Asmongold TV - Esports Is Dying, And I Know How To Save it | Asmongold

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, esports is not doing well. I'm going to go ahead and just play the clip, all right, for y'all to be able to see it. This is Sentinel. Sentinels is a, you know, relatively well-known e-sports org. And take a look at this. So Sentinels has posted their own offering memorandum. It's pretty crazy news. As you guys can see, they are giving themselves two to three months to survive if they're not able to raise more capital.
Starting point is 00:00:29 If you guys don't know, they're trying to raise. funds equivalent of $1.2 million in their own statement, they say if the company raises the minimum offering amount and if they're unable to raise additional capital through other means, they anticipate the company will only operate for two to three more months. This is given the fact they are burning almost $700,000 on expenses of player and content creator salaries, staff salaries, and other things every single month. Wow. So even if they raise the max amount, which they want $1.2 million you can read right below, they still only anticipate surviving four to five more months of operation
Starting point is 00:01:05 unless they can find funds from some other means. Actually insane. $700,000 per month across players, staff, creators. I mean, they have some big names obviously still underneath their hoods. Oh, they should have made more money off of them. I mean, I don't know what to say. The reality is that e-sports is fucking die. Like we saw
Starting point is 00:01:32 What was that Fucking that other guy That post like Jake Lucky does That Hunter guy What was that org he was a part of It was like Is it? I don't think it was G2
Starting point is 00:01:43 Was it? The guard Guard, yeah The guard That they went belly up Right They were done And then you saw
Starting point is 00:01:51 Blizzard Basically start trying to give people Their money back For the Overwatch League I'm feeling like And then we're we see this happen, I'm feeling like e-sports is just not
Starting point is 00:02:04 going to happen. And if it is, it's going to be in a much more low-key way than it is now. Now, I don't know exactly like what they're doing. I have no idea, but I think that it's dying. Like, that's really what I think
Starting point is 00:02:20 is going to be. I think it's dying. And I think the reason why is because I don't feel like people make the money back on a lot of these people. like sorry that was like super ambiguous i mean like investors and the companies don't make the money back on a lot of these player salaries like they pay somebody uh a hundred thousand dollars and then they make 30 thousand dollars and there are so many things that are like kind of off limits like
Starting point is 00:02:50 culturally inside of e-sports right so taking player winnings is kind of off limits culturally paying people based off of if they win or not is kind of culturally off limits. So there's a lot of things that like these companies kind of can't do that they would make more money with in a way. At the same time, it's not friendly to the players and that's why it's not culturally acceptable. But the problem is that CS Go. So why is CSGO? Why is CSGO? Why is CSGO? Esports. Why? What? Oh, what is the difference?
Starting point is 00:03:31 God, I wonder. Oh, man. Two reasons, actually. CSGO is like the chess of Esports. Counterstrike is. CS2 is going to be the same thing. Everybody understands
Starting point is 00:03:51 Counterstrike. And because, of that, it's been around for so long in 20 years. I can guarantee you that we're still going to have Counter Strike tournaments. It's going to be Counter Strike 3 or probably still going to be Counter Strike 2 at that point. But realistically, it will be. Even though I do think that, yeah, people are still going to be playing CS and excited about that and all of that. So number one, it's very easy to watch, easy to read, easy to understand. So that's number one.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Number two, the other reason is because they have gambling sponsors. So I think what's going to end up happening is that a lot of these different companies are going to. And also, the problem is that the e-sports are controlled. They're not controlled by the orgs. We've learned this from Nintendo. They're controlled by the company. So the company blocks off Gamba sponsors. They block off Vices sponsors, right?
Starting point is 00:04:52 We're talking like only fans, alcohol, fucking gambling, right? They block off the big money. And then they say, well, you've got to survive without this. Well, I mean, shit. Without hookers and blackjack, it seems like things aren't going very well. So I don't really know what's going to happen with esports personally. But I've thought this for a long time that e-sports was. very, very overvalued.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Like, I've seen, you know, for years and years and years, like millions of dollars getting invested into these orgs into the promise of some point in the future, e-sports is going to be like conventional sports. And you know what? If you're in South America, that's kind of true. And you know what? If you're in South Korea, that's also kind of true. But we're not in either one of those, aren't we?
Starting point is 00:05:45 and that's the situation that we're in. That's the problem. So it sounds like a bubble. It is. And I think that for so long, there was just investments of money, investments of money, investments of money on some theoretical future return.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But at a certain point, the chickens come home to roost, and it's been 10 fucking years. And I think you combine this, with a globally declining economy. You put that together with this situation. And also, like, e-sports too, you've got to keep this in mind. Esports go up and down based off of how juiced a game is.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So, like, Valorant is really popular right now. But, like, Valorant might not be popular in five years. Same with Apex. Same with PubG. Any of these games could, like, look at, I think Overwatch is the best example. Overwatch is not anywhere near as hype as it used to be. And because of that, sponsors are paying less because less people give a shit about the tournaments and less people give a shit about the tournaments because less people play the game.
