Feminism On Trial: Lindsay Clancy Puts All Women’s Rights At Risk w/ Naomi Wolf (Author of “The Beauty Myth”) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 665
00:01Well, we got a lot, ton to get into on this Monday.First off, Naomi Wolf comes back.She always has an interesting perspective.And we're going to talk a little bit about the Lindsay Clancy trial.Social contagion and the TikTok moms and what this all means through the Naomi Wolf's prism,which already she has told me some interesting things.So stand by for that.Shelly Spray going to come by.
00:23Of course, she is from, she was one of my colleagues.She worked in a celebrity rehab.She runs a program now.We're going to talk briefly about Aidan Panthers.and her unfortunate overdose with a single pill, allegedly, of fentanyl-l-laced oxy-contin, which does happen.Then Shane Cashman comes back again.His new book is Good Villains, Howard Lutnik and 9-11, how public figures get built into villains.And I want to talk to him, speaking of villains, a little bit about the death cult that is now AI.
00:54AI is going to kill us all.And unfortunately, I've heard too many claims of imminent demise of the human race for me to getupset about any of it anymore.So we'll see what Shane has to say about that.And then we're going to switch here to talk health.We're going to talk to Trevor Kruder.He is here in studio with me.He is from Alpha Biomed Labs,
01:14peptides. He's a peptide expert.I've got a million questions about peptides,amongst other things,compounding pharmacies.You know I've been all about medical freedom,particularly since COVID opened my eyes.And this is something importantin that whole conversation.
01:30and you should be armed with the facts so you can make your own determinations about so much that is going on in health care that you may not be aware of,you may not know where to get good information, and we'll try to straighten some of those things out today.So first up, Naomi Wolf after this.Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.The psychopaths start this.He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction.Fentanyl and heroin.ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a
02:03I say, where the hell you think I learned that?I'm just saying, you go to treatmentbefore you kill people. I am a clinician.I observe things about these chemicals.Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these callson Loveland all the time, educate adolescents,and to prevent, and to treat.You have trouble, you can't stop, and you want to help stop it.
02:19I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.Our friend Naomi Wolf, independent journalist,co-founder and CEO of DailyClout.io,She edited the Pfizer papers and authors Facing the Beast.And let's see, there's so much name.She's, of course, got famous with the beauty myth and many other sorts of, what should we say, treatments that she has written over the years on feminism and protecting women and women's freedom.And Naomi, as always welcome.Never did I imagine that this is where your campaigns would take you.
03:07but here we are again.Yeah, it all seems with the latest trial we'll talk about,it all seems like such a bittersweet, nostalgic look back at the pastwhen we thought we could liberate women in the world would get better.It sounded, you know, I was talking to Adam Carolla about this this morning,and I was a big advocate.I got a lot of things sort of wrong, and yet I still don't understand why.And that's one of them.
03:40Things should have gotten better.What happened here?What do you imagine happened?Well, I'm being flippant.I mean, a lot of things did get better, right?You know, women can have credit cards, and they're no worse than men.And so there is more of a meritocracy, and the better people rise to the top instead of just half of the good people rising to the top.You know, and you can't just beat your wife or rape your wife.
04:05And I don't want to belittle it.Oh, not that. Naomi, how dare you?Yes, yes.No, you're right.I mean, you know, it's important to look, take a beat and look at the important work that has gone on.It's like anything with the human being, nothing goes straightforward to good.It always goes, either goes back and forth or it brings a bunch of unintended material with it.Yes, but all of that being said, I must acknowledge that feminist leadership in the last few years really seems to have evaporated or where it still exists calling itself feminist leadership, it stands up in favor of the most psychotic, satanic issues like being proudly able to terminate your baby right through your pregnancy in Massachusetts.
05:02let's all stand up as women, you know, for that.I'm pro-choice.No one, you know, five or ten years ago thought that was the goal of abortion rights.And now we've got the Lindsay Clancy trial where, you know, postpartum psychosis is a real thing.Postpartum depression is definitely a real thing.I suffered from it with my first baby.The hormones, you know, you and I talk about hormones a lot.the hormones are like massively impactful after you deliver, especially if there's been some trauma in the delivery or some injury or a C-section, which is a huge operation, which is often minimized.
05:42But it is dispiriting seeing women in the last five years, forget about my body, my choice when it came to the injection, right?That was out the window.Then embracing psychotic, you know, abortion till birth.or neglect the baby for a month after it's alive and, you know, no penalties.And now women turning Lindsay Clancy, I think through a very hyped and manipulated campaign, of course, into a folk heroin.And there seems to be some component of mass formation in it.Is there not?Where people are just swept into it without really thinking about what they're supporting?
06:25Well, I do think we're seeing that happen a lot.Like, I think you and I spoke about this when women were kind of frenziedly accosting ice agents or, you know, women on TikTok celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder, the anniversary of his murder, or, you know, these waves of social acting out that, of behaviors that really 10 years ago in the pre-Tick-Tick-Tick-Tac era would have been seen as very socially,marginal or barbaric or psychotic or dysfunctional.And so definitely there's something, you know, some mix of, you know, Ukraine.I mean, like, whatever it is, it just turned the channel.And yeah, women are particularly susceptible to it.It does seem like middle class women, you know, white and of color are susceptible to it.Statistically, more young women are liberal, which these days stands for,
07:29a lot of bizarre policies, and I say that as a lifelong former liberal, now and independent.So whether it's social media, it could be, you know, the vaccine injury doesn't help.It could be things we're not aware of.Like, I really do worry about the, I mean, I don't want to sound insane, but, you know,we're bathed in electromagnetic fields of all kinds.And we don't know the impact on the human brain of, you know, 4G, 5G,6G, we just don't know yet.We're just one giant experiment right now in terms of these various signals, you know, from
08:09radios and electromagnetic fields, just crisscrossing our environment.Maybe it makes people more gullible or more less able to think critically.You know, the breakdown of the family doesn't help the domination.Let's just add in psychotropic meds.Lindsay Clancy, full full display sort of suboptimal.I won't get too hard on it, but not exactly good health care.Hormones, birth control pills.I mean, we have no idea what's in the water, what's in our plastics.
08:45I mean, keep going.It's a lot of stuff.I agree with you.But I did a little bit of a dive myself in history to try to figure out looking at is this something new.because you said it affects women.And in my head, when you said it,I assume you met like algorithm,really, or something, you know,
09:04the way we're getting all whipped into theseridiculous little bubbles,that women are,seem to be very much involved with that.Right.But it happened, if you read a little bit of history,and again, I may be reading historyor being, maybe it's the algorithm
09:20sending me shit I want to see,but that there is some evidencethat women often,are the leading edge of the mass formation.And apparently this happened in Germany.I hate to be acknowledging this because my generation of feminists fought so hard tolate arrest the notion that women were hysterics.Like we did a whole war on the word hysteria, the concept of hysteria,
09:50or the notion that women are ruled by their hormones.And I actually posted on X, we fought so hard to lay to arrestthe notion that women are ruled by their hormones. Now, all these women are sitting in Oprah's audiencenodding solemnly about the Lindsay Clancy trial at the notion that women are ruled by their hormones.Yes, and of course you can go back to the Salem, which trials and, you know, there have beeneruptions of feminine collectivist consciousness going in nutty directions. Since time immemorial,some of that, I think, of course, is a response to people.patriarchal oppression, right? I mean, those teenage girls in cold, bleak Salem where, you know,
10:34you couldn't wear bright colors or have sex until you were married to someone you didn't likevery much, they were going to act out. And you can't really blame them that much for the initialkind of eruption of the imagination. But there's something else. Women do, and I think this isprobably evolutionary, form bonds and we're more relational. And that, you know, there's been a lotof research on this. Our brains are configured differently. We have more synapses crossing, you know,uniting both hemispheres. So we do think about how things relate to things. I mean, Brian, my husband,often jokes that, you know, men's minds are like those TV dinners where everything had the browniehas a little compartment with mashed potatoes and women's minds are like a giant, you know,
11:27platter of spaghetti where it's just all like it.Goulash.And I don't think he's being particularly, you know, sexist. I think there's some truth to that.I would say that, you know, that what looks like spaghetti to men looks like complex, sophisticatedability to see interrelationships to women.Listen, not only that, I agree.I agree with you a thousand percent.That's why I predicted the female brain would have a net positive impact on society.
11:57If we really got behind him, you have this giant corpus callosum that connects the right and the left.And the right brain is the more holistic, more emotional, more connected to the spiritual, all these things.These are positive, positive, positive.But what you were also talking about evolutionary is this sort of agreeableness thing and this thing to be a part of the group.So from an evolutionary perspective in the environment.of evolutionary adaptedness, women would get ostracized and they and or their children would die as a result.And so ostracism are not being a part of the group is massively impactful.Very terrifying on a subliminal level, conscious level.
12:37Thank you for finishing in a smarter way than I was going to.What I was aiming at, what social media does is it manifests the collective, you know, right there.And the ostracism can be immediate.it. And so I do think women are more vulnerable to feeling like, well, I can't be canceled because, yeah, they'll leave me and my baby on an ice flow. Or I'll be wearing the scarlet letter. I'll be fully exiled from the community. And I will die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And even though that might even be a conscious thought, it's a motivational state. You know, that people have just, you know, we have all kinds of motivational states. Men have weird motivational states, you know, in terms of competition. And, you know,we have one of the strangest ones left behind, which is the issue of paternity, right?The only way we could determine paternity and then justify the investing of all of the years and resources in a child was making sure that I or we, the male, the one in question, was the only one that had access to the uterus.Right.So if there's any question that men go nutty cuckoo.
