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Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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Guar Gora decided to leave a Holo Live. If you pull this up, it has 18 million views. Like everybody on the whole internet was talking and thinking about this shit, right? And so 234,000 likes. So she was extremely popular. Like, I would say Guarguera is like top five, if not top three most popular V-tubers, right? Her leaving Hollow Live is a really, really big fucking deal. And the bigger deal about it is the fact that she's leaving, and this is what she said about it, right?

I'm really sorry for- Okay, all right, we're going to listen to it. So she, and you can see, obviously, it got 2 million views. A lot of people really had a lot of opinions about this and thought about this. And so she was a beloved creator. Everybody liked her. And so, anyway, we'll listen to what she said yesterday about it and see what happened. Okay, there it is.

Hi. Okay. So this is directly what it was. Did she die? Yeah, kind of. It's me? It's your boy. From

Hollow of English Myth As of no surprise She's probably nervous as fuck. Coming tonight Yeah And for Being here

Because like you can tell at this point Like it's over What you know what this is It's over For sure It's cooked It means a lot to me That you're here

Right now I'll keep this short and to the point I'm not so good with words but I will do my best and please forgive me I am reading off of some notes so that I don't forget anything Yeah

First of all I'm really sorry for worrying you Or upsetting you with this announcement I'm upset This has been a very long time coming But today I am here to announce that I will be graduating from Holo Live on May 1st,

2025. So, real quick, graduating, this is like a term that V-tubers use. It's a, like, a holdover vestigial term from, like, idol culture whenever a member of a pop group or, like, a, you know, like a celebrity group moves on beyond that group, right? And so it's like basically graduating and leaving, these are synonymous. It's the same thing. But it's just like a euphemism, right? My reasons being disagreements with management and company direction.

That's crazy. We're probably never going to know. actually the reason why, like, what the disagreements were, etc. But I do think that like, uh, basically like her saying, like, this has been going on for a while and it's been because of management, that's kind of a big deal. Why is this such a big deal? Um, I can talk about it afterwards. In September of 2020 with four other incredibly talented girls.

Yeah. Who I respect and admire. I had barely. any streaming or singing and dancing experience before joining this company. I know people like to be rude in chat. Everybody wants to be rude and obnoxious and just be like a mean for like no reason. This obviously, I mean, she's got four and a half million subscribers, like two million people watch this. Like the fucking announcement on Twitter had 18 million views. Like if you're acting like that, like you're just being a fucking asshole, right?

I don't know why you would say that like you're just being a rude stupid boomer honestly like you're really no different than like your grandpa that's asked you to turn down the game boy if you're playing your Xbox like just stop it

just stop being an asshole stop being a dickhead it was incredibly exciting but also very intense and unexpected to be suddenly surrounded by so many eyes and expectations

I remember there being many days where the stress was so overwhelming that I couldn't eat or keep food down. But the continuous support and patience of my wonderful community helped to lessen that feeling and pushed me to go on to do things that I didn't even know I was capable of. I am so lucky and so thankful for each and every one of you. To the opportunities given to me. And for the almost five years, we've been able to spend together. I love singing for you and performing for you on stage or in my bedroom. You helped pull me out of my shell.

And I went off from being too scared to sing alone in my shower, to singing alive in front of hundreds and thousands of people. No, I remember that. And I think about how many of you I've been able to connect with. It brings me so much joy. It's been an honor and a dream come true to be your shark. Your Gupa. Mm-hmm.

With you, I've been able to achieve what I thought for a very long time would be impossible for a girl like me. No, I don't know anything inside about this. I have no idea. It's not like I have like some like inside details or insider knowledge. I love being an idol. and V-Tubing and watching all of my

semai, Kauai and the entire V-tubing community grow into this amazing, colorful, and successful world. I love the banter we've shared over the years. I love your clips and compilations, your cosplays,

fan art, every single bit of it. I am so lucky to have been loved in such a way. Those of you that sat and fretted over what to write I poured your hearts out to me in ink Please know that I have all of your letters And I will seal them and keep them forever

Until the archaeologists take them up in 300 years and try and decipher what a gargura was Thank you for your compassion your creativity and your dedication to me Thank you for waiting for me Thank you for waiting for me to return. Is this contract dispute? Yeah, basically. Let's have as much fun as we can together during these last two weeks. Yeah.

