Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard - Mom's Car: Tim Lovestedt

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

On this week’s episode of Mom’s Car we welcome comedic legend and fellow Groundlings alum Tim Lovestedt. Tim, Dax, and Best Friend Aaron Weakley talk through the dish on Brad, working in ...wine, Tim getting a DUI at the police department where his dad worked, the namesake of The Worker tall boy, being tuned into the male Midwest supper courtship, Tim and Dax’s Sunday Company mythology, and achieving the most comfortable level of fame.#sponsored by @Allstate. Go to https://bit.ly/momscar to check Allstate first and see how much you could save on car insurance.Follow Mom's Car on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new content on YouTube or listen to Mom's Car ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting https://wondery.com/plus now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, and welcome to Mom's Car. Today, we have another old friend of mine, Tim Lovestead, one of my first friends in L.A. We did a lot of the groundlings together. He's incredibly funny. He has an impressively girthy head. He's smart. He's handsome and well-endowed. Please enjoy Tim Lovsted.
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Starting point is 00:00:44 Allstate North America Insurance Co and affiliates, North Brook, Illinois. But now that Pitt did video, I think it's kind of over. We'll just tell people like, well, Brad Pitt did video. Wait, you fucking had Pitt? Yeah, last week. No shit. So just give me a minute on that. Like, sure you?
Starting point is 00:01:19 Let me fire up the app. Did you fucking spray? Was he fucking great? He was awesome, Tim. It was so wonderful. And all I could have hoped for it. He came in. in the best mood, so casual.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And he mostly just was really happy and having a lot of fun. And I was like, even if I don't get anything story-wise new, you've never seen them like this in an interview. He's just having so much fun. And did he know sort of your legend with him and all that shit,
Starting point is 00:01:46 like all the bullshit you've talked about? Well, I had to tell him because, you know, I met him in a A. He found out I was going to attract that he was going to, and he asked if I wanted to ride up with him on a helicopter. And I was like, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I'd fucking go on donkey back. Are you fucking kidding? A helicopter. There's no form of conveyance I wouldn't have joined him by. I carry you on a jackass's back up a fucking hill just to hang out with you. Absolutely. So I say yes to this. And now I have this new fear.
Starting point is 00:02:15 We're like, what if he discovers that my last eight appearances on Ellen, all I've talked about is him? Like, I don't want him to get scared that I'm a weirdo. Yeah. So I did have to say to him, I'm like, hey, you need to know. I do this bit pretty often. I certainly have done it a lot on Ellen where I go on and I talk about how in love I am with you. But no reason to worry. And he's like, hey, yeah, yeah, you had a good sense to humor about it.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Of course, you want to see this. But then I was a guest host of Ellen while she was out of town. And when I got there, they said, hey, so we're going to have a surprise for you while the show's going on. Just know that. We're going to show you a clip at some point. And I'm like, okay, so I do the monologue and everything, I sit down. And I say, they're about to show me something. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And then what they show me is Brad Pitt was on the week before and it hasn't aired yet. And it's a clip of Allen saying to Brad Pitt. I don't know if you know this actor, Dax Shepard, but he has quite a crush on you. And then they show him a montage of all the insane stuff. I've said about him, getting the painting of me and him together. I'm like half terrified of what his reaction when they come out of the clip package. And he goes, well, I have to tell you something, Alan. I have a pretty big crush on Dax Shepard.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And they're filming me, and I'm the host of the show. And I'm just, like, laughing uncontrollably. And I can't believe he said that in public. One of the things I brought up with them, I was like, look, I have two of you in my head. I have a dude I know. And then I have Brett Pitt. And I'm not letting go of that. And I just juggle those two things, and they're different.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Do you have that with anyone? And he's like, yeah, I do. I had it with Redford. He goes, I have it with Sean Penn. He's still the dude I wanted to be. And he's still Sean Penn, but then he's also the guy I know. And I was like, okay, good, I'm glad to know that it's not just me. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:06 That was lovely, though. And is that a heart out on that? Is it like you get 60 minutes? So they told us hard out at 3.30. I think he was 2 p.m. But I had a hunch. They're just being protective. So, A, he was 10 minutes late.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So then who knows where we're at in that? But, dude, we hit the two hour marker. And he was showing no. signs of wanting to go or anything. So, yeah, it was a good, like, $2.20 maybe. Nice. Yeah. What a fun, like for him, too, because he doesn't do, at least as far as, I mean, I'm not
Starting point is 00:04:35 the media connoisseur, but he doesn't do a lot of that stuff. So I'm sure you guys were going through all kinds of fun stuff, and he probably gets a kick out of it more than anything. Yeah, he just had a great attitude about the whole thing. And yes, I was shocked. As I started doing my research on him, usually I have so many different interviews I can watch with people. There's shockingly little amount of him in interviews.
Starting point is 00:04:58 He doesn't go on the late night talk shows, really. You know, he's done Ellen. He did Oprah. I can't think of ever seeing him on a late night. Yeah. I'm not sure he's done. Did you guys talk about Jesse James? No, I knew he would want me to talk to.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Oh, my God. I'd spend two hours just on that movie. Yeah. You might have not been the right man for the job. No, no. I would have honestly been so specific and weird with my question. It would not have been good. You take a pause mid-word, not even a beat between words, mid-word.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I'm having an argument with myself. Is that a trout or a salmon underneath the frozen lake when you shoot down at the water? Yeah, it would have been bad. But I had read that in a previous interview, he wouldn't describe being where he's from Springfield, Missouri. Yes. He says, you know, it's Mark Twain country. It's Jesse James country. So I do think he definitely identifies.
