Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard - Sam Richardson

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

Sam Richardson (Sausage Party: Foodtopia, Veep, Detroiters) is an Emmy award-winning actor and comedian. Sam joins the Armchair Expert to discuss his thoughts on the institution of marriage, how his p...arents met in Ghana, and going to a Jesuit school. Sam and Dax talk about famous Michiganders, his time on the Second City cruise ship, and local Detroit commercials. Sam explains how much Veep taught him about being on set, having to fight the regrets of his convictions, and his favorite ride at Cedar Point. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepard and I'm joined by Lily Padman. And we have one of our very favorite comedians of all time on today, Sam Richardson. So fun, so funny. Detroit comedy, Cedar Point. Oh God. Yes, this will be the beginning of.
Starting point is 00:00:23 These are all the things that Dak liked about Sam. Oh, Sam Richardson, you know him. He is the best part of anything you've ever seen him in. You know, of course he had the great show with Tim Robinson, Detroiters and the after party, Veep, where we fell in love with him. So good. I think you should leave and then Ted Lasso
Starting point is 00:00:43 for which he won an Emmy. And he has a new series out now on Prime Video called Sausage Party Foodtopia. So this is a series based on the hysterical cartoon of the same name Sausage Party. So please check out on Prime Video, Sausage Party Foodtopia. Please enjoy the Prince from Detroit, Sam Richardson.
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Starting point is 00:03:23 Me too. I've been trying very long. You're a loser. It's true. It's really true. You smell delightful. Thank you very much. It's afternoon swim by Louis Vuitton.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Oh my god. You're fancy. We saw your car. Oh yes. Don't blow my. It's also not a Detroit vehicle. We like it though. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I have some foreign vehicles too. Yeah. Do you need anything before we begin? Do you like a hot coffee or? Think about all the things. We have some Rx bars, little protein. We have water of course and we have coffee and tea. Do you like the sparkling water by Cheese?
Starting point is 00:04:01 Oh my God, the one. Yeah, I'm gonna ask you to run one in. We do. No, no the one. Yeah, how can I just run one in? We do. No, no, no, no, no. We should have some. Just fucking watch this. I should stop asking people if they want anything because we don't have anything.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I know. It's embarrassing. It's kind of false advertising. Yeah. Also, you know, it's like the opposite of the creative box where it's like helpful to have parameters. You go like, do you want anything? You start going like, huh, maybe a fruit smoothie would be good.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Ooh. Do you have a kai juice? Acai? You guys have a chutney? Yeah. Ooh yeah, chutney would be like, actually really good right now. Just like a bowl of chutney.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Why would you be so kind as to run up some pariés for Mr. Richardson? Thank you. That's my kid's sister. Oh yeah. Also a Detroit native. She's an adult now. She's old Richardson. Thank you. That's my kid's sister. Oh yeah. She's an adult now. Also a Detroit native. She's old.
Starting point is 00:04:48 No, she's gonna be my kid's sister. Okay, you're right. That's forever, just the timeline. Yeah, she also went to, you went to a nice school. Yeah, I went to U of D Jesuit. I know. There's gonna be, probably, unfortunately, for the listener, the most Michigan-centric.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Can't wait. Yes, me too. Can't outweigh. Even I was watching some interviews with you and it's like you couldn't get through an interview without dropping Cedar Point. Do you know how often I talk about Cedar Point? And no one gives a fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I haven't been there in 20 years, but I can't get it out of my head. When was the last time I was at America's Roller Coast? Mecca. Mecca. Nirvana for the coaster enthusiast. Entirely. This is Carly, my sister. Carly, thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Do you love Sam Carly? I'm obsessed, I just, Delta just said, I'll run him up and I go, whoo, whoo. I got this, I got this. I got this. All right, love you, thank you. Thank you. How cute is my sister?
Starting point is 00:05:45 Very super. She's got a great boyfriend, but would you like to marry her? We've got a great girlfriend. I know. Okay. Everyone's all tied up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Selfishly, if you were at Christmas, it'd be really great. It'd be fun. Yeah. Until it turns. Do you think it would turn? No, I don't think so. No.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I don't think so. You can always fall back on Michigan. There's always some faith. Yeah, we start talking about Cedar Point. Yeah, exactly. There's a nine year age gap between you and I. So I'm hoping all the overlap's still there. I think so. Because when I watched Detroiters, I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:16 this is great, these guys are almost older than they should be because you know all the old commercials. Yeah. But maybe they just ran forever. That's part of it. Some of these commercials were made once and then they just used those bad boys nonstop. Don't you wish our business was like that
Starting point is 00:06:29 where you made a movie once and it came out every summer for the rest of your life? That would be fantastic. Yeah, if I had to go with a without a paddle premiere next week, I'd be so happy. Yeah, I would show up to a Mike and Dave need a wedding date premiere annually. So in my memory, I only remember meeting you one time.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I was seated behind you. Behind me at the Game of Thrones premiere. Oh yes, and I was dressed to the nines. I had like a tank top on that said, Stark in the streets, Wildling in the sheets. Tattoos. Yeah, a bunch of iron-on tattoos. You weren't as eventized as I was, but in spirit.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Definitely. You know, I didn't want to announce my banners in my allegiance. Smart. Knowing how the game of Thrones plays. Oh, it is circuitous. Yeah, it wasn't everyone like dressed up up. Yeah, most people were at a premiere.
Starting point is 00:07:20 You know, like what you would expect. Suits and such. To bore you with one's two. Well, fuck it, I'm sure I told you in the seat because I kept turning around to talk to you and I was like, is he being friendly or am I turning around too much? No way.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Automatic, any Detroit, Michigan connection, we're good. It's kinda like being in AA. Exactly. It's the closest thing I think we have. Although I did have one bad Michigan. Oh yeah. Monica will cut this out. But I bet you could even guess.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Well I won't want to ensnare you in it. Let's do a clue. Make connections. Oh, interesting. Do you play? Oh I sure do. I don't think I played today. I did play today.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Before your swing. Perfect. I perfect. Four lines perfect. Nice. Do you ever try for reverse back? Reverse back. We invented that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 No, what is reverse back? You gotta go purple, blue, green, yellow. Okay, so here's my question on that. What is exactly purple? How do you know what purple is? This is part of the game. Okay. It's the hardest one.
Starting point is 00:08:21 It's generally the one that's gonna share a common word. A wordplay of sorts. Okay. What's generally the one that's gonna share a common word. Yes. A word play of sorts. Okay. What's really frustrating is you pursue the reverse back as I know you will now. I really will. The challenge isn't even necessarily
Starting point is 00:08:34 getting them all or getting purple first. It's like green and blue. I don't know, man. We are often in great objection. Like there's no way that was fucking easier than that. I would add so many stakes. But what bums me out sometimes is like, you're talking about hardware pieces,
Starting point is 00:08:49 and I saw a screw on there, and you said screws not, that's hardware. She does misnomers, thread pairings. Well, we've decided Wina is her name, spelled W-Y-N-A, we thought it was Wina, it's Wina. That is Wina, but sure. I mean, between the three of us, it's Wina. We all know it's Wina. It's Wina. Is there two N's maybe between Y and N? it's Wina. That is Wina, but sure. I mean between the three of us it's Wina. We all know it's Wina.
Starting point is 00:09:05 It's Wina. Is there two N's maybe between Wina and it's Wina? So like the win, like the hotel. Oh, Steve Winn. Like Steve Winn. The man named after the hotel I think. But she grumpy like us, you're an improv master, a genius. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And sometimes when you're in a grumpy mood on the way in, you're still improving But there's a little edge to a little pepper in the sauce So, you know when I was gonna have a shit day one day and let's even say it could even have been an interaction With someone in a certain sector of the economy. And now I'm really going out on a limb. Oh sure. But like if she had a bad hospitality experience,
Starting point is 00:09:50 she might purposely fuck with a category that has to do with a hotel. Right. I mean I don't know. As you say. That's a real stretch. Wow, that is a stretch. But she's just a human is all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:10:01 She's not AI and I imagine her puzzles are gonna reflect the mood she's in Yeah, sometimes there's clues in those about current events. I'm like, oh, I know who this is for. Oh wonderful We think that's happening too. Yeah Not even in the answers but in the presentation of the puzzle itself. I'm like, oh, this is a message, right? She's just read all fours. Yep Yeah, do you know about this book? I don't, but I said yep so quickly. How long have you been with your lover?
Starting point is 00:10:27 Eight years. Eight years, that's a great stretch. You're not married though. We're not married. Are you against the institution of marriage? A little bit. Yeah. I was too.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I get that. Is she? Not entirely. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Will you please hit me with your philosophy?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Cause I had mine really fine tuned when Chris and I were dating. I just. Would you feel safer if I went first? Yeah. Okay, I was like, I'm not religious. I question the institution's origins. I think it had a lot to do with weird capitalism.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Ownership. Ownership and building of empires. The notion I would have to ask my state or local government for permission to separate seems insane to me. Agreed. There's no log it's having a baby with someone you love. I'm just not seeing any of the upside and it all seems steeped in a bunch of traditions
Starting point is 00:11:20 I don't even agree with. I agree entirely and religious tradition. Business partnership, sure, but those partnerships shouldn't need to be binary by two. It doesn't need to be a binary. So I think we're on the same page. Also I was like, I'll be with you for the rest of your life. That I'm in.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And let's have children and let's do the whole thing. I just don't want to go to the state of California and declare, hey guys, sign off on us. And then if something goes sideways, you become a meth addict. I want to get the fuck out. I'm going to hire some attorneys. People change, and I'm not saying this about my girlfriend at all. No, because she's not going to change at all.
Starting point is 00:11:54 She's not going to change at all. She's rock solid. She's stuck in her way. She's the rock of your world. Exactly. But just the notion of it, I don't agree. Also, every time somebody pushes me to it, it makes me revert even further back.
Starting point is 00:12:07 So I'm like, I don't have to, I don't want to. Yes, yes, yes. I think there might be some more layers for you too. There are. Understandably. But you know what happened is I was like, okay, you've made your court case, you won. She's accepted it, it's not your thing, congrats.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And then I was like, oh, but also I could give somebody One, she's accepted it, it's not your thing, congrats. And then I was like, oh, but also I could give somebody something that's really important to them, despite the fact that it's not to me. And then, very much talking out of school, but I don't think she would mind. She would say this, she almost died when I presented a ring because she was accepted, that wasn't for me.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Do that, some issues were resolved in six seconds, permanently. Interesting. for her that didn't mean true security and Some jealousy that she used to have I'm friends with all my ex-girlfriends I believe that's also positive that was always kind of an issue and in a snap of the fingers that was all gone That's never been like that again And so it was a weird leap of faith for me and then the results were completely unexpected and I was like, oh wow That actually made things much much better. Yeah, that's my testimony So it was a weird leap of faith for me, and then the results were completely unexpected, and I was like, oh wow, that actually made things much, much better.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah. That's my testimonial. Just emotionally. Fair enough. But I'm with you on the logic of it, it's kinda out there. Just it's kinda out there. And then take my name. Then you know, you don't have to take my name,
Starting point is 00:13:17 and then take my, oh. Hyphenate my name. Hyphenate my name, and then I'm like, oh, why is mine? Yeah. I'm not gonna try and blast out my folks, but there's some stuff there that I'm like, don't this, that, and the other.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, being married doesn't make a relationship innately better or worse. Well, and in fact, I'll even argue, so I was interviewing Goldie Hawn and I said to her, do you think you and Kurt, had you gotten married, you might have gotten divorced. And she said, oh, several times.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Like the fact that they never got married is why they've been together for 30 years. Right. Because there's a freedom there. Yeah, I think a lot of people think of it as like this commitment and it is a pain in the ass to get out of it financially in all other ways. That'll be an incentive to work through your problems.
Starting point is 00:14:05 But I would argue the opposite thing can happen as well, which is I don't think we can work through these. This is for the rest of my life. I'm constantly going, this problem I'm in right now is for the rest of my life. And it takes on a weight, and you probably wouldn't bring up things. You're like, well, this is going to shatter my life
Starting point is 00:14:17 if I bring up this thing. And it becomes a fight. I will then become financially. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you might keep some stuff quiet and just deal. To that point of Goldie and Kurt, I think most people assumed that they were married. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you might keep some stuff quiet and just deal. To that point of Goldie and Kurt, I think most people assumed that they were married. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:28 So most people assume that anybody in a relationship for so long is married. Why do they have to be? Right. Well, and also you go around the world, and increasingly, a lot of countries I go to, people don't really do it. In New Zealand, everyone has partners.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Almost no one's getting married. Yeah. Okay, well we might've destroyed the institution of- I think, we might have destroyed the institution. I think I fixed it I think it fixed it all fixed Well, you just said one thing oh, yeah, so You were gonna tell a story about someone in Michigan that oh, yes. Okay, but before that My last thought on the names and I don't want to any guy's feelings because I think it's super well-intentioned. Guys will take their wives' names
Starting point is 00:15:07 or they're hyphenated or whatever and I'm like, guys, that's not progress. The first thing was fucked up. The answer isn't to replicate it. Map that out for three generations. So your kid inherits his hyphenated name. In three generations, there's seven last names. It just starts duplicating
Starting point is 00:15:24 because you've got to take her two hyphenated names, your two hyphenated names. And then your kids' two hyphenated names are their partners. To the power of 10, it's more atoms in the universe. Yeah. So just think this through. Think about for the pens and like the ink of the world,
Starting point is 00:15:37 just to be writing down so many names. Data entry folks. How much space on your birth certificate or on your driver's license? How long will the passport be in five generations? You know the pages? Or super wide in some other countries they do have Really long names like Ana has a really long name five or six names. I have a long name My full name is Samuel Nana. Yeah, we are fit quite Johnny William Oscar Richardson fucking
Starting point is 00:16:05 You're kind of like the news love how you say it. I love it. You're kind of like the newscaster when you say it. Oh yeah. Because you say Sam in a very American English accent. Samuel, no, no, yeah, yeah, I think I know. William Oscar Richardson. You kinda have to. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Each one has to have its own. Okay, so the Michigander I met. So we know the famous Michiganders. We know them by heart. Yeah, we do. We got Bob Seeger. Yeah, Bob Seeger. King of all kings, Ted Nugent.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yep. We got two and two, the host of Love Connection. Oh, I actually saw him at a Coney Island wearing a camel hair, full length. He looked gorgeous. Chuck Woolery? Chuck Woolery! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:16:43 There it is. I knew it was in there. We're gonna skip all the Motown people because we don't have the time. Yeah. He looked gorgeous. Chuck Woolery? Chuck Woolery! Yeah! There it is. I knew it was in there. We're gonna skip all the Motown people because we don't have the time. Jeff Daniels. Jeff Daniels. We love our Jeff Daniels. Yes, we sure do.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Eminem. Eminem. Kid Rock. Kid Rock. Mm-hmm. All right, so this group of people, who do you think might have had a rough interaction? I mean... I know who I'm thinking of.
