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Episode Date: July 9, 2025

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I want to begin, but among other things, everyone's attacking you for your position. What are you doing in the government? There was a cyber attack on X today, which shut it down and may have been foreign sourced. It's a big story. You want to give us a moment on that? Well, we're not sure exactly what happened, but there was a massive cyber attack to try to bring down the X system with IP addresses originating in the Ukraine area. Oh, well, so that's your suspicion. Is the website, is the internet up? Yeah, as I said before, I don't think you can blame this on Ukraine.

I just don't, I don't think so. But it's, you know, I hope that they find out who did it. I hope whoever did it gets fucked. Is it up yet? It's up yet. It's up yet. Okay, good. Yeah. But I just was looking back.

Let me see if I get this right. They're setting fire to various Tesla charging stations near Boston. Oh, oh. shots were fired at a Tesla dealership in Oregon. I saw that. Various nonviolent. Shots fired. Not a metaphor.

He doesn't know the meme because he's old. The interviewer doesn't know the meme. Downtown New York, marching against the Tesla showroom. Your stock is way down. You've been criticized, left and right. But look on the right side. I mean, why are you doing this? Always look on the bright side of life?

Yes. I'm an optimist. But besides that, yes. I mean, how's your day? What motivates you to do this? Was the offer good?

It's tough sledding. Yeah. It is tough sledding. But I think we're doing the right thing here. The, you know, there's been a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government. You know, when you're part of the government, you, you know, you're, you're, you're, You saw a lot of that. And there's been, if you look at the Inspector General Reports and the government accountability

office, there have been many audits that have pointed out that there's a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government. In fact, there was a report. Well, I don't know if this is true, but I read something about $12 billion to be allocated for a submarine to be built. And then the submarine was never built, but they never got the $12 billion. back. How does this happen? Oops. Where did it go? He gave you $12 billion, so there's no submarine. Hmm. I think something may be wrong. Issued by the GAO at the government accountability office last year. So during the Biden administration, which estimated the federal government fraud to be half a trillion dollars.

So just be clear, that's not a Trump administration thing. It's a Biden administration thing. So what we're trying to do is get that number down to a much smaller figure, save money for the American taxpayer, stop money being spent on things that are, that I think very few taxpayers would agree make sense. You know, transgender animal surgeries or why are we spending money? Why are American tax dollars being spent on this? Nope. And the president's gone through a long list of absurd things. Why are the 20 million people who are definitely dead marked as alive in the Social Security database?

Why were hundreds of millions of dollars of small business administration loans were given out to people aged 11 and under, according to the social security? What? Hundreds of hundreds of millions of dollars of small business administration loans were given out to people aged 11 and under. I don't know, guys. Stolen identities? Yeah. I don't even know what to say.

You're wrong? Four submarines were built and sent out. Is that it? I don't know. That sure seems like that. That wasn't what I read. If that's true, post it. Let me see it.

I don't want to spread misinformation. So if that's actually true, posted on Reddit. Four's a lot for $12 billion? Yeah, sure. If it's a nuclear submarine, I could see it costing that much. According to the... I'm going to tell you this, right? I mean, four submarines a lot better than zero, right?

Like, at least with four, you can have a conversation about like, okay, maybe maybe we wasted... But like, you take $12 billion, there's zero. Like, that's a big fucking problem, right? Like, these must be some very enterprising, eight-year-olds.

You know? And it's pretty strong. 150-year-olds. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. As the president said, you know, we have an enormous number of people marked as alive who are 160. He didn't know the country was that healthy. Yes, yes. So demystify this. How do you do it? Okay. How big is your team? Yeah. Where's you recruit most of them from? And what is it that makes you choose, you know, the Treasury or Social Security or USAID? How does it work? Let the public. No, please.

Right. Well, we just basically follow the money. You know, we look at the president's executive orders, and we also just follow the money. So we started looking closely at USCID because they were completely violating the president's executive orders to suspend foreign aid. You know, what's called foreign aid, but in our view is a lot of corruption. Yeah. So what we saw there is just a trans amount of money being sent to. non-governmental organizations.

