Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard - Synced: Jesus Christ Superstar

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

Happy 1 year of Synced! In this episode Monica and Liz reflect on the past year, they discuss the book of the summer, and exchange paper anniversary gifts. They answer listener questions on condom et...iquette, how to hide an early pregnancy from friends, and they discuss when it's appropriate for a man to "step in" physically. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello. Hello. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary. We did it. We made it to a year. Very exciting. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:08 A year ago feels like 20 years ago. It feels like a long time ago. Yeah. I agree. How do you think you've changed? Oh, my God. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:00:16 I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Very exciting. Wow. A year ago feels like 20 years ago. It feels like a long time ago. Yeah. I agree. How do you think you've changed? Oh my God. That's such a profound question. I mean, I have been actually reflecting on that, how difficult last summer was and how
Starting point is 00:00:38 dysregulated I was and who I was dating. Like just the situations that I was like holding onto. I was like physically ill. Yeah, ill. And I just moved. Like when I look back, I just feel like it's that meme of like things were on fire, but it felt very chaotic and I was just getting through it,
Starting point is 00:00:58 but this summer feels incredibly peaceful. That's great. And I like reflect on it on a daily basis. Wow. Because I have been kind of doing our meditations. It's working. And it does work. It's annoying when, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:13 it's like take your stupid mental health walk or do your stupid meditation for your stupid mental health. Honestly, what it's done for me, my mind is still like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, when I try to meditate, but it makes me stop and reflect. Usually I'll just be go, go, go, and I'll have time to still like, when I try to meditate, but it makes me stop and reflect.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Usually I'll just be go, go, go, and I'll have time to be like, I'm so healthy and I can do things that I couldn't do last summer and I'm at peace and I'm not dating a crazy person. I'm not trying to make a relationship that's unworkable work. What do you think caused the dysregulation last year? I think I had like no self-respect. I mean, not no, but definitely was lacking
Starting point is 00:01:55 sort of a sense of care for myself. And I think you would tell me that in nicer ways. Probably not in nicer ways. Probably not in nicer ways. Probably meaner ways. You told me, remember a few months ago, I was in a rut over another person. I feel like every time we've started a show, I started dating the most toxic person. Oh, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:02:18 I mean, so a couple months ago, I was reconnecting with the person I dated during Race to 35. It was just a very unhealthy relationship, but I was trying to somehow make it work again. And you just literally, we were at Cavell in your booth, and you were like, Liz, I don't know how to say this other than like, you're so much better than this. The tone though was like, dude, like, but it pierced through my soul and reverberated back in the night. Well, I mean it. But it was true. But I should have been nicer maybe.
Starting point is 00:02:46 But sometimes. No, but you were right. You were right. I'm just like, guys, come on. You were right. The rest of that sentence is like, you're amazing. This person is whatever. Because when you're in these kind of unhealthy dynamics, your perspective is totally warped.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And that's where your friends are there to be like, this person? For me, it's just like, here are the facts. This person is X, Y, and Z based on everything they've shown. I'm not just like, oh, they're bad, cause they're mean. Like, no, they're this and this and this based on this evidence, and you're X, Y, and Z based on this evidence.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So like, if anyone looked at this picture, you don't deserve that. Yes, 100%. Do you feel like you've always had one level of self-respect and then now it's lifting? Or do you think it was a dip? Yeah, that's a really good question. I mean, now that I'm thinking about it,
Starting point is 00:03:35 I think both of them are kind of fertility related. Not that I wasn't in unhealthy dynamics before that. And I don't know if anyone else relates to this or if you relate to this, but something did shift for me when I turned 35 where suddenly before that I would be in dynamics and I would be like, oh, this isn't working out for me. And sometimes I actually think I would dip
Starting point is 00:03:55 a little too early or at one thing that I didn't like. And I'm like, oh, maybe I could have like seen that thing through. But a weird thing happened definitely during the egg freezing with this person that I was dating at that time, where it felt like we were freezing our eggs, even though he was totally not present. To be fair to him, you were not freezing your eggs with him.
Starting point is 00:04:16 We were not. No, absolutely not. That was your decision. You just happened to also. But there were moments we would go to a party and there'd be kids. And it wasn't all in my head. I do think there was this sense of like, this is gonna be us. Did he say that?
Starting point is 00:04:29 He didn't say it. He didn't say it. With his mouth? He didn't say it. With his mouth and he said it with his eyes. He didn't say it. And again, we were in hormones and we were doing this really big thing. I'm not blaming him for that at all. But I do think it was heightened. I think when we started singing,
Starting point is 00:04:48 I was moving to a new place. It was like, okay, now I'm settling down. Again, if I had those bells going at 35, they've just been louder since then. With this person, I was stating when we started singing, the things that I remember thinking, he wanted to live on a farm. I was like, yeah, I'll live on a farm in this remote country.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I was so self-abandoning basically, because I was like, oh, it's this person and I have to make this work. I think all of us are like, well, it requires sacrifice. There's compromise, but compromise doesn't have to be sacrificed. That's right. Women very often are very self-sacrificing. Yes. And men are too, but I think women prioritize relationships. And that means you're kind of
Starting point is 00:05:35 often prioritizing someone else. I mean, if you're really prioritizing the relationship, you'd be prioritizing your own needs too. But I think we get those things wrong. And I would move so fast into things. And that was definitely something I think we get those things wrong. And I would move so fast into things. And that was definitely something I've changed in the last year and that's so positive. And so yeah, I just feel so less crazy. That's awesome. I'm proud of you. I'm happy for you.
Starting point is 00:05:56 How do you feel? I think I progressively have gotten better at boundaries, but that's over many years, I think. But I see it continuing and reaping rewards from it. Because sometimes they take a while, the rewards. You know? Or you get the opposite. Or you get the opposite.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Which is like, people are upset, which is normal. People are. That is the thing. It's like, boundary setting is not easy at all. And it's because it can be painful for everyone. That's why it's hard to do and people avoid it, because it's not fun, but it's healthy. And it ultimately is healthy for everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:33 You just have to fucking remember that. I was talking to my therapist about something and I was like, yeah, you know what? I have these boundaries. I think everything's been good, so I think I can stop. I can like put down the boundaries because like it's fixed, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:52 And she was like, Monica, she was like, the reason it's good is because of the boundaries. It's not that the boundaries then fix the thing, it's like that's why. It's not that the boundaries then fix the thing. It's like, that's why. Wow. It's like, oh yeah. Wow. And it's good to remember. It's hard to remember.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I can put down the best. I was like, oh, I think it's better now. So like, I think it's fine. And she was like, um. That's how a lot of people get off antidepressants. Exactly. Where they're like, oh, I'm better now. It's like, no, you're better because you're on them. You don't stop it unless your doctor says so. Yeah, it's this illusion.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It's so funny. Because you want to be done. Yeah, because they're hard. And they require energy and effort. And then you want to be like, OK, well, I did that. And so that's over now. And everything's fixed. And it's just not the way relationships work really.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So I guess that's been going on this year, but not too much else. I don't think, you know, it's interesting because last summer, last summer was so fun. We had summer of Cara and we're just hanging every day and it felt like there was so much time. I don't know what happened. It was very summer camp. It was so summer campy. And I think I went into this summer with such high expectations because of it. I've been feeling a little like, why am I not feeling like I felt? And I think it's just because I have this unachievable expectation, which is annoying. Because like the reason it was so fun is because it was unexpected.