Starting point is 00:05:53 with that part of it. Yeah. That's a good one. I think Monica summed it up best. Well, luckily, because all the Formula One stuff was at the end. And once we were talking about cars and motorcycles, he was, like, ignited.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Was that sort of the fulcrum of why he came on? Of course, you've always wanted him, but the F1 thing just sort of delivered him. Ten little things, right? Like, he had to bring Cooper out on stage for something. And at one point, he said, like, give me some things about Bradley. I have to bring him out on stage.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And as a thank you, I'll do armchair expert. Like, he just kind of threw that. out there. And I'm like, oh, yes, here's 10 funny jokes about Bradley. Like, he's kind of flirted with doing it. But then if you're going to go talk about Formula One on a show, I'm not saying we're the best podcast in the world or anything, but you're not going to find a single person in show business that knows as much about Formula One as I do. So if you want to talk about how nitty-gritty they got, you really can only come to me. Arnett likes F-1, but I don't know the specificity is his trick. Brad did a ton of the driving. We've been on the motorcycle
Starting point is 00:06:52 track together. So I think that was a big element of it. That's amazing. I'm so proud of you. Oh, thank you. When you were doing it. So it'll come out on Wondry Plus Monday. Monday. And then wide the following Monday. Let's say you recorded today with your guest. How long does that take? What's the turnaround on that? It really depends where they're out in the schedule. So like we will interview people where their projects maybe a full month out, a month and a half out. Oh, so you sort of time it for. She just edits as we need to do. fact check. That's like her finish line of when the edit has to be done so that she'll have gotten her facts and everything. And then also it's going to be coming out within five days,
Starting point is 00:07:30 so all that needs to be done. There have been like crazy quick turnarons where it's like, last minute we get a guess and it has to come out in four days. And the dream is when they give me a month. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like someone just pitched for a book in September. I'm like, yes, that's exactly what we need. What was your day, Tam? Well, I work in wine. So I was all over Burbank, Glendale and Eagle Rock just getting counts because it's the beginning of the month. So I was getting counts on the floor cases. Like how many of soul?
Starting point is 00:07:58 No, no. What we have on the floor like displays. So my rep is in Budapest right now. Okay. So I'm covering for her and then that was it. Do you think they couldn't have picked a better person to represent a wine product because you have the healthiest
Starting point is 00:08:14 relationship with drinking of annoyingly so that I've ever seen? It does get crazy when it crosses over into like, so are you a Merlot guy, are you a Chardonin? I'm like, yeah, I'm not really into any of it. Yeah, I'm a high life guy. If you're forced to drink some whiskey. Yeah, I'm like an O'Dul's. I don't know. Do you and duelers? I'm a dollar. But you also will party because when we were first becoming friends, which I think we should get into the origin of that, you were definitely like, hey, there's a Patrick Swayzee semi-truck driving movie coming out. I'll come over with a six-pack. Let's go to the theater with a six-pack and watch this semi-movie.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Well, I don't mean to step on your toes, but they were Coors, banquet, tall boys. This is where my drinking gets a little weird. If you make a tall boy available, I'm in. And especially like at the ball game, the Kings game here in L.A. Your hometown favorite. Oh, yeah. They have tall boys. I don't know if it moderates my drinking because I'm like, oh, I'm just going to have that.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You have plenty. You don't need to rush. You need to panic. Right. And I love a tall boy. And that's what we did. Was that Black Dog? Was that the night?
Starting point is 00:09:19 I was just about saying Black Dog. With Randy Travis. What a premise. Every truck driver will eventually see the Black Dog. And he's too tired to drive. That was like the threat of the, am I wrong? That was the whole book. But also, so tired.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Whoever wrote Black Dog? The great thing about any movie involving truck driving, you're just the potential gritty sequel to Smokey and the Bandit. Because that's the only reason why we were there. Yes. Is we were like, well, it's trucks. Did you remember? First of all, if you had semis in your movie, I was there.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Also, maximum overdrive. I don't think I was ever more excited for a movie. I'm like, wait, the semis go crazy? Yeah, or convoy? It's like, yeah, it's Christopherson. I don't even know who the fuck that is, but it's trucks. In a semi. When you're a little boy, semis are awesome.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Oh, man. I just remember also, I had at a summer camp this counselor, we would have to go to like a lake or out to the beach, and you're on the freeway. And he would want us on the opposing traffic. He'd be like, guess the truck before it gets close. And you got really good at, like, White Freightliner, Kenworth or, like, Peterbilt, or Mac. And so you'd be able to pick those trucks out.