13:52But that's the point.That's the point.It's nutty cuckoo.It's a stupid thing, but it's in us deeply.And a very violent kinds of emotions attached to it.So there it is.The point is it's not all women having left behind stuff from the evolutionary heritage.No, no, indeed.
14:12We are primates, you know, male and female.And we have, we carry our.you know, primordial anxieties with us.No, I'm with you, but I'm still embarrassed as a woman to see women acting out souncritically and very worried as a citizen because, you know, going back to the LindsayClancy trial, I did mention that I do think some of this is hyped.Doesn't mean it's not also organic.That's the trouble with these campaigns.
14:40They're hyped and then women just, many women fall into line.But that said, I don't, I do feel like this kind of focus.on the jurors. Like, that's very unprecedented, that all these jurors had, you know, likemedia training, it almost seems like, or a media exposure campaign. And they're doing all of theseinterviews. And the net effect of all these interviews is to single out this one male juror whodissented from the collective decision that, you know, Lindsay Clancy was to be pitied and sympathizedwith. Did you notice there's been a.diminished a diminished focus on him because it came out that he's a gentleman of color.
15:23So all of a sudden, the people are confused.Yeah, but the targeting, the unnatural or inorganic campaign targeting of the judicialprocess, I think.The goal is, I mean, I think all of our institutions are under attack, of course.We've talked about this.But in this case, what I see is, you know, the jury of one's peers is one of the lastgreat standing institutions of Western freedom.And something like this will make anyone reluctant to be a juror or reluctant to dissent
15:56if they are a juror, which would be, you know, the system.And then lastly, Naomi, the net effect on men.And I'm sort of hearing it in the background.The algorithm supplies me with endless supplies of confirmation of this.So no idea if it's real or not, but it's flying around.which is, but I do actually hear it from men.They are running away from American women a little bit.They are saying, hey, what's in this for me?
16:27They could kill my babies.They can abort my babies.They get half of everything I own if I marry them.Marriage is only a 60% success rate.I mean, why am I bothering?And by the way, they hate me, they hate men.They tell me I'm terrible.They tell me I'm toxic.
16:41Any overtures are met with horror.What am I supposed to do?I'm just getting out of here.Right.Yeah, it's kind of understandable.I mean, there's been a war on love and marriage for 10 or 15 years very intensively.And, you know, I definitely think the bombarding.That's a new book.
17:02That's a new book.Yeah.And the bombarding is war on love and marriage.Against families and women with propaganda against, against families, against families.It doesn't help.But they have, you know, good points.I mean, I am horrified.One of the things I need to write is for all the young women I know, I want to write them a letter saying, you know, this is not feminism being what I see in movies these days, women being horrible young women, horrible, entitled brats and the guy just slavishly adoring them.
17:36Like, that's the dynamic.And it doesn't work that way.And you're quite right.I mean, and I do think that's why the Lindsay Clancy story.got so hyped, I think men are reasonably looking at these amplifications of the worst possiblewomen, right, and the most murderous instincts of women and thinking if they're not safe,and why should I, indeed. And that's at our peril. I mean, I think 30% of men aren't marriednow. I think I saw a statistic like shocking numbers of men are not getting married. But, you know,
18:14women...book. I'm telling we got to address it. We've got to address it.Lastly, you've got to take the sperm suppressant out of the baked goods.If you're going to, like, it's not just the women, you know, killing their babies.I know. Yes, I hear you. You're absolutely correct. I completely agree with that.That's the other part we should try to, you know, mind, you know, where this is all coming from biologically.That's your next book. But lastly, am I?Men don't know how to reverse that, right? I said, that's your next book. I look at, you.
18:44young men and they're visibly, we've talked about this, so much more feminine, not, you know,the young men we know and love in this extended community, but, you know, they're just, their testosteronelevels have dropped so dramatically. You also can't blame young women. You know, as Abigail Schreierwrote recently, there's no fooling the female libido. So there is definitely multifacetedattacks to make these genders not attractive to each other right now.more to be revealed you and II think that's what we have to get into and to keep a close eye onlastly am I seeing this correctly that the Overton window
19:23is opening a little bit around everything you have beensaying about the vaccines and the impact on womenand I'm not seeing any apologies of course except minebut I'm seeing people go oh Naomi's been saying this for the longest timeare you seeing that too?The algorithm sadly doesn't serve me that.That would cheer me up a lot.Oh, she's been saying that.
19:46But I am, of course, seeing, you know, Ron Johnson,Senator Ron Johnson got a lot of press about three or four weeks ago,disclosing Dr. Fauci's evil text to Dr. Walenski saying,oh, yeah, you know, these injections can cause cytokine storms in the first trimester,which can lead to a miscarriage.Oh, okay. And then more recently, I believe it was disclosed that another researcher told him what we and I have been warning people for years that the lipid nanoparticles traverse the placenta and weakened the placenta. And research has told Dr. Fauci, oh, the lipid nanoparticles weakened the placenta in 2021. And Dr. Fauci said, you know, thanks so much. And moved right on. Didn't.Yeah.I think that piece of data, I think that piece of data is what I'm seeing flying around.
20:44Right.That, oh, Naomi brought this up a long time ago and, yeah.But it's egregious.It is heartbreaking.It is egregious.It's worse than we thought.But then again, how could it be otherwise, given how crazy everything was?So listen, thank you.
21:00Thank you for being here.We got more to discuss as time goes on.And we appreciate you so much.Where do you want people to go to find you?Which book do you want them to get?Thank you.Well, Pfizer Papers is always important and oddly enough now more than ever as all this new revelationsurfaces.
21:19You can get that on Amazon.And over on Substack, my substack is outspoken and my new site is daily clout.So thank you.Thank you.Thank you.Thank you, you guys.Shall I sign off now?Or the wonderful Caleb Nationals.
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25:49Shelly Sprague, everybody knows Shelly from Celebrity Rehab.She worked, we work side by side for many years.She is a certified addiction specialist, counselor.She has worked with individuals and adults since 1997.She co-founded Hollywood Recovery Services with Bob Forrest and now directs,WeCare outpatient working with Neurosolution partners as a certified TMS technician.You can go to wecarenLA.com.Shelly, good to see you.
26:19Thank you, as always.Aidan Panette here.Hi, good to see you.How are you?Well, it's obviously a overdose situation and sad.And my heart goes out to the family and the friends and everyone who's lost.loved ones because of fentanyl you know my my husband's stepdaughter was also um a victim of fentanyloverdose and she passed away yes and we we have been touched personally over and over and it is
26:55incredible that we are not standing up to the manufacturers of these pressed pills and that we are notdoing more as a society to get fentanyl off of the streets and out of the hands of individuals.It is, it is, I got some data for you.And the DEA lab testing in 2023, the, there were lethal dose of fentanyl in 76% of adulterated street pills.Now it's down to 29%.4,000 monthly synthetic opioid deaths in this country, of which five,percent or adulterated pills. So we're getting there. We're working on it. But I think they'regoing after the people that have been giving her the pills. And I think that's how this really
27:46changes. It's not just what's coming to this country in fentanyl. It's the distributors have got to beheld accountable. I absolutely agree. And they need to be held accountable. And this caseparticularly is strange because we also don't know what else was in her system. Because one pressedfentanyl pill can cause overdose.But there is something about the Narcan not being able to reverse it.So I'm just wondering what maybe there was in her system as well.I'll tell you, I would guess of the usual benzodiazepines.That's the stuff you and I have been fighting forever.
28:29Or she was already dead dead, dead.And then the Narcan doesn't work.And they couldn't bring her back.I was too late.Yeah, and I suspect.Finish your thought, please.You suspect?I suspect that there were other substances on board.
28:44And I also suspect that she wasn't intending to overdose.No, right.That's absolutely true, for sure, as most or not.But there was a piece of her story that I'm trying to read through the weeds here,read the tea leaves, quite literally, that I would love your opinion on.So as I understand it, she went to a.She had a couple of short programs, relapse, relapse, relapse,and then went to a long-term program
29:09and seemed like looked and sounded sober after that.I mean, to my eye.And then, you know, I don't know how many months later,boyfriend problematic, gets involved.Now she's doing drugs and out she goes.And so when I see people with even moderate to certainly long-term surprise,The first eight to 24, 72 months, when I see that go out in somebody who seems to be doing well, I think of two things.I think of a bad relationship or the medical system.