But actually, this, by the way, is I think one of the biggest sources of fraud in the world is government-funded non-governmental organizations. This is a gigantic fraud loophole where the government can give money to an NGO, and then there are no controls over that NGO. So they've given billions of dollars in that we estimate tens of billions of dollars to NGOs that are essentially scams. Man, man. Why do you think not a single person's been held accountable for this yet?

Probably because it takes a lot longer to figure out who did it wrong. That's the reason why. Where's the proof, though? That's a great question. Yeah, and you're right. Like, they need to start, if they want to get people's trust, they need to start posting receipts. They need to start, like, you know, get a YouTuber to make a fucking video to explain how this is happening. And I'm trying to put us off to that.

I don't want to interrupt. Secretary of St. Rubio just come out, I think he tweeted today. He's accepted over 80% of your recommendations to shut down in USAID. So your review and analysis was spot on. Yes. So I think when people criticize say what Doge is doing, we say, well, which part specifically? because we put all of the actions of the Doge team on the Doge.gov website and on the Doge handle on next. So we post the receipts.

So it's like this action has been taken. This action has been taken. So when we get... They need to have a video explaining it. That's the problem is that, see, Elon doesn't understand this maybe, but people can't fucking read. Nobody can read. So you can't have it written down because nobody's going to know what it says. It has to be, you know, like a TikTok, a YouTube video or something like that.

I can't read as much. No, no, I'm serious. I'm not joking. Like, I'm being serious here. Like, here, just real quick. What percentage of American adults are literate above a

12th grade level. Is that fair? These are people that are literate and they've graduated high school? 10th grade. It's going to be sad? No, no, y'all about to ready. Y'all about to see you? Y'all not ready for this?

Because have you guys ever noticed this on Twitter where you'll respond to somebody and they'll answer you in a way that is very clear that they didn't even read the message? I think it's because they can't read the message. A big problem nowadays is that you can't communicate with written words anymore in America because too many people are illiterate and retarded. So 77% of American adults have literacy skills above the 10th grade level.

So that means that 23% does not. That is massive. That's insane. That's like, yeah, it's like one in four people. can't even fucking read. It's probably lower than that. Yeah, I bet. I'm surprised it's so high. When we say, like, of what?

Which line do you disagree with? Like, which cut, which cost saving do you disagree with? And then people usually can't think of any. No. You know, so. It's transparent line by line. It's transparent line by line. Which is quite remarkable.

Right. And so, and then with respect, to the Treasury, for example, the two main recommendations we suggested, which have now been implemented, was that any payments going out of the Treasury, especially the Treasury's main payment computer, which is called PAM, things like a payments account manager or something like that, but it's like almost $5 trillion a year, so about a billion an hour, that the payments be coded with the congressional appropriation. and that there be an explanation for the payment.

Very basic stuff. I think that makes sense. Yeah, you would want to have it to where, if you have people sending out millions of dollars that it's explained why the money's being sent out, yeah, that seems pretty normal. They didn't have this? They didn't have this?

Oh, no. Oh, God. And just doing that, we estimate we'll save $100 billion a year. You're not really, let me see if I get this right. particularly with social, you're not really changing policy. I love the subtext on that. The subtext is a hundred billion or it was 100 million. I forgot what he said.

A million dollars is just being just set out for bullshit. There's no way that's crazy. You're auditing the fiscal mechanism. He's lying? You think he's lying? I don't. I actually don't. I think that it's actually.

corrupt. I do. I think they're fucking roaches, man. I do. I watch, like, listen, there was, like, that one woman that was, like, basically kicked out at the Democratic committee because she was a fraud. Hillary Clinton hires her the next day. Bernie Sanders gets froze out of two fucking primaries. Let's see. What else besides that? Hunter Biden is driving around playing Grand Deft Auto in real life. He gets a blanket pardon for 10 years. Guys. Guys, I

think that's corrupt. I do. They're all corrupt. Yeah. And Trump is it? I didn't say Trump isn't corrupt. What did I ever say that? I never said that. No, I'm sure Trump has done bad things as well. Absolutely. To make sure that, you know, from point A gets to point B, and that's where it's supposed to get to, in some cases, it doesn't.