Starting point is 00:10:29 It was such a weird skill. You had to or you weren't a boy. No. No, I was nine, but not really. You didn't know your big race. You were a fucking sissy. But what a weird skill set to develop as a child. You could do that, though.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You could have vent eyes, like having a six-pack, a tall, boys, and really dial into what is so joyful about that. Zero interest to have more than one or two. I was always good at moderating my alcohol. And the irony that you got a DUI and I didn't. The notion that I would be going to pick you up. And the worst part is, yes, bailing me out and the fact that I was in the jail that my dad worked at. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And I'm sitting there, they're like, Lovestead, huh? I'm like, yeah, yeah. Was he on duty? No, he had retired years ago, but there was probably two or three people who knew him. He retired before he died because he died really young, right? He did. He retired in 87. At what age?
Starting point is 00:11:27 30. No, but he did. He retired at like 49th birthday, 41 or 42, like really young. And was that standard back then? No. He had been in for, I would say, maybe 18 years, and he had health issues. I mean, he did not take care of himself. Well, you said he was an LIPD detective.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I think it's implicit that he didn't take care of him so right in the 80s. And especially back then. Was he smoking cigarettes? Smoking and drinking every night. And I think it's probably the reason why I never liked drinking too much. We all have the drunk family members that ruin it for us. I love a tall boy too. Well, you know, I'd love it how it came in any size,
Starting point is 00:12:04 but I was always doing quick math at the liquor store. You go to the cooler and you got a 12-pack, a case that's maybe on sale, three tall boys for five bucks or something else going on and I go all right how many ounces is in this deal then I got to add the fucking Michigan deposit on there because the most thinking you had done really kept yourself sharp by going there and crunching those numbers yeah my thing was you remember when you come see me
Starting point is 00:12:37 when I lived in Santa Monica my hack was I had figured out the 32 ounces of high life for $1.19 at Save-on. I'm like, you model that out. That's a fucking six-pack for three bucks. Like, what are we talking about? You introduced me to the 32-ounce-er. I didn't even know they made such a thing. No word of beer.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Yeah, no one wanted it. So they were always slashing price. People are like, what is that? I'll just get a six-pack if I want to drink 30-plus ounces of beer. My preference, of course, is the worker. Now, did you and I dub it that, or did Nate and I dub it that? I, of course, feel like I was involved. What was the worker?
Starting point is 00:13:12 So the tall boy's 16 ounces, and the worker's 24 ounces. Two, two cans of beer. I think that's what I'm referring to is the real. The worker. Yeah, yeah. I like that one. The worker is the way to go. You've got to earn that beer.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yeah. That's made for the big boys who get a lot of work. Yeah. I mean, you know what? You're not allowed to have that at lunch. Also, you had to be deliberate with it because if you weren't, it got warm in your hand, and the beer tasted like pissed by the time you got through it. Yeah, you couldn't just be.
Starting point is 00:13:38 really get after it. There's a time crunch. There's a ticking clock. Guys, we're on the clock. Yeah. Oh, hey. There we go. Boom.
Starting point is 00:13:46 That's a juice. It's going to be an all day. It's $21. Yeah. That's going to be like six pickups. Yeah, this might get messy. Our favorite place. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 We have picked up from here about half dozen times now. What was the story you worked at? Vons? Vons. And then I worked at Gelson's? Why do I picture you in there? Well, I worked there forever. I know.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I'm like, I see you? Did I see you? You guys might have rolled in there. There's some stories that have taken place at the grocery store that I always tell, like, first and foremost, that Tim blew his ACL out, just standing. Yes, I know. And then, like, hit the deck.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I'm scary. It was one of those pains that was so, whatever it was, it was something in my leg where I couldn't move, where it stung me. And I was in the checkstand. I'm like, what is? So then the. They put me on light duty, and I had to sit in the manager's office and, like, stamp these papers. You know, the punishment was way worse than the pain.
Starting point is 00:14:48 By the way, that food smells fucking. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Take a little. Yeah. Can we get a little? Carefully. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:14:57 But it was interesting, like, when we were all at the ground lanes, so maybe I want to go chronologically how we get to the groundlings. But just the notion that people had all these different jobs. Most people were waiters. A lot of people were doing enough commercials that they were. kind of self-sufficient, didn't have jobs. I was working at shows and shoots. And then Tim was in the union. Well, no, it was like a clerk and a checker, thrown product, doing all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:21 But, you know, as you get older and you look back, it's like, there were people that didn't have to work. Like, what an advantage to have that kind of capital where you were like, yeah, all I do is audition and I take extra classes and I'm always available if you want to write a sketch. My time was so regimented. It was like, look, I can write for maybe an hour and a half in the morning. Yeah, that had to be really challenging. Not just me, but for a lot of people, because you didn't have that clean slate and all that money where your rent was being paid. And it was such an advantage. Yeah, big time. Okay, so we met through Kareem, who we had met
Starting point is 00:15:57 in Santa Barbara on our road trip. And then I looked him up when I got here. And he had mentioned like groundlings as something like I didn't know how to get into comedy and he was who told me how and then you guys had already known each other from a different comedy yeah we were at a theater in the valley where we were doing improv
Starting point is 00:16:18 but I loved Kareem because he had a little bit of a fearlessness to him I just wanted to hang out with that guy like he was super funny remember he was doing the alternative comedy thing I was going like oh it's so scary like all these guys are so good and he also pushed the limits on that
Starting point is 00:16:33 He was doing things that people back then were like, what are you doing? So then you and I had met, and I remember we hung out outside of Kareem, which is always a weird thing. Well, that's the thing I remember. I invited you over to my house. I think even something is simple to watch a movie or make. No, I think I was cooking you spaghetti. With the carrots in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 It was delightful. I'm kind of proud of myself for that invite because it's so romantic at that age. I'm basically like, hey, do you want to come over and I'll cook you dinner? Yeah. Yeah, but again, you weren't scared at all. No, because I'm tuned into the Midwest thing, and I'm like, yeah, this guy who I just met is going to make me supper. Let's go. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Carrots in it? Might have to nap afterwards. Totally. We're going to see great when you leave there. You're going to see better than you've ever seen. Throw those glasses right in the garbage. And I think you made me like a beet salad. The Greek salad.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Yeah, yeah. That was when I had gotten the recipe for the dressing, but it used. yielded like eight gallons. That's what the restaurant would use. I was cutting it down as much as could be cut down. But at some point, some of the ingredients wouldn't work. So I did have to commit to like, I made two and a half gallons of distressing. So I was constantly trying to get people that Greek salad at my house.