29:44In my mind, those are the two things.In her case, maybe both because she had back pain or this or that.And so it could easily have been both.Of course, those are the things that take.Those are the things that disrupt the recovery process because they interrupt the,accountability and the responsibility of the individual for themselves andanytime you're bringing in somebody else or you're bringing in another look at yourcase like an MD they're gonna look at it differently they're there from a
30:16different school of thought they want to medicate addiction in general sorrythey want to give medicine to to help them instead of you know doing otherthings like therapy and long-termand staying out of abusive relationshipsis a really important keyfor self-esteem building.Well, not only that,as we always say, early in recovery,
30:41there's a reason there's a rulefor no new relationships in the first year.Of course, this was not a new one.So maybe they already were togetherand people were saying don't make major changesor who knows.But again, it looked like somethingthat came back into her life
30:56and that's problematic.But as we always tell peoplein early relationship,if they think they're finding a life preserver and they grab it and it's an anvil.Exactly. Yes. And it takes you off track, off course. The main important thing is to staycentered in coping with yourself, your own feelings, your own past, your own history,and working on yourself so that you can be strong within yourself and within your own support.these things are crucial for people to learn how to do in early sobriety.
31:31And if they get off track, it's very easy to relapse because of that.And so I say if anybody's out there who is struggling with addiction, abusive relationships,any kind of medical issue that they need help with, please, please, please, get help.That's my number one message.get help and never give up, please get help.Never give up, don't do it alone.And lastly, I'm a huge fan of transcranial magnetic stimulation.Tell me about we care in L.A.
32:08So I've been doing transcranial magnetic stimulation for since 2001.And what I'm seeing is that it works.I don't know that.I don't know.Of course.It was really something we started after the pandemic and we started very slowly and insurancecompanies are not on board with it, whatever, I don't know why.They have been very difficult to work with, but it works.
32:38It works without medication.It works without modulating over, you know, a period of time.It works in 35 days.I'm telling you it works.And if you have resistant treatment depression, it's.If you have addiction, if you have these things, transcranial magnetic stimulation definitelychanges the way that your brain is working and it lifts that heavy, heavy depression that I seepeople in.
33:06And I've had so much success with it.I'm very excited about it.And really no downside.That's what I like.I mean, things like ECT work too, but, you know, it's like a lot of risk there.So we're not going to have a seizure.That's so much,Okay, thank you so much.
33:26Look, I saw, I saw people get better with ECT,but I also saw Parkinsonism and dementias and all kinds of declinesand things afterwards.So it's, you know, these, those were desperate measures that you don't have to take anymorebecause you have this.Okay, well, great to see you, Shelly.Thank you so much.Good to see you too.
33:46Okay, we'll talk soon.Take care.Bye.You too.Bye.Okay, so let's get Shane.I love her.I know.
33:55She saves lives every day.I know.She is.So is that the same thing you would get if you're Lindsay Clancy?Well, it, you...The electroshock.Yeah, she would have gotten...Shock therapy is the treatment for recalcitrant...
34:12Addiction.No, no, no.Recalcitrant psychosis post-pricency.Yeah.No, not depression, but the psychosis.And ECT has very, very limited use these days.It's in desperate circumstances, you know, when things are really desperate.And real, you know, this is one of the things that was interesting in the defense,
34:34or not the defense, but the prosecution of Lindsay Clancy,she didn't have a typical psychosis.Typically, the pregnancy psychosis are wild, like wildly psychotic,dangerously psychotic, not just homicidal, but just, you know,running around, running into walls, chewing on carbon.I've seen such crazy stuff.And it doesn't get better sometimes, and that's when they use the ECT.And why would they ignore that if she was doing all that stuff?
34:59She wasn't doing that.That's the point.That's why they question whether she actually had psychosis.She had auditory hallucinations briefly when she suddenly committed this crime.And that's why people want, wait, that's not unusual.I mean, maybe.It's like schizophrenia, right?Well, it's not.
35:15I don't know.There's so many things that could be.No, there isn't.You do not want me on that jury.I suppose not. You'd be with that gentleman hanging out. You and he getting doxed.But that is the question.And they didn't do a great job of elucidating guilty legally, insane legally versus insane medically.These are two very different criteria.
35:37Shane Cashman, he has, let's see, where shall I go with Shane?New book, Good Villains.My Journey to the Front Lines of Fame, Controversy, and the War on Reality.You can go to Shane Cashman.com, also Shane Cashman on Instagram.and on X, S-H-A-N-E, Cashman.Shane, that's my blurb up there for the book.Welcome.How is the book doing?
36:04Doing very well.Thank you so much for that blurb.It meant a lot.Very grateful for it.People are really liking it.They're reading it, and that means a lot.So thank you.And, you know, it's this, it is a, can you imagine, when you first started doing commentary and you,
36:22with Tim Poole people, all these other things.Did you imagine things would be so cantanker?is it as they have become yes yes my my dad i watched tv with my dad when we had like seven channelsgrowing up and he would flip back and forth between all the news channels and he would tell meall these people on the news channels live in different dimensions they're all talking aboutallegedly the same thing but using different like emotions so i kind of uh was raised being likethe world is insane these people who are trying to tell you the truth are all insane uh so it's justIt just keeps getting we're
37:00now redefining words,redefining reality.We have social media.Reality's fractioninto a million pieces.It's true.Now, last time I talked to,we were actually in Europe at the time,
37:13I think, and we were talking aboutMK Ultra, and you said somethingkind of interesting, which isnow social media is theMK Ultra.It's doing stuff to us all the time.Yeah.Twitter, Facebook, all these places, it's a reality buffet.
37:32So whatever you want to be true, you can just go online and find it.Anyone says anything.And I believe you should be able to say anything.Anyone should say anything.But anything you want to be true, you can just go up and find it.And I think that's part of the plan with people.They know, like the people, the powers that be know that they can just hijack realityby plopping down certain people, Operation Mockingbird type.
37:56pretending to be influencers running around with a podcast, seeding bad information trying to takecontrol of your perception, trying to get you on board with medical segregation or war or somethinglike that.Well, speaking of that, we've now had the third calamity for humanity, maybe the fourth, is going todestroy the world.Now it's AI is going to destroy the world.And whenever I hear them using that kind of language, I'm like, I'm out, I'm out.I can't even listen to this anymore.
38:24but that was the name Coxman.That seemed like a carefully managedsciop that has been sort ofall the pieces have been sort of uncovered.Everyone can take a good look at what they were doing.Yeah.I don't like where AI is goingin terms of I don't trust the people who are building it.
38:45But the people who are building itare telling them both sides of their mouthwon't be destroyed.world. We might be summoning some lower case G. God. On the other hand, they're sayingit might be paradise. This will be great for everybody. So I don't really, I think the hype when itcomes to saying AI is going to kill everybody is really PR. I think it's trying to make all of usfear this thing that they've been building. I think it's a tool. It can be, you can use it in reallygreat ways. Unfortunately, a lot of things in society fall into the vortex of AI. Education,
39:22that's destroying farms in the abstract,but also in reality with data centers taking over farmland.But it's also, you know, warping the perception of peoplewhen it comes to post-reality.You know, going back to what I was just talking about,the reality buffet and the internet,people are creating things with AI that people don't know what's real anymore.So I don't fear it.
39:45And we have to remind yourselves that we should not fear it.Right, exactly.Yeah, I don't know what's real anymore on social media.sure. And when I use AI, I end up arguing with it an awful lot. Because if you don't know the topic,when I know the topic, if you don't know the topic, it can distort things very substantially.But there's one layer in this thing. You said you don't trust the people that are creatingthe AI. And I don't either. And I think it's important to raise awareness that most of theseAI companies, particularly the ones that are ahead in the race, are something like a trillion dollars
40:21behind on computing buildout.And that's why they need things to slow down.To be able to allow that build out so they can continue their lead.To me, it seems very sinister and self-serving.All of a sudden, the next day went, yep, good ideas.Slow down.We've been full bore until we just ran out of money.But, okay, slow down everybody.
40:44They can't fund it anymore.And that's why they need everybody to slow down.well thankfully their pal Elon found those magic money printing computers while he was in Doge at DC so you can just print out all the money he needs I think it's all just fake you know I think you know we've seen AI get better over the past few years but it's really just regurgitating everything we do and everything that they put out there you know it really does seem to me like an elaborate your campaign to get us to fear it to embrace it and to make us think that we have to outsource everything to itthey're going to get the money they need, no matter what, unfortunately, because every administration, for the last four administrations definitely have been inflating it.You know, whether you can go to Palantir in 2001 Patriot Act and all that stuff with Incutel and that CIA Venture Capital firm funding Palantir.But it's inflated way beyond that.And a lot of these tech guys who were really diabolical to a lot of us during lockdowns, censoring us off platforms, including the president, are now the ones being reported.You know, you're seeing Zuckerberg going to dinner at the White House, while our farmers can't afford furtables.
41:47fertilizer and it drives me insane.Yeah, I'm afraid that's true.It's so, for me, though, the frog has been so boiled, I think, to myself, well, at leastgood, he's coming around.He's coming around.At least we don't have to deal with that anymore.But it could easily just flip back the other way, right?Yeah.