Starting point is 00:17:04 By the way, this is before anyone was even outspokenly political. Yeah, before the Bud Lights of it all. Yeah, way before. This is a birthday party 15 years ago. Confederate flag swinging around. Okay, so you got it. Michigan. We don't have that flag there.
Starting point is 00:17:19 We left out the jewel of Detroit, Jack White. Oh yeah. I introduced him at the train station. Oh, the opening ceremony. Oh my gosh, you were at that. I was at that. First time I came out, I introduced a person. They were part of the history of Detroit.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And then they had me come back out to introduce Jack White. And they sent me out. Oh no, first I came out to introduce... No, that's right. Sorry, I'm just remembering it. End time. This is me coming, I think you should leave. No, no, no. And then, no. But then, oh yeah, no, yes, because yes.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Definitive every time you think you got it. Oh no, no, this is exactly what it was. But the producer says, all right, and go now. And I go out there and I'm standing there and Jack White's still going. And he's like, rah, nah, nah, and I'm like, shh. I'm just like standing out there in the middle of the thing. He's like, what do you do that's cool in that situation?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Tap your toe, like, rock your head, devil horns. I'm like, ooh, I'm part of this too. Take your shirt off. Exactly. Just start doing push-ups. Oh, yeah. So you were more out there maybe to go and give it up for Jack White. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:21 OK, it's not an introduction, whatever we would call it. I was supposed to do both. Oh. So I'm like, listen, gentlemen, Jack White. In fact, that's what it was. The guy and I come out and we for Jack White. Okay, it's not an introduction, whatever we would call it. I was supposed to do both. So I'm like, ladies and gentlemen, Jack White. In fact, that's what it was. The guy and I come out and we introduce Jack White and then I come back out again and I kept to this video thing.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Book ending Jack White. Okay. And man. Yeah, you can feel nice and awkward, huh? Boy, similarly, I brought out Nate Dogg and Warren G. Oh yeah. In Anaheim at a concert. And I felt that similar, how do I play all this?
Starting point is 00:18:49 You're right. What is my exact, and I swang for the fences. Sometimes you gotta. Okay, Detroit, 1984. What's it called, the something Edison district? Boston Edison. So I know this area well, cause it's bordered by Woodward, yes?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yep. And so I constantly would be driving down Woodward to go downtown. Yeah, there's all these really cool old neighborhoods just to the west of Woodward. So many, Boston Edison is where I grew up, so it's like the old historic homes. And they were built by these people in the early 1900s
Starting point is 00:19:20 that had come to what was then Silicon Valley, and they were hugely successful You had like Fisher body family and all these suppliers and they built these really cool grandiose homes, but in 84 It's like four would be completely empty three would be working and great. It was a very unique Scene now even by like 84 at Boston Edison was pretty full, very well manicured and maintained. I think by 2000 something, houses start becoming a little bit more empty there. Because the houses are empty,
Starting point is 00:19:53 they keep on getting broken into people stealing copper out of the houses and all the plumbing. That's demoralizing when the copper is the most valuable thing. The easiest valuable thing that you can get in and get out. But like now recently, it's unreal. And I'll be the first to admit, I was not optimistic. So I lived down at Griswold,
Starting point is 00:20:10 right by Lafayette Coney Island in 94. If that was not the nadir of it, it has to be approaching it. It was wild. When I left and moved to California in 95, I was like, thoughts and prayers? I don't know how this turns around. And then I was back like three years ago
Starting point is 00:20:25 and I just drove by the old place. It's fucking gorgeous. It's a farmer's market. I'm like, wow, I didn't see this coming. The idea of trying to just casually buy property in downtown Detroit, forget about it. It's so popular and they're spending so much on it. It looks so great.
Starting point is 00:20:42 It's so like walkable. What are the dog whistle terms? So walkable, so safe. You know? They spell it with three W's. Exactly. They spell walkable. W-H-A-L-K. Walkable.
Starting point is 00:20:58 If you know what I mean. That's what I observed. I saw more white people at this farmer's market when I was there three years ago and then I had seen the entire time I lived in Detroit. I'm like, is there a festival? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Greeks are down here. The Greeks are down here.
Starting point is 00:21:13 It used to be that this would happen during a Dave Matthews band concert and they would come to Comerica Park and then, please. Maybe stop at Lafayette, tear that place up. Yeah, tear that place up, really show up and show their asses. Then get out of there. Show their asses. Second City was downtown at the Hockey Town Cafe,
Starting point is 00:21:32 right next to Fox, right across from Comerica. We would be there all the time, so we'd be downtown all the time. Really, you would see people come in to come into the Fox or to Tiger's Game, Joe Louis for a hockey game, and then party. And then like as soon as those shows were done, traffic to get out of there. But now there's so much to do. Plus all the games are there,
Starting point is 00:21:54 just right on top of each other. And so it's just bustling wild. Yeah, yeah. Okay, you have had to talk about this so much, and I'm gonna try to spare you repeating all this stuff. But certainly I need to know what it's like going to Ghana a lot when you're a kid. Your grandpa, he was a chief.
Starting point is 00:22:08 He had some leverage and some status. I'm sorry, can I back up? When'd your mom get to Detroit? 77 is when she would've gotten to Detroit. Okay, and what age was she when she came? She would've been 32, no, that's not right. 1849. 28. 28, is that right? not right. 1849. 28. 28.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Okay, is that right? Yeah, 49 to 77. Make sure it is 49. My mom just had her 70th. Oh no, then she was born in 54. 54, 45. Now my dad is 45. Wow, shit.
Starting point is 00:22:43 You know what, I came out in the middle of Jack White. Now that I think about it. I came out in the middle. I was like, it's the middle of Jack White, and then like, no way, if the Jack White was seven minutes, I came out three minutes and 29 seconds. So that's not exactly the middle, but it's pretty close, as close as you could be, but including some footsteps.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I was literally under there during the middle. Okay, so she came. She was like, let's's say early 30s. I'm just gonna say 31. And what was her goal? My dad met my mom in Ghana. Oh yeah. And then brought her.
Starting point is 00:23:11 What was he doing down there? Is he from Detroit? He's from Detroit. How many generations? 1920, I think is when the Richardson's came from Alabama. Okay, so he's been there for three generations. What is he doing in Ghana? My dad worked for the Burger King Corporation.
Starting point is 00:23:24 He helped open the first Burger King in Harlem in like the early 70s, retired from Burger King, and then moved back to Detroit, bought a house. One day his phone rings, this is 1976, and he answers it, lady on the phone is like, hey, is Barbara there? This is the number I have. Barbara was supposed to pick me up from the airport.
Starting point is 00:23:43 My dad's like, where from? She said, Africa. Africa! So my dad starts talking to this woman on the phone for like a half hour. And then finally he's like, you know what? I'm gonna come pick you up. So he drives to the airport, picks this woman up from the airport. And on the way back she's like, you gotta go to Africa.
Starting point is 00:23:59 You gotta go to Ghana. I'm just coming from there. It's great. When you go to Ghana, look for this man. His name is Mr. Riafi. He loves Americans No, check it out. Mm-hmm. Oh my god And really quick this I gotta contextualize all that so he's retired so he's feeling maybe adventurous or what's happening the second stage of his Life, it's very impulsive present him with a good adventure. Yeah. Yes, I will do this Okay, so then you know, goes, travels all over West Africa,
Starting point is 00:24:26 then finishes his trip in Ghana. Looks for this guy, Mr. Riafi. Everybody's like, oh, Riafi, big man. So he finds this office building, talks to the secretary, oh, here's Mr. Riafi. My name's Lamar Richardson. She's like, oh, okay. Calls him up and says, oh, okay, he's excited to see you.
Starting point is 00:24:38 He's been expecting to see you. But he's in the middle of a meeting. Why don't you hang out and talk here with me for a little bit. Goes up to see Mr. Riafi. Oh, wow, so excited to see you. I love Americans. It's great, but I'm very busy Why don't you come to my house for dinner? Oh So he's like, yeah sure great on his way out He talks to the secretary in his way and he's like I'm only in town for like another week or so
Starting point is 00:24:57 But maybe we can grab dinner sometime and she's like, okay. Oh, this is Look who comes down for supper exactly Okay. Oh, this is like a scene out of a movie. To go to Mr. Riyadh's house. This is me, Hugh, to the bun. You know, it's very wild. Wow. And look who comes down for supper. Exactly. Come on! At the table is like, that's his daughter. He didn't know. This is, uh.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And so they spent the rest of their time in Ghana together. This is so storybook. It really is. And you're against marriage after all that. How dare you. Isn't that wild? They'll never match it. Wow, so he goes to dinner at the house and then your mom's there and they fall in love.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Your grandpa, is he signing off on this or is he a little bit like, hey, slow down fast Westerner. Slow down fast Westerner for sure. So then he goes back to Detroit, then they would rendezvous in London. You know, I should have to do stuff in London. Very important.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And hang out. Hold on a second, I do have to say this is a very dangerous way to fall in love. Yes it is. Yes. Very heightened. Very heightened. Very heightened. You're only meeting on vacation
Starting point is 00:25:52 in a foreign city you both love. Yep. You met on a vacation. It's like the bachelor. All your dating was on other. Every vacation is on a honeymoon. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So then he proposes and they go back to Detroit. And then my grandfather finds out,
Starting point is 00:26:06 everybody in my family in Detroit is like, okay, this rap is coming. So everybody on my dad's side of the family gather at the house, you know, everybody's like dressed in their finest clothes. I have to point out the parallel. You must hate it. You must hate it.
Starting point is 00:26:18 The movie? Yes. I remember when they had the apartment. Coming to America. Coming to America. Yes, yes. I'm sorry, it's very similar. But I'll tell you, it's even more similar. He opens in McDowell's. When they in the apartment coming to America It's even more similar he opens in McDowell's I wish
Starting point is 00:26:41 Everybody's there everybody's ready to really impress this man. He flies in it's a stormy day police escort Where are they living at the time? They're living in Boston, Edison He comes in meets everybody. Here has like a little story talks to everybody and then they prepared him like a place they was like all right I must be off I have business. He was there for a couple hours. Because he couldn't stay there you know. He had business at the Renaissance Center. Exactly. Had to go watch a movie. Gotta stay somewhere. Star Wars just came out, I gotta see that. Did they woo him? They wooed him, and my grandfather also loved Americans, so he was excited anyway.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Sure, sure, sure. He had an American son. He used to always call my dad a bush man. He used to always tease my dad. He loved to look American, calls me like, blue jeans. Your father's a bush man. He used to always, I'm he was like, blue jeans. Your father's a Bushman. He's like, I'm like, cool. I didn't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Ah, ah, ah. Now your mom, I'm presuming she left a pretty comfortable lifestyle. Yes. And she didn't move to Manhattan. Yeah, she moved to Detroit. Again, we just described it, painful detail. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:41 The scene in Detroit. Very stark difference from the Ghanaian lifestyle that she was living and used to, because it's also Ghana and London, because she went to boarding school in London. My grandfather was a member of parliament. Your dad must be very charismatic. Well, I mean, apple in the tree.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Uh-huh, and this is not too far. Not too far, but yes, he's one of the most charismatic men in the world. So wait, did grandpa then help dad buy a Burger King? Is that where you were going with that story? No, no. He had already done the Burger King. Oh, he had.
Starting point is 00:28:12 He retired from Burger King, but just the parallels. And then they opened a restaurant together? My mom and dad opened a restaurant together. Right. In downtown Detroit. It's called Jinyami House Restaurant on Grashit. And you guys lived above it? Yeah, we had an apartment directly above it.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I would have been three years old, but I just remember that restaurant so well, and I can remember watching old Superman videos, the Fischer Brothers Superman, and I would just, I don't know where to go with this. Debate jumping out the second story window. Made kind of, yes. Yeah, of course, call the void.
Starting point is 00:28:39 All the void. And this is very nosy, but where does dad get the money to open up an Outback? So the Outback money comes from a few places, but mostly my mom, and I think we kind of put everything that we had into that Outback. What location was it?
Starting point is 00:28:56 So we tried to open it in downtown for the longest time, red tape, couldn't do it. Found a site in Southfield, opened in like a few months. Yes, of course, Southfield loves business. Southfield loves business, nine mile in Greenfield. That's where my father was at, slinging those Fords. Those Fords? Virtually right there.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah. Okay, and then you went to U of D, and that's a Jesuit school. Yep. I didn't know that till today. I know U of D, and they always have a good football team and good sports teams, but I didn't realize it was a Jesuit school.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And we've interviewed a few people that went to Jesuit schools, and they really have a good football team and good sports teams, but I didn't realize it was a Jesuit school. And we've interviewed a few people that went to Jesuit schools, and they really loved it. I really did. The approach to education was very real. Am I right to summarize that their approach is you are encouraged to challenge things? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:40 If I didn't understand how something worked, I could talk about it, but I was also a bad student. I think I'm pretty smart. I would agree, so far. And lazy as well. So if I can figure something out, I'll just figure it out,
Starting point is 00:29:51 and I can just kind of do that without paying attention. But you can't do that for math, unless you're a super genius, and I am not. So I wouldn't do my math homework. Oh, what is this symbol? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, uh-oh. Well, I was super into math until you had to get
Starting point is 00:30:04 that certain calculator, like the trig calculator. And I looked at all the buttons, I was like, get out of here, this is ridiculous. I can't learn hieroglyphics to continue on with this education. I got overwhelmed. Graphic calculators. Graphic calculators.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Oh man. I got it, it was like when they upgraded Nintendo and there was too many buttons on it and I was out. Yep, because that's the thing, if you don't steadily move along with video games, especially with Nintendo and like how the third dimension was introduced to it and the joystick, all of a sudden you can control your view.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And that was like something so new to video games to control an axis of observation. But now kids do that innately because that's how you learn video games. But there was a curve, you're like, okay, Nintendo 64. Ooh, what? Mario can turn his head around? Or you can make Link move his head around and jump and see the sky and I still game.
