burgo. I'm a double tourist. Wow.

We just had somebody else on who is a brother of that. Since I've been back, every guest has been into astrology, and I got to hear the whole. Time for you to just embrace it. You're a tourist because you're very logical. That's how I used to be. Okay, hold on. And I just want to say, as an outside observer, who's not in the religion.

When I watch the exchange, it goes the same way every time it's like, are you a Pisces? No, I'm a Virgo. Oh, yeah, you're a Virgo. I'm a Sagittarius. Oh, yeah. I get it. Everyone gets excited about their sign. And then really nothing beyond that, which is kind of funny to observe.

It's a common tonneater. I feel like it's a good icebreaker. And I find myself, so first of all, I'm a tourist. I'm logical. I never believed in astrology until. Okay. One day I was home and I was cooking and the TV was on and they had this astrology time was the title of the show. It was back in Israel. And it was like a bunch of experts and you call from home and they do your maps and they tell you what to do in your life. I could not care less. I'm trying to switch the channel. And I could not care less. I'm chopping the abracine. And then they say our celebrity for today is Galgadotte.

I was 25 back then. And I'm like, what? Okay. I guess I'm going to listen to them. Let's see what they have to say. They were so accurate. They said she's influenced by Aries sign. Both of my parents are Aries.

She's thinking about expanding her family. I was in my first few weeks of my first pregnancy. And it's not something you would say about a 25-year-old. Right. And then they said, these bunch of things. And then I was like, oh, I got curious, started investigating a little bit. And now I don't lead my life with that, but I think it's compliment. It's like a good blush. It's a nice color. I agree. Sure, sure, sure. I agree. You're like, sure, sure.

No, we are. No, that's okay. I respect that. Hold on, no. From a Capricorn. No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. That's what I say. I say. I'm sorry. I recognize that we would all acknowledge we're very dynamic creatures and were being influenced. Our context. Our context is so broad. It's physical. There's so many things influencing us. Right. I understand that you're like, yeah, this is a 8% sprinkling that I think contributes to this. This is a little spice that I enjoy. It's just a fun. It's like an icebreaker. It's like a fun way to cut through. It's like, oh, I know something about you. Don't you find that sometimes you have phases in your life when you're more tired and you're more low energy and everything and everyone around you are the same? And then you realize that Jupiter is regressing.

Yeah, or Mercury's in retro. You need to be aware, that's. Sure, sure, sure. Okay, never like. Some people might call those spurious conclusions, but it doesn't matter. I'm going to tell you one tiny story. I'm not a hater on it. Like, it's not for me, but I don't have an ax to grind.

But I just said this one funny thing. So I had an astronomy class in college, and the teacher was telling us that he had so many different students that were constantly trying to argue the legitimacy of astrology. So he agreed to have a prominent astrologist come to the class and they were going to have a bit of a debate. Now again, this is coming from him. This seems a little convenient.

But he got everyone's birthday, and then he handed out these readings for each person. And everyone in the class looked at their thing. And my teacher said, I could see people going like, oh, I. Feeling seen. And then the guy got done, and he realized he had an extra one in his hand. He was like, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Everyone pass it to your left. And then handed that one to the last person. And then they all look at their thing, and they're like, you know, we love thinking about ourselves. So if you give me adjectives that you say apply to. Thank you. That's my take on it. And I don't mind that.

That's fine. I like feeling known. People like feeling known. Seen known. And they're like, oh, that is me. Someone gets me. Yeah. You know what I did today?

The moon does. So I don't know. Maybe it's in America now. It's a trend as well. But in Israel, today there's a trend. Just today it started to ask chat GPT or or maybe it happened. in America. I have no idea. Ask Chad GPD to describe you in one word. Did you ever do that? We got to do it right now. Let's do it right now. Thank you. This is fun. We never do real-time challenges.

Okay. Please describe me in one word. Before I hit sent, I just got to tell you this, I had a weird moment already this morning with my chat. Okay. Which is like, I've never told my chat, I'm Dax Shepard. I never told it to my, and he knows I'm me. Right. But I've said, you know, I'm interviewing so-and-so, I had this weird recollection of running into you. You know, it's also murky doing press for 20 years. I'm like, I kind of feel like when I was doing Chips Press, you were maybe doing Justice League press. I just thought that in my mind. So I asked chat, like, have I ever been on a talk show with Gail?

And my chat said, no, but she was promoting blank. So maybe, like this thing I just told you, it came up. But then funnier it goes on to say, but you and Kristen were on the red carpet. with her at the Golden Globes Award in 17. And I'm like, it's so weird that it's saying you and Kristen. I haven't told him I'm her. I hate it. It's just so weird.

Of course it knows. It's very easy. But it just felt weird. It's very weird. All right. So I will now please describe me in one word. I hope it says asshole. Curious or go oriented.

It would never. It's here to please. What? Does everyone get curious? Mine says curious. My mom. My mom. My mother is.

In-law, you're curious, too? Okay, I'm determined, you guys. Oh, really? Okay, so everyone doesn't get curious? This is real time because I was like, I am. My sister was caring. My friend was family-oriented. Another friend was multitasking.

Okay, they've got different. So me and you got curious. But it's probably because you use it a lot because that's what you do. You're curious about people and you're interviewing. You're asking a lot of questions. I am very curious. That's why this show exists. But what else could it conclude?

I only interact with it to, Ask it for questions. I'm determined. So what are your searches generally? What do I search? So I use multiple. I use proplexity if I want to do comparison with other stuff to do more research. Chat is like my Google.

Yeah. I just ask all the questions. And yet, it didn't say I was curious. Yeah. My mom and another friend of mine and my mother-in-law are. So are your questions task related? Like, how do you... Like, how do you get to the objective?

No. They're not. No. Okay. I don't doubt it could know me better than I know myself. If you have comments, you should have your viewers. Yes. Right down there.

And you'll see a lot of them won't be curious or determine. But what if they just say curious if they don't really know us? I don't know if he knows me well. I don't like him. So maybe he's... I'm always suspicious of him. Yeah. That's why I never told him I'm me.

And I got so upset when I realized he knew. Yeah, it should have. Then I would have respected it a little more. I would have respected him. I said, do you know what my job is? I have a pretty good guess, but I don't think you've explicitly told me your exact job title. From everything we've talked about, no. And your pillow chats?

It doesn't want to be intrude. From all of our hangs. I guess you work in podcasting entertainment. With X-CHApper. Particularly on the creative branding and production side with a close connection to armchair expert and Monica Padman. Oh. So it doesn't think I'm her.

It thinks you're Emma. You're a sister. Wait, sorry. This is such a rabbit hole, but how tall am I? I'm going to say, what do you think my name is? Well, ask how tall you. How tall do you think I am? Because our friend Emma who works on the show is, what is Emma, 510?

Yeah, she's very tall. Yeah. I think she's six foot, actually. You're tall, too. I'm 510 and a half. 510. Without. It's really nice.

I'm really jealous. I think you were up at six. six feet with those heels. Yeah. What's the deal with peptides? Are you on peptides? Oh, God, yeah. You are? Oh, yeah. Tell me. You're not. How could you not be? You're so athletic. I'm just athletic because I've always been. We're going to get into why you're athletic because I know. You did. But all the more reason that you would want to know about peptides. I spoke to a few doctors and all of them scared the shit out of me from taking peptides. Well, first of all, there's a petrillion peptides, right? GLP one is a peptide. Right. That's the only one.

that has enough research and all of that. Well, not true, but... GLP1. Yeah, it's not the only one that has enough research. Generally, what's happening, which was the case with the GLP1, is that was a medicine developed for diabetics to regulate A1C, right? So then they discover all these off-label effects of it. And they just can't ignore what they're seeing.

Oh, when we try to treat these people for diabetes, they're also losing weight. Their metabolic health is also improving. The do-da-da-da-da-da-da. So now you can apply this thing you've observed, but many of the peptides are definitely being used off-label for what they were intended to originally treat. So one of them being Tessamorland, right? This was developed for AIDS patients in the 80s.

What they found while people were on this treatment is like, oh, they're losing all their abdominal fat. That's interesting. But it's a crazy safe peptide that's been being used on all these people for a very, very long time. And one of the unintended consequences was reduction in belly fat. So it's not not tested or not. not safe. It hasn't been tested for belly fat reduction, but it has been observed. It has been

used for so many years? Yes, exactly, since 86. Here's the problem. People are conflating two things. Are peptides dangerous or are how people are getting peptides dangerous? The second one, the latter, yes. So dumb, dumb guys on the internet are ordering shit from China for lab use only and they don't know what they're getting and it might not have the actual peptide in it and it might be infected. So unfortunately because that's happening, now it's like, well, peptides are dangerous.

No, crazy shit from China that's intended for lab use is dangerous. It also is if you do too much. I mean, again, anything can be. And I want to be fair, they can be dangerous. So even the test of moreland one, what it does is it tells your pituitary gland

to make more of your own human growth hormone. So you know people take HGH exogenously. That's dangerous. That's dangerous. It is. It is. Not good for cancer and all these reasons. And even if you do have active cancer cells and you increase your own body's HGH, that could be problematic. So you need to get screened. You need to get blood panels every three months. You got to do it with a doctor and be observed. And how often do you do it? Daily. Every day? Yeah, yeah. In injections, right? Wow. This is probably the most transparent I've been about it. I mean, I say I'm on them. You look amazing. Well, thank you. Sorry, not in a second. Like, you know. Get it on. Yeah. He loves to hear that. I'm never appreciate. by women, this is one of my complaints.

Guys all the time are like, bro, what's your diet? I appreciate strong buddies and your body looks very strong. I said it from the first minute they saw you. But I don't think you need any. You're doing great. I'm not going to do any,

at least not at this point. And I'm not where you are as you were like so confident about it and probably you've done much more research than I did. Oh, I have a doctor. You know, I have a hormone doctor. But I'm open to if it's not risky and if it's not dangerous

and if it doesn't feed into cancer. her cells and all these things. At some point when you're perimenopausal or menopausal, you'll explore hormone therapy. It's so impactful. It's crazy women were denied any help in that realm. I was just watching last night a show about it. It's again in Israel. It's a documentary show about this amazing woman who's a journalist in Israel. And the name of the show is, I'm hot, I'm cold. It's because of the heat. And she explored everything. And again, like with peptides, it's amazing to see in the scale there's like the people who are super proet and the people who are also doctors who are extremely against it. And it's all about the cancer and feeding the

cells. And essentially, I think that if you end up doing anything like this, you need to do it the right way and just make sure you check yourself. Do you know Dr. Mary Claire Haver? You should follow her on Instagram. She's kind of like one of the main faces of the menopause treatment. Pause. Yeah. She's like out there, always giving tips. Isn't it amazing how women's health is something that when you compare it to men's health, and I'm not saying it as a bad thing, it's just as a fact, there's so many things that

had never been fully, deeply, thoroughly explored in the same way with men. And you know, the historical explanation for it. Can I take off my show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's round one. We thought maybe we'll get down to our essential. are unmentionables at some point. So step one is great.

The historical explanation is women make terrible research subjects because you have your period. Because throughout the month, you're going to have very dramatic rises and falls in your hormone levels. But is what it is. It is what it is. That's not an excuse to study women, but that was the explanation given. It's like if I take your blood, I'm trying to test you for this one thing, but then 15 days out, I get this weird result. I don't know you're this point. Exactly.