get there where some cases it may go over there. But that's really it it's not a policy exercise. You're not changing laws. You're just doing what any business would do in a profit and loss audit. Yeah. I think what we're adding here is caring and competence. And there's a massive amount of fraud. I do think that he's bringing up a really good point is that I bet a lot of the people that work there don't give a shit. They don't give a shit and they're stupid. And I bet a lot of the money, it's not even corruption. It's just that it looks like corruption because it's so stupid. You would think it's corruption. It's not their money. Yeah, it's not their money. It's not their problem. Basically, people submitting social security numbers for social security benefits, unemployment,

small business administration loans and medical, where those are fake social screen numbers. Or they're stolen somebody else's social screen number. And we're trying to put a stop to all that. And that's the number which is estimated to be on the order of 10% of federal expenditures, which is half a trillion dollars. That's a lot of money. Yeah.

You're working with the agency heads. You're working with the cabinet secretary. Yes. I saw Howard Lutnik was on TV yesterday saying you were partnering with them. Is that fair? Yeah, what we do is in consultation with the cabinet secretaries and with the departments. So we're really trying to be sort of, we'll refer to ourselves as tech support. We're really helping the department get a handle on things. because what actually happens here is you've got this sort of vast federal bureaucracy and then you've got a very thin layer on top of the politically appointed officials.

And what tends to happen is that the bureaucracy, frankly, is in control. This is like, you know, like whenever you see one roach in your house, it means there's like 20 roaches. That's basically what he's saying. But there's probably more than 20. It's like 50 roaches. or like 100? And they largely ignore the politically-reported people.

Why should the bureaucracy? I'm sure you must have seen that. I've lived with this twice. I worked for Reagan many years ago, and I worked for Trump in the first term. It's like a permanent bureaucracy. I might add it's a permanently liberal bureaucracy. Yes, very much so. And it doesn't, it's not a bureaucracy that necessarily enforces or implements presidential policy.

They don't. In fact, they try their best to thwart. presidential policy. So the president is the elected representative of the people. And if the president cannot get things implemented as a reflection of the world of people, then what we have is not a democracy. We have a bureaucracy. We have rule of the bureau, not rule of the people. And that's what we're trying to defeat. The government is so complicated that you can't possibly do anything about it. You can't stop this from happening because there's so many people at the government. And it's just so so complex that you can never figure out who did anything wrong or what happened or why

did it happen. Yeah, absolutely. Not in four years. I don't know. I think it's pretty easy to solve this. I do. You just need a lot of people to do it. You need a lot of people to give a shit to do it. Here is, it's the bureaucracy. Like I remember one time in, uh, in, uh, in high school, I was, this is in my computer, computer repair class. This is my, my, favorite class. And at the beginning of the year, they gave me a gigantic cardboard box, and it was full of cords. And nobody wanted to do it. Nobody wanted to figure out the chords and do it. And I sat down next to the box, and for an hour and a half, for a week, I took every cord out, and I put it where it needed to go. And do you know what happened after that week?

there weren't any more loose courts and it was done that's it how do you solve it well you start attempting to do it did you get laid no no no of course not i didn't have a girlfriend absolutely i was a level 60 warrior and have rule of the people um you know the absolutely not and as you mentioned the uh the bureaucracies are overwhelmingly a Democrat. So Washington, D.C. was 92.5% I believe voted for Kamala. So there's overwhelmingly a deep blue situation. How do you pick your next targeted agency or department? Well, we're trying to act broadly across all departments, so it's not just one department at a time. Are you in all of them now?

All of them? Pretty much, yeah. Yes. Oh. They got into everything. Yeah, there it is. And the career bureaucrats who intentionally made the systems complicated to hide their corruption, never thought that AI can unravel the schemes so quick.