Please share your kindness and patience with everyone. And while my time here may be coming to an end, I will cherish the memories that we've made together forever. Well, there it is. I have one final project to share with you, and I can't wait for. you to see it. I'm feeling really optimistic for the future and I hope you are too. Thank you everyone for letting me be your little shark. Well there it is. That's it. Wow. Well, um, this is what's happened.

So apparently uh cover corp. So like let me see uh hollow live uh live uh cover uh stock. So this is their stock. I'm going to see if I can just pull it up and get an idea of this. Where the fuck is it? One day, five day, whatever. I'm not sure if this is the right number to check or not. But it's very clear like the stock kind of went down, obviously, after her leaving. I mean, she's like one of the main faces of this group. And then her leaving because of that, that's kind of a big fucking deal, man. That's a massive fucking deal. And so that's down 10%. Yeah, that's a huge, huge. amount. And so anyway, they sold their shit. Yeah, I know they did. And basically, apparently, they went public or something like that. Like, I don't know, like, all the details about this. But,

you know, as a V-tuber, and this is what I've noticed a lot from, like, contracts, and this is something that I even talked about, like, Tectone, the thing is here, if anyone's shocked by Gura's decision to leave Hollow Life, and her main decision to, is due to the company's direction, you only need to understand how shit V-tuber orgs are, ownership of identity. That means that like Hollow Live owns Guar Gura. Like she doesn't own it, they own it. So like if she wants to go off and do her

own thing or have her own opinions or whatever also like I know there's been some people that are like negative and rude in this in the stream. Like I just want to, uh, I'm gonna just let you know like this is what happens whenever you do that. Um, just real quick. So like this, like we just ban you like you're nobody. Like you're

nothing bro. Like you just, you're just rude, obnoxious and you're just making this stream worse by being on like annoying. Why would you be an asshole? Like, why would you even do that? Like, yeah, banal. Yeah, just permanent. You're like, you don't mean shit, bro. Like, you're just annoying. So just keep that in mind whenever you're trying to be obnoxious or like rude. Uh, yeah, why do you care as much? The reason why I care about the people that act this way is because it's disrespectful and rude for no reason. Uh, there's no real premise on it other than the

fact that they just don't like it. And so when you're taking a person who's having a bad time for something that you just simply don't understand. Like, I would understand if this is like a person that like, you know, for example, like somebody is like crying about like, you know, getting sentenced to jail for like running somebody over, fine. But like when you just have like this free float, free floating, like just a hostile, unpleasant energy and you're putting it out in the chat every time that you see something or somebody that you don't like, uh, I just, I don't want to have that in my stream. it's not useful. It doesn't add any value to the stream.

That's all you do? Well, if it's all I do, then that's fine. But then we'll go watch somebody else. But the fact is that the majority of people are not doing that. And so if that's all I do, you would expect more people like that. But there are a good amount. It's crazy to be that disrespectful for no reason. Yeah, exactly.

It's just there's no reason for me to do that. And so anyway, yeah, so that's the reason. Like, I'm okay with people that are like hostile for reasons that make sense. if you just don't like something and you're just constantly shit talking it over and over, like, why would I want to have that type of negativity in my community for any reason? Like, why would I want to promote that or provide a platform for that or like anything? Because, like, again, the fact is that it's really only like 30 or 40 people that we're doing it. And so, like, why would we let the entire vibe of the community be shifted because of 30 or 40 people

that really want to express a lot of negativity towards something that they just don't like for really? I mean, and there's no real reason. to not like this, right? Like, there's no, like, logical reason. Like, I could understand it's like, somebody doesn't like, um, ISIS, right? Somebody doesn't like, uh, you know, like some like murderer or whatever. But like, this is just literally some girls streaming, uh, with like a cartoon character, right? And so, like, if this gets you to the point to where, like, you have to insult this person