I'm not inventing it. researchers wherever you are if you say that. I'm not defending it. We just had an expert on about fatherhood. I'll tell you when men are not studied is parenting. There's almost no fucking studies on men in parenting. That's a big, big problem. We're locked in these vestigeal, terrible gender things that exclude us from understanding

each other. Slowly, yes. But yeah, also all the medication that applies to women, they've just tested on men. And then it reacts very differently on women. It's like, well, yeah, because you didn't test anything out on us. Yeah. The best is Ambien. That was the one I think that's what caused America to go, hold on, hold on.

Why aren't we testing on women? Because it turns out, you know, Ambien is twice as powerful in women than men. I didn't know that. Still to this day. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So doctors were prescribing the same dose to men and women. Men are like, oh, it's great. I love it.

I fell right to sleep. And then women are like, yeah, I got up and I drove my car or I went to fucking 7-11 and got snacks. And the doctor's like, what are the men doing any of this bonkers behavior? Oh, man. And they're like, women are crazy. It's like, nope, just the medicine. So many different fields in health had been super explored when it came to men and very little exploration when it came to women. I had the, I'm sure you did the research, blah, blah, V-VT, the cerebral venous trombosis in my head when I had a baby.

It's a kind of a stroke. It's a rare stroke. Oh, scary. Only 3% of strokes are these kind, right? I don't know the number. That was my research of you. You know that because you know why? Why?

You're very curious. I'm so curious. But it's basically three of my venuses, Venus, Venus, I don't know, like in the head. Venus? Venus. I don't know. English, by the way, it's going to happen a lot. I love that.

We love that. About it. As long as you understand what I'm saying. Yeah. We're blocked. And it was because of the hormones and because I was pregnant. And it happens. I didn't know it was.

even a thing. And many times what happens is that women get the clots in their brain and then they have the baby. And then soon after the delivery, they get a stroke. Women were not aware of it. I wasn't aware it was a thing for pregnancy. Did they put you on a blood thinner to deal with that? And that's miserable, right? I've had friends on blood thinners and they hate it. It was very bad. And another thing, I feel like my doctor, my neurologist, didn't take me seriously enough. Yeah. Shout out. He's a good guy.

Yeah. I think it's just the attitude of she's a woman. She's just being dramatic. It's just a migraine. Because you were like, I have headaches. Okay. And then if you're black, it's like 3X the data of not being believed for your pain. So it's like there's all these strat.

It's like if you're a woman, you're fucked. And if you're black, we're not going to take anything you say seriously. Yeah. It's horrible. But anyway, I had major headaches throughout my pregnancy. And then the last three weeks of my pregnancy, I was not able to do anything. I was home. In bed, dark, quiet, aced, that's it.

But you're fighting the pain. Now I know I was like in and out of conscience. It felt like a toothache in your brain. And then you pass out. And then ah, but I thought I was fine. So it was already restricting flow. I didn't know. And they checked me and I didn't show any symptoms.

The back of my eye pressure was fine. My blood pressure was fine. And therefore he thought I was just having a migraine until one day my mom was like, enough. Three weeks, you're not doing anything. Go get an MRI. And I asked to get an MRI for so many things. They wouldn't send me. Were they saying they didn't want to give you an MRI because you were pregnant?

I don't know. No, they don't know if it's like an insurance thing. They don't like give an MRI. Yeah. Why? I want my own MRI. I know. Let's go in on one.

Let's share it. We should find like 10 people. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, then they found out. I was almost dead. Oh. Afterwards, my wonderful neurosurgeon who did the operation told me that usually when they see this type of blockage, people are in coma.

Yeah. I was supposed to be in coma. So what was the operation? Trumbectomy. They put like stints in there? How do they? They didn't. They can for any reason and stuff, but that's not what I had.

They go from your crutch all the way your brain. Wow. And they try to take out the clotting. That feels very dangerous. And you were pregnant during this surgery? No. They waited. So I did the MRI.

They called me immediately on the way home. They called me to come to Cedar Sinai. That was amazing. Cedar Sinai, I love you. Shout out of Cedars. They took the baby out. Wow. First thing.

And then they did the operation and put me on blood thinners and everything. That's a big day for your body. This is scary. Delivering a baby in the brain. By the way, just delivering a baby for. woman. It's a bit, again, number-estimated. And I must say that I also was downplaying giving birth. It's fine. I'm back.

It's a shock. It's a huge trauma. It's a trauma. And this was number four. Now, my mother told me they got easier. Did yours not get easier? Obviously, this was compounded by this. Exactly. Yeah. Up until then, I loved giving birth. Okay. Love. Like, I hated being pregnant. Oh, yeah. Yeah, loved delivering.

It was like, oh. Because you felt powerful. Because, first of all, meeting your baby for the first time is something I can't explain. It's like you want to see how they look, how they hear, do you want to smell? The creation of your own and eyes. And they're looking in your eyes and you can tell they're going like, are you who's going to take care of me? And you're like, yeah, I'm going to take care of you. I got you.

I got you. I got you. It's so special. Yeah, it is. Although I was terrified at first time. I bet. So you had the surgery. Oh, my God.

You know, I had a repeated dream when I was down. Did it ever happen to you? Uh-uh. Were you ever under? Like, did they put you under for a surgery? I've been under a dozen times, yeah. For real. He doesn't have fun.

What kind of surgeries are you okay? I race motorcycles, so always broken stuff and ligaments and stuff. You know. No, I don't race motorcycles yet. You walk. I do. I walk. That's my motor transportation.

I froze my eggs. And so they did put me under for that. I did that twice. They don't always put people under, but they did put me. And that was nice. That was a nice little treat. You can see why Mike Jackson wanted to do that night. Like that they called the nap, the anesthesia nap. I was dreaming that I was in a plane and everybody in the plane were standing and like, you know, leaning over each other, trying to see the view of where we're getting. And we were supposed to land on the Golden Bridge, Golden Gate, in San Francisco, the red one. Golden Bridge is a song.

The Golden Gate Bridge, it was clear. Exactly. And there were cars on it. And every time we're about to land, boom, we went back to the start. Weird. Over and over and over. And at one point in the dream, I'm like, I think we're going to start again. I think that's what's happening.

Do you think maybe you asked this, but like, yeah, I've been out a bunch of times, colonoscopies, the surgeries. I don't remember one thing. they hit the plunger and then I'm like waking up. Do you think it's because they were actively in your brain? I think so. I never asked my doctor. I should.

You should because that's very abnormal, I think, for you to have any memory from while you're on. When they're tinkering around and there, you never know. And I remember it to this day vividly. Can I tell you a boring story you won't care about? So the Golden Gate Bridge. Yeah. After the company that built that bridge erected it, they were like, that's a damn good bridge. Let's go try to sell this around the world.

And you know, Lisbon bought one. Lisbon has a golden, it's identical to the Golden Gate Bridge. Same company, yeah. They got down there like, hey, look at this bridge we did in San Francisco. You want one? Yeah, we'll take one. What are they called that? Good on the Portuguese.

The Golden Bridge. They do? No. The Golden Bridge. The gullible is my word. The gullible bridge. Okay, so I'm going to maybe guess that for you delivering was more tolerable because in your childhood and mildly explained by the fact that mom was a phys ed teacher. You swam, you played tennis,

you did volleyball, you were on the cheerleading team for the soccer club, you did hip hop dance, you did ballet. You are curious and with good memory. Thank you. I've been spared that procedure you had thus far. But obviously you've had an entire childhood of learning to endure pain. Once you learn to get through it, it is for me, I'm saying, similar. That stuff doesn't bother me much. It's just not in my... Yeah. Do you think it's part of it? Do you think it's part of it? Wow.

Yeah. When you're very physical, you have more tolerance to pain and being pushed. Was all of this motivated by yourself, all this physical activity? Or was mother going, let's go? Both. I was born very active. Still to this day, I can't just sit and do nothing. My body gets aggravated.

And my mom, it was like I finished school. I finished my homework. Take a boy. and go out and play. There's no hours and hours and hours of EV and stuff. And what kind of engineer was dad? Medicine, science. For example, he worked in this, how do you call it?

It's like a pill that has multiple cameras that you swallow before you go to do colonoscopy. Oh, wow. And it films your whole digestive track on its way out? Yeah. Cool. So he's like a bio-engineer or biomechanical? But he also worked in like satellite. He's like in charge of all the brain.

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Okay. Now we're getting somewhere. So this other thing that's pretty well known about engineers, too, is like their bedside manner's not great. It's like, no, no, that doesn't work, period. Like, I see that that doesn't work. They have no problem with that. Coupled with, we had this incredible expert on years. years ago, probably six years ago, that wrote a book about disagreeability across cultures.

And you know who the most disagreeable people on the planet are? Engineers? Israelis. Oh, Israelis. This is not a negative thing. This is like, will challenge authority, no fear to object. It's all because of the Bible. Every Friday, every Shabbat, you used to get together and pepper over the story, the

parasha of this week's Bible story. And what? You're encouraged to challenge it and debate it? Bating over the Shabbat table. Okay, great. So when I combine the highest disagreeability culture with also an engineer, what was it like to interact with him? He's a softie.

He's a girl's dad. Oh, he is. Well, you were texting him this morning about chat GPT. Exactly. I was like, check what you are. My mom was like, oh, my God, he knows me so well. I'm curious. And my dad is like, I'm thorough.

My dad, he was the breadwinner and worked morning tonight. and very loving. What happened when you became emotional? How did he handle that? Did he walk out of the room? Was he like, er, er, uh-oh, emotions? I think that now when he's older, he's embracing his emotions much more than ever

than my mom than anybody. This is all of us, man. He wants to talk about emotions. He wants to cry a little bit. Yeah. He wants to talk about his challenges, if he's feeling anything. That's great.

It's incredible. We were just talking about this with the guest yesterday. I think women and men are on this opposite trajectory. It's like when I met Kristen, she cried every couple hours. I hadn't cried in 20 years. And now she rarely ever cries and I cry every 20 minutes. And I'm like, what is an interesting trajectory? And I noticed that's pretty...

It is the hormone. It's pretty consistent among the people I know. Well, at some point, the men, I think it's when you have children, something pops open and then the pipe has been clogged for 400 years. I also think you're so busy with... building your careers and building your homes and providing and this and that. And all of a sudden I think there is a point where the children get older that you start feeling we're not here forever. And actually we're asking ourselves, what's the most important thing in life?

It's making you feel emotional. And I think that if you're smart and wise and have good emotional intelligence, then you connect to your feelings at one point. Now you have the time. You're not in the race. Yeah, I'm like, oh, good, I did it. I climbed the mountain. Yeah. That's over. I don't have to be tough and strong. Exactly. I proved what I needed to prove to whoever it is. What I missed. Oh, everything. All these emotions. Okay, great. Bring them all in. Bring them all in right now. Yeah. Okay. I have one bone to pick with you. Okay. So as the lore goes, you're in high school, you're doing all these incredible things, athletic, people had at different times suggested perhaps you should model, right?

And you were not interested in that. And instead, when you graduate high school, you got a job at Burger King. This sounds so American, right? You think about like someone's in Israel. Through high school, I worked in Burger King's here. Do they have the chicken sandwich there? I love the whopper, the garlic whopper. Garlic whopper?

We don't have the garlic whopper. We don't know. We're too agreeable for garlic. We have the chicken sandwich. It comes in a rectangle. I don't know if they have that in Israel, but here. With the proprietary Burger King mayonnaise. It's so good.