Starting point is 00:17:49 It was delicious, that Greek salad. And then we hung out. We all got a ton. In my memory, yeah, we became really good buddies. I feel like we were similar in that, like, it did not take much. Let's get in the car and go drive around Hollywood and see what kind of weird shit's happening. We also sort of weren't invested in it. I know that sounds weird to say. We liked making fun of whatever was happening for the sake of making fun of it. I don't really
Starting point is 00:18:14 care that there's other people here. I just want to make that guy laugh. So we were just making each other laugh the whole time. A lot of nights spent driving around. And a lot of nights going up to Kareem's. And then Kareem would move throughout the city and he'd introduced us to kind of a whole new way of thing. Then he was in Hollywood. Just like out of swingers, we'd end up going to these parks. In the Hollywood Hills that none of us were invited to, and you'd take eight cars. It was kind of our gateway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I feel like I started Girlings before you, but then I had a big break, and you started after? I was thinking about this the other day. So we were friends. I had gone through that advanced part where you basically do two shows. And after those two shows, they're separated by five or six weeks. I forget the exact amount. But you do five weeks of classes, then there's a show. Another five weeks.
Starting point is 00:19:01 then you do a show. And based on those two shows, they decide if they want you in the Sunday company. Well, they had decided that they wanted to have me repeat. And it was really disappointing. I love the people that I was with. Andrew Savage was in that group,
Starting point is 00:19:17 Jim Cashman, Steve Little. Those were my people. And I was definitely disappointed. And then I got re-ignited into it after a while. Really quick, was there a battle, though, with your pride at that moment? Like, I can't repeat. I don't know if I was like, oh, well, that was a big injustice or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I didn't have that issue. Yeah. But of course you're disappointed because in your mind you're like, okay, well, those are my friends. I'm going to go up with them and we're going to be in the Sunday company. So then what happened is after some time, they had called me and said somebody had quit from the current advance show. Did I want to hop in? You guys had already started.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Uh-huh. And that was your group with Caitlin and Josh. Which I had had a huge gap between level three and four because I was going to UCLA and whatever other reasons. Yes. And I knew that you were in. It was Mary Jo who called. And I said, you know, Mary Jo, let me call Dax. Because my thing was like, well, this is your experience. I don't want to be like your buddy showing up in your advanced late doing fucking Tim Lovsted shit, like yelling and screaming at the audience. And you were obviously awesome about it. You were like, if you want to do it, I mean, we've already been in for a couple of. a week. It's one of those decisions where I was like, yeah, of course I want to do it with my buddy. Who gives a shit? Yeah, yeah. And we did it and it ended up great. Like we both went on to Sunday.
Starting point is 00:20:40 But yeah, it was a little daunting because you guys had already known each other and I didn't really know anybody. Was Larry in our group? Yeah. Larry. I knew Larry. Yeah, I remember being so jealous of Larry because he was in like seven national running commercials at any given time. He like drove a Lexus and maybe had a condo. And I was like, this dude is looking ready to retire. Larry, Larry was Definitely. He had so many commercials. He slayed. Not only did he do a good job with that, but he also handled quite effortlessly our clear jealousy. Everyone there is going to commercial auditions and not getting him. And he had a great sense of humor and self-deprecation about his raging success. We almost suffered from, and I think this would be a problem like of Aaron and
Starting point is 00:21:22 I went through together too, which is like our sense of humor is already 10 jokes down the road. It's so specific already to catch you up. So why we started here, it's like you almost needed a year of inside jokes before you would think that was funny. But we had that stupid sketch where we were duck hunters. Uh-huh. And all we talked about was how exciting it was about to get. And then we kept checking in with the audience, like, right now it's quiet. But in about four to five minutes, things are going to get very exciting.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I remember one last, there's going to be a fervor of activity. And then we talked about how exciting the excitement was going to be. Yeah. That's the stupidest kid. And nothing ever happens. Oh, my God. Also, what an innocent error. We had a 30 out six and a 12-gauge shotgun.