Starting point is 00:30:50 So now I just do it, because I can just know, and all the controls are the same before where it was, you know, up, down, left, right, A, B, B, A, right? Yeah, Contra. Contra? Yeah, you know that one? No, that was before my time.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Left, right, left, right, up, down, up, down, A, B, B, A, something, down, up, down, ABBA, something, it gave you unlimited lives. Oh wow. It's a very famous code, it makes its way into movies a lot. Yes it does. I always think, I don't have children,
Starting point is 00:31:13 but when they're like, oh get that screen away from me, they're on the iPad again? I'm like yes, because that's how they're gonna be able to know how to fly the flying cars. It's true. Because they can just do it.
Starting point is 00:31:23 You're right, it is weird. It is the future, it's like why would you take it? Although, I mean, there's a lot of stats that it's bad for their brains. It's definitely bad for them, but also you're preparing them to live, what, in the 80s? Exactly. Also give them a time machine.
Starting point is 00:31:34 It's true. Like, go use their analog. Everything is touch screen. Chairs have touch screens on them. Yeah, when you go get a job, presumably it's gonna be doing that. Yeah. Doing that. Yeah. Stay tuned for more Farm Share Expert.
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Starting point is 00:33:04 Which was great because nobody was posturing or flexing. We were all just like stinky boys hanging out. At least not in my experience. I was popular. It was funny. What are you gonna do? You know? I was kind of like in a bunch of different groups. I would hang out with skaters, with the theater kids.
Starting point is 00:33:22 BASE was the Black Achievement Society of Education. I wasn't a member of BASE because I didn't go to the meetings. But you know, all the things, I can't. You'd bail around with them a bit. Lazy. You were in BASE. You had the L for lazy.
Starting point is 00:33:34 The L for lazy, exactly. But I think mostly theater. Was your sister's school Mercy? Mercy, yeah. Oh yeah, I did. Yeah, I'm from Arlington Hills. Yeah, I went to their prom. Me too. Was it at the Grosse Pointe Yacht Club? Yeah. Yeah, Mercy. Mercy, yeah. Oh yeah, I did. Yeah, I'm from Arlington Hills. Yeah, I went to their prom. Me too.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Was it at the Gross Point Yacht Club? Yeah. Yeah, same. Yes, it was. So I went to Mercy's prom, I went to Marion's prom, and I went to my prom, right? Did I go to another one? Three proms.
Starting point is 00:33:57 How are you meeting girls if it's an all? Through theater, and that's why I did theater. Okay. Was because I didn't know it was an all-boys school when I first joined, because my parents an all boys school whenever I was doing, because my parents were moving to Ghana. I was supposed to move to London to go to boarding school. Oh my Lord.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And then last second, very impulsive parents, they were like, actually we're not. And I took the entrance exam to U of D. I went to a friend's school, which is a small Quaker school that was in Detroit. My graduating class was like 15 kids. This is a very kaleidoscopic childhood. You're in Ghana in the summers, you're at a Quaker school for primary,
Starting point is 00:34:27 you go to a Jesuit school. Very unique. But it doesn't seem like you suffer at all from, it's almost tangible when people feel perpetually lost in their identity or having never been an actual member of the group they were constantly in. You don't present that way or do you have any of that? Like when you were in Ghana, were you the American?
Starting point is 00:34:45 There was some of that, especially with my family. To my cousins in America, I was the Ghanaian kid. To my Ghanaian cousins, I was the American. Axl Foley. Exactly, and I would laugh just like him. I'd go, hoot, hoot, hoot. Ha ha ha ha. No, look, there's two different baseline of confidence.
Starting point is 00:35:03 That can either make you feel very alienated or it can make you feel exotic and interesting. And I think that's what it was. I have siblings, but half siblings. I'm my mom's only child. So I'm the only one who has this experience. I always kind of wish that I had grown up with like a twin so that I could be like,
Starting point is 00:35:18 are you experiencing this as well? Yes. A controlled group. Can we remember this and then kind of check on each other when I say this? No, because you don't exist. I wish I had journaled just for facts and just for objectivity. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:32 What was more fun though? I didn't appreciate Ghana when I was a kid because I was like, where's the Ninja Turtles, the new episodes of the Saturday Morning Cartoons, but we were also living a very charmed life there. I also went to an international school in Ghana. So I went to a school with a bunch of Americans and British and French who had probably had really interesting parents.
Starting point is 00:35:51 They were doing wild and amazing things. My best friend, Parshant, his parents were from India and they were there for the banks. And my friend, Alex was from Canada. My friend Gert. Gert. Gert Janmeyer. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:03 He's from Germany or something. That would be my guess. He was Dutch.ier. Wow. He's from Germany or something. That would be my guess. He was Dutch. Dutch, okay. It was truly a rainbow coalition. Yeah. And would you live at grandpa's while you were there?
Starting point is 00:36:12 There was a few houses. And so I would stay at my grandpa's house sometimes. However, when I lived there to go to school for first and second grade, as my grandfather was dying. Oh no. I would go back and forth, but first and second grade we lived there because he was passing and then he passed and so we were like there. Forgive my ignorance, are they speaking English there?
Starting point is 00:36:27 English is the national language in Ghana. There was one year, all of my cousins, we just spoke English, one year I go back, and all of a sudden everybody speaks Chewy. Chewy is like our family language, and I don't speak it. And I'm like, wait, oh no. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'm the story of the American now. You know? Yeah. It just switched it on you? It's like one day, like how'd you like, did you guys download it just over a night? Hell, you know, I didn't pay for the upgrade. Just like a little outside.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And at the same time, missing those summers in Detroit, I'm a little outside, I got like inside jokes that I don't have. Everyone went to Cedar Point. And having a little bit of a accent, I don't sound exactly like my cousins do, either side. I guess you get to decide that's rad about me or I feel other all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah, I just always had like a confidence. I took that as not like a, oh no, but it was like, oh well, I'm interesting to you. You know, exactly. Being an only child, I make friends really quick and easy because I am interested and I'm curious and I also like to bring my curiosities to new things and people.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I wanna connect. Yeah, you're dying for a sibling. Exactly. Did you get to do any of the fun Michigan outdoorsy stuff? Oh yes. You've gone to the lakes. We had a cottage. You went to Mackinac.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I never went to Mackinac Island. Right now it's just been hitting me. We're at the dog days of summer and I'm like, I have not been on a lake in Michigan this summer, and I gotta get there. I feel amoral if I don't. We have a cottage up north from Michigan. You know, up north just means north of Detroit,
Starting point is 00:37:54 and everybody goes up north. Anything north of Flint is, like, up north. But I haven't been in so long. They used to love it. We used to fish. We used to hunt, and we used to just do country shit. That's where you feel the Ted Nugent come out. Exactly. He's like a leprechaun out there.
Starting point is 00:38:08 He kinda just floats around, and if you catch him, you get money. You know, he lived in the town next to mine, and occasionally there'd be spottings of Ted Nugent, because he had a Bronco that was completely zebra-striped. He'd drive through our town sometimes, and people were like, Ted Nugent driving a zebra Bronco through town.
Starting point is 00:38:23 A zebra native to northern Michigan. Ah! Ted Nugent driving a zebra Bronco through town. A zebra native to Northern Michigan. Ah! Ah! Okay, so you ended up going to Wayne State. Did you stay? I did not graduate from Wayne State. Okay, because when you get out,
Starting point is 00:38:33 you know immediately you're gonna do comedy. They opened that Second City up, I don't know what year that had been, probably right when I was in high school. Yeah, being in theater, my friend Pete Jaycox, who was a senior and I was a freshman, was taking classes at Second City. And so I went to see his class show when I was 14.
Starting point is 00:38:49 But I knew Second City, because I had like always been a fan of comedy, SNL, SCTV of course. So I knew everything about comedy. I was like, wait, Second City is in Detroit? Yes. So I went to see that show and I'm like, and so I started taking classes when I was like 15
Starting point is 00:39:02 at Second City in Detroit. So by the time you graduate high school, are you already on stage there? By 20, I'm performing. For people who don't know improv, that's very rare. Most of the time you're starting at that age or later. Yeah, you're approaching some of these records. I forget what age Eddie Murphy was on SNL. I think he was like 19.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I'm like getting reps. I'm not in the Second City cast, but I'm performing shows there. I'm performing shows at Planet Ant Theater and Amtramiq while I'm trying to get my theatre degree But then it just became so hard. I was being punished for doing both and finally I was doing a commedia show at the Planet Ant Theatre that we'd written and we were rehearsing and like we finally performed it and I was late because I was getting lectured by my Professor about doing more things, but I told my dean that I was doing more things.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I was like, is it okay? And he was like, great opportunities. But this professor was like, not having it. Every time he wanted to humiliate me in front of the class, he would stop me and kind of just lecture me. I'm like, look, I'm working. I came here to try and do both, but finally she's like, I don't think you need it.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Having never met the person, I hate to guess this, but maybe probably threatened that you were talented, maybe going somewhere? I think so. We just had Kirby on, formerly Kirby, Howell, Batiste, but now just Kirby. But she went to acting school in London. She had a very similar experience. And I said, was the subtext,
Starting point is 00:40:15 you should be so grateful to be here? Very much. Finally I was like, you know what, I'm not coming back. And then I just kept floating through Second City in Detroit. When do you meet Tim Robinson? So I met Tim Robinson? So I met Tim Robinson early on into this and I got in his class when I was 18.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Oh no kidding! You started as student teacher? Started as student teacher. I was 18, he was 21. Okay so he was incredibly young as well going through this. Fast friends, thick as thieves, he would sneak me into bars, you know. Not hard in Detroit. Method was easy. Get snuck in, grab a beer, come out and talk to the bouncer a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Give me a beer in my hand. So you're like, this is hum, hum, hum, hum, hum. So now you identify me. I was in a regular at this bar called Seven Brothers. You should have known that I was 18 years old, because I would always be like, hey, can I have a white Russian, please?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Oh, nice. I'm exclusively drinking white Russians like I'm the dude. It's because it's like an ice cream. So I'm just like, can you please give me the sweetest, nicest thing, this dive bar in Hamtraming? And they would have to go get cream so that I could have my thing. Because it was there so much that they were like,
Starting point is 00:41:16 well, we gotta have our creams so Sam can have his white Russians, this teen. The owner, his name was George Spetnofsky, he just died recently, he was like my surrogate grandfather, essentially. Because it was there so much much we would always hang out. He was a Macedonian man who also had like a thousand lives, but he owned this bar.
Starting point is 00:41:30 So then I had my 21st birthday at Seven Brothers. And George is like, happy birthday, Sam. How old are you? And I'm like, I'm 21, George. He's like, you son of a bitch. He didn't talk to me for like six months because he was so mad. Disappointed at his grandson.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Could have ruined his dream. You end up going to Chicago though as well, right? Yes, I got hired to work on a second city cruise ship. And is that a blast? It was a blast because I was like 22. I think I turned 23 on this ship. What route were you on? The Caribbean, so we were going to Barbados, Samana, Cozumel, St. Lucia.
Starting point is 00:42:10 How were you not showing back up on the boat hammered for the show or are you? We only had show one night. Oh god. Seven Day Cruise. We had our show on like Wednesday, a seven o'clock and a nine o'clock show of Best of Second City and then we do two shows on Sunday, an eight o'clock improv show and then like a ten o'clock and a nine o'clock show of Best of Second City. And then we do two shows on Sunday, an eight o'clock improv show, and then like a ten o'clock adults improv show. Oh my lord.
Starting point is 00:42:29 So I'm working five hours at the most, including like a workshop. And then I'm on vacation. I'm living on vacation. You could probably get trapped in that. Oh my goodness. I felt myself atrophying also. I'm 22, mind you. Oh boy. The buffets. The buffets.
Starting point is 00:42:44 If you want to get nasty, you spend $20 and then you go to Steakhouse, it's all you could eat. Oh baby. Oh wow. $15 for the sushi bar. $25 for the French restaurant. This is not an exaggeration. I went one time with my ex-girlfriend, Brie,
Starting point is 00:42:58 on a family trip and I weighed myself at the hotel in Orlando and I was 185 and then when I got off the boat, I weighed myself and I was 198. 13 pounds in a week. That's a small dog. Yeah, if I had stayed on that boat for another few months I would have come off on a wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:43:14 My first cast I did two tours. I did two tours of dude, exactly. Both five months long with a month in between. Five months of vacation. Five months of vacation. I had a nickname, they called me Colossal Sam, because I could just sit down and I could eat. I'd be like, oh, I'll make you pay for $20
Starting point is 00:43:30 for the steakhouse, you fools. I'll make you rue the day. The chef will be crying when I leave. He'll be like, please stop, this was the food for the week. I had the same commitment every time I went to Sizzler. Unlimited chicken wings, we'll see. We'll see how much oil you have back there.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Ah! What's the policy on banging the gas, the other passengers? You weren't supposed to. Of course. But we were passengers who had crew status. Once again, you're in another world of identity. You're not a crew, you're not a passenger.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Then I'm like, so young, it would be college time. Supposed to be at a kegger, but my kegger is at sea. Just free time. All of us so young and had young bodies and young excitement. There's dancers on the cruise. Children become friends with. The bar staff.