Starting point is 00:08:23 You just can't recreate recreate and it's frustrating. It is. I want to just recreate fun moments and fun times but life doesn't let you. Maybe you need like an inaugural event to inaugurate the summer so that you like know what the vibe. Well, 4th of July is kind of that. It was, it was so fun. But I think like when I have such a tight grasp, I mean, this is just in general a problem for me, I think. And a good thing to remind people of is the tighter grasp you have on anything,
Starting point is 00:08:54 the worse it is. I think in a relationship and relationship to the summer, my toxic relationship to the summer. I don't think you have a toxic relationship. No, I wasn't. But it was like, I can't wait. Summer is coming and it's gonna be so fun and we're gonna do this and this and this all day long.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That hasn't been. Then you're just left feeling like you lost something. That's just the wrong perspective. It's just different. Yes, accepting the moment you're in. I've definitely done that. You're like focusing on what it should feel like and so you're not really in the present, which is great and like has all kinds of beautiful things in it, but you're like focusing on what it should feel like. And so you're not really in the present, which is great.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And like has all kinds of beautiful things in it, but you're not paying attention to it because you're focused on what it should be or what it could be. Also, it's been like a weird couple of weeks. I feel like just the vibes are off. Is it the moon? I think it's just the world.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Like I was just like. I think it's the world and the moon. The world and the moon, or maybe it's the moon doing it to the world. What I mean is like, the world. I think it's the world and the moon. The world and the moon, or maybe it's the moon doing it to the world. What I mean is like, I wouldn't blame yourself. There's a lot going on and a lot can change. A lot has changed in three weeks. So imagine how much can change in three weeks.
Starting point is 00:09:53 It's true. I also think so much pressure on these couple weeks that are technically like slow weeks for us because Dax and Kristen are out of town. When they're out of town, it's like, oh my gosh, it's less. I can relax a little bit. So then I want to do this, this, and that. It's like too much pressure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Take down the pressure. Just do what you feel like doing every day. What have you been doing? Being, I guess, sad that it's not as fun. We should go out and make it fun. Yeah, let's make it fun. Also, there's so much more summer left. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:27 It's the beginning. I need to relax. Go a little easier on yourself. On your summer. Yeah, I need to go a little easier on the summer. Okay, now this is related. Have you read any more of the book? Okay, so I did, but I'm still not done.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Okay. But let's talk about it. I won't give anything away. So All Four is by Miranda July. I brought it up like 18 times to different people. Because it's coming up naturally, it's really making me feel like, oh, women are, especially of a certain age,
Starting point is 00:10:59 we're all going through this thing and no one's talking about it. Okay. Except this book is really talking about it. So the book is about a woman who is gonna go on a trip to New York. She's gonna drive there and she ends up getting a hotel like an hour away. She never makes it there. The book takes so many twists and turns.
Starting point is 00:11:24 It is so profound. It's so sexy. Well, the last time I think I spoke about it, I was like, it's so sexy. Oh, my God. And then the next day, I was like... The tampon thing? No, I liked that. I also thought that was sexy. It's so visceral, their thing.
Starting point is 00:11:44 But the book takes so many turns after that. Like, you have no idea. Oh, my god. You have no idea where this is going. And really, it's a coming of middle-aged story, what comes along with that and what happens to women's bodies and what's happening to them mentally.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And a lot of women, once they hit middle age, that's the first time they start looking around lot of women, once they hit middle age, that's the first time they start looking around and thinking like, what do I want? And you're like 45. Yeah. And it's shocking. And it's very saying because you, a couple of episodes ago,
Starting point is 00:12:16 were scared you had perimenopause. Yeah. Is that what happened? Yes. It's a big part of the book. Wow. And I'm like, oh my god, we're all. And then, of course, I read it. And I was like, well, I also definitely am in it.
Starting point is 00:12:28 You think? Now I think. I think we're both in it. Oh my God. I mean, I haven't told you, but I'm like, I think it's happening. It's not a big deal. I know. It's like, oh my...
Starting point is 00:12:37 Identity's shifting though. I know. We're too young for it. I know. We're teenage girls. That's the problem. It's like, we're going to feel like, I know. That's the problem. It's like, we're going to feel like 18. Right, forever.
Starting point is 00:12:48 In the book, she gives us like visual for the first part of your life. You're like on this ride up basically. And she's like, and then for a moment you're hovering. And then from then, you're just falling. Wow. And I do feel like currently I think we are in the hover, but this idea like what's next is the fall until we die. And it's all perspective.
Starting point is 00:13:13 By the end, it's actually quite optimistic. And you can choose how to feel about life and the second half and all of that. But whoa, I don't, I'm not, I wanna keep, I'm not. I think you should next read a book I've talked to you about before, but my friend Glance McNichol wrote I'm Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself, and it is being lumped with all fours. It's the same genre, it's like sort of the summer of the perimenopausal woman or like the summer of the male age woman. Sort of midlife crisis, right? Like sort of idea, right?
Starting point is 00:13:46 That we kind of know what it looks like for men. It's like hair plugs and Ferraris. And for women, we don't really talk about what that looks like. And Glynnis's book, which I devoured. I think you would love it. Basically, she's the opposite of Miranda, of Miranda July's character.