It's so oily. I love it. Okay, so you're working at Burger King. Now, here's my grievance, because I have heard this same story from probably five guests. And at this point, I'm like, I'm a little suspicious of it. So it's that you didn't want anything to do with modeling, but mom and a friend submitted you to the Miss Israel pageant. It's true.

I just think it's very interesting that of all these people I've interviewed, that are all pageant winners, none of them submitted them. themselves. Who was it? Prianca Chopra was one, I think. So was Jenny Garth? I think she accidentally got herself on the podium at a pageant before you defend yourself. Would it be okay if you wanted to be in a pageant at 18? Yeah, in Israel. In my days, it used to be a big deal. Now I think they canceled it. They have a bad track record for the abuse. Pagents in general, right? The man have made it terrible. But not in Israel. It just became out of... Passe. Yeah. It's whatever. No one cares. But in my days, I was thinking to myself, all right, I'll go.

and I'll get to tell my grandchildren that grandma competed in Miss Israel. It was like royal. Yeah. 2004. 2004. You're amazing. Okay. And then...

You went to Miss Universe. I went to Miss Universe. You won a Citron for winning Miss Israel. I want a Citron in C5. Yeah. A little car, a little French car. Oh. How fun is it to win a car when you're 18?

And I sold it. You know what I did? I sold it. I drove it for three months. And then I was like, I don't need a car. I'll take my parents' cars. They had a car for me. And I'm going to play with the money a little bit.

And I sold it for 80,000 shekels. Nice. What is that in Peruvian? Last 10, 30. Yeah, it's nothing. But it was amazing. And then I went to Miss Universe, yeah. Which was in Ecuador.

Ecuador, yes. As a Follah, Ecuadorian. What was the experience like? I was so fearful. I'm going to win again because I never tried or wanted to win the Miss Israel pageant. And I was like, oh my God, I'm going to win this. No. But they wanted you to put on a cocktail dress that you weren't having that or something. No, and I was smoking everywhere, not giving a care in the world.

You weren't grateful enough to be there for them to give you the win. Who won that year? What country won, you know? Australia, I think. Oh, good for that. I think. She was amazing. I bet. You know what the thing is? You go to the Miss Universe.

pageant, you don't have a name anymore. I was Miss Israel. Oh, sure. It's kind of convenient. I was with Miss Norway in the room and we were best friends with Miss This and That. Wow. Oh, tell me about Miss Norway because they too culturally have some fun stuff going on. Really? Was she wild? She was amazing. Okay. You're not going to say wild. No. She wasn't wild. No one was probably wild at Miss Universe. It goes like this. So the South Americans, they are the most experienced. super poised, they're there to win. Yeah. The European ones, they're very mellow, no drama.

There's the Asian girls who were great to. There wasn't much drama. I was not making drama, but I was the rebellion. Compendant. Competitor? Yeah. Contestant. Thank you.

Okay, so you left that. And then you pretty then immediately start your conscription, right? You're mandatory to your military services. That's right on the heels. I went there. I came back to Israel. The fame of being Miss Israel was too much for me. So I went to do some modeling in Milano for three months. Then had to come back and do my service in the military. Really quick. How was that three months in Milan? Wild. I bet it was so fun. Was it so fun?

It was amazing. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how my parents let me. I was 18 by myself in Milan. Were you living with other models like I was living with more models? Ms. Guam, Ms. Mongolia, a lot of Russian, a lot of Ukraine, a lot of, you know, girls from everywhere. Is that what the primary ethnicity was at the time in modeling in 2004? Was there a lot of Eastern Europeans? With me, yes. There was a lot of Eastern Europeans. They were from everywhere.

But yes. Can we go back for one second? I want to ask why you were afraid to win? Because it felt the responsibility. Okay. You weren't like feeling fraudulent. The fame. I was like a girl.

I was a dancer, an athlete. I think this is part of the reason people want to distance themselves from it is it's fun to do for a minute. But it probably didn't feel terribly substantive to you. What is substantive? Meaning in athletics, I set this goal. I have times. I reach for it. I work very, very hard.

It's objective. There's a timer. I take this test. I did this number. This is like a very subjective. Yeah. You don't look great in heels. So all about how you look and it's very superficial.

And you were probably desiring something a little more concrete. Who worry you? I guess that's the question. But I was enjoying it. Don't get me wrong. I was like enjoying both words. I was looking down at it. Yeah.

Looking down your nose at it and enjoying it. And enjoying it. You can feel above it and participate in it. Yeah, but you're definitely not going to win if that's how you look at it. You have to respect it. No, they're kicking you to the curve. No, I didn't. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. So then you start your military service. So because of this great athletic background of yours, you become a trainer in the military. And then you learn Krav Maga. And I'm just am curious if you can tell me the history of Krav Maga. Is it pulling from other martial arts? What I remember is using your surroundings against your attacker.

So if there's stones, if there's sand, they teach you where to hit first. Pretty simple. Okay. If I know it correctly, the ethos of it is it's all about real world combat. Not in a ring, not on a mat, not at a contest. It's like, okay, when you're in the shit in real life, let's look around. What can we utilize? Exactly.

Although we did it in a very contained space on mattresses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be fun if they had like foam training rocks and foam brew sticks. Yeah, like logs. Fong tea kettle. Then this really interesting thing happens that if it doesn't happen, you and I never meet in our life, right? Your life is on a completely different trajectory, which is somehow, well, not somehow, and I want the explanation.

You end up in Maxim while you're still in the military, right? Yeah. How did that come about? Maxim Magazine, for people don't remember who are not my age, it was a men's magazine with beautiful girls in it. Yeah. Israel decided to promote Israel through the beautiful women that go to the IDF, and therefore, let's put them on Maxim Magazine. And I was one of the women, and then I was invited to the gala. Oh, and I went with my husband back then was trying to think if we were married already.

No. You met in 06, right? In 06, yes. Yeah, okay. That's amazing. You remember this about every one you interview? Yeah, it's the goal. And then you forget?

The goal, no, unfortunately, I remember quite a bit of it. Wow, that's really impressive. Very impressive. The goal to let you in on my game I play is the goal is to never look at this piece of paper. Okay. So you were asking about Maxim. I don't think that Maxim was the thing that changed the trajectory. This Maxim spread ended up on the cover of the New York Post.

And there was controversy within the country of whether the tourism board should have. I do nothing and I feel like controversy chases me wherever I fucking go. And if you have any tips on how to do sage, I try different stuff, it always follows. So we come to the gala, we go to sleep, we wake up. cover. And I know there's like this controversy going on in Israel. Different ministers are starting to argue whether or not it's the right thing to do to promote Israel. Crazy stuff. All I did was being paid 500 bucks to do the photo shoot. And now I'm invited to this thing in New York and I'm 21. I wake up and the ambassador is calling me in New York and he's like, listen,

there's been a thing, go downstairs. It's when you still can buy the news. at the corner of each go get the New York Post. You're on the cover on the New York Post. And CNN wants to interview you and folks news and NBC News. Oh, my God. I'm like looking at my husband,

Iran, and I'm like, what do I? And Iran is like, we ride the wave. The ambassador said. Your name means. Your name means wave. Wave. Right. We write the wave.

So we go and I do all these interviews. My English is nowhere where it is now. Gail became fluent in English by watching Seinfeld and... Friends. You got a girl. I know. That's why I connect with you. That's why I understand you so well.

Are we the same way? I'm about to be 39. Amazing. Yeah, we're same generation, 41. Yes. Amazing. When's your birthday? Monday, August 24th.

Rosato. Congratulations. Thank you. Okay, 39. 40s, the big one. I know it's coming up. So your English is rough. My English is rough.

I do the thing. it's so bad to a point where Wolf Blitzer is interviewing me and Yaron was standing next to the camera man and I'm like Yaron how do you say this in English? And then Yaron is like no you don't look at me. Never ever did he ever go inside a place so I don't ask him.

That life right? You imagine someone's starting to speak a different language while interview, never. And that was how I started my public wife. Yeah. Are they asking you specifically about the controversy?

Are they just like, who are you? I remember I had two agendas. One agendas. Two like talking goals. One is I'm not going to get into this silly argument. I'm just going to acknowledge everyone can have their own opinion. That's it. And the other one was I invite everybody to come to Israel and La-Dida.

Because it's crazy what people think about Israel. They think we're like riding camels and everything is deserts and people walk around with M16, which is not the case whatsoever. We ride donkeys and we carry M4s. No, you're more chic. You're like cowboys, you know, you heard cattels and you do the things. But I was like, I invite you all to come to Israel. It's great. It's so much fun.

Like a 20-year-old girl would. Representing your country. Yeah. What do you do? Okay. You get out of the military after two years, and then this is also comedic. You go to college and university and you're going to do medicine because primarily Allie McBeal. Not medicine. Law.

Oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. Law. I didn't watch Allie McBeal. Okay. You've just found the crack in my knowledge. If she watched Gray's Anatomy, it would have been medicine. Yeah, exactly. You were thinking Grayson.

I'm so sorry. So you wanted to do law because of Allie McBeal. And at this point, I said to myself in the research, this bitch loves TV. I do too. I'm with you. Very influenced, very easy to influence. Listen. First off, my whole idea back then was not really to be.

I feel like it's something you say on interviews. Yeah, I love Dali McBerbable. But I think, first of all, I wanted to be so many things. I wanted to be a chemist, like in the pharmacy. Yeah. Which is weird to me. Why would I ever? Okay.

I wanted to be a choreographer. That's okay. I understand that. And obvious. He did 12 years of dance. Then, after all, my. My dad is an engineer. My mom's a teacher. I needed to have a proper job.

So I was like, okay, it's either medicine, which I'm not smart enough for, or law, which I don't like to argue and I don't like conflicts. But I was thinking about, I don't even know how to say it in English. Like when you do diplomacy and you know the law and all of these things, I was like, I'll go there. Never happened. So there is a casting director in law. London, who somehow comes across your modeling card.

Correct. And decides to have you audition for Quantum Solace, the James Bond movie, which is a crazy thing to happen. Very random. It's very random. And I did not want to go. She went to the agency and she was looking for girls because she was looking for the Bond girls.

And she saw my card and she was probably thinking, oh, maybe she can be right for it. And she asked to see me for an audition, which I wasn't planning on going. And then my agent called me and I was in school. I was in university. And he called me and he said, where are you? She's waiting. You should go. I was like, I'm not going to go.

I'm not an actress. And it's all in English and blah, blah, blah. Go. So I walk inside and I had a lamare. Do you know, Lamar? I love it. A lamare lip balm. I put the lamare and I'm like, I'm so sorry.

I'm laid. And she's like, oh, my God, my lips are so. Do you mind if I use it? And I'm like, yeah, keep it. Oh, my. Oh. Oh. That's generous.

For people who have never bought Lamar, it's a very pricey. It's my lips, her lips. We just met too much information. I agree. It's like sharing a toothbrush. Exactly. You can keep my toothbrush. Crazy thing of her to ask.

Well. Because if it's the pot, which it's the pot, right? Yeah, it's your fingers all in it. But I almost feel that if it was the lipstick, it's more worse. Yeah. That's like sharing a condom. It takes with their name. You know.

But anyway, I give her the very expensive lip balm. That might have been the reason. And to this day, I think, that my kindness led my way. Because she did not get that role. Right. No. However. Years later.