Starting point is 00:06:56 So there's always a cause and effect. You missed Evo? Well, Evo, so think about some big differences with Evo because you're right. Like there is a competitive gaming community, but I don't think the competitive gaming community can survive on the pomp and circumstance that traditional e-sports have led people to expect, if that makes sense. So, like, these, like, massive fucking multi-million dollar tournaments, these huge franchises that are like $20 million spots, players getting paid high six-figure salaries to compete in this. I just don't think this is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Also, look at Evo. Look at what is the biggest difference between something like a fighting game and something like CS or Valorant? I'll tell you what the difference is. It's the fact that that you only have to pay one fucking person. You pay one person. So yeah. And I think that's the biggest reason. It's a lot easier to pay people. I don't think it's as inflated.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It's much more grassroots. And also like this scope of the fighting game community is not even nearly as like, like this spectacle of like something like Evo is nothing next to like a like world tournament for like League of Legends or like Valorance or, Dota or something like that. Like the Overwatch, right? Like the scale is so much higher.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And I think that's a good thing. Like the fighting game community from everything that I've seen, it is niche, but it is healthy because it's a niche. And that's the problem, is people tried to take e-sports into the mainstream,
Starting point is 00:08:35 and the mainstream doesn't give a fuck about what some nerd clicking on heads in a video game is doing. They just don't give a fuck. That's just how it is. No team drama. people falling out with each other and leaving, et cetera, just one dude playing?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Well, I think team drama is a big thing. So I'll tell you another thing that's killing esports. We're going to go to something else. We'll get this clip. A slight tap, Patino one's too good. Pops them. It's 12 to 8. Took a lot to get them there.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Shoots him there. I won't be celebrating like that, mate. A slight tap, Patina one's too good. And so he obviously shoots him, teabags him, and then we get this fucking tweet. Listen to the shit. I think Demon 1 is an insane player, but stuff like this makes me not want to support him. And E.G., I guess that's evil geniuses.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I know they don't care, but I'm curious to hear what you guys prefer. Humble players are trash talk and ego-type players. This is what I say. This is what myth said, right? You need villains to have heroes. Esports needs to embrace their villains more. We wonder why this shit is dying whenever there's zero narrative for people to care about. Now, here's really the truth.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Okay? I think that we should listen to people like Myth because Myth is a successful streamer. He knows what it takes to get an audience. He knows what it takes to be successful. He knows what it takes to get people to watch you. Like, do I really, and this is going to sound like maybe a dick thing to say, but do I really give a fuck about the opinion of somebody who's a commentator
Starting point is 00:10:10 in issues of like what is entertaining? no I really don't now in terms of commentating that's what I would care about but myth obviously is an expert in this and why the fuck would you go and watch the Rust server
Starting point is 00:10:28 if it wasn't for myth versus XQC yeah because it's exciting people like watching them so this is what I said I said this 100% true stuff like this is actually entertain me and call me toxic but every game ending with nice try Gigi is boring I still remember
Starting point is 00:10:44 Idra from Starcraft 2. Why? Because it was entertaining. Leagues run by pussies and paranoid sponsors are killing esports. True. Yes, I did just true myself because I was right. Absolutely. I don't know what these pussies think they're doing. Like, why are you trying to take yourself seriously? This is a fucking video game with light up blue guns that look like Nerf guns that 5 year olds use. Why are we pretending like this is some, like, fucking big deal?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Who gives a fuck? It doesn't matter. It's a video game. Try to have fun. It's entertaining. It's entertainment. Like, I just, it's so insane to me that people can't see this. It's a professional game. It's not a professional game. It's a game that people make money on. A professional. Gives a fuck about being professional. And also, uh, guess what? MMA is professional. They have more drama than anything. fucking WWE is professional. They have even more drama than MMA, even though it's scripted. Talk about it's being professional. Oh, okay. Well, then now we can't have any fun.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah, well, you know what? They can be professionals, and then sooner or later, they're not going to have a profession. That's what's going to happen. People take it very seriously when money is involved? No, they don't. Who gives a fuck what they think? People are always going to sponsor teams that are going to make money. Like, I'll tell you one thing.