Starting point is 00:14:01 She's single, she doesn't have children, she's 40, I think five now, and decides to just move to Paris for like a few months, and just has sex with so many beautiful younger men, and like eats baguettes and croissants and cheese. And Glynnis wrote a first book, which was
Starting point is 00:14:18 called No One Tells You This. Basically, 39 was the worst year of her life. She was freaking out about turning 40. She just thought, when I turn 40, it's gonna be horrible. And then she like woke up and she was like, this is the fucking best. And she was like, no one tells you that actually like you're 40s.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But again, I think it's different when you have kids. I know. And it's made me reflect on like, obviously there are so many times that I will be disappointed or judgmental of myself that I, you know, I'm having kids later in life. Or I'm having. Like, I will have kids later in life. But then I, yeah, talk to a lot of my friends
Starting point is 00:14:51 who are in their 40s and 50s who have kids and who tell me these stories of waking up suddenly and realizing I've given myself to other people. I've given myself to my husband or partner, my kids, and I don't know who I am. Before I became me Before I became me. I became me, and I feel like, that's why I feel so excited about having kids now,
Starting point is 00:15:09 because I feel like I've done all of it. I know myself, I've grown, I've done all the work. I'm the best version of me that I could be. I think I'll be the best possible mom that I could be now, rather than 10 years ago or whatever. Last summer. Last summer. Last summer. And not that that won't happen to me or I won't have also, but I think that that's the
Starting point is 00:15:34 upside of also waiting that we don't necessarily think about or talk about too. Yeah, totally agree. I was thinking the same thing. There's a huge benefit to adding people in once you really, there's nothing to regret at that point. It's like I did me for a long time and now I'm ready to bring more people to the table. Yeah, I'm sure there's always resentment, but I feel like if I had had kids like five years ago, I would be resentful. There were so many things I wanted to do with my career
Starting point is 00:16:01 and things that I care about and I really went 150% into it. It feels good actually to take a step back in a way that I think it would have or I would have felt frustrated and I'm sure it still does. Yeah, it's just fascinating. I was at this dinner last night with all these women I didn't know. It kept coming up this idea of age and not feeling your age until it's like, oh my gosh, whoa, what's happening with my body or what's happening with my feelings about my partner or my life. I really recommend it. I can't wait till you finish. Me too. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Oh, wow. Yeah, I have a really bad reason that I didn't finish it is that I'm deep in Love Island. Oh! I know. No, I like that. But it's taking over our household in the best way possible. It's really, I think, the thing uniting the country right now. We need something.
Starting point is 00:16:57 We really do. I was listening to another podcast the other day and someone was talking about how we have to start looking at this country, this time that we're all in, as like, this is our team. You know, the last generation, that's their team. You get put on a team when you're born, basically, and you don't really get to pick, but that's your team. And you have to make decisions together and you have to try to win together. And we are so not thinking of it like that. And I really think that's a beautiful way of approaching the future.
Starting point is 00:17:32 It's just like, this is the team you get and you have to make it work with that team. Yeah. You're like on a flight together. And so if you start killing it, like it's like you're ruining your flight, you know? It all affects you if you can't make it work. Right. Should we give our presents? Oh my god, yeah, we haven't even...
Starting point is 00:17:49 We haven't even given our presents yet! Okay, I'll tell everyone what happened. So we were supposed to record like days and days and days ago, but my present, part of the present hadn't arrived yet. And so you were very flexible. And then we were supposed to record yesterday and it still hadn't arrived. And then it did arrive. So it's here.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Cause mine has two parts. How do you wanna do it? Yeah, how do we do it? Should I give you mine first? Yeah, sure. Now these are paper gifts. These are for us. Reminding everyone.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And we had to make them. That was, okay, so mine. Yes, but I cheated, but that's fine. You, okay. I did not, and so you have to remember. You followed the rules. Yeah, I wish I could have bought this instead of making it. So take that into consideration when you're assessing what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Okay, so... Do you have to preface it? Well, kind of. Okay, do it. So essentially, I made you a panada. What? No, you did not. What?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Oh my god. It's your color of the year did not. What? Oh my god. It's your color of the year, Pantone. Oh my god, how cute. We're gonna have to take a picture. It looks like I threw it up. I love it. Something you would see coming out after a surgery. It does look like maybe it could be my egg.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It could be your egg. One of my two eggs. One of your two floating eggs. No, it's beautiful. Pantone. That's so thoughtful. So while I was watching Love Island, I did this. How'd you do it?
Starting point is 00:19:14 So basically, I thought this was very well known, but my roommate looked at me like how you look at me when I say, quadrant, where I was like, you know, when you make a piƱata with a balloon, do you know what I'm talking about? Okay, I've heard of it. We did this like in elementary school. No child who grew up in Quebec in the 90s didn't make a pinata out of balloon and then newspaper and then you make the glue out of flower and water. Oh my god. Yes, and then I bought the color, the pink tone color and then these little like pompons to make it
Starting point is 00:19:45 kind of weird and pretty. Pretty and cool. And inside the pinata, so it's a words of affirmation pinata. Oh. Should I explain it or should I let you open it? Do I have to pop it? Well, I didn't bring like a big bat because I thought you wouldn't want to put a blindfold on so you can make like a little hole with like a knife and then inside there are words of affirmation about you.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And so the idea came from Erica, who in the comments said you should make a pinata and then we were going back and forth. I was like, oh my God, we should include everyone saying what they love about Monica in there. And then Erica was like, and then for the year anniversary for all of the listeners, they can send in what they love about Synced, and then I can make the piƱata
Starting point is 00:20:30 for next week maybe. Oh, Erica's going to make the piƱata. Erica is like, volunteered to do like a Synced piƱata so that everyone can write in, and then we can open it on her. I love that. That's so great. It's so thoughtful.
Starting point is 00:20:44 So if people want to write in, Erica has an amazing company. It's called The No Who's. You can find it on Instagram at The No Who's. You'll see her on there. And so maybe Erica can post, like, submit here. Yes. And you guys can go there and say whatever you want to say.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Try not to say mean stuff. If you can. like, submit here and you guys can go there and say whatever you wanna say. Try not to say mean stuff if you can. And maybe actually we can open it on the anniversary of our egg freezing. That's a really good idea. Oh, I'm gonna cry. And that's in August, so there's a little time. Okay, that's fun.
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Starting point is 00:22:52 Okay, so I have a Skims story. I was wearing the soft lounge tank and boxer, which I got the idea from you to pair with like a white... Button down. Button down. Cute. And I went like to the grocery store. Like it was like, you know when like you put your hair even inside the hat?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like my hair was such a mess. Like I was just like literally like I need to go get my food. And I was like eating, I was like mid bite in this big donut coming out of the grocery store and this like bus driver like stopped me and he was like, you look absolutely amazing. Like gave me this like such a sweet compliment. And I was like, this set slaps. It really does. Yeah. And again, it's like, who would have thought that that would look good?