42:08Yeah, I think that's how it goes these days.I just, I think these people are so deeply entrenched in our government.These people, I mean, you know, all these tech CEOs, maybe lizard people, who, who,are benefiting, who are really feeding, they're feeding off of us. Their LLMs are only asquote unquote smart as they are because they're eating everything we've ever put on the internet.So, you know, it's fascinating. And what you're going to see is people on the left and theright, despite all of their differences, start to coming together on this issue. You're alreadyseeing that announced today, you know, someone like Bernie Sanders and Steve Bannon talking about
42:44humanity versus AI. And you can disagree with both those people, agree with both those people,but you know they both make solid points when it comes to AI even even Bernie who Idon't agree with on a lot of things he's talking about what I like to call AIreparations where the AI companies owe the people something and I think that'sfair because we've built it they've literally been feeding off of us for years to maketheir war machines let's motivate people to read the book what what is in therethat people need well it is a crazy eventventure through America right after lockdowns, starting with my time with Kanye West, going to church
43:27while he's running for president out in L.A. with him. And then it kind of just opens up into all thesedifferent scenarios. Carrie Lake at the ballot trial when she's trying to win this fraudulent election.And it's insane what was going on in there. So it kind of just meanders through the whole country.I'm catching pedophiles. I'm looking at train wrecks in East Palestine, Ohio. And it's not all doom and gloom.there is also one of my favorite essays in the book is my time with the outstanding andmost talented riffraff aka Jody Highroller one of the greatest artists we have and it's like it'san amazing I think breath of fresh air in a book that has a lot of you know postcards from therevolving door of tragedy in America I love it postcards from the revolving door of tragedy
44:11in America that that's the tagline for the book it's it's the new uh umI shouldn't bring this up because I can't think of his name.Oh, crap.What was the guy that went across country to motorcycle with the sunglasses?Oh, Jack Carowack.Jack Carowack.Jack Carowac.It's the new Jack Carowac.
44:31Epic.There's some chatter here on my chat rooms about Epstein.Have you been writing about that lately?Oh, yeah.Epstein.So I was talking about Howard Ludnik recently and his cannibal look face.speak. Howard Lutnik, I don't agree with at all. I think he's a liar. And I think thatHoward Lutnik was as honest about his time with Jeffrey Epstein, that he was about his time
44:56with about 9-11. You know, a lot of really powerful people resign after the Epstein filescame out. And Howard Lutnik was not one of them. You know, I just think he's, I think he'ssomething diabolical about that man. But I've been talking about Epstein for a while now. I don't thinkwe should forget him. I don't think we should be memorand-hoeing him. I don't think we should also thinkof him as he's not the end-all be-all when it comes to everything that's happened. With theEpstein files, I think there's things above him, you know, names above him, these nameless, faceless,evil people above him. But I just want to remind people that this is a really insane and widespreadcrime that affected children.
45:41You know, we learned that the country of Turkey was investigating child trafficking aftertheir earthquake in the late 90s involving Epstein.And so beyond all that horrible stuff, we also need to remind ourselves that these people,these elites, these powerful people with all this money, are literally in the Epsteinfiles talking about how we can manufacture wars, how we can extract wealth from dyingnations. They're talking about robot mosquitoes. They're talking about human experimentation onZoro Ranch. And I just don't think we should move on. There's no Iran war or UFO files that'sgoing to make me forget how insane and depraved Epstein was and all of his friends on both sides
46:25of the political aisle. And I think people really don't appreciate how much child traffickinghas gone on. Into his dead.Ross, yeah, at least we're kind of aware of it talking about it.I think it was on during 70s, 80s, 90s, and he was right there with it.Yeah, yeah, it's the internet unfortunately has only made it worse.And, you know, when I was in Ohio for a portion of this book, we're helping to catch pedophiles who are using Roblox and Facebook to talk to minors who want to do such explicit things to them.may be sick.I was having weird daydreams about violence,
47:13and I don't like violence,but seeing these demons in person makes you sick.And we could have gone 48 hours without stopping,because we just keep catching.You know,I was working with Alex Rosen of predator poachers,and we just had all of their information,everything they said of these,
47:31what they thought were 12-year-old,11-year-old girls,after another. And they're in all types of society. It was a fireman. It was a firearms instructor.It was a dude who owns a 7-11. And, you know, all it was a guy with a Trump flag. It was a guy whowas a liberal. It was everything. And it's not to, I don't want to. Were you shocked?I know, unfortunately, because I know how widespread evil is. You know, I've been reading aboutEpstein for years. It is shocking when you see them in person. You know, when you see them, and you'reactually catching them when they're about to walk towards a little, a little child, and they're
48:07thinking that they're going to go to an empty home with this kid. And you're like, oh my gosh.And you're just shocked. I mean, that's when I first started using the word demon in, like,in an actual literal sense, you know, like really being like, I am looking at the face of a demonright now. Their faces change, you know? I joke about lizard people, sort of, but like,their face, something is wrong with their face. And when they realize they're trapped,they start to have a new, like you can see through the glaze in their eyes.And in particular, one guy actually defecated himself right in front of uswhen he knew he wasn't getting out of this.
48:42And it was like watching an animal trapped in a trap in the woods.It was unbelievable.So I was shocked just to be that close to it.But unfortunately, you know, I've heard too many stories from people I love growing upand also just reading about it for too many years that this is what happens.and it happens in every institution up and down, terrible.How is your eternal soul, my friend?Are you okay?
49:08I have faith.I have faith and I have hope in people, despite all the darkness.I have to remind myself, I have hope.I have kids and I don't want to scare them out of the future.We have to remind ourselves that this is an ancient evil.This has always been happening.It's unfortunate that it's human nature.But I remind myself of beauty and we took a beautiful road trip this week up to Vermont.
49:30the mountains are we in a are we in a storm of this stuff is that what what has gone lately or wei mean i think i think it's been worse i think it's been worse in different ways but i have tounfortunately remind myself that as modern as we are or as barbaric as we've always been andwe've done human sacrifice and child sacrifice you know from the beginning uh and we do it now indifferent ways just have shiny buildings and new clothes and all this stuff so uh i think the good thing ispeople are more aware of it and a lot of people are really upset and some one of my favorite genresof person is the angry mom because the angry mom actually gets stuff done sometimes you know it doesn'thave to be politics sometimes you know we saw the angry mom in virginia when they voted out
50:15ralph northam who was a psychopath uh unfortunately they didn't last very long but angry momswere also behind maha and you know there's something when you see your kids interacting with so muchevil you have to do something about it and you're hoping you know politics might help youI think a lot of people unfortunately also realize that politics won't do much.But, you know, when you have kids and you care deeply and you're observant and you see what's going on in the world, you're going to do something about it as best you can, whether it's trying to do something on a national level, but at least doing something locally.You're right.I mean, there's the angry moms, we need to organize them and keep them, you know, all rowing in the right direction.Shane, always great to see you.
50:55Thank you for sharing with us.And let's get the book, everybody.We have to talk more about lizard people next time.More about lizard people.Perfect.We'll do a whole 30 minutes on the Clinton.Right.Thank you.
51:08They exist.They're out there.You know what, Susie?You can do the interview.So lizard people.Ask any second.I don't know where she's going with that, but maybe we'll have her on the mic at the same time.All right?
51:22Perfect.I can't wait.Good to see you.Thank you.Bye.Bye.Take care.Thank you.
51:27Okay, we're going to talk about health.Stay with us.This is going to be really interesting.Trevor Kruder is here.He is the go-to expert in peptides.He has extensive experience.He is a trusted source and researcher with clear information, compliance guidance,over a decade of hands-on experience.
51:46He has done deep dive into the clinical research.He knows what's going at the FDA.And it's a very confusing landscape.I'm confused by it.So I'm delighted that he's here to discuss this with us.So take a quick break.I'll be back with Trevor.Stay with us.
52:02This is going to be really interesting.Dr. Drew here.Fatty 15 was discovered working with the Navy's fleet of dolphins.A brilliant veterinary epidemiologist realized that dolphins deficient in this odd chain fatty acid were helped by replacing that fatty acid.They didn't get the conditions.Turns out humans have similar deficiencies.It supports healthy glucose metabolism.It gets into the cell membrane and decreases the pool of available oxidizable species that can lead to ferroposis.
52:36So it is considered the longevity nutrient.If you'd like yours, go to doctor.com slash fatty 15.I don't see the profession doing anything to really build trust beside you.Happy to be on here.Thank you for having me.You and I see the world the same way.What is it like for you to be the, the,most chiseled and best-looking man in media, giving us the information we need.
53:01Thank you for the truth.My pleasure.We are going to take your calls at 8333-D-R-D-R-E-W.Trevor Kruder is here with me in studio.Is it alpha-biomedelabs.com?Is that correct?Or bio-industries?So industries is the easiest one that will have.
53:19Okay.Okay. So it's alpha-biomedid Industries.com.Okay, excellent.So talk to us.I mean, you know, I want to spendreally the time necessary tounpack this topicbecause everybody's got questions about it.
53:34Everybody's interested in it.Your journey from the beginning.Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people that were in it,let's call it,is that early now?That is, apparently.Yeah.Yeah.
53:47Yeah.Yes.Oh, hold on.Uh-oh.There we on now?There you're on.I'm busy with the camera.All right, go ahead.
53:58So I'm giving Trevor a chance to talk about his journey.Oh, and now Susan's phone's talking about me, apparently.Three years ago, four years ago.Yeah, I mean, this is a thing.I remember maybe about three, four years ago,I was on the phone calling doctor after doctor after doctorand going, yeah, have you heard of peptides?And every single one of them told me I was crazy.
54:17They'd never heard of it or you're crazy to get into it.They'd never heard of it.They're like, there's no way this is going to work.I heard about this.It became a thing in this town in 2020, I'd say.So that's six years ago.Yeah.A bunch of comedians were on peptide.