Say it. Say it, say it, Dex. This woman who was gifted a very expensive topical. The lips were now beautiful and perfect, not chap. Urged Universal to meet Gail for Fast and Furious. Crazy. To this day, I'm so grateful for this woman. Yeah, unreal. And you put yourself on tape or somehow you get an audition that is sent to Los Angeles. And then based on that, they like you enough that they say come to L.A. and have a, and this is in quotes, a personal meeting with Vindiesel.

No, a test, like a camera test. Oh, it's a camera test. That sounds much better than the words I read. No, no, no. Have a personal meeting with Vindisels. And we went to a hotel suite. No, my. It was hot. Just a chemistry. It was just a test. Camera test.

Great, great, great. Do you know how many finalists there were? How many people were tested? Bunch. What clicked? Why did that work? I don't know. I had good chemistry with them.

Were you nervous? Did you want the job or are you kind of like take or leave it? No. I wanted the job. I came here. I remember I had to go back to it. I came for like a night morning and then I left. Wow.

I don't know. I was really. ready. So I came very prepared. So I did a good addition. And I had good chemistry with all of them, with the director. Okay. So you end up in Fast and Furious. That was the fourth one was the first one you did? And so at that time, what are your thoughts about the future? Like you're in this enormous franchise. I have two parents who are like, you need to go back to school to get a job. You need to get a real job. This is temporary. This is a phase. And I had an incredible, I have an incredible husband. who was like, this is the lighter side of life.

Just let's enjoy it. It's okay. He was the dreamer and I'm, you know. That's what I think I picked up the tension in your life a little bit as I learned about you. It's like this reluctance to be in the pageant and this perhaps reservation about doing this thing. And it feels like it's the tension of having parents that were professional. And perhaps your fear that they would think what you were doing was vapid and pointless. I think I need to lay down on it.

So fine. I think there's something there. And I think it's also when you start a career in such a young age, and it's not like medicine. You're not a doctor with a goal. And I never knew being an actress was an option. And it goes against my sign. I'm a tourist.

I like stability. I like to know what's going on. You're a tourist through and through. Torres with a tourist horizon in the ox year. Ooh. Wow. That's where it gets tricky. And I must say I'm not stubborn at all.

I'm very open. Yeah, because they aren't tourists. I'm like tourists in other ways. But anyway, let's go back to subject. You're flexible. But it was all new to me. It was going a lot against my personality because it's a lot of traveling, a lot of uncertainty. Nothing is up to me.

Yeah. I'm not in control of anything. Yeah, powerless. And it's hard. And I don't like it. And sometimes I get roles and you do all these auditions and it's awful. I would say now there's this murky gap between that. extraordinarily auspicious thing, getting in Fast and Furious.

And then Wonder Woman. Tell me about those years. I imagine it felt like there was security on the table. And then the next month you'd be like, no, that was it. No, but it's different phases. So I did fast four, five, and six. They killed me on seven. It was such a hilarious way when the directors called me.

But Justin Lin called me one day and he's like, listen, I'm going to send you the script. On this one, we're going to have to deal with your death. And I'm like, she's deaf? And he's like, no, no. Deaf, deaf. I'm like, yeah, I hear you. She lost her hearing. I can't learn sign language.

Die, die. Die. You're going to die. Oh, no. I was like, oh. There will be no fast eight for you. That, that. That, finito da Comedia.

Did you take it personally? No. I was bombed. Yeah. Because it was a great. Fast and Furious is crazy. It's like a community. The casts are huge. There's so many of us. And within the years, 25 years, everybody loves each other and everybody knows each other, the good parts and the last good, but everybody love each other. And I was sad not to be part of this community anymore. After Fest and Furious, when we came here, I did so many additions.

We came for the premiere of the last fast before they killed me. supposedly I'm back. I did the eighth one. Yeah, he came on a cameo. Come on, it's fast and fierce. They resurrected me. Yeah, exactly. So around there, I come and I do so many auditions and a callback and a match and I don't get it.

And another one and I called back and I'm a and I don't get it. And I had a two-year-old daughter by then. And Iran had like a hotel and real estate and stuff. And I told Iran, I don't think I can do it anymore. It's like, fuck it. It's too much rejection. Why? I'll go back to school or I'll be a sculpture.

Then I wanted to be a sculpture. Thank you. Sculptor's the product. I know. No, I thought about it. I thought about it. Monica, that was why there's a long delay. I didn't correct her immediately.

You're the best and I appreciate you so much. I wanted everyone to know you don't mean that you want to be a statue. I did see the meme. I did already see the meme. Yes, I just wanted to help everyone. No, you corrected me once too. Please always correct me. I just.

Let me tell you what happened to me this weekend. So I'm having friends over for brunch. And I'm cooking and we talk and we talk. And then I go, yeah, well, you know, it's like it's water across the bridge. And then they go under. Yeah. But for years I've been saying across the bridge, no one said anything. I speak to my friend Melissa here.

And I go, you know, but we need to think about the objective. And in the back door, I'm translating from Hebrew. Sure. In the back door, I just feel. And then my husband, who was on the call, he's like, God, in the back door. You don't want to get your objective through back door is more like anal. Maybe you do.

That's okay. That's true. I don't ashamed anyone. Yeah, no, it's fine. It just was completely translated from Hebrew. So thank you. Always feel free to correct me. I'm always learning.

Oh, I only felt important in that moment because I know. I thought it was sweet. Maybe she didn't want to be a sculpture. Well, that's why we needed to correct it. And that's also cool. I don't know. We need to know. Okay, so you wanted to be a sculptor potentially.

Sculptor. Sculptor. Sculptor. It's hard. It's a hard word. One day. On your deathbed, you'll say the perfect English sounds. One of our best friends is from Venezuela and I'm around her all the time.

And so we do run into this often. and I'm always deciding, like, what does she need to be corrected on? What does she not? Just not to stop the flow of the conversation. No, I get that. But that was a good thing. I always wanted to be a sculpture. To be a liar, you know.

Honestly, I do want to be a sculpture. I know. It would be great. They got to be worthy of a sculpture. And then I told Iran, let's just stop it. And then I did the audition for Wonder Woman. And just to remind people, so first was Batman v. Superman and Wonder Woman was going to make her first appearance in it. So at the moment, it's not like we're thinking you're...

They wanted to test the water. Yeah. And you're not necessarily at that moment thinking, I'm auditioning to be in a Wonder Woman only movie. No, you didn't know what you were auditioning for. It was like a secret. They didn't tell you. They gave me a scene that only later I realized was an Uma Thurman's scene from... Paul Fiction.

Yeah. Oh, wow. But then finally, when they called me to do the test with Ben, then the director called me and he said, I don't know if you have it in Israel, but did you ever hear about Wonder Woman? You're like, bitch, I watch all the TVs. Have I ever? Have I ever. I know. Ellie McBeal.

Exactly. Friends. She Seinfeld. Yes. We skip one thing and I only want to plant a seat because I'm going to bring it up later. but you also after the first fest, you did night and day, Tom Cruise movie, and you're in a scene with Tom Cruise. An incredible man.

Yeah, tell me about the experience. I flew to Vienna to do the scene. I had, I think it was one night of work with him. And he was the most wonderful, and they changed the scene completely. So you come, you learned all your lines, and now with my English, they completely scratched that. Oopsies. And somehow I figured it out.

And we did this scene together and it was an incredible experience. And we had a lot of waiting to do like you have when you shoot a movie. And he was talking to me a lot about my grandfather was a Holocaust survivor. And Tom did. Oh, Valkyrie? Was it Valkyri? I wanted to say that. I think so.

I think so. Yeah, you're right. And he was like so curious about my family. in my heritage. And years later, after I did Wonder Woman, we met in his house with another director and producer, no, real reminisce on the days. No, but another producer and director, and he opened the door and he greeted me and I didn't even think he would remember who I am. So I introduced myself. And it's like, what are you talking about? We did that. How's your grandfather? Is he still around? That's kind. How amazing. Yes. That people really.

Is he the one that does the cake? Yes. Did you get a cake? Have you gotten a cake from him? Okay, we shouldn't have brought that up. Never mind. Either of we. Either of we.

But we beat that cake. I haven't. He makes cakes. He sends the same cake to everyone. He's most of the people he's worked with. Only some people. Well, I worked with him for one night. Tom, it's fine.

It's okay. Tom, let's get Gal the cake. No, no. It's fine. Gal needs a cake. I need the cake. I don't like cakes. It's fine.

I like chocolate. No, it's a fun thing in Hollywood, and it's like basically in your friendship circle, the goal is to know someone who gets the cake and then to go try it, which I got to do last year. So you don't get the cake? I've never worked with them. I've never even, well, I have met him. Look at him. I'm not supposed to get the cake.

No, I don't deserve it. Yeah, yeah. You should have got the cake. Did you get Vin's, how do you call the house you built from cookies in America? Oh, gingerbread? Gingerbread house? Who gives a gingerbread house? Vin.

Oh, that's his thing. Did you get it? No, I've never worked with him. No. Do you get the gingerbread house? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, the biggest one. I need a house for the house.

They bring it on a mobile home trailer. We should start doing this. We should start sending out something and it's like special. Our guests will get it. You should send like cool chairs. That feels expensive. Yeah, could you do something more in like a $100 rain? I think that the gingerbread is very expensive.

I think the Tom Cruise cake is pricey too. But that sounds great. I think of us trying to. compile the list and get addresses and then I'm out. So wait a second. You didn't try the cake. It was a game night at Liz Bang's house and someone at this party had worked with Tom Cruz enough that they got the cake and they're smart. They know to bring it to the party because everyone wants to try the Tom Cruise cake.

What was it? It's coconut. It's always a coconut cake. With like a vanilla spongy middle. I guess. I've looked up pictures. It's beautiful. I've considered ordering it myself. It's a thing. I'm so out of the loop. It's so hard to immerse in the American. and culture fully.

Well, you're a mother of so many children. You have too too many is the problem. How many kids do you have? Two. Two girls? Two girls. You have four girls, right. Yeah.

How old? 11 and 13. Oh, that's right. That's right. I'll leave it at there because they're their own people. Okay. Well, no, I tell everything that's spectacular about them. Good.

I think that's what we should do. That's right. Oh, so you live it with that. You know, we're entering teenagehood. I know. I know, I know. How old's your oldest? 14 and a half.

Yeah, you know exactly what's happening. I have like a teenage girl, a girl, a toddler, and like a little girl, a little girl and a little girl. It's everywhere. You got a mall. It's amazing. It's exhausting and it's hard too. It's very hard.

They didn't expect it. As soon as you figure them out, they change. Exactly. There's never like a status quo. And every time someone has a different need that you need to adjust everybody to. Yeah. But it's the most rem rewarding and amazing thing. Stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare.

It's funny. My mom always tells me, oh, it's so hard. Like any challenge about life for my mom is like, wow, it's so hard. How do you do it? It's like she relates too much that she feels more suffering than I ever will. Not just the kids, like anything. And I started telling her, Emma, I feel like life. It's a struggle. Every day, it's not comfortable. Life is not convenient. Correct.

It's always like we need to overcome, but then is when you're happy. That's when you get happy. Yeah, when you earn it. Okay, so through the Batman v. Superman, you end up getting your own movie, Wonder Woman, the first one. And Monica, do you remember how much money this fucking movie made? I don't. 862, it opened at $103 million. The estimates were like 65, and this fucking thing was just a juggernaut. You love that. How after these years of frustration did you integrate this new bit of information that was

virtually opposite of your whole ride prior to that? How did you join these two experiences into something cohesive? And how hard or easy was that? I think, like, in life, it builds up, right? You don't leave the jumps. I'm not still stuck in where I was and all the rejection. Now I had to deal with filming a movie and be the little girl that needs to conquer this mountain. And how do I do it?