Starting point is 00:23:29 Like that wearing sort of lounge can look that elevated and that's Skims. So cute. I know. I just bought another one of the lounge sets, the Lounge Tank and Boxer. I bought it in pink. Oh my, now I have to get it. You have to get it. Shop the Skims Soft Lounge Collection at skims..com now available in sizes XXS to 4X. If you haven't yet, be sure to let them know we sent you. After you place your order, select synced in the survey and select our show in the drop down menu that follows. Okay, so here's your panjada.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Oh my god. It's so pretty. I feel bad popping it. No, do not. I can't believe it's Pantone. Oh my god. Shake it. ASMR.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Hey, I'm gonna pop it. Also, this is so funny because our presents are very Saint. Really? Yeah. Stop. Okay, hold on. I'll be right back. Scissors? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Okay. I just think it's more dramatic with a knife with scissors probably safer. Yeah, scared. Okay. Ready? Go. Oh, I feel so angry. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I'm sad. How did it get injured? It's injured. Should I pull it? No. I'm so angry. Wow, I'm sad. How did you get injured? Should I pull it apart? Wow. Oh my God. Piana. Oh, it's so cute.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Paper. Who knew it could be so fun? Should I read it or no? I'm going to save it. Oh, this is so sweet. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it. Cute! Paper, who knew it could be so fun? Should I read it or no? Or should I save it? Oh, this is so sweet, Liz. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I'll read one. Oh, this is from Ruthie. You really went, you, you, you're so sweet. This is from Ruthie, best friend Erin Weakley's wife. It says, there's nothing I love more than sitting at a wine bar and talking about life with Monica Padman. How sweet.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Oh, this is so thoughtful. Wow. I want to keep reading them, but also I'm like, do I spread it out? Yeah, that could be cute. Spreading it out. When you need a little like, pick me up. A little boost.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I feel like I'll just read them all. I won't blame you. You are the mightiest of all mice and the biffiest of biffles. Dax. I love Monica so much that I have a shared note in my phone of Monica's musings that I can't wait to add to during a lifetime of hangs with the very best hang. Oh my god. This is too much.
Starting point is 00:26:04 This feels overwhelming. I'm going to stop now. I love it though. I love it. You are so loved. Okay. It's your turn. Oh, fine. Okay. It's two parts. Now, why don't you open the part that you had to wait for?
Starting point is 00:26:21 And it's the part that is a cheat. Okay. It was bought. Because yes, it was bought. Paper box. And I did not wrap it, which is not like me. Ooh. Wait. Monica.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Oh. How did you do this? Monica. Monica. Chips for chips. I'm deceased. Actually, tell people what it is. Oh my god, sorry, I'm so speechless.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Monica made me a personalized Lay's potato chips, synced happy one year anniversary edition of Lay's. It's our cover art and it says happy one year anniversary. And now Liz is on a potato chip. Oh my god! This is the best day of my life. I don't know what to do with myself. I'm like really deeply touched. Yay, good. I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Dude! What the fuck? That is like the nicest gift I've ever received in my life. It's you. I'm... How did you make these? It was on Etsy. I just looked for like personalized chip bags. Because you deserve to be on a chips bag. This means so much to me. I can't believe this exists. It's also a little throwback to your favorite things, because you said personalized Oreos.
Starting point is 00:27:46 This is beyond. I'm so moved. Yay! I'm so moved. This is art. This is really pretty. And I know that you used to put them in a... Duo-tang.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Duo-tang. Talk about a throwback. So you could put one in a Duo-Tang. Duo-Tang. Duo-Tang. Talk about a throwback. So you could put one in a Duo-Tang. This needs to be exposed. Like this is art. It needs to be framed. It needs to be framed and just preserved for eternity. I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Oh, thank you. You're so good at gifts. It really puts everyone else in shape. You are. This is incredible. No, like you are like next level. It's a little bit of a cheat, but I also thought it's kind of like paper. This chip bag is paper.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I think it counts. Oh my god. OK, but your real gift. I can't believe you. Your real paper gift is this. And this is very synced. Guys, if you have a friend like Monica, like this is, I'm sure, relatable. Just having a friend who's literally the best gift giver in the world is a gift and a curse,
Starting point is 00:28:47 because there's no way I could ever give you a gift that says, good, oh my god, okay. Liz, happy one-year anniversary, synced. This podcast has been such a joy, a true highlight of the week, getting to be silly, real stupid and poignant all at once is a true privilege. In this box, there are nine cards labeled for different needs,
Starting point is 00:29:11 occasions, emotions, et cetera. Read them accordingly, and you'll get a little note from your synced mate. If I was ovulating, I'd be like crying right now. Monica! So there's different cards, they're labeled. So what do some of them say? Open on a day you feel less than. And then there's a card.
Starting point is 00:29:30 There's a card. So on the day that you feel less than. Do you feel less than right now? No. Then don't open it yet. I feel great right now. I feel amazing. So yeah, whenever you're feeling like one of those things, then you look.
Starting point is 00:29:41 One of them has an actual date on it though. Mother's Day. Open on Mother's Day. Wow. Open on a day you need a cheerleader. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm so blown away. I'm so blown away.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Oh my God. Jesus. Jesus Christ superstar. Jesus Christ superstar. Mary Catherine Paulson. Did Mary Catherine Paulson write into me? I should. Actually, now I'm like, I fucked up. I fucked up. Mary Catherine Paulson, you better write to Erika. Just please write into this, to Erika.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah, yeah. So that we can include you. We'd love to include you. Did I tell you that when I went live from Costco, because I went to Costco for the first time the day before Fourth of July, Mary Paulson, Mary... to include you. Did I tell you that when I went live from Costco, because I went to Costco for the first time, the day before Fourth of July, Mary Paulson, Mary, what's her? Catherine Paulson? It's Mary Kate Olson.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Mary Kate. She was like, I'm Mary Catherine Paulson's friend. All caps. It's like become a whole. Stop. Yeah, we love. Wait, we need merch and we need it to say Mary Catherine Paulson.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yes, we need it. We gotta get on top of that. I love this. But okay, it's been such a beautiful year. Oh my God. We need it now. We need it. We gotta get on top of that. I love this. But okay, it's been such a beautiful year. Oh my God. It's so fun. I'm so glad we did our little paper gifts. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I think number two is like diamonds or something. Let me double check. Diamonds. Uh-oh. Saving now. Start saving, yep. Second anniversary gift. I think it might be wood actually.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Let's see. Oh, that's fun. I can't stop staring at my chips. Cotton is number two. Interesting. We have a year to think about it. Yes. A year to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And also thanks mainly to the SYNC Squad. Yes. Who's been hanging out with us for a whole year and writing in incredible questions for us to just muse on. So lucky. Yeah. I feel like it's just the best group on earth. Anytime anyone comes up to us, it's just the chillest, coolest person. The questions keep me up at night. And I mean, again, not to sound cheesy, but sort of what we were just talking about all being on the same team. I do, I feel that. Like if like we have a little team of people who are on the same page and who are trying to be better. We're
Starting point is 00:31:54 just trying, period. It's really lovely. So speaking of that, we have some new questions. Let's do some newbies. You look so hot. Oh, in the picture. So do you. It's a great picture. Like you should be on every bag of chips. That's a good picture.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's a great picture. Shout out Nick Rasmussen, who shot our cover art. He also shot Race to 35 for us. He did. He's really good. If you're in LA and you need a good photographer, he's incredible. Okay, let's see what we got. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Oh, this is interesting. I love seeing your reactions to questions. These are great. What is the etiquette around having different condom sizes for a new partner? Oh! Laura. Hi, Monica and Liz. Hearing your perspectives brightens my week
Starting point is 00:32:48 and as a newly single gal, I'm hoping you can help. My last partner was extremely well endowed, but a train wreck, that's over. And now I have leftover condoms, full box sealed, unused in the regular size, but also Magnum and Magnum XL. In a way, it's great to be prepared with a range. The former Girl Scout in me is proud, but what should I offer a future lover? Do I start offering regular, and if he needs a bigger size, reach in my drawer and solve
Starting point is 00:33:13 that problem, and again, if he needs bigger than that? Not sure if a gentleman would be as impressed as my selection of options or be like, what the heck was in you before and now I'm insecure? Or get misconceptions about my promiscuity, especially if it's someone I'd want to be in a relationship with. Do I offer the largest for their ego, but then would they feel bad if it wasn't the right size for them? Do I just throw the magnum and magnum excels out? I've got my eye on who I hope will next be in my bedroom, who I'd love to be in a relationship
Starting point is 00:33:43 with, so I wouldn't want my options for safe sex to spoil the moment. Appreciate your take on this. Thank you. Wow. Great cue. Great cue. Damn. Has she seen his dick? I don't think so. I mean, once you see it, assess the sitch.