Starting point is 00:44:12 The bar staff, exactly. The guy that DJs. The crew staff, exactly, all this. And they call it ship life, as in like, what happens on the ship stays on the ship. Some shady stuff happening also. People who are like, behaving like you don't have a home life. Ooh, that's hard.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Because when you're at sea, you're not on Earth. What a wild experience. It really was. So I did a five month contract, and while I was on that first contract, I could see Detroit closed. I closed and I didn't save any money because I was living like I was on vacation.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I was making the most money I'd ever made, like $1,000 a week, and I was like, I'm rich. And I'm spending money in Barbados, I'm spending money in, you know? Are you gambling at all? We're not allowed to gamble, which I'm lying, because I would gamble when we go to like, NASA. That's what I'm thinking, when you get to shore,
Starting point is 00:44:53 go into the Atlantis and let it rip. Specifically the Atlantis. One time I was playing three-card poker at the Atlantis, and the worst thing ever happened to me, I was sitting one seat from the left, so it was like the second seat. I was sitting one seat from the left, so I was like second seat. I am playing three card poker. The guy to my right stands up
Starting point is 00:45:10 and the guy sits down to my left. The next hand, the guy gets a royal flush and I'm like, that was my hand. Oh! That was my hand. Oh man. That'll destroy you. I think about it every day.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I have a very similar situation. I'm more culpable in that fall. It was like punk did just come out. I'm starting to get these weird offers to go do things. So one is like, do you wanna come announce something for Nokia at the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans on your birthday, you can bring friends. It's my birthday, going to this casino,
Starting point is 00:45:45 and I'm playing video poker, and it deals me a royal flush. And I just stare at it, and stare at it, and stare at it. And then I say to Aaron, who's there with me, I'm like, look at this, what is, and we don't know what to do. We don't know why it's not paying out. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And we stare at it for so long, and eventually he's like, I don't know if I say, or he's saying, am I supposed to just hit the cash out or whatever? What I was supposed to do is save each one. Yep, because that's what you do in video poker. Oh no. Can you believe that?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Oh no. So I hit a button and it just went away. How about this three of clubs and this five of diamonds? Oh my God. I think about that very regularly. I would have won $1,200. You didn't feel like asking someone when everything was so long.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Well, we stared at it for so long and we're like, why aren't bells and whistles going on? And you're like, oh, this must be something simple. Let me just push this button. And then it just went, oh, man, that hurts. See, mine's the worst because I have some definite personal responsibility. You got boss.
Starting point is 00:46:41 It happened to me. I was doing everything right. And then just like the table had to shut down because they're gonna pit boss in there. And I'm like, show that on the camera. Show him getting up and show him sitting down. This is my hand. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I'd been sitting at that table for like 45 minutes. I think it was like $10,000. Oh. I'm so mad still. I would have spent all that on booze and Barbados. You would have walked. I would have died. I would have died.
Starting point is 00:47:04 In the next hour. For real. I can't lose. Got a hot hand. Got a hot hand, folks. Boy, what's the lowest odds thing in this casino? I'm going hard at it. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:14 So I would have gotten this moment, you gotta get out of here and you gotta fucking get going. Yes, because I felt myself atrophying. I enjoyed it a whole lot, but the whole time I was like, I gotta move to LA. Even the improv, it became kind of repetitive. Everybody learns the tricks, and I was trying really hard to not do the tricks,
Starting point is 00:47:29 but then everybody wanted to do the tricks, it's like, it's easy. Boom, boom. And you know the show would be great. They're not a comedy crowd. They're checking out this thing for the first time. Yeah, it would drive me nuts, because we have sketch,
Starting point is 00:47:37 and then they had windows of improv. But then in those improv windows, if there was a suggestion that was similar, I would improvise something at seven o'clock. At nine o'clock, they would try and like bring it back I'm like no no we did that already yeah so I was really excited to get up but then they hired me to the touring company Second City so then at that second ship I moved to Chicago after two years of that got hired to the main stage wrote two shows
Starting point is 00:47:56 on the main stage Tim and I got hired the same day so we get to like write these shows and perform these shows together awesome every day eight shows a week six days a week we'd go out and drink every night, six nights a week, and then on Mondays was our off day, so then we'd just hang out at a different bar. Yeah, start earlier. Start earlier, exactly. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Wild. Oh, what a time. So what age do you get to LA? And are you afraid to leave there? Because life's good. I was ready to go. We ran those shows for a year. You're doing the exact same show six days a week,
Starting point is 00:48:23 eight times a week. It's the point where you're on autopilot. Just kind of thinking about my day while I'm like saying comedy lines. It got to the point where if you thought about what you're saying, you'd mess up. Boom, you know? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Crazy. If not that, then we're trying to fuck with each other. And then Tim had left and I was like, I'm also gonna, because I auditioned for SNL twice. I did two screen tests. I got the point where I was like, I was super nervous the first time. I didn't know what to expect.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Second time I was like, oh, okay. But I was going to write a third show only because I was trying to audition again. I was like, oh, well, I don't want to do that to my experience at Second City or to my cast is to be here to write audition material. I'm gonna leave, my time is done. Had Tim gone to SNL?
Starting point is 00:48:59 Tim hadn't gone to SNL. He just left, he was still in Chicago. He just left the main stage. So then I moved to LA February of 2012, 28. How quickly from when you get here, do you have an agent and you get these six episodes of The Office? I went there with an agent and managers because of SNL.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Oh, okay. Alison Jones had come to see my show in Chicago. And she's a casting director? She's a casting director. One of the biggest ones. She cast The Office, she cast so much. Alison Jones had come to see my show in Chicago. And she's a casting director? She's a casting director. One of the biggest ones. She cast The Office, she casts so much. So I went in to meet her and she was like,
Starting point is 00:49:30 I will get you working. Just come out here. So I'm like, oh, okay. And I'd been so close on things as well where I would send in tapes from Chicago. I'd get callback and callback and callback where I'm partially improvising and I'd see the sides and these sides had my improv in them.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Oh, what's that? And then they would go with local hire. So then my people were just like, all right, it's time to move. where I'm partially improvising and I'd see the sides and these sides had my improv in them. I, you know? And then they would go with local hire. So then my people were just like, all right, it's time to move. And so I moved and then Alison Jones gets me on The Office and then Alison Jones also casts the rest of the elements in episode of The Rest of the Development, but then she also casts Veep.
Starting point is 00:49:58 She really is the greatest. She's the greatest. Cause you're naming the very best comedic cast ever assembled. When you walk into The Office and it's the greatest. Because you're naming the very best comedic cast ever assembled. When you walk into the office and it's the last season, they know each other like they're siblings. Are you intimidated? Are you comfy there?
Starting point is 00:50:14 I'm learning there. I'm intimidated a little bit, but I'm also just very excited. I'm taking pictures of myself in the makeup chair. The part was supposed to be a little bit bigger than it was. I was supposed to come in as Jim's college roommate. We start a sports management company together in Philadelphia Also, like it's the last season you're gonna introduce a new character
Starting point is 00:50:33 Right lay a lot of track the whole time I'm learning so much about how takes work where to sit for a camera the thing you just said about the auditions I auditioned for commercials for eight years and I never got them But I on several occasions saw the commercial on TV and it had an improv I had done in the thing That was really specific right? Yeah, like oh man. You didn't hire me, but you I'm like, huh? I took that thing. Okay check for writing then or something I'm freaking starving and you don't have what you want. So you're very bitter about it Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:02 the greatest advice that was ever given to me at the groundlings is I had done a sketch and then it was very very Identically done shortly thereafter on Saturday Night Live and it was a very unique thing and I was really wound up about it Maybe it was in my mind But this person said to me if you think that's your last great idea You should get a lawyer and sue and go all the way to the mat But if you think you have infinite great ideas keep rolling rolling. 100%. That's great advice to give. But if you had done it, you're like, I gotta get a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Okay, great, I'll take option A. You have a suggestion of one? No great counsel. My character's name is Anchorman. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. Wait, two minutes on Alice in Gents, I just have to do this. Before I moved out here,
Starting point is 00:51:41 I like to learn absolutely everything about everything. She was a celebrity to me, knowing what she cast, all the Apatow movies, all these shows that I was obsessed with. When I got to audition for her, I was like, I made it. I don't even have to book it. She's like a king and queen maker in comedy. And she's so nice.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So nice. Which is so strange. She has the right to be mean or scary. Like catty and just like a little... Exactly. There was a... I'm gonna talk the ill of someone, but I can't. I can't even remember the name specifically.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I auditioned for the CBS Showcase. I was about to be in it and then the lady who was running it was so rude. And I was like, I'm not coming back. And I didn't. I'm excited to make it and to have these opportunities, but I don't want to sacrifice... Who you are. Who I am. I'm excited to make it and to have these opportunities, but I don't want to sacrifice who I am. I'm so frustrated I'm not immediately gonna start casting aside
Starting point is 00:52:28 the things I think make me... Yes. You had some conviction. Well, that's the advantage of having established yourself very young comedically. You had a point of view when you arrived here. It almost sounds like you had some wherewithal to say, I want this to be a certain experience, regardless of the outcome. I really did, and I still do this.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I have like a vision of what I want out of the world or out of my career, and I try to do things that match that, and I try and avoid things that don't. Sometimes I can't help but play, Monday morning quarterback doesn't even work anymore because they have Monday night football. Tuesday morning quarterback.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Tuesday morning quarterback, and I'm like, I should have done that movie. I didn't do it if I felt it was going to be the exact same thing I've done before, or if I thought that it was going to paint a picture of me in an audience's mind that I couldn't recover from, typecast me. When I'm at home, I'm like, oh, I've got three weeks off. I'm like, I shouldn't have three weeks off. I want to be on a movie right now.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I have to fight that. I also just always want to be doing it because it's what I love. So I have to kind of fight the regrets of my convictions. What's the biggest one you have? Recently there was a movie, I don't want to say specifically. Wolverine. I didn't want to say it. Yeah, $200 million opening.
Starting point is 00:53:37 $200 million. Offered me three points. I said I need four and a half or it's a non-negotiable. You know this Matt Damon story. I was just about to say it. You know this Matt Damon story. I was just about to say it. You know the Matt Damon story? No. He turned down Avatar and he was offered,
Starting point is 00:53:49 I think, five percent of it. A percentage of what? Something huge. Oh my god. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Of the franchise? Yes. Disney doesn't have five percent of the franchise.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Of all the movies that were to come. I mean, insane. Oh my god. Yeah, incredible, right? Luckily, he made his own hundreds of millions, but still, wow, I mean insane. Oh my god. Yeah, incredible right? Luckily he made his own hundreds of millions, but still, wow what a thing. Because it wasn't really a script or anything at first, and so he was like, ah no.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And I think he had something else that also was gonna happen, but yes, that was a biggie. Oh my lord. Okay so Veep for me is when I discover you personally. Back to your compliment of Allison, it's probably the best cast of a TV show ever. Outside of myself, I agree. Every person that pops up is a comedy 10. And everybody plays in tandem so well.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It was such a lightning in a bottle, perfectly steered ship. I learned so much on the set of Veep. Also about how to behave on set. You know, you kind of like watch how Julia moves and you watch how Tony moves. And everybody respects each other and everybody like really loves each other. And then when it comes to comedy, everybody's flowing.
Starting point is 00:54:53 So when I got cast, it was supposed to be for one episode. And I remember I get to the table read and I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna really have to steal myself for when I do these lines and like everybody just kind of pushes through it. And remember I read my first line and I got a laugh and they laughed like legitimately and I was like, whoa, so giving.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I was invigorated. And then to find out that after that, the process was that they put the scripts aside and then you go and you re-improvise them in the next room with the writers writing. Oh really? Wow. And I'm like, oh, this is Second City.
Starting point is 00:55:23 This is my skill set. And so I was able to do that. And then on the day, you get the script and the bits of the improvs in there. And I'm like, I'm valued. Yeah. It was so much fun. That's as good as it gets as an actor. You guys shot that in D.C.?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Shot that in Baltimore. Oh, in Baltimore. I joined season three. So seasons one through four were in Baltimore. And then it moved to L.A. for a 537. Were you sad when it was over? Or you had popped, and you really had some opportunities coming off of that, so were you anxious to get to those opportunities?
Starting point is 00:55:50 I would have done Veep for the rest of my life. I love that show so much. I thought we were going to do eight. The world made it kind of hard to make a show that lampoons and politics is like stranger than fiction. Anything you could write. There would be things, and absolutely, we had a film six months ago,
Starting point is 00:56:06 and it happens. Real life. Real life, a month before the show comes out. And then it feels like, oh, did you write this because of this? It's like, no. Also, it became a little more stressful to watch the show, because it was like, this is real now.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It's not as funny because it's happening. And the idiocracy had almost the opposite trajectory, which is like it was too fucking absurd for people to even wrap their head around them more and more. It was like, oh wow, this isn't that absurd. Reality. Okay, so after that you get to do, or during that really, that's very cool that they allowed you to be a cast member
Starting point is 00:56:39 full-time and do Detroiters. It worked out very well because our writers' room for Detroiters was on the Paramount lot and that's where we shot V. So I was able to in between scenes go sit in the room so it kind of worked out perfectly. Okay, I think I was turned on to Detroiters because of the Dietrich Furze commercial.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah. And I'm gonna try not to make this too esoteric Monica, I'm gonna try. And I don't know if this is unique to Detroit, too esoteric, Monica. I'm gonna try. And I don't know if this is unique to Detroit, it can't be, you can answer me for Atlanta. We had so many local commercials and they're such a part of Detroit.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I was at a Blackjack table in Laughlin, Nevada 20 years ago and a guy sitting next to me says he's from Detroit and I said, me and dog are going down the telegraph road right now get a good deal and he immediately started singing Matt here dog come on dog and then Mel for superstar far better deal Fantastic. I feel like it was a golden era of local TV It really was and we already talked about but they ran for my entire childhood always the D drink for commercial Monica was a woman riding a horse in a fur coat and probably nothing else a probably nothing else
Starting point is 00:58:00 Oh, but they left that for the imagination Yeah, but you didn't have like pants on and like, writing, and it's like a kind of slow motion, and it's like this person's singing, they're like, ooh, Dietrich Furs. Oh, wow, very soft. What's the end of that song? Ooh, Dietrich Furs, from the Dietrich family. Yes!