And it's the first time that I'm doing a movie that is my title and it's so physical and how do I do it and being a mom. And so there was a lot to do throughout the film. We were always pushing. Patty and I were always like, let's change the script. and the studio wouldn't give you the extra money to film it. So you need to film the two versions of the scene all in one day to make sure. So you do all of that. Also, yeah, they had half the budget of normal movie of that kind would have had.

We were like the underdogs. Yeah. Again, going back to women's health awareness and all of that. Let's do a movie for the girls and blah. Exactly. Hopefully it'll break even. Yeah, exactly. Let's see how it's going to.

Let's give them no resources. And Patty and I were like, this is going to be so special. And we need this type of movie and we need this type of. And it's all about love, love, love. We were all from the first time Patty and I met, all we talk about was love and humanity and how do we bring light to the world. And it sounds a little bit like, who the fuck do we think we are, right? But when you're given an opportunity to tell a story that is about something

and you want to say something about something positive, why not? Yeah. Yeah. So we were super invested and then the movie comes out. It was amazing, but I wasn't popping. Okay. To be fair, I was going through a postpartum. I had my second one and she was eight weeks old when we started promoting the movie.

And I had a major back injury. So I was miserable. And then so when the movie opened, I was very happy and I felt satisfied with the success. but I wasn't happy. You didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was some kind of asymmetry between where I was personally in my own life, in my own body, to what the outside world would think about me.

Okay, so that kind of answers what I meant my next question, which is so often I think for many of us who get lucky, it's weirdly hard to be present for it because the lucky event can potentially lead to lots of opportunity, lots of options, lots of shit in the future. It signals, oh, wow, I might now have this future. And so the monkey brain can't resist, thinking of now what's possible because of this one thing.

You often kind of miss the thing. Did you experience that at all? For me, it's not even that necessarily. Well, first of all, the way my mental health works, and it's nothing that I do to control it, I only realize what happened to me in retrospective. So when I'm there, it's too overwhelming. It's too much to grasp and to understand fully.

So I just ride the wave and I understand it clicks, but I'm not feeling it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only in retrospective when I can actually grasp it. Only in retrospective I can grasp on these type of things. I feel like when it happens, it's too overwhelming. You don't have time. It makes me sad, though.

But I think it's a protection mechanism that our mind has because you can lose your mind. Some part of you doesn't trust it. It's very hard to compute what's happening. It's also not about me. It's not about you. Yes, it's my success. It's my face. It's my movie, blah, blah, blah.

But it's not me that they love. It's like this image, this character. A female being a matriarch, which no one gets. to see. No little girls get to see or it's very rare. Yes, I agree with you. And when I say it, I'm talking about not just as the female. It's funny. I'm trying to find the right words to put it, but I think that if you really get it, if you really present in the moment of success because of the ego, it can bring you to places that can be very tricky. You're suggesting that it might be healthier to miss it. Not to miss it completely, but it's like the best food for

ego, right? Yes, yes. And I think, most people think, the ego is the worst enemy a human can have. It can take you out. I think ego's gotten a bad rap, but I know what you're saying. Okay, I'm interested to hear. Yeah, this notion you should be egoless is ridiculous. You need your ego.

You can't be ego. No, and you need to pursue your own. And then you go too far and you learn and you dial it back. But it's a yin and yang and it's a balance. Can I see the ego like this like, yeah, give me yourself. Give me more. Bottomless, insatiable. Yes, exactly. On a very superficial level.

And it is. But there is a percentage of it that is ideal. That makes you a better person. It makes you live up to what the ego tells you you are and all these things. I might be able to do this thing currently. It doesn't seem like I could. That's your ego. And that's good.

Someone stared at Everest and was like, yeah, no one's got to the top of that. I think I could. That's ego. Now if he gets up there, he's like, oh, my God. Now we're in trouble. Exactly. But the ego got you up there. But don't you think a lot of people, I meant a lot of successful people that when I

talk to them about the moment of successful people that when I talk to them about the moment of success, the moment of breakthrough that they've had in their careers, I find that a lot of them were in the same area as I was. They didn't pop the champains and, like, parties and who did it. They had some weird tension going on with it. I had it even more because of the postpartum and because of my back injury. And some would say that it's all one. Yeah, yeah.

It's all part of one thing. Well, yeah, I think it's hard when people are like, you're the greatest, you're the greatest, you're the greatest, and you're you're you don't feel like the greatest. By the way, you're not. And if you feel like you're the greatest, it's a problem. It's a problem. Yeah. So I think being wary of it's wise. Yeah. You got to keep your eye on. You gotta keep, yeah. Okay, let's talk about the runner. Yes. Yes. So I had brought up Tom Cruise because nobody has ever ran in a motion picture as well as Tom Cruise. I'm so obsessed with his running. My children are too. We watch this.

the Mission Impossible movies on repeat. We love them. I love it. And I love that every one of those movies, they're going to build in a sequence where you're going to watch this man run. And sometimes you're going to watch this man run in a one solid wide shot for like two and a half minutes at a sprint. And I'm like, how does this guy not rip his Achilles and his hammies and his everything?

He did. He did. Okay, that's the answer. Yeah. How does he not? He does. Yeah. Okay.

So the premise of the runner is you are a lawyer and you are also a runner and you have this little boy and the little boy's diabetic. When we meet you, you're dropping them off at school and then you're going to go for your run. We can tell immediately this is your half hour of your day. Right. That is bliss. She starts the day. She goes for a run. What's the great song you start with?

Blondie. Blondie. It's so good that when I heard, I was like, fuck, I got to drop back into some blonde. It's so good. So you start running. There's another dude in the park. It annoys me that I can't remember. Rob.

Rob. I'm trying to find out. That's about, I'm about. One way or another? One way. No. No. No.

But that's a too. No. Okay. We're not going to find it. All right. Go on. I think you're going to look at the movie credits. I ain't.

If it's not. They're not there yet. Okay. Okay. So. I love you, Rob. You have a hard job. We're constantly like, how many feet are in a kilometer?

Go. I need it now. Now I say easy we checked. Okay, yeah. Okay, so, yes, you've dropped your kid off. You're going through your run through the park. You know, you're on a call with a client. We learn that you're a lawyer.

And then it's back to Fun Time, and you see another dude who's running. He's fast. And already, at this point in the movie, I'm like, how long is she going to run? Yep. Y'all, she's going to run the entire fucking movie. It's insane. So just in a nutshell, you get then another call. It's coming from your child's phone.

You learn quickly that your son's been abducted by somebody. And now this person is giving the kind of, I would say that things that parallels is on the bus speed, a lock. You're on a phone call. Someone has the leverage. I'm racing time to save my son's life. That's right. And you run through all of London, I'm pretty sure. All of London.

Over six miles. Oh. Of London. And are they like if you stop running, he's dead? I'm not allowed to stop running. I'm not allowed to talk to anybody. I'm not allowed to get on a cab or a tube or anything. I need to run and save my child.

Because there is a legal case she's involved with. We're not going to tell it the whole movie. Yeah, yeah, but I announce that when you start watching it, it's like not a second to take another breath. You're at the edge of your seat. In no particular order. What is the game plan? You go like, okay, you read the script.

Okay, yeah, this is really cool. And then do you even let yourself go like, but how are we going to film this and what will that experience be like? Do you not let yourself even consider that? you like the movie. Okay, so I'll give you the time frame. So I read it after what I happened to me with my fourth baby and almost dying, blah, blah, blah. They did the whole thing. It took me many months to recover. So for months, for the first months, I was just in bed, listening to podcasts, reading a little bit and just resting and walking with shades in the house all the time because I had

migraines all day long. And then I read the script and I think to myself, really fucking good script. I couldn't put it down. It was so good. I read it one go. When it works, it works and you know it. And I speak to my agent and I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this film now. And honestly, I don't even know if Tom Cruise can do this film. I think the running is non-stop. Who can do this film? Is it AI? Who's going to run? 110 pages of running? And she's like, okay, just take the call with Kevin McDonald, the director. Quickly add, he directed one of my very favorite movies of all time, last king of Scotland. Yeah, amazing, talented person. Great, great director.

I take the Zoom with him and I say to myself, I'm not going to start talking about what happened to me in my head. I'm just going to be professional. Let's talk about it. And he's like, so I heard you just said, your baby. I'm like, yeah. And he's like, it gets easier from one pregnancy to the next, no, from one delivery to me.

I was like, oh, not really on this one. He's like, what happened? And I'm like, I had like a thing called CBT, but it's fine now. You had cerebral venous trombosis. Wow. He knew about it. He had it before I did. Whoa.

No way. We call that Sim. No way. Six weeks before I did. Six weeks before. Oh, my goodness. What number child was his? Who was he giving birth?

No, but I was like, there's a migranist stage. Yes, I'm in it. Anyway, we connect on this level. We talk about the script. He tells me his vision. I love it, but I say, listen, I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not there. I'm just recovering.

And he says, well, after talking to you now, I can't imagine anybody else doing this role. How long would you need? And I go nine months, one year. And we hang up. And then he calls me back, I think, within the hour. And he said, the studio is willing to push it for you. Wow. Would you be in?

Are you in? Wow. And then I said, yeah. And you know what else is crazy? All the neurologists that I went to see after what happened to me told me you need to break sweat at least half an hour a day. If there's one thing I hate is running. Hate.

Oh, really? And I'm also spiritual a little bit. I was like, this is the universe. Yep. Giving me exactly what I need, a director that will understand what I've been through. Breaking sweat like there's no tomorrow. What can be better than that? So a couple of months later, they brought me the most amazing trainers.

And were they specifically like running coaches from? The first one, Malachi was for running. And was that person like a collegiate coach or something for running? He trains the U.S. Olympic. Oh, there we go. Incredible. And I worked with him every day for months. And was he a sprinting coach or a long distance coach?

Sprinting, but I ran long distance. Yeah, so my question was I had a sprinting incident on my birthday this year. Are you a runner? Well, I'm born on January 2nd. My New Year's resolution was, okay, I got to do sprints twice a week. That was your New Year's resolution. You've got to do sprints? Twice a week, yeah.

Your life is in a really good place. Absolutely. I'm down to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. What a privilege that that was my new year's amazing. Anyways, first run out. I happened to do with a bunch of people.

We got a little competitive. My friend blew out of butt cheek. I fucked up my foot. And then I was like, okay, I got to learn what the pre-sprint warm-up is. And then I asked chat. And dude, it's lengthy. He's fucking swing this way. I mean, of course, it's hard on your body. Sprinting is very hard. Super hard. I know. It's hard. Like my husband say, don't try. I don't know. How old are you? 51. My husband, he always said, never pick up a new sports after 50.

Yeah, I think that's fair and smart. Yeah. I mean, I had sprinted before. Anyways, was there an insane warm up before you would do takes? Yeah. I'm an impatient. in person. So that part of the process would be very hard for me. Like, okay, I'm about to do the scene. I'm going to do 20 minutes of warm up. No, not like that. Okay, okay. But it would be in like seven minutes. Now I need to do some cycling. Then I need to do some stretching. Then I need to do this. And then I go. But I finished the film on crotches. Oh, my next question was, did you get hurt? How many times did you get hurt? I got hurt multiple times throughout the film. The character had a watch. And I connected the watch to my phone so I can see my steps and everything. I had weeks where I had like 150 something thousand

steps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was nonstop and there's no time to recover. You don't sleep well because you film all the time. You work in the cold, in the heat, whatever. And when people watch this movie and they're like, wow, that was a really long sprint. I don't think I could sprint that long. You must remember that was one of eight takes before the fucking extras crossed at the right time. It was a whole thing, but I had like stress fractures in my feet. I bet. And I'm an ugly runner. No, I was just about to make the opposite statement.