Well, see, here's the problem, right? Is that a lot of the people that created these systems are stupid. So it's very easy to solve the problem. It's very easy to take advantage of it. it and see what they did wrong because they're dumb. Like, do you ever seen a dog try to hide something? It can never do it. Or like a little kid try and hide something.

They can never figure it out. Because they're stupid. So whenever you have somebody this smart, you know, you bring in big balls, they're going to figure this shit out immediately. It takes five minutes from the figure it out. Yeah, that's it. We're trying to make the government more efficient across the board. So, yeah.

How big is your team? We're a little over 100 at this point. 100. 100. You're going to get to 200. Yeah. Okay. And you're recruiting from where.

More or less. 4chan. Just say 4chan. Just say you're recruiting people to audit the federal government from 4chan. Basically, it's software people, you know, information security software, people and uh for chan finance for chan yeah it's basically yeah finance and and technology um yeah and uh i mean frankly i can't believe i'm here doing this it's kind of bizarre but uh change subject change subject where do we get in these people it doesn't matter yep no no i kind of think that the

yeah you know we've got this enormous federal budget deficit and it's a it's a it's a The $2 trillion deficit, it keeps growing. Our interest payments are higher than our Defense Department budget. That's, I think, was the real wake-up call for me, was looking at seeing that the interest payments on national debt exceeded the Defense Department budget, and that was only growing over time, which meant if we didn't do something about this,

there won't be any money for anything. We'll just be servicing debt. how to read an income statement and you know how to read a balance sheet you've had some business this is fucking ridiculous this is has print more money yes oh my god experience i'm kidding but yeah surely this is sustainable surely really i just don't want america to go bankrupt so it's a call to action you're feeling you're hearing a call to action yeah um you're giving up your other stuff i mean How are you running your other businesses? With great difficulty.

Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, I mean. Yeah. Yeah, at a rocket pool, people are burning down my cars. Oh, geez. But there's no turning back, you're saying. Nope. No, you're locked in.

I'm just here trying to make government more efficient, eliminate waste and fraud and so far we're making good progress actually so our savings at this point exceed $4 billion a day so it's probably significant

you think you'll wind up getting to a trillion dollars yeah savings I mean unless someone's unless we're stopped we will get to a trillion dollars of savings and that stuff so when do we get the money yeah I mean like yeah because I feel like does anyone believe what Elon's doing I think that so I think there's definitely a degree of bullshittery like of course right there's going to be a degree of bullshittery definitely but I think that the fundamental goal of this is a good goal I think it's a good goal no evidence yet you realize that they have a website full of evidence right like

Yeah. Now, I understand it's not an infographic video, but, you know, I don't know what you want me to say. The website is bad. Well, then that's a different thing. It can be translated. I mean, we've been talking, we had Russell vote, the OMB director on earlier, through very rescission authority, impoundment authority. But I believe you said it earlier, it's an audit that will not gather dust on shelves. This is actually going to wind up. See, this is what they need to do. What they need to do is they need to figure out the people that would. involved with these different really big payments that are somehow unexplained and the payments didn't happen. And then they need to figure out who was in charge of those payments and then use some of those IRS agents that they hired to audit the people. And like if let's say you've got somebody and they were making $180,000 a year and one year they report income of $3 million, I think that you should probably look into

that. Because I think the real problem is that this won't really go away until you hold individual people accountable. Doches, I know, I mean, I would like, it's, and it's, it's so easy to figure this out, by the way. It's actually so fucking easy. Because 90% of the people that do it, like, you have, you have, there are people that are like really good financial criminals, but a lot of these people are not. And the reason why is because how many of you guys know people that are like this that, you know, like, let's say they're drug dealers, they, you know, they sell stolen merchandise, et cetera, right? I've known a lot of people like this my whole life. And these are like friends of mine, et cetera. And they get caught when they start getting lazy. When they stop

looking twice. When they, when they're like, you know what? I'm just going to do this with my normal phone, I'm just going to give you my personal cell instead of this other number. Or I'm just going to drive there with my car and not the other car. Like they get complacent. They start slipping and then before you know it, now they're taking a six month or a three-year vacation. Right. And so that's what it is. They edge too close to the sun.