Starting point is 00:12:11 if you had a tournament that's getting 100,000 concurrence, people are going to sponsor that fucking tournament. They will. Because it's going to get, now obviously, like, if there's people that show up and they're throwing gang signs and saying, like, racist stuff, there is a line. Of course there's a line.
Starting point is 00:12:29 But teabagging like this is not the fucking line. Okay. So, yeah. I don't want to see people that have no experience drawing an audience trying to tone police actual entertainment. That's what I fucking think. And if they want to have e-sports be interesting,
Starting point is 00:12:48 you need to let people be interesting. Not little robots that say nice try, G-G. So pathetic. I hate this shit. That's why I know, but like, why would I tune in to watch esports if it's just this shit? Oh, good game, chap. You click the button the right way.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Who cares? Personally, hate drama. trash talk because stupid people think it's the way you live life and you act that way irl but more or less it's whatever a bag is not toxic well it's not that like I mean stupid people think wrestling is real should they not do it like who cares what stupid people think you can't like what the fuck are you gonna do you're gonna base everything that you do off of somebody with a room temperature IQ if you do that you're never even gonna be able to tell a fucking joke there's also something about being supportive fuck
Starting point is 00:13:37 that fuck that let people do whatever they want guarantee you if you had a league with no rules people more people would watch it guarantee 100% without a question i just i had to talk about this because like i just uh this was uh it was getting my goat i was just not happy about it but uh yeah it's really sad to see this happen with sentinels and everything like that and uh you know i think that esports uh esports needs to have a renaissance and they need to have a come-to-jesus moment with like how they monitor themselves and how they how they profit
Starting point is 00:14:13 and like what's realistic, what's not? That's really where we're at. Would you debate someone for the subject? I mean, what is there to debate? I mean, effectively, like, this is an opinion, right? Like, they're going to, like, they're going to say
Starting point is 00:14:31 it's bad, why is it bad? Because sponsors will leave? Okay, well, sponsors are going to leave anyway because you're not getting any views. So that's not true. Like, what else is there to say? Yeah, there's nothing to debate. Now, there are people also, keep in mind, this is a matter of taste. So there are people out there, I think they're pussies, but they don't like this kind of stuff. And they're not wrong for not liking it.
Starting point is 00:14:57 This is their own opinion. They're entitled to their opinion, even, and I'm entitled to my opinion, they're pussies for having their opinion. But they're still entitled to their opinion. So, yeah, sure. I mean, I understand that not everybody agrees with me. Yeah, I just think this. would be better in the long run.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Games Nese where it's problematic because it's only bring people who knows what's going on in there. Well, that's why CS is so good. That's why Rocket League is so good. That's why Street Fighter 6 is so good. If I see somebody play
Starting point is 00:15:26 Street Fighter 6, I know who's winning, right? It's obvious. See, a point, it's not just about having viewers. For example, we have women's sports, not just for the views. I mean, women's sports is a whole different situation. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:15:41 like, it's not about, It is just about that. For me, in my opinion, I think if you're not getting the views, nothing else matters. If you're not bringing home the bacon, you're not getting people excited to watch your games. What the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:15:57 Throw it in the trash, start over, stop doing it. That's what I think. So if you've got people that aren't showing up, people that don't care, then why is it happening anyway? Ten salary is single-handly bankrupting Sentinels? I think that like a lot of the players, Especially, here's the thing, is that player salaries are not a problem if the person is a content creator.
Starting point is 00:16:21 The problem with player salaries is whenever the person doesn't create content and doesn't promote the brand. Like, for example, Terek, Tens, like a lot of these guys that are part of Sentinels, bro, Sentinels is getting, oh, they're getting everything out of them, right? Because, like, I think of them, I think of Sentinels. but you've got to get your people out there playing. You've got to get them making content. You can't just have them playing games by themselves doing scrims. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Oh, it makes you better. Yeah, it makes you better at the game, but how is that making any money? Which pro isn't a content creator these days? Exactly. You see more and more people doing that, and that's what it has to be. Is this a good or a bad thing for video games? I think that it's mainly agnostic. It doesn't really matter that much.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Terry gets more views on those watch parties than the official channels because people like hearing a, like that's exactly 39 death, bankrupting sentinels. I mean, again, they're always going to have, like, there's many different things like this. I mean, fuck. I'm just saying, like, paying content creators, you've got to find a way to get something out of them.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And if you can't monetize people correctly, then that's a problem. I know the solution. I'm going to draw you guys a graph of the solution, okay? And then we're going to finish this. Give me a minute, guys. This is how to save Esports right here. This is it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 This is what we have. This is why CSGO is doing well. This is what they need to do. Understand. And if they can't do this, I'm very concerned for the future of e-sports. That's where the money is. That's what real sports does.

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