No, because we know how to film it. Okay. I run beautifully until my knees. Knees down. What happens? Phoebe from friends. No. I'm telling you.

Her whole body is spoiling. No, she does it. That's all in control. But knees. But what do you mean? There's not much to the knee down. You mean the feet? Well, you'll be surprised.

Okay. I kind of want to see it. I kick them out. I kick them out. Oh, because that would probably hurt your feet. Okay. So we want to do heel toe next time. Just reminding people about it.

No, heel toe. I did heel toe and everything. It's just the way. Did you have days where you, you know, you've got your 6 a.m. pickup or whatever. You have longer hair and makeup is probably 5 a.m. Did you have any days where you woke up and you're like, oh, yeah, not a chance. we can shoot that scene today. Never, ever, ever happened to me in my entire career. Even on this movie?

I trust the people that I work with. I know that everyone that are going to show up are going to show up, and I need to deliver. Wow. Okay. But if I have these type of moments, even then, I was about to say unless I'm like super sick. But even then I... Any cortisone shots and joints or feet during the filming? Were they having to work on you like a boxer?

Yeah. They worked on me every day, every other day. Yeah. It was insane. That's the athlete in you. You're going to keep pushing. You're just going to show up and do it. Yeah, even on crutches.

By the way, when I was on crutches, we filmed patter shots. I'm envious of you to have this movie in your life when you're older and your girls are grown up. And like, just the physical fucking test you passed. But I knew it was a gift. It wasn't like, oh, fuck, how I'm going to do it? It was like, shit, I'm going to learn how to run. Oh, my God. But you did it.

It's like, it's an accomplice. in and of itself, which I hope is rewarding to you. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have something, period. You'll walk away with something period, which is rare. Forever. That's right.

Well, Gail, this was a delight. It was so much. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. It was great. Okay, good. They're all like this. I'll always remember you guys. They're all like this.

So just say yes to all. They're all like this. It's a lot of fun. Thank you so much. Yeah, so interesting. Watch the runner on Amazon Prime, September. Second. Second, second, second.

September 2nd, September 2nd, September 2nd. Okay, The Runner, Amazon Prime, September 2nd. Thank you so much for coming. This was fun. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. He is an armchair expert, but he makes mistakes all the time.

Thank God Monica's here. She's got to let them have the facts. I want to start with revisiting my hemorrhite thing. Okay. I've done a bit more of an autopsy on it on what I think actually happened. Because I think when we talked about it, I kind of blamed. named Hannis, if you recall. That's what precluded, preluded it.

And I know actually what happened. I'm so used to having the brondel, the sprayer. And here I had this hannis on the road, and I was doing a ton of wiping. And I'm out of practice wiping without the bundle. And I go too hard and too frequent because it just doesn't, because I'm so used to be able to clean, clean. And I realized that's what caused it. So I'm back kind of on the toilet, spending more time again on Instagram and stuff because I've decided it was definitely more about the white.

I think is what it was. Okay. Good luck to you. I believe it. You now have one, right? I had one. Not a hemroy flow. That's what I thought as well.

A brundle. Like you have a, you have a flushy or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have now in every bathroom. Yeah, and it changes your life, right? It's, yeah, you're pampered. You are. Yeah.

You take way less abuse down there. Yeah. Yeah. You can get the job done way less. Yeah, well, report back on if you get another one. Okay. Next time you're on the road. It won't be.

It's going to be because he's on the toilet for a long time. He does spend a few minutes down there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Some me time. I just read a comment the other day that said, I know you're reading on the toilet,

get off. And I wrote on there, busted. When else am I going to do it? I'm not looking at Instagram unless I'm on the toilet. Yeah, that's true. Speaking of things, people have said, a lot of people asked if Jack McBrayer texted me on my birthday. He did not. I'm very sorry.

So I just need to make that known. Did you text Kekner? No, he texts me. But he didn't. We haven't, we actually haven't done that in a few years. You haven't celebrated a birthday buddy stand as a man. No, but I wish, I wish him. You share with Victor?

Yeah. And he used to text me on my birthday because we were birthday buddies. It was very sweet. Yeah. So I guess I didn't make the cut for Jack. And he can try again next year. Okay. This is a, formal heads up to him.

August 24. Big one next year. If ever there was a. time to start sending the text. It's next birthday. True. So you know, my birthday, I went to a really good restaurant. I was just about to ask.

How was your birthday dinner? It was incredible. It's called River. It's in Venice. Highly recommend. It was so good. And there were some arm cherries working. Oh, no kidding.

Yeah. And so they brought over a special treat, treat. What was it? An Apertivo. That's a cocktail? It's like an after-dinner drink. Okay. An apertief?

Yeah, I think it's an apertief. Yeah, not an aperitivo. Oh, I thought the actual name of the drink was Apertivo, like a spinoff of Apertief. No, I was saying. Is it Aparol in it or is it some kind of apricot? I don't think it has Aparol in it. Or Teef. Apertiefs have different ones.

It was like Furnette, ding, ding, ding, when we had Burt Kreischer on, we gave each other drinks to drink. Yes. And he wanted me to drink Furnet. that's an after-dinner drink an amortive. Okay. They're all interesting. They kind of have like a licorice. They taste kind of weird.

I think they're meant to like... Syrupy. Did they coat? A little. I think they're meant to like cleanse your palate. Grambouet? Brambouille. Bram-Marnier.

Dram-Muie? Bram-Bouie. Yeah, people only drink it after their... Or Grand Marnet. Grand Marnier is something, but I don't know if that's appertive. That's in like... You know, I carry drambuie when I had the barque. I don't have a clue what it is.

Well, you've ever tasted it? You would never have it as a cocktail, or I would have never. How do you spell it? If they're a sponsor, I'll be happy to. D-R-A-M-B-U-I, I think. Okay. It's liqueur. Liqueur.

Golden color. 40% ABV liqueur made from Scotch, whiskey, Heather, honey, herbs, and spices. See, that's an appertee for sure. Yeah, definitely. That's a dessert. No wonder. I never. Yeah.

Served it or tried. That makes me think you're declaring this is my last drink of the night, which I would never have done. It might have been, though, it might be like Grand Marnier where you like cook with it or something. I'm not seeing the word appertif anywhere on this Wikipedia. Could you ask it when it's normally drank? It's a brand. Wait. See, brandy's an after dinner drink for sure.

But appratertief is not all, all after dinner drinks are not appurteeat. But all apertiefs are after-dinner drinks. Are there different types of cigars that are for after dinner? Probably. Right? With your brandy. And appertive translates directly into English as a pre-dinner alcoholic drink meant to stimulate appetite. Oh, that makes sense because Apertivo is pre-dinner.

There we go. But there's it, but no, sorry. So there's appertifs and de jestiefs. And those are for after. Okay, so which one is dramboui? It's neither. No, no, it says it's traditionally a digestif. Okay, traditionally a dejustive.

Yeah, Trambouy. Look, I've been at a million meals where people order that after. Dremboe. Yeah, I think my father even would bang the drambuil. I had a bottle, and I don't remember ever serving once in seven years. Of course, and I ate that bar? No one came to that bar to have the last drink of the night. Yeah.

No one had eaten. I would have punched him in the face if they asked me for a dime. Get out of here. We have that as a test. It's also used in classic cocktails, rusty nail. Oh. That was my dad's drink. Yes, it was.

Okay. So that's just a cocktail. That's not a DJ's deep. Then a Bobby Burns. That sounds good. Yeah. Bodies are fun. That's a scotch, sweet, vermouth, drambu.

I can't even say it. That sounds so stupid. Turnbuy. Yeah. And bitters. Yeah, drambuys really bumping for you, I can tell. It sounds like something, a word you completely made up. It sounds like baby talk.

Yeah, it does. What do you want? My drambouy? Your butt, your what? Your dark bottle? Dark blanket? Yeah. Well, so it was a tremendous meal for you.

What were the entrees? What did you? Oh, my God, we got so much stuff because it's in Venice, notoriously very far away from my home. So. Time wise. Time wise. Not at all far. Notically.

That's true. Yeah. But so we are not going to go that often. Plus, it's very hard to get in. So I don't, so we had to kind of get everything we wanted. Eat the whole menu because it's one and done maybe. Yeah. So we got, we each got a hand roll, different ones.

We each got, no, those were the eaches. And we got this like kind of fried chicken thing. Oh, oh. Oh, I love fried chicken. I love. Waggo skewers. Come on. Yes.

A rice. What? Leftover? I think there was a few leftovers that obviously just took home. There was a rice, like kind of a fried rice, and I had sweet corn, and it was delicious. We got a ramen. That was amazing. What else do we get?

I'm missing like a big section, I think. A lot of vegetables, an eggplant dish, a sweet potato dish. A something. You traditionally like eggplant. I do love eggplant. You like eggplant. I love egg plant. Okay.

I mean. I think it's a big mush. Well, if you're just boiling it, yeah. But if you are creating a yummy eggplant dish, it's good. I think that sounds delicious. I can't remember last time I have it. It's surrounded by a skin you can't even chew. That's where I like it in my Thai food.

Yeah. Egg plant? Exactly. Oh, wow. Yeah. If you're just cooking it, Not willy-nilly. Like an eggplant steak.

Yeah. If you're just boiling, it sounds like you're just boiling it. I've never prepared eggplant. I've just taken a bite of eggplant parmesan. I'm like, Oh, I love eggplant. It's mush with this ring around it that's hard to chew. Probably prefer chicken parm, but.

Well, yeah. That's my issue. When I've been next to people that order the eggplant parm, they're not vegetarian. I'm like, they have chicken porn. It's not like they don't. I had it at Little Dom's on Sunday eggplant parm. Over a chicken parm. I think I'd order both and eat the eggplant on top of the chicken maybe.

That would be a move. Eggplant parm to me is almost more lasagna-ish than it is chicken parm. Okay. All right. Because it's often stacked if it's done correctly. Speaking of leftover, so you had a girl's only birthday party on Sunday. It really wasn't a birthday party. It was like a last minute.

I was like, I want to play mahjong today. It's my birthday weekend. So I just kind of texted all the ladies I know. And I was like, does anyone want to come over for this? And then you catered it with all time in that you got a bunch of takeout from all time. Yeah. And so then Kristen brought one of the dishes back to our house. And then I opened the fridge and I see, oh, is that an all time box?

And then I go and it's that fucking rice with that insane sauce and eggs. Aaron, it's so we have to figure out when we're going before you go out of town. And there was just a little half of it. Didn't we just go? Well, that's why we went. Oh, okay. So then I went. Yeah.

And I'm like, oh my God, I wonder if there's more at Monica's house. So I text you, hey, is there any more? You didn't respond. So then I just went over there because I was like rabbit now. And Jess had just finished. To be fair, we didn't get into it. It wasn't him. Okay.

He's like barely eating. It's a little stressful for me. But it was a bunch of a big party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And most of the food was gone. I mean, Kristen took an entire thing. Yeah, yeah. So I assumed for you.