Well, they just stop trying, right? They get lazy. And so anyway, stop hanging out with shipbags. These are my boys. What do you mean? I grew up with them. What do you mean? Get the fuck out of here.

Shut a pussy. Shut a pussy. Get the fuck out of here. Anyway, so here's the thing. And also, oh, by the way, all of the guys that I'm talking about all voted for Trump. They did. All of them did. And so anyway, the point that I'm making is that this whole thing, like, a lot of the people that are doing this are probably not very good at doing it.

They're stupid. So it would be really easy to find them. And it would be really easy to figure out what they're doing wrong. and then all you have to do is pull their records look at the people that are in like their immediate vicinity right like in their in their family and if one of these people in their family receives a massively high amount of money then pull that file evaluate the file look at the five year income of that file see where that income came came from look at the 1099s and look at the other types of royalty forms that you get cross reference that with their income compare that to what their employment was and you're going to very easily figure out who's who's the roach. And this is not, by the way, this is not some kind of fucking genius thing. It's common fucking sense. It's so easy to, this is not rocket science, yeah.

But these people are not that smart? Exactly. That sounds so easy? It's because it is. It's basic accounting. Yes, you would learn this in accounting one. Accounting one, you would learn this. With real savings.

bend the spending baseline down? Yeah. There have been many good audits, like I said, done by Inspector General's and by Government Accountability Office, and they just haven't been implemented. Nothing's been done. Yeah. The, you know, I think the GAO identified that there was 17 million dead people in the Social Security database several years ago.

It's now 20 million, but we did anything about it. And I mean, I think you can sort of look at this as... I think also, like, if you've got all those dead people inside of the system, this is like just my opinion, is that it's not necessarily meaning that all these people are receiving payments. However, what do you think the odds are that the people that are running a system that doesn't update their database? Probably don't give a shit about the database. It's like if that's not working, then imagine what else isn't working. complaint minimization optimization so so basically if the government stands that's false um well it's not though

right because if you have people inside of the database for social security that are no longer receiving social security why are they in the database why are they there it's a mining canary yeah it's a mining canary it's lazy sloppy design and it's the same thing remember what i said before about how like video games that use like, you know, gender swaps or race swaps with characters or movies, like you should assume that they're bad because I'm uning canary. Remember why I said that? It's because if you don't care about the integrity of the story, you probably also are don't care about, you know, making it authentic. You're lazy. Yes, you're lazy. Every company has this issue. Yes, exactly. It's a common occurrence in any line of work. It is. And that's why you need to have

audits and you need to figure this out. Yeah, on a regular base. Just stop. You're talking rubbish right now. Well, let me, so let me, let me, okay, I'll pull you up and, and what about what I'm saying isn't true? Data from a database can't just be deleted. It's regulated and audited. Okay, so you're saying they're not regulating and auditing the data?

And this is somehow an argument against me. You can't audit it. It has to be audited. Yeah, I guess so. And I think also, like, what this person is coming up with as an explanation is actually a really good indication of what I was saying was a problem. Oh, he responded. Give me a minute. I read it again.

You have two data, GDPR that prevent data. It's for the European Union. What do you say? What do you say? What do you do? To, whether it's a waste floor fortune, nobody complains if they receive money, but they do complain if they don't receive money. And the people that complain the loudest are the ones

receiving the fordulent money. And you're on it. Yeah. I mean, just, so the goal here is, let's not have America go bankrupt with waste and fraud. So that's what I'm here for. And we're making good progress. Yes, you are. You're going to go another year?

Yeah, I think so. Final report, middle of next year? Well, we're just getting things done as opposed to, right? writing a report, like say, reports don't mean anything. You've got to actually take action. Yes. So the... It's crazy you're saying the thing about people not being able to read was proof

into pudding? I told y'all. I told y'all, like, so y'all don't get it. Like, I raided in Classic World of Warcraft. I know how bad it really is. You don't know how bad it really is. I try over and over and over to say, guys, this is the problem

Trump's live is he really what is this tariff is my favorite word well is this is this now fake news went out and they really got no bro this is from

it's a rerun yeah you're lying man we got a lion ass bitch in the chat that's so annoying I'm trying to finish the fucking video you're doing this shit I mean the way it's important in entitlement spending you know which all of the, which is most of the federal spending is entitlements.