Starting point is 00:58:20 And then you guys really lean in, it was like, ooh, ooh, Devereaux. We made Devereaux wigs. Devereaux wigs. Devereaux wigs. Which again, too, if you were in Detroit in the 90s, four out of every five storefronts was a wig shop. More wigs per capita than probably any place on the planet. Commercial, the grain of that thing,
Starting point is 00:58:42 it was from like 1972. Yeah, it was wearing out real time. Like when I saw it when I was six versus 14 that film was degrading Businesses are lasting many many years. These refers was like 1930 Beaver trading company from the turn of the century. And in an era where the fur was really going out of style. Becoming less and less. Double down on it. That woman you see very aspirational on the horse.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Oh my god. Just one last one I want to know if you had seen as a kid a bunch. We build them big, we build them small. We're father and son. No job too big, no job too small. No job too big, no job too small. No job too big, no job too small. We're father and son. We'll do it all.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Wow. We're father and son. We'll get it done. For any problem you need done. No job too big, no job too small. We're father and son. Give us a call. Boom! And that one was a cartoon and it had like two lumberjack builders
Starting point is 00:59:48 and they put pieces of a house together. And they build it. Oh yeah. God, it makes me feel so safe and good. I loved it. I loved it so much. Well, you passed the test. You remembered the words really good.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Big test. But yeah, you ever meet someone from Detroit, you just yell, hey dog, and you're gonna get the rest. Come on, dog! Me and dog are watching on the rest. Come on dog! Me and dog are watching the telegraph roll right now. Get a good deal. So Detroiters was just you guys doing that, doing local ads. So good.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And actually in order, so I saw you on Veep, loved that. And then I started watching, of course, I think you should leave. It's just the very best. it's the very, very best. I also love Tim and Eric so much, but somewhere on the spectrum between Tim and Eric and Serent Live. Tim and Eric are big influences on us. We were so into Tim and Eric, and are so into Tim and Eric.
Starting point is 01:00:36 That DNA, you can see it. They were so my part. Heidecker is in I Think You Should Leave. And then there's a lot of nods. There's an Odenkirk scene where he's telling the kid about his cars. Kid about his cars. Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah, there's a lot of nods to all the institutions that came before. You can tell there's a lot of respect for comedy in it. Yeah. But yeah, you hosting the little buff boys competition, I think it's about as good as it possibly gets. Gotta come up. Gotta come up when the boss comes up.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Come on, do these little boys. Do these little buff bodies. So many of those sketches, especially my sketches, are like 13 minutes long. Oh, right, sure, sure. And it gets edited down to like three minutes. Yeah, I'm really, really envious of you and Tim because to me it feels like me and my best friend Aaron Winkley
Starting point is 01:01:26 But he didn't go into show business, but like if we're together Within 45 seconds we have some joke that's annoying everybody in the room, and it's so weirdly esoteric We have such a specific sense of humor and it's maddening to everyone else and I'm like, oh, yeah You got to do that professionally. Professionally exactly. We have to do that on the stage of Second City. We have to do that every night. Yeah, man, that's hitting the lottery right there. So Ted Lasso comes along. Also, I gotta throw in the after party. I say this about you all the time,
Starting point is 01:01:54 and this is nothing away from anyone else. You're always the best thing in anything I see. You're always the best thing in everything we watch that you're in, we come in, we agree. And in impossible situations. You're always surrounded by incredible people too. Yeah, Tiffany Haddish and Ike Barron-Holts and the after party.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Dad. Stay tuned for more Farmature Expert, if you dare. So Ted Lasso, how did that come about? I think it was a very interesting time for the company, because it was a very important time So Ted Lasso, how did that come about? And that ends up getting you nominated twice for Emmys and then winning one. So Joe Kelly co-created Detroiters with me and Tim and Zach Cannon and Jason Sudeikis was an executive producer of Detroiters. Oh, he was?
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. In fact, Jason was like, you and Tim need to do a show. And had Tim met him at SNL? So we met him because he would come through Second City. He's a Second City alumni.
Starting point is 01:02:51 So he would come and like play the sets and those who we would improvise with him. So then when Tim went to SNL, that's how Tim met Joe. And I had met Joe when I came out to LA. Joe and Jason worked together at Second City Las Vegas. The camp was made that way. So when we made Detroiters, it was Tim and Zach who they become writing partners at SNL.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And Joe, who was also at SNL at that time, and me. So it's gotta be a show about the two of them. And we were like, it's gotta be about Detroit. So you make this show. So years later, Joe co-creates Ted Lasso with Jason and Bill and Brendan Hunt. I didn't know Bill at that time. Well, actually, and we're saying Bill Lawrence.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Bill Lawrence, yeah. Bill was a fan of Veep, got a little bit of a follow and follow back. Yeah, he's good at DMing people. For me, I'm like, oh my goodness, that's wild. Scrubs is like going all the time. I remember watching Ted Lasso the first season because it was mid-pandemic, and I'm like, oh my goodness, that's wild. Scrubs is like going all times. I remember watching Ted Lasso the first season, because it was mid-pandemic, and I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:48 I gotta see my homie's show. And I'm watching it, and I'm like, this is so wonderful. And then I'm like, what can this character, Sam Obasanye, text Joe? I'm like, is Sam me? And he's like, of course, buddy. Oh, wow! So they planted the seed before they hired you.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Or, and Jason was always like, oh, wouldn't you do something Ghanaian? I'm like, yeah, I'll find the thing. They sent the character, it was written for me, which is also something that was different than anything I'd done before. Accent excluded, he was able to be charming and then mean.
Starting point is 01:04:18 And you have all the status. And highest status, not give handshakes, and was like, oh, but it's all in charm. But playing with that status the whole time, very aware of it, but then like, trying to act like it's not a thing. I love it. And the accent, you must have grown up imitating mom.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Yeah, exactly, all my Ghanaian family. And what I was trying to do with that accent, even people I know in Ghana who are like very wealthy and England educated to have that sort of English accent on the Ghanaian accent, just also trying to be somebody. So that was like a fun layer to get to put on top of that. By the way, when you were younger and you were in Ghana, would you affected that accent a bit more
Starting point is 01:04:54 while you were there? That's how you hear everything. Or even just like words that aren't the same. So instead of saying soft drink or pop or whatever, you say mineral. Can I have mineral? It's like a mineral water, which means soft drink. Let me have mineral.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Was it fun winning it, Emmy? I didn't expect to win it. So when you won, you had written something, but you were like, I'm gonna write this, but I'm not gonna say this. I was just hanging it in my pocket, even for superstition. But I was even going through the superstition,
Starting point is 01:05:15 I was like, is writing it what makes me not win it? Yeah, of course. It's hard to know what the gods want. Exactly. It's like, you gotta be humble enough to win it. Exactly. Which means if you're super humble, you wouldn't write it. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:27 But then you gotta write it. You gotta write it so that you're not up there being like, huh, I didn't write anything anyway. You don't wanna be an asshole. Who's out there? Tim won an Emmy the year before for I Think You Should Leave. We see it at different tables.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I see a piece of paper on the floor. I'm like, I'm just gonna grab that. And it's Tim Speaks. What? And I'm like, Tim, is this yours? I'm like, I'm just gonna grab that. And it's Tim's speech. What? And I'm like, Tim, is this yours? And he's like, yes. He would have been in so much trouble, but I'm the one who finds that speech.
Starting point is 01:05:52 No. And I know his handwriting. It was very wild. No, and you're both there. And we're both there. And so then this time, Tim also wins his Emmy. So we have to win our Emmys the same day as well. So special.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I think you should leave. Pretty wild. I think you guys should get married. You know? I want the option. Okay, Sausage Party. I have to say, I didn't see the movie, but I've watched the TV show.
Starting point is 01:06:17 At first it starts, I'm always looking, our kids are nine and 11, and they're starting to really come online. They just completely binged Brooklyn Nine-Nine, the entire thing. They love Curb Your Enthusiasm. So it starts and I'm like, yeah, this is gonna be a fun cartoon for us.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Oh no. And then all the food starts fucking each other. Yes, it's naughty. Fuck each other forever. Forever, forever. I can't believe how much of the animation budget is probably funneled just into the fucking. Because it's the most complicated animation they have
Starting point is 01:06:49 is all this groin rubbing. Groin rubbing is like so much specific motions. Yeah, there's no like set assets. They don't just replicate the fucking. Each one is individual fucking. And creative. Had you seen the movie? I had, I saw the movie in theaters when it came out.
Starting point is 01:07:06 This was eight years ago, and I loved it. And you play an orange. Yeah, I play a megalomaniac orange named Julius. The reason why he's an orange isn't to parallel a real life dictator, but it's because oranges have anuses. Oh. Because the name of an orange looks like a big old butthole. It does, like a prolapsed anus.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And when we meet you, you're getting your salad tossed. Exactly. Oh wow. Yeah, just right off the bat. Good intro. Yeah, your first line is while getting your. This is getting fully rimmed. Oh my God, what's it on? Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Okay, wow. Good for Amazon. Yeah. You're carving out a really great voiceover career. I just really love animation and I love voiceover. Yeah, it's kind of as close as you can get to doing sketch without seeming so broad and terrible as an actor. It's like where you can let that loose maybe.
Starting point is 01:07:58 You just do the biggest thing. It's countered by just the imagination of whatever the look of the animation is. I truly love it. So any opportunity I get, I wanna do it, I wanna do it well. It must be fun. I'm envious of this.
Starting point is 01:08:11 There's debate on whether I wanna say jealous or envious. I want you to have all this. So I don't want you to not have it. But you are a comedian's comedian. You're someone all comedians like. So I imagine you keep getting invited into these camps. So it's like, now you're invited into SES camp. And is that radical?
Starting point is 01:08:26 I love all the stuff that he does. Like I did the movie Good Boys. It's a cool camp to be in, because funny people who make funny things and are cool, genuine people, that's who you want to hang out with and who you want to like collaborate with. Yeah, I think the comedy is almost even second
Starting point is 01:08:41 as impressive as the work ethic and output of him. There's been only a handful of people who had all the different assets. Yep, the output is phenomenal. It's staggering. Staggering. And then he's a full-time potter as well. Full-time potter, it is a full-time pottery business.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah, well he really counters the stereotype of a stoner. Yeah, affable, funny stoner who worked so hard and has his hands in so many different pots, pun. Literally. Yeah, three ways, pottery, marijuana pot. Yep, yep. And business pots. It's rare you get a triple pun, congrats.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Very rare, I'm very proud of it. I'm very, very proud of it. I think they're gonna bring a plaque for me. Next, you're in the new Star Trek? The new Star Trek, so section 31, it says Star Trek movie. I had a really great time. I'm a Star Trek fan my whole life,
Starting point is 01:09:34 so I know every iteration of it, the motion pictures, the Shatner movies, the Picard movies. I didn't watch the TV show, but I gotta say I loved the Chris Pine version. Loved the J.J. Abrams. The J.J. Abrams 2009, as we call it. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yeah. You know, in a weird way too, it's also a little bit of a financial safety net, because you do one of these, in the worst case scenario, you can go to these conventions the rest of your life. Exactly. Yeah, very smart. They already wrapped it, can I get in there?
Starting point is 01:10:01 I wouldn't mind signing a couple headshots down the road. Who do you play in that? So I play a physicist shapeshifter, what's called a cameloid. This is the second time there's ever been a cameloid in Star Trek, and the first time was Iman in Star Trek 6. Oh wow.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah. Cool. They only do supermodels. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually very funny. With Iman, it's like, this is a shape-shifter. You want to look good. Yeah, I'll make myself Iman.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah. And for me, it's like, I want to look good. I'm going to make myself Sam Richardson. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I'm like, I accept it. You point out. That's right. You take that in.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Well, Sam, it's so delightful. I thought it would be just like this. Favorite ride at Cedar Point? Not the Demon Drop. I'd be lying. It's the Magnum. Magnum XJ220? Yes sir, I did the Demon Drop one time in my life
Starting point is 01:10:47 and I'll never do it again. Did you put a quarter on your knee? I didn't. You didn't. I was too scared. Describe them both. The Demon Drop is literally just like a free fall drop. They bring you up a few hundred feet in the air
Starting point is 01:10:56 and then it just falls. Yeah. And if you put a quarter on your knee cap, it'll come up in the air and spin. And I think that was in the commercial. I think so. I think they're everywhere, yeah, but we'll pretend it only exists in Cedar Point. It was called agoraphobia. Because of the age gap for me, it'll always be in the air and spin. And I think that was in the commercial. I think so. I think they're everywhere, yeah, but we'll pretend it only exists in Cedar Park.
Starting point is 01:11:06 It was kinda agoraphobia. Because of the age gap for me, it'll always be the Gemini. Well, the Gemini, I love Gemini. Best wooden roller coaster. Wooden roller coaster. Oh! But just a little too, too many sounds that thing makes.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Too much noise. The best thing about the Gemini is you're in line for a while. It's a hit ride. And you're staring at it and it's an enormous wood roller coaster. You're hearing all this creaking and you're staring at the wood and you're like enormous wood rollercoaster. You're hearing all this creaking, and you're staring at the wood, and you're like, those are pretty thin pieces of wood.
Starting point is 01:11:27 It's doing a lot of the work of the ride for you, getting you scared of the structural integrity before you get on. But only to be way suppressed by this silver streak, which is truly dangerous. You could fly right out. They never updated the restraint system. The safety thing.
Starting point is 01:11:43 You get air, like you go over a hill. And your feet or your butt is like. Yeah, way off. And it's not even a great roller coaster, but you're not in there. You're basically just sitting on a bleacher. Is Magnum, does it go upside down? Are you guys upside down roller coasters, guys?