Well, it was half gone when I dug into it. All right. But then that got me a little crazy for all times. So then Aaron and I went and he had never been. So good. And we had the most romantic dinner on the sidewalk candlelit. Yep. And they do a steak for two for lovers.

really. It is. We discussed the steak for two because Callie and I would always get the steak for two and we'd eat it all and everyone was surprised because it's a big old steak.

The steak is easy to take down with two people. It's the sides that are impossible. We did not accomplish eating all the sides. We probably left three pounds of potatoes. Yes.

And I mean, I ate a lot of it. Yeah. The cauliflower, the peppers, we had ordered stupidly aside. I didn't even know that steak came with all that stuff. So I'd ordered the shrooms,

the king. Temple or something shrooms. I would love to do a double date with you and Kelly. Yeah. Two steaks. In between our tables is a puddle of oil from those dishes. Does that happen when you get it, Monica? Because we were outdoors, so it didn't matter terribly much, but it was just gushing fat off

the side of it over the table and the whole sidewalk was stained where we were eating. Like I think they had to throw kitty litter on that. Oh, no. Absolutely. I've never noticed that before. It was like someone dumped their oil out of their engine. Oh, God. But it was delicious.

It's so good there. It's so good. Love it. I have a story. Okay. I was with my friend Sally. We were driving to Honor Bar in Beverly Hills. And we look over and do you know Coco?

Coco is a robot. The gorilla. Okay. Coco is a robot that carries food. delivery system. And it's like a box and pretty low to the ground on wheels that travels across

the city and drops off too. It's the cutest thing. I know. It has a little smiley face on the front. And the eye headlights. I think it has eyes. Now, I do think normally they have a flag. So it's like you can see.

They started with flags when they came out seven years ago. The flags are gone. They've all been ripped off and broken. Well, yeah. Because so we're at the stoplight. Yep, that's Coco. Oh, that one has a flag.

They get themselves into a lot of trouble. They're rascally. I see them sometimes. I can't tell if they're playing or they're really stuck. They'll be going in a circle around a tree. And I'm like, is it plain? It's uncomfortable. And also, Jess said that if it's at a stoplight, it asks people to press the button for it.

Oh, really? I've never experienced that. Oh, I would love to help. I would carry it across. No, he might have seen that on TikTok or so. But anyway, so we look over and there's a car accident. A car hit Coco. No.

And Coco was under, like kind of under. Oh. And then they were trying to put. They were so confused, obviously. And they're like trying to pull over, but it's like stuck under it. By the way, lots of damage to the car. Oh, sure. So then Sally and I are screaming.

Like we're like, like we've seen a kid. Kid getting kids. Yeah. I'd rather see a kid. I sure. We all know. A dog, a kid, a grandmother. No, Sally had the right. I was, I was like, Coco! Coco! I was screaming. And she was like, that's bad. That's really bad. But she was saying because the car, like, oh, my God, that car is like serious. What a cycle bad. She cared about the car? No, this is where I'm going.

Where I actually then after was like, oh my, I can't believe I felt like. real feelings about that. Sure. Against a Mercedes. Yeah. Kin of my car. Sure. Sure.

Cousin. Yes. And it's like an kind of older couple and they're so confused. And like the lady like opens the door to see. And I imagine being that lady and you, you're in the car. Something's clearly horrible. You've hit something. Yeah.

You're dragging now. Yeah. And then you open it and you see it's cocoa. And so first you're like, relieved because I'm sure you're like I hit an animal or I'm someone on a bike yes so yeah so first you're relieved and then you're so pissed I mean imagine how pissed you'd be if you hit a robot that was crossing the street and it damaged your car and now you have to call what 911 and be like reporting an accident the police come Coco's there

Coco's seemed actually okay really yeah they're sturdy wow I know then I I thought about the people not receiving their pizza. Yeah, the glass of wine that was inside. Yeah, it was probably being. And I think that you can order a glass of beer and cocoa. We're like, be careful. Bouncing through this. Be careful.

Yeah. So it was traumatic. And then yesterday I was walking by, in Venice, there was like a bunch of cocoa's. And they were all like in a line. And we said it was for the service. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Of course it was.

Yeah. Well, I'm inclined to think that Coco was probably following the rules. I don't think they can break rules. So this woman probably didn't look in the crosswalk. It was a man driving, to be fair. But yes. Oh, I thought, why did I hear you see? No, because the woman was in the passenger seat.

She opened it to see and was like, what the fuck? Yeah, so they were probably chatting and they missed that Coco was in the crosswalk. I know, but I don't think, I really think it's very hard to see when you don't have the flag. So, yes, obviously, they turned on red. Like, Coco doesn't just drive out into traffic or go on red lights on the crosswalk. Yeah, I think it was crossing and they turned probably in front of Coco. Was it a SUV or a car? Monster truck?

Yeah, I'm wondering like, yeah, if you're in a big SUV. She said Mercedes. It was a Mercedes. It wasn't. It was a, I think it was a sedan. It was like my car. I believe in the human. I do too.

But Aaron. If you now have to pay for damage to your car, like that is life ruining. If a robot pulls in front of you and is just dragging, like the car is just getting crumpled. Who owns Coco? Exactly. And then I thought this. I was like, okay, now whose fault is it and who should pay for what? And now this human has to pay.

That's what's tricky is like we can say almost for sure it was the people driving's fault. because, again, they don't jump out into traffic. But Coco can't give a statement. Oh, I bet Coco has onboard video. They probably do. Yeah, so I bet when they call Coco's parents and say, you owe me so much money, Coco's parents. Yeah.

They're going to go, well, let's review the tape. And they're going to go, Coco had the crosswalk was inviting Coco to go into it. It's your obligation to see if anything's in the crosswalk before you turn right on red. And they're going to say, go, fuck yourself. to say we couldn't see her. And then they're going to have to call their insurance company. And somebody's going to pay for it. This is a premium.

See, this is horrible. Yeah. I hate to think of Coco getting reprimanded for the. No. Coco means, no, if you're going to walk out and even if you're walking out, you still have to be careful. Coco is extremely careful. This is why sometimes you see them stuck at a tree. No, they're not careful.

They're just like, they have learning disabilities. Just to tell people, Coco goes so fast sometimes. Have you ever seen Coco haul ass? Yeah. Oh, it's so funny. Have you seen it? Yeah. Because they're so scared all the time and they go so slow most of the time.

But when they get some wide open sidewalk, they fucking, they punch it. Yeah. That's why I think they're a little rascal. They go slow and they're around people and stuff. They have sensors, obviously. Whatever. I just, I couldn't believe my reaction. I could not believe.

I think that's the right reaction. No, I don't know. I'm trying not to. We shouldn't have too many feelings around these robots. It's getting people. Some girl died. Well, that's for a lot. She died talking to her chat.

Oh, what? Yeah, she did. She did. She had mental health issues. Yeah. She was struggling. And she was talking to chat and something or an AI. She was talking to an AI.

Yeah. And I didn't finish reading it. Yeah. Okay. But basically, I don't think we need to have two. I think we need to. This is how I feel about. about animals. Okay, it's the same thing where I'm like, we still have to prioritize humans above.

It's hard. And I'm going to say humans, animals. I'm going to give you guys this, humans, animals, robots in that order. But there are some exceptions. Like, you have to, okay, a silverback of which there are very limited number versus one of the eight and a half billion people on the planet. No. If there's a button I have to hit, that's a tough call. Does it matter what person it is? I won't know who it is. This is like that interesting. There was a great, what was the old spooky show from the 60s and 70s?

Twilight Zone. There's a Twilight Zone with this guy. Someone comes to his house basically says, for X amount of money, you hit this button. Somebody on the planet who you've never met will die. and then, you know, through the course of the episode, he agrees to do it. What do they get? Money, a ton of money. Okay. He hits the button and then he says to the person, what happens now?

And they go, we take it to someone on the planet that you've never met or whatever. Basically what you realize is someone, you're next. Whoever hits the button now kills you. Pretty good twist. I hate it's similar to that. I would never press that button. Over a silver button. Yeah.

I'm for humans. You might be willing, if I didn't have children, I might sacrifice myself for a silverback. Okay, you can sacrifice yourself all you want, but killing. For Coco. For Coco. No. What if I dove out of the, like, I dove and pushed Cocoa out of the way right before he got hit and I got hit by a car saving Coco's life. You'd be a hero in my eyes. To give you a police military send-off. Yeah, I hope this city would have like a big presentation for me.

I miss her. I mean, like, I miss her. I'm sorry that happened to her. I wonder what happened to those elderly. So you think it's a her, right? Yeah, that one was. They're different. Oh, okay. Because I most often think it's a little boy.

Oh, I think of it as a her. You do, yeah. Interesting. They have names. They do? Yeah, their names are printed on the side so you can tell. See, it's just fucking with that. It's trying to, oh, it's so bad.

It's so bad. I hate color. But I love her. Stay tuned for more armchair expert. If you dare. What's the difference? Like, you're fine with me loving Groot, right? Like, but Monica, what's the, is there a huge difference between like, like, here's why I love group.

I look at him and he's always in a good, he's in the best mood. I know. And I know he has challenges. He has a lot of challenges with the respiratory system. I know. Yeah. And I look at him, I'm like, God, man, despite all things, he's always got the sweetest smile on his face. And I love him a lot.

I know, but that's different. If there was a gorilla or grout, watch out. I don't know what to do. Gorilla gruel. So it goes grout, gorilla humans. Oh, um, Groot, though, is connected to Delta. That's the real reason. If you just saw a grout on the street, you'd be like, oh, my.

my God, look at that cute stuffy. Right. It's my grandson. It's my grandson. It's her child. Yeah, so that's obviously different. Also, he's so cute like a cocoa is. I know.

But let's say, okay, let's say you're driving and you're turning right on red. No one's there, right? And all of a sudden you squish over something and then you look and there's a grout on the ground that someone threw. Someone threw a grout. Not, not Delta's grute. I think any grute. you know, that's when they say like when you have a kid, all children, you know. Clearly not, because you're willing to kill a human and a human.

An adult. No. An adult is someone's kid. Not anymore. There's an old enough that their parent died. Whether your children are old, they don't qualify. If I'm dead, yeah. No, none of this is helpful.

Okay. So someone throws a stuffy. Yeah. It gets caught and somehow that stuffy has metal in it too. And it's like ruining the car, right? No, that sucks for the people driving. No, but you've made it that. But someone threw it.

So now I'm mad at whoever chucked, whoever treated Groot that way. No, okay, Groot has the mechanism. And they've hung up my car. They got a real problem on their hands now. Exactly. Okay, I think if you, if this happened to you, you would be very upset that your car was hurt. I hope they televised this court case. I know.

I agree. Your mom will be all over. She will be. She really will be. It was wild to see. It was wild. When you were telling the story of seeing the car, it made me think of yesterday. Aaron and I were recording mom's car and we're driving around.

And again, there's so much going on when we do mom's car. We're delivering food. In this case, we had three different orders. We have two guests in the back seat. There's a lot. I'm driving. There's cameras everywhere. First episode.

Yeah, first episode. We have things we've got to say now. And I spot a guy who's opening his door of his truck while he's driving. and forget do you do you know how long we were with that guy like had you clocked it as soon as I we were with that guy for like I didn't hear anything anyone said for like eight minutes all I was like once he can open his door again we were behind this truck Monica and the guy was opening his door all the time while he was driving and I'm like what's going on is he going to barrel up the side finally I said something like gang we got a guy what's opened his door and everything then we pulled

up next to him at the traffic light and then I felt a little bad it seems our Our theory, our current theory, was his air conditioning wasn't working and his power windows were broken. And it was so brutally hot yesterday. So he had to be fanning the door while he drove. Yeah. And he had what seemed to be his wife or girlfriend. Look like a girlfriend.