54:33There was some guy distributing them here.And it was a thing.Well, I mean, you obviously know more people in this area than anybody.You've been the circuit and you're kind of the go-to guy for expertise.So that would make sense that you would know who's using it when.But, I mean, it was also a, no one wanted to talk about using it.I mean, growth hormone in the 90s, 2000s, everyone was like, no, I don't use growth hormone.And then when you, the GLP's first started, it was one of those like, hey, are you taking a GLP?
54:59You lost like 50 pounds in three months.And they're like, no, I'm not taking that.What are you talking about?You know, I didn't do that.But to be fair, people do the same thing with steroids to this day.Correct.But steroids are still illegal.And those do have a little bit more of a repercussion down the road.
55:12Yeah, I guess it's interesting.Right.And I throw non-physiological testosterone into that camp.There's a lot of dudes taking too much testosterone.I might be in that.I'm at 400 milligrams a week, but my numbers are still right around 1,500, which I don't find...It's not a bit. It's above 1,200. I mean...Yeah, you know, I'm a little bit bigger.
55:32Well, but here, but that's why I don't take the biopor plus because it has tribulous and it really increases your testosterone.I have prostate cancer.Yeah, you don't want to mess with that.And so, and I've had to have radiation.I mean, it has come, it came back after 10 years.And so I don't want to even deal with the posture.I'd love to take testosterone.Yeah.
55:52And I would take...I take the biolitis.Biopropiom because it doesn't have the tribunus.But I would love to take all this stuff.Yeah, I mean, because there's no reason not to in this day and age if you do it properly andcarefully.Well, I mean, there's not really a ton of peptides to mess with your testosterone.They're everywhere else in the body.
56:08I mean, there are a few that directly go that direction.But I'd say 95% of the products that are on the market out there have nothing to do withtestosterone.It's mostly repair mechanisms, brain, growth hormone, those kind of levels.So it's sort of angiogenesis.Antinflammatory. Antiflamatory.Yeah.And then growth hormone stuff.
56:31Yeah, I mean, those are the ones outside the GLP range.Everybody has the GLPs.That's the biggest one.And I mean, it really got started when Kim Kardashian goes,oh, I lost 30 pounds on Ozembic.And everyone goes, what's Ozambic?Right?And they go, oh, it's a high to diabetes drug?
56:45Yeah.How'd that make or lose weight?I'm sitting there going, oh, my God, I make that product.Yeah.How do you think about GLP ones?You know, it's, okay, it is God.gift to this earth that we have cured obesity, especially with the new one that Eli Lilly's puttingout, red of Trutide. That, I mean, don't get me wrong. We're going to have a fourth agonis, a fifth
57:02agon. Why, Rhetor Trutide? Why, what do you like that one? Well, because the glucagon piece of itreally helps balance it out. So when you look at the first ones, and let's skip Lyrrugutide,which technically was the first, it was a daily injectable version. Yeah. Let's go withCmoglutide or Ozembek. Well, Govi. That made people so nauseous. People were puking for three,four days. They talked about the Zambic butt and face because they're dropping so much weight.It was muscle included. In fact, a lot of people were losing more muscle than fat,which is the rebound effect of, as we know, is a nightmare.Trying to get the muscle back on without all the fat coming back first.
57:34It's really, really hard.It's really hard. So that was a, it was a, especially as your age.Oh my God. Yeah. The older you are, the worst that is for you.Yeah. But then Tersepetide came out, which was Zep bound, you know, those ones.And you mixed in GIP. And GIP helped fill the stomach with more.acid and slow down the actual intestines to make you feel fuller legitimately longer, right?And we backed down the gLP portion. So then you didn't have people puking all the time and youwere able to just, oh, I just feel fuller. So you wouldn't eat as much. That was a little bit better.
58:06The problem with it is, is you just get extremely tired. You are depleting sugar out of the body,the glucose levels. You are not eating what you should be. It's not about not eating. It's abouteating proportionally, right?And it still cut that off, and then people were still dropping too much weight.And, you know, people were energized to go hit the gym or do something active.Right.Well, the glucagon, on the third agonist, when you do drop to that level, your liverstarts converting and performing its duty, which it starts making sugar, natural sugars.
58:35Keeping the brain fog gone, keeping your energy levels up.And you can run really small doses.It doesn't shut down your appetite.So you just kind of eat less throughout the day.while having more energy.And when you say small doses, what are you talking about?Yeah, I mean, so when you go out, I mean, I don't know how much you eat,but, you know, if I go out to in and out and I'm not on anything,
58:54and I don't take JLPs, but I have tested everything, you know,I would get two double doubles, a fry, a milkshake,probably still be hungry afterwards,but I know that's probably the limit I should eat in that meal.If you were to take, like, let's see your second week of Red or True Tide,you're going to get through maybe one of those burgers,half of the fries, not finished the shake,and you're going to be completely good with how you feel.
59:16How about the CNS effects?Central nervous system?You know, I wouldn't want to talk to those,but I mean, I don't think that you're going to,they're so short acting in and out,and they're not focused on those.I mean, I guess if you were doing the semaglutate,the high GLP's, which focus mainly on the brain,
59:31there could be some dial down down the road.I mean, they are talking about the eye issues.Well, that's a little different,but they really are worried that there's an,because it's hitting drive,drive systems. There's a lot in those systems that we rely on to make meaning in life, frankly.Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, I'm a big proponent. People started using a lot of these,instead of them being a tool for the problems that real people have on daily basis,
59:59you see the person that has done every diet, they've, you know, they've walked on treadmills,and they're 200 pounds overweight, and nothing seems to work. They got dealt a bad set ofcards. Their genetics just aren't playing well with reality in life. And then you got thehouse mom that just wants to be able to go out and drink more martinis at her lunch party.So like, oh, cool.If I do this, I won't put all the weight on from drinking seven martinis at lunch.That's not the candidate for these products.And it goes along for most peptides.
01:00:27You know, people all the time, they say, oh, man, the BPC 157 is the most popular peptideoutside of a GLP.Yeah.And it's just like, oh, that's like your first end.Like, oh, yeah, I'm on BPC.I'm like, oh, are you hurt?No?I just, you know, everybody talks about BPC 157, so I thought I would take it.
01:00:45Well, do you have gut issues?No, my gut's good.Well, then why are you taking it?Like, I don't go to the store and take ibuprofen every day just in case I get a headache.What are the downside of some of these types?Well, other than the gilp ones, I think people are kind of aware of that.Yeah, I mean, okay, so, you know, obviously.Go through, like, the top four most popular.
01:01:03All right.You mentioned BPC-157.Yeah, so the most popular is BPC-157.Reality-wise, it's probably the safest of the bunch.If you look through all the actual, there's not a whole lot of human trial work that's done.I know, that's mostly animals.Why can't you do oral with BPC 157?You can, but it stays there.
01:01:20It derived from the gut originally, and if you take it out, it can get around the body.However, it stays in the gut for you naturally.So if you take it orally, it just kind of goes right back to where it was and stays there.Does it do anything to the growth factors there?No, no, no, no.Age genesis?No, it just stays with what it does in that area.But if you take it and inject it outside,
01:01:41if you do have something with a rotator cuff or arthritisor you're repairing like, you know, I broke my neck,and it's getting that repaired.Or how I got into it 12, 13 years agoas I ripped my whole bicep off the bone.There was obviously a few fibers left.They wanted to rip the other side off and anchor it,have this massive, you know, half-bicep left over.
01:02:02I did physical therapy, BPC, TB 500,actually TB4, the full chain, and growth hormone in six weeks later, the damn thing grew back.And the surgeon was like, that's impossible.So let's talk about the landscape of accessing these things.You said you had growth hormone.Would you get the growth hormone to do that?Well, I mean, I don't want to throw anybody's name out, but he was the guy selling to all the movie stars.Yeah.
01:02:24I mean, this is the question.I mean, so my just general, it's not so much the beneficial effects of these substances that I worry about it.It's the doubt, the fact that we have very little negative, very little clinical trials that tell us they're safe.Lots of anecdotal experience.Yes.But they have very little formal stuff out there.And then we have a regulatory system that's sort of unclear in terms of how to navigate it.Yeah.
01:02:49So what should people be thinking about these products?Well, the big thing is, yes, right now you have this status of America where you have a new form of government that's moving in a thing.these are great, we need to do more.And then you have the FDA that's been there for so long saying,we need all these metrics if we were going to say yes to anything.Yeah.But you can't patent most of this stuff because they're naturally forming.You already make them all.
01:03:16So you're talking about it's too expensive to put something to trial.So there's got to be a bridge in between that allows us to create trial workwithout having to, let's say, self-funded through like a company, right?like an Eli Lilly or a Pfizer or whomever.Because why are you going to spend $50 million on something that everybody can take and use for themselves?Well, I mean, why wouldn't there are generic companies out there that make their living doing generic drugs?Correct, but none of these are drugs.But I mean, why wouldn't they get into this business?
01:03:50Why wouldn't they want to?Yeah, yeah.So what we're trying to do is, you know, we work with the FDA, Maha, and what we're trying to do is, okay, hey, we have 28,000 doctors to.We have 503A.We do compounding.We do 503B, which is, you know, short listed items.We do drug manufacturing.You tell me who we is.