Starting point is 00:33:57 That's true. I have my own. This isn't the hill I'll die on, but I do find it annoying that men aren't coming with their own condoms. That too. I'm like, hmm. I know it's good protocol to have, but that should be a just in case. Not that you're always having to provide that. Absolutely not. I think it's like weird if you're or not weird but- You're expected to. Yeah, and he knows what's best for him. It's even, again, guys know what size they are,
Starting point is 00:34:31 what kind they like. I don't think it's up to you to figure out it's good to have in case, but why isn't he showing up with condoms? Okay, so then I would probably say, like, do you have a condom? If they said no, which is annoying, you could say, I have some if you want to get one and then just like point to the drawer and maybe don't have the boxes because then
Starting point is 00:34:53 maybe that looks like, oh my God, why does she have like so many boxes of condoms? Which by the way, I don't think you should be worried about looking promiscuous because you are being safe. Exactly. You're literally like, it's the opposite. But if you have any insecurity around that, maybe just dump a bunch out into the... Just throw a bunch of condoms on him. Yeah, in your nightstand or whatever. Just have some of each size.
Starting point is 00:35:18 But make that his problem. Right. I'd have never met a guy who doesn't want a magnum. They're lying to themselves, a lot of them. Maybe. I think there's a whole condom conversation that, like, no one's really having right now, which is that people are not using condoms. It's not a personal judgment. I think it's just an observation. It obviously can have real consequences. You have to be extra careful now. I mean, always.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Always. But if you are in a state where you can't protect yourself after. One hundred percent. It's so weird to me that a guy, yeah, especially a red state wouldn't show up with condoms. I really hope he's not pro-life if he's doing that. What do you think happened? This is a theory. It's so anecdotal.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I think part of it is so many women have IUDs. Thankfully, they're still legal and vote accordingly. But anecdotally, because I don't have an IUD. So I use condoms and I've noticed, I think in the last maybe five years, it's almost like assumed with a lot of people that we're not going to use a condom. And I'm like, oh, yes, we are. Like sometimes they don't have them or they'll say they don't really work for me, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:27 There's so many things that people say to avoid using them. But I'm always a little shocked at how freely people are sort of willing to do it. And yeah, I have a lot of friends who have told me like, yeah, I know I shouldn't do it, but because I have an IUD, like I think for me, there's just a double threat.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And I kind of like that. Again, I get in the heat of the moment. I mean, look, no condom feels better, that's my opinion, and apparently that's not true, but we all know. What does that mean it's not true? I mean, I think it's like a thing that people say so that people use condoms. And again, it's still pleasurable,
Starting point is 00:36:58 and I think you can still have a great time and then not be stressed out about the consequences of not wearing condoms. Well, it's not gonna be pleasurable if you're stressed. No. Oh, God. I mean, yeah, I experienced that. Right, I think we've talked about this. Yeah, because I just did it.
Starting point is 00:37:14 But I was on birth control. Yeah, it does give you a little... Because when you're in the heat of the moment, you're not thinking in the same way that you are if you're not highly aroused. And so I see how I would end up in that being like, oh, okay, it's not that bad. Yeah, you're in this moment and it almost feels,
Starting point is 00:37:29 and this is horrible, it feels like you'd be insulting them to require it. And that's crazy. That's really bad old school patriarchal wiring, but it's in there. Well, that's why I'll just say, do you want to have a baby? I'll just literally, when they resist it want to have a baby? Like, I'll just literally, like, when they, like, resist it,
Starting point is 00:37:45 I'm like, okay, so... And then usually that, like... Kicks them into gear. Yeah, just stop whining. So coming back to the question, you know what I'd do? I would make a condom bowl with all the different flavors and sizes and say, like, here. You don't even have to say anything.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I guess that's sort of what I'm saying about the drawer. Have it free-flowing in the drawer. The bowl seems a little dramatic. Okay, so... Right. Personally. You have a fishbowl in your apartment. Exactly. It feels a little...
Starting point is 00:38:14 Creepmatic. You know? Even though it's not, it is, it's all safety, but it's like, ooh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know that I would love walking into even a guy's apartment and then there was like a fishbowl out of condoms. But a drawer where there's a bunch and you can just sort of like gesture and say like, I do have some, you can take one.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It's not on you. No, if he's just never showing up, listen, we have so many jobs and so many responsibilities and so much money we spend on our reproductive. Preparing. they can take on that role and responsibility. Do you remember the episode of Friends where there's only one condom left and then Monica and Rachel play rock-paper-scissors? When you saw it in 1996 or whatever Ross and Richard exactly did you know that that's what was going on?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Because I watched that episode and I was clearly too young. Because they never say the word condom. Or maybe I didn't even know what a condom was, but I was too young. I understood that one of them could have sex and the other one couldn't, but I didn't understand that it was because there was one condom. Oh, interesting. I don't think they actually say the word condom. They probably don't.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I think I did know, but I was a late adopter. Of condoms? Of friends. You were. Even though it became my whole life, it started in 94. I was not watching it then. Oh, you weren't? I didn't know that, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I started watching it when I was in, I think, eighth grade. So I knew at that point, I think, oh God, that would be so embarrassing if not. It's not embarrassing. That was Monica and Rachel going to get the condom. This is where we learned it. What the hell? Nineties.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Nineties were different. We have to work hard to change it. When you watch Clueless, did you understand that the guy was gay? No, I didn't understand anything. I didn't understand it. But I loved it. I loved it so much. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I watched it on repeat. But we didn't know what. But I loved it. I loved it so much. I watched it on repeat. But we didn't know what was going on. No. He says something, and it's about her being on her period. I didn't understand it at the time. It took me years before I realized, oh, he's talking about a period. I was literally 30 when I was like, oh, that guy was gay. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Her friend. Yeah, her friend. Because she has such a crush on him. You don't understand when you're eight years old why they're no longer like, and again, Oh, that guy was gay. Right. Her friend, yeah, her friend. Because she has such a crush on him. You don't understand when you're eight years old why they're no longer like, and again, they never say gay. Oh, I think he says something like, riding the crimson tide. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:40:34 Period. Oh, see, I still wouldn't get it if I watched school is now. But with my adult brain, I would get what they mean. Right. But when you're a kid, I remember my mom vividly of like washing friends. She didn't want me to watch it, but I watched it anyways. And then I would laugh at a joke and she was like, why did you laugh at that? What was the joke? And it was probably a sex joke. I didn't get it, but I still loved it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 So interesting with the laugh track on Friends, because then you're prompted to laugh. So maybe you're reverse engineering a little. It's like, oh, that was funny. Why must be sexual? It just goes to show how good those stories were. Like, that it was just so good, even if you didn't understand what's going on. Totally. Clueless. I know. The fact that it hit a generation, so many generations, but majorly ours, and we didn't
Starting point is 00:41:20 know what half the things were. That's shocking. What a feat. That's shocking. What a feat. That's incredible. Yeah. Paul Rudd. He looks the same. He looks the same.