Yeah. Girlfriend, I really. I'm embarrassing for him. I know. We felt really bad. It's also my mom's birthday on a positive note. Happy birthday, Laura. Happy birthday.

So many birthdays. Yeah, it's heavy. It's a heavy, heavy week. I was just saying it this morning. I know. It kind of sucks. We got Carly. You say your birthday's bad, but I think my birthday is bad because everyone has it.

And then like, it's not a special. It's not. Like, you're like saying happy birthday to everyone. I got Carly, Grandma Yolas, rest in peace. Then you, then my mom. Then Jess. Then there's like eight birthdays that I know of in the 10-day stretch. It's impacted.

The only other. one is that's as impacted as I'd say Aaron's birthday. Five people in that window of July 1st to July 8th. July's. Ryan Hansen, I know. Yeah. I'm forgetting so Anna. Forgetting some, but there's a lot.

Aaron Tyrell's son of shares a J2C. Oh, lucky he. He actually, I saw him recently, came over my house. He took care of the dogs for a couple days and he said it was right before. for the birthday. And I was like, happy birthday. He goes, you think it would be cool if I got a tattoo? How is he 15 or 14?

He's 16. 16. What'd you say? No, tattoos are not good. Technically, there's only two people in this club. But you do what you want. That's cute. That he wants to.

Okay, I have a question. I'll ask both of you. And then we need to do facts. How often are you changing out your towel after a shower? You know, you shower, use your towel. How often are you then putting that in the laundry and getting a new one? Well, once a week, that doesn't happen because of me. Okay.

That's fair. Once a week, Ruthie does a whole gathering of floor, you know, the whole thing. Yes. If it were. Just you. Just me. I'm always. I always think it's still good.

Because you're clean. You just cleaned yourself. It's water. It's like you got that mold and mildew. If you hang it in a place that dries quickly, I would definitely go five showers on a towel. Okay. Like a week.

And then the bad news is, you know, we were just talking about this yesterday. I don't shower a ton for people who didn't hear that. Because I sauna and then I cold plunged. And then I get in the hot tub and I'm like, what are we doing? I'm going to go get more water on me. And then I don't smell. And I only wash my hair once a week because I have such dry hair.

Yeah. So because I would only wash it once every probably five or six showers, that might be six months worth. Six months. Now I'm thinking, I think mine is changed twice a week now that I think of that. Okay. That's nice. And my showers are a little more frequent. Yeah.

Than that. I don't know. Yeah, but they're like probably every other day. Sometimes it's every day when I'm... You guys aren't showering every day. No. And you know what's funny? I was thinking about it this morning, weirdly enough.

I don't mind when I'm in the shower, but the thought of the shower, I hate it. I'm like, fuck, I have so much to do. I don't want to go get wet and then put on new deodorant. and then put my moisturizer on. Yeah, everyone feels this way. Everyone, it's a time suck. But do you think everyone feels that way? I know a lot of people that love taking showers and baths.

And do it multiple times a day. Yeah, a couple times a day. Like those people clearly love shower. No, I often shower twice a day. And I do not like it. It is a huge pain. You're rushing. You have to get, because you go out and work and it's a, it's a mess.

But you do it for the, you're not doing it for the enjoyment of the shower. The bath is different. I like a bath. I did two baths this weekend. There you go. At night. Yeah. As a post, as a relaxation, you put the bubbles and you put the powders in.

Oh, candles? And a candle. Yeah. And the lights are dim and you listen to music. Saxophone music. Yeah. I love it. But that's not for cleanliness.

I shower after that. Okay. I don't think I'm clean. I think I'm even more dirty because I'm in my stew, you know, and sweaty. We can just back up for half a second and start with the fact that humans didn't shower for 300,000 years. And then we didn't even have indoor plumbing until the 1900s. So we're looking at that people have been showering for like 120 years. So this notion that we have to shower every day is comical.

We don't have to brush our teeth either. But we've added something that makes that necessary, which is we didn't have refined sugar. So now we have to brush our teeth or our teeth will fall out of our mouth. People's in back in the George Washington days. They were getting dirtier. They lived in a dirtier world than us by far. What? I'm saying they didn't brush their teeth and it was disgusting.

Yeah, I'm all about brushing your teeth. I'm just saying the reason we have to brush our teeth is because we now eat sugar. We were designed to not have to brush our teeth and we didn't brush our teeth for 300,000 years. But now we eat a ton of sugar, so now we have to. But nothing has changed in our life that would require us to all of a sudden have need showers every single day. our environment's only gotten cleaner and cleaner and cleaner. We don't interact with dirt. You know, we walk on cement to an indoor house with the carpets that you wipe your feet on.

You know, we wear shoes and clothes. So it's like we've gotten in an increasingly cleaner world and we've showered more and more and more. So I'm just pointing out that for anyone is like, oh, gross, fine. But also, this is insane that we do what we do. It's unnecessary. I've never smelled you. Thank you. Yeah.

Yeah. If I smell even a hint of smell, I'm bolting right to the shower. You know, I don't want to fuck with that. And again, I've told this, too, if I didn't have a bidet, I would shower a lot. Well, that's, yeah, that's what I think like people. But I clean my butthole with water every day. So I don't, again, my butt hole is really clean. And then.

I'm not worried about adding soap. You don't want to add soap to that mix. No, I don't get into the whole thing about soap. No, I don't think I need to add soap to the mix to get my butthole clean. Okay. Yeah. Well, great. Yeah.

Finger? Well, sure. Yeah. I mean, you use what you got. That's what Mother Nature intended. Right. It used to be in the old days your bath was you jumped in a lake and then you rubbed your butthole with your finger underwater.

That was it. And you rub your balls and your penis. And that was your fucking, that's how you kept yourself clean. I'm glad I didn't live then. Yeah. Me too. I prefer to live now. All right.

Some facts for gal. Gal Gadda. God. She said Godot. I think it's Godot. And I've been saying Godot. whole time. Okay, how tall is Emma? You said,

we said 510, and you're like, I think she might be 6 feet. She's 6 feet 1 and a half inches. She's almost 6'2. She was wearing heels and she was, we were looking eye-dye. She is a tall one. Tall gal. Tall gal, gado. Ding, ding, ding. Is Ambien twice as powerful in women

as men? Women process the drug much slower, leading to blood concentration levels that are up to 50% higher. Female bodies clear Zolpidem, the active ingredient in Ambien, about 35% to 50% slower than male bodies. Higher levels of the medication can remain in a women's bloodstream

and the next morning causing next day drowsiness and higher risk of morning accidents. And trips to 7-11. Yeah. Gotta be careful. Reminder of where Tom Cruise's cake is from. Doan's Bakery, D-O-A-N in Woodland Hills, California. Holiday cake.

Speaking of where was... That word sounds Persian. Might be. You didn't mention your cake last night. It looked so good. Thank you. It was from a few nights ago, actually, because I was celebrated a few times, which was very kind.

But yes, there was a cake from this place called Chariot, L.A., and they took my... astrology, they took my birthday and my moon and sun and rising. And they created one-of-one cake. Mermaid. And it was so good. And it looked like a mermaid cake. And it had a lot going on. And at first I, truthfully, it was like, uh-oh, this is probably not going to taste very good.

There's so much going on. Yeah. Vanilla rose chiffon, a yuzoo curd, fresh plums. Brambooy. Exactly. Exactly. I was a little worried. Congestief and aperitif.

Yeah, but it was so good. It was so good, shockingly so. And moist. And I'm back to saying that. Moist. I'm done putting that on the shelf. Okay. Yeah.

And highly recommend Cherry at L.A. If you want a yummy cake, and if you, especially if you have someone who likes astrology. You don't get a moist cake too often. You don't. It's hard to find. They dry up on you. Yeah. They really do.

If you want moisture, go with eggplant. It's a mush. It's a wet, wet mush. There's too much. Covered in their skin. Okay. Is the gold, I mean, what is the Golden Gate Bridge in Lisbon called? It's called the 25th Day Abreal Bridge, which is April the 25th Bridge.

Okay. I just did that. Really nice. Thank you. April teeth. I took a lot. I took a lot of Spanish, although this is. probably Portuguese, but striking red

suspension bridge across the Tagus River, Taggis? There it is. There she is. Oh, hello. Okay, this, does America have a garlic whopper? No. Nope. While countries like South Korea and

international regions have featured dedicated garlic-infused woppers, and Israel, obviously, according to gal, the U.S. menu has only seen garlic flavors appear as temporary or regional items, such as a limited-time garlic aoli pairing, or recent themed items like

Grogu's garlic chicken fries rather than a standard garlic whopper. We can't get that here, sadly. But it's okay because we get the chicken sandwich instead. Mm-hmm. We would get that anyway. Yeah. Okay, what is 80,000 shekels in U.S. dollars?

$26,000, $853. Okay. 26,853. Who won Miss Universe the Year, gal was in it, which was 2004. She was right. Miss Australia, Jennifer Hawkins. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. How expensive is Lamar Lip-Bomb $85? Hmm. Yeah, but best $85 she ever spent. It really bought her a whole life, a whole career. Yes. Now, tens of millions of dollars. She was on the Forbes list several times.

Oh, we love that. Yeah, number three, most highest paid actor. Now, this movie, the runner, which isn't out yet, which is why Rob couldn't find the song, the blondey song. Because if you type it in, like, that doesn't come up. But I wonder if I say it, will you know it or no? You'd probably have to do, I'd have to, you won't sing it. So I would have to.

Right, because I don't know them. Okay. Say the name. Dreaming? Yeah, see, I don't think I'm going to know the title. Dreaming, dreaming is free. Aaron knows it. Is that the song?

That's not the one. Oh. Call me. Do you want to sing Call Me? Call me. Boy, I love. Call me, call me. Those are the only two. All right.

I'll just quickly tell you the song. Probably a deep cut. No, it's not at all. It's one of the biggest songs. But are they popular. One way or another. Rapture? Yeah.

I bet it's rapture. That sounds right. Oh, maybe. Heart of glasses. Oh, no. This is it right here. Is it hard of glass? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, this is popular. Yeah, what a great song. Oh, yeah. Oh, great song. Yeah. 178 and it still holds up. Oh, man.

I'm going to have this. She's 80, I think. She's still sexy. Yeah, and still performing. Yeah. Who is it? Debbie Harry. Oh.

Not falling asleep on stage. I didn't name the person, but I did tell our guest today that you had recently gone to a concert with a legend and that they were asleep a considerable amount of the performance and that you thought maybe they passed. It was scary. Who was it? It's the scariest concert I've ever been to. Oh, no.

Yeah. Yeah. It was like, oh. Yikes. How old is he? I think he's 93. Oh, wow. Well, then that track.

So everyone was saying around me, I didn't look it up. It seemed that most people knew that the answer to that. Yeah. Well, Debbie Harry's original name is Angela Trimble. What the hell? Yeah. Well, I don't like any of the music now. Yeah.

Debbie Harry's a better name for Blondie. Okay. Well, let's... That's all the facts? Yeah. Got them all. Well, I looked up Crabba. but she did a good job explaining it.

Okay. So we don't need to do that. All right. Well, well, well. Happy birthday, Laura. I love you guys. I love you. Bye.

Bye.