01:04:08My company, off my own industries.We have multiple 503Bs.We have 5503As.We have four drug manufacturing sites.And we're building more for this industry that is blossoming.But, you know, we sit there and go, okay, we have 28,000 doctors in our network.And we have education platforms.I mean, I have a platform that has 100,000 pages on peptides.
01:04:30And it's not written by man, it's written by AI, which you were talking about earlier,but it doesn't have a bias.It basically pulls all the data that it can find from Russia, from the University of Washington,from Harvard, whoever did these things.And it brings it all together in a non-biased state.It tells you everything, you know, toxicology reporting.Could anybody access this?Yeah, it's called the Peptide University.
01:04:52The Peptide University.Yeah.And, you know, you can go on and it's just free information on everything you would need to know about peptides.So when you go to Bro Science Guy's website and he's got six pages on full of statin,which is a myo-satin inhibitor that are becoming really popular, that's going to be the next phase of the GLP world, one of them at least.How's it were?So instead of working through cutting out glucose, stopping the cravings, that whole dynamic of GLPs,what it doesn't said is it goes in and shuts down your myelstatin receptor and it allows your body to grow more muscle naturally and speed up your insulin sensitivity.
01:05:29that's interesting.Yeah, so it's more drive for someone that's athletic built or going.So instead of cutting food out, you can eat more and it's just better for you.Use better.Yeah, and it's also looked to kind of eliminate hopefully the steroid use of it because it works a lot.It's very anabolic.Yeah, I have to sort of tell you my bias on steroid and growth hormone even is there's a lot of crossover with steroids and stimulant abuse.Oh, yeah.
01:05:53Yeah.And the patients I've treated that come clean about their stimulants and get.into the program and stuff, refuse to stop the steroids or even cop to the fact that they're usingthem. And those guys die. They die of all kinds of things, but they don't live long.Well, I mean, you're talking about a chemical-based product that allows the body to go throughextreme changes in the shortest amount of times. And the body does not want it either. I mean,your miles down receptor literally, that's always been the swing, because I've dabbled insteroids when it back in the day and through the years. You know, you go to put
01:06:2930 pounds on and it comes off just as fast because your brain is going, what is this weight?It is not supposed to be here.Get off of me.You can't keep it on if you're life dependent on.So what do you do?Take more steroids.Right.And then you're just chasing your tail over and over.
01:06:42They use some growth hormone to try to keep it on.Yeah, which will help keep it on longer.But no matter what, it's always going to want to come off.So, you know, it's this repetitive cycle you can't get out of.And with body dysmorphia in this.That's what it is, really, we get right down to it.My fiancee is pregnant.And she looks in the mirror and she's like, I'm fat.
01:07:02I'm like, of course you're fat.I hope so.Yeah, that's the whole point.You're growing.Hey, the baby's overweight for this time.But she's, you know, she had a six-pack 21 weeks ago.It's hard.You know what I mean?
01:07:13Yeah.So it's hard.And she looks absolutely gorgeous.I tell her that every single day.But no matter what, that is a lot of society.And the Instagrams and the Facebooks ain't helping anybody in this.You know, the brain is changing from all this information.Somebody's asking again what myostatin is.
01:07:30Is myostatin naturally occurring?Yeah, it's in the body.It's part of the sort of the balance of muscle and fat.Yeah, so it basically says, hey, here's your governor for your body.Everybody has one.So there are people that you see that are much larger in life and can grow muscle tissue.Their myosatin receptor has a different limit.So go to the peptide university to get the science information.
01:07:52What if people are sort of interested in this?Who should be thinking about this?I mean, there's so many benefits.I got into it because of the brain.How did you get involved in the brain?Yeah, so early on when I was in it, there was no GLP's yet.There was no such thing as APIs.We were making everything.
01:08:10So we were taking amino acids and using peptide synthesizers and combining these molecules togetherto create peptides or polypeptides or proteins at a larger state, right?And, you know, what I actually went down the journey of, it was injury first.And then from there, I was dealing with epilepsy.I had a rare form of where I had like a euphoric epilepsy.Instead of seizing, I would get deja vu.Everything would focus and start sweating.I'd vomit and I'd be wiped for 30 minutes to an hour.
01:08:38And it started with one time and twice a year.And then all of a sudden, 15 years later, these things are happening two to three times a day.You know, I went to see Dr. Millett.And he's the head of USC.He runs Hogue Hospital.And he looked at me and goes, I know.what's wrong with you. And I'm like, what? He's like, you have epilepsy. I've never had a seizure.He goes, no, there's many forms of it. So I went down this. I didn't want to be hooked on, you know,
01:09:04Kepra and all these other products that I was, these drugs on them. They didn't make me feel well.And I started researching. I was watching like Russian university, like they were talking to Russianand I thought it was converted into English about peptides in the brain with, you know, CMAX,salank, oxytocin, P-21, dihex, all these different products.So I went down the road of, well, maybe I just need to help rebuild some parts of my brain that have been damaged from the seven concussions I have that I know of.You know, I played hockey.And I started using these.And then after about three, four years, I never had a seizure, even though, you know, obviously I was taking my medication.
01:09:42But I started like, well, what if I start weaning off?And I'm not suggesting this for anybody.You know, and I haven't been on an epileptic medication for four or five years now, and I haven't a single seizure.Now, I'm not saying that I fixed it, but maybe I did.did. That was my goal originally. It wasn't because my whole family's diet of Alzheimer's dementia.So we have a product that we call, it's called Clotho. It's been studied for over 30 years.There's books, no joke, this big in the smallest text you could freaking find on earth.And it's this wonder protein that for longevity, I mean, it just shows that it can heal the entire body.
01:10:19So I went, you know, that that road is made in the brain and the kidneys. So we actually have it in trial right now for chronic kidney failure.kidney disease and we're hoping it's too big to pass the blood brain barrier right we're hoping there'ssome systemic effect that it helps with the brain as well but if not then we'll try and figure out overtime what is the peptide version not the protein that can get through the brain barrier to helpproduce more in the brain i went down a rabbit hole with cloth though a couple of times and aren't therea couple of related molecules MS 66 or something oh there's so many i mean it's it's the thethe golden goose for the longevity group of the world.In fact, I ended up sort of ending my dissension into the soup of all this material thinking,
01:11:05why isn't this more available to people?What's very hard to make, one.Number two, if you do figure it out, we were actually able to patent or get patentingon the delivery method, which does work for us.And we're not trying to do that because we want to charge, you know, $20,000 a month for any ofIt's going to be very affordable because it's about getting it to people and helping.But, you know, the process that we're trying to do, it's a very small amount you need.We're talking about 10 micrograms every two weeks for it to work.
01:11:36I mean, that's nothing.And the problem is, is if too much hits the system, it actually has a reverse effect where it's damaging the kidneys instead of helping the kidneys.This is the problem with all chemicals in the body.Correct.If you don't understand the toxicity of them, you can cause more problems.And that's what I worry about with peptides generally because we don't have those studies that really give you the comfort.Like, I would much more comfortable taking a peptide and recommending a peptide for that reason.Because no one wants to hurt the person.
01:12:04Well, you just can't, you can't.As a provider, you have to do no harm.Correct.You can hurt yourself.You can't hurt anybody else.But, okay, let me ask you this, because you're obviously one of the most intelligent people in this, all these aspects, is would you consider a drug or a peptide more dangerous?It's all dangerous.It's all, but which one would you put more?
01:12:26I mean, it depends on the drug.It depends on the data that's there.It depends on the circumstance.And by the way, there's times when very dangerous drugs are worth the risk.For sure.Because they're life-saving.And so it gets very muddy.It just requires so much judgment.
01:12:43Every little situation has to be assessed on its own merit.Okay.Let me, okay, let's rephrase it.Yeah.So my mom, she was dying of cancer.And they booted her out of the hospital.They gave her red death of the chemo.They gave her another form of chemo.
01:12:58Did her breast cancer?Yeah, she had metastasized breast cancer.And literally like, it's going to kill you.It's near your brain.It's over.And they threw her on these drugs and literally almost killed her.How lover was this?About four years ago.
01:13:09So they boot her out of the hospital.They say, you got less than four months to live good luck.And they gave me back my mother at 80, like just over 80 pounds with a broken elbow.she had a torn rotator cuff.I mean, damaged goods, for sure.And I put her on TA1 Complex, which works on your immune system, curcumin, which comes from, oh, my God, why am I blanking on it?The base of all Indian foods.That's good for you.
01:13:39Not cumin.Not cumin.The curry, yeah.It's not curry.It's, yeah.Tumoric.Thank you.Tumoric.
01:13:47Yes.The base of turmeric.that actually does the anti-inflammatory and the cancer.I put her on all these different productsand was able to get her immune system good enoughthat we did an NK therapy,not another proved product,and I wiped out all eight tumors in less than three weeks.
01:14:02So they told me she was going to die.I finally got her immune system back.I got blood out of her.I mean, I would say that that's a much more,and I'm not saying this is going to work for everybody,but that's a much safer product than a chemo drug would be.But a chemo drug is absolutely necessary.I agree as well.
01:14:15There's times for everything,and there's good drugs,and there's drugs that I don't think should be out there.So predicting the future how this is going to go,how is the average person going to understand this landscape,get access to it?Again, it's still confusing.It's going to be confusing for longer than you think.