So that's like the big one to eliminate. That's the sort of half trillion, maybe $600,000 a year. That is also a mechanism by which the Democrats attract and retain illegal immigrants by essentially paying them to come here and then turning them into voters. Yes. Exactly. Of course. Yeah, they're importing voters.

The logic is that if we give you money, you're going to vote for us. So this is why the Democrats are so upset about the situation. Exactly. Because they're losing it. Yeah, if these illegal immigrants were conservatives coming from Russia, Democrats would be saying about how bad it is and how they all need to go back. Guaranteed. The only reason that these people are, like, and you saw this happen, right?

You saw this happen in the election when a lot of Hispanic communities actually voted for Trump. And you saw the mask off moment when they said, well, we did all this for you. You don't know what you're voting for. You don't know what you want. And an immigrant cannot vote. What the fuck? That's not, you're not thinking about it the right way. So you're not, you think about it in a short-term perspective. These are people that are making a decision that is going to work continuously over 10 or 15, 20 years. You know, if we turn off this gigantic money magnet for illegal immigrants, then they will leave and they will lose voters. Exactly.

If you had President's support, he said so again yesterday, he completely supports your operation. Yeah, well, thanks. Without the President's support, we couldn't make any progress here. That's true. But, yeah, I mean, where you'll see the big? biggest outcry is from the Democrats who are, they don't want the waste and for it to be turned off because it is a gigantic magnet to attract legal immigrants and have them stay in the country.

Yeah, of course. And the other magnet, too, and this is the other thing, is that I feel like it would be very easy to audit businesses and figure out, at least to an extent, who's hiring illegal immigrants and who's not. I think it would be very easy to figure that out. And they need to figure he's lying so hard. I don't think he is. I don't.

I'm sure there are some things that he said that wasn't true. But I think that the idea that Democrats are trying to import a voter base is absolutely accurate. Of course they are. If you were them, of course you would do that. Like that, it's obvious. Yeah, of course. It was easy. It would have been done a long time ago?

No. It's because they don't want to do it. That's the reason why. They don't want to do it. It's easy to do, but they don't want to do it. I mean, you see some of the crazy stuff like where money from FEMA, you know, which is meant, FEMA as an agency that's meant to take care of Americans in distress. And a bunch of their money was being sent to pay for luxury hotels.

in New York for illegal immigrants. And that would happen even after the president was elected, even after he signed an executive order saying that needs to stop. The roaches just can't stop. So we actually made sure that that money did stop going, because it's obviously outrageous that American taxpayer money is spent on luxury hotels for illegals. But you have to say, like, why was that being done?

It was because the Democrats are trying to import voters, basically. Yes. I agree. Yeah. And that's also why there's no voter ID in Needed in in fact in California and in New York State You're not allowed to show voter ID That's a crazy what? Why would you do that?

Doesn't even make any sense It's a dumbest fucking thing I could even imagine Where does that come from? Doesn't this even saying? Insane. Yeah, I'd say that as a New York It's insane. Insane. And it violates the entire Constitution and the principles behind it.

Yes. Producers are yelling to me to get out. I don't want to end this interview because it's too much fun. Yeah. Can I just ask you one thing, 20 seconds? Nothing to do with, nothing to do with Doge. Can you rescue the astronauts? Yes, we're bringing them back in a few weeks.

Not without Iraq. There's not near enough attention being paid to this. You're going to get him back? We're going to get them back. God bless. Thank you. Thank you for all your service. see you on musk we appreciate very much appreciate

take care thank you if he gets those astronauts back it's going to be a huge w it'd be great yeah absolutely it's a different rocket good yeah yeah I was hoping yeah that's good I hope they don't use the one that they were going to use yeah that was because that other rocket

was not good at all it's a real bad rocket it's a real bad rocket