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Starting point is 00:42:34 You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription starter kit by going to fatty15.com slash sync, and use code SYNC at checkout. Okay, this is interesting. Help, I just found out I'm pregnant. Congratulations. But my friend signed us up for a wine tasting to celebrate my birthday. What do I do?
Starting point is 00:43:02 It's from anonymous. My husband and I just found out that we're pregnant with our first baby after three years of infertility and trying to conceive. And of course we are so happy, but trying to keep it a secret until I reach 13 weeks. In just a couple of weeks, we're going on a cruise with some friends.
Starting point is 00:43:17 And we'll be celebrating my birthday on one of the days at sea. I accidentally found out that my friends signed us up for a group wine tasting excursion as a surprise for my birthday when I logged into the cruise app. They know I love wine and it's such a thoughtful gift, but now I can't do it and have no idea how to turn them down without giving away the fact that I'm pregnant. If I tell them outright, they'd know before my mom and the rest of our family, which is not an option in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:43:40 What excuse do I give? How do I get out of this? I think about this all the time. I have one word for you, antibiotics. Just tell people you're on antibiotics. I would do that when I stopped drinking and I felt weird about it. Cause in New York, LA is different. LA in my experience, tons of people are sober, tons of people are driving. Like if you don't drink, it's like totally normal. And in New York, basically I would just get peer pressured. Again, I didn't require a lot of peer pressure, but you get more questions if you say you're not drinking,
Starting point is 00:44:06 and it's just like, so I just would say, oh, I'm on antibiotics, I can't drink. No one's like, come on, dude, don't make me sick. So it's just an easy thing. You don't need to like say more, and people understand, and it just taps you out basically. Yeah, I like that. Without needing to say more.
Starting point is 00:44:23 This just requires a straight-up excuse or lie. I'm tempted to say, you'd say, like, I'm taking a break from drinking, but that doesn't make any sense when you're going on a cruise and it's your birthday. Exactly. So you can't say that. If I was in her position, you really don't want people to know
Starting point is 00:44:40 because you don't want to talk about it. It would be so devastating. You do not need to tell anyone. Yes. If I was your friend, I would want you to lie to me. Yeah. And so I just think saying the thing that raises no questions is very neutral. There's no like, it's just like, oh, I'm on two weeks of antibiotics to get rid of this UTI. Whatever. I can't drink. It sucks. I hate it. And again, I'm sure you are bummed. You can't do it.
Starting point is 00:45:01 So I would just be honest, be like, oh, I'm really bummedmed but I won't be able to drink can we do something else? Or you can go. I have thoughts about that. You do. I mean I'm not deep into no longer drinking. I still do the same things but when it's prolonged, no. It's a whole day and that's the central focus. If I was on my friends I'd have so much fun anyways I'd probably do it but it just makes you more creative in terms of activities. But if you want to do it, you should do it. Yeah. I think that's a good excuse. I haven't heard that one.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I mean, also I know friends who've like, they'll order a glass of wine and then like, their husband will drink it and they'll like, pretend like they drank it. One of my friends came over for dinner. It was a dinner party and she was newly pregnant. There would be like no reason for her not to. So I poured all the wine, and I don't know how it happened,
Starting point is 00:45:53 because her husband is sober, so he definitely wasn't drinking it. But maybe he took the glasses to refill and then like poured some out. I don't know. It's too risky for your mental health, for people to start wondering or say something. I'm gonna, it's gonna be so obvious.
Starting point is 00:46:09 100%. Again, UTI. Also, UTIs are so common. And again, maybe because it literally would happen to me a lot in my 20s, because I got UTIs every two seconds. I think on my birthday once, I really couldn't drink,
Starting point is 00:46:19 because I don't want to make this any worse. You're also just better than me. Like I drank on antibiotics for sure. When you have a UTI? In college, I had this crazy kidney stone slash kidney infection slash bladder infection. They like kind of didn't really know. But then I was like, you know, peeing in the strainer
Starting point is 00:46:38 and it was a disaster. Yeah, it was, I've never been in so much pain in my whole life. That sounds horrible. It was so bad. I went to the hospital and all to say, I ended up been in so much pain in my whole life. That sounds horrible. It was so bad. I went to the hospital and all to say, I ended up on antibiotics and then I was fine. Like I was fine on those and a couple days into antibiotics, it was my birthday and in college, we had these huge blowout house parties for all of our birthdays.
Starting point is 00:47:01 They were so fun and my birthday was always the beginning of the year. It was the first one. It was so fun. I was like, I have to drink. Yeah, you drink. And of course I drank. And I think we asked, like my friend's mom was a nurse and she was kind of like, it's fine, I guess. It depends on the antibiotic. I mean, what it does is make it less effective. It makes it less effective. Exactly. Yeah mean what it does is make it less effective
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah, exactly definitely shouldn't have done it, but I was fine. I mean you don't have a kidney stone right now Basically like the point is no one's gonna bully you for not drinking on antibiotics unless your friends are frat boys Usually people are like, oh that sucks and then you don't really have to like answer anything else. Yeah. That's a good excuse. I think it's the only excuse. Yeah, I don't know what else you could say. I mean, you can say you have Candida. That's why I stopped drinking it last summer.
Starting point is 00:47:53 A lot of women know what it's like. But they might be like, just one glass. Yes, that's true. You did. I'm sure I did that. You might get that, but you can say, no, I'm having so many yeast infections. I really want to get rid of it. Or again having so many yeast infections, I really want to get rid of it. Or again, with this antibiotic, I just really want to get rid of this infection.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Okay, I like that. Also, it's your birthday, so like people want you to have a good time. Like if they're focused on like them drinking, just coming up with again, whether it's antibiotics or you have kindredes or you have like vaginal health issues, making it very short and sweet so that there's no holes. I think that's good. Okay, let's do one more. So exciting to be pregnant. Yeah, sending you lots of love and good vibes. Yeah. Okay, this is interesting. Is my husband wrong for not helping a female employee lift a heavy box? Kaitlyn, hi Monica and Liz. My husband and I recently and impulsively bought a new TV.