Starting point is 01:11:56 Yes, but that wasn't its primary selling point. The primary selling point was at the time it was built, it was the tallest free fall and it went the fastest. It went the fastest. And it held that record for a few. And I think they beat it with the Millennium Force, and that one people were like passing out. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:12:13 As it should be. There should always be a couple rides there that can hurt you. Exactly, you gotta respect the world. Did you ever go in matching outfits with a girlfriend? I didn't. I went in matching t-shirts with groups, like with family members. I wish the world. Did you ever go and matching outfits with a girlfriend? I didn't. I went and matched t-shirts with groups, like with family members.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I wish I had. I know, I always saw those couples and I was pretty jealous I didn't put it together. But I was there on the prowl. Yeah. I knew a little better place. At Cedar Point, you're in that line forever and you're like peeping babes
Starting point is 01:12:41 and then you're gonna cross. You're in love with that babe for like 15 minutes and then you see another babe and then you're in love with heres and then you're gonna cross. You're in love with that babe for like 15 minutes and then you see another babe and then you're in love with her for 12 minutes. Yeah, fuck. I picked out my babe too soon. Sorry babe, can't be held down. I gotta move on.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I gotta move on. There's another babe in my mind that I'll never say hi to. Oh. I'm going the whole world with. What a time. In the instant. Okay, well I'm gonna land this plane
Starting point is 01:13:02 but I just hope we're somehow in Michigan together at some point. Yeah, I hope so. That could be so fun. I really wanna go to Cedar Point, I wanna take my kids. I want to, I haven't been in forever, and I just need to go. Well listen, if we plan a trip,
Starting point is 01:13:14 because my other thing was, we didn't have any money, so you would drive there in the morning, then you'd drive home at night. The same time, yep. And that drive home was perilous. My grandpa was rubbing spit in his eyes to stay awake, he was guzzling coffee, Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And hitting the shoulder occasionally. Yeah. It was a long day for the to stay awake, he was guzzling coffee, and hitting the shoulder occasionally. It was a long day for the grandparents. Yeah, well I bet. And I always want to stay at one of those hotels. Yeah, me too. And I want to go, Sam, I want to get the biggest room in Sandusky. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Don't you want to go big time at that? Exactly, just really just. Fuck, play all the games. Show them Rockefeller style. Yeah. Give me the pass. Or wear matching outfits. I Fucking play all the games. Show them Rockefeller style. Yeah. Give me the pass. Or wear matching outfits. I'm truly all for it.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Me too. You and your girl, Chris and I, all four of us, four matching outfits, fuck. All right, I'm putting this on the like, sincere need to make it happen in my lifetime. Absolutely. I'm in. All right, well Sam, this has been great.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Everyone watch Sausage Party Food-Topia. I feel like the. It's shaking, yay. Yeah, okay. What's going on? I felt like the... It's shaking, yay. Yeah, okay. What's going on? I felt like... It was shaking, yeah, right? It was, right?
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yeah. It could be any number of things. Exactly. It could be an earthquake, it could be the construction that's happening below us. Yes, yes. It could be we're on a fault line. I know.
Starting point is 01:14:16 California. So sorry, Sausage Party Foodtopia on Amazon Prime now. Sam, come back, you're gonna be in A Thousand More Funny Things that you'll be the best thing in and we'll wanna talk to you again. I'll come back anytime. All gonna be in a thousand more funny things that you'll be the best thing in and we'll want to talk to you again. I'll come back anytime. Alright, be well.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Thank you. Stay tuned for the fact check so you can hear all the facts that were wrong. Oh, pajamas. Like a grandpa. Grandpa jammies. Grant... Grandpa jammies. Grandpa jammies. Grammys, but then that's confusing.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Yeah. Gratjamas. Gratpiamas? Yeah, because you don't like piamas, right? Because it reminds you, it's triggering. It's Spanish. What? It's Spanish.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Why, maybe it specifically reminded you of the nighttime, the sleep nurse. Yeah, she said Piamas. Ew, I hate her. Do you think that was it though? No, I didn't know that she said that. Speaking of Spanish speaking, I'm reading a beautiful book right now.
Starting point is 01:15:24 I think you might really like it. Oh, what is it? It's called The World I See Spanish speaking. I'm reading a beautiful book right now. I think you might really like it. Oh, what is it? It's called The World I See by Dr. I think Fifi Li, F-E-I-F-E-I Li. She's a professor. She had to testify in front of Congress about AI. She's like a genius professor, but also came here from China in 11th grade.
Starting point is 01:15:44 So the book is like her personal story paired with like what she learned about computer science. So beautifully written. And the people that come here and cannot speak and get dropped into high school, none of us have ever overcome something. Like I'm whining about dyslexia, like holy shit, if you can survive that.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Yeah, I know. Yeah, and she saw some really rough stuff. People are mean to her. Well, there's like an ESL class she's in and like some boy just brushes some other boy's backpack, like barely nothing, and the guy explodes and like beats him up really bad in front of everybody, and there's blood everywhere, and she's like, the beating was one thing,
Starting point is 01:16:29 but how his spirit was broken after that, it's just soul crushing. People are so mean to other people. I know, well it's like chimp crazy. You watched it. Have you started it? No. Oh my Lord. We had a guest on who suggested this and you freaked out. Yeah, Easter Egg, upcoming guests,
Starting point is 01:16:49 said are you watching Chimp Crazy? And it's insane I wasn't. Well, I just didn't know, but anything labeled Chimp I'm gonna watch. Yeah, you're in. But for anyone who's unaware of it, it is by the filmmaker who made Tiger King. And it's the same shit.
Starting point is 01:17:03 It's these people who want wild animals. There's a type. But, so then of course this guest who suggested it, I text her saying like, holy smokes, are you right? That's so good. And then she sent me an article in the New York Magazine about a completely different story of this woman who got a young champ.
Starting point is 01:17:23 They had him for five years. He was great. Everyone in town loved him. The cops loved him. He was a sweetheart. And then he became sexually mature. Oh no. And you know what it says in this article?
Starting point is 01:17:35 How many times do you think male chimps have sex in a day in the wild? You know, real guess. And I'll tell you what my guess was. 14. I would have guessed five to 10. Okay. And they're only awake for 12 hours.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Sure. A male chimp has sex 50 times a day. Ew, wow. Monica, this is an animal that's designed to have sex 50 times a day and that's living in a household with humans. And then the New York Magazine article is fascinating. Let me see if I can give you the title of it.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Travis the Menace. He was the most famous ape in America, but to really understand a chimp, you have to know his mother. What did the mother do? Really fascinating story. This woman, I think born in the 30s in Connecticut, has one husband, they get divorced, meets another guy.
Starting point is 01:18:26 They build these businesses together. They become pretty wealthy. They buy a big compound, they're into horses. She starts riding horses. She has a daughter, she loves her daughter. They're out and they go to some rodeo show in another part of the country to do their barrel racing. And they see a chimp riding a horse
Starting point is 01:18:43 and they really like the chimp. And then she kind of bonds with the chimp. And then the chimp's in the middle of his horse routine and he jumps off his horse and then runs and jumps on her in the audience and gives her a hug and then runs back. Okay, she gave him a gummy bear. Oh, yeah. So then she contacted Ding, Ding, Ding,
Starting point is 01:19:00 the same woman this doc is about. This is in this, I don't know what year this is, maybe eighties or something. And she gets Travis, this chimp, and she has this very, very close relationship with her daughter too. And then the daughter, oh, she gets the chimp when her daughter leaves, she meets a man and moves away
Starting point is 01:19:16 and it's heartbreaking to her. And then, I don't wanna ruin the story because it's a twisty and turning incredible story, but it is both about chimps, but also what you can take from this article is like, life is weirdly long. It's short, but it's long. It's like, you can be on top of the mountain
Starting point is 01:19:34 and they have the business and then your daughter leaves and then this person in your life dies and this person gets cancer. And then you can just be like, you can be at the lowest point after achieving quote safety, right? And you can be at your darkest hour and then you can just be like, you can be at the lowest point after achieving quote safety. And you can be at your darkest hour and then you can get desperate
Starting point is 01:19:49 and you can make weird decisions. And then there can be another upswing and then there's this creature, they're dealing with this creature. It's just wild and life is precarious. It is, it is. There are car accidents and there are these, there are cancers and there's all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Yeah. Yeah, it's just very precarious. And I guess when I was reading it, I was like, man, when the sun's out, you just gotta really fucking embrace it and enjoy it. I agree. I was listening to, nobody's listening, right? My favorite podcast, Elizabeth and Andy.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And they were kind of just talking about this too. Elizabeth saw a picture. It's a picture, it's like from the maybe 90s, I guess. It's a courtroom and it's husband and wife. And they're sorting out Beanie Babies. Oh my God, they're getting divorced and dividing up their collection. Beanie Babies, yes.
Starting point is 01:20:42 And, but it's clear at that time, like they thought this was a fortune. And so they're like, you know, so intense and struggling and spending all this time and energy and effort. And money and lawyers. Exactly, to figure out how to separate these Beanie Babies. And there were nothing. Yeah, and they're nothing.
Starting point is 01:21:08 And they're nothing. And it is such a good metaphor for everything. It's like, it's nothing. You have the value you place on everything, and you buy it. There's only a few things that are really worth something, and those are relationships, but other than that, it's all crap. It all amounts to nothing when you're dead.
Starting point is 01:21:26 We're really Easter egging this future guest because she brought up the chimps and then we also got into this a lot. It's just really a profound moment when you look at someone's collection of things and they're no longer there to provide the value that they had. Without them, they're just objects
Starting point is 01:21:43 that'll get moved to a dump. Well, that's like on the positive end of it. That's like the line in air. Okay. When they say a shoe is just a shoe until someone steps in it. Oh, okay, IE Michael Jordan. That's what the movie's about.
Starting point is 01:22:01 So. I cannot wait. You know, it's good and well, let me ask you this. Do you like when you can get everything at once or when they do a week to week? Oh. I think there's pros and cons to both. Well, ding, ding, ding to our last fact check
Starting point is 01:22:16 about delayed gratification. Yes. I like it all. Yeah. But then it is nice to have to wait. I know, cause like now I'm really excited for Sunday. Cause the new chimp episode comes up. I think the sweet spot is to jump in halfway through a season.
Starting point is 01:22:32 So you can binge the first few and then wait sees. Yeah. That's smart. Waity wait. But then it's like, remember when we were watching ding, ding, ding, the last dance. Oh Cedars is calling me. Pin. the weighty weight. But then it's like, remember when we were watching Ding Ding Ding, the last dance,
Starting point is 01:22:46 oh Cedars is calling me, pin. Same. Oh, okay. You too. I talked to him last night. Oh, you talked to him last night? Yeah, for like an hour. Okay, that's my pin, so we'll circle back to that.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Yeah, because on the last dance when we were watching, we thought there were more, remember? Then it turned into week to week. Right. And that was horrible. But Gray? No. Oh, okay, that was in the-
Starting point is 01:23:13 It was a tantrum. Okay. Okay, so yeah, so Dr. Richard Isaacson, who we have had on the show, go back and listen. That's when we got our blood drawn. We did a whole thing. He's lovely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:27 We said he was very playful, which he is. He is, yeah. He's a preventative neurologist. And so he did all these tests. They sent him all out. And then he's been in touch about our results and what we need to look into further. And yeah, so he called me a couple days ago
Starting point is 01:23:45 and told me my heart's gonna explode at any moment. I doubt those were his exact words. He did not say that. He did not say that, but there's some unnerving cholesterol stuff. Which by the way isn't terribly new. We were talking about your cholesterol three years ago. Yeah, but he's shocked at the lack of,
Starting point is 01:24:05 based on what he's seeing. Intervention? Yeah. You were advised to go on a Stanton though? You had to have been, no? No. You weren't? No, they're just like, you know, keep an eye on it.
Starting point is 01:24:16 And that, yeah, he's surprised by that. And he's hooking me up quickly with a preventative cardiologist to go and look into all this much further. Yeah, because you're, I mean, you're 36 today, but really at the time of this airing, you're 37. Happy birthday again. Great time to look into it.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Plenty of time. Yeah, it seemed, well. I'd rather be getting this news of I were you now than at 49. Well, yeah, it seems like I'll be dead if I don't, based on the urgency. I mean, I'm kidding, sort of. He has done all this research.
Starting point is 01:24:54 It's so nice. I can't believe how kind it is. Generous. So generous. He's such a busy man and he like, he's spending a lot of time on all of us, it sounds like, but he doesn't know a preventative cardiologist. He was just like, let's find one basically.
Starting point is 01:25:14 So then he was just Googling. Cold calling. Yeah, and then he emailed this person and like gave the rundown and then they said they would see me. And then he was like, it is, but then he was like, and maybe you should look at some backups in case it takes a long time for them to see you.
Starting point is 01:25:29 And I'm like, how bad is this? I didn't ask that, which I probably should. He said not to worry about this, not to freak out, but there is also some pre, pre, pre-diabetes things he's seeing. That makes sense because of the family history. It's all connected, it's all fine, but you know. You know what I thought I had? What?
Starting point is 01:25:54 I'm like, what if he's never taken an Indian's blood? And like, what if these markers are just standard for the Indian population? My mom doesn't have it. She don't have any of these. She doesn't have high cholesterol, only my dad. Looks like I got a lot of his genes. Well, I'll say.
Starting point is 01:26:13 I am a little like him. I knew that before. Yeah, so anywho, I'll keep everyone updated on that on my heart. If it explodes, I've had a great life. I really have, I've had such a good life. And you know, 37. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Not too bad. You're born in the 1300s. Not too bad. Pretty average. Okay, so you're speaking to him today. Yeah, yeah, he wants to talk to me about some findings. Oh, I wonder what he found. Yeah, I'll find out it too, I guess.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Tell me what he says. I will, I will. What did he say about you? I said I was pretty boring in my results, but my omega-3s were the worst, almost out of anyone that took the study. But that's easy, you just take a pill. A pill and fish once a week.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Oh. Oh, do you not eat a lot of fish? I don't eat a lot of fish. Only at and fish once a week. Oh. Go fishing once a week? I don't eat a lot of fish. Only at like a restaurant I'll eat. You said take a pill and fish once a week. Well, that's good exercise. It's really not good exercise. It's not great exercise, man.
Starting point is 01:27:16 And he wants me to change my exercise routine. Zone two. I mostly only do high intensity. Yeah. And he wants me to do less. Hold on a second. This is a news break for me, breaking news. You exercise?
Starting point is 01:27:29 Yeah, I do the Peloton like an hour a day. You do? Five to six days a week. No, when did this start? Two years ago. You are so secretive. Monica and I would have been blabbing about that. A Peloton?
Starting point is 01:27:43 If we were doing the Peloton five days a week for an hour a day, we would be so proud of ourselves. We'd been blabbing about that. A Peloton? If we were doing the Peloton five days a week for an hour a day, we'd be so proud of ourselves. We'd be blabbing. I mean, only if drama happens, like people are- Won't get out of your way. Yeah, the Peloton and you're like, oh fuck, I don't know what to do. He wants me to do less of that
Starting point is 01:27:58 and do too low intensity and two strength training days. Yeah, he's so into strength training. He said the same to me. He said I'm under muscle, which obviously I don't do any strength training days. Yeah, he's so into strength training. He said the same to me. He said I'm under muscle. Which obviously, I don't do any strength training. But I made an appointment with a trainer. You did? Yes, I'm gonna start doing it
Starting point is 01:28:16 when we get back from New York. Oh good! Two days a week. You're gonna like it. No, I'm really pissed. But it's fine, I guess I gotta do it. Trust me, I have been under-muscled and over-muscled and it physically feels really good. I like how it feels for your skeletal system.