and, like, repeatedly berate them and, and degrade them, uh, this is a point where you're a loser, man, you're like a, just an obnoxious, rude loser. and so like why would I want to provide a platform for obnoxious weird rude losers like really like no i don't want to do that why the fuck would i want to do that and so anyway let's dial that the fuck down and also like the thing is that a lot of people can never see the forest through the trees right here's the forest is the fact that these companies and these groups take advantage in a lot of cases of these content creators and they create a relationship with them that are completely one-sided, that are, I think, exploitative and predatory. And I think that they exercise a degree of control and a degree of oversight that is not coherent for like a good experience for an audience. It's not healthy for a relationship for a person to have with a management company. Like if you worked at a job and your job treated you this way, you'd be losing your fucking mind. And so when I see this, I've used.

this as, you know, an abstraction of a bad work practice that is being applied in an industry that I'm related to, right? So whenever I'm talking about it, I'm thinking about it on that level. I'm not thinking about Guar, Gora, I'm not even thinking about Hollow Life. I'm thinking about the idea of this and what this idea means and what her leaving, you know, how that affects this idea. So, like, that's, that's where I'm at. That's where I'm in. And so anyway, let's, let's go back i just wanted to to make sure i address that because there's been a lot of a lot of weird people and again i just there's just no reason for me to provide any platform for this that's it and so anyway uh no do nobody wants to listen to this crap thing about your stream the thing is like

people say nobody wants to listen to it but um uh again uh right now i mean i've been live for less than a half hour i've got 30 000 viewers uh a lot of people want to listen to it so if you don't want to listen to it that's fine uh then just go listen to something else that's okay like it's not a big deal to me and so yeah I do a lot of people do and also the thing is too

is like the yeah I don't even know why you would say that yeah you're not even here you don't even contribute in community the only thing you contribute is just being rude

and so first yeah first and last message bro like why would why would I want to do with that at all and so anyway yeah it's just a very very weird weird dynamic and so anyway

that's the way I see it why am I'm crashing out I am because there's just a lot of people that are hostile and rude for no reason. And so, like, I just, because, like, this is a problem that I have with, like, my community and it happens kind of regularly is that I'm hostile a lot with people. And so, like, they think that, like, that free-floating hostility, they can just apply

it to anybody they want. But, like, nobody cares really. Well, why would you even say that? Like, why would you even, why even do this? And so, no, I just literally just don't be a dickhead, don't be rude, right, for no reason. And that's it. And so, anyway, just agreeing with you, it's the same as crashing out? Well, it's not even, yeah, exactly.

I mean, I don't know what to say. But anyway, yeah, I just literally, like, I want to let people know, like, any type of hostility, disrespect, or rudeness that I experience, I have a one-size-fits-all policy, and that's a permanent ban. So if somebody types the same message two times or three times, if somebody says something, I think is annoying, if somebody keeps bringing up the same topic, if somebody doesn't want me to talk about a topic, anything that happens, I will immediately permaband for. it. So, and I usually don't ever read my ban appeals or anything. So it's like if you get banned,

that's it. And so that, that's really all there is to it. But I just want to make sure people understand that that's really how it goes on. And there's not really any degree of that that I tolerate at all. And I only do whenever I think it's funny. But other than that, if that's it. So yeah, anyway, I feel like we just, we talked about this for a while and it's just weird at this point. So anyway, yeah, mods, just for right now, just go and anybody who's being weird or rude, just permaband all of them. Yeah, just go and permaband all of them. I feel like we haven't had like a cleanse in people like this for a while. So yeah, just anybody who's being rude even slightly, even like 1%, just permaband.

Get them out. I don't want to deal with that. Yeah, Stalin Purge, exactly. Yep, Stalin Purge. Get them out. Weird community. And I don't need to have it. I don't need them.

Nobody does. That's why they're here. And so anyway, so that's really it. You should, but with politics, free, just wants you only react to politics stuff? No, it's not that at all. But anyway,

yeah, so that's really what's going to happen. And we're going to remember this day on ban appeal streams? Maybe. But let me go back. I've been distracted like by a lot by this. And it's like, what am I doing? What am I doing getting distracted by this? Like, most people don't give a fuck about this.