Starting point is 00:22:15 In the theater. In the theater. I didn't go to drama school. Like, I didn't know you couldn't bring. Yeah. Firearms weren't welcomed in the creative space. Yeah. And even the notion that we both had some weaponry to bring.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. I had like my. Dad's gun? Yeah, yeah. Your dad has a gun? I was like, yeah, he's got a bunch of them. So this week, the people that we were chatting with, I've been kind of trying to think of like a broader theme.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Have you ever met my friend Ryan Hanson? Yes, but like glancing. Okay, so Ryan, when I think of him, I think popular. No matter where he's at, he's like the most likable, he's charming. He can do backflips. He was an athlete. He's kind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:57 He's cute. And so I really want to talk about just like being popular. The one I wanted to talk about with you, only if you're open to it, feel comfortable with it. I have an enormous amount of, I guess you would call it Survivor's Guild from the groundlings. Okay. Because I have Josh Nathan, who I just thought was a fucking brilliant genius. He was a machine, like a writing machine. Every one of his were pretty damn good.
Starting point is 00:23:24 His consistency rate was off the charts. And the gap between throwing something up on Wednesday and it hitting the stage on Sunday, He always had the smallest gap. Yes. And I'll say he was a better actor than I was. He just had a lot of skills that I certainly didn't have, as did many people in there. I don't think anyone could really be there unless you're Melissa, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And think, like, I'm the shit here. Right. I don't know if you agree. I was just a gnaw of pretty much everyone's talent that was there. Stay tuned for more Mom's Car. We are supported by Allstate. You know what's smart? Checking Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds on car insurance. You know it's not smart, not checking the back seat of your car before telling your coworkers to hop in,
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Starting point is 00:25:40 The notion that some people hit the jackpot and some didn't feels terrible on my side. Okay. I mean, I'm delighted I hit the jackpot and hit the lottery. But I also just feel like there's just no justice. There are a lot of people that certainly deserve to hit the jackpot. but if not the same amount as me, more than me. And I feel bad about that.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And I was just curious what the experience from being in it and having some people around you pop in really significant ways. You know, there's a lot of people in our circle that not only got big, but got kind of massive. I mean, Kristen Wigg was in Sunday Company with me. And when she becomes this thing, it's crazy. All in our tenure, like Ben and Melissa, Ben Falcone and Melissa McCarthy, even Octavia Spencer, who,
Starting point is 00:26:28 hung around. Yeah. There was that one Academy Awards where Ben and Nat were nominated. Or Jim and Nat. I'm sorry, Jim and Nat. Nat Fax and Jim Rash. There's four of us that are at the Academy Awards nominated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Caitlin Olsen is she's incredibly successful. I just think there's so much in the world that I can't control. There's only so much that I can control. You know, there's a lot of it that's timing and luck. Oh, my God, yeah. But also what everyone I know is going to become famous, like that's not reason. at all. I get a kick out of people getting a kick out of my friends. And to me, it was always more about, I wouldn't give that time away for anything. And all the other stuff, nobody knows what it was like for all of us to be there late on a Wednesday night with Guy Stevenson putting up another guerrilla sketch. Or a robot. Or like Callie McIntyre on a bike on stage, doing a sketch that she had written on a dinner napkin. All of those things, those are mine. And they're way more fun. What I would want to say, but then would stop myself because I would be afraid it would sell patronizing is, and I've said it without you present, a million times, it never got better.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah. That was it. Being in the Sunday company, having like a show to do on Sunday and actual people came and they paid money and they wanted to be there and it was sold out and they loved it. That's about as great as it ever felt. And that theater sold out every night. We never had to say bring friends. My only, because I did two years in the Sunday company, which is kind of unheard of, I just wish I knew at the time that two years, like, swallow it up.
Starting point is 00:28:07 They always felt like every six months there's this end game. It's hard to enjoy it because you're always a little panicked. You're going to get kicked out. Yeah, and it becomes this competitive thing. You're counting other people's sketches. Yeah. It's a competitive environment. Only so many are going to get in.
Starting point is 00:28:25 What a gift, especially at that time. You look at the time we're in now and things have changed so much. But in that time, you could really let loose. You could create to your maximum. It sounds weird to say, but potential, no matter how deep you wanted to dig on the weird things you thought were funny, you did have a space to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even more fun was Wednesday because you're putting up sketches that ultimately the director will go, you can't do that. And that's like what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You pretty much want to write the sketches that you can't do. Also, like, watching your friends try stuff and then also not try stuff where you're like, you're doing another one of those ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's how you feel now. You never went through a depression or a sourness or anything, bitterness.