Starting point is 01:28:37 There's something about having that muscle that keeps your, oh, let's just say this, my posture was way worse when I had less muscle. Yeah. I had more pains when I had less muscle. I had more pains when I had less muscle. I just have noticed that physically makes me feel a lot better when I have more muscle mass. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:28:54 I mean, there's no getting around it. We've had a million people say, especially for women, that it's really important to do. Yeah, it's pretty unrefuted at this point. Year seven, we're gonna do it, you and me. Yeah, we'll do it. I know what I want to say. I read this yesterday that Alex Cooper, you read this?
Starting point is 01:29:13 Got a $125 million deal with Sirius. And I want to say publicly, fucking go get it girl. I'm so happy for her. What a fucking awesome, just make your shit, build your thing. She did it. It's fucking awesome. I couldn't be happier for her, that's so cool.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Blew the boys away, I love it. Yeah, that's really cool. Good for her. I like to hear that. All right, well, let's get into it. You got a lunch and I got a Santa Monica. That's much later, but still. What time?
Starting point is 01:29:46 Four. But that was intentional, right? Cause you like to spend the evening there. Yeah, it was on purpose. Now you regret it? I regret it a little bit. Oh. But that's okay.
Starting point is 01:29:56 I'll figure it out. Do you have a rough night's sleep? No. Okay, don't, stop. Don't act like I'm crazy for that response. Anyone who says did you have a rough night's sleepy? I know what you're saying. That you're, you are grumpy?
Starting point is 01:30:13 Yeah, you're saying that. And then you act shocked that I have this reaction. That feels gaslighty. Really, I think it feels generous because I don't think you're a grumpy person. And so my guess is something happened and you're grumpy and don't want to go to Santa Monica for anymore.
Starting point is 01:30:29 So my hunch is- Who wants to go to Santa Monica for more? Well, you made the appointment. At the time you made it, you were excited and that seemed like the right move, and then now you don't want to do that, so I'm like, you might have had a bad night's sleep. No, because-
Starting point is 01:30:42 I thought it was generous. Okay, well, that's not how I took it. Okay. Also, the reason I was excited to, or I was happy to do it at four is because normally Molly and I hang out. Yeah. But she's coming back from Hawaii
Starting point is 01:30:55 and won't be back until late. So now I'm just gonna be stuck there for four hours. And that's now why I regret it. Gotcha. There's reasoning regret it. Gotcha. There's reasoning behind it. Okay. And I don't really have any other friends in Santa Monica. Well, you can't.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Exactly. It's like having a friend in Nevada. Although I saw my friend from Santa Monica yesterday, but he made the effort. DeCastro drove out after he dropped his baby off at school and we did a hike. Fun. Yeah, I'm a little mad at him.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Oh, why? Because when he arrived, he said, oh my God, I haven't worked out. And I think he said a year. Wow. For people who don't remember, Steve D'Castro is a stunt man, extraordinary. One of my great friends and he also stunt coordinated
Starting point is 01:31:39 two of the movies I did. He also did some second unit directing on chips. He's a lovely dude. Jujitsu black belt. Yeah, and he said he hasn't worked out. He goes, and I haven't done cardio in like a year. Wow. So I'm almost thinking like,
Starting point is 01:31:51 this is gonna be a rough hike. Like I'm gonna have to be going so slow. So I go up, I'm gonna throw on my rucksack. And he goes, yeah, do something, weigh yourself down, because I don't want you to kill me. And then we hiked and he chatted the whole time. You know, it's very hard to chat when you're hiking Yeah, he was completely fine and I was like you're panting That wasn't panting but there wasn't much of a gap between our mind you I haven't hiked either since we went away this summer
Starting point is 01:32:16 Okay, it's been so hot regardless. I was like this kid. He's a physical phenom I guess he always has been like he just he hasn't worked out in a year and then he fucking hiked up and he was chatting The whole time and we were going at a pretty good pace and he was completely fine. I he just, he hasn't worked out in a year and then he fucking hiked up and he was chatting the whole time and we were going at a pretty good pace and he was completely fine. I don't even think he was sweating. Wow. Yeah. So fuck you.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Congratulations, Alex Cooper and fuck you, Steve Bacastro. Wow, wow, wow, wow. I wonder how his cholesterol is. He's probably smart enough to have never checked. What you don't know can't hurt you, I think this is. That's what they say. Okay, so this is for Sam Richardson.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Funny man. The Jewel of Detroit. Well, Chuck Woolery and then him. Okay, and some other people. Yep, Jeff Daniels, Bob Seeger. We talked about all these people. Yep, we talked about Cedar Point? My God. Are you a little, really quick. Yeah Point Are you a little really quick yeah
Starting point is 01:33:07 It does are you a little bit curious to go just because you have to admit of any topic that comes out the people That go have gone there. They can't shut up about it, right? It's like the funniest thing like I wasn't knowing you but it's also pretty comedic It's the same reaction every time and people go through the same list of roller coasters It is it would be like if every time and people go through the same list of roller coasters. It is. It would be like if every time a certain restaurant came up in New York, everyone went on about it for 15 minutes, I'd be like, I've got to try that restaurant.
Starting point is 01:33:32 And I guess I'm curious, does it not elicit that? It doesn't because this is really what it does. I feel like that, you're gonna be so mad, but I feel that our Six Flags Over Georgia was that. And so like that is what happens if you talk to people who went there. Well, counterpoint, we've had a lot of people from Georgia on the show.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And you guys have talked about Atlanta and Georgia. It's never come up. But I don't bring it up. I don't say, have you been to Six Flags? Normally, let's be honest and truthful, normally you say, have you been to Cedar Point? And that's what kicks off these conversations. Perhaps.
Starting point is 01:34:22 I've never done that. I'm not gonna go back and listen, and there's a hundred at this point, conversations about Cedar Point. Again, I gotta, I'm, congratulations Alex Cooper, fuck you DeCastro, and fuck you Cedar Point. Oh my God, what a turn.
Starting point is 01:34:37 The amount that I publicize Cedar Point, and they have not reached out to give me free passes for my family, because I'm struggling. Yeah. for my family, because I'm struggling. Because I'm, because I'm. Don't deserve free passes. Every time you go on now, you say you want to go and you want to take a private jet there.
Starting point is 01:34:54 That's my new thing, which by the way. You're acting crazy. Your feet are not on the ground anymore. I'm not going to ever do that. It's just a funny fantasy. In fact, it's more fun to have that fantasy than it would be to do that. Obviously.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Because I'd be on the plane like, this is a waste of money. I mean, this is insane. Yeah, although that's so stupid. Oh, it is, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, if it was real. If it was real, but the fantasy of it is fantastic. Like, maybe even wear a suit on the way there.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Yeah, I mean, sure. David Letterman would be so mad if you did that. Because I wore a suit for that. And not at his dinner party. Oh, right, right. That is so rude. It's so rude. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I'm not gonna do it, but I might do it. Okay. I have to say I might do it so that the fantasy works. I get it, I get it. You can't say like if I win the lottery, but you don't buy a lottery ticket. You still gotta buy the lottery ticket. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:35:47 But making it clear, I don't think you should get free tickets, I think they should save the free tickets for a child in need. Orphans. Orphans or a child in need. Let's get the orphans. Yeah. They might already do that. Yeah, I hope. They probably don't.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Well. But they might. the orphans aren't well organized as a voting block. That's the problem. I know, they need better representation. This is like the foster care that you said you were gonna take on as your cause. I know. How far are you?
Starting point is 01:36:16 Really throwing daggers. It's got very cruel. Okay, but let me tell you something. Six Flags was so fun. Yeah, tell me about it. What was the best ride? Well, Batman was my favorite. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Well, you know why I'm saying okay? Because they have that at this Six Flags. It's different. They have Superman and Batman. Yes, they have both. That is so different. I guarantee. Do they have both. That is so different. I guarantee. Do they have, what's it called?
Starting point is 01:36:50 Raging Bull? No, Riddler's Revenge? No. Do they have the Viper? Yeah. No, they don't. Yes, they do. They have the Viper that goes one way
Starting point is 01:36:59 and then circles back the other way. I'm gonna read you the list of roller coasters. I think Chicago had that. Do they have the Georgia coaster? Six Flags is McDonald's, Cedar Point is Emmy Burger. Oh, gross. So you know what would be funny is I don't get free tickets from Cedar Point but I get a cease and desist.
Starting point is 01:37:17 I do too, I love it so much. I love it. A cease and desist from who? From Six Flags. So what would be funny is I don't get any free passes from Cedar Point but I do get sued by for defamation for six flies. I don't need to because I'm Here to stick up for six flags. Everyone should go to six guys, but I do want to get the list of coast six flags What's it even called?
Starting point is 01:37:38 American Eagle That's Magic Mountain not the same as six flags over Georgia. No Did you have the American Eagle at the Georgia one? That was the big Chicago ride. No, we didn't have that. That one's cool. That's the one that's in vacation. That's the white wooden one.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Yeah, that's like the Gemini at Cedar Point. Best amusement park in the world. Oh, I'm so annoyed we're still talking about this. Okay, let me look at Six Flags Over Georgia All Rides. Ooh, first one that comes out, Batman. You wanna hear what they have there? Yeah. They have the Riddler's Revenge, Tatsu, Wonder Woman,
Starting point is 01:38:14 twisted Colossus Six Flags, that's the great American, I think they call it Colossus at Magic Mountain. Yeah, I think so. New Revolution, Superman, Viper, Apocalypse, Batman, Magic Flyer, Goldrush, Full Throttle, Roadrunner Express, Goldrush. I already read that one, but they separated it. One was a compound word and this one separated.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Goliath, Scream, X2, Canyon Blaster, Cyclone, Ninja, Canyon Blaster, Cyclone, Ninja, Green Lantern, Goliath, Flashback, Canyon Blaster. Okay, what was the Riddler one? Riddler's Revenge. Okay, so these are all different because we have Batman the Ride, we have Batman the Ride, we have Acrophobia, that was a huge ride. So Apocalypse? Scary.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Apocalypse? Well, they got one here called Apocalypse. No, we don't have that. It's the like drop one. Oh, like the demon drop. Exactly, that's my whole point. That they're all the same. Yes, what's at Cedar Point is at Six Flags.
Starting point is 01:39:26 How dare you. Okay. And you've also said it about Rob Six Flags. Yeah, that's like this at Cedar Point. It's all the same. Well, I mean, the joke's on me because Six Flags bought Cedar Point. You know that, right?
Starting point is 01:39:39 I didn't. That just happened. You've been keeping that silent. It's very new. Wow. And certainly now they're not gonna send me free tickets. Okay, you know what Six Flags Magic Mountain or whatever doesn't have?
Starting point is 01:39:55 Georgia Scorcher doesn't have that. That'd be crazy. That was. That was the one? A great ride. What happens there, is it metal, is it steel? You put your feet to the fire. Oh.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. It's upside down. Some, they're all, so many are upside down. I don't care about upside down if I'm being honest. I love upside down.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Yeah, you do? Yeah, I used to. I mean, I probably don't anymore. Oh, it would fuck you up. Yeah, probably. You know, you remember my story with Carly. Yeah, yeah. Oh, interesting, it was just the anniversary
Starting point is 01:40:27 of that terrible day, because her birthday was two days ago. Oh yeah. We rode out there on the Harley, we were gonna have the best day of our lives. Took one ride and we had to sit on the grass for like an hour and a half, because we were so sick.
Starting point is 01:40:40 And then finally we got back on the motorcycle and drove home defeated. It was, what a disaster. That is a disaster. It was embarrassing really. I'm embarrassed. Also we had the scream machine, that was huge. That was probably like your-
Starting point is 01:40:55 Yeah, the great American scream machine was, it looks just like the American Eagle. Okay, and then like the one you had at Cedar Point. No. Yeah, you already told him that it was. The Gemini? Greatest roller coaster in the history of roller coasters? So anyway, I think it's a little like,
Starting point is 01:41:13 I hate to say it, it's a little like little brother energy. What is? Cedar Point. Little brother energy, what are you talking about? We gotta talk about it. We gotta talk about Cedar Point all the time. Oh wow. Cause it's like.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Also is little brother energy a thing or did you just invent it? I invented it on Fightless Bird Rhode Island episode because I think Rhode Island has little brother energy and I'm really grossed out by little brother energy. You are. I am. You must be grossed out by me because I'm a little brother. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:41:45 I'm a baby little brother. I'm a baby buvver. It doesn't. It's your baby buvver Dax. Hi David. Can we go to Cedar Point? Oh my God. It's your baby buvver.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Oh, that's cute. Listen, it's not. I'm 49 now. Still your baby buvver. Oh my God. I'm 49 now. Still your baby woofer. Oh my God. It doesn't actually equate to if you're a baby brother
Starting point is 01:42:10 or a little brother. It's an energy. Beta energy is what you're talking about, I think. It's not. It's approving yourself energy. And it is uncomp. Like my brother's a little brother, but he has zero little brother energy.
Starting point is 01:42:24 He could give a fuck. He does not want to, he has zero little brother energy. He could give a fuck. He does not want to, he has no- LBE. Yep. Anyway. Well, so let's... Okay, so the Scoville scale, we'll talk about that for a second.
Starting point is 01:42:39 People know this probably, but it's a measurement of pungency, spiciness, or heat. Heat. Of chili peppers and other substances. This isn't gonna shock you, but I don't fully embrace the Scoville system. Why? Because I've done hot ones.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Right. I've also gotten Carolina Reaper, I've gotten the chips that are this. And so often, I'm like, well, that's interesting. The one that was half on the Scoville system was hotter, and everyone agrees. This is really weird. Everyone agrees, oh, that second to last one's
Starting point is 01:43:13 the hottest on Hot Ones. Yeah, it's like a 500,000 less on the Scoville. And I'm like, so I guess in my experience, it's not. Well, he says the host of Hot Ones, he's so cool. He is the greatest. We should have him on. Definitely. Sean Evans. Sean Evans.