Let's move on. And so anyway, yeah, if somebody's ruined, just permanent ban. Anyway, so this is what happens with a lot of these content creators is that they have a relationship with a company that is like predatory and exploitative. And I think that like some companies, like for example, I know like V Shiojo for example, I believe allows you to retain the rights of your IP after you leave the org. So like, for example, I think Silvervale is a good example of this. Silvervale was in Vichogio and then she left it. Same with Vebe, who's now Veshojo, left Vichogio and they retained their entity, right? Their personality.

And so that's a huge W for V-Shojo, right? It's a good thing that they did. And I think that all of these companies should look at that. And like really V-tubers should be, V-tubers are people. They're not cartoons. They might play a cartoon, but they're not. and they should be treated like people and not cartoons and not comics or drawings. And I think that a lot of these systems are really holdovers from, you know,

like Japanese idol culture maybe or some other form of exploited of practice. And so like I said this, but myself, compared to traditional origin streaming agencies, V-tubers central words are often exported to say the least. This seems to be a residual function of the idol management groups primarily in Japan. So I hope it keeps dying as the YouTubers realize they have other options now. The fact is that V-tubers make the org, the org doesn't make the V-tuber. And I think that the more indie v-tubers you have, and indie ones are the ones that aren't part of one of these big orgs, the more of them that come out and that are successful, the more that that will be proven. And so I'm very happy to see this happen in a way because it shows that the tide is turning and you can have people that are really well-known who are willing to throw in the towel rather than continue to be theoretically.

I mean, we don't know the details of this, but exploited, put in places that they don't want to be in, made to feel uncomfortable, etc. So, yeah, I find this to be a very, very good thing, and I hope it continues to happen. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you about that, right?

And so, why are you more sympathetic for this versus your take on voice actors who's near jobs to AI? Because these people are losing what their autonomy is, and that's the reason why. Yeah, it's really just that simple. The The voice actor stuff is a lot different.

And also because they're not attacking their audience, that's another really big reason is that, you know, you never have one of these V-tubers go and, like, say, a bunch of negative stuff about their audience. I think that's a huge reason. It's like if you want to keep your audience and you want to keep a personality or whatever, it's a gotcha. Yeah, I think that the way that the person structured it,

it's polite enough for it to be a conversation. But that's really what it was. Why doesn't she keep streaming independently? So the funny thing about that is that's what's happened. Is that, let me see I can find it here. Is that this is what's happened, not now, but just a second. So this girl, dokeybird, used to be a personality previously in another like v-tubing agency, like Holo Live. And it was called Nijasanji.

And she was removed from Nijasanji, or she left. I don't remember like all the details. And Nija Sanji had pretty much everybody who was part of the group around her. Like pretty much all like act like robots saying the same thing, doing the same thing. So they could look like they were like stronger without her. And so like she left the, she left that org. And if you look at like her YouTube channel, for example, as far as I know like she's still, she's still doing very well. She still gets views, et cetera.

and this is a good thing, by the way. It's a very good thing. And she's popular on Twitter, etc. So I think this is going to continue to be the case. And as more and more V-tubers like Gura and, you know, dokeybird, as more of them go, you know, quote indie, and they don't need to be represented by, like, one big group like this, I think that the more that they're going to have, like, the rights of their own

and they can decide to do what they want. They ran a smear campaign and tried to try to try. turn all her colleagues against her. Yeah, that's pretty much what happened. I mean, I think that's what happened, or at least their colleagues tried to turn each other against her. Either way, Nijasanji really, I think, totally fucked up. And it made them look awful, by the way.

It, like, massively damaged their brand in, like, a tremendous way. And speaking of that, I'll look at this again. Cover Corporation, this is the corporation that owns Holo Live. Holo Live is the group that, you know, Guarguera was a part of. their stock went down by, look at this. Like, if you, it, it seems like, you know, this is another, you know, it's another liberator. Like, she just, it's like they just got tariffed, right? She got her liberation day.