Starting point is 00:48:47 When we went to the store to pick it up, there were two employees, one of which was female, lifting the very heavy boxes into our car. The female made a couple remarks about it being heavy, and I was surprised when my husband didn't hop out of the car to assist her. This came as a shock to me as my husband is a very traditional Southern gentleman.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I immediately felt embarrassed, but didn't know if this embarrassment was because of my husband's lack of action or the guilt I carry around any time we make a large purchase. My husband has a very successful career and we are able to afford things that I've never been able to afford before. I know this is something I struggle with.
Starting point is 00:49:20 So am I crazy for expecting my husband to help an employee do her job or should he have gone the extra step and helped her? I think both can be true. I think you might be like sitting with like, oh, that was a big purchase. And so maybe you're feeling a little off or in your head, especially if that's your background. That makes total sense. But I think the him not helping is its own thing. And this is complicated in a way it shouldn't be. This should be easy, but it's actually complicated because to me, yes, he should have helped her.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And then also it's like, women can do everything by themselves. They don't need help. A man's coming to help me, I got this. I feel the same way. And if I was her, I would be like thinking about this for days. Like I would be haunted by this.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I totally understand how, again, you're like, wait, what does this mean? Why didn't he? It would give me like the ick. Like I would just be confused. At the same time, just interviews I've done with men for my book, there are a lot of men who now don't do traditionally chivalrous things for women because they think that the woman will be offended
Starting point is 00:50:27 because it means that they don't think that she can do her job on her own. And so when I remember that, it helps me, because let's be honest, in 2024, women are encountering men who fall short of our expectations all of the time in this particular department. Yeah, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:50:45 When it happens to me, I take it very personally, or again, I'll make a judgment on the guy. But then I catch myself being like, oh, maybe, again, having talked to some of my guy friends, even one guy once was like, is it sexist if I pay on the first date? And I was like, no! Like, how is this the message?
Starting point is 00:51:01 But they don't know. And so they often would just freeze, actually, and they'd rather do nothing than do something that's wrong, right? Or do something that would offend, How is this the message? But they don't know. And so they often would just freeze, actually, and they'd rather do nothing than do something that's wrong, right? Or do something that would offend. Not to sound like a tradwife, but I do think that people are very afraid to do things. Oh, in general, yes, everyone's afraid. For good reason, also.
Starting point is 00:51:18 For real reasons, yeah. People are, get offended, people get upset. And I think particularly there are a lot of men who are just doing nothing. I think it applies to like a lot of things, even like national conversations around women's reproductive health and just things where you're like, wait, why aren't you protecting me? Why aren't you stepping up? And they just feel like, well, if I say something,
Starting point is 00:51:38 I'm gonna say it wrong. If I do something, I'm gonna do it wrong. It's weird to even say, I want protection from a man, even though it's true. I want it if it makes me sexist. I know, exactly. To pull this even more back, if we were together in this car
Starting point is 00:51:54 and there's two women who are struggling with something heavy, I would go help them regardless. Obviously, if it's a man, it's even more visible and clear that there should be support, but I would help them. Maybe I think I'm a better person than I am, but I would just be like, oh, do you need help? You could just ask.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Yes. And then it's not just like, here I am coming to the rescue. Yeah, saving the day. A man's needed here. But if they need help, they'll be like, yeah. And that would be the part that I'm like, why didn't you at least offer? But also we don't know what,
Starting point is 00:52:25 maybe he was thinking about- Who knows what was happening in his head in that moment. Maybe he saw something on his phone from his mom. He's off in his own world, who knows? But I do think if I was in that situation and my boyfriend was not helping and they were struggling behind me and he was just like not paying attention.
Starting point is 00:52:42 This is just my personality. I'd be like, hey, I think you should help us. And then I would say, do you guys need help? Right. And then offer him up. Exactly. And then they're like, yeah. Then go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go, go. Go help them. But I don't know if that's just a specific personality type. It's not rude, is it? No, I really don't think so. I mean, I understand why maybe she didn't say anything in the moment because she was like expecting him to do it and he wasn't do it. So I understand the't think so. I mean, I understand why maybe she didn't say anything in the moment, because she was like expecting him to do it and he wasn't doing it, so I understand the like delay there. But yeah, I would do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I'd just be like, do you guys need help? Also men love flow. I know. That moment. Be useful. And that's why I have another question. Like, this is such a great question because there's so many layers of the onion to peel.
Starting point is 00:53:24 When you see a man struggling or like particularly an older man that needs help. I go to this coffee shop. Well, I don't want to expose this guy. He's probably not listening. There's this like nine-year-old man who goes to this coffee shop that I go to. He has a cane. He's very independent, but definitely a senior. Yes, I think if this was a woman, I would be opening doors, I would be... And when it's a man with a cane, it
Starting point is 00:53:53 really then becomes this weird thing of, is he going to... Again, it's such a gender thing, but in the other way, right? Where is this going to emasculate him because I'm offering help? And I hate that. I hate that. And the thing is, it probably does. Talking about national debates, this whole existential question on the progressive side. What the people of a certain age can do. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:19 That we will not name. Like, I don't know if this was a woman. Like, there's a lot of ego attached. There's so much ego. Yes. But that's the part that I find infuriating. It's woman, like there's a lot of ego attached. There's so much ego. Yes. But that's the part that I find infuriating. It's like we're all just not gonna physically help a person because of the fragile male ego. I feel the same, I'm infuriated,
Starting point is 00:54:34 because it has national consequences right now and like global consequences, but on a personal level, to our point of men love to be useful, that's their moment where they feel like, this is the thing I do. If they can't do that anymore, I think it really does fuck with them. And even my dad, like my dad had a stroke and we left the hospital. While I was there, the nurse had said like, oh, get up and how do you feel
Starting point is 00:54:54 from a scale from one to 10? And at the time he was like, I'm a 10. It's great. And my dad was just like walking around, like everything was fine. And we were walking home, which already I was like, don't you want to call a car? And two days later, he was like, yeah, when the nurse said, are you a one out of 10, I said 10, but I wasn't. I was more of a seven, but I felt like I needed to say 10. It makes me so emotional. I know, it's so sad. It's like women also don't want to feel weak and physically unable to do things, but I
Starting point is 00:55:22 think when men can't, it really is like existential for them. It is. That's really true. But like, I don't know how to fix that because we all just have to give men permission to be fallible, to be weak. Like that's not all of us to do. It's so, it is so unfair that they are burdened with this idea that they have to say 10 or that if to be 90 and like not able to open a door, but you have to let them open a door, that's our collective failing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And that there's something, quote unquote, weak about needing support and needing help, like when the best people have people, right? Like the best people, which is like a whole then disability argument too, of just like so many disabled women, obviously dating is difficult already and having a disability adds a whole other layer to it. But again, men told me like being disabled and male because if you're a straight woman and you're disabled, needing help, needing support, a man might
Starting point is 00:56:22 even be turned on by that. Whereas a man needing support from a woman, like it goes against these conventional norms, gender norms, and it's really difficult. Yeah, we view it as feminine, or we view it as weak, and it's not. We, all of us, it's not just men, we're doing it. Women are doing it to them as well. And all we can do is sort of control our role in it.