Starting point is 00:29:11 No, this is a funny memory, but we went to the Without a Paddle premiere, which was at, was that at Warner Brothers? Paramount. Paramount. And they had built a lake. Flooded the parking lot or whatever it was. Yeah, they had a tank that they would film, like,
Starting point is 00:29:24 naval scenes. in. Yeah, and you could rent like a canoe or something. Well, just, yeah, people's seats were canoes. Yeah. And I remember being with Caitlin, we were walking to the bar. For us, it was weird. It's like, what is this and why is Dax in a movie?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Like, this is fucking incredible. And why is there a lake? There was a lot. Yes. And somebody walked by me that was on the crew of that movie. And they were talking to someone else and they said, yeah, man, it's crazy. Dax has always been that way.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And I was like, first of all, there's no way you've known Dax that long. But then it also set my mind right as to like the trajectory of how these things go. That success or that experience is becoming its own thing. And it's not for me to covet. Like I can't sit and fight against that guy's memory or the way he talks about you. It's like, he doesn't even know Aaron Weekly. How the fuck can he say Dax? been like that forever. Right. He doesn't know 10 Aaron Weekly stories. Yes. So that sort of set me up
Starting point is 00:30:31 for that famous friends experience. My friends are going to be my friends, not based on the fact that they're famous, but because we are friends. Yes. So that sort of set me up, that one guy, that grip on that movie. And then, you know, what you did a way better job of and that I'm quite envious of, because, like, as we were saying, the poker game, I just started going to that poker game again. I think I've gone twice. And it was like through a series of bumping into been enough, I guess, where you invited me, which is like, I couldn't wait to go, and it was so fun. But you did a much better job. Probably the most profound feeling is, like, getting kicked out, I felt ashamed of that.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I was embarrassed to have been kicked out of the Sunday company. And then in the embarrassment, I was also resentful at whatever group of people I determined were a part of that decision. I just left with a bad taste in my mouth. You know, I did not leave on great terms. More than half of the people probably have that experience. Yeah, it's got to be right, because there's so few slots on the main stage. Through numerous reasons, I both got really busy.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I got to go do movies all over the place. I was like starting that whole experience, but I didn't do a good job maintaining those groundlings friendships. And you did. You stayed very dialed into the whole crew. And I'm pretty envious of it, especially like when I went to poker. I was like, oh, yeah, I fucking miss this so much. This is so fun.
Starting point is 00:31:49 You and I stayed friends. Oh, that. Yeah, you and I. But I've always liked being part of a team. I know that sounds really weird. When it all ended, since I was the sort of senior guy, like whenever we would do things, I had to help organize it. I was like being part of a team.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So that part of it, I don't know, I just carried on with it. You know, I wish I could see those people more. But did you go through any? Like, when you were kicked out, what was your experience with that? Well, I mean, I did two years. So I definitely was not happy about it, but I sort of pivoted. Because I felt like after the Sunday company, I had developed a skill set that I had never had in my life,
Starting point is 00:32:27 which was like a hardworking, every Wednesday I'm going to have my stuff written. Every Sunday I'm going to perform. I'm going to line everything up. And so I finished college after the Sunday company because I was like, well, I want a degree. So in order to do that, I'm just going to transfer all that hard work and that work ethic. It teaches you a writing discipline, which is almost impossible to learn. And the competitive part was, okay, if I'm going to be doing this, then I need to do it. So that means investing time in the writing, investing time in the other people,
Starting point is 00:32:58 investing time in making the show better. Because Sunday, I remember having shows where I was only in one sketch. And I was like, that just can't fly. So I got to figure out how do I get on stage? And you can get a little Machiavellian. I got to give so-and-so a sketch. Or I just yell more. I remember.
Starting point is 00:33:15 It's got to be louder next week. I remember Josh coming up to me. I think I had four or five sketches. It was really great for me. I did a couple of sketches. that I really liked. And Josh was like, you're doing like four or five sketches
Starting point is 00:33:28 where you yell. Do you think that's too much? And I was like, come on, man. I'm like, I feel so good right now and you just killed me. Yeah, I'm just doing it. Are you concerned about your voice? Have you been taking throat code?
Starting point is 00:33:41 You weren't embarrassed when that happened to you. Or were you? No, I was worn out. Okay. You welcome to the reprieve. Me that door. Oh, you might get to meet somebody. I like to meet people.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So Jacob sent for a surprise. Yeah, he is. Oh, this is so close. This was a freebie virtually. Oh, dude. That's a dropy? Yeah. It was a nice little bit of a little bit of chishish.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Nice little bit of ched. Now, a guy can make a living off these kind of deliveries. That's right. Yeah. So I guess maybe in summation, minimally, I don't need to carry as much survivor guilt in regard to you. No, no, no. You don't seem to be mad at me. No.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But you've also gotten a witness that now firsthand front row seat to how dynamics change around people who get success. Yes. I don't know. Is it a chicken or the egg? Did other people change and then they change? Yeah, who changed here? Right.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Which one of you? Are you leaving? Let's talk about that. Jesus. That guy could not care less. No, no one can. Nobody cares. It's been a very humbling.
Starting point is 00:34:49 No one likes to make eye contact anyone. You don't just deliver it. Dope. And then the people. that do, they're more confused. Yeah. That's a dude, but that's obviously not that dude. And what is he have all those cameras? Why does you have that?
Starting point is 00:35:01 Now, as you might expect, when Kristen was with us, that took all the guesswork out of it. Yeah. A hundred percent of the people that saw her in the back seat. Let me ask you, do you resent her for all her success? No, I'm so grateful. Yeah, yeah. Because there was a long period of us together
Starting point is 00:35:19 where I don't claim that I was ever more famous than her. But That was definitely more recognizable than her. Kristen, for years, people would see her. And I'd see them even was for their friends like, that looks like that actress Kristen Bell. When they'd see me, if they recognized me, they're like, yeah, that's him.