01:14:35Because now we had the PCAC meetings about a month and a half ago.At the FDA.At the FDA.But the FDA, before those meetings started, they said, no, this is not happening.Yeah.Right? Because what they want to see is the same thing you're talking about, which I could not agree more and go back to the trials. The trials. If I have 28,000 doctors and I got the government on our side, say, hey, I got 28,000 doctors that are willing to be part of this trial for free. We can get millions of people into this thing very easily and do it the right way there.It takes a little more than that to do it. But it does bring up an interesting question, which is why do we have to have gold standard, you know, double-blind.placebo control, crossover, so all the step.
01:15:17There might be other ways to sort of assess these things that doesn't cost so much,isn't so difficult, and still gets these things sort of, at least where people are comfortable,that there's no big risk associated with them.Yeah, and let's look at, like, let's look at actually the safety study first, right?Before you ever go to give anybody a drug, you've run PK studies and all this stuffto make sure drugs aren't going to kill somebody.Like, cool, we think this is going to work.Ops, we killed somebody, right?
01:15:41You don't want that.I mean, we have assessed through animal models and all these things.BDC-157, they could not find a toxic range to the point where they're filling the lab rat up with more liquid BPC than there was blood.And it wasn't killing the darn thing.Right.So we can assume that's rather safe.That's when I think we should be able to go to some of these other, you know, more approachable studies that are affordable.The other thing is you're not, we have to think about it differently.
01:16:12You're not dealing with a life-threatening illness typically, at least setting.I mean, maybe one day we will be able to use these things for that.But now you're just trying to, it's wellness, enhancement.It's wellness and preventative medicine, in my opinion.I mean, the Tesla fencing is an oral.It's not a peptide.But, you know, they're looking at that in Europe right now for people preventing Parkinson's, the dopamine issues.Right.
01:16:35So like for me, I think we finally have a state of a lot of people with the internet and everything.There are benefits to AI.Right.That people are learning a lot through genetics.oh my God, I have this in my genes.I should probably prevent this.I need to avoid this kind of eating.I need to make sure exercise.
01:16:51I need to take these things to, you know,because I don't want to develop Alzheimer's or Parkinson's.And I think if we can create enough of these safer moleculesand get them through these studies,and I'm not talking about, I mean, I'd love to have thousands of them,but let's talk about maybe 20 to 30 that we can really focus on,that we do have data going 60 years back, not here, but in other countries.And it really will come under the heading of supplement at that point, right?
01:17:14Correct. And I think that's where we need to go.And I think the needle part is what really kind of throws a lot of it into the drug.I mean, creatine is not an FDA-proof product.Vitamin D isn't a, I mean, let's be honest.If we weren't taking a needle at home and injecting these.So I'm wondering, that's why I asked about the KBPC-157 of taking orally.If you get them orally, it's going to be less resistance, I would think.Correct.
01:17:36And we are working on all of them.There's a product, it's an absorption product called SNED technology.It's kind of like, you know, you have liposol.You've all these different versions of how to get things across, you know, through other parts, membranes of the body.What the big one is is like, why can't we take these?Well, your body, your stomach acid kills them.And then if you, even your, your, the saliva in your mouth starts killing these things, a lot of the cases.Then let's say you do get it through and you get it into the intestine, you can get absorbed.
01:18:02The first pass the liver kills it.A lot of these cases.So, you know, we worked on this thing called a SNED and we're going through trial work with it.But what we're seeing is about 25 times more bioavailable because it allows it to get through the stomach into the intestine and getinto the lymphatic system instead, and then the liver doesn't kill it. That might be a possibilityfor the future. So do you have, as we sit here now, and Caleb, you were asking the question,how do you get access to these things? Do you have a specific question about this?No, I just, I hear, I've been hearing constantly about peptides, but no one really guides on where
01:18:34do you get them? Is this something that's a prescription? Is this something that's over the counter?Is it, do you have to go to a special type of doctor or a specialist who can figure out whichones you need. How does the person who's not familiar with it get involved? Yeah, and that's theone. I don't want to confuse more. So I'll try and say this as easy as possible. The first thing youshould always do is you should find a doctor that does specialize these. There's a lot of them now.You're more than welcome to send a message to me. I can get you a list of doctors I know we workwith. The, you know, there are a lot of compounding pharmacies because of the PCAC meetingsand that, hey, these products are going to be hopefully approved over time because, you know, there's
01:19:12just things we got to do first with safety studies and so forth. But there are compoundingforms or represcribing with doctors in certain states. Other states say no. So it really is whereyou are, has a big piece of if you can get them. And then the way that most people, I hate to say it,but 90% of the people probably in this country are just ordering them online at some site,it's like you're flipping a coin. I'd say the coin is actually more like, you know,it's got 50 sides. One out of those 50 sides is probably a legitimate site that does.everything correctly and the other 49 are probably Chinese.Oh my God.
01:19:46Yeah.And the government's really trying to cut that back.That's why I'm asking because it's, I do hear, I've been hearing so much about peptides,but I don't even know where to begin and I don't want to go on the internet where there'swhat you're saying.It's exactly true.A lot of these look pretty shady.That's what, let's sort of think about it this way.
01:20:04Do you have sort of favorite supplements that an average person for wellness ought to be thinkingabout?and then next layer,if they're thinking about it going a little further,what peptides should they think about it?Yeah, I mean, it depends on what you're going for,but I mean, vitamin D is a huge one for me.Vitamin C, urolithin A is a new one.
01:20:24I know, I always say that one wrong, but...That's looking pretty interesting.I'm also, glutathione is important,and you can only get it in if you take inastyl cystin and glycine,so do that.Yep, and well, the same thing.If you are taking vitamin D and you're not seeing,your levels increased.
01:20:42Look at vitamin K, folate, folic acid.I mean, there's all these different things that the body is so complex.Yes.You think that, oh, I have this one problem.No, there could be four or five.You know, oh, my shoulder hurts.It could be your rib cage.Well, but that is the thing that people don't understand.
01:20:59Biology is, I always tell people it's like trying to predict the behavior of a cloud.It's like you move it, the wind blows over here and go all over the place.You can, you is very, and everybody's genetics are different.and everybody responds these things.Correct.Yet the fundamentals are kind of the same.Yeah.Yeah, I mean, so there's a test out there.
01:21:17It's called Age Code.And it's probably the most large genetic-based tests you can take.It's also very expensive.So it is not affordable for a lot.But if you can afford it, it gets down to a cellular level on over 800 or 900 genetic markers.But what it does is at the very end of this 150-page report that no one on Earth wants to try and read through.and even AI gets confused by trying to figure it out.You get to the end and you can see all your drinks,
01:21:43you know, either zero, one, or a two.Two means you are going to have this problem some point in your lifeor you have this marker.One is you got to watch it.So take a look at what's going to give you the pros or the cons of getting it.And zero means you're completely safe, right?So when you really get into that,I was wondering the same thing.
01:21:59So vitamin D, it doesn't matter.I have this weird genetic thing where I produce massive amounts of YLDL.So I thought I had a blockage in my heart.and turns out I'm perfectly fine, even though it's 100 times higher than it should be.But like the one, there's all these things like, your vitamin D is a toilet.You don't go out.I'm like, no, I'm tan.I take vitamin D every day.
01:22:18Nothing would work.I'm doing injections of vitamin D.And that's when you, I finally took this genetic test.And I followed this, the markers.And it gets down to, you know, like, you've got to go down to like certain types of amino structures,omega fatty acids.And folate is what I need to make sure I get first before the vitamin T, D will even.absorb into my system.
01:22:38That makes sense.But once I get that fixed, it now works.I mean, that's ways to really look at it.But from there, if you talk about this, I always say, I go, what's the most important thingsin your life?And if you are going to start with two, three max?Peptides.You don't know what's going to work or you don't know what's doing what.
01:22:57I hear these stories when a lot of people reach out to me.And it's a lot more real life problems.I'm talking about people with genetic disorders and very often.odd things with skin issues, eye issues, you name it.And they're like, yeah, I took these 20 peptides.And I don't know, and I can't figure out why it didn't work.And I go, do you take them separately?No?
01:23:18And like, do you have any side effects?Yeah, you know, it's hospitalized.Oh, my.And I go, yeah, you got to start one because they don't understand that, you know, mixingall this stuff together.And now that you can't.You take, with medication, you start one at a time.So you don't.
01:23:34Yes, because they interact.And the adverse events.know what you're dealing with. I can't have beta blockers. Who would have thought that? They give methat one laying on a table and I have my heart syrup stops, right? So, you know, imagine if I justmix beta blockers with nine other things or something. They're saying they go, which one kill them?Oh, they'd have no idea. Exactly. So again, I'm still a little confused. So somebody who'sinterested in this for wellness, right? That'd be the first person to sort of think about it. Are we,are we covering the landscape?
01:23:59It's telehealth. Yeah, there's some telehealth companies out there that will help you with peptides or theones that are on the legal side.What does that mean?Like the ones that are approved.There are already some that are out there.Testimerellin, you know, you can get HGH, which is a peptide, insulin, a peptide,GLP's.Those are all approved peptides if you have actual issues, right?