It's not so good. And so anyway, yeah, it's Liberation Day again. She's their biggest English talent. Yeah, exactly. And so that's really the way I see it. And that's what it is. And she liberated the company, yeah. And so, and again, you look at this number, right?

I mean, it's not like the worst number you've ever seen, but it's certainly not a good one either. Like, you look at this and, you know, it was down like a little bit before, et cetera. But I think that really what's going to happen is that you're going to see more people that realize that, you know, it's really the tail wagging the dog with these corporations that are exercising this level of control. And I think also audiences in a general sense are not fans of it either because the way that these people are treated is very inauthentic and it's artificial. And I think audiences can sense that and it's off-putting to them. So I think we're going to see a lot more pushback from this and a lot more negativity. And I think that's a good thing.

Not towards Guarguara, obviously, but towards these organizations that are overly controlling and predatory to a degree that is, I think, like unfair for like a content creator right so yeah that's it could gura stream with the same identity or did she need a completely new one she would need a completely new identity and so like that's it similar to modeling contracts um i don't know what modeling contracts are i'm just not familiar with them but um yeah i did see that earlier today this is like really really big news yesterday etc she has an old one yeah well then she's probably going to use that that's pretty much what i would assume and good for her i think that would be for her. And I think that when that happens, you're going to see tons of people support her.

The odds are we're probably never going to know the details and the nuts and bolts of why this happened. But I think that you can be sure that, you know, again, with all the other cases that have happened publicly, that we have had information shared publicly, the odds are that this one probably isn't completely different, you know? So yeah, Machina Moana wanted this, walk so this company could run into the ground. Well, actually, like, so, um, like idol management companies in Japan and Korea walked. So Machinima could trip and fall and die. And then, you know, Holo Live and these other companies could look at Machinema and say,

okay, well, let's do that, but not trip and fall. And so it's a little bit different, right? Because this has been going on, like this premise has been going on for very, very long time. And it predates internet culture. So, like, for example, like idols in certain places are not even a, allowed to publicly have a boyfriend or a girlfriend even, because if you do that, it can fuck with the fantasy that the audience has with you. And in my opinion, I find this to be, um, I think it's sick to be on. I think it's sick and weird and disgusting. Uh, it's, and the reason why is that

if you take it to the second level and you take it to like the next, like, like, a frame of conclusion, uh, what you have is you have these people that are effectively going and, uh, they're just being, uh, what do you call it? they're basically farming weirdos that are obsessed with them. Like, that's it. And they want to sell a fake fantasy to a bunch of, like, lonely weirdos. And I just think that's like it's unhealthy. It's, I don't really know.

I don't like using the word predatory, but it is predatory to an extent. It's just gross, bro. Like, it's weird. And so, yeah. Yeah, I don't need to be like Playboy. Yeah, exactly. Only fans, but before Only fans existed.

Yeah, exactly. It takes away their own personal liberties from their talents. It's fucked up. It is. Do you know how much these companies pay? The odds are a lot of these girls are probably compensated pretty well. Like I would assume that they are and they probably have like a relatively good payout, etc. So I'm not trying to say like that they're not making any money or whatever.

But I think that it's not really always about money. And especially like, I mean, for somebody that's this popular, like you've pretty much hit the threshold of like I'm making enough money like, you know, years ago. And so like now you're in a totally different threshold, a totally different world. So yeah. let's see here they sell an insane amount of merch yeah I don't know how many fucking like I went to an anime convention there was like 10 people walking around with shy lily merchandise on

so like yeah it's super fucking popular but that's really at no dating Asmon well again and you have streamers like and this is the thing is that like especially early on and even girl streamers have this problem have you guys ever seen like a girl streamer that gets a boyfriend and then like immediately a lot of her like Donators or, you know, sub-gifters or, you know, like even her viewership at a macro level drops

massively. Though the reason why that happens, here's the reason why, it's because these people weren't giving her money. They were giving her money with like the weird mentally ill hope that maybe if I do enough of these things that she'll notice me and she'll have sex with me. That is actually like, and a lot of people don't want to say this, right? Nobody wants to say this. but that actually is how simple it is. Because what could be the other reason if you start dating somebody and then you hate the person then? I wonder.