Starting point is 00:35:33 He's 6'9, the huge nose, the whole tattoos. There was a long period where I would get blasted more than she would. And so in general, I'm fucking delighted that there's someone that people are more interested in talking to than me, which is unanimous at this point. If you bump into both of us, unless you're an arm cherry, you want to talk to. Kristen, I'm like, go get them, girl. I'll be over here checking my phone. I take pictures a ton.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I'm delighted about it. I got to experience it. It's waning. I'm less and less famous every day. Longer, I've not been on TV. I can feel it. And it's delightful. Yeah. I almost feel like it's almost too good to trust. Like, wait, you don't get to be and then not get to be, or get the perfect amount you want. You get into a restaurant, but then you're not taking a lot of pictures. I've seen from afar, even, from Michigan, it's definitely the other people that have changed. Oh, well, the people are already in you? Yeah, when Dax was first starting out on this journey
Starting point is 00:36:34 and must be nice beyond that movie. You know, whatever. Must be nice knowing how you're going to pay your rent. He's the exact same. We got in the movie. This is what we only could fucking wish for any of us, right? Or this is why we get excited. He did it because we knew he'd be the one to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I always felt like I was the only one that stayed excited. I'm like, you guys suck, dude. And I'll spend my entire life sticking up for it. When I think back at the crownlings, Caitlin told me one time she was like, I always knew Dax was going to be famous. And I was like, you did? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:37:09 But based on what, is lack of head shops, lack of representation? No, I mentioned, I honestly, That guy in a fucking dip shit I hang out with and drinks their duels. A pretty big drinking problem, that guy. You mean the guy that's collecting quarters so we can buy a tallboy?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Discharging his 12 gauge above the heads of some gangbangers. It's racing to his apartment. Maybe it was a mistake, but none of that became tangible where it was like, I'm going to do this to get to SNL. Everybody said that, but for me, I was always more present than that. I have in a weird way felt like moving here is a blessing in a sense. Because me, Caitlin, we left our family and all of our friends to do this thing.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So if we left everyone for nothing, that was going to be a big miscalculation. And I think for people like just lived here, he had his friends from home, he could eat dinner at mom's house. Yeah. And I do wonder if that prevents a little bit of the. pressure you would put on yourself otherwise if you moved here. I think there's truth in that. But hence my devastation, when that door shut, like Saturday Life is completely off the table. There's no way for me to get there now.
Starting point is 00:38:26 That's over. This whole dream that's been going on for 10 years is dumb. To that point, too, I do remember people would from time to time audition for SNL while we were there. And you would find out they didn't make it. And I remember thinking, like, well, that's just crazy. So that guy can't be on SNL? So it sort of spelled out a little bit of randomness of it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Well, that's what's funny. As you're even saying it, I'm remembering, like, I did not think I would get to S&L. And yet, I also was trying my hardest to get to S&L. Both things were true. I was like, devastated I was no longer going to get there, but I never even thought I would get there. I'm learning you're not as neurotic as me. I think that's what I'm learning in this whole conversation. Tim's like, psycho.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Totally. The thing he made it, he would have killed himself. Jesus. And I actively was. Aaron, you want to take over on that wheel? I've got children. I think people being angry is funny. And I think people getting angry with themselves and embarrassing themselves is funny.
Starting point is 00:39:31 It always makes me laugh. Saying things in the worst spot is funny and for good or bad. I was just having this debate with Monica and Alexander Scars Guard. Okay. It's very Swedish. So the whole time I was just like, all I wanted to talk about was like the difference between Swedes and American. It's so fascinating, right? But somehow it came up, I'm like, well, let me get this straight.
Starting point is 00:39:53 When you guys walk into a room and you see a dude in a wheelchair, do you not immediately go like, don't talk about running, don't talk about jumping, don't talk about how much fun you had, like on a hike. I just start listing everything we got to avoid saying, but that goes for almost anything that's in a room. It doesn't even have to be as extremist, a wheelchair. And they could not relate to that. And I thought that was like a human thing, but it's not. Do you do that? Of course. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:21 The guy with an iPad, you're like, don't bring up guns. Don't bring up pirates. Don't bring up Johnny Dap even might trigger this guy. All right, you got a question? Yeah, Tim. And I'm wondering, because we don't know each other as well as we should. We don't know each other that well. No, of course, as well as we should.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Just from today. I don't think you're as petty. Yeah, yeah. I know, I'm feeling kind of bad about myself. In a great way. Anyway, wrote this down beforehand. Do you ever brag about things that you were good at, but it's a flat-out lie? And that no one knows.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Oh, like, something that I'm not good at, but I would tell a story about how good I am at it? Well, we'll go first so that you know the bar. Okay. I don't even know how we ended up admitting this to each other, but, like, I somehow admitted to him that At some point, I told Guy from Groundlings, who was bigger than me and stronger than me. Yes. And I was trying to demonstrate my bona fides. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And somehow, I said, I lived in Detroit. He said, oh, my God, did you ever go to the Kronk gym? And I go, oh, yeah, all the time. I trained there. And I'm locked into this life with Guy now going on 21 years. I still text him all the time. He probably still thinks I trained at the Kronk gym. With Tommy Hearns?