Starting point is 00:56:45 But then circling back to this question, so maybe he was just like, I don't feel like I can lift it. Right. That could be going on too. He doesn't want to. I mean, it's probably not, but what if, and then we're like, you should be helping. What if he's like, I can't, but I have to because I'm a man. I don't know. This is complex. Yeah. This is like my favorite kind of question because it's innocuous, but it is so not. It is so deep. It's revealing of like so many important conversations or again, just norms and rules and like mores. Mores? Sure. Yeah. I like that. I haven't heard that word in a while, but yeah. I like that. Haven't heard that word in a while, but yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 00:57:25 That sort of guide our human behavior. And again, like the fact that I want a man, that I enjoy a man doing physical labor, that probably means I'm proud of the problem. I think it's the truth. It's your truth and it's my truth too. I am the same, but I do often think this isn't good. This is part of-
Starting point is 00:57:44 This isn't good. Your head tilt. Ah, but I do often think this isn't good. This is part of- This isn't good. Your head tilt. Like, I'm not helping. Okay, I feel weird talking about it because I don't want, I just feel bad talking about it, but it's so relevant to what we're talking about right now, so I feel like I'm going to say. I was at a bar with friends and one of my friends, a female, was ordering a drink,
Starting point is 00:58:08 and it came with this beautiful ice cube in it, and it was shaped like a rose, and she said, oh my gosh, it's so beautiful. And this random stranger next to her, man, older man, was like, that's so gay. No. Yep. This happened in 2024.
Starting point is 00:58:26 2024 in Los Angeles. What? I know. I was like, did you time travel, sir? Like, I don't get it. I wasn't there for what happened. Like, I was sitting outside. And so she came back with her drink and she was really upset.
Starting point is 00:58:41 She's also gay. Oh my God. The man didn't know that, but it's so irrelevant. It's like, wow, who, using that word as a pejorative currently is bad. Oh my god, so offended. I know. Very upsetting for her. And she was kind of like, I don't know why I'm so upset. And I was like, of course. For one, it caught you way off guard. It's upsetting. It's a pejorative about your identity. And I was like, this would be like if I was like,
Starting point is 00:59:07 oh, this is so nice. And someone said, that's so Indian, ew. I'd be like, what? I think she was able to hear when she could like remove it from herself. She was like, oh yeah, yeah, that's awful. I was like, yeah, that's what happened. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:59:21 So that was awful. And we were there with some other people and one of these people, a man, got up, it felt like was gonna go approach, confront. And of course we're like, no, don't. And that's true. It was like, no, no, no, no, don't do that. That's not needed.
Starting point is 00:59:36 We don't need a confrontation. But I think what happens is this is on us. It's like, but I kinda like it. Yes. No, don't go, but no, but I kind of like it. Yes. No, don't go, but no, do. Go protect. Yeah. And then a couple turns of events
Starting point is 00:59:51 and this person didn't end up approaching. And so when they came back, it almost was like a let down. I really. That's crazy that was a let down because Disney need to go start a fucking fight, but we do innately want this protection and that's on us. And then I got snippy about it, which is my fault. Again, we're like requiring it of men and it's not fair.
Starting point is 01:00:16 It's not this person's nature to get up and do anything. And they shouldn't be forced to do something that's not in their nature because it's like fitting a gender norm. Okay, what if that happened, what if you were in a situation and it's your boyfriend and someone says something that's offensive or again, that you're hurt and he doesn't do anything, how do you feel then?
Starting point is 01:00:40 I feel fine unless I do think it's like a cock tease. If he like went up and went and approached and then came back and was like, yeah, that's a nice guy. Oh. Obviously that's a problem. Cause then you just feel like your feelings didn't matter at all.
Starting point is 01:00:58 It like wasn't enough. I got there and then actually wasn't enough of a thing for me to say anything. But if they just don't go in the first place, I don't care. As long as they're like supporting me in the moment. It's just... Wow, wow, wow. It is so complicated.
Starting point is 01:01:14 And this friend did say, he was like, I don't know how to say this, but it's basically like as a man, it's hard to hear this type of pushback from us. Oh, wow. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, I see that. Sure. What an interesting incident. One other thing I'll say is that I've been disrespected in public.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I don't know why, but probably because I'm just a woman living in the world. But yeah, I've had a few kind of events of, yeah, being groped or being touched. And every single time, there is a side of me that comes out that I don't even know who she is, but she is like out for murder. Like, homicidal. That's great.
Starting point is 01:01:52 If it's a guy. If it's a woman, which, you know, obviously has not happened as much or literally has never happened, but it's just a primal, it's like a primitive part of me that just goes like, oh no. And so every time it's happened, I've sprung into action. For me, that usually feels good because then I'm doing something about it. But in two of a few of these incidents,
Starting point is 01:02:12 I have been with men. And once I was with my boyfriend in Denmark, in Copenhagen, and like this happened. King? No, King's friend that I ended up importing. Ha ha ha. Oh, my gosh. Hello, hello. So I was yelling at these guys and have I told you this story? Maybe I've told them.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I don't think so. These guys groped me. I got off my bike. I sprinted back to them. It was like a group of 10 guys and like puffers on the corner of the train station. I don't know what I said, but I was like in that mode of like, I'm going to end you. You were so disrespectful to women and you can't do that and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I don't think people should do this if you're making yourself unsafe. But every time that it's happened, the men do like realize, oh, God, and they feel bad and they stop. But my boyfriend hadn't said anything. I was the one yelling, but he was next to me. And then when we walked away, he was like,
Starting point is 01:03:02 that guy was holding a knife. And looking at me and saying, control your woman. In Danish. And... I know, this is why I'm like, don't do this. Oh, God. So, all this to say that basically, a woman confronting a man, obviously, I'm not calculating the danger, and I should,
Starting point is 01:03:20 there is a danger, but when a man confronts another man, it can get physical. It's a whole other thing in a way that like, hopefully most men don't just like hit a woman and know that doing that in public is bad, whereas hitting another man or like, and so that's one thing I've learned is that in terms of confrontation,
Starting point is 01:03:39 sometimes the safest thing a man can do for the both of you is actually not. Agreed. So yeah, there's so many things at play. And this question is like a whole, we could do a PhD thesis on it. Oh wow. It's so fascinating. Yeah, I'll be thinking about that for a while.
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