I fucking wonder. Like, what are we even talking about? It's obvious. And so that's it. There's simps. Yeah, they are. There's simps. And so, like, if you have a culture around farming semps,

and I'm not saying this is what they do, but this is like an idle culture vestige, as I said, of like farming samps, lying to them about your relationships, etc. You know, you make your bed. You do. And you make it with a bunch of fucking freaks. That's the facts. A bunch of fucking freak weirdos, controlling, unpleasant, fucking, like, just the worst people you never want to be around these people in real life. And that's it. It's unattractive even if you don't want to get with a girl. I realize that myself. The idea of talking to fantasy is gone, even if you don't want to hook up or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Like there's like a there's like an implied fantasy

Whenever you're talking to a girl that's single That like something could be going on And this is the way like chatters and girl streams act Right? I mean like I'm not Guys I like literally every single Like every single bit of I could do an eight hour stream About the different ways that this is true Like fucking it's you could look at it this way

You've got this graph and then there's these data points And then there's this other thing And then you look at representation. You do fucking everything. And it's going to say the same fucking thing. And so that's it. Is Asminkled single? Yes, of course.

I don't want to... Bro, like, yes. I don't want people to lose the fantasy. And so it can be very dangerous. Remember what happened to emirous... Bro, well, the thing is that... I think COVID really... This is the thing with COVID.

COVID, oh my God. Oh, my God. I would even talk on somebody about this yesterday and so what happened with COVID is that people lost their fucking minds like they went off the rails after COVID

everybody everybody totally lost it and it's crazy to think it really is because why would that even happen but yeah like basically if somebody was like 100% retard actually like let's say if somebody was 10% retarded

COVID took it and like multiplied it by like two times, right? So like now they're 40% retarded. It's like, you know, times 10. Okay, so it's like 20 times 2 times 2 again. It's 40, right? So, but here's the problem, though. Here's the real issue.

Is that you had people that were already 80% retarded. Oh, fuck. That's like now they're 360, 320% retarded. Oh, fuck. Oh, shit. What are you going to do? Oh, no. and it's not good i tell you that those are the ones that try to show up and snipe people like uh like

these weirdos right and so that's it uh i'm sure can you cover the canadian debates tomorrow look bro if i'm live i'll do it and if it's not late i'll do it sure sure but i'm not canadian but yeah i'll probably watch them we'll see what happens but uh and so that's it it's body pillow boys yeah like i remember i went to like an anime convention uh like a convention it was like, you know, tangential to anime, like, in like 2012. And like, nobody had body pillows there, right? And, like, now I went to an anime convention, like, I don't know, like a few months ago with Emmy and a fucking Ms. and extra Emily.

And people just walk around. Like, they even have girls sign their body pillows. Like, bro, do you have, like, you just are out with it? You just, you just, you lay it out there. You just put it on, you put it right in front of them. damn yeah damn what the hell is going on and so that's what i think and so uh yeah if you call the covid the covid pandemic rise of the gooners uh yeah and so this is really what's happened i wanted to talk about this and uh and get into it but uh i totally support gura i think that she's a

great creator i've seen a number of her clips i'm not really a big honestly i'm gonna be real, I don't watch streams, bro. Shit's boring. Who the fuck would watch a stream? But the fact is that, you know, I see clips here and there. And, you know, like, it's good. I mean, like, I mean, not her. I'm just talking about everybody, right? I mean, what the fuck?

I got to play a video game. I get off stream. I play a video game. I get on Twitter. I play some turn-based combat on Twitter. And so, yeah, what the fuck am I going to do? And so, yeah, but I mean, for her, like, I think that what she did is incredible. The level of, you know, like, the, the,

success that she achieved is, you know, really respectable. It's tremendously respectable. And I'm glad to see, you know, like so many people supporting her. And, you know, that's the way I feel about it. That's where I'm at. That's how I feel, you know.