Starting point is 00:41:39 With the hitman Hurons. Of course. And I happened to just randomly say that to Aaron, and then he hit me with this. Yeah, so I told him that... So much better. I have been telling people I was a Marine. Oh, no. Which came with a lot of stories.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Once you commit, you can't fucking... People want to know because that's a good story. of course I was overseas and he was doing and Dex can't just quit with you trained at the most fucking famous gym in Detroit like there's more that comes along so you
Starting point is 00:42:23 you keep digging and then I hope it doesn't get to where someone knows me good enough that knows that so I have to keep it only between a certain group of people do me a favor don't tell my mom that I was a Marine
Starting point is 00:42:38 so when he was a Marine, he boxed in the Marines. Oh, yeah, I boxed in the Marines. Oh, my God, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I boxed in the Marines. Oh, my God. You know, it's funny. A, it makes me so happy when you told me that story. And then also, like, my guilt and shame over having lied about that is 11. And when I heard that you said, oh, this is adorable. It's like a boy trying to be a big man as a Marine. And his Dad was a Marine. It's so obvious what's going here. I just told my dad's story.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Maybe your dad wasn't a Marine. Right. He lied. It's so funny because it's semi-small but really big for you. Do you know what I mean? Like it's not like I... And it becomes almost untenable. Like when Guy would bring it up, I'm like, oh, I'm panicked.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Like, I can't remember what I tell him I met a Manuel Lewis or Stewart or whatever the trainer was. Like I said I had lunch. Manuel Lutz was one of the most interesting things about it. You know, it really is. Have you had Tommy Hearns on the podcast? Especially for Guy. That was like. You know, one thing I have lied about.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Oh, good. I loved when I skateboarded as a kid. It was a big deal. But I didn't skateboard for that long. And my two best buddies, who I've known both since kindergarten, skated much longer than I did. And their stories, I mean, we have a famous story of Aaron got caught stealing wood from a construction site
Starting point is 00:44:17 to make a ramp, and it was like at two in the morning, Aaron got caught by the cops and walked down the alley that everybody had hid and was like, all right, guys, come out, they know our names. They know where we live. He rolled. And I always tell that story in the first person. Sure.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I was not there. Yeah. And half of the stories that any of those guys tell about skateboarding, I have adopted because I love skateboard culture. I love skateboarding. I got a job and I stopped skating. I've had this moment within the last year where it's like, I'm meeting someone new, this is when I would lay out this lie?
Starting point is 00:45:03 And I go, when are we going to stop? people this lie. When I met people out here and I wanted to drive fast, I'd just be like, oh, I raced for years in Detroit. Like, just lie. So that you would trust me to drive like an asshole. Yeah, when you get far from home, or you've got to keep them going.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Especially how you come out here, it's like you just write your own story. That was a fucking black belt in Taekwondo in Detroit. I worked for the Edison. I invented the assembly line. A strong telephone wire. There's an electrician. It's like mundane.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Someone was asking me, like, where I boxed. Oh, no. And never occurred to me, like, where I would be boxing, right? You didn't tell out that part of your story. I said I boxed on a ship. And then, and then. So you were on like a Navy ship? I'm like, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:09 The Marines, the Navy. You name are. That was boxing loves, I was boxing. We're all together. On a balons being like, I boxed a guy on an I-beam while building a skyscraper. Aaron comes by this natural. I don't know if I have such an excuse, but the best part was, is his dad told us a story when we were working for him, because his dad owned a roofing company and we roof for him.
Starting point is 00:46:31 He has his uncle Tom, who's incredible. This is exactly what he sounds like. Matt, what are you motherfuckers doing? Jim, it's that extreme. You're like, is he Cajun? Is he black? Is he any long gray hair? Looks like a biker. So his dad was telling us that one time,
Starting point is 00:46:53 they were both in Vietnam, and his uncle was a medic. His uncle tells this elaborate story about jumping out of a helicopter, and he's got his sidearm, and he's got to start using his sidearm, and then this happens, and that happens. When I was hearing the story,
Starting point is 00:47:04 I was like, I don't think they give the medics that. Smelling some bullshit. He said he was shooting these motherfuckers with his, you know, machine gun and shit. Yeah. Machine gun. So Aaron's dad hears this story. It doesn't sit right.
Starting point is 00:47:18 He said, I kill women and children. Which, by the way, I'm telling you, it's a smart tactic when you're a liar. You've got to add some stuff that's unflattering to yourself to build credibility. Well, you want to be saying that, right? I killed a woman. Oh, my God. And oh, children's.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So Aaron's dad is at home a couple years after he heard this story from Tom. And he's fucking watching a rerun of MASH. And it's verbatim. Every single detail
Starting point is 00:47:54 he had told his dad was from an episode of MASH. But to your thing with stealing stories, this is the God's truth because we've been together there's so much since we were 11. Sincerely, sometimes.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I don't know if it's his, my story or my story, but we were both there or we weren't. So it's like car shows. We were mostly on all the car shows together, but sometimes we weren't. And it's just straight confusing without even trying to lie. Well, Timmy Lovsted, I love you to pieces.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Oh, I love you guys. Thanks for having me. Well, we're like 30 years into friendship. It is really crazy. We're still alive. Still alive. We're going to beat our fathers. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:29 You're in the club. I beat my dad. My dad was 42. Oh, yeah. That's the new winner. You just took the lead. What should have, 54? 54, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:39 That's how old he was when he died. Yeah. Those are insane numbers. That was 42. He was retired. Did you have a great way? He was retired with 42? I don't know what's crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Or then he died or was retired. Oh, my God. Or that he died 10 years and he was retired. All right. Love you. Yeah, baby. Thanks, guys. I'm gonna
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