01:24:21I'm not going to get insulin or a diabetic.But there are a number there.And then a lot of the new ones, which is like KPV, Ippermerellin, these new ones thathave epithelon, you're talking about sarkeidium rhythms, sleep, telomere health, allof pieces. There are definitely telehealth companies that are you starting to do them now.And then you also have, there's probably, I'd say, 60 to 70,000 doctors, actual doctors, notMDs, physicians. Yes, real doctors that practice medicine on a daily best, ER doctors, to you nameit, that are not the, oh, I have a clinic and you know, you might have a nurse or a PA, but there's no
01:24:58doctor on the wall. You're talking about real doctors that are heavily invested into this.Are they forming any professional societies or anything?Yeah.The American Peptide Association is a really good one.A lot belong to them.There's another one for injectables.There's ones for vitamins.There's the Compounders Association.
01:25:19These are all different ones.But the American Peptide Association is probably the best one to go to because it is focused on peptides.And they have a lot of really good doctors that are heavily, like I said, heavily investedinto this space.They're trying to do the right thing.I know that you probably met with Brigham Bueller.I know I think you're with him.He's very, very on the forefront of this.
01:25:37He's heavy in Maha.He is, you know, he runs waste swells.You know, there are a lot of really smart and good peoplethat are trying to do a good thing.It is the Wild West, though.What do you predict is going to happen next day,three to five years?Are they going to be approving many, many more?
01:25:53Yes.So it's whether or not the next administration comes in and follows the lead.The cat is out of the back.I think it's going to be really hard to shove it back inbecause then you just completely create a black.market and you're going to lose to cartels and the yakuza. That's not the way to go.But if you can continue the process of finding and doing the right kind of studies and getting theright. Then the compounders and the drug manufacturers that are legitimately in this country
01:26:17can buy like I do. I buy from greenlisted facilities that are approved by our FDA,even if they're around the world. I buy my materials from them. They all come with COAs.We double check all the COAs against those COAs. Then we produce product that we test again.and we not just do purity potency.It's not about the 99% that's in there that you know is right.It's the 1% that you don't know what that is.We test for that.Hard to think about that.
01:26:43But that's the thing.People just go, oh, it's 99% pure.Well, what's the other 1%?What if it is fentanyl?You got a problem.I'm looking at a July report.They're adding B.C. 157 to category one for ulcer of colitis indicationrather than general recommendation use.
01:27:01Yes.So it's getting favorable reviews, but they're fearful to sort of give it a general knot, right?They're all starting very small knot on just what, you know, the grand scheme of what they do.They're starting very small on them, yes.Okay.I believe Epithelon was for sleep disorder.They tried D.Sip.That one got, I don't actually got a no because there's so many other options for sleep out there right now.
01:27:26Yeah, there's six that I've got to prove.They're doing another seven in January.January as well. And we'll see where that goes from there. Ultimately, there's 44 that I know that Ihelped write safety studies for and paperwork on. Safety studies in terms of manufacturing in terms ofcritical effects. Yeah, like, here's what we do. This is what we do to make sure they're safely donehere in America. And I wrote that back in October of last year. And that was submitted to MAHA for when thiswas all going. And I'm one of probably dozens of people that help put this stuff together.But yeah, I wrote some of those study reports and how, you know, here's where the information
01:28:01is. If you're looking outside the U.S., these are the ones that we have.Is there a country that's doing it better than we are?No, not now. But back in the day, I mean, you've got to think about it. Russia during the Cold WarSoviet Union days, they had no access to our medications. They've been doing this for 70 yearsbecause they didn't have another option. They were far more advanced on these productsuntil, I'd say recently. But AI, you know, it's going to kill us all. It's also going to cure us all.The reality is, and I know you don't like bold statements,but how fast AI figuring out the pathways and how these things work,
01:28:40you're talking about perhaps like ending death in 20 yearsbecause if you have like, okay, so chronic kidney failure kidneys,there's no drug on earth for it.You go on through dialysis and then you get a replacement or you're done.Clotho is being used and that's what our trial is right now in first stage.For what causes of chronic kidney disease?Well, that's the thing.It's not linked to the cause.
01:29:07What we're taking is we're taking people that do have chronic kidney failure and kidney disease in a broad scope.We're giving them cloth, though, and GF all these levels that normally never rebound.We're seeing rebounds.Going early or late in the 10-stage radial disease?We're going, what we're targeting mostly is like 30s, 40s, 40s,30s, 50s, where you're GFR.Yeah, your GFR and your cratine levels, let's say, somewhere between 1.8 to 2.5, not in the6thus.
01:29:39Yeah, and from there, but those are mostly hypertensives, I imagine.Some are that.Diabetic.There's all sorts of reasons why.But we can, from there, we can take that information and then we go into the next and the next.And like I said, there's nothing on earth for it yet.So you got to start somewhere in a positive result.Because it allows me in more opportunity to get deeper.
01:30:03Have you gone to drug participating in any of this?Does anybody talk to them?There are definitely one to throw.I don't want to go that route yet.I prefer to get the right type of partners to once we have real proof in the pudding.I never, you won't see me put something out and say, hey, this works for this.I'll talk a lot about what's coming and what it looks like, which is great.But, you know, all these orals that I've talked about, I haven't released any of them,
01:30:32even though they are showing great, you know, original, like, seeing the results.But I haven't gotten the white papers yet or anything published.Right.So I'm not going to go on.So Clotho is going right now.It is in Pittsburgh.It's going through a set of doctors out there.It's going through an FDA-proof research.
01:30:50So I'm hearing we're getting some technical issues here.Caleb, what happens is we accumulate, speaking of accumulating these sort of,what do you callwe get,Caleb?It's a packets issue.It's something,but it's something over on your side.
01:31:07It's a tech term.And we're starting to get in trouble with that.I didn't notice anything.So we got to wrap things.You didn't even say the word China.We're good.We got to wrap things.Things you never knew.
01:31:19Okay.I guessing China's involved in this kind of stuff too, I'm sure.They make a lot of the wrong choice.You didn't say China once.Okay, well, you brought it up.I did.I didn't know that.a no-go. You got to give me a briefing on this stuff.
01:31:30I didn't say it derogatorily wise.I said, we're championing them.Oh, I say we order from the...There are stuff.Well, I hate to say it, but there is a lot of stuff that we buy from all over the world.It's a world economy, right?That's how it goes.Yeah.
01:31:44Well, listen, thank you for coming in and sharing all this with us.It is still hallucinating a little bit to bewildering.But I now know to go to the peptide university.Yeah.That the professional society is called again...The American Peptides Association.American Peptide Association.You can find physicians there.
01:32:01Yep.And then there's telehealth that people are very interested in this.Yeah, there's a lot of telehealth.And would you just look up telehealth peptide?Yeah, I mean, you're more than welcome.If you go on health biomed industries or labs or whatever, you want to get a content.Yeah, you can get in contact.Like I said, I can refer or I can give you ideas of where to go.
01:32:16I'm happy to do it because it really is about just helping people at this point.There's a lot of people that I refer to that I have nothing to do with because it doesn't matter.You know, if you have cancer and I'm,I'm not an oncologist, but I'm going to help you find someone that might be able to help you, right?You don't want to let that go.All right.So it's alpha biomed industries.Industries.com.
01:32:38It is the Peptide Society, American Peptide Society.Yep.And it is the peptide University.Correct.Okay.I think with those three resources, people could do a lot.They can.It seems to me.
01:32:50Yes.All right.Good.I hope people learn a little bit here today.It's still a big, big topic.and for a lot of people, I'm sure it's bewildering.It's bewildering for me.I'm a physician, so it gets very difficult to navigate all this.
01:33:04So be careful, be self-conscious about what you're doing.Find somebody you can trust, help you guide through it.And again, I worry about adverse events.So always keep an eye on the potential of anything adverse happening.There's no doubt in my mind these things have beneficial effects.because there's no doubt in my mind.But in terms of adverse effect,get somebody to help you make that risk-reward analysis.
01:33:32So, but thank you for being here.Anyplace else you want people to go to find you?No, I think that's a good spot.Do we run the...Oh, yeah, you can go to Trevor Cruder.comif you want to get in touch with me personally.CRU, K-U-R-D-E-R.K-R-U-D-L-L-L-E-R.
01:33:45Okay.Otherwise, I think we ran the cycle.Yep.All right, everybody, we're a little...I'm way late.We had a lot going on today.We'll be back to...I'm not going to...
01:33:53Well, there's the list.Kelly Victory in here tomorrow.Nick Hulshar, there's some really interesting stuff.He's publishing, speaking of medical literature.Lindy Lee coming in there.Mary Talley Bowden coming in.I can't.I get the camera gets the way of my list.
01:34:09But that's good enough.You go to our doctor.com.We've got all the upcoming guests there.And I'll see you tomorrow at, I believe so.I don't think we do.But that's okay.Well, then don't go there.She wants to discourage you from going to the website, which I find fascinating.
01:34:29I don't want to lie.Let me quickly go on the resumed.But we're worried that things might change and we don't want to give.Understood.They do change occasionally.Let me look at you got what you're up to here.When you have to travel and stuff.Okay.
01:34:44I think Trevor got bumped twice.I'm sure.We've been so crazy with our schedule lately.Yeah, I did, actually.You did.Apologies for that.You did.I feel bad about it.
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