Starting point is 01:43:31 Sean, the host of Hot Ones, says, it's actually because it hits in different parts of the mouth and throat and stuff. So sometimes even if it's less, the place it hits, your body reacts more intensely. Exactly, like I do believe there is some chemical they mix with this thing that produces a metric, and I do believe that is all correct,
Starting point is 01:43:53 but I don't know that that chemical compound they use to evaluate it is perfectly paralleling the human experience with it. Yeah, I get that. Okay, I'm gonna read a little bit. The scale is named after its creator, America. Oh, also recorded in the Scoville Heat Unit's SHU. That seems like that would be on trivia.
Starting point is 01:44:12 SHU, shoe. So people can remember that. It's based on the concentration of capsaicinoids. Capsaicinoids. Capsaicinoids. When you do that sometimes, you know what it reminds me of? Little brother?
Starting point is 01:44:29 In a way, spelling bee contestants. Do they say the same, they're like, habidashary, habidashary. They'll like say it kind of theoretically while they're working out, habidashary. Habidashary. H-A-ary. Origin. And then the last equation like iteration,
Starting point is 01:44:48 you know, whatever the fuck they say. Definition maybe they get. They get a definition and then you can also find out the origin, but that has a name. Well, place of origin is important because of the way you spell things. Sure. Tyre in England.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Latin. Tyre. Tyre. You know these fucking Brits. T-Y-R-E. That was on, that's crazy. That was on a crossword I did the other day, like two days ago. And I don't do crosswords that often. I think they spell leader wrong too.
Starting point is 01:45:15 I think it might be L-I-T-R-E. Probably, yeah. Okay, Scoville. S-H-U. Capsaicinoids, among which, I'm probably saying it wrong. Capsaicinids, among which, I'm probably saying it wrong, capsaicin is the predominant component. So that's what they're measuring.
Starting point is 01:45:29 Yeah, concentration of capsaicin. It's really hard. If you saw this, C-A-P-S-A-I-C-I-N. You lost me so long ago. I can't even visualize what that was, yeah. Oh, an alternative method, high performance liquid chromatography, HPLC, can be used to analytically quantify
Starting point is 01:45:52 the capsaicinoid content as an indicator of pungency. Okay, so that's a competitor, like Six Flags and... Yeah. What's it called? Cedar Point. How dare you? You're a piece of shit. You have a piece of shit energy, if I can say it.
Starting point is 01:46:08 You have POS-E. Oh, that sounds like PCOS, which I do think I have. I don't, but I- What's PCOS? It's a polycystic ovarian syndrome. Oh. Well, that came right off the tongue for you. Yeah, it did.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I know a lot about it. Sweet-Bull Pepper pepper zero on the scale. Okay, and then pure capsaicin is 16 million. Oh Okay, I want to try that. So a habanero is 300,000 Carolina Reaper 2.1 million 2.1 mil. Okay pepper spray is 5 million. Oh Yeah, I am I feel very fortunate 2.1 mil. Okay, pepper spray is five million. Ooh. Yeah. I am, I feel very fortunate. I have two things I feel very fortunate about today.
Starting point is 01:46:51 One is I've never been sprayed with pepper spray. I hope to make it through my whole life without that experience. Number two, I'm applying for global entry. Ah ha. And the fact that I haven't been arrested is almost impossible. I can't even believe,
Starting point is 01:47:09 because I even in my own mind, I had to really like, I know this sounds crazy, I had to really think about it. I've certainly had a ton of interaction with police. I've been in the back of police cars. I've been questioned by the police. They came to my high school once to talk to me.
Starting point is 01:47:23 They came to my front yard to talk to me. And I didn't ever get arrested. Wow. And it's, I can't believe I got out of all that addiction without being arrested. I was so lucky. So lucky, and fights and stuff. Oh my God, so many fights.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Yeah, it's crazy. Crazy. Hello, David. It's for Will Buffer. I'm 50 years old today it's for Will Buffer. I'm 50 years old today, still your Will Buffer. He sounds kind of like, oh God. On my tombstone, it's gonna say here lies Will Buffer. Aw, that's sad. There's been too much death talk lately.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Okay, let's talk about some births. Okay. Hello, it's Bob. Is that what you were thinking it was similar to? Hello, it's Bob. No. Do we have any money? No, it sounded like our friend.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Oh, Hermium Permian? Yes, sounded a little bit. Hermium Permian talks like this. Oh yeah. He's not a little brother. He's the only child, he thinks. Yeah. I never met any of my family members, Miss Monica. That's why you're my mom.
Starting point is 01:48:34 You're such a good mom. Happy birthday to you. Heard you turned 37 years old. He really doesn't let anyone else talk, does he? He has social awkwardness and developmental things. You're shining a big old light on it and now he wants to retreat into his apartment. Might not come up for a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 01:48:54 That's okay, I got television and streaming services. There's an incredible documentary about chimpanzees. I'm thinking about getting one myself. Oh my God. Okay. Miss Monica, you ever been to Cedar Point? You do have little brother energy. I love Hermiam. We haven't seen him in a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Has he been alright? It's hard for me to come out in the summertime. It's awfully hot outside. I like to stay inside the AC condition. I think it's the greatest invention of all time. That ice cold air blowing in, you look out the window, people are sweating. Not you, you're inside watching your chimp documentary, thinking about getting one yourself.
Starting point is 01:49:51 I just want to say, just as his mother, that he needs to be a little careful saying that there's an invention that's better than what the robot has invented, okay? Because he might get upset. Oh, my robot friend? Yeah. What did he invent?
Starting point is 01:50:06 He claims stuff. I don't know if it's real. Okay. But he's confused. Go on. Tell me more. Well, hasn't he to us? I love to learn, Miss Monica.
Starting point is 01:50:18 Don't worry, I'm not like that other man, Frito. I'm not going to say anything weird. That's fair, thank you. Oh no other man, Frito. I'm not gonna say anything weird. That's fair, thank you. Oh no, I see him coming, I see him. Knock, knock. Stop. Isn't Miss Monica there? Ew, he is not.
Starting point is 01:50:34 I need a mommy too for all my feelings. I'm hungry. Hrk, hrk, hrk, hrk. Oh, should we stop? What if I got into some weird, do you ever worry that? You were, you couldn't stop. But what, yeah, do you ever, do you ever worry that like maybe
Starting point is 01:50:53 I'll go into some crazy schizophrenic loop or all the characters will be talking to each other and then you'll have to run outside and you'll like get my family to come in and try, everyone will be screaming at me, but I can't get out of the loop. That ever cross your mind? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Okay. You know who hasn't been here in so long, but now we're doing it, so let's get them all out of the closet. Monica, I heard you're about to put on some muscle mass. Get some quadriceps and some triceps and some latissimus. Oh my God. Are you going to get the pump? You know when I get the pump it feels like coming.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Ew! That's a direct quote, Monica. Tax! It's from the documentary. You crossed the line. That is his words. I didn't, that's not me. I'm just reporting the news as it comes in.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Can I do some facts on? Yeah. Okay. Okay. You said other countries, in other countries people aren't getting married. So I wanted to do some marriage rates by country. Oh, that's a fun exercise. What do you think's the lowest?
Starting point is 01:51:56 Well, this is interesting. I think, my guess is either gonna be New Zealand or like some of these Scandinavian countries. It's Qatar. I'm surprised. Well, and I might get in trouble suggesting this, one guy is snatching up like all the wives and a ton of the men are going unmarried.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Okay, yeah. So that could be skewing the data. Okay, okay, Venezuela is 96. 96 what? Percent unmarried? Out of 99. Like I'm on, this is the. 96 what? Percent unmarried? Out of 99. Like I'm on, this is the list, okay? This is number of marriages per 1,000, population per year by country.
Starting point is 01:52:36 This is from The Economist. I gotta add one thing, okay? When we're looking at data, clearly this data could be reflective too of how young a population is, right? Like if you, like Japan has a very old population and obviously older people are married at a higher rate than younger people.
Starting point is 01:52:52 So this is like, could be confusing, but go ahead. Yeah, the United States is 44th on the list. It's 5.1 marriage rate. Marriage is per what was it? Per a thousand. Right, only five people per a thousand are married? It's per year. Marriage rate. Per what was it? Per 1,000. Right, only five people per 1,000 are married? Per year. Per year.
Starting point is 01:53:08 That's not even gonna count for people that are previously married. Okay. So it's just the current rate. I got you, five people get married per year out of every 1,000. Okay, seems low, doesn't it? It does seem low.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Palestine is number one at 10. So it's not like, nothing is crazy. So that's got the highest rate of marriage. Yes. Palestine. Yeah. Okay, and what was the last place? Last place is Qatar 1.4.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Okay. Yeah, interesting. Where's Kiwiville in there? Okay, New Zealand is, United Kingdom lower than... The US? Uh-huh. I believe that. Germany, Germany lower.
Starting point is 01:53:50 I hate to say this. Japan 4.1, lower. But again, because this is right. Oh yeah. So that totally makes sense. New Zealand 3.6. Because they're already married. What number on the list?
Starting point is 01:54:03 70. 70, 70. Okay. Do you see any of those Scandinavian countries? Norway, 71. Okay. Sweden, 68. Okay.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Who's 69? And that's 3.8. 69, South Korea. Congrats, South Korea. Congrats, Alex Cooper. Congrats, South Korea. Fuck you, Steve de Castro. Fuck you, Cedar Point.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Fuck you, Cedar Point. Anyway, you can't even say it. See? See? Okay, anyway. And you're right,Castro. Fuck you, Cedar Point. Anyway, you can't even say it. See? See. Okay, anyway.
Starting point is 01:54:29 And you're right, a lot of the European ones are less than America, but America's still halfway. Like, I hate to say this, people are gonna be very mad that I say this. And I say this as a married person. I do think it'll evolve away from it. I think we're evolving away from it.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Yeah, so I think when you look at these countries that are more progressive, you're seeing. But you like marriage. I love it, yeah. You say you're for it. But again, this gets into Christmas and all these different things, which is, do I like marriage?
Starting point is 01:54:58 I don't know. Do I like partnerships and kids? Do I like families? Yeah. Do they need to go to the courthouse and make it official? I don't have no, I don't care about that. What's the design? I don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:55:10 What is it? I don't know it, I don't think. What was the Teen Witch thing? It was... Sabrina? No, there was a earlier thing that you would know because you're closer to Carly. Although Carly is older than you, you're gonna miss.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Top that? Yes, top that, top that. I don't give a about that. I don't know that. It was like a song they sang. Teen Witch 1989 movie. Teen Witch 1989, top that, top that. I don't give a about that.
Starting point is 01:55:39 And they blanked it, bleeped it like that? No, it was Teenage Witches, it wasn't Adult Witches. Adult Witches are nasty. Hey. Hey. Ding, ding, ding, that same gas. I know, I know, I know. We should just air it after this. No, they have to hang tight.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Okay. That was pretty quick on the fire, Wobby Wob. Just Google got lucky. Yeah, he was only two years old when that came up. Just a little bubble. Oh, oh, okay, the code you were talking about, ABBA. Left, right, left, right, up, down, up, down, left, wait, left, right, left, right, up, down, up, down, ABBA.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Okay, so there's a few codes, Konami code. Konami code is commonly referred to as the Contra code, and sometimes the 30 Lives code is a cheat code that appears in many Konami video games as well as some non-Konami games. The code has also found a place in popular culture as a reference to the third generation of video game consoles and is present as an Easter egg on a number of websites.
Starting point is 01:56:46 In the original code, the player has to press the following sequence of buttons on the game controller to enable a cheat or other effects. This is up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A. Sometimes start and select is added to the sequence. Oh, wow. My Contra code was definitely ABBA, but maybe just the A B's what triggered it
Starting point is 01:57:07 and the BA was auxiliary and not necessary. And then I would hit Select. What a, the first time you do that, it's unreal. You've been playing this game, you can't get through it, you have three lives, hit that code, and you're like, oh, I can breathe. Eddie Murphy was on SNL 19. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:29 That is crazy. Also, yeah, so Matt Damon was doing born during the Avatar ask. Okay. So he would have had to leave them. Okay. He just has too much integrity. My God. Okay, He just has too much integrity. Mm-mm. My God.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Okay, Dietrich Furze. Dietrich Furze. Yeah, it's still working. It's still up and running. It's still up and running, the website. Michigan's only. It's since 1893. That's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Yeah. Legendary warmth. They're gonna be having their 150th anniversary here in a sec. They're older than Ford. It's pretty cool. As so far as furs are cool. I mean, it's cool to have a business that lasts that long.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Absolutely. Also real quick, we talked about Veep and we shot Baby Director on the Veep set. Oh yeah. We went to the Veep set. Cause Morgan was We went to the Veep set and shot there. Cause Morgan was working on it? Yeah. Yeah. Which was really fun.
Starting point is 01:58:29 Yeah, like the president's room or some shit. Yeah, the oval office. The oval office. She was the president for a second. I'd love to dust that off, see that little baby. Well, he talked about auditioning for the CBS Showcase. I also did that. Yeah, I did it too.
Starting point is 01:58:49 And it was when you come back and you have to do an Indian character. In an accent. What year was that? Fuck you. Fuck you, girl. Fuck you, Steve DeCastro. Fuck you, Cedar Point.
Starting point is 01:59:08 It would have been, God, I guess it would have been 2011 or 12-ish, probably. Okay, mine might have been the ABC showcase. I'm not sure. It was one of the network showcases. I got to just do, because they came to the groundlings and saw me and then invited me to do it.
Starting point is 01:59:27 So I'd got to just do a sketch that Josh and I had that had been running for a long time. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, it was very fun. Because I was the only one in there that did something that I had written. Took great pride in that. I didn't get anything out of it,
Starting point is 01:59:39 but it was fun to be invited. It was called Let's Dance. And it's two guys like at a club and somehow they're like overly macho and then they're kind of getting into it. And then somehow it turns out they both would love to dance with one another. It was great.
Starting point is 02:00:05 It was probably the best one we ever wrote. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 02:00:12 I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 02:00:19 I